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1:33

First, Aaron Rodgers,

1:36

Pat McAfee, scans come back

1:38

clean,

1:39

he expects to play on

1:41

Sunday. I mentioned on the show yesterday

1:43

at the end that

1:45

Malo Flor not

1:48

saying this, not coming out and

1:50

saying he's gonna be good Monday

1:53

could point to some disagreement over the

1:55

plan. That

1:56

could have been the case on Monday, by the

1:58

way.

1:59

But he said

1:59

there was more things to work through. Now

2:02

Tuesday is the next day,

2:04

so there could have been things that were worked through

2:06

things in the morning that were discussed,

2:09

plans, put in motion, all that stuff.

2:12

It also could have been as simple as Aaron

2:14

wanted to be the one to say I planned to play.

2:16

And

2:16

that's I'm fine with that.

2:21

here is I I think the

2:23

important part of all

2:25

this. You know, I I

2:27

made the case yesterday that Jordan Love

2:30

saying out of the buy, it makes sense

2:32

for him to be the quarterback. But I

2:34

saw the value in Aaron Rogers

2:37

playing this week.

2:38

if he wants to play.

2:41

And then said, okay. Well, by by the Rams

2:44

game,

2:46

they

2:46

might be out of it anyway.

2:47

And there's plenty of, you know, quick

2:50

math we can go through in numbers and, you

2:52

know, the the games back they are of the teams ahead

2:54

of them. Like, they're not gonna catch the cowboys

2:56

and they're almost certainly not gonna catch the

2:58

giants or the commanders.

3:01

Two of whom

3:02

have the tie breaker against

3:04

Packers. And unfortunately for Green Bay, it's

3:06

the two who are the most likely

3:09

to lose some of these games but

3:12

those two teams also play each other.

3:14

And so someone's gotta win them.

3:16

It

3:19

is extremely extremely unlikely.

3:21

The Eagles are gonna win that division. The

3:23

cowboys, the

3:25

giants and the commanders could all get in.

3:27

That

3:31

being said, I understand

3:35

that the floor saying,

3:40

this was supposed to be a championship level

3:42

team. Things didn't

3:44

play out that way for

3:46

from a

3:46

million different reasons.

3:48

Saying

3:51

before the season is really truly

3:53

over, throwing

3:56

in the towel

3:56

could

3:59

have negative impacts in the locker

4:01

room.

4:03

It could have players going,

4:05

what's the deal? And then

4:07

you have guys not playing with effort.

4:09

When

4:10

you need a real evaluation of

4:13

these guys as much as possible down

4:15

the stretch.

4:16

So

4:18

if you're out on the floor, you're going yes.

4:22

We have to, as a team, play out

4:24

the string. And

4:26

that means if Aaron Rogers is cleared

4:28

to go, Aaron Rogers

4:30

saying.

4:31

Now it's not always if Aaron Rogers wants to

4:33

play. It does seem like

4:35

Rogers understands that at a certain if

4:38

they're not chasing the playoffs, it doesn't make sense

4:40

for him to be out there. That's an important

4:42

step that we can't brush aside

4:44

because

4:45

if Rogers agrees,

4:48

hey, Once we're done

4:51

chasing the playoffs, it's time to

4:53

play Jordan Love. I don't

4:55

need to be out there. then

4:58

I think that that is a signal to your

5:00

team to everything's

5:02

fine. This is not, you know, tanking.

5:06

You do send a little bit of a tanking message

5:08

if you sit before you

5:10

need to. Now, I

5:12

think everyone is an adult. And

5:15

these guys know you're always putting

5:17

this film on tape and

5:20

other teams are watching it. And

5:22

so if you're an Adrian Amos or a Darnell

5:24

Savage and you don't know what your future is on

5:26

this team,

5:27

you better put together some good tape here

5:29

down the stretch.

5:30

because you want someone else

5:33

to say that

5:34

guy can play for us.

5:36

If

5:36

you're Dean Lowery, who just restructured

5:39

his contract. if

5:41

you're, you know, a Chris Barnes

5:44

or, you know, offensively, if you're now

5:46

on the czar. If

5:48

you're a Sammy Saying and you still wanna

5:50

play and you get a couple reps or whatever, you still

5:52

wanna maximize those reps. Packers

5:56

don't tend to tank. Teams do

5:58

organizationally with the products that

5:59

they put on the field.

