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Lauren, it was a

1:57

bit of a well, it was a one-sided

1:59

victory. It was a one-sided game last night

2:02

between the Los Angeles

2:04

Rams and the San Francisco forty

2:06

niners. You feel like there's something

2:09

here around Jimmy Garopolo, but I think

2:11

there's another eligible bachelor that everybody's

2:13

talking about. defensive

2:15

coordinator, Demiko Ryan's I mean, he he's

2:17

doing such a great job this season and he has been

2:19

now for a couple of years. There's the number one defense

2:21

in the NFL through these first four games

2:24

and you felt like, you know, they pretty well

2:26

shut down Matthew Stafford in in a Ram's offense

2:28

that we've seen do some pretty great things. They've been

2:30

already successful throughout this season and they've

2:33

got a great cast wide receivers. No no

2:35

real scoring in the passing game there. Of course, they

2:37

shut down the running game completely and got a couple

2:39

of turnovers in there as well. It really felt

2:41

like a holistic defensive

2:43

performance on all three levels and

2:46

and so much more you can ask for from defensive

2:48

coordinates. Yeah. for sure. And especially, I mean, like,

2:50

you come into this game. If you're the Los Angeles

2:52

Rams, the game plan is simple. Right? You have

2:54

some injuries upfront, things like that that

2:56

you're concerned about. You have all of this sort

2:58

of changeover within the You're

3:00

still working on replacing your star,

3:02

left tackle, and retired over the off season.

3:04

You go to the quick game. You

3:06

go to Cooper Cup. I mean, how much

3:09

easier does that game plan get, but

3:11

the San Francisco forty nine is doing a phenomenal

3:13

job adjusting to it. I mean,

3:15

the the what

3:19

is the safety's name, Tala Noah Hufunga. I wanna

3:21

make sure I get his name right. The Tala Noah Hufunga

3:23

Interception, the pick six, Quick

3:25

read, you know they're going to Cooper Cup, you know what they've

3:27

been doing all game, like these types of adjustments

3:29

that you're making on the fly, not just what you're putting

3:31

together, on the first snap. But the way

3:33

that you're adjusting and re and reacting to

3:35

the way that the game goes, Tamika Orion has these guys

3:37

playing out of their minds right now. So

3:40

the question then becomes, does that

3:42

translate to a head coaching

3:44

job? You know, if other teams looking around

3:46

and saying, okay. Let's go get the guy who's operating at least

3:48

currently the number one defense. in the

3:50

NFL. Can they can he

3:52

do it on on my team if I'm

3:54

looking to hire him? It's because I look at the forty

3:56

nineer's defense and know, Danica

3:58

Ryan's he's only been a defense coordinator for a couple of

4:00

seasons now. You don't wanna hold that against him

4:02

purely, but a lot of this defense is

4:04

is really talented and it's players

4:07

he inherited or players that were already

4:09

really good. You know, if you've already got walked into

4:11

Nick Bosa and Fred Warner in a really strong

4:13

defensive line. Not a much situation. Yeah.

4:15

You mentioned Bufungo is a fifth round pick that

4:17

that he drafted, but -- Mhmm. -- really, I mean, he's he's

4:19

emerged at such a great level. Did did the coaching

4:22

staff automatically unlock this from him that

4:24

he wouldn't have done already? Or was he

4:26

just this good of a gem

4:28

kinda coming into this situation? So

4:30

you can sort of see, like, yeah, he's doing

4:32

a great job and you wanna keep that success going.

