0:05

They don't get deals that They

0:08

they wait slaves for a little bitches. Come

0:10

over in make a sour and grow

0:12

their brand. What kind of? They

0:14

they wait slaves for a little bitches.

0:18

Thank you. Why? Why? We're

0:22

a little bit god

0:25

bless the Talk Boy. Those things almost like five thousand

0:28

dollars now. It's an expensive gag. So

0:30

didn't want to have to do this, but daily

0:33

wire out of themselves very,

0:35

very quickly. And sure enough,

0:39

if you see all of the people who who work there,

0:41

some of whom I have relationships with.

0:43

They immediately tried to make this all

0:46

about money. Here's

0:49

the problem. There are a few problems. And I'll go

0:51

through with some receipts. Everything

0:53

that was said about negotiations, how

0:55

they transpired, beyond the numerical

0:58

value. Which is true and I'll get to.

1:00

Everything else is untrue. I

1:02

don't really wanna get into that. It's completely irrelevant.

1:04

Here's why. Go

1:07

back to the twenty something minute video,

1:09

thirty minute video. You've never

1:11

heard me say or write

1:13

anywhere

1:14

online. That these offers weren't

1:16

paying enough money. Why?

1:20

Because it's not about the money

1:24

It's it's it's kind of unreal to me that the only

1:26

thing these people can still talk about is the

1:28

money. The conversation was about

1:31

conservatism, the movement,

1:33

and big tech, they keep talking about

1:35

money. I'm talking about a country. I'm

1:37

talking about a movement. I'm talking

1:39

about making a difference. It's

1:42

not about the money and Jeremy

1:44

and the DailyWire. Know that. How

1:47

do I know they know that? Because after

1:49

according to what he said, you know, I walked away

1:51

from the offer, I did place one

1:54

more call. To the daily wire.

1:56

And I made it very, very clear that

1:59

it wasn't about money. That was not

2:01

the topic of conversation. There was

2:03

zero as they've tried to portray this miscommunication.

2:07

It was one last call where the

2:09

only thing that I asked

2:11

for. My only demand was

2:14

their word and not even

2:16

for me. But for other

2:19

people coming up, facing

2:22

these kinds of contracts. Let's

2:24

say Takeda comes in with five hundred thousand YouTube

2:26

subscribers or something like they're hundred

2:28

thousand. Let's say some other kid, you're paying you're

2:30

paying six figures to come in and do it. There's

2:32

there's not the penalty of the demonetization or

2:34

if they're removed from

2:35

iTunes, Apple, YouTube.

2:38

Yeah. Sure that would be. Here's

2:42

something else. I was also

2:45

very measured. I was painstakingly

2:47

clear in taking myself off

2:50

the table because it wasn't going to be a right

2:52

fit that happens in business all the time.

2:55

But that we weren't talking about me.

2:57

We were talking about the futures

2:59

of other people who could potentially

3:02

be in that

3:02

position. That very disconcerting position.

3:05

No miscommunication. What

3:08

I'm talking about is you're describing a model

3:10

for everyone, a model for everyone, not

3:12

just let's get get rid of me here. Everyone,

3:15

if there's a penalty for being demonetized

3:18

on YouTube, because your business

3:20

model requires that be a huge component

3:23

of it, you need to change your business

3:25

model or this movement cannot

3:27

work, Jeremy. We I can't imagine

3:29

my show trying to come up and

3:31

be beholden to

3:34

advertiser guidelines. Let

3:36

alone, I mean, honestly, being beholden

3:38

from a conservative entity with

3:40

hard strikes, right, being removed, but let

3:42

alone being advertiser friendly. We know how

3:44

broad those guidelines are. They they might as well just

3:47

read, don't say anything offensive, and

3:49

they change them at the drop drop of a hat.

3:52

I'm not suggesting that if that the

3:54

guidelines aren't terrible. I'm suggesting that

3:56

if making money off of those platforms

3:58

is part of how you're justifying the salary and you're

4:00

paying somewhat. Then when or

4:03

the fear well, I keep saying so.