6:02

Putting Jordan Love out there would be a signal

6:05

before

6:06

you're ready. Now again,

6:08

I I think you have to trust your locker room. You

6:10

have to trust your guys. to

6:12

go

6:12

out and still do their jobs, but I understand

6:15

the position the coach is in to

6:18

if if I am going to ask

6:20

you guys every day to bus your

6:22

butts.

6:24

In practice saying back to spring,

6:26

then

6:28

I have to do what's right by you and

6:30

give the team the best chance to win every time

6:32

we go out there because if we're not to

6:34

win, what are we playing to do?

6:38

So this is a

6:40

delicate line to walk. It is easy

6:42

for me as an outsider to say,

6:45

this is the best thing long term for the team.

6:48

Now, I still think if you're buying good

6:50

against and Mark Murphy, you

6:53

are

6:54

not as worried about that. You're going

6:56

floor. It's your job to manage the locker

6:58

room.

6:59

Figure out how to sell this.

7:01

Coming out of the buy, it's Jordan Love robust.

7:03

But

7:07

I also understand. This

7:10

might be the last stretch of games

7:12

Aaron Rodgers plays in Green Bay. He may just

7:14

decide he's done. Now

7:16

he doesn't sound like a guy who's done. I

7:18

continue to believe that he would he will

7:20

play in twenty twenty three. I

7:22

continue to believe he's not walking away from

7:25

sixty million in twenty

7:26

twenty three, but

7:28

it

7:30

is the kind of thing

7:33

where there's

7:35

a chance. Right? He's Aaron

7:37

Rodgers. He is a complicated fella,

7:39

and he could just decide, you know what? This

7:42

team is not where it it

7:44

needs to be for me to compete for titles.

7:46

The best thing for them

7:48

is to play Jordan Love. And the best

7:50

thing for me is to go to New York and play

7:52

with Michael Flor and try and win a championship

7:54

in New York because if I win a championship

7:56

in New York, I will be a conquering

7:59

hero. He

8:01

immediately would be the biggest

8:03

star in New York, move over Aaron Judge.

8:06

Sorry.

8:08

If

8:09

Aaron if Aaron Rodgers wins a title with the

8:11

Jets, he becomes the biggest celebrity

8:13

in New York City. He becomes

8:15

the biggest celebrity in the biggest

8:17

city in America. That's

8:21

tell me that's Bears not a little bit of

8:23

allure there.

8:25

That's an interesting

8:27

proposition. So

8:30

this is you know, III may

8:32

the case yesterday, and I believe in the case

8:34

that I made yesterday, but I understand

8:37

too, it's more complicated than

8:39

that.

8:39

And it's more complicated than that from out

8:41

the floor.

8:42

Now, all

8:43

of that being said, it

8:47

doesn't

8:49

really change what I said yesterday because I

8:51

said, look, fine. Let them play

8:53

in Chicago. Because by

8:55

the time You

8:58

know, the Rams game rolls around, they

9:01

could be out of it. But if they're not,

9:03

guess

9:03

what the Rams game could be?

9:06

the last

9:06

home game for Aaron in Agreement

9:08

PACCAR's Packers.

9:10

Does he want

9:12

that opportunity? Now, if he's

9:15

Doin', I'm playing I'm playing

9:17

next year. So

9:19

who cares? I think,

9:21

you know, Yeah. Then it's then it's play Jordan love time.

9:23

If if the path is

9:25

those for those last four games, you have to

9:27

win out and eighteen different things have to

9:29

happen, which by the way is kind of the path

9:31

now. So the the bears game

9:33

doesn't really change that much

9:35

for me. But you might have,

9:37

teams might clench over the next

9:39

two weeks. The Vikings have a chance

9:41

to clench the north.

9:43

So, you

9:45

know, then you're fighting for wild cards and

9:47

it's a lot of different kinds of if this

9:49

and then point differential and

9:52

conference record and all that stuff,

9:54

is that

9:56

the same thing as actually being alive

9:58

in the playoff race?

10:02

I don't think so. I

10:04

don't think so. So

10:07

we'll

10:08

see. I i'm

10:12

think what happens post buy is going to

10:14

tell us everything we need to know.

10:16

Because I expect them to go in and

10:18

beat Chicago. And

10:21

then we'll see.

