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2:48

because this is. A

2:51

position on class for the twenty twenty

2:53

four draught that I think our opinions

2:55

have really started to evolve on. Over.

2:58

The course of the past. Two

3:00

months or so vs. like. December.

3:03

Or early January start of the pre draft

3:06

process. And will die you.

3:08

I had one impression this defensive tackle class

3:10

and it. Feels. Very different.

3:12

Now. That we've kind of gotten into the weeds on

3:14

some of these guys. Yeah, like

3:17

what it has to offer. I don't know

3:19

that it's loaded, but I think that there

3:21

are answers in round one. I think those

3:23

answers. In. The second round even some

3:25

third rounders that I'd like. And I think when you

3:27

have. Options. In every round that makes

3:29

sense that you feel like. Can. Have a

3:31

role, some of them being impact guy, some

3:34

of them being nice pieces of rotation, I

3:36

think you could find some help and that's a good place

3:38

to be because. Ah, This interior.

3:41

Defensive line stuff is really important in the

3:43

Nfl. You want that quick pressure in the

3:45

face of the quarterback. You. Guys, I

3:48

can get in the backfield and make plays. And.

3:50

This draft as guys I can do that. Yeah.

3:52

And I'm. It.

3:55

Did in here. Defensive line is one of those.

3:57

Curses. Healthy. The. Why

4:00

the receiver on. Offense. For.

4:02

You have all these different body types the play

4:04

the same position. that's really find that there's like

4:06

some positions but just like there's. Perimeter.

4:09

Wide Receivers Her slot wide receivers. and

4:11

and that the variance in stature is

4:13

that you get. You. Get

4:15

that no greater contrast then. Oh

4:18

what's you had? Just a Texas right?

4:20

when you consider Byron Murphy at three

4:22

hundred pounds, six feet and to laundry

4:25

sweated, six four, three sixty six. Ah,

4:27

I'm. So. I think.

4:30

We. Should probably acknowledged the.

4:33

Top two players in the class or spotlighted in

4:35

the. The. Right hand third here. if you're watching

4:38

on you tube it's. A consensus is

4:40

Johnny Newton and Byron Murphy and

4:42

one order another. I. Don't know

4:44

what word I think into our apartment. I don't

4:46

think I've told you what order I had that

4:48

in, but I did both of their deep dives

4:50

earlier this week. Ah man ah

4:53

I'm I have them very closely

4:55

rated. Let's just put Alaska why

4:57

he either cause they're close arm.

5:00

Real. Quick Before we get into, we're going to lead

5:02

off with Johnny. dude from Gam Illinois. One.

5:04

Of the fascinating components of this entire

5:06

defensive tackle ensued, events of my conversation

5:09

is like. How many market

5:11

resetting contracts by have went down

5:13

at this position? I'm.

5:16

We've. We've been talking about like these

5:18

top of the market thresholds. The.

5:20

Twenty million dollar defensive tackle is is

5:22

alive and well with not only what

5:25

Chris Jones of course Gop Crucible can

5:27

just a matter of weeks. Queen of

5:29

William, some recipients the Ron Pain, Dexter

5:32

Lawrence Divine Hargrave. Those are all like

5:34

in the last calendar year. Guys, I

5:36

get over twenty million dollars a T

5:39

y a defensive tackle self. Ah,

5:41

there's a need to find some value

5:43

out there across the Nfl. Yes, are

5:45

getting rookie contracts is an alley Valuable

5:47

proposition, especially when you consider. Neither.

5:51

Johnny Newton or By or Murphy. Seems like there

5:53

could be a top ten overall selection. So now

5:55

you're going out the top ten picks with a

5:58

rookie wage scale and you really friendly that. for

6:00

the next four years. So let's let's start rezoning.

6:02

You can. Ah from Illinois

6:04

A who. Probably. Has

6:07

the most overall would it? Would you

6:09

agree? He. Has the most

6:11

impressive pass rush palette and

6:13

resume. Have any Interior Defense is why

6:16

I'm in his class. Oh. Yeah. Oh

6:18

yeah, I. Firmly

6:21

believe that I'm. An.

6:25

Effect. Essentially the boxes we don't have the athleticism.

