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I'm Claire Fallon. And

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I'm Emma Gray. And

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this is

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Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

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The Bachelor and other pop culture that

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messages these shows send us about love,

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sex, and dating. Come

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to Love to See It, a podcast about

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making history by making us try to learn

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the names of far too many

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women. Like, have we really

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not done 32 women before? Every

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year it's a newer, bigger number.

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And every year a new torture,

1:10

but also Billie Eilish? Billie freaking

1:12

Eilish? I'm

1:14

honestly not sure if this is

1:17

a boon for The Bachelor or an

1:19

indication of a fall from grace for Billie. I

1:22

think they've been listening to us. We're like,

1:24

you need less stock library music. You need

1:26

more like bops in there. And they're like,

1:28

fine, we're going to go big. We're going

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to go Billie. Joining us to

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break down Joey's season premiere of The

1:34

Bachelor is friend of the pod Jill

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Chin, who you may recognize, of course,

1:39

from Clayton season, Bachelor in Paradise. Jill,

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welcome to the pod. Thank you so much

1:43

for having me. I'm so excited to break

1:45

down the season. I feel like every year

1:47

I'm like, this is it. This is the

1:49

last season. And they draw me in

1:52

again. So here I am. We keep

1:54

calling you. We're like, Jill, please come recap with

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us again. Happy to see you. Twist

1:59

my arm. Look, Moth

2:01

to the Flame. I know. Why do you

2:03

think we've ended up covering this show for

2:05

now like a decade? We're like, we're done.

2:07

This is it. No, we're never done. Before

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we get into today's recap, just

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a quick housekeeping reminder, we have

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bonus podcasts over on our Substack

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Rich Text. And this week,

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we had a really fun

2:22

time chatting about the frankly

2:24

stunning end of the season of

2:26

Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, just

2:30

like knives out level

2:32

of detective work. Okay, on

2:35

that note, let's get

2:37

into Joey's season. It

2:39

opens with a cold open. The

2:41

cold open is back. We were like, maybe

2:43

this is just something they're doing for Golden

2:45

Bachelor. They're leaning all the way. They

2:49

learned that this lends the show a

2:52

feeling of like elevation and

2:54

narrative intention. We're like, it's

2:56

been like 20 years since the start of

2:58

like prestige drama.

3:01

Let's start to finally use some

3:03

of the toolbox of

3:06

that genre in this. We

3:09

see Joey crying quietly on a beach.

3:11

It's clearly finale day. He's waiting on

3:13

like the beach platform. His jaw

3:15

is working. His

3:17

eyes are full of tears. A white SUV

3:20

is driving away. It's

3:22

silent until a quiet song begins to play.

3:24

And yes, it is Billie Eilish's When the

3:27

Party is Over. The camera

3:29

zooms in on the final rose. And

3:32

then it pans to show us the producers and crew

3:34

sort of milling around the set as Joey walks

3:37

away from the proposal platform. He seems trained.

3:39

He seems emotional. The

3:41

words, the bachelor unfurl over

3:43

a lingering shot of the final

3:45

rose. We

3:47

have a clip of a bit of

3:49

what this sounds like. I

4:15

mean, the song

4:18

with Joey's deep sighs and then

4:20

the crash of the waves, it's

4:22

just, it's so good. And then

4:24

all of a sudden, everything

4:27

rewinds, we get little clips of

4:29

the whole season. And oh my

4:31

God, two months earlier, I was

4:33

like, wow, they watched

4:36

the finale of Real Housewives of Salt Lake

4:38

City. And they were like, this is art.

4:41

Yeah. We need to do

4:43

this. There's something going on in the

4:45

whole reality TV landscape. And I do

4:47

think that Bravo is driving it where

4:49

they're like, you have to get into

4:51

flashbacks. We have to get into like

4:54

non chronological storytelling. We have to mind

4:56

that for maximum drama. Jill,

4:58

what did you think of this opening? It's

5:00

such a departure for them. Oh my God.

5:02

Honestly, even just hearing it back, why was

5:05

I tearing up? Why was

5:07

I right there with him? The song definitely,

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the Billie Eilish of

5:11

it all lends itself to like,

5:13

oh my God, this is really

5:15

serious. This is cinematically beautiful. I'm

5:17

hooked. But I was

5:20

honestly emotionally invested in that moment, which

5:22

is very rare. Usually I'm like, ah,

5:24

right. Night one. I was like a

5:27

little, you know, we're working things out.

5:29

But this has got me

5:31

a little excited. I think you're exactly

5:33

right. It's like usually night one is

5:35

kind of boring. We're all half watching

5:37

it. We're like, blah, blah, blah. The

5:39

intro pack. Yep. Okay. This

5:42

guy's looking for love. And these 24 year olds really

5:44

want to get married. Okay. I

5:46

get it. I get it. I

5:48

get it. But no, you're dropped right in. You're like,

5:50

oh shit. I have to pay attention because something

5:53

of a great magnitude is going

5:55

to happen. And I feel

5:57

like they usually tell you a kind of like

5:59

some kind of a. combination of trailers

6:02

of the season and

6:04

the host being like, this is

6:06

the most dramatic journey a bachelor

6:08

has ever had. And

6:10

maybe something will happen at the

6:12

end that we've never seen before. But first,

6:14

and like, this is so much more effective

6:17

at making you feel the stakes. You're like,

6:19

oh, I see where he's going to be

6:21

in two months. And it's, it's

6:23

real. He's really feeling things. I also

6:26

feel like something's going on with like,

6:28

Billie Eilish specifically because her, one of

6:30

her songs is also the theme song

6:33

of the new True Detective season. Obviously

6:35

winning awards for that like emotional

6:38

sequence in the Barbie movie. Everyone

6:40

was like, wait, Billie Eilish

6:42

brings the emotion. She will tell

6:44

our audience exactly how

6:46

to feel. And this is how

6:48

I finally learned what a

6:51

Billie Eilish song was. So yeah, I'm cool

6:53

now. I'm getting into pop culture

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via The Bachelor. Welcome

6:57

Claire. So we're deposited, of course,

6:59

two months earlier at the standard,

7:01

like Perky Bachelor, episode one music is

7:04

playing. Joey is zooming down the road

7:06

on a motorcycle and it's like

7:08

standard, like black bucket motorcycle helmet.

7:11

I did not know he was a motorcyclist.

7:15

Good for him. And he's like, I

7:18

have full belief I'm going to find my wife because

7:20

I was in love when I did this with Charity

7:22

and then we get like a dark vignette filtered flashback

7:24

to Charity dumping him. The

7:27

heartbreak. He moved back to the

7:30

Philadelphia area to be closer to family to

7:32

recover from this. I'm like,

7:34

Joey, I thought you were Hawaiian.

7:36

What's going on? They really

7:38

want us to forget that they tried to

7:40

frame him as Hawaiian. That is so bizarre.

7:42

I actually forgot about that. Yeah, I said

7:45

they went a little hard on the Hawaii

7:47

thing. And then they were like, he's really

7:49

just a guy who's lived in Hawaii for

7:51

like six months to a year. But

7:54

they play into the Hawaiian stuff a

7:56

lot later. Like, yeah, one they have

7:58

with the women. Yeah, they do. But

8:00

it's like the budget maybe didn't

8:02

afford we go to Hawaii and don't

8:05

be rolled the budget afforded. Let's go to Philly,

8:07

right? Yeah They're

8:10

doing Philly and We

8:14

get a little bit of him and Philly with

8:16

his parents and his hot sisters who are there

8:18

to really support him and tell him How cringy

8:20

it is to watch him make out with so

8:22

many women and they're like, please I love his customers

8:24

I Love

8:27

the idea that it's fine to watch their brother make out with

8:29

women as long as he's doing a really good job In

8:32

which case they're cool with it Don't

8:34

embarrass the family. Yeah, they got a

8:37

they want him to represent them Well, we

8:40

get some slow-mo shots of Joey playing

8:42

tennis shirtless as he says

8:44

that he wants a loving long-lasting relationship like

8:46

his grandparents He wants something

8:48

loving fun confident in their own skin.

8:50

He says I'm definitely ready

8:52

to find my wife. I Believe

8:55

him. He's like I just everything I

8:57

do believe him Joey. Absolutely He

9:01

really has just an earnestness about him

9:04

that you buy and I

9:06

wonder if it's just the fact that he's

9:09

So not a former football

9:11

player Yeah, which is just

9:13

the total energy that you

9:15

get from like 99% of bachelors They're

9:19

just like very square jawed and

9:22

very Football-oriented

9:25

Joey's Joey's a fan of the softer sports.

9:27

I I'm

9:30

trying to protect my heart a little bit because

9:32

I feel like it's looking too good and I

9:37

Know eventually he's gonna screw up and we're

9:39

gonna have to deal with that But for

9:41

now, I'm enjoying like the buy-in. I feel

9:43

like I haven't been this bought in not

9:45

even on my own season to be honest Maybe

9:49

ever That's the

9:51

thing. Yeah, it's it's hard to

9:54

remember a time when we felt this

9:56

way at the beginning of a

9:58

season and It's

10:00

like we're enjoying it. Joey arrives, he's

10:02

in a dark teal suit, bold

10:05

choice, love it. The

10:08

driveway is wet as hell, it's shiny,

10:10

it's time to meet those ladies. Jesse

10:13

Palmer greets him. It's weird to me

10:15

to see Jesse Palmer talking to a

10:18

bachelor who doesn't look exactly like Jesse

10:20

Palmer. We've had a bit of a run. Great point.

10:22

Yeah. It's been a couple of years. Yeah,

10:25

I'm like, wow, I really can tell

10:27

the difference between you two. This

10:29

is a new feeling. Yeah, I'm not

10:31

sure how I feel. Joey's

10:34

like, I have those first night jitters, but I've done

10:36

this before. I hope to give the women that calmness

10:38

and confidence when they come out. But

10:40

if they keep practicing, they can smash a serve

10:42

right over the net, you know? It's

10:44

all about practice. He's

10:47

so encouraging. Yeah. Jesse

10:49

says that Joey is making history because there are

10:51

more women than ever. I'm like,

10:54

is that really Joey making

10:56

history? Or is that the

10:59

show forcing Inean

11:01

history upon Joey? Like, why do they

11:03

always have to say you're making, it's

11:06

either most dramatic or you're making history.

11:08

So we're making history in this like menial

11:11

way. I don't really care if you're making

11:13

history, it doesn't make me want to watch

11:15

it any less, you know? Like, it's

11:19

not a selling point either way. It's like,

11:22

move along. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird to

11:24

say. And also, didn't Matt

11:26

James have like, like

11:28

35 women or something? Oh, but they came

11:30

later. So they didn't tell. They

11:32

weren't real. No,

11:36

it's so true. They just are so desperate to

11:38

like get a point on the board that proves

11:40

this is different from other seasons, that they're just

11:43

like adding literally one woman and throwing

11:46

a little party over it. Like no one cares.

11:49

The first limo pulls up and

11:52

out comes Lexi, first out

11:54

of the limo. She's our 30 year

11:56

old digital strategist. She's

11:58

in gold sequence. see a lot

12:00

of sequins this season, a

12:03

lot of metallics. She

12:05

does a very basic entrance. She's like, I'm from

12:08

Toronto, I only came because of him. But we

12:10

get more in her package. We see

12:13

her saying that she

12:15

had full body chills when she found out he was

12:17

the bachelor's and then she says she always wanted to

12:19

be a mother but she suddenly started having these health

12:21

issues and she has an unnamed health condition that means

12:23

she might not be able to have kids. Why

12:26

don't they just say endometriosis?

12:29

Yeah, she's very open about it. She

12:31

posts about it all over her Instagram.