10:23

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10:25

starting quarterback for the agreement packers when they take

10:27

on the LA Rams two and a

10:29

half weeks from now at Lambo

10:31

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10:33

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10:35

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you get podcasts. Is

13:00

it Jordan

13:00

Love Aaron? I

13:02

don't know. We will see.

13:04

It sounds like it won't be coming up on

13:06

Sunday against the Chicago bears that Aaron won't

13:08

get a chance to

13:11

continue to own the Chicago Bears?

13:13

Are there lizard people living at the

13:15

center of the earth? I don't know.

13:17

But but maybe Deshaun Keiser can

13:19

tell If you don't know reference, go find the interview that has

13:21

been making the rounds on on Twitter.

13:24

Maybe Lily Zhao has some thoughts on all of

13:26

these things. Joining me

13:28

now as she does every

13:30

Wednesday from Fox six in Milwaukee,

13:32

Lily's out. Lily, I will not ask

13:34

for your thoughts

13:36

on lizard people who live in the center of the earth, but

13:38

I will ask you. Is that you doing?

13:41

Hey,

13:41

Pierre. I'm doing well. Sadly,

13:43

you know what? I don't really have any sort of

13:44

conspiracy theories.

13:46

Right. Although I'm kind of, like, how does

13:49

Santa go down the chimney

13:50

shoot?

13:51

I don't know about that one.

13:54

But you know, anything else? I I don't

13:56

really have conspiracy theories out there, but I'm

13:58

interested in lizard people, so we'll go with it.

13:59

But anyways, I'm doing well. So

14:02

how are you

14:02

doing? I'm I'm good.

14:05

I I thought we addressed this.

14:08

Allen made a movie in the nineties called the

14:10

Santa Claus. You can watch it. This

14:12

is canonical, so this is how Santa

14:14

Claus works. Everyone should know that. And

14:17

so one of my favorite, I remember having to go saying

14:19

to go see it in the movie theater and it was sold out. The only

14:21

movie I ever went to that could not get in because it

14:23

was sold out. We had to come back at different day. Oh,

14:25

that sucks. Yeah. And

14:27

it's it's still a great movie. I I we

14:30

still watch it around the holidays. It's it holds

14:32

up. It really does. Well, Speaking

14:35

of holding up, it sounds

14:37

like Aaron Rogers is going

14:39

to play. The scans came back on his

14:41

ribs. At least according

14:43

to him, on

14:43

the Pat McAfee Show, Matt La Fluor

14:46

sounded less sure on Monday in his press

14:48

conference with with media.

14:51

Are are you surprised that

14:53

this is the the

14:55

the route that that Rogers wants

14:57

to take at this point in the season.

15:00

I I don't know if I'm surprised. I think

15:02

I was kind of expecting this because,

15:04

again, he's a guy that, you know, his thumb's

15:06

been broken for amount of

15:08

weeks and, you know, he really wouldn't disclose it and

15:10

he's tough. I Doin' even play through a lot of

15:12

pain. You know, he knows he's

15:14

the heck guy there, so he's not gonna

15:16

you

15:16

know, oh, I'm I'm nicked up a little bit even though

15:18

an oblique. And if some injury isn't a little bit,

15:20

but I think in his mind, he's like, well, I can still function. I

15:23

can still play. I wanna be out there.

15:25

again,

15:26

I think if this is more of a

15:29

severe injury, I don't think he would be, you

15:31

know, putting himself in a position to get hurt

15:33

even worse. But I think, you know, a can happen

15:35

now until Sunday when they do play. So

15:38

it's encouraging the scans to come

15:40

back well and then, you know, like

15:42

metall forms that it is it is healthy, ready to go, he'll

15:44

play. But I think a lot

15:46

of people were kind of wondering, can

15:48

you keep your sit out and heal, but I just

15:50

don't think that's Sproger's mentality to

15:53

to think that I can

15:54

still function, I can still play. I don't wanna be

15:56

sitting on the sidelines.

15:58

If if you were

16:00

Maleflor, would this

16:02

be the decision you

16:04

make?