6:27

yeah I think he's would have a foot injury or something

6:29

making babies gonna work out and I'm going to the. Test.

6:32

Though in the next two weeks, I'm. Pretty. I'm concerned

6:34

with that because I watched him play at Illinois and

6:36

I know he's a dynamic athletes, but I think coming

6:39

in at six to three or four. Ah,

6:41

maybe the recent? He was an undersized guy. But six

6:43

to three or four, thirty two and three eights on

6:45

our my. Nine. And a half. On.

6:47

The hand size and then production over the last

6:49

two seasons. Twenty two and a half tackles for

6:52

loss. Thirteen sachs. Three year starter The Twenty

6:54

Twenty Three Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.

6:56

This guy's been making a lot of plays and sell

6:58

over a hundred pressures the last two seasons combined as

7:00

well. Yeah man. On.

7:04

And the context of the Illinois defense To write

7:06

with, it's. Nike. Surrounded with dude.

7:09

That of the he's russian with it's not like. There.

7:11

Are as an amazing unit. That's that's.

7:14

Always a heading Games may get the tee

7:17

off and just you know, rush the passer

7:19

disguise right? Yeah, Yeah

7:21

and. I think the

7:24

other thing at a Press Me with with Johnny

7:26

was when you delve into his profile the plane

7:28

Twenty five games last two seasons. He's.

7:30

Played seven hundred, twenty three, and seven or

7:33

forty nine snaps. A lot like this.

7:35

Do that dudley the feel. Noom. And

7:37

you contrast that with Byron Murphy. Oh,

7:39

Texas rotated as a time. Or

7:41

they had some more depth. they felt little bit more

7:43

comfortable with. Going a full possession

7:45

were Byron Murphy's not on the field but

7:48

ah did said to know the to have

7:50

a player. Who's.

7:53

Acclimated to playing in thirteen

7:55

and twelve games season's over

7:57

seven hundred snaps. Oh.

8:00

That in itself has the potential to

8:02

be a really nice additional feather. In

8:05

Johnny Newton's Cat. And oh, by the

8:07

way, Ah, He will

8:09

turn twenty two. right?

8:11

In time for roster cut downs. In.

8:15

August Thirty first He turns twenty

8:17

two. So. He this is

8:19

not an older rookie night in

8:21

this the scale of as well,

8:23

so there's a couple like ancillary

8:25

parts of his game in addition

8:27

to this really robust. A

8:30

pass rush palette with how he wins with his

8:32

hands. I. Think is is he encounters

8:34

initial he encounters. ah he can win over

8:36

the tackle. He can win in the began

8:38

he can. He really forces you to take

8:40

half a man when you you attack him

8:42

from a pass rush prospectus. So. Like

8:45

that hq of setting up his pass rush

8:47

wins is there as well. And

8:49

that all paints together this really, really nice

8:51

picture for Johnny. You. Hop

8:54

motor that's cranked up loose and flexible. When

8:56

he can he has a chance, the corner

8:58

and get around or greece rush angle. he's

9:00

got it man. he's got the goods. And

9:02

like you mentioned, Lot of different ways

9:04

he can be box that. The pass rush repertoire

9:06

I think is is unmatched in this class in.

9:09

Your. He's got a lot of course ranked about him

9:11

to like. I think he a farm player that

9:13

some. Hill. Did not easy to

9:16

move with single box and he can

9:18

win with quickness and athleticism. but don't.

9:20

Get. It twisted you've got plenty of powers. Well,

9:23

Yeah. I think that and I'm glad you mentioned the

9:25

cornering that was. The other thing that stood out to me

9:27

about Johnny was I saw the all the guys that have

9:29

had a chance to watch. His. Abilities

9:32

turn tight corners. Really?

9:34

Stands out as well and that's what kind of

9:36

helps him. Take. These penetration opportunities

9:38

and turn them into actual pressures

9:40

and getting home on quarterback. He.

9:43

Really got a good news for the fault. Who

9:45

likes it? So like is Tackles. He's.

