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We didn't get lucky for
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someone to be attracted to us. If
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someone's attracted to you, there's
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been because there's something attractive about
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me. I
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was coaching a woman in my love life coaching
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group recently who told me, Matthew, I
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always date avoidance. These people
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just break my heart every time.
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They don't want a relationship. They make up
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excuses as to why they can't have
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one. So I wanna talk about what it
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is. That was going on with
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this person and see
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if you can relate. If you
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know that you keep going for the kinds
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of people that ultimately break your
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heart. This
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is a woman who had talked about having
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done this many times I
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have a pattern of going
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for people who are avoidant and
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who eventually hurt
1:10
me. Now, avoidan is a word that
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is used often in attachment theory,
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the idea of an avoidan being
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someone who is potentially
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afraid of commitment or even commitment phobic.
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It could be characterized by someone who is
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easily suffocated or finds
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that they have a need for space that
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people who are anxiously attached don't.
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It can also be a kind of person that often
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finds rash finalizations for
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why they can't be
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intimate or have a relationship. Now,
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of course, there's a whole spectrum of avoidance
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and not every avoidance is incapable of
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a relationship. Many people are in relationships
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with avoidance, even successful ones.
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But there is a kind of avoidant
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person. Who will willingly
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waste your time and becomes
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a very dangerous person in
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your life, not just for time but for your
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heart too. When she told me her story,
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she said that a typical line
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she gets from guys is you're
2:07
too good for me. And I
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I suppose we should start by saying that anyone
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who says you're too good for me.
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That's like guy language for
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I feel guilty because I know
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I'm stringing you along. And I
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know it's gonna hurt you and I know
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that our goals are different and I'm being
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willfully ignorant of that and
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I'm gonna continue to try
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to see you and use you for my own
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ends even though I know this is gonna hurt
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you. I feel guilty about that. So I'm
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gonna say you're too good for me
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because it's somehow makes me
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look like the wounded soldier in all
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of this and that's a sympathetic role
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to play rather than the perpetrator
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of your pain. You're
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too good for me. That's that rationalization,
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isn't it? I can't be deeply
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connected to you. I can't really commit
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to you because you're too
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good for me. Often what you'll find by the
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way with avoidance is that the rationalizations
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they use for why they can't be too close
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or why they can't commit will make them
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seem in some way either heroic
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or sympathetic In other
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words, whatever they say will often make
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them somehow come
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off smelling of roses and you
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more confused than ever.
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In this particular woman's case,
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she was currently engaged in a
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situation with a guy where he said
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to her in a conversation when she tried
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to bring up what it was
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or what they were heading towards. He
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actually said I really
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enjoy the relationship
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that we're having together, but I
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don't wanna talk about the
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relationship we're having together. I don't
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enjoy having conversations about
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it. And that again is like a hallmark,
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avoidant thing to say because
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what you're really saying is I'm enjoying
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what this is giving me. I'm enjoying existing
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in the moment with this thing.
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I'm enjoying using it to meet
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my needs. But
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anytime you talk about what
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this actually is, anytime
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it comes with any form of commitment
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or a vision. For where
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this might be going, which is a perfectly
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reasonable thing to want from somebody.
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I am freaked out. I
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am scared. I don't wanna have that conversation.
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Now, that's fine if someone
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doesn't wanna do that, but what we have to
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ask ourselves is if I
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am someone who
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wants to meet someone who
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is a teammate with
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me who has a vision
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with me. It feels like we're on a mission together.
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It feels like we're excited to build
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together. And those conversations are
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exciting to me. But to this
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person, They're nothing
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but negative. Why is it?
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I am still hanging around
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after a long time. It may be one
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thing if in the very beginning, someone
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is saying that because they're saying, hey,
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I certainly wanna see where this
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is going, but I also wanna make sure we
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go at an organic pace and I'm still
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getting to know you. That's fair enough that if
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you've been seeing someone for many
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months and they're still
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phobic of any conversation about
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what the two of you are or where
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your headed, that is a sign of an
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avoidant. And we have to ask ourselves, why
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is it? I keep entertaining this
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kind of person The thing I like
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saying to people is I don't want
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you to become a
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serious person all of the
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time. Who is constantly trying
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to scope out who's looking for
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something serious and you're grilling
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people with your questions to get to the
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bottom of it and there's no playfulness
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or sense of humor or romance
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in the process. I don't want you
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to become a serious person. I think the
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lighter more playful parts
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of ourselves are some of the most attractive,
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but I do believe that we need to get
5:53
serious about what it is
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we're actually looking for. And if
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we know that what's important
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to us right now is to find
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a meaningful committed relationship.
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Then I need to have a really
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strong internal compass that
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either says, yes, this
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person is a green light because I
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can see that they're showing signs,
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they're in the same place as me, or
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this is the wrong way. So
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why is it we keep saying yes to
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avoidance? Firstly, I
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want us to exercise a little
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self compassion if you
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identify with this. The woman that I
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was working with in
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reality, had had four
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or five relationships with
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avoidance. If you actually look at it over
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the context of a lifetime.