16:06

I it's

16:07

tough because, again, you have a holiday

16:10

quarterback who you tied a lot of money to who's

16:12

the faisier franchise. I don't think

16:14

anyone has the kahontas

16:16

the kahontas to

16:18

saying, let's him

16:20

for George Love. very

16:22

impressive Love's progress. I I think

16:24

he'll he'll do well whenever he does step Doin', hopefully

16:27

sometime this year. But I don't think anyone in that

16:29

organization will saying,

16:31

hey, let's Rodgers

16:33

for love when he saying physically

16:35

can play. But if I'm at the floor

16:37

and you're looking at the scenario of, okay,

16:39

if this team's plan, chances are legitimately,

16:42

like,

16:43

thinner than thin. So is there a

16:45

risk of having Zhao out there and and getting him

16:47

hurt long term? Of course, there is. But I

16:49

know the floor is tied to Rodgers that

16:51

way where he's not gonna not

16:53

gonna say no.

16:54

What I'm hearing and and the

16:56

aggregators, you can all pick this up if

16:58

anyone's listening that writes for one of those

17:00

aggregation sites.

17:02

Local reporter says she has more cohenes than Matt

17:04

La Flora. Put that in that headline Not,

17:06

I said. We will be there, but no. No. Of course

17:09

not. The

17:13

the Joe Barry question, Lillian,

17:15

How

17:16

surprised

17:18

are

17:18

you that he is still the

17:21

defensive coordinator of the Green Bay Packers?

17:23

man, I

17:24

I never advocate for anybody to

17:26

lose their jobs. I know I know

17:28

it's gonna be rare for them to make a changement

17:31

season. However, it is

17:33

kind of questionable at this

17:35

point where, you know, if

17:36

you're

17:37

not gonna release Bears which

17:39

we don't

17:39

know the future of him with this organization

17:41

moving forward, but you know, with how

17:43

the defense is played, I don't think you can

17:46

discount potentially giving somebody else the

17:48

reins in calling those defensive plays. is

17:50

not a knock on Gilberry in that regard.

17:52

It's whatever they're doing now,

17:54

but the scheme is not working. So

17:56

why not try to find some other avenue to

17:58

improve that? Because again, Finn

18:00

is

18:00

defend, but there's still a chance out there.

18:02

It's not like they're completely out of the play

18:04

on

18:04

punt just yet. But,

18:07

yes, it I don't

18:08

think him being here now is surprising

18:10

per se because I just don't think Matt La Flora

18:12

would, you know, do that shake up mid

18:15

season, but I will say it's a little surprising that they haven't

18:17

gone another avenue in terms of maybe

18:19

somebody else calling the place saying

18:20

that regard.

18:21

I, like, I

18:23

wanna be surprised by it. I really do,

18:25

but I'm not I just like, I I don't I'm

18:27

not surprised by the

18:29

Aaron Rogers decision. I'm not surprised by the

18:32

Gilberry decision. Are

18:33

they the decisions that I would make? Probably

18:35

not. But the other thing is

18:37

I don't have to make them so easier for me or for you or for

18:39

someone on the outside to say, this is

18:41

the easy thing here

18:43

and we don't have go

18:45

to work with that person. We haven't been going to work with that person every day for

18:47

the last, in this case, with Malibu, Lauren, Aaron

18:50

You know, three plus seasons, in the case

18:52

of Gilberry, almost two seasons.

18:54

So and they have a history, I

18:56

get that it's more complicated than that and and

18:58

I am like you. I always feel a little icky about

19:00

saying this person should be fired. Like,

19:02

look, I I hate that.

19:06

Still, this

19:06

is it seems like it's an untenable situation.

19:09

For the

19:10

Packers and and the Eagles game,

19:13

You mentioned Jordan Love.

19:15

When Jordan Love gets the chance

19:17

to come in before he even steps on

19:19

the field, when you see Aaron Rodgers go

19:21

to the locker room, What

19:23

is your immediate thought as it relates to Jordan

19:25

Love? Howard Bauchner: It

19:26

was, you know, what can

19:28

we expect to see out of him this

19:30

time around? We've seen him make a

19:32

start Kansas City, you know, I'm sure,

19:34

you know, he would even say, like, yeah, I could play better

19:36

in that game. And he was, you know, he knew

19:38

he was gonna be starting that game,

19:41

I think I was wondering, can we see the

19:43

Jordan love that could potentially be

19:45

the face, the full on face of this

19:47

franchise in the future moving forward?