9:47

Out a couple of instances where he's knocked the

9:49

ball loose. At the point of

9:51

contact us at tackler as well. So just like

9:53

little little football, I q elements of his game

9:55

to that really part to me when I watched

9:57

him. about it there's a growth area

10:00

Johnny Newton, it's like I have

10:02

no questions about his athleticism. He's

10:04

extremely explosive. I thought maybe Some

10:07

of the snap anticipation to get off the ball

10:09

quicker cuz like when he goes he goes But

10:11

like we start anticipating a snap a little bit

10:13

more boy He can be

10:15

really really disruptive or even more disruptive than he

10:18

already is So

10:20

Johnny Newton Kyle and I are in we are

10:22

fans. I have a first-round grade on Johnny Newton

10:24

I would guessing you yes

10:26

do okay. Yes. No easy. Yes

10:30

Outside of about what the first 10 takes you

10:32

feel like you're probably getting really good value. Yeah,

10:36

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10:38

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12:18

Byron. Murphy the second, From.

12:20

The oversee Texas. And.

12:23

He checked in at just over six feet.

12:26

He. Checked in at the Combine ads

12:28

two hundred ninety seven pounds. And

12:31

boil Boy. Is.

12:34

He showcase i'm height, your athleticism if you're

12:36

worried about the size and stature I think

12:38

is weights like twenty fourth percentile. And

12:40

as heights lower than that. Ah,

12:42

he has. Thirty. Two

12:45

and a half. Thirty two and three eights on

12:47

the arm length. Yep. And. Then

12:49

I'm like all of his explosive testing

12:51

be at the jobs. The short. The.

12:53

tenured split. The. Forty Yard-

12:57

So. Like eighty fifth percentile are better. Widens.

13:00

Very highly dynamic player.

13:03

To. Compliment Being an undersized

13:05

talent. On. The inside.

13:08

Cow. Crabs are he was. Eighteenth.

13:10

On Bruce Feldman freaks list. Some.

13:13

Met metrics that blow my mind in one that's gonna

13:15

be very very near and dear to your heart. Eighty.

13:18

Miles an hour on the gun for the

13:20

radar guided so. That's. Amazing right? Three

13:22

hundred seventy five pound power Sleep Power Clean.

13:24

That's amazing. Yeah. His. Front

13:26

squat is four hundred pounds. Four.

13:31

Hundred pound or five squat.

13:34

So. Let's apply lowly. Will apply

13:36

my college degree in Kinesiology hundred year

13:38

ago. You think about. Francois.

13:40

Quiet. And. Core

13:42

strength. And balance. And

13:45

you contrast that. To. You watch

13:47

this two hundred ninety seven pound do take

13:49

on double teams. And

13:52

he eggers like. You would

13:55

never believe. That. Somebody

13:57

who's to ninety seven play an inside.

