In this episode, I had the absolute pleasure of talking to Ryan McMasters! Aside from being an immensely talented writer and poet, Ryan is one of the kindest people I've ever met, and it was just pure joy to get to sit down with him for this conversation. We talked a little bit about his experience growing up in the Christian church, his years in college, and the experiences that drew him into the poetry community.

Because of time and topic constraints, I had to take out some of the things Ryan and I talked about while I was editing this audio, but we had some really interesting discussions in those parts of our interview, so I'm going to be publishing that portion as a special short episode - or, in Ryan's words, a "conversation lilypad" - at the end of this season. So be sure to subscribe to the podcast and follow it on Instagram so you can keep an eye out for that episode!

You can find Ryan on Instagram here!

@rmcmastewriter

@laughlinesmcgee

And follow the podcast here: @lovemadevisiblepod

Thanks for listening, y'all! See you in the next episode!

Music by RomanBelov

Intro/Outro: "Substance"

Interlude: "Coffee Chill Out"

Recorded at Campesino Coffeehouse, Houston.

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