19:49

Right? Because whatever happens with Aaron or Rodgers, they

19:51

haven't traded love yet. You know, they love them

19:53

for a reason. They kept on them for a reason.

19:55

What's that reason? And I think we saw that

19:57

against the Eagles for a very, very small sample size.

19:59

You looked a lot more

19:59

comfortable out there. You

20:02

know, the field of awareness on his running, you

20:04

know, he's knew we can still figure it but

20:06

I got his arm looked great. I thought he

20:08

looked really comfortable in the pocket.

20:10

I was impressed with his progress.

20:12

And and, you know, even Aaron said he he

20:14

loved that, you know, he was

20:16

able to see Jordan

20:17

become more comfortable in the growth there. And

20:19

and he said, you know, I feel like

20:21

happened big brother watching him play out there, but I

20:23

was impressed. I I like when I saw him Jordan

20:25

out there. Can I

20:27

can I hit you with a conspiracy theory?

20:29

It's not mine. Right. I did not present this,

20:31

but I was presented to me yesterday

20:34

that that the reason

20:35

Aaron Rodgers wants to continue to play

20:37

this season is because he knows

20:39

the more games Jordan Love has, the

20:42

more he will show that he is

20:44

worthy of being a franchise

20:46

quarterback. Just

20:48

people are saying this. I'm just

20:50

your reaction, Lilly. You know, I

20:52

don't think it's

20:54

it's surprising mindset to have. Right?

20:56

Because when you're when you're a quarterback that's kind of

20:58

you have a couple of years left because you're not gonna play

21:00

until you're fifty. You know, you always

21:02

kind of have to wonder it is is my

21:04

final year?

21:04

Are they looking for my future? And, you know, of course,

21:07

that happened a couple of years ago when they grabbed the

21:09

Jordan. So I'm pretty sure it's it's

21:11

obviously in Roger's mind of, you

21:13

know, I he did it to Brett

21:15

Farf. Exactly. And and

21:17

this

21:17

this this the stat fifteen years ago, Rodgers

21:19

comes in for Farfetch in almost to the day

21:21

fifteen years ago. That's love comes in

21:23

for Roger. So I'm pretty sure that's in his mind of,

21:25

you know, one day this kid could take my

21:27

job, but I think for him, it's it's still he came

21:29

in a hundred percent ready to go for this team.

21:31

He wants to finish But again, the injuries were

21:34

kind of making it more of a narrative,

21:36

I would say, unless, you

21:37

know, had

21:38

Rogers been healthy the entire season.

21:40

I don't

21:40

think Rogers is is scared of that. I really don't. I

21:42

think he like, from day one, I think he's always

21:44

been out to prove, look, I'm I'm

21:47

I'm

21:47

good enough that you don't have to worry about whether or not

21:49

Jordan Love is good. I think that's sort of his

21:52

mindset. Yeah. But it's also

21:54

true that

21:55

The more Aaronroders plays and the less Jordan Love

21:58

plays, the more Aaronroders has control over

21:59

his future. Right? Because the less

22:02

information you have on Jordan Love, the harder it is

22:04

to say,

22:05

okay, Erin, if

22:06

you wanna play here, we don't want you to play here because you'd

22:08

need a bigger sample size from Jordan Love.

22:10

Right? To say, we're gonna

22:12

move on with with

22:14

love the

22:14

way that they did with Aaron Rodgers and Brett

22:17

Farf. All that being

22:19

said, and I

22:19

I think it's fine if if Packers and

22:22

Rogers are gonna play this week. Do

22:24

you have an ideal time frame to

22:26

see Jordan Love given that

22:28

we expect that the packers are

22:30

not gonna make or continue to be in the

22:32

playoff chase through the end of the season?

22:34

Another great question. I

22:36

would say Packers packer's chances are

22:38

like a little bit above slim

22:40

to none. Like, if there's still legitimately

22:43

a shot, Rogers is obviously playing. I

22:45

think maybe the

22:46

last couple weeks of this season is when we

22:48

see love, but I it's like, and I just

22:50

don't see love really having

22:53

a big enough role on the offense unless

22:55

it's in cleanup time or if

22:57

Rogers

22:57

gets hurt again. But

22:59

the narrative is it's it's

23:01

they're

23:01

completely out of it and there's a

23:03

game left, like, the lion's game or the game

23:06

or whatnot. potentially in that game,

23:08

but I I still think that Aaron is

23:10

their guy, and he's their starter, and we'll

23:12

see him until he really can't play

23:14

anymore this year. It's

23:15

interesting. I I

23:17

my buddy Jacob Westendorf who

23:20

covers his team over at Game Mountain, Wisconsin

23:22

as a podcast. he suggested

23:25

that they they

23:26

will try and get him a home game if

23:28

he can play just in case.