14:00

Can anchor against the run drop

14:02

the knee and split a double team and

14:05

it makes a lot of sense to know that there

14:07

is that much core strength and

14:09

power in his frame and

14:11

then you think about the fact that he is six

14:13

feet tall and He

14:16

leverages it who's playing under

14:18

his pads nobody who's ever

14:20

playing never. Yeah, it's unbelievable

14:24

You are out to me in a big way Pound

14:30

that's not a back squat folks. It's

14:32

a front squat your core is And

14:36

it's full depth. I saw the video your

14:38

elbow's nice hip crease goes below the knees

14:40

my guy. He's an absolute monster Love

14:43

I really I like

14:45

Byron Murphy. He's my number one defensive tackle dense

14:49

Squatty thick build which we talked about and

14:52

it's the leverage like he maximizes his power

14:54

at the point of attack Because

14:56

nobody's under his pads like we can

14:58

talk all this nuanced football stuff all

15:01

day long Trench battles in the NFL

15:03

is still about leverage and nobody out

15:05

leverages Byron Murphy. Oh, by

15:07

the way, he's an explosive athlete That's

15:10

twitchy sudden flexible I think

15:12

I like to me everything's built off of that

15:14

like his ability to defend the run Nobody's moving

15:17

him his ability to rush. It's all of those

15:19

traits. They work together and I'm

15:22

just a really big fan of what he offers and I think

15:24

there's versatility as well to play the one and the three Yeah

15:29

So The last three

15:31

seasons he's played worn. He's played 120 snaps in

15:33

the a gap. Yeah In

15:36

three seconds I get seasons right like it

15:38

so that that versatility exists in his game

15:41

So much so that like I think he played in the

15:43

a gap more often than Tavon Dre sweat bit I

15:48

Right, that doesn't make sense on paper, right? Yeah but

15:52

I think I don't I

15:55

don't think Byron Murphy has the hand

15:59

utilization in the Pass rush that Johnny

16:01

Newton does but I think he's

16:03

a better run defender. I think

16:05

he's more consistent penetrating gaps

16:08

I do think he's more explosive and I

16:11

think the ceiling is there for him to develop

16:13

into every bit of a pass rudder He has

16:15

a better pass rush win rate, but then Johnny

16:17

Newton by about four and a half percent this

16:19

year Wow now I think that

16:21

might the structure of those defenses could play

16:23

a lot of those defenses and playing in

16:26

the big ten versus playing In

16:28

the big twelve certainly has something to do

16:30

with that as

16:32

well, I also am I mistaken, but

16:34

I feel like I Feel

16:37

like Johnny played a fair amount of like

16:39

nose tackle Like I felt like that Illinois

16:41

defense was like a lot of odd fronts,

16:44

which is really tough the Rush,

16:48

I think as a down lineman for what

16:50

it's worth the resource that I have has

16:52

Johnny Newton playing 70 snaps in the a

16:54

gap But only five snaps

16:56

in the a gap in 2023. Oh, okay. All right.

16:58

All right So

17:01

Byron Murphy, I think we the

17:04

motor also pops there He's

17:07

these nobody's gonna outwork him. Nobody's

17:09

gonna out leverage him on any given snap when

17:12

you think about growth areas for him One-year

17:18

starter that's kind of strange to me you maybe wish

17:20

that there was a little bit more robust of a

17:24

resume of playing time and

17:26

then I thought there were so a lot of instances where maybe

17:28

he got a little bit out of control when penetrating

17:31

and like come to balance a little bit and

17:33

finish more because I think he would make like

17:35

the Box score would be a little more kind

17:37

to him if he was a little bit more

17:40

under control when when resetting the last scrimmage Yeah,

17:42

I think that's fair where One

17:46

of the traits that I really liked about his game

17:48

it kind of worked against him at times But like

17:50

when he uncovers off of Like

17:53

a blocker and accelerates to the quarterback

17:57

it's like eye-opening

18:00

the amount of Accelerate like

18:02

that that one six ten yard split shows up

18:05

when he is Uncovering off of

18:07

a blocker because the quarterback has moved

18:10

off his spot or is flush from the pocket And

18:12

he's got to like flip the switch and go into pursuit But

18:16

that level of explosiveness even as a

18:18

shorter player with a lower center of

18:20

gravity Coming to balance

18:22

in those instances I

18:25

would totally agree is an area of

18:27

his game where like just a little bit of meat on the

18:29

bone That you could

18:31

have just that much more

18:33

consistent impact with I agree

18:35

with you 100% and then the other thing is I

18:40

think he does a really nice job of Persisting

18:45

with his feet through contact

18:48

To be able to sustain like his forward momentum

18:50

and he converts the power very very well, right?

18:53

So like he plays with his power and he plays

18:57

through contact fairly well But

19:00

he could get off of it Faster

19:03

if he had more clubs

19:05

in the bag for getting hands

19:07

off of his frame so like it's really impressive

19:09

that you're able to run your feet and push

19:12

through momentum and like Kind of

19:14

continue to work across phase or walk somebody

19:16

back But like get rid

19:18

of them and go and

19:21

that will give you more opportunities to finish plays

19:23

as well Did he remind you

19:25

of anybody when you watched him? I

19:28

Know that's a heck of a thing to put you on

19:30

the spot to ask. Yeah, you sure did It

19:34

look great. He Jared Yeah,

19:37

I think that's the appropriate stratosphere

19:39

of players to invoke here

19:44

Just the the the quickness and

19:46

low pads He's

19:51

been he's probably better run defender than

19:53

Grady Derek was coming out of college

19:56

I'd agree. So it's like okay

19:58

like if he goes to a that has

20:00

like some edge rushers. They

20:03

can that there will really put guards on an

20:05

island with him. He's can be a monster. And.