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And all of the growth work she had done,
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which she had done a lot, she had come a
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long way, she was self aware, she was
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introspect dive, she had clearly done a
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lot to build her confidence. There was an enormous
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amount for her to be proud of in her
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progress in life. But what she
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saw was I'm forty three and
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the relationships I've had have
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all been relationships with avoidance
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who eventually left me or just
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moved on to somebody else. I am a
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failure. And there's something
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wrong with me. I must be broken in some way
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because I keep repeating this. The
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thing I said to her is you didn't
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make a mistake every night.
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You've not been going out and making a mistake
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on every date you go on. And
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you're just making a thousand mistakes over the
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course of your lifetime. When you really look at
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these relationships you've had, they amount
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to four or five mistakes
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that cost a lot of time and
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energy. And I say that because I think
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sometimes we overstate when someone
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says, I always do this. When
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I really look at it for a lot of people,
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we're not talking about that many instances.
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We're not saying they had a hundred relationships and
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every single one of them was like this. We're
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talking about a small
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number of relationships that had
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an outsized impact on
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their life that created a
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dis proportionate amount of pain. And
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when relationships like that do
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create that much pain, they imprint
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on us in a way that makes us feel
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like our whole dating life,
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our whole mission to find love has been
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a global failure that
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we are a failure. Instead of actually
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seeing it like, you know what, if this was a scientific
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study, this wouldn't be that much data.
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This would be a very small
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data set. So we should exercise compassion
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towards ourselves. If you identify
8:25
with continually picking the wrong
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people Take a moment right now to just
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acknowledge how far
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you've come. Maybe there are instances
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where you feel like you're continuing to
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make some those same mistakes. Maybe you feel like
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you're still drawn to some of those things
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that aren't good for you. But where
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have you made progress. What standards
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of yours have
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increased? What self awareness
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have you gained in recent
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years? That means you are a different
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person than you were
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five years ago or even a year ago.
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But about ten years ago, this is really
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important because the story
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we have that I am
9:03
this person who does
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this creates this identity.
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There is this constant
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identity we're just saddled
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with. Instead of saying, no, no,
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no, all of this is operating on a
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continuum. If I've been consistently growing
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at some times maybe in undetectable
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ways, sometimes only by half a
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percent or one percent. That's
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still growth. And every one
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percent shift I get towards a a
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higher standard for myself or
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what treatment I will allow or more
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self awareness of my path patterns
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or more awareness of what's wrong
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when other people do it. Every
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one percent shift is getting me
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closer to a point where my behaviors,
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my actions, and what I
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accept will change.
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So take a moment even if
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you don't see the results of your love
9:51
life having changed. Take a moment to
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exercise gratitude and compassion
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towards yourself for how
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far you have actually moved.
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In terms of progress along that continuum.
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The next thing I wanna say is this, I
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want you to ask yourself, why
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is it? I keep going for these
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kinds of people that demonstrate
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often very early on
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that they don't want what
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I want. Why is we go
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for people? Where the goals are
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completely misaligned? Now
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often, people will cite chemistry.
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Connection, we had something really
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special. When we spend time together,
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it just it feels amazing. We
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have a really good thing. Everything
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is there. People often say things like
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that to me. It's all there. Everything
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that should be there is
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there. But for this one, tiny,
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pesky detail that they
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don't actually want to be with
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me. We talk about that as if it's a
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detail when that's
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actually the story. The story is
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in all of these ways that we
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align and all of the great conversation we
10:58
have and all of the great chemistry we have. The
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real story is, this person
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is not in a place where
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they can give me what I
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want. They do not want for
11:09
themselves a
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relationship. So right now, in
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this person's current form, this
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is a nonstarter, but
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why do we keep doing this? Why do
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we give someone like this more time
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and energy? And I believe at the heart of
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this for so many people, is
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this embedded fear that sort
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of derived from a deep sense
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of insecurity and scarcity. This
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attention I'm getting is
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valuable. It's sacred.
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It doesn't come along very often.
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And I don't know.
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When it's gonna come around again
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if I let go of this.