12:33

I mean, I assume maybe there'll be a

12:35

conversation about it later but it's just like

12:38

a weird thing to be like

12:40

these health issues. Amorphous

12:42

health issues. They can be anything.

12:44

Resulting in potentially infertility

12:46

which is like kind of a lot

12:49

of things. Yeah. You

12:51

could have any illness, I don't know. Yeah,

12:54

there are a lot of things that kind of

12:56

affect. It's very weird the way they're dancing around

12:58

it. I was like, I think most women know

13:00

what endometriosis is at this point. Yeah, I couldn't

13:02

tell us. Are they like nervous to talk

13:04

about it? Are they trying to make you

13:06

wonder so that they can save it for

13:09

another conversation? I don't know. I thought it

13:11

was odd. You just can't do that in this

13:13

day and age because I can literally just look at her

13:15

Instagram and I immediately. Yeah, like we knew what

13:17

the health condition was when we did our preview

13:19

episode and had never seen her on our television.

13:22

They do a little wiggle to shake out the nerves together

13:24

and then it's time to meet Rachel who

13:26

is 26, an ICU nurse in

13:28

a gauzy black dress. And

13:32

this is the beginning of something that

13:34

I came to find very amusing about

13:36

Joey's entrance greetings. Is that

13:38

he's always trying to like guess or figure

13:40

out what their entrance is and then like

13:43

preemptively compliment them on what a great job

13:45

they're doing with it. So before

13:47

she even says her name, he's like, you

13:49

have something behind your back for me. And

13:51

she's like, yes, I'm Rachel and

13:53

I do have something for

13:56

you behind my back. You called

13:58

it. I was like, calm

14:00

down, Joey, let her do her

14:02

thing. She tells

14:04

him she's originally from Honolulu and what

14:06

she brought him is a kakauina lei

14:09

to put around his neck and she says hopefully his next

14:11

lei will be one they pick out together on

14:13

her island. Yeah, Rachel seems

14:16

actually Hawaiian as opposed to

14:19

Joey, a Hawaiian tourist. Yes.

14:22

Next out is Maria who is

14:24

wearing a very complicated and unconventional

14:28

daring dress of sort of

14:30

black gauzy fabric that's like draped

14:32

over her breasts and

14:34

then held together with like a beaded strip

14:37

at the waist and another at like

14:39

the hips and there's a lot of

14:41

skin exposed in different places. I loved

14:43

this. I thought it was so different

14:45

than what we normally see in these

14:47

gowns. It was interesting. I was I

14:50

was googling like trying to figure

14:52

out who the designer was of this dress. I'm

14:54

sure someone will drop us a link in our

14:57

DMs but it stood

14:59

out to me. I was like this is some good fashion.

15:02

Also about her entrance, the

15:06

flag. Yes, it was blurred because she

15:08

lifts her hand she waves a blurred

15:11

Canadian flag as the show pipes in O

15:13

Canada. Why is it blurred? Why

15:15

is it blurred? What's going on? Yeah,

15:18

I have many questions like was

15:20

it a branded flag did some

15:22

capacity or are they affected by Canada?

15:24

Canada reach out and say we don't

15:27

want to be represented on your show.

15:29

We're not going to allow you to

15:31

use the Canadian flag. There's

15:36

a really massive representation

15:38

of Canadians in this cast. I

15:41

noticed that usually there's one maybe like

15:43

a joke there's always one maybe two

15:45

there I think there's like five there's

15:47

a lot. I think they're trying to

15:49

replicate success because Canadians do so well

15:51

in this franchise as we noted in

15:53

our cast file episode like Caitlin Bristow,

15:56

Vanessa Grimaldi, Blake

15:58

Moynes. her.

16:00

Katie Bigger? Katie

16:02

Bigger. A lot of women come from

16:05

Canada. They're like, there's something in the water up

16:07

there. They're all so ready to settle down with

16:09

someone they met on a TV show. We've got

16:11

to get more Canadians on here. And

16:14

Maria is our first, no,

16:17

she's actually, she's our second Canadian representation

16:19

out of the first three women.

16:22

We're already two Canadians. So

16:25

he keeps trying to

16:27

like talk to her already while she's doing

16:30

her little bit. He's like, let's get to

16:32

it. Let's talk. And then we see her

16:34

intro package. She's showing us around Kleinberg, Ontario.

16:37

I thought this intro packet was also interesting

16:40

because it doesn't really feel like a bachelor

16:42

intro package to me. No, no,

16:46

it feels like she's doing like

16:48

a TikTok hottie, like

16:51

aesthetic video or something. And

16:54

it was like the denim on

16:56

denim posing at the water. It

17:00

was also like, it was too

17:02

well shot. It wasn't iPhone

17:04

footage. It was like 4k

17:07

with that gimbal. I

17:09

was like, did they sign a crew? I

17:11

feel like the iPhones can do that now.

17:13

She's probably doing like cinematic mode or

17:15

something like, yeah, like everyone's a

17:18

professional influencer now that we used

17:20

to get like weird grainy photos,

17:22

like footage of a girl walking on

17:24

the train tracks, being like, I

17:26

just want to find my husband. And now

17:28

they're like four different outfit

17:31

changes shot beautifully and

17:33

artistically. Yeah. No,

17:35

I know. She's a film buff. I

17:37

mean, she's like zamping and her tiny

17:39

strappy baby doll dress. She's pouting as

17:41

she tugs the flower behind her ear.

17:44

I was like, I feel like I'm on

17:46

TikTok right now and

17:49

not watching The Bachelor on ABC.

17:51

And then she, we see her

17:53

like talking with her dad who

17:55

was also kind of a curve

17:57

ball. He's like, I literally Google that was

17:59

like, Like is he a rock

18:02

musician that I don't know about? Does

18:05

he, like, I, he was smoking

18:07

a cigar. Just like, chilling

18:10

smoking a cigar. Like, he

18:12

may have had a button or two open on his

18:14

shirt. Like, he was cool. All

18:17

black, so many things. Like

18:19

bracelets and a cigar.

18:21

I was like, this is giving like,

18:23

washed up rockstar to me.

18:27

I was like convinced he was famous and

18:29

then I could not find any information. Same,

18:32

because I did find a photo of

18:34

him in Vin Diesel and I was

18:36

like, oh, maybe he's famous. But then

18:38

I realized, no, it's that Maria was

18:41

actually had a like, a very small bit role

18:43

in 2005 in

18:46

the Vin Diesel film, The Pacifier. She was

18:48

like a little kid in it. And

18:50

so the photos must have been from

18:53

like her parents being with her on set. But

18:56

they're all over her Instagram of like her dad and

18:58

Vin Diesel. I'm like,

19:00

I need more on this family. I need a hometown. Yeah,

19:03

I'm very, I'm intrigued for sure. Much

19:05

to unpack. She says that she was very

19:07

affected by her parents' split but now she

19:10

is ready for a serious committed relationship. She

19:13

is wearing a flower behind her left ear

19:16

and she tells him it's because she's all in.

19:18

This is of course a callback to what

19:20

Joey did with Charity. When he met her, he

19:22

put a plumeria flower behind her ear to

19:25

sort of symbolize that she was beginning this

19:27

journey of openness. So it's

19:30

a little Hawaiian flashback. Next,

19:33

Erica comes out. She is in a

19:35

green satin dress and she's dancing to

19:37

Latin music and invites him to like

19:39

dance with her. They dance a few

19:41

steps. And

19:43

we get her intro package. She says her

19:45

mom is Dominican. Her dad is Cuban. And

19:47

she grew up in this home, which was

19:49

full of love and dancing. And she's ready

19:51

to teach Joey to dance the same way.

19:54

Joey seems ready. He's like, I gotta take

19:56

lessons. I gotta get on your level. He's

19:59

into it. This is a man who

20:01

believes in lessons. He's like, yeah, sure.

20:04

I support adults taking lessons and activities.

20:08

He's read 10,000 hours or whatever.

20:10

He's like, I believe. Next,

20:14

we have Autumn, who has a

20:16

very literal entrance. She's

20:18

in red sequence. As she exits, she throws

20:20

two handfuls of fake Autumn leaves in the

20:22

air as she walks toward him. And

20:25

Joey says, there's the entrance. You

20:27

nailed it, girl. He's constantly just

20:30

like, you did great. That was great. You did an

20:32

entrance. I see you. And

20:35

she says that a favorite season says a

20:37

lot about a person. He says his is

20:40

spring or summer. Rough,

20:44

awkward. I mean, most

20:46

people's favorite season is Autumn, I feel like.

20:48

So she had to say that the odds

20:50

were good. It's a safe

20:52

bet. But also, did he not

20:54

know that those were leaves? And

20:56

potentially, like, what he did not

20:58

take? Yeah,

21:01

that was pretty awkward. I did feel bad. But

21:04

he's honest. Yeah. Yeah,

21:06

he's telling the truth. I do feel like he just wasn't

21:08

putting the pieces together there. Like, he

21:10

was like, she's throwing Autumn leaves. Now she's

21:13

asking me what my favorite season is. What

21:15

is my favorite season? Spring, probably. Like, he's

21:17

not. And she

21:19

says, well, I'm disappointed. But I hope

21:21

that you'll fall to love Autumn. And

21:25

she introduces herself. Hi, I'm Autumn.

21:29

At this point, he has finally puzzled

21:31

these things together. So

21:33

we have our

21:35

first group of women. And we're going to sit with those

21:38

for a minute. We're going to take a quick break. And

21:40

we'll be right back to meet, I don't know,

21:42

like 28 more ladies. I'm

21:45

losing track already. Can

21:47

you keep up, my

21:49

life? And

21:56

we are back. And it's time

21:58

to meet Kelsey A. Our

22:00

New Orleans project manager who

22:03

comes out in a lime

22:05

green rhinestone maxi dress and

22:07

some like chunky very 90s

22:09

core Shoes

22:12

like platform. Those are looking like a

22:14

jellies. Yeah, they're very back and Once

22:18

again, Joey calls out that she is hiding something

22:21

behind her back before she has a tear. I

22:24

wrote Joey I see and I get it. I

22:26

get what you're doing and great job. Keep going

22:30

She whips out a voodoo doll. She's like I brought something

22:32

to make sure that you fall in love with me and

22:36

She gets a little intro package to talk about how

22:38

New Orleans is just full of bad boys And

22:41

she wants a nice boy not like the boy

22:43

she made to New Orleans and She

22:46

also reveals that she looks up to her

22:48

parents love story, but her mom died a

22:50

few years ago And now she wants her

22:52

own family I

22:59

Feel that a little My

23:04

question is how is this allowed like

23:06

in an enthusiastic consent paradigm? Like

23:09

can you kiss a voodoo doll of

23:12

someone else without their consent in advance?

23:14

I mean Seems

23:17

like a borderline case to me. I mean,

23:19

honestly, this is a good point Like

23:22

are you giving enough respect

23:24

to that voodoo doll? Yeah,

23:26

and it's personhood and its

23:28

boundaries Yeah, and to

23:30

the person who is going to be affected by

23:32

what? Right about all of it all well

23:34

exactly It's a whole

23:36

package deal. It's ripple effect. Yeah,

23:38

this is opening a whole can of worms I don't know

23:40

if Kelsey and Joey are ready for this, but he does

23:43

get to keep the doll Next

23:46

is Chrisa in a sparkly navy

23:48

gown and He

23:50

compliments her dress like it's so elegant

23:52

the train too. She's like stop it

23:55

Joey Immediately

23:57

I'm like this is a man who grew up

24:00

with sisters. This is a man who has

24:02

seen his share of women's formal wear

24:04

and I commend him for that. Yeah,

24:07

everybody who walks out of the limo, he's like,

24:10

they walk out, you look great. You look

24:12

beautiful. Like the compliments are flowing and it's

24:14

really nice. But I feel like when you're

24:16

walking out, you're like, you have

24:18

a script and you're like, I can't mess up.