20:08

Like his sack production will be far beyond what it.

20:10

Was. A Texas. And

20:12

fingers crossed, he's not the Christian Wilkins

20:14

replacement for the Miami Dolphins in I.

20:17

Would. Hate to see the. Would. Hate to see

20:19

that for sure. But. Job would act

20:21

honestly be a great great choice. I think

20:23

about laughable when I mocked him. I think

20:25

I'd take them for the dolphins whenever I

20:27

was the idol. Easy to say. well couple

20:29

mock drafts ago. All right.

20:31

so we I think these are the top two I

20:33

don't I like I'd like to the other guys I think

20:35

these are pretty clear to the top two, both carrying

20:37

first run grades for me. Ah, but

20:40

there's some other talent available this

20:42

year. And we want to talk about that

20:44

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I think this is where this you

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know that I crowdsourced inadvertently. About

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who was idea one. I heard from a lot

21:55

of people. Are you and

21:57

I both fields Bar Murphy? I also by Murphy's I.

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Okay to no I didn't know that

22:02

of Gaga. I. Just they did

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the the floor with the run the sending

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being so much higher. And then

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and athletic skills said that. I think and give

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you every bit of what Johnny Newton has as

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a pass rusher. Is

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is what it is for me. I'm a

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his crowdsource the lethal suppose people in a now.

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They did not agree with us so at the

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rate they'd be like the password profile johnny which

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I totally get and. I

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preference between those two. Yeah.

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Company. Ah. Heck

22:35

of a pair. Of I'm. By.

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Audio Threes where this class really opens up.

22:41

And I figured we we cannot leave

22:43

it open. Man. Let

22:45

you share your thoughts on idea Three and I could share

22:47

my thoughts on on the a three. We can go from

22:49

there. I. Think

22:52

it's proceedings of Michigan. Ah six three

22:54

to ninety nine thirty four inch arm

22:56

so like you've got these are more

22:58

links and any the players who discussed

23:00

do this point. Of son

23:02

of Christians to time Nfl all

23:04

pro for time pro bowler big

23:06

time leader ah for the. Undefeated

23:09

National champion Michigan Wolverines.

23:12

I. Think there's. There's

23:14

so much to like here. I mean, Physically.

23:16

Odd has the goods terms of

23:18

length, quickness, flexibility, I think

23:20

he can penetrate get up the feel very

23:23

disruptive. Or farm anchor against single

23:25

box A Love the motor. I

23:27

love the lateral movement skills. He's a

23:29

guy that some. I. Thought

23:31

got better and better throughout his career at Michigan

23:34

and and played his best football in some the

23:36

biggest moments for that seen. On.

23:38

As the I think my big things with him for growth

23:40

areas are just like. We. See a

23:42

little bit more knock back power with the sands. The.

23:45

Still developing his pass rush repertoire little

23:47

bit. Video to them or

23:49

contact balance but. The. Link here.

23:52

With. The athleticism. With the

23:54

trajectory with the pedigree, That.

23:56

Has me pretty excited by him as ideal.

23:58

Three. I felt. So bad

24:00

for got like every game I watched he

24:02

was getting double team that a disproportionate rate.

24:05

like a lot of attention given to him

24:07

yeah which I think really rods him. He

24:09

talked about. Ah how he

24:11

handles single blocks and and what is length

24:13

allows him to do. And. I

24:15

thought he had really nice lateral acceleration out of

24:18

kind of that lock. Lock. Peak

24:20

find the football on the medals to

24:22

be able to. Process.

24:24

Where the play has developed and and in instances

24:26

in which there were runs. Are

24:28

in between the tackles where he could really

24:30

disengage and flow to the ball. I

24:33

thought that's where his best work showed. I.

24:35

Use my my concerned they're here with

24:37

with Christian Kings is just the. Pass.