4:05

The fear being someone. Then when

4:07

those go away, Everybody

4:10

loses money. You can't pay the same amount with

4:12

less revenue.

4:13

How about you create a different business model?

4:15

No. III know what when you're thinking,

4:17

of course, telling someone else, hey, hey, change your business model.

4:19

I I get it. I'm in no position

4:22

to say that. Unless, instead

4:24

of Monday morning, quarterbacking it,

4:28

here's the thing. I didn't

4:30

just offer criticisms. I offered

4:32

a guide on how to here here's

4:34

the deal. I wanna sit at the table with

4:36

people who granted, have an immense amount of

4:38

power and have incredibly

4:40

deep pockets. That is all true.

4:42

To be clear. And by the way, it's something that I want

4:44

to have on our

4:46

side of the aisle, but I

4:48

offered a guide on how to do it. It is incumbent.

4:51

This is what this is about. It is

4:53

incumbent upon conservatives if

4:56

we believe what we say

4:58

to uncouple, to divest if you

5:00

wanna use that

5:01

term. From big tech. Right?

5:03

For the business models of the movement

5:05

as we move forward to not

5:08

rely on playing ball with

5:10

Facebook and with YouTube.

5:12

That is something that we have to

5:14

move toward. You know that we've been trying to do that

5:16

here for years. That's why every single

5:18

show, we say, hey, if you can watch on rumble, please

5:20

do so. We're not looking to be banned on YouTube,

5:23

but we certainly won't compromise

5:25

the truth in order

5:28

to be advertiser friendly. Here's

5:30

the thing. Here's the thing. DailyWire. Jeremy,

5:33

and I really do hope that we can talk at

5:35

some point. Please, you can pick up the phone.

5:37

We've done that. We

5:40

here have found a way to make that

5:42

work. For proof, see election

5:44

night are numbers on rumble there and see the

5:46

numbers on rumble when we get spent it from YouTube,

5:48

I think it was four times this last

5:50

year, and I went to great lengths

5:53

to communicate that to

5:55

the people at DailyWire. There

5:57

can be no next me if

5:59

the people at the top with

6:02

with, you know, the financial resources are

6:05

are doing the big that's that's being

6:07

the arm of Big Tech. What you just said

6:09

is, well, we have to play ball with Big Tech if

6:11

we wanna make money. Well, I don't.

6:13

Why don't you guys follow a model like I

6:15

have and scale it? That's that's what I've been

6:17

doing since twenty fourteen. You know, that has

6:19

been trying to make sure, which

6:21

I thought we were all doing, that we can

6:23

all flip the bird to Silicon

6:25

Valley. This is saying we

6:27

we need him and you need to play ball.

6:30

And by the way, before some of you ask for this,

6:33

look, there's always personal information on

6:36

on phone calls. And for the

6:38

record, I've recorded three

6:40

people on phone calls in my life. All

6:42

three are involved with Big Tech. Just

6:45

to be clear, the entire call transcript has

6:47

been sent to others to verify

6:50

without hopefully having to release the

6:52

whole thing. And I'll be on that tin pool show I

6:54

believe on Monday to talk about it. Now,

6:56

this is something else that's been brought to my attention

6:58

that, you know, look, some people

7:00

have been sent out from from DailyWire and have

7:02

gotten very, you know, very personal. Obviously,

7:05

when we released this video, we we didn't

7:07

name names, and I told you there are a lot of people

7:09

in the space who have made offers. And it is true. There

7:11

are quite a few. And there are some others that

7:13

have been pretty similar to this. This isn't

7:16

an incredible unique scenario, but there have been some

7:18

good people out there too. And we're still talking with

7:20

them. I do know that some people from

7:22

daily wire have sort of have come

7:24

out, maybe been instructed

7:26

to have no idea. I don't care. And

7:28

they've gotten very personal. I don't

7:30

wanna do that. At least I didn't want

7:32

to. But now it's sort of necessary

7:34

for me to do so. So

7:37

these are the only personal

7:39

things, I will say, about

7:41

the people at DailyWire. Andrew

7:44

Klabin is one of my favorite

7:46

people of all time. He

7:48

has an unbelievable skill to

7:50

make you feel like the smartest guy in the room

7:52

even though I guarantee you he's smarter than you.