4:34

But how much is on the general

4:36

manager and the staff and the roster they

4:38

put together defensively, and how much is the

4:40

coordinator getting more out of

4:42

these players? Yeah. It's a tough

4:44

thing to kind of measure. Right? Because usually

4:46

what you're looking at in terms of development is

4:48

you're really looking at an entire staff

4:50

people, not just one individual. So how much of that

4:53

translates or walks with to Mark or Ryan's into

4:55

or, excuse me, to make a Ryan's into

4:57

a head coaching position. We see it all

4:59

around the NFL all the time. Some guys

5:01

just make really phenomenal coordinators

5:03

but don't necessarily make the best

5:05

head coaches that sometimes is simply

5:07

the case. And This isn't, you know,

5:09

a shana hand tree. This isn't a McVeyatory. We're

5:11

not talking about play writers here. We're talking about

5:13

a defensive guy who oftentimes

5:16

the defensive sort of minded head

5:18

coaches in the open head coaching

5:20

market tend to be the less desirable

5:22

ones and the guys that can dial up forty points

5:24

a game on the offensive side. and all that.

5:26

So there are a lot of things to consider here. But

5:29

if we're going to kind of go forward

5:31

with the hypothetical, let's go forward with the hypothetical.

5:33

If the Mika Ryan's is, a head

5:35

coach next year. Where do you feel like he

5:37

makes the most sense? Is there a place that he can go

5:39

where he inherits another talent

5:41

to defense and he gets to make the most out of them?

5:44

You know, it it seems like

5:46

if if he's gonna go to a team that has

5:48

a head coach opening, they're probably not gonna

5:50

have -- Right. -- a sup. Now with the Deepgram.

5:52

Right? Like, maybe the Carolina

5:54

Panthers if if they move on from from

5:56

that rule. It's not like -- There's pieces,

5:58

though. -- they have pieces, but it's not a

6:00

holistic defense. Maybe but I

6:02

mean, you get him in there and he's

6:05

able to put sort of his guys in a few

6:07

different extra spots. I mean, you can see something like that

6:09

with some of the young players they have there.

6:11

kind of, you know, taking a few steps

6:13

forward in in what they're looking to do -- Mhmm. --

6:15

around there. Otherwise, you know,

6:17

if Houston, you go from if they move on

6:19

from loving Smith after a year. No. They want Josh

6:21

Macoun, but you go from defensive head coach

6:23

to defensive head coach. Another place that

6:25

has some young pieces, but it's not like you

6:27

know, ready made for the riots to come

6:29

in and and really just install what he

6:31

wants to install. There's gonna be some work no matter

6:33

where he goes. I forgot well, not

6:35

forgot, but I I didn't consider in

6:37

this equation the Josh Macoun

6:40

factor, which is such a weird thing

6:42

to have to factor in to

6:44

next year's coaching cycle is gonna be so

6:46

strange. I think Carolina Panthers are probably

6:48

the best place for him. You've got Brian Burns.

6:50

You've got guys like Jack Thompson as well as, of

6:52

course, Jeremy Chin, who is an

6:54

absolute baller. You've got, you know,

6:56

JC Horn. You've got right

6:58

across with him Dante Jackson who has

7:00

some trouble staying healthy. But, you know, they

7:02

have good pieces there. CJ Henderson and so

7:04

forth. they have some really good pieces over on

7:06

the defensive side. You just need to kind of

7:08

see all of it come together. Of course, oh, and of

7:10

course, Derek Brown, like, right in the middle of all of

7:12

that as well. So they have a lot of good pieces over

7:14

there. So I feel like that may be as a place

7:16

where if he does get that opportunity next

7:18

year and the Carolina Panthers I think

7:20

need to go as far away from

7:22

Matt rule as possible if they

7:24

go away from Matt rule, which seems like

7:26

that's kind of the writings on the

7:28

walls, maybe they're already. then

7:31

you're able to do that. But, you know, do you

7:33

instead try to go with the

7:35

quarterback and quarterback whisperer

7:39

PAurig at head coach in quarterback because

7:41

I don't know if Baker Mayfield's gonna be the guy

7:43

for them next year based off of what they've seen

7:45

Julian Council for locked on Panthers. Excuse me,

7:47

locked on Panthers. already saying that

7:49

Carolina Panthers unequivocally have the worst quarterback

7:51

situation in the NFL through four games.

7:53

So or through four weeks. And so I don't

7:55

know. Does does Tamika Ryan's he do enough on

7:57

the defensive side to kind of overcome

7:59

what you're doing on the offensive side or overcome

8:02

your your shortcomings at the quarterback position?