24:20

Like, he's throwing me off. Yeah, I

24:22

love your person. Let me get this out. Yeah.

24:25

Let me do it. But her energy

24:27

was so great. Yeah, I loved her.

24:29

I really felt like, to me, she

24:31

immediately read as an oldest sister.

24:33

And he has like,

24:35

I know he's the middle brother, but he

24:37

has baby brother energy to me. And

24:40

so there was like such a funny,

24:42

like familial chemistry between them. When

24:44

I saw them together, like she

24:46

was just like immediately like bringing

24:49

that big sister energy and he was

24:51

just like, Oh, yeah, amazing. You're great.

24:53

You're so cool. Like I really look

24:55

up to you sort of like style

24:57

energy. And she tells him that it's

24:59

her yes year. So her answer, if

25:01

he had a question for later, would

25:03

be hell yes. Then

25:06

we get some quick exits Chandler doesn't all

25:08

be there for you, Joe. Because of course

25:10

they are Chandler and Joey. Marlena

25:13

says she wouldn't be there for

25:15

anyone else. Star

25:18

has him help her open a

25:20

box with it looks like sort

25:22

of toy butterflies inside that sort

25:25

of flutter to the ground.

25:27

And he's he's so consistent.

25:29

He's like, I'll remember that the

25:32

butterflies really beautiful. Seriously. Like, did

25:37

you also notice how he keeps trying to

25:39

repeat all of their names back to them.

25:41

So then he'll remember them late. I was

25:43

like, this is a pro. You're a good

25:45

job. And like he's so desperate to

25:48

like reassure all of them. Like, you might think

25:50

that that bit fell flat, but it didn't.

25:52

I thought it was amazing. Like you did

25:54

it. You nailed it. Like that was the

25:56

best performance you could. It's adorable. Oh, I

26:00

have to say, I, up until

26:02

this point, I was kind of

26:04

underwhelmed with the limo entrances. Like,

26:07

normally we get so much crane

26:09

and so much, like, you

26:11

know, there's trucks and there's, you

26:13

know, it seems bigger, big

26:16

budget. This was giving everyone kind

26:18

of walked up and said something, which was like

26:20

cute, and we had a little gimmick, but I

26:22

was kind of missing some of the

26:24

crane. Yeah, it seems like they did that. They

26:26

were like, they were like, they were like, they

26:28

were like, they were like, they up to the

26:30

end. Yeah, they didn't do like a highs and

26:32

lows of of stunts in this way. I

26:35

also, like, at this point wasn't expecting

26:37

as many stunts because I feel like

26:39

charity season was very light on stunts

26:42

in the exits. I remember being like, why

26:44

are there not more stunts? Yeah.

26:47

And I mean, they all blur together at this

26:49

point, but I'm pretty sure that was charity season. Yeah,

26:51

I was getting this look like, right. But

26:55

I remember thinking that they had like given up

26:57

on stunts as a big part of night one

26:59

and they're back. It just takes a while for

27:01

that to get going. Yeah,

27:05

they're warming us up. Yeah, or they dive

27:07

right in. And really, I think kind of

27:10

the turning point is the

27:12

yeah, we get just like a

27:15

few quick ones. And I think

27:17

the cringiest quick one that we see is

27:19

Sam saying that she saw how excited charity

27:21

got after the fantasy sweep. So she knows

27:23

he's the whole package. And

27:26

Joey looks like very

27:28

uncomfortable. You look so mortified.

27:30

Yeah. What

27:33

I think he was like, oh, thank you. Yeah,

27:35

like what I say, like, I just feel like

27:38

he really wasn't the audience for the overly

27:40

sexual jokes. I mean, most people are not,

27:42

but like, I really don't think Joey was.

27:45

I mean, that's not even like a sexual joke

27:47

so much as it's I mean, it's a joke,

27:50

but it's also just like a commentary

27:52

on what she assumes his sexual

27:54

performance to be, which and

27:57

also his sexual history with a particular

27:59

person. He's now like, work to get over

28:01

it. It's just like, I don't know.

28:03

He's like engaged to a friend. Yeah, it's

28:05

a little awkward. But

28:08

then we do get to the sisters and

28:10

we've been eagerly awaiting the sisters because how

28:12

are they gonna play this? And

28:15

they do not have them come out together.

28:18

Allison comes out first and

28:20

says that she comes from a family where she's used

28:22

to doing a lot of sharing. And

28:24

so she's ready to do some sharing as part

28:26

of this season. He's like,

28:28

oh, do you have a big family? And she says,

28:31

yes, she has three siblings. I was like, is that

28:33

such a big family? That still seems kind of in

28:35

the realm of normal to me. Yeah,

28:37

I was like, that seems medium. On

28:39

the higher end of average, I guess,

28:42

but like, it's not what I would

28:44

be like, wow, huge family. No,

28:47

it was a little awkward when she was

28:49

like, yeah, just three other people besides me. There's

28:53

a woman on the season with eight

28:55

siblings. So, whoa. So,

28:59

four, Allison, please. She

29:02

is the youngest. She has a sister and two brothers,

29:04

she tells him. And then we get a

29:06

bit of her intro package. So

29:09

my older sister signed us up and we just thought

29:12

this would be a really good experience to try out

29:14

together. It's definitely gonna be weird,

29:16

I'm not gonna lie. Nobody expects to date the

29:18

same guy as their sister all at once and

29:20

for the whole world to see. It's so nice

29:22

to meet you. I'm

29:25

gonna check more inside. I think it's

29:27

the first night, we're not gonna tell people Lauren

29:29

and I are sisters, especially Joey, I would kind

29:31

of like him to not know from the beginning

29:34

and make his own kind of

29:36

opinions of us as individuals. That

29:38

lasts for like three hours. Yeah.

29:41

Oh, spoiler alert. I was like, I expected

29:43

to go on like throughout the season. Yeah,

29:46

they talked to Big Game. They were like, we're

29:48

not gonna tell anyone. And then they just had

29:51

a lot of fun pretending not to know each

29:53

other for like an hour. And then they're like,

29:55

all right guys, you got us. We're

29:57

related. And everyone's like, we didn't.

29:59

We were. not paying attention to you were not thinking

30:01

about you. I love the way that they

30:04

that they did this intro package

30:06

with the romantic music suddenly being

30:09

like, yeah, this is where I just I'm

30:12

like, oh, the power of music because you

30:14

don't have to make that into a funny

30:16

thing. They have had siblings on the show

30:18

twins many times without

30:20

acting like it's so weird for them

30:23

to date the same person. And suddenly

30:25

now with these two girls, they're like,

30:28

isn't it so bizarre that they would go

30:30

on this show together as

30:33

sisters? I'm like, I don't know, guys, you

30:35

have a pair like most seasons at this

30:37

point. But

30:39

they want it to be like a clown

30:41

thing this time that they're sisters. They often

30:43

do a clown thing with twins to,

30:46

to be fair, but

30:48

it plays differently because they're like

30:50

introduced separately and not as a package

30:54

deal. Yeah,

30:57

yeah. I thought that that's why

30:59

I thought they were going to play on it

31:01

more. Yeah. You know, it

31:03

seems really intentional to keep them apart. But

31:06

I don't know. I mean, everyone needs a

31:08

little night one. Maybe they during night one,

31:10

they're like, nothing's really happening. We need. Yeah,

31:12

we need something exciting. Yeah. Why don't you

31:14

tell? You know, I

31:17

mean, I will say we get a totally

31:20

different kind of drama and storyline out of

31:22

having sisters versus any of the twins we've

31:24

ever had for Bachelor and Bachelor, which I

31:26

thought was interesting. But Lauren is

31:28

out next. And in

31:30

her in the moment, she's like, if Allison kisses

31:32

Joey, I need to know right away so I

31:34

can go do it immediately. Because I should have

31:36

done it first as the older sister. That

31:39

is the moment that I was like,

31:41

Allison will definitely be kissing Joey for

31:43

100%. Like you just gave producers

31:46

all the ammunition that they needed to

31:48

make that happen. Also, I was just I

31:50

was like, Oh, we said or I said

31:52

that it would be problematic for Joey to

31:54

prefer the younger sister. And it turns out

31:56

that Lauren has the exact same attitude, but

31:58

it's from more of like a Jane

32:00

Austen viewpoint of like the younger

32:03

sister mustn't be out in society

32:05

while the older sister is yet unwed. Yeah.

32:10

She says, like, biologically she needs

32:12

to be out. I mean,

32:14

that extra two years is a killer when

32:16

your biological time clock is ticking. So

32:20

she challenges Joey to beat her at shot-gunning

32:22

a beer. And Joey immediately lowers those expectations.

32:24

He's like, you're definitely going to beat me

32:26

at this. And she does. I don't even

32:28

know how it's possible to drink a beer

32:30

as quickly as she drinks that beer. She's

32:33

a professional. It

32:36

was excellent. I loved watching every second of

32:38

it. This was like the part where I

32:40

liked Lauren the most. When she first came

32:42

in, I was like, this is fun. This

32:44

is weird. She's like talking shit. She's confident.

32:46

She's sarcastic. Joey loses

32:48

dramatically. He burps. They both

32:50

laugh. I was like, what

32:53

a relatable guy. And in

32:55

her, in the moment, Lauren is like, I knew I

32:57

was going to win. And I did. It was easy.

33:00

My reign continue. I

33:03

love that. I love that, too.

33:05

Because she was like, what really

33:07

matters here is my cred as

33:09

the reigning beer-shot-gunning queen. It's

33:12

really less about impressing Joey.

33:16

And that begins to pall a

33:18

little bit, because it seems like that is universally

33:20

her attitude towards being on the show, which is, this

33:23

is about me winning. It is not

33:25

about Joey. It is just about whether

33:27

I'm beating other people. She

33:30

and Allison and Sy pretend to introduce themselves to

33:32

each other as if everyone is watching them closely,

33:34

which they are not. It's kind of good, though.

33:38

They're having fun. They're enjoying

33:40

it. It's for them. They're doing their

33:42

own thing. They're flexing their

33:44

skills. Yeah. One of them is like,

33:46

I think we could really be best friends. Yeah,

33:48

really best friends. Be it for us. So

33:53

funny. Jesse then checks in to see what

33:55

Joey thinks of the first half of the women

33:57

and reminds them that Leia will have a very

33:59

special car. from after the final rose that

34:01

will change everything. She is

34:04

the one woman that he met on

34:06

that after the final rose special and she

34:08

was told that this card would like reveal

34:10

something to them on the night of the

34:13

premiere that would shake

34:16

up the journey. So they've been

34:18

waiting a while to a few days at

34:20

least to have this information that they're all

34:22

on tender hooks. Then

34:25

we see Caitlin, the

34:27

radiochemist from Santa Fe who exits in

34:29

and I love her. Oh my god,

34:31

it's like a shocking pink beaded chiffon

34:33

jumpsuit. Yeah, it's like a two

34:36

piece. I think there might be

34:38

like a pant element situation,

34:41

right? It's a pants and then some sort of

34:43

like over, over

34:46

shirt, like tunic that's kind of drapey

34:48

or like a cape. Maybe

34:50

it's a jumpsuit with a cape. I couldn't exactly

34:52

tell. There's a lot of extra flowy

34:54

bits. Really beautiful and

34:57

just so different than what we

34:59

usually see on the show. It's so

35:01

not a pageant dress and I loved

35:03

it for that. I feel

35:05

like even five, four or five years

35:08

ago, if a woman wore like a

35:10

jumpsuit or a really unusual fashiony dress,

35:12

she would almost immediately get cut because

35:15

of how like bachelor men, especially

35:18

the kind of men who are the bachelor tend to view

35:20

daring fashion, which is just like, that's not sexy

35:22

enough, I guess. And I love

35:25

that there was a lot more adventurousness on this

35:27

episode and it did not seem to phase Joey.