7:54

There are very few people whose company I enjoy

7:56

more than Andrew Clayton. Jordan Peterson

7:59

is not only a friend. I would go to the

8:01

wall for him. He's a guy who has changed

8:03

the landscape of our country for

8:05

the better can't say enough good things about him.

8:07

Ben Shapiro is possibly the smartest

8:10

person. I know. That's

8:12

as personal as I'll get. Now, Here's

8:15

the thing. Only after that

8:17

final call, after negotiations had

8:19

fallen through. A pleading on

8:22

the side of principle and knowing

8:25

that it was completely met with deaf ears,

8:27

did I come out like I did? Here's

8:30

the thing. Daily, they keep talking about

8:32

a

8:32

business. Well, I walked

8:34

away from the table because I'm talking like it's

8:36

about a country, about a movement. And this is

8:38

the thing The response that I've heard over the years is not just

8:40

now, I've been doing this for a long

8:42

time. You constantly hear, it's just

8:44

business. It's just business.

8:47

Well, guess what? It's not

8:49

to me. Sure. I

8:51

run a business, but it's not

8:53

just business. And let me ask you, what

8:55

have you ever heard someone say it's

8:57

just business when they're doing

8:59

the right thing? Ever

9:01

hear someone give two hundred fifty thousand dollars to

9:03

charity and say it's just business? And

9:05

here's something that I would like to ask you because I

9:07

know that they've tried to play the identity politics

9:10

and misrepresent the

9:12

whole financial situation. But,

9:14

yeah, over the course of four or five

9:16

years, the total operational

9:18

budget, meaning twenty five, thirty

9:20

employees, all of the costs, security, health

9:22

insurance, would have been somewhere in the that's

9:24

a fifty million dollar ballpark. For

9:27

that total operational budget. That is

9:29

true. Okay. First

9:31

off, I think it's a good thing

9:33

for conservative companies out there to be generate generating

9:36

or capable of generating far more than

9:38

that. It'd be better than just

9:40

Disney and just Netflix and just Hulu

9:42

Plus. And I'd like

9:44

the people who are in charge of that to be people

9:46

who are willing to walk away from that if it comes with

9:48

strings attached. With people

9:50

who laid everything you stand for, So

9:53

let's take that at face

9:54

value. K? I

9:56

want you to ask yourself this

9:59

question. K? Put yourself

10:01

in my shoes. What

10:05

would it take? How much

10:07

do your principles matter to you?

10:10

What kind of a head space would

10:12

you have to be in to walk

10:15

away full stop from fifty million

10:17

dollars? I

10:19

mean, excuse me for the What

10:21

would it take for you to be willing to walk away

10:23

from at least fifty million dollars?

10:26

Because of it causing

10:28

harm, To someone else,

10:30

it doesn't even affect you. But

10:33

the next kid, I've

10:35

talked about this, you know, you have it in comedy. I

10:37

don't never gonna be the guy who

10:40

pulls the ladder up after

10:42

me. What motivates me

10:45

is not money. Of course, everyone here likes nice things.