8:04

And can you maybe find an offensive coordinator

8:06

that could be that QB whisperer. I think, you know,

8:08

you'd have to find the multiple pieces there to make it

8:10

all click. Yeah. Whoever they bring in

8:12

is good and inherit Matt Crell, not that they're gonna be

8:14

locked in at a good point. Yeah. He's

8:16

sitting there on injured reserve right now. We kind of

8:18

forget they do have that long term option

8:20

sort of sitting there somewhere, but you

8:22

know, it's be like you said, quarterback Whisper is gonna

8:24

be a big key there, or are they just gonna be bad enough

8:26

that they draft high enough that the next head

8:28

coach could get his own guy and say, sorry, Matt.

8:30

We just We we didn't we didn't in there at you. We

8:32

didn't want you to be there, and we'll we'll let you

8:34

kinda go. Yeah. We'll give you an opportunity

8:36

elsewhere kinda like what we saw with the Arizona

8:38

Cardinals. And we've seen all that all worked out.

8:40

So anyway, But so

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coming up next, we're gonna we're gonna discuss a little bit more

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about the San Francisco forty nine or Jimmy

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Giroppolo. Is he back or are the

8:51

is the situation around him just really

8:53

good? And what does that mean for San Francisco forty nine?

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Under usual circumstances, Lauren, we

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Florida's NFC West NFC. Those

12:05

are three things we wanna take a look at because

12:08

the NFC is basically just as

12:10

hectic as we expect, and last

12:12

night's game between the San Francisco forty

12:14

nineties and Los Angeles Rams might have been

12:16

just the perfect display of

12:18

exactly that. Yeah. The the fundamentals are

12:20

such a weird team that, like,

12:22

I I I'm I'm left tated

12:24

because, you know, I host lockdown bears and

12:26

I watched The Chicago

12:28

bears beat the forty niners in in week one.

12:30

Mhmm. It's not a great

12:32

Chicago bears team. Although that game

12:34

was in a downpour of what they call

12:36

a monsoon in Chicago. They have rain.

12:38

Incredible. The wind was all over the field. It was

12:40

kinda messy. It it was one of those

12:42

games that I don't think either team is necessarily saying this

12:44

is indicative of who we were. But at the

12:46

same time, they had some real flaws and

12:48

that was even a tray landscape. So you

12:50

think the whole point of going to freelance was

12:52

to open things up a little bit more in the offense

12:54

and be more dynamic and you go back to

12:56

Jimmy G and, you know, they lose a game to

12:58

the Bronco's that again, when we're not

13:00

super sure how great the bronchos are, they're kind

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of a flimsy a

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flimsy two and two right now, and they wear flimsy two

13:06

and one. And so but but, like,

13:08

there are two there are two wins of individual games

13:10

that gets to Seahawks and and the Rams. So

13:12

it's like, oh, well, like, they're they seem

13:14

to be in the driver's seat a bit in that

13:16

division because you know, the cardinals in

13:18

undercliff are having some issues there. We just saw them beat the

13:20

ranch. They beat the CLC ox. I mean, it's like,

13:22

I guess I guess it's sort of them,

13:24

but we don't fully believe in

13:26

Jimmy Garopolo is being the difference maker because that's why

13:28

they switched over to Trulance in the first place.

13:30

Right. Well, think about what Jimmy Garopolo has at his

13:32

disposal too. I mean, certainly that makes

13:34

a huge difference in terms of the team's ability to

13:36

be successful. I don't wanna say in spite

13:39

of the quarterback, but I think that there's a

13:41

reality in which you have quarterback that can win new

13:43

games. You have to back in lose you games, and

13:45

sometimes the deciding factor between those or

13:47

who we're throwing the ball to.

13:49

Yeah. And you think we

13:51

we've sort of seen this this process with with him

13:53

before, though. Right? Like, regular season.