35:29

Like I don't think that it played into him.

35:32

He's an evolved man. Yeah. He's like, I love

35:34

how you're exploring your artistic side through fashion.

35:36

That's so sexy to me. We

35:39

also learned that Caitlin is a

35:42

radiochemist and she

35:44

is carrying a tray with a chemistry

35:46

set on it. And she's like, we have to do

35:48

an experiment to see if we have chemistry. Joey

35:51

does have to put both his goggles on

35:53

and hers because she needs two hands to

35:55

hold the tray. And then they do a

35:57

little experiment. We're going to do a little experiment.

36:00

he like pours the

36:02

vinegar into the baking

36:04

soda volcano. It explodes everywhere.

36:06

I thought it

36:10

was a really delightful entrance. Oh, the

36:12

only the problem with it is that then what

36:14

do you say? She's like, Well, I guess we

36:16

have chemistry. Anyway,

36:18

see you later. Yeah, it

36:21

was a little bit did read a little awkward

36:23

to me, but I thought the sentiment was really

36:25

cute. Yeah, it was really different. It was

36:27

like there was little cute moments throughout. I

36:29

actually thought the best part was when he had to

36:31

put on her goggles and he was like, I have to

36:33

make sure I don't mess up your hair too much. And

36:35

I'm like, that's all my God, we definitely

36:37

have chemistry boyfriend material. So

36:39

cute. So next Kelsey T

36:44

comes out in a body con red

36:46

dress. She's stunning inside.

36:49

Meanwhile, the women are whispering

36:52

wondering how many girls will show up. I

36:55

believe we have a clip. How

36:58

many more girlies you think I need to show up? Probably

37:00

20 to 30. I think 25 to 30. Oh,

37:02

that's so many girls. I was

37:04

like, girlies discourse has read. Oh,

37:06

my God. We've been waiting. It

37:08

happened. The girlies have arrived. There

37:10

are no girls here. Only girlies.

37:13

This is Gen Z entering like

37:15

aging into the back. Yes. Yes.

37:17

There's a lot of women who are

37:19

on the cusp. Now it's like a

37:21

whole mix. But that Gen Z energy

37:23

we feel it we see the permeating.

37:26

I mean, there are some 23 year olds. I

37:28

feel like they are. No, they're

37:30

definitely like a

37:32

mix. Yeah. It's 9 11 babies.

37:34

Oh, my God. It's crazy. It

37:37

happened so quickly one day you're on Janu and then

37:41

suddenly you're the Haggard crone in

37:43

the corner looking at all those

37:45

children. Yeah.

37:48

And all the years that we spent being like

37:50

they're not girls. They're women, the women of the

37:52

bachelor and now Gen Z is like we're girlies

37:54

actually. A go part then screeches up to the.

38:00

driveway and does a donut.

38:02

And Joey's like, nice, a donut. Nice.

38:04

You did great. Coach

38:09

energy. It's truly

38:11

like, it's, it's so important to distinguish. Like

38:13

he's not like a high school football coach.

38:15

He's not like a college basketball coach or

38:18

soccer coach. He is like the person who

38:20

is teaching young kids or retired seniors how

38:22

to volley up the net. Like, yeah, he's

38:24

like, you did amazing. Let's try it a

38:26

few more times. No, don't beat yourself up.

38:28

You're doing amazing. Like, this is only your

38:30

second day of tennis lessons. Why don't you

38:33

come back for another session after your dolphin

38:35

swim tomorrow? Like, that is like,

38:37

that is the kind of coach he is. That

38:40

is what they need to have for like every season of

38:42

The Bachelor. Anyway,

38:45

so this is Jen. Jen is in pink

38:47

glitter. And she says she had to race

38:49

over so quick when she found out that

38:52

he's The Bachelor. And then

38:55

she's like, I don't think anyone can top a go

38:57

kart. I'm like, really? You don't think anyone can top

38:59

a go kart? You're like, Jen,

39:01

that's the perfect invitation for

39:03

everyone following you to top a

39:05

go kart. And on that note, we're gonna think

39:07

about that for a few minutes while we take

39:09

a quick break. And when we get back the

39:12

rest of Joey Blimford. Can you

39:14

dream about how I like

39:16

to love you? And

39:22

we are back. And of course, a

39:25

boat pulls up carried by

39:27

a trailer immediately after the

39:29

go kart. They always do that, don't

39:31

they? And it's Jess. Jessica,

39:34

Jess, Jess, Jessica, who goes by

39:37

Jess in a glittery jumpsuit, who

39:39

says I heard you were looking

39:41

for a new relationship. And

39:44

Joey's like, nice, I got it.

39:46

Nice one. And

39:50

then we get a glimpse of Lauren

39:52

who is very quickly becoming like light

39:54

night one villain, because they

39:56

got her to say a bunch of mean things about other

39:58

women's entrances. in her

40:00

ITM. She's like, that boat is corny, so I

40:03

would have felt like a dumbass if I came

40:05

in with that. Okay,

40:08

Lauren, thanks for your input.

40:12

We then get a bunch of fairly

40:14

quick entrances. Laney

40:16

comes out with Cheese Whiz and asks

40:19

Joey to come on a journey with

40:22

her. Whoo! That was

40:24

a little tough. Yeah,

40:27

it was rough. I see

40:29

why you just showed

40:31

20 seconds of that, or 10 seconds of that, and

40:33

then we're right on to Edwina. I

40:36

feel like producers were digging deep

40:38

into their brainstorm session, scribbles, ideas,

40:40

forgetts. It

40:44

was their D-list idea. It was the D-list.

40:46

Yeah, they were like, Laney's not going to

40:49

out. I'm getting there.

40:51

Take this urn. What am I

40:53

going to do? Okay,

40:55

that made an impression. The Cheese Whiz,

40:57

I forgot it. I

40:59

would actually go urn over Cheese Whiz. I would

41:01

say. They

41:05

looked at you and they were like, she's not going to go for the Cheese

41:07

Whiz. We're going to save that for a couple of seasons. Edwina

41:11

brought a dish for him to try, which she

41:13

calls a taste of home. Samantha

41:16

throws some raw pizza dough at him

41:18

and says, now she hopes he knows,

41:21

quote, I'm the one that you need.

41:24

There's a whole subset of the

41:26

entrances tonight that are just taking

41:29

the opportunity to use the kind of pickup

41:31

lines that in real life you'd have to

41:34

wait for a very specific moment to use.

41:36

They're just like, what if I introduce a

41:38

chip or some dough or Cheese Whiz, and then

41:40

I get to make this very punny pickup line

41:42

that in real life you would have to only

41:45

use if you happen to be making

41:48

pizza together. Yeah,

41:52

but it does so many stretches. Yeah,

41:55

I mean, it doesn't feel authentic because

41:57

they just introduced the prop and to make that

41:59

pickup line. one. But

42:01

yes, then we have Taylor, which

42:03

is maybe the worst one. I

42:06

was horrified by this intro.

42:08

She froze like a giant

42:11

heap of what just appears to

42:13

be satin fabric. And

42:15

then, as Joey

42:17

slowly tries to stretch

42:20

his wingspan in order to figure out what

42:23

the thing is, we see that it is a

42:25

giant bra

42:27

that like why she exists. Let's

42:29

try bra for the Statue of

42:32

Liberty. I felt

42:34

so bad because he said he's like, is

42:36

this wedding related? Like he thought it was

42:38

like a lacy wedding dress. No, Joey. He

42:42

didn't he didn't, frankly, have the distance

42:45

from it to properly reveal

42:47

what it was. Like, it was

42:49

too much fabric to see. From

42:51

his vantage point. And she's like, No,

42:53

it's a bra because I'm here for

42:56

the massive support. I'm like,

42:58

what? What dog? Massive support?

43:01

Is that is that the thing? I'm

43:03

like a concept. Like, you're

43:06

here to support him. This

43:08

failed on so many. It was so

43:10

many levels because the massive

43:12

support is like not a thing that features

43:15

on the show, or that

43:17

I've ever even really heard use as if it's

43:19

like a catchphrase of some kind. It

43:22

would have worked better almost if she just threw like a

43:24

bunch of regular bras and was like, I'm

43:26

here to support you. Yeah, yeah,

43:29

they went in a slightly different

43:31

direction. But I feel like, you

43:33

know, this is really a good metaphor

43:37

for falling in love. Because sometimes, you know,

43:39

when you're too close, you don't have the perspective

43:42

to see that what looks like the perfect

43:44

relationship for you is actually

43:46

just a giant brassiere,

43:48

you know, and maybe that's a

43:50

lesson that Joey can take with him on this journey. Marlena

43:54

then says that she thinks some of

43:56

the stunts were a turnoff and kind

43:58

of raunchy and strange. Thanks,

44:01

Marlena. I'm sure you did think some of them

44:03

were too raunchy. And

44:06

Marlena is our resident Trump staffer

44:08

for anyone who's forgotten. Oh

44:11

my gosh, I did forget that.

44:15

Okay, so we're all over Fox

44:17

News condemning the raunchiness of The

44:20

Bachelor. The editing

44:22

then implies that

44:25

the entrances she's referring to are Kira, who

44:28

asks if he wants to hear something crazy,

44:30

and then she just literally screams. That

44:33

was rough. Yeah,

44:37

it makes an impression, but maybe a negative one.

44:41

Zoe, the artist, who has a tray

44:43

of partial bananas and asks

44:45

him which one he resonates with.

44:48

I did not like that. I didn't like

44:50

it either. And then, bless him, he goes

44:53

for the average one because he's trying to

44:55

be either humble or I don't know. Yeah,

44:57

he's like, this is really weird, so how

44:59

do I do the least weird thing in

45:02

this situation? And he tries to make a

45:04

joke. Imagine

45:06

if a man on

45:08

this show came up to a woman with a

45:12

bunch of

45:14

circular spherical fruits and was

45:16

like, which one?

45:19

Which one resembles your vagina?

45:23

Well, that would be cut open fruits, I swear. Yes,

45:27

well, that's what I'm imagining. I'm

45:31

envisioning a vulva test. Which

45:35

one would you say resembles your

45:38

lady parents? I just am trying to get sort

45:40

of a vibe for what's going on down there.

45:43

I mean, I get that she's trying to

45:45

be raunchy and

45:47

fun and take a risk, but

45:49

it's just so inappropriate to ask

45:51

someone what shape

45:53

their genitals are on national TV. What

45:56

is the raunchiness works when it's something

45:58

like what Caitlin Bristow did? which is

46:00

like make a joke that

46:02

the person doesn't have to be involved

46:04

in, right? Like, yeah, it's a

46:06

joke about the fact that he's a farmer,

46:09

so she'll let him plow the fuck out of

46:11

her field, right? Like, that's a joke that reflects

46:13

on her. Yeah, just is

46:15

like, oh, wow, that was a lot. This

46:19

is like, please tell me

46:21

what your dick looks like. Just

46:23

yeah, it's not a joke. No,

46:25

and there's like, not I'm not going

46:28

to say consequences to the wrong answer,

46:30

but there are there is an inherent

46:32

reaction to the wrong

46:35

answer. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

46:37

And he's yeah, he's like, I'm

46:39

not going to go crazy here.