10:47

They wanna make a living. You've heard me say

10:49

this many times, I wanna pass the

10:51

torch. I want there someone else to

10:53

do this. It can't happen if

10:56

this is how our movement is

10:58

structured. And and

11:01

you know that by the way, this

11:04

could do irreparable damage to the movement of

11:06

the country and the people who fought

11:08

so hard for the ground gained if we've decided to

11:10

get in bed with these people who want to

11:12

strip it away. I'm asking, would you

11:14

walk away? What would it take for you

11:16

to walk away? I'm

11:18

fifty million dollars because it's true. That's exactly

11:20

what I did. That's

11:24

exactly what I'm doing. And so

11:26

long as these contracts out

11:28

there include enforcement of

11:31

big tech, of punishing,

11:34

conservative creators on

11:37

behalf of the people we claim

11:39

to fight and the people who have long since

11:41

demonetized us and can't stand me. And

11:43

part of me doesn't blame them. As

11:45

long as these contracts include that

11:47

not even for me, but the next person,

11:49

I wouldn't take a billion dollars. And

11:54

certainly not, if you understand

11:56

in context, when behind closed

11:58

doors, I know

12:00

And these people know and

12:02

acknowledge exactly what's

12:04

being done to the next

12:06

generation of creators. Inch

12:08

count on young talent. They don't get deals

12:10

like this. They don't get

12:12

deals that They they wait

12:14

slaves for a little bit. Come

12:16

over and Make a salary and grow their

12:18

brand that you then

12:20

own. Oh, I

12:22

own parts of it. I don't own it. They

12:24

can when their contracts up, they can still go out and they'll still

12:26

be famous. They can keep doing their shows.

12:28

They'll go do a show somewhere else.

12:30

They'll be on far far far better place, you'd help to

12:32

make them? No. Not not not

12:34

all about this contract. This contract owns it in

12:36

perpetuity. Even after the contract, you're paying

12:38

a lease, but getting ownership. So

12:41

this contract is? On the

12:43

content that we paid to produce. Yes.

12:46

You look, I understand they're going to be

12:48

differing opinions on this. I understand that.

12:50

As someone who does run a

12:52

business and has to I think

12:54

maybe twenty five employees. I don't know. We're

12:56

expanding. I understand

12:58

people run businesses differently and have different

13:00

priorities. Here's the thing.

13:02

I I would genuinely still,

13:05

daily wire, Jeremy. Love

13:07

to sit down at the table. And

13:09

explain to you how

13:11

you can make all of this

13:14

work, how you can

13:16

scale what we do, and

13:19

not have to be beholden to the people who

13:22

we we all go out and claim that we're

13:24

fighting. And especially

13:26

with all of the financial resources that

13:29

you have, which by the way are very impressive.

13:31

And by the way, since

13:33

fielding requests for people who

13:35

sent this in under who you

13:37

guys are under these kinds of contracts, right, you've

13:39

sent in your emails. If you're

13:41

looking to either join at work or looking to

13:43

navigate these contracts. We've been flooded.

13:45

I'm gonna try and get to all of you.

13:48

But here's the thing. Let me give you my

13:50

word. Right now, my word. Everyone

13:52

you can time stamp it, call me on it. Here at

13:54

mug club, we will

13:57

never take any ownership

13:59

over your social media platforms

14:01

or your channels, and I don't

14:03

want a dime ever of

14:05

your YouTube revenue. You make your

14:07

own decision as to whether you want to be

14:09

monetized or not. Some people want to? Some

14:11

people don't. I just have a

14:13

problem with requiring that

14:15

you do. And penalizing you,

14:18

if you don't. And to

14:21

daily wire to the rest

14:23

of the people out there give me

14:25

a call and look,

14:28

let me put it this way. If

14:30

you give me your word This

14:32

is all that matters here. Just give me your word

14:34

that there will never be a clause in a contract

14:37

again for some unsuspecting kid

14:39

or someone who doesn't have the luxury to

14:41

walk away from fifty million

14:43

dollars. As I did true, guilty is

14:45

charged. Give me your word that you will

14:47

not penalize them twenty

14:49

five percent for demonetization, another

14:52

twenty percent for a strike,

14:54

another twenty for Facebook, Spotify,

14:56

Apple, to eighty percent. Just give me

14:58

your word that that

15:01

clause, that that spirit will not

15:03

be in any contract sent

15:05

out to anyone else who's at the front

15:07

lines fighting for this country

15:10

and we're done. All of this

15:12

stops right now. You will

15:14

never hear from me again. I will

15:16

go out and sing your praises.

15:18

You can pick up the phone. You

15:20

have my word. That's all it

15:21

is. That's all

15:23

this is about. In

15:26

the interim to everyone

15:28

else, Stop big

15:30

con dot com. Be a

15:32

signatory. I'll see you

15:34

Monday, Tim Poor.