13:55

When he when he's been healthy, and the four designers

13:57

says a team have been healthy. They yeah. They they've run

13:59

run away with the division at times and looked like kind

14:01

of the clear favorite there, but then they

14:03

get to the post season and

14:05

you need that quarterback step up

14:07

and make a big play in the fourth quarter

14:09

against another team that has a a nearly

14:11

equally good defense, a nearly equally good

14:13

weapons and is firing on all cylinders too. then

14:15

it that's when it comes down to that quarterback and

14:17

it feels like porting errors are are

14:19

stuck on that same path hoping for a different result

14:21

at the end. Yeah. Yeah. And now you

14:23

have the San Francisco for United areas, you

14:25

have the Los Angeles Rams,

14:27

Arizona Cardinal, Seattle Seahawks, all in that

14:29

NFC West division, all

14:31

that two and two. all knotted up from

14:33

top to bottom in that division. Which

14:36

of these teams Lauren do you

14:38

think has a realistic chance

14:40

of pulling away before

14:42

the season's over. It

14:44

it does feel to me, like, in the

14:46

regular season, it's the forty

14:48

niners that -- Mhmm. -- that all the way. Although, I will

14:50

say, like, I'm a big fan of Gino Smith, and I'm

14:52

a believer in what he's been doing there. And I think

14:54

he's he's playing really, really well, but they

14:56

just don't have a great set of pieces of

14:58

items. You're earlier point, like, the defense has really

15:00

been struggling, and he's got some good wide

15:02

receivers, but hasn't always all

15:04

clicked, you know, across the whole roster.

15:06

So it's, like, it's hard to have a

15:08

ton of faith in them. And otherwise, you might

15:10

think, I mean, the Rams because if we just saw

15:12

them in Super Bowl, we know, like, know how good

15:14

they can be, but they just launched the forty

15:16

niners and didn't look particularly good.

15:18

And you have the Matthew Stafford elbow

15:20

questions and whether or not his health is gonna

15:22

hold up. for the entire length of the season.