46:41

Maybe just this one. And he

46:43

picked like the middle and I'm

46:45

like, but what, you know, it's

46:47

a terrible position to be in. Like,

46:50

he's just trying to not make an impression because

46:52

he doesn't want people talking about what size they

46:54

think his penis is right now. So, and fair

46:57

enough. Yeah. Now

47:00

that we've talked about it a whole bunch,

47:02

let's talk about Kayla. Kayla makes some like

47:05

orgasmic noises in the limo, then she exits

47:07

and says that she was working on her

47:09

tennis grunts. This

47:12

then leads Joey to reveal and his

47:14

in the moment, his grunts are

47:16

a little different. I think we have a clip.

47:19

This woman walks out. She's kind of grunting.

47:21

Hers is kind of better than mine. Mine's

47:23

more like a very low. Why

47:29

do I laugh every time at that? Because

47:32

that's a very specific noise.

47:35

That's a very specific noise. It is. Also, this was

47:37

a great deflection on his part where he's like, she

47:39

did great. You know, hers are better than

47:42

mine. Yeah. Softening of

47:44

something that was meant to be very

47:46

like overtly sexual and it really diffuses

47:48

it. Good job, Joey.

47:50

This reminded me, I mean, the whole discourse

47:53

around women grunting when playing tennis

47:55

was like, it's so inappropriate because

47:57

they sound so like sexual and

47:59

aggressive. And there was like a

48:01

debate about that for like a long

48:03

time. And now

48:05

it's just something that we do Bachelor

48:08

Limo exits with, and we're all

48:10

fine with it. And

48:13

we get progress. Yeah, exactly.

48:15

We're sex positive now. Then

48:18

we get some more tennis themed exits. Evelyn

48:21

comes in an umpire's chair, which Joey mits

48:23

he thought was a lifeguard chair. And

48:26

I'm like, I guess he's not really playing

48:28

in Wimbledon too often. He's

48:33

probably seeing more lifeguard chairs in his day to

48:35

day life than umpire's chairs.

48:39

And she says they are game set

48:41

match. Kinda

48:43

cute. Yeah. Lauren

48:46

is still getting that mean girl at

48:49

it. She's now making net rude

48:51

comments in her in the moment about how the umpire's

48:53

chair is outdated as an

48:56

entrance gag, which I don't even know what that means.

48:58

I don't know. Are they unfashionable now? Like,

49:01

why? Umpire's

49:03

chairs. That's so 2012. We

49:08

then meet our Rhode Island

49:10

girly of the season, Sydney.

49:13

She's the one that owns the vintage

49:15

store, right? She had really good style

49:17

on Instagram. And she's like, Joey,

49:19

the tennis hall of fame is in fact

49:21

in Rhode Island. He seems unfazed

49:24

by this information. I'm not going to lie.

49:26

He's like, as you know, the tennis hall of fame. And he's

49:28

like, oh, yes. Yeah.

49:30

I'm constantly at or thinking

49:33

about the tennis hall of fame as

49:35

a teaching tennis professional. Meanwhile,

49:38

inside, the women are all trying to just

49:41

find someone who plays tennis. I

49:43

believe we have a clip. We

49:45

play tennis here. I have a class. I said

49:47

tennis lessons once. Looks

49:53

like you dropped something. I have a tennis court

49:55

across from my apartment at home. But do we

49:57

play tennis? I watch it. I

50:01

love they're like I've seen a tennis

50:03

court. I've seen it.

50:05

There's one in the general vicinity.

50:07

Yeah. In at least 15 miles

50:10

of where I live. I can see a tennis court

50:12

from my home. So I

50:15

have a lot of expertise. Yeah.

50:17

Mm hmm. Yeah. But

50:19

we can't find anyone who like plays tennis, which

50:22

I think is fine because Joey is he's

50:25

a teacher. Does he want someone who's already

50:27

good at tennis? Like how would he spend

50:29

his time for the rest of his life? Also,

50:32

I don't know if I want my partner

50:34

to like I'm not looking for other architectural

50:36

historians, you know, you got to change it

50:39

up. It's not a requirement,

50:41

but it is the only maybe factoid that

50:43

they know about Joey that they can really

50:45

kind of cling on to. Yeah.

50:48

Yeah. I just think this is

50:50

a great opportunity to introduce a new woman to

50:52

the game of tennis because he's not just an

50:54

expert at playing it, but also at teaching it.

50:57

And they should all, you know, embrace that. They're

50:59

like, I'm here to learn from you. Medina

51:02

is preceded by a torrent of

51:04

tennis balls, which Joey then proceeds

51:06

to juggle while waiting for

51:08

the next entrance, which is a vintage

51:11

red flatbed truck with a Christmas tree

51:13

in the back because of course, it's

51:15

a so good. She

51:18

is in pink sequins. She looks gorgeous. We

51:20

actually barely see her talk to Joey at

51:22

this point, but we got her intro

51:25

package. Also just want to

51:27

note that she gets the like full

51:29

on fairy tale wifey music. Oh,

51:31

yeah. Yeah. She rolls up

51:34

like she's one to watch. She's getting a very, very

51:36

good at it. She

51:38

talks about growing up on a Christmas tree farm and

51:40

then beginning to lose her hearing at age 17. The

51:44

show like immediately switches from sparkly music to

51:47

like sad piano music and cuts to a

51:49

shot of her looking pensive and walking when

51:52

she reveals this. And so that's

51:54

the bachelor's favorite way to reveal

51:57

any emotions. They're like walk

51:59

along the shore. Yeah, they're out into

52:01

the distance. They

52:04

don't have a light touch with these things. No,

52:06

no. And she says that last

52:08

year she had a cochlear implant and it changed

52:10

her life to be able to hear everyday sounds

52:12

again, but she hasn't dated since getting her implant.

52:16

I was also sort of intrigued by what they did

52:18

with her coming into the house because

52:20

I don't think we see this very often. She

52:23

gets her like almost an audience stand in

52:26

entrance at it where they show her walking

52:28

in and getting greeted by some other women and

52:30

she's introducing herself like, oh, hi, I'm

52:33

Daisy. And then we cut right to her in

52:35

the moment and she's saying, oh, I walked in.

52:37

I was like, whoa, everyone's so pretty. Someone should

52:39

have told me it was America's next top model.

52:42

And I was like, they're really trying to like put us in

52:44

her shoes as she walks in in a way that

52:46

normally people are just kind of like, we move on

52:48

from them as soon as they walk away from Joey.

52:51

So I thought that was interesting. They

52:53

want us to connect with her. Yeah. And

52:55

I think it comes up later too, like the

52:59

auditory overstimulation, you

53:01

know, I think this is like kind of

53:03

an intentional piece to get us to buy

53:05

in and I bought in. Yeah. I

53:07

like her. You don't have to worry about love her.

53:10

Also her baby pink sequin

53:12

dress is one of my favorite of

53:14

the sequin dresses. It's great. The

53:17

many of the many people that her stood out

53:19

is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah.

53:22

Sequin dresses. I love it. And

53:24

it really suits her. It's something that works great

53:26

for her. Finally we

53:28

get Leah's exit. She is in a beat

53:30

it down with an envelope in her hand,

53:32

of course. And Joey says, Hey, you.

53:36

She says that she hopes what's inside the envelope will

53:38

cultivate their story in a way that's authentic and real

53:40

to them. She's like, maybe you can

53:43

steal you later and we can open it together. And everyone's

53:45

just like, Oh my God, I need to know

53:48

what's in that letter. Like it's psyching everyone out.

53:50

Leah doesn't know what's in it. Joey doesn't know.

53:52

None of the women know. Is it a rose?

53:54

Can she send someone home? What is this mysterious,

53:56

powerful letter? They're all just

53:58

dying to find out. But

54:01

first, Joey has to come in and

54:03

give his little toast,

54:05

his opening toast to mark the

54:07

beginning of the festivities. And

54:10

he tells him like, oh, I was where you

54:12

all were recently. And before that, I was but

54:14

a humble teaching tennis professional in Hawaii who

54:17

wasn't even looking for his person. I

54:19

took a leap of faith and now I'm ready

54:21

to find my person just like my grandparents. And

54:24

he toast to finding his next double turner.

54:28

I felt like he really prepared the

54:30

speech and like memorized it. Like

54:34

he he was waiting for this

54:36

moment. And

54:38

then it's time for him to start having

54:40

one on one time. So

54:43

first we see him talk with Autumn. I

54:46

mean, she's just really connected to him because what

54:48

do you know, her grandparents

54:50

also were married. I mean, can

54:52

you believe you believe

54:55

your grandparents were married? My

54:57

grandparents were married. Stretch.

55:00

Again, I want to love like that. She's

55:02

like, I can't believe that you said

55:04

that you look up to your parents, grandparents love

55:06

story because I also look up to my grandparents

55:08

love story. It's crazy.

55:11

Like there's something here. And

55:14

she do this every single season.

55:19

And she afterwards is so overwhelmed. She's like,

55:22

I'm overwhelmed by his appearance. This human is

55:24

perfect. I would love to hold his hand

55:26

again. They're all so smitten

55:28

with him. Like the women on this season, you can

55:30

tell that they actually like

55:32

this man rather than just being

55:35

enamored of like the position that he's

55:37

in. Yeah,

55:40

we get a lot of like, I'm only here because it's

55:42

you. Like, I

55:44

can't believe it's you. I'm so excited that it's

55:46

you. Like, he is perfect. He's

55:48

hotter than I could have even dreamed of.

55:52

Erica is next. She

55:55

says his energy is very grounding and

55:57

she reveals that her family is all settled in Jersey.

56:00

But she feels she's being called to like a

56:02

more peaceful environment because it's very draining to be

56:04

around a city all the time. Is

56:07

that how you feel Claire? Or is your energy

56:09

just being constantly sapped by the

56:11

knowledge that there is a city,

56:13

Gotham City just looming

56:16

across the river? Honestly, that

56:18

energy from your pores. Yes, I do feel that

56:20

I'm being called to a more peaceful environment all

56:22

the time and yet I remain here.

56:27

Erica, he's like she's very sweet. She's got

56:29

this little spunk about her. I accept a

56:31

dance lesson from her any day. I

56:34

really love how we keep hearing Joey's thoughts on

56:36

the women because he has like

56:39

specific observations about all of them.

56:41

And I feel like we don't always think about

56:44

them. Yeah, I feel like

56:46

he's like we rarely get that. He's paying attention

56:48

to them, which is nice. We

56:51

usually get the bachelors being like she

56:53

seems awesome and so

56:55

beautiful. Yeah, they're all so

56:58

beautiful. She's beautiful. Like my

57:00

wife, she's definitely here among

57:03

this amazing awesome group

57:05

of women. And Joey's like that one

57:07

dances. That one's from Toronto. That

57:10

one has fun. That one's very

57:12

soft-spoken, a way that draws you

57:14

in. It really draws me in.

57:16

It mesmerized. I find it mesmerizing.

57:19

Like he's, you know, he's really

57:21

paying attention. I love

57:23

an observant man. He and

57:25

Jess sit on the boat that she rode

57:27

in on and she says that she loves

57:29

that he has sisters and he says his

57:31

sisters are his world. I'm

57:33

like, yeah, that's the attitude that a

57:36

brother should have in my opinion. Like

57:38

the proper deference to his sister. She's

57:41

like, I want that. I volunteer. I want to

57:44

be their new sister. She

57:46

describes basically she's from Tennessee and then she

57:48

lived in Denver for a while and she

57:50

like snowboarded and hiked and then she's like,

57:52

I've done everything I want to do here.

57:54

So I'm going to keep going west. And

57:56

now she lives in San Diego. like

58:00

manifest destiny is for me

58:02

baby. The Oregon Trail? Like

58:05

why are we in West?

58:08

She's in her manifest destiny era.