23:30

Because, you know, who knows? could

23:32

want to retire. And Rodgers

23:35

the game on Sunday said, look, once we're mathematically

23:37

eliminated, we could have another conversation about whether

23:39

or not I should be out there. I

23:41

do think there is some

23:43

you know, just like he's earned the right that

23:46

if he wants to play one more home game and

23:48

that's it, then that makes sense. So that

23:50

would be the Rams coming out of the buy. That would

23:52

leave three games. think

23:54

three games is probably a nice sample size, right,

23:56

at Miami, and then

23:57

you have two home games, division

23:59

opponents. Like, I

24:00

think fans would love to see Jordan love.

24:02

the last two weeks in a way that, like, they were

24:04

not as stoked to see Brett Hundley

24:07

or know or to see to Sean Keiser. Right?

24:09

Like, that that that was it was not the

24:11

same situation. It

24:12

it could be, you know,

24:15

albeit saying glorious one, but an

24:17

opportunity to get him one last opportunity to playing in

24:19

front of Lambo fuel crowd. Right. And and,

24:20

you know, those games are still gonna

24:22

be important who knows what the lines are gonna be?

24:24

Maybe they're fine. because that's not a wild card spot.

24:26

Maybe the vikings are fine for the top

24:28

eat, and so those those games are still gonna be important.

24:31

But it's kind of as you mentioned, if it gets

24:32

a couple two or three games, it's kind of

24:34

like a preseason slate.

24:37

put games that matter in a big way. So

24:39

it would be a really good test for him to to

24:41

really put on the blinders and say, okay, if

24:43

I'm gonna be the face of this franchise

24:45

moving forward, like, gotta perform in

24:47

these games. I think it'd be a great sample size

24:49

for him. But, again, I just don't have to

24:51

see that really happening unless something

24:53

happens with brothers. It

24:55

It is the the it is the case

24:57

that with three games left,

24:59

like, if

25:00

you look at the commanders, they have a three game lead right

25:02

now, plus the tie break. That's really three and half

25:04

games. Yeah. So if things saying the way

25:06

they are, that's they're not

25:08

catching the commanders. The cowboys,

25:10

record wise, unless the cowboys just are like peeing

25:12

down their Bears. They're not gonna catch them,

25:14

and then that leaves the giants who also

25:16

have the tie break. And I believe

25:18

that's a four game lead right now.

25:20

and then the Seahawks who also have a three

25:22

game lead. So it's not out of

25:24

the question that with three games left,

25:27

they're out of it. and

25:28

that would us sample size. Just an interesting thing to

25:30

think about. The packers play

25:32

the bears this week Bears incredibly Doin'

25:35

up Bear's team, Eddie Jackson,

25:37

has a apparently,

25:39

a serious foot injury. He's not gonna play.

25:41

Darnell Mooney is not going to play. So

25:44

even if Justin Fields plays, it is the skeleton

25:47

crew for the packers against

25:49

the bears.

25:51

what

25:52

what gives you any hope that the packers can stop

25:55

the run well enough that this is the kind

25:57

of game that that gets them right as a

25:59

team a little bit to to have, you know, the

26:01

sort of impressive win that you'd wanna

26:03

see. It is just

26:03

I don't know, Peter. It's just something about the packers

26:06

and the bearers Bears just kind of

26:08

like capers are gonna come out the wind, somehow, some

26:10

way they're gonna find the

26:11

wind in this game. Right? I will say though,

26:13

I I was really encouraged with what I saw

26:16

offensively from them last week despite know,

26:18

the two picks. And I thought

26:19

the running

26:20

game picked up. I thought AJ Dillon played

26:23

great. They were able to get those

26:25

running backs in space, which is what

26:27

made. And I thought Christian yet

26:29

again. Great game for him. So I I

26:31

think there were big strides made on the offensive side, but

26:33

like you mentioned defensively, especially

26:35

when, you know, if Justin Fields is

26:38

playing, he's gonna be I

26:39

don't know. He's nicked up now. He's not gonna be a hundred

26:42

percent, but again, he still has that factor with his legs, and he is

26:44

rushing like nobody's business. So

26:46

they need to find a way I mean, the

26:48

previous week, they gave it three hundred Aaron, some

26:50

through the air. Now it's three hundred yards on the ground.