15:24

So it feels like forty niners by

15:26

default, but that's just kind of the thing we've seen

15:28

most recently and that every seems like

15:30

every week seen most recently and what we think about

15:32

the division is gonna change. Yeah. I think

15:34

that's exactly it. I think that this this

15:36

conversation reforms every

15:38

single week depending on, you know, which one or

15:40

two or three teams win or which one

15:42

team loses, whatever it might be, depending

15:44

upon how the schedule shakes out. It's so

15:46

interesting to me that we don't immediately

15:48

just say it's a Los Angeles Rams. Of course,

15:50

they're gonna be the team that's gonna end up

15:52

separating because as you mentioned, they were the ones, the

15:54

Super Bowl last year, that won the Super Bowl. They're the

15:56

world champions, blah blah. but it is

15:58

really hard after watching a performance like last

16:00

night, on Monday night football, seeing

16:02

them get within the twenty, get in their

16:04

red zone three different times. Walk away with three different

16:06

field goals and then not have a single

16:08

play go over twenty yards from

16:10

scrimmage. Matthew Stafford is not able to push

16:12

the ball down the field. The,

16:14

you know, your only real option

16:16

in terms of moving the ball has been

16:18

Cooper Cup. Cooper had fourteen

16:20

receptions last night, his career

16:22

high The guy is, you know,

16:24

really good, but he's not gonna be able to win new

16:26

games by yourself. Trust me. I watched them

16:28

try to do it in New Orleans with Michael Thomas when

16:30

he caught forty nine catches in a season and

16:32

broke Marvin Harrison's long standing

16:34

record. Now that team was one that still

16:36

made the playoffs, but they weren't able to

16:38

be carried by one receiver you have

16:40

to have multiple weapons. And

16:42

we thought Very much. Okay. It it's

16:44

weird because, like, this tough season, like, you

16:46

I think you're about to get it when you said you thought that, like,

16:48

thought there were gonna be a more loaded up team. You know,

16:51

when they go out and sign Allen Robinson and bring in

16:53

some different pieces there and they'll add to the back

16:55

field a little bit, like, this was supposed to be a

16:57

Ram's offense and a Ram's team that was like,

16:59

oh, they won the Super Bowl and

17:01

they reloaded. Right? Yeah. Yeah. There's always it'll

17:03

be some turnover there. But, like, they they were

17:05

able to add additional pieces and it was like,

17:07

oh, like, this team should be good to go and

17:09

yet, you know, nine points against the

17:11

San Francisco Hornetters. Like, you mentioned, like,

17:13

those trips to the red zone ending in three, like, that's what it seemed

17:15

like the Chicago bears offense does when they're not

17:17

when they can't even throw the ball consistently down

17:20

field, not not the Super Bowl

17:22

champion. Los Angeles Rams. And I don't think we

17:24

were expecting a Matthews' effort to touch down

17:26

the interception ratio of four to six at this point in

17:28

the scene. Ain't that the truth? And and to be in

17:30

a situation to where you have no fourth quarter

17:32

interceptions at all in the two thousand and twenty

17:34

one season where you lead this team to to,

17:37

you know, a a super old lead into a

17:39

promised land. And now he has several throughout the

17:41

first four games in the season already. I mean, it's

17:43

just it's not looking good right now in Los

17:45

Angeles, but maybe it all clicks in it all all comes

17:47

together. I don't think Alan Robinson is

17:49

in a situation yet to where he's missing

17:51

Mitch Trebriski at all. I think he's still in

17:53

the best quarterback situation that he's been in, and

17:55

I know that that means a lot to you,

17:58

Lauren. But it's Oh, I think we just need to see it

18:00

all click. Yeah. We have it. We and we

18:02

just have it yet. But given how how

18:04

well they've been coaching, how well they've come together

18:06

over over the years, like, we we have some

18:08

faith that Sean McVeigh led team. We'll start to

18:10

figure things out a little bit more than we saw on

18:12

Monday night football. Absolutely. The

18:14

division leaders right now when it comes across

18:16

the NFC are fill it

18:18

off. He eagles the only remaining

18:20

undefeated team in the

18:22

conference. The Cowboys not far behind.

18:24

Giants not far behind three in one, both of

18:26

those teams with the commander's one in three.

18:28

The NFC East is not at all. What we

18:30

thought it would be so far going into this year, we

18:32

talked about the NFC West, which is all knotted

18:34

up from top to bottom. Vikings and Packers tied

18:36

atop the NFC North, pretty much as we

18:38

expected, three in one for both of them.

18:40

Bares, though, two in two. Don't sleep on them just yet.

18:42

Right, Lauren? Add in the Yeah. But

18:45

sleep on that. You do. The lions

18:47

at one and three. They're number one is scoring

18:49

offense in the NFL. That's right.

18:51

Thirty second rate scoring defense in the NFL. They've I

18:53

I think they've scored, like, a record number of points and allowed

18:56

a record number of points. That's pretty incredible.

18:58

That's gonna be a fun season to continue to

19:00

follow the trade lines. And then in the

19:02

South, the bucks and Falcon sitting tied

19:04

at two and two with the saints

19:06

and panthers down there at one

19:08

and three. I guess the the last

19:10

question here in terms of the NFC as a whole. You

19:12

look at the NFC East. Philadelphia Eagles

19:14

four and o, Dallas Cowboys New

19:16

York Giants with three and one.