58:11

Yeah. I love that. He

58:14

loves the river. I

58:17

guess we do not. Oh my God. So

58:19

far west. I

58:22

mean, we can go even further enough. Why are you

58:24

doing it? Exactly, like well. I think that's not the

58:26

way we're headed. Yeah, that's why she's here. She's like,

58:28

how am I gonna make that next leap? Why

58:31

Oregon Trail doesn't continue. Love

58:33

Hawaii. So

58:37

true. He loves that

58:39

she's a traveler. They

58:41

end up kissing on the boat. She seems

58:43

to wanna go back in for another, but

58:46

his energy is not quite as receptive to

58:48

a second kiss. So she has to stop

58:50

herself. But she is very, very,

58:52

very excited after this. She's like a

58:54

glow. And she immediately

58:56

goes back in and spells the beans.

58:58

I believe we have a clip. You

59:01

guys, how was it? He is just

59:03

precious. Like, aw. I

59:06

hope that you all get the chance to

59:08

talk to him. He is absolutely amazing. And

59:10

I dig a little smoochy poo. Oh!

59:14

Oh! Oh my God! Did

59:16

you initiate it or did you? It

59:18

was kind of mutual. Oh

59:20

my word. Oh

59:22

my God, please don't come get me. Is

59:24

he sober? Hi! Hi!

59:29

Shady. Yeah, right. So

59:31

shady. Sober, that's hilarious. I

59:33

mean, I will say Jess does not seem super sober

59:35

at this point. No! And

59:38

increasingly not for the rest of the night. I

59:40

was like, yeah. There's always

59:42

one that seems to fill

59:45

that role and she is, yeah. And

59:48

it used to happen so much more

59:50

aggressively before they instituted the drink limits.

59:53

Oh, right. Someone would be getting carted out by the end

59:55

of the night. Yeah, someone would be like falling in the

59:57

pool naked. And now they're just.

1:00:01

Yeah, but everyone

1:00:03

is kind of unimpressed by this. Medina's like, how

1:00:05

do you not read the room? Like we don't

1:00:07

really want to hear about that. It's just

1:00:09

so early to do this. Like she's one

1:00:12

of the first people to talk to

1:00:14

him. They're all just getting comfortable. And

1:00:17

it's like, she also, I

1:00:20

think what's extra annoying about it is that she's

1:00:22

clearly aware to an extent

1:00:25

that it could rub people the wrong way because

1:00:27

she immediately says, don't come get

1:00:29

me for this. I don't want to put a target

1:00:31

on my back. And it's like, well, then why did

1:00:33

you tell everyone? It's

1:00:36

like, Jess is, Jess is giving early season

1:00:39

flame out villain energy to me.

1:00:41

Yeah, or just like, how old is she?

1:00:43

She seems like a younger soul to me,

1:00:45

you know? I

1:00:49

don't know. It's not really

1:00:52

giving the best vibes in the

1:00:54

house currently but it could

1:00:56

change, you know, sometimes the night oneers, you

1:00:58

know. Turn it around. Having

1:01:00

seen the season preview, I don't have

1:01:03

high hopes. I know, but

1:01:05

yeah, you never know. She doesn't seem,

1:01:07

she seems like someone who will say,

1:01:09

I don't want there to be drama,

1:01:12

but she can't resist saying or doing

1:01:14

the thing that will get her involved in

1:01:16

drama. And I think that that is going

1:01:18

to continue. We may end up

1:01:20

on her side, you never know, but it's clear that

1:01:22

she was going to continue to be involved in

1:01:25

drama. Her rampage has just

1:01:27

started and will continue throughout the

1:01:29

night. They always have to find

1:01:31

one. In her, in

1:01:34

the moments, she's basically just on

1:01:36

a high. She knows she's starting to piss off the

1:01:38

girls and she's like, whatever,

1:01:40

I'm just gonna have a little sippy pool wine.

1:01:42

Like the other one will get invites to the

1:01:44

wedding, maybe. She's just like,

1:01:46

I've got this in the bag. I kissed

1:01:48

him on a boat. Like everyone

1:01:51

else can leave. I

1:01:53

also started to be like, has she watched the show? Because

1:01:56

to do a victory

1:01:58

lap like this. never

1:02:00

works out well. This is Braden,

1:02:03

right? This is like

1:02:05

more than one woman is gonna get a kiss and you're going

1:02:07

to be the only one who handled it

1:02:09

in such an embarrassing way. Right. 100% Braden.

1:02:13

Yeah. Yeah. It also

1:02:16

makes me feel like production was encouraging

1:02:18

her because they saw how much drama

1:02:20

kicked up with Braden and they're like,

1:02:22

yeah, let's keep that going. She just

1:02:24

seems like kind of malleable to production.

1:02:26

That was the energy I

1:02:29

was getting. So after

1:02:31

this, we see Jen and

1:02:33

Joey drive around in

1:02:36

go-karts having a blast.

1:02:39

And she's like, you know, I just, I like to

1:02:41

have fun. And Joey all of a sudden is like,

1:02:44

shit, I've made

1:02:46

a grave error with my speech

1:02:48

that I practiced 10 times. I

1:02:51

didn't mention that this should be fun.

1:02:53

I was serious. Like, oh my gosh,

1:02:56

I'm so sorry. I was so earnest in my, in

1:02:58

my little toast, but I should have also said that

1:03:00

this is for this should be fun and fun

1:03:02

is good. And I like fun. I do.

1:03:06

It's cool. We can have fun together.

1:03:08

She's like, great. And then

1:03:10

she says that she only came because it was

1:03:12

Joey because she had to put her PA

1:03:14

school on hold and she only did it for

1:03:16

a real shot of love. She

1:03:19

does also claim that she plays tennis and

1:03:22

she needs to be the only one. Yeah, we found

1:03:24

her. Yeah. We found the woman who plays tennis. Do

1:03:28

we believe that she would only put PA

1:03:30

school on hold for a specific bachelor

1:03:32

or is the bachelor is going

1:03:35

on the bachelor worth it? Even

1:03:37

if it's not Joey. I mean,

1:03:40

it depends. It's a risk.

1:03:43

It is a risk. It is a

1:03:45

risk. I do. But it's a timeline like

1:03:47

how many of them actually knew it was

1:03:49

going to be Joey before they signed

1:03:52

on that dotted line. I don't think they,

1:03:54

I don't think many of them.

1:03:57

Right. Right. Like, yeah.

1:04:00

That's. The. Way casting goes,

1:04:02

I mean I had it all down. probably

1:04:04

got past like last minute. They always had

1:04:06

a few. The that like. On

1:04:08

the whole. Say. Kind of are going

1:04:11

through. Their. Archives and

1:04:13

they're rolling. It's a it's A

1:04:15

Rolling Admissions Services Most of us

1:04:17

are. They're messy. see him

1:04:20

giving Medina a tennis tutorial with a

1:04:22

giant oversized tennis ball. He he's putting

1:04:24

his hands on her way which is

1:04:26

very exposed by her dress cutouts. I

1:04:28

see really thought this all out very

1:04:31

well in advance and he's like Medina

1:04:33

has a competitive spirit that's exactly what

1:04:35

you want to see that doubles partner

1:04:37

and a partner at my is. Like.

1:04:43

You know, you always want your romantic

1:04:45

partner to be competing with Diego in

1:04:48

every aspect of your place. Yeah

1:04:50

well maybe like double matured are eating your

1:04:52

for meeting together. Against the World War

1:04:54

Alright for every other how stock

1:04:56

market see every other say that

1:04:58

my so called sir power couple

1:05:00

situation right? Yeah, we're going for.

1:05:03

Every dinner party though to your your like

1:05:05

we're going to be the top couple. Their

1:05:07

sabers know our domestic sphere, just raising everyone.

1:05:10

You go out the keep, a little spreadsheet,

1:05:12

your phone bill. i'm sorry where it we

1:05:14

have to pods and or six foot down.

1:05:16

Our ratings for the Is is. We

1:05:18

also get some quick glimpse as a ten.

1:05:21

Meeting some of the other ladies,

1:05:23

Sydney says she once made the

1:05:25

record for the most Frito shots

1:05:27

at a Florida bar. Samantha.

1:05:30

Set reveals that she's from Nebraska.

1:05:33

Sorry. For his. Cell

1:05:36

is listed. As

1:05:39

the red. Star.

1:05:43

Reveals that she is happy

1:05:45

to be here. Edwina. Reveals

1:05:48

that he loves to express their love through cooking.

1:05:50

I'm just sitting with reveals his yeah these are

1:05:52

the middle of soft and rebellious and as you

1:05:55

get mad and. Lamy

1:05:57

reveals as he as a puppy

1:05:59

named Lana. And Chrissa

1:06:02

says she wants to go golfing with him. Chandler

1:06:05

compliments his eyes. Joey's

1:06:08

doing his best to take the fall on board, but

1:06:10

he's like, I'm really a one-woman man, so it's really

1:06:12

hard to have 30 beautiful women all,

1:06:14

you know, trying to date me at once.

1:06:17

It's so difficult. Joey, it's gonna be a rough

1:06:20

ride for you, okay? Really rough. Joey's

1:06:22

trying to win me over. Like, you're, I'm

1:06:24

here. Like, you can admit that it's fun

1:06:26

to have 30 gorgeous women fawning

1:06:28

over you. It's fine. Inside,

1:06:31

however, Daisy is starting to struggle a

1:06:33

little bit because it is hard for

1:06:35

her to hear well with that much

1:06:37

noise going on. There's just like, when

1:06:39

you have a cochlear implant, you

1:06:41

know, having that much auditory

1:06:43

information that's mixed together, I remember

1:06:45

this from Abigail too, that

1:06:47

like, it can be hard to separate

1:06:50

it all out and understand what's happening, and it's

1:06:52

very overwhelming for her. I

1:06:54

think especially if you've only

1:06:56

had the cochlear implant for not that

1:06:59

much time, and she said she only

1:07:01

got it about a year ago, so

1:07:03

I'd imagine her brain is really still

1:07:05

adjusting to kind of have a, yeah, sort through

1:07:07

all of those, all

1:07:09

those different sounds. Hmm. So

1:07:12

she gets some time with Joey and tells

1:07:14

him a little bit about the Christmas tree

1:07:16

farm, and she's, she's like, you

1:07:18

know, I want to tell him about the implant, but there's

1:07:20

more to me than that. So she seems to be wanting

1:07:23

to kind of introduce him

1:07:25

to other sides of her first. And

1:07:28

they end up just having a nice conversation where

1:07:30

she's like, how are you doing? Like this

1:07:32

is really about you finding

1:07:34

love. I want you to be kind to

1:07:36

yourself and like, I'm here to like, be

1:07:38

supportive. And he

1:07:41

is like, picking up what she's putting

1:07:43

down. Oh, she's so into it. So

1:07:45

gorgeous. So into her immediately. Yes.

1:07:48

He loves her soft spoken demeanor. He

1:07:50

says it's captivating and he

1:07:52

ends up just like falling into her lips.

1:07:54

Like he can't resist. He just like leans

1:07:56

in and just kisses her and she's like,

1:07:58

oh. I love

1:08:00

how shocked she was. I didn't think he

1:08:03

was gonna want to kiss me, but he

1:08:05

did. Best Christmas ever. So

1:08:07

cute. I feel like she has that

1:08:09

like beautiful but doesn't know

1:08:11

it energy where she's coming into the

1:08:13

interaction being like, oh, he wants

1:08:16

to kiss me. Oh, I wasn't

1:08:18

even thinking about that. And that's

1:08:20

obviously we all love that energy. It's

1:08:23

very winning. Meanwhile,

1:08:26

some of the women, especially

1:08:28

Taylor, are like openly shit talking

1:08:30

to us who is like,

1:08:33

I don't care. I'm not bothered. I'm

1:08:36

just feeling so good because

1:08:39

of my connection with Joey. She's

1:08:41

like, if that first impression rose doesn't go to me,

1:08:43

I don't know who it's going to. And then

1:08:45

she starts a little dance being like, I

1:08:47

am. I'm like, just watch the show. This

1:08:53

demeanor always comes before a fall.