26:52

So maybe it's three hundred yards, and he's

26:54

Trevor

26:54

Simien's saying. He's chucking it down the

26:57

field, but they they need to

26:59

figure out something defensively with that

27:00

run defense because it was not

27:03

good.

27:03

If you're having over twenty miss

27:05

tackles, I mean, that's not how

27:07

you're

27:07

playing one in football. They need to shore that

27:09

up, Peter. because like you mentioned, that could be the recipe

27:12

for success for the bears because you still gave

27:14

it Montgomery, who can run really,

27:16

really hard. in field saying, that's

27:18

gonna be another factor. But

27:20

I

27:20

somehow feel like the Packers are gonna win this

27:22

because it's Packers Bears and

27:24

Rogers will probably have a

27:26

good game, you see? I think all

27:28

that is true. I think this is gonna be another

27:30

Christian Watson game. Like, we've been it's all it's

27:32

almost like Christian Watson has made up for

27:34

all the times that we predicted he was gonna be the x factor

27:37

and he got hurt in those games. Yeah. Now all of

27:39

a sudden he is the x factor every week.

27:41

Like, I can't let you go and not ask you about

27:43

Christian Watson because the

27:44

the the

27:47

play, right, the sixty yard touchdown,

27:50

that

27:50

is what the packers drive that ability.

27:52

And I don't know that they've had a guy who can do

27:55

that. Ever, like, maybe

27:57

Prime Jordi Nelson, like, I'm thinking of a

27:59

play against

27:59

the Patriots in twenty fourteen where he

28:02

took a slant to the house against

28:04

Dorel Rivas and Outran the whole

28:06

defense, and that was sort of like the play that

28:08

broke the Patriots back.

28:10

But man,

28:10

that it is he is so fun. He

28:12

is so fun. He is so

28:14

fun. And he just turned on those burners,

28:16

and I'm like, those guys are not gonna

28:18

catch them. and waist

28:20

angles. Right. And it was so it's so

28:22

unfortunate he's been dinged up this season because imagine

28:24

we had a whole slate with him in

28:27

training camp in the regular season. Imagine what the stats could be.

28:29

Imagine, you know, how potent this offense

28:31

could have been. If you'd been, you know,

28:33

healthy the entire Bears, but

28:35

That being said, him being on the field, I mean,

28:37

it's electric, and I

28:39

predict a big bomb

28:41

to Watson on

28:42

Sunday. Alright. Not a

28:45

hat. You're old. You are old. No. Of course,

28:47

this will be the week that he has, like, zero

28:49

catches. It's, like, the Randall Cobb game -- Yeah.

28:51

-- or something like that. That's just that's just

28:53

the way that the season has gone. Lilly, last

28:55

thing, I asked you before

28:57

thanksgiving, your favorite thanksgiving

28:59

food. What I'll I'll I'll

29:01

ask

29:01

you this in reverse now. Zhao was

29:03

the best thing that you ate over the

29:06

weekend? Oh,

29:07

you know what? I would say the

29:10

ham Oh. Me some

29:10

ham. It's so good. And

29:13

then I

29:13

okay. Other than the mashed potatoes, I drenched that

29:15

thing with gravy. Of

29:17

course. I

29:19

did have stuffing this year,

29:21

which I I am remiss to say, I did not

29:23

have stuffing or dressing, whatever you call it.

29:25

But

29:25

will say my my ham and mashed

29:28

potatoes and gravy. So good. Hand

29:29

and mashed potatoes. That's really all you need. No.

29:32

Hand and potatoes. Like, that's just it's a

29:34

they're They're a classic combination for

29:36

a reason. Lilly, I appreciate your time.

29:38

We will talk to you next week,

29:41

and and maybe we'll be talking about

29:43

another Christian Watson show up.

29:45

That

29:45

would be great. That would be great. Thanks Lily.

29:47

Thanks here. Thanks to

29:48

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