19:18

Who's the real deal out of this trio of teams? So

19:21

obviously, right now, I think the Philadelphia Eagles are

19:23

the real deal, but I just wonder if

19:26

when deck Prescott gets back for the

19:28

album. And and certainly, like,

19:30

Cooper Rush has played well, and I I

19:32

don't wanna take anything away from Cooper Rush, but I tend

19:34

to be a believer in that Prescott. I know

19:36

there's quite a wide gulf on

19:38

that, but I think he can be a difference maker for this

19:40

team and offer them a bit

19:42

more than what Koopa

19:44

Rush has just in terms of, like,

19:46

the physical talent that they

19:48

have at the quarterback position. I know, like, Cooper's been taking care

19:50

of the ball and and they get some nice throws down

19:52

the field, but I think, Jack, with with his legs

19:54

being able to open things up just a little bit

19:56

more. And we've seen them play football at at fairly

19:59

high levels. When when it's deck that's throwing

20:01

CD Lam and and and know about and

20:03

having the kind of offense success that

20:05

I think he he can once he sort of gets back to speed and gets

20:07

on the same page with these players, unless they've been

20:09

running the ball pretty well with Elliot and Polymer and

20:11

the defense. has been has been picking up

20:13

where it left off. Like -- Yeah. -- it feels like it's tailor

20:15

made for deck to come back and kind

20:17

of build up what Cooper Russia has done and and

20:19

take things forward. I mean, Cooper has

20:21

gotten some fairly more

20:23

favorable match ups and whatever deck comes back

20:25

with the next few games of Rams and Eagles.

20:27

So that's gonna be tough. But

20:29

then it'll maybe Lions bears packers bit by the NFC North four weeks

20:31

in their own Lions bears packers vikings.

20:33

That'll be a good test for them to against another

20:35

division that's still sort of feeling

20:37

itself out to see what they can do. But it's it's

20:39

not to take away from the Eagles that I think

20:41

are legitimately a very good football team and they're

20:43

definitely in the driver's seat, but I wanna

20:45

see what happens. when dad gets back. Yeah. For sure. For sure.

20:47

And especially, I mean, look, the Dallas Cowboys, if they

20:49

have a winning record, particularly if they're, you

20:52

know, winning if they're you

20:54

know, deficit is is greater than two. Right? If

20:56

they have a winning record when dachshund comes back,

20:58

it's a really, really nice setup for

21:01

them. Coming up next, Lauren and I are gonna wrap up the show with

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22:44

on a beautiful Tuesday, Lauren Cox, Ross

22:46

Jackson here with you today. We're

22:48

gonna wrap up quickly here today with our biggest

22:50

yike of the week. The thing that

22:52

just didn't go the way that we expected or that

22:54

we all knew wasn't gonna go well

22:56

that didn't. Lauren, your biggest yike

22:59

from week four? I hope to

23:00

not take it from you, but my my biggest yike

23:03

is what happened to Trevor Lawrence

23:05

in that game against the Philadelphia

23:07

Eagles. fumbles the ball four

23:09

times. Yeah. And from the inception

23:11

in there and first

23:13

three fumbles all lead to scores for Philadelphia.

23:15

The interception leads to score for Philadelphia.

23:17

and then the last fumble comes on the last

23:19

drive. When the Jaguars are trying to drive down field

23:21

and come back and retake the lead, you

23:23

know, late in this game with a chance to, I guess, it would

23:25

have been a tie because they were down eight, they would have to go for

23:27

two. But regardless, it was that clutch drive

23:30

moment and and another fumble

23:32

from Trevor Lawrence. And, you know, he had

23:34

been playing so well the Jaguars had been

23:36

one of the fun surprise teams of the league so far. And certainly,

23:39

this loss to the Eagles doesn't take that

23:41

away. Doesn't mean all of a sudden, all the jaguars are

23:43

bad now and weren't good. Just the

23:45

Eagles are kind of the bet the cream of the crap

23:47

right now. So, like, they lost to a good team

23:49

that might very well be a better

23:51

team, but the way in which they did it fourteen

23:53

nothing lead in the first quarter. They were in

23:55

cruise control. It was like, is Jaguar

23:57

seems gonna beat the only undefeated team left?

23:59

They're a really good team and it just one

24:01

after

24:01

another after another. You just, like, it can't

24:03

happen again. Right? Like, he's he's good. He's good.

24:06

He's good. He's good. He's good. He's good.

24:08

He's out of his system and it's, like, again. And then

24:10

the intercept It's just like, man.

24:12

I feel I feel more bad. It's more of a I feel

24:14

bad for Trevor Lawrence, but it's still big yikes.