1:08:55

This is not yes. Front

1:08:58

runner behavior. I

1:09:00

know. I was just worried about her. I'm like, stop drinking. Just

1:09:05

sit on the couch for a while. Observe.

1:09:10

But no, she does not. She

1:09:12

is in fact so humped that

1:09:15

she decides to

1:09:17

wander on over and interrupt Taylor's

1:09:20

conversation with Joey. We

1:09:22

have a part of this interaction. Someone

1:09:25

that like relates to it and

1:09:27

like understands like having divorced parents and everything.

1:09:29

It's really so sorry. Do you carry your

1:09:31

pass to Dylan for a quick second time?

1:09:34

Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah,

1:09:36

we got cut short the first time.

1:09:39

Can we have like one more minute? Sure.

1:09:44

Okay. I'll be over here. Sounds

1:09:47

good. So

1:09:49

awkward. So bad. Jill,

1:09:51

I am like dying to know as someone

1:09:53

who has been present for one of these

1:09:55

nights, like how something like this happens. Like,

1:09:57

did production make it happen? her

1:10:00

do this? Like, yes. Oh

1:10:02

my god. Right. Well, it's also like you

1:10:04

can't talk to him. There

1:10:08

is no stealing. Yeah, I thought there was

1:10:10

there's no way that I'm gonna go the first

1:10:14

time without talking to him because I'll just go over and interrupt. I

1:10:16

don't care. You if you

1:10:18

try to go out of producer will say,

1:10:20

No, no, no. You

1:10:23

cannot steal unless stolen to you

1:10:25

know what I'm saying? Yeah, you it has to be

1:10:27

it has to be set up. So

1:10:29

it was it was a setup. And

1:10:32

I do feel that you don't have to agree to the

1:10:34

setup. Right. Right. That's the thing.

1:10:36

That's what I was thinking. I was

1:10:38

like, Girl, you're digging yourself a hole

1:10:40

by agreeing to be the one to

1:10:43

do the feeling. And, and we also

1:10:45

haven't seen I feel like a lot

1:10:47

of stealing. We've actually seen no stealing,

1:10:50

because I do feel like it is, I

1:10:52

don't know, it's like it's tired. Yeah.

1:10:54

Yeah. And I also wonder if women

1:10:57

especially are

1:11:00

catching on like, I know

1:11:02

for sure exactly what I want what we all I think

1:11:04

probably wanted to say to Taylor, which is like a production

1:11:06

is having you do this. They are not

1:11:08

your friends, you're being set up,

1:11:10

right? Be some sort of villain, or to

1:11:13

be involved in drama. Like, if

1:11:16

you're favorite on your ball, and

1:11:18

you watch the show, and you know what's going

1:11:20

on, you just be like, No, I don't want

1:11:22

I'm not going to interrupt. Right? Right.

1:11:25

Exactly. Don't interrupt. And I feel like it

1:11:27

also is such a weird position

1:11:29

for the lead to be in because then

1:11:31

they're just watching two people bing, bing, bing,

1:11:33

bingo back and forth. And Joe, you can

1:11:35

tell he's like uncomfortable. And yeah,

1:11:38

so if you're the person who's trying to

1:11:40

steal him, it's not like he's going to

1:11:42

be excited to talk to you. Yeah, that

1:11:45

is exactly the thing. And it's also and

1:11:47

that I mean, the thing is that neither

1:11:50

Jess nor Taylor ends up coming off

1:11:53

particularly well, because they're just like a

1:11:55

visible annoyance and animosity between the two

1:11:57

of them. And then Joey feels awkward.

1:12:00

And you know that like that's the

1:12:02

association he's gonna carry right? Yes You

1:12:04

don't get the option of having him

1:12:06

have a first memory of talking to

1:12:09

you that isn't primarily about you being

1:12:11

annoyed Which is what

1:12:13

ends up with Taylor like that's the lingering

1:12:16

memory of her being annoyed That

1:12:18

she's like second time. Yeah, I guess good

1:12:20

for you for standing up But also I think the best

1:12:23

thing to do in that situation Like

1:12:25

best thing to do in that situation is just like

1:12:28

I'm so glad we got to talk like I'll catch up with you

1:12:30

later and be like yeah Yeah, and

1:12:33

then just walk away and then

1:12:35

talk to it with your friends talk so

1:12:37

much it with your friends It's gonna be

1:12:39

shown but like oh, it's very it's very

1:12:41

strange. That was that was that rubbed I

1:12:43

think everybody the wrong way Yeah And then

1:12:45

just like also loiter is five feet away

1:12:47

until Taylor eventually leaves which means that Taylor

1:12:49

can't like Finish the interaction

1:12:51

and I'm in like a natural way

1:12:53

because she knows that they're being like

1:12:55

listen to and watched and

1:12:57

as She walks away

1:12:59

as Taylor walks away. Just like sorry. I'm

1:13:01

not trying to be that girl And

1:13:04

you are you are like you you agree to be that

1:13:07

girl Unfortunately,

1:13:11

yeah, and her time was not

1:13:13

cut off. Yeah. What is she doesn't

1:13:15

what they ended with making out like I'm sure

1:13:18

I'm sure she's green Corporate

1:13:23

green I feel like what she's saying

1:13:25

is that like our conversation was ended

1:13:27

before I wanted it to be ended But you

1:13:29

only get to talk for like five minutes. So

1:13:31

of course it was that doesn't count as you

1:13:33

being like cut short You got to make out

1:13:35

with him like that counts as a full interaction.

1:13:38

I'm sorry Agree,

1:13:40

this is the thing that like gets on my nerves

1:13:42

the most about Jasmine's episode though. Is that? She

1:13:46

wants to like do the stuff Like

1:13:49

stealing him like bragging about the kiss and then

1:13:51

be like don't think of me as the person who

1:13:53

does those things Because in my heart, I'm not that

1:13:55

person Right. Yeah,

1:13:57

you if you're gonna Take on the

1:13:59

villain. For all you have to kind of

1:14:01

lean into a embrace at own. And the

1:14:03

like but I'm not doing it. I'm not Bl

1:14:06

and it's different when I deal at I do

1:14:08

it in a pure of heart way that sucks

1:14:10

even say you know I'm not here to make

1:14:12

friends with like. I. Haven't heard

1:14:14

someone say that is. So

1:14:16

straightforwardly in seasons like he says

1:14:19

it. Speaking of outdated, Yeah, right.

1:14:21

Or and said comment on this

1:14:23

line. And then she

1:14:25

is. Ultimately, we don't see her really say

1:14:27

anything to Jelly except that she wants to

1:14:29

talk to him more than the other women

1:14:32

wanna talk to him. And so this is

1:14:34

her proving that the ham and he's like,

1:14:36

okay, Gray Weird, What

1:14:38

a phone conversation. Now there

1:14:40

are two girls and gold

1:14:42

sequence who are in a

1:14:44

fight and. It's. Gonna

1:14:46

be hard for me to knock him mixing their

1:14:48

names up for sale so look the same. Almost

1:14:52

immediately as soon as just returned to

1:14:54

the group, Taylor who has ban that

1:14:56

revealing what happened, the other women pulse

1:14:59

her for a side chat and she's.

1:15:02

Really? Mad that jostled like eavesdropping

1:15:04

on their conversation a mercy hovered

1:15:06

while they're finishing up so that

1:15:08

tell her couldn't really cast ham

1:15:10

and. Since is that? It's like

1:15:12

let us all out at us. Census.

1:15:14

Defenses like well as a tell. It was a

1:15:16

really serious conversation and so I stepped back and

1:15:19

Seles as us are you where he is shopping

1:15:21

for a while and as was like why time

1:15:23

to make it seem like something it wasn't You're

1:15:25

trying to put actions and words my mouth that

1:15:27

didn't happen. And

1:15:29

I'm like Charles. It. It

1:15:32

seems like what it was weird says he

1:15:34

were harboring there. And

1:15:36

then you interrupt dead and then you have heard

1:15:39

some war. And I don't

1:15:41

think tailored. It's like put any where it's

1:15:43

in your mouth to make it seem like

1:15:45

that because that's what happens. We we saw

1:15:47

at. It. Was

1:15:49

very odd. I was like just using

1:15:51

carrots. Convincing anyone with this. There's

1:15:54

some cognitive dissonance I feel going

1:15:56

on with just like. yeah

1:15:59

it's not and understanding maybe

1:16:01

even repercussions to action. This is

1:16:03

kind of a normal, this is

1:16:05

like, if stealing someone as

1:16:08

part of the whole shebang, also having

1:16:10

some one-on-one chats with somebody is also

1:16:12

part of it. There

1:16:16

has to be some sort of, I don't know, ownership

1:16:18

of the action. But then it just

1:16:20

goes into. Well, I did it, so

1:16:22

yeah. Also, if you were

1:16:25

gonna take that tack, why

1:16:28

did you go through all the other

1:16:31

justifications first? Right. Yeah. It's very strange.

1:16:33

She's just trying different things that will

1:16:35

get Taylor to just be like, OK,

1:16:39

it's fine that you did that. And

1:16:42

drop it. And that's obviously not going to

1:16:44

happen. Like, first, she's just like, oh, I

1:16:46

did the respectful thing, and I stepped back.

1:16:48

And Taylor is like, I

1:16:51

don't feel like you are respectful. And then

1:16:53

she's like, well, you know, I did it. Then

1:16:57

they have this weird exchange

1:16:59

where Taylor is like, you've got to

1:17:02

respect people. And Jess is like, mm-hmm. And

1:17:04

Taylor is like, well, I wouldn't have done what you did.

1:17:06

And Jess is like, well, I'm sure it'll come back around.

1:17:09

And Taylor finally says, karma is

1:17:12

real. And then

1:17:14

Jess says, I feel like that's a little backhanded,

1:17:16

but OK. And

1:17:19

I'm like, OK. So you're

1:17:21

going to call out Taylor for being rude or

1:17:25

for giving you the cold

1:17:27

shoulder when she walked away, which she also calls

1:17:29

out. She's like, I don't know what the cold

1:17:31

shoulder was for. So

1:17:33

you're going to call her out for these little social microaggressions

1:17:37

against you, these little social

1:17:39

flights. But you

1:17:41

expect her to play nice

1:17:43

while you're stepping

1:17:45

all over her toes. You're expecting her to not

1:17:47

call it out when you commit these social flights

1:17:50

against her. The

1:17:53

inconsistency there is really

1:17:55

infuriating. Like, if you don't care about those social niceties

1:17:57

when you're committing them, then you shouldn't care about. about

1:18:00

it when there's blowback either. It

1:18:03

just like really irritated me. She

1:18:05

just handled this terribly and she ends

1:18:07

up just being more irritating.

1:18:10

Yeah. Because she's not committing to being a

1:18:12

villain. She's trying to have it both ways. And

1:18:15

it's just, you can just tell like this is not going

1:18:17

to end well for her and I

1:18:19

honestly don't see her being on the show for that long.

1:18:22

That was my main takeaway. Yeah.