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And this is especially true if we've
11:47
been single for some time. And if
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we haven't felt any attention in a
11:51
while, especially you may have felt attention
11:53
from people you don't want, but you haven't felt
11:55
any attention from someone where you feel like the
11:57
attraction is mutual. And from
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that place, you look
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at this thing and you go, I can't let this
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go. Yes. There's
12:05
that one detail that
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they don't actually seem to want a relationship
12:10
with me. But the real
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story is that I have
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finally found someone with whom
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I have a connection with whom I
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have chemistry, where the conversation
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flows, where it feels like
12:23
real attraction. And I don't wanna let
12:25
that go because who knows
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when someone will want me again in
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this way? And especially if it's someone I'm
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attracted to in return. I want to get
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something clear because this
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all comes from this real
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sense of scarcity I can't
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afford to lose this
12:41
thing. What we fail to recognize
12:43
when we're in that mindset
12:45
is that we didn't
12:47
get lucky for
12:50
someone to be attracted to us. If
12:52
someone's attracted to you, That's
12:54
because there's something attractive about
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you. There's something about you
12:59
that was compelling or
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sexy or fun. Or great
13:03
to be around. You see, when this woman told
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me that, you know, this avoidant
13:07
guy said to her, I I love
13:09
being around you. I really enjoy
13:11
your company. I really enjoy
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seeing you. I'll miss you if we stop
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seeing each other. I just I
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just don't wanna be with
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you in a relationship. I don't think he
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was lying. About those
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other things. I think he's telling the truth, but
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he's also telling the truth when he says, I don't
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want a relationship. The reason
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that that's important is
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because all of those things that he's
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attracted to in her, she's
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responsible for those. He's
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not. He's just seeing someone who has active
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qualities and he's drawn to that.
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So she's not lucky. If
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there's someone who wants to spend time
13:46
with you, who enjoys being around you,
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who finds you attract who enjoys
13:50
your company who wants to talk to you
13:52
for hours on end. You didn't get
13:54
lucky. You're great. There
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are wonderful things about you. There
13:58
are attractive things about you. And if that
14:00
person found you great, and if the
14:02
last three people you date had found
14:04
you attractive, or found that there was
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something compelling about you, then that
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means thousands of
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people will feel that way. Those
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are just the four you met. Those were
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just the four that you happen to have that
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moment with, that you happen to date.
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Many, many more people can
14:21
feel that way about you. We have
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to stop being in this mindset
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that we won the lottery,
14:28
that someone found us and
14:30
is attracted to No. The
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reality is many
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people will be attracted to
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us. What we have to do
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is free ourselves up to
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find the people who are attracted
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to us, who are actually
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worthy of what we're
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willing to give Now if I gave you three hundred
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thousand people, let's say two
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hundred thousand of them are avoidance who are
14:52
gonna make your life miserable. That leaves a
14:54
hundred thousand. Of those, there'll be
14:56
seventy thousand that are just wrong for
14:58
you or you're not really attracted to at all.
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That leaves thirty thousand. Let's say twenty
15:02
thousand of them you're kind of attracted
15:04
to, but on the fence about. And ten
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thousand of them you're really
15:08
attracted to and they'd also be great for a
15:10
relationship. That's your poll. Now
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the point is in order
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to meet one of those ten thousand,
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you can't be preoccupied with
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one of the other two hundred and ninety
15:21
thousand. Because those people who are right
15:23
for you cannot find you when you're hung
15:25
up on somebody else. They cannot find
15:27
you when there's no space in your life. They
15:29
cannot find you when you're
15:31
two anxious and torn up
15:33
and in pain over somebody
15:36
who is consistently breaking
15:38
your heart in small ways. They can't
15:40
even make eye contact with you.
15:42
If your head is down in your
15:44
phone texting someone who's a dead
15:46
end, you will find the right
15:48
person sooner if you form the habit of
15:50
saying no to the wrong people
15:52
more quickly. The reason we don't
15:54
say no to the wrong people is because
15:56
there is some part of us that thinks that the
15:58
right people are scarce, not that the
16:00
person we're entertaining could possibly be the
16:02
right person anyway, but we're also
16:04
afraid of time. That we're in a rush, that
16:06
we're running out of time, that we have to make
16:08
something happen now. And if I've got someone
16:10
that I have chemistry with and connection with,
16:12
then we have great conversation, and there's a track I
16:14
should just go for it. I should just try to
16:16
make this work. And so we try to force
16:18
something that is only gonna hurt us. And
16:21
most importantly in some ways, it's
16:23
gonna waste incredible amounts
16:25
of our time. And it's it's
16:27
such an irony to it because time
16:29
is the thing that we're scared of. We're we're
16:32
lonely. We wanna meet someone and we're
16:34
afraid that the whole
16:36
time we're feeling lonely and have that
16:38
ignoring feeling of wanna
16:40
meet someone I've got no one to share my life with.
16:42
We're worried about time running out.
16:44
The great irony is that time
16:46
runs out a hundred times
16:48
faster for people who say yes to the wrong
16:50
people. The thing that we should be
16:52
panicked about is not running out of time
16:54
being single, but running out of
16:56
time saying yes to people who
16:58
are all too willing to waste it.
17:00
Being patient, saying no to the wrong
17:02
people so that you can say yes to the
17:04
right people, that spans your
17:07
time. That gives you time. The
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17:11
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17:13
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17:15
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17:17
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17:19
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17:22
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17:24
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17:26
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17:28
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17:31
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17:33
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17:36
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17:38
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17:40
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