24:16

Yeah. We're we're very much in in in

24:18

similar categories here because like you said, like,

24:20

not really something you look at Trevor Lawrence. You're like, oh,

24:22

Trevor Lawrence is the big yike. The yike is that

24:24

it happened to Trevor Lawrence who was like so

24:27

close to, you know, kinda taking that

24:29

next step And imagine, like, the way that we would be talking about Trevor

24:31

Lawrence right now, if that,

24:33

you know, if if we've that wasn't, you know,

24:35

that big you know, all those fun and

24:37

if it was it that way. And if he did, you know, lead the Jackson

24:39

with Jaguar to toppling the only remaining undefeated

24:41

team in the Philadelphia Eagles, all that. Like, we

24:43

would still be talking about here on here on

24:46

Tuesday. Well, I guess we we are, but certainly

24:48

in a a much more favorable way.

24:50

Certainly much more favorable circumstances.

24:53

Mine is is very very

24:55

similar. Lauren, mine is not the

24:58

the committing of the yike. It's the

25:00

fact that the yike happened to the player that it

25:02

happened to, and it is that fourth

25:04

in goal perception that Lamar Jackson

25:06

ends up throwing in the in zone

25:08

against the Buffalo Bills that allows

25:10

the Buffalo Bills to then get possession head

25:12

down the field and then kick a game winning field goal to walk away. I

25:14

believe it was twenty three yeah. Twenty three

25:16

twenty. And so for me,

25:19

I just wonder, like,

25:21

the Harbaugh decision to go forward on

25:23

fourth in goal as opposed to kick the field goal

25:25

and try to take the lead. Right? And then

25:28

sort of you know, I think I saw the win probability

25:30

being going for it and being successful

25:32

was seventy one percent

25:35

win percentage the field goal was like

25:37

sixty seven percent win

25:39

percentage at that point. So the

25:41

the, I guess, you know, four percent.

25:43

Maybe, I guess, you might wanna take that, but

25:45

it doesn't feel like it was that

25:47

drastic a thing that you, you

25:49

know, needed to go out there and do that and

25:51

needed to go for it, then you could have taken the

25:53

goal that you could have rested your laurels on your defense,

25:55

at least force a field goal attempt

25:57

to send it in overtime as opposed to give

25:59

up a touchdown. The Buffalo Bills have

26:02

been maybe up until this week,

26:04

the the best team in the NFL. And

26:06

I would say even still, like, we'll still be

26:08

calling them the best team in the NFL.

26:11

in a couple of weeks or so they get healthier. But,

26:14

you know, the even

26:16

despite

26:16

that, like, this was the game where all of

26:18

a sudden they didn't look like the Buffalo Bills

26:20

they look like early on, didn't trust that, you tried to go

26:22

for it, and then the Interception

26:24

inside the five. Rough.

26:27

will say this when when it comes to John Harbaugh, I

26:29

can understand how it might be hard to take the ball

26:31

out of the Marjax's hand. You know what I mean? That is

26:33

true. That is true. Yeah. I bet this

26:36

MVP caliber quarterback.

26:38

I'll kick the field goal. Like, you know, I Yeah.

26:40

I'm more often though I'm gonna say, I'm gonna trust

26:42

my playmaker to make a big play. And sometimes

26:45

it doesn't go your way, but I think it's

26:47

good

26:47

it can be good processed as

26:50

opposed to bad results

26:51

to to let Lamar cook. Yeah.

26:53

Absolutely. No. That's absolutely right. And for me, like, that's exactly

26:55

where it is, where the yike is that it happened to

26:57

Lamar Jackson. Who is my MVP favorite

27:00

this year? Who I've been saying, this is the guy that's gonna

27:03

win pee all year. And so far, he's still looking like it.

27:05

Like, despite that perception, despite all that, but, you

27:07

know, the narratives now get impacted and

27:09

blah blah blah blah. And so it's just gonna be

27:11

a noisy Lead up to week five for

27:13

Lamar Jackson, and that's very unfortunate.

27:15

And to me, that is a

27:17

yikes. We appreciate you everybody for

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