24:40

Rush profile as a whole, Ah,

24:42

I'm. Kelly. He only really

24:44

broke out some some of the more

24:47

exotic counters. Later. And games when

24:49

they rub big. Ah, As

24:52

a is twenty pressures and each last two seasons

24:54

so it's not did they. There's not a lot

24:56

of volume getting to the quarterback here. Are

24:58

pass rusher. In winter, a pro football focus

25:01

had him and eleven percent. versus.

25:03

Johnny Newton was fifteen and. Murphy

25:06

was nineteen. So. Like it is

25:08

a lower profile in that regard but

25:10

I think is a high floor player.

25:13

So. If you're looking for. Somebody.

25:15

Who can at the very least play the

25:17

early downs for you and be really good

25:19

at controlling a line of scrimmage as long

25:21

as you're not going to play him. In.

25:24

Positions where he's are structurally where he's going

25:26

to face a lot of double teams. I

25:28

think that does. Our put him

25:30

in obsessive be the best version himself. A played

25:32

over the attack with time. I. Got

25:35

it and not nicely out the seek out but like

25:37

head up on authors of tackles at whether you like

25:39

a base and he did that quite a bit for

25:41

Michigan as well so I like that. Added for still

25:43

a to he breaks. My.

25:46

Ideal for east of under a sweater. Very.

25:51

Different kind of player. ah

25:53

i'm would love to hear your thoughts in concerns

25:55

and than i can go into why i do

25:57

have him as idea i have not completed my

26:00

I'm mr. Tavon. Oh you you

26:02

say things and educate

26:04

me and the listeners so

26:06

Tavon Dre at 366

26:11

is a big old fella who

26:13

plays Surprisingly high amount

26:15

of snaps. He's played more snaps in each of

26:17

the last two seasons than Byron Murphy has I

26:21

Played 503 snaps this season for Texas In

26:27

short-yarded situations It's

26:29

not just I'm gonna be unmovable and

26:32

just occupy There

26:34

is a penetration ability

26:36

here at 6 4 366

26:40

that you don't necessarily expect

26:44

For the quickness in short yarders. I think Kansas

26:46

Kansas State trying like three times inside and

26:48

he just Got into gas. It

26:50

wasn't just I'm gonna walk my guy backwards He

26:56

Does have the ability to if

26:58

you get one-on-one rushes for him

27:01

He plays with pretty good pad level. He's

27:03

not gonna be like Byron Murphy. I think

27:05

that was the hardest thing to reconcile Was

27:08

right the pad level of Byron

27:10

versus his pad level at six foot four.

27:12

It's just a different ballgame But

27:16

he also has a Lot

27:19

of power and he didn't test particularly well from like

27:21

I think you had like a 118 10 yard split

27:23

and His

27:25

vertical jump was in the 20th percentile

27:27

or so so it's

27:29

not a case like Jordan Davis where he cut a

27:32

bunch of weight and he came into the combine and

27:34

he blew the roof off Lucas oil and That's

27:37

now your expectation for what that player is

27:39

gonna be athletically He is what

27:41

he is And I think that surprised us a little bit

27:43

when he didn't weigh in at first in the

27:45

free draft process And then he comes to the combine in his

27:47

pro day and he's 366 and 367. It's like, okay Like

27:51

that's what you're on the roster at so that that's like

27:53

that's where you were But

27:56

he has I think

27:58

his wingspans like 88th percentile

28:01

wingspan just this massive radius in

28:03

addition to the amount

28:05

of strain That offensive linemen

28:07

have to play with to have net neutral at

28:10

the point of attack Just because of his stature

28:12

and he is 6-4 like he's not like one

28:14

of those six six six seven big guys You

28:17

think about who was it like Daniel McCullers,

28:19

right? All

28:22

six foot eight of them inside at Tennessee

28:24

and then going to the pros It's

28:27

not that kind of frame. It's

28:29

more bowling ball

28:33

so you have all of this

28:35

strain to have a neutral stalemate

28:37

and then what he does

28:39

really really well is he'll

28:41

utilize his hands and Displace

28:44

you using your strain

28:46

just as he's absorbing

28:48

it to discarding and

28:50

uncovering gaps and because

28:53

of his wingspan He's

28:55

got a large ability to separate himself

28:57

and then when he uncovers What

29:00

he doesn't have in lateral range and explosiveness

29:02

of some of these other guys. He

29:04

has the ability to just Influence

29:06

because of how big he is and what his reach is

29:10

Shouldn't own Kyle was gonna fall for the big old nose

29:12

tackle. So you

29:14

know, there's there's a special brand of news nose

29:16

tackle like if you're in the Hargrave

29:20

reader Bay Vexter

29:23

Lawrence like the Ron Payne bucket

29:25

like her special player and you

29:28

think is this is that aggressive

29:30

first sweat or I mean He's

29:33

huge He's bigger though.

29:36

So I I think the the

29:38

mock draftable page for Tavandre sweat

29:40

has some really good comparables Just

29:42

from an athletic profile

29:44

standpoint that I would shout out

29:47

Grover Stewart's the third highest comparable

29:51

and Grover Stewart Getting

29:53

what 13 per he came through the combine at 6 4

29:57

3. 47 Wish I just wish sweat was that I don't want him.

30:00

The Three Sixty Six. While. The

30:02

you know the other guys on this list that

30:04

that I think are applicable. Our.

30:06

Poll solely I remember Big Paul solely

30:08

I other Utah. We.

30:10

Like ten years and leave the he finished

30:12

in Carolina. Is. It my any for

30:14

like seventy years. Six.

30:17

Foot Four Three Three Forty Five.

30:21

Ah, still Taylor is on

30:23

this list. John.

30:26

Jenkins out a Georgia is on this

30:28

list. Six four, three, Forty six. Or

30:32

Etti Goldman's on this list. I don't think that's

30:34

necessarily is from a size perspective that he was

30:36

lighter than that by. Adding.

30:39

Valve whole solely I Grover Stewart,

30:41

John Jenkins. Those. Kinds of

30:43

players had meaningful long term Nfl prison seasons

30:45

in which they were playing five hundred plus

30:48

snaps. And I think the boundary so I can

30:50

be that yes, You. I think he can

30:52

be Dj reader. I think that's probably a

30:54

little pieces of a forecast. But

30:57

I think Kiki he will mean handle just

30:59

about every one on one situation. He gets

31:01

it the next level. Shutout.

31:03

Eddie Goldman signed with the Falcons to

31:05

that coming out of retirement. We

31:08

both liked him coming out of afford a state

31:10

so. See. The Get A Gun. Kendrick.

31:14

Alice. On. That list as

31:16

well. Why the names?

31:19

Are. You high you pick into Andras when. I.

31:23

Don't think he's a Kennedy for the first round

31:25

says because the pass rush profiles not there and

31:27

even though he plays a reasonable than the snaps

31:29

and night there is some nice pass rush. Ah,

31:34

And collapse the pocket power elements to his

31:36

game. And

31:38

lucky he saw a sellout he would your neighbors

31:40

and your neighbors had the as high profile is

31:42

oh my god easy to get be old play.

31:45

All. These playing time and escape yielded to win

31:47

his pass rusher is how athletic he is. Out

31:51

there. How's our house? A It's

31:53

just not. From a volume

31:55

perspective to justify first round pick. On.

31:59

i think middle of the second round is

32:01

about where it would start to become appropriate

32:03

to have the conversation of the role,

32:05

the snaps, the third down role

32:07

versus the early down role. What

32:10

it allows you to do, I do think he's

32:13

athletic enough that he doesn't

32:15

just have to be a base. Like

32:17

if you're a base nickel team, I think you can

32:19

put him in the A gap in nickel defenses too.

32:24

But when you get to third and are

32:26

long, long and late down

32:28

and distant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank

32:30

you for that. I stole that from

32:32

Joe last week. Long and late,

32:34

long and late downs. You're

32:37

not going to have them on the field just because you are going to

32:39

want somebody with some more juice. So I'd say

32:41

middle of the second round is I think where it starts

32:43

to become appropriate to have the conversation for sweat. If

32:47

you're joining us on YouTube, let us know

32:49

who your third defensive tackle is.

32:51

I'd be surprised if anybody didn't have

32:53

some order of Newton and Murphy one

32:56

and two, but I think that's a bigger conversation

32:58

for number three. Give us your feedback. Let

33:00

us know who you think it is. And that is going to do it

33:03

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