1:18:25

So after this confrontation,

1:18:28

Lauren and Allison have

1:18:30

a little private meeting so that they

1:18:32

can both establish that yes, they do

1:18:35

both like Joey and they

1:18:37

both want to kiss him and marry him and

1:18:39

do all that stuff. But first they

1:18:41

have to shake hands and poop each

1:18:44

other's noses because it's just

1:18:46

too hard to keep this sister relationship

1:18:48

a secret. There is an

1:18:51

elephant in the room. Everyone's

1:18:54

been talking about it. Everyone.

1:18:56

They head back in to announce it

1:18:59

to the whole group. They're

1:19:01

like, there has been this weird elephant in the room this

1:19:03

whole time and you can see all

1:19:05

the women being like, what? What? Like,

1:19:08

who are you? At

1:19:11

this point, a little asterisk pops

1:19:13

up on screen saying, there

1:19:15

was in fact no elephant in the

1:19:17

room. Yes.

1:19:19

I love this. Excellent work, editors.

1:19:21

More of this. We

1:19:24

love this cheekiness. Yes. I

1:19:27

love when they have fun with it. And

1:19:29

then they announce simultaneously that they are sisters

1:19:31

and there is initially just an awkward silence.

1:19:34

Everyone's just confused. Yeah. So

1:19:36

weird. It's weird. There

1:19:39

is a flood then of like the mused questions. It's

1:19:41

like, isn't it weird for you guys to like date

1:19:43

the same guy? And it

1:19:45

seems like the consensus that quickly emerges is

1:19:47

like, if

1:19:50

I had a sister or if it were my sister,

1:19:52

I wouldn't do this experience

1:19:54

with them. And I think they're nuts for

1:19:57

doing this. And I also

1:19:59

think, don't you. don't we get a little cook they're like,

1:20:01

well, we've like done it before but there's like not a

1:20:03

lot of overlap. Yeah, we've

1:20:06

overlapped a little and you're like, what,

1:20:08

say more or say or say less.

1:20:10

I don't know. So that yeah, I

1:20:13

had more questions. I came out with

1:20:15

more questions than that. They

1:20:17

were sisters. Oh, we think is that

1:20:20

we have had twins before and I feel

1:20:22

like often by coming out together,

1:20:25

they get less of people fixate less on

1:20:27

how weird it is. They're just like, oh,

1:20:29

look, twins were cast and almost by pumping

1:20:32

it up more and releasing the information later,

1:20:34

the sisters made it more

1:20:36

of a talking point that they came

1:20:39

in weird because they're like we're

1:20:41

separate. We are separately here to

1:20:43

pursue Joey very separately. Yeah, also

1:20:45

sisters and make my life of a

1:20:47

gimmick that they're just like a type of

1:20:49

hip and they showed up together and more

1:20:52

just like we're just two people who happen

1:20:54

to be sisters who are competing for a

1:20:56

man. Exactly. People. Yeah. But then

1:20:58

usually twins will be like, oh, we've

1:21:00

never dated the same person. And yeah,

1:21:02

instead they have been in person and then you

1:21:04

start to get like a weird vibe. What's

1:21:07

going on here? But

1:21:10

Lauren gets to talk with Joey first.

1:21:12

She reveals that she is from Center

1:21:14

City in Philadelphia. She's close to her

1:21:16

family. She has a sister and two

1:21:18

brothers. She tells him that

1:21:20

he looks like he's a great kisser and she's

1:21:23

excited to find that out for herself. There

1:21:25

is a very awkward seeming pause. He

1:21:28

does not lean in. He's not in a hurry to

1:21:30

prove anything to her. I would.

1:21:32

I don't think he's that into

1:21:35

Lauren. No, no, it's

1:21:37

giving awkward energy for her. Yeah.

1:21:39

Yeah. It seems like she is someone

1:21:41

who is very competitive, very used to being

1:21:43

able to make things happen for herself, but

1:21:46

she's not his vibe. And so he's just

1:21:48

not picking up what she's putting down. Meanwhile,

1:21:52

Lauren is giving in the moments about how Lauren

1:21:55

having the upper hand going first with Joey

1:21:57

is bringing up a jealousy aspect. We

1:22:00

barely started and this is I'm not one

1:22:02

that is gonna go so badly. is. A

1:22:06

so sadly so quickly since

1:22:08

I wilde to watch sushi

1:22:10

and erupts her own sister.

1:22:13

So we are us. Again,

1:22:16

I like production is loving the so like

1:22:18

why don't you why you were taught. To

1:22:20

Zoe. Now yes, while he's worth

1:22:23

your sister fell. Flat. More.

1:22:26

N. Says like I'm not

1:22:28

piss off and just salty. I wanted

1:22:30

to kiss him first. And

1:22:33

my sister. Alice

1:22:35

and then tell say about herself and he

1:22:37

said to be like oh, you're also from

1:22:39

center city and you have a specific number

1:22:42

siblings and I'm starting to feel like I've

1:22:44

heard this story before. A like, literally three

1:22:46

seconds ago. And. Then

1:22:48

Allison just goes for as he lands and

1:22:50

and kisses ham sure that really wait for

1:22:53

him to initiate. No. More

1:22:56

and of course is watching and

1:22:58

says live Ed. Because. See

1:23:00

needed to kiss. Him for his because she's

1:23:02

the eldest daughter. See

1:23:05

burst onto the scene. Sits

1:23:08

down on the couch next Jelly and they are self

1:23:10

athena sisters. They managed to do this and the most.

1:23:12

Off and we're glad for. It's

1:23:16

so weird. and Joey's like yeah, I

1:23:18

was kind of. Putting. That

1:23:20

together, chaos. Because

1:23:23

you were. While.

1:23:26

It was some find about it. He

1:23:28

said it's this is is really cool

1:23:30

the you guys are willing to do

1:23:32

this together. And I really look

1:23:34

forward to getting snow you pose?

1:23:37

More. Yeah. He

1:23:39

does not seem excited about it at all.

1:23:41

In fact, he expresses that he is very

1:23:43

worried because he thinks things could get. Complicated.

1:23:46

And he's. Correct. Season Hail

1:23:49

knows that are sister is. he has the

1:23:51

power of sisters even beard and so many

1:23:53

ways said he handles the were man and

1:23:55

even the way that as segue like and

1:23:57

his like remember that your drinks like lesser

1:23:59

had fled Let's all get back inside. I'm

1:24:01

like, he's used to being around a couple

1:24:04

women at once. You know, he

1:24:06

knows how this can go. Allie

1:24:09

is teasing Lauren about being jealous, and Lauren is

1:24:11

like, I'm not jealous. I'm happy and confident. I

1:24:13

am going to marry Joey. Like,

1:24:16

oh my God, this is such a nightmare already.

1:24:19

Joey then sits down with Kelsey A. She

1:24:22

tells him that she's from a military family and she actually

1:24:24

grew up in Germany. So she doesn't have deep roots.

1:24:26

She finds it very exciting to live in new places.

1:24:29

Maybe Philadelphia or Honolulu, like who

1:24:31

can say she's open. I

1:24:34

think this is the best trait for a bachelor that

1:24:36

a contestant can have is just like a willingness to

1:24:38

move to wherever he wants to live. It's

1:24:41

what they're all looking for. And Joey

1:24:44

is very into her. He's like, I

1:24:46

find her very striking. He

1:24:48

holds up his little voodoo doll during

1:24:50

his ITM and he

1:24:52

says, little Joey, you just met

1:24:54

a very pretty girl. That

1:24:57

was so cute. And

1:24:59

also kind of like surprised

1:25:01

me. I don't know why it was a surprise that they

1:25:04

had such good chemistry and he was like so

1:25:06

into it. I feel like

1:25:08

this is our first time seeing him be,

1:25:10

I don't know. Yeah,

1:25:12

there was just like a real natural chemistry

1:25:14

that totally shifted the

1:25:16

power dynamic that we usually

1:25:18

see between the bachelor and the

1:25:21

contestants. This was just like,

1:25:23

ooh, I'm watching a guy be like taken

1:25:25

aback. By his

1:25:27

attraction and like flirtatiousness with this woman.

1:25:29

Also with the doll, I can't. He

1:25:32

loved the voodoo doll. Loved it. One

1:25:34

of my favorite moments in a bachelor season

1:25:36

is always when a bachelor is into something

1:25:39

just a little bit off of

1:25:41

the beaten bachelor trail. Like

1:25:44

something other than him sitting down with a blonde

1:25:46

woman and being like, I love that your parents

1:25:48

have been married for 35 years. So

1:25:51

has my parents. I'm like, I'm really looking for my

1:25:53

teammate and I can tell you are too. As

1:25:56

soon as there's any personality in a woman

1:25:58

and he responds to it really well. that

1:26:00

just makes me warm to

1:26:03

a bachelor so much. I'm

1:26:05

like, oh, he like, yeah, it

1:26:07

really is. Also

1:26:10

for a moment when he says little Joey, he

1:26:12

hasn't held up the voodoo doll yet. And I

1:26:14

thought he was talking about something else. And I

1:26:17

was like, Joey, my God. And then I was

1:26:19

like, okay, it's the voodoo doll. Right, it's the

1:26:21

tiny voodoo doll, not the

1:26:24

other thing. Then

1:26:27

we go back to Leo's card. It

1:26:29

is hanging over everyone, like the sword

1:26:31

of Danakles. She

1:26:34

goes to sit by the fireplace and

1:26:36

open it alone. She like can't wait anymore.

1:26:38

She's too desperate to know what's in there.

1:26:41

So she takes out the card and it says, months

1:26:44

ago you took a bold risk for love.

1:26:47

Which does that just mean like when

1:26:49

she agreed to come on the show? Or

1:26:53

are we supposed to, is that

1:26:55

for our benefit as the audience?

1:26:58

Because it's been months since we've seen

1:27:00

her. Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah,

1:27:03

maybe, maybe. It

1:27:05

just made me confused. I was like, is there more

1:27:07

I'm supposed to know about this woman? Like, is there

1:27:09

more backstory that I'm not privy to? Cause I'm confused

1:27:11

about the timeline. But then

1:27:13

the card says, now you're finally here at

1:27:15

the bachelor mansion. This card gives you the

1:27:17

power to steal a one-on-one date from anyone

1:27:19

at any time before hometowns. Fascinating

1:27:22

move by production. I'm dying to

1:27:24

hear everyone's thoughtfulness. Yes,

1:27:27

yeah. Jill, what did you think of this? Oh

1:27:29

my God. I feel like that's devastating. But

1:27:31

honestly, it was interesting to see her reaction

1:27:33

to it. Cause if I were getting, I'd

1:27:35

be like, yay. I

1:27:39

wouldn't break into tears.

1:27:41

It really was like, I was like, wow, she is

1:27:43

a better woman than I. Because I would have been

1:27:45

maybe a little excited about it. Obviously,

1:27:48

going through the process and then, if

1:27:51

someone gets a one-on-one, they're so excited. It's

1:27:53

honestly rare if you get a one-on-one. And

1:27:55

then for someone to take it away, oh,

1:27:57

that's terrible. It's a bad idea. put

1:28:00

a target on her back, that's

1:28:02

like a reoccurring theme that we've been seeing.

1:28:05

Tarn on my back, turn on my back. But

1:28:07

it kind of does. And

1:28:09

it's just not nice. So it was

1:28:11

interesting to see how quickly she realized

1:28:13

how badly it could go. She seems

1:28:16

very perceptive to how the process goes

1:28:18

and how her actions affect other people.

1:28:20

And also Joey. Yeah, I really liked

1:28:22

that. I found this so interesting. It

1:28:25

was almost like a Rorosh test

1:28:28

of character. Because she immediately

1:28:32

just sees the way that

1:28:34

this could threaten her

1:28:37

social dynamics with the women. I

1:28:39

think some people would have gotten this and been like, okay,

1:28:41

maybe this won't help me with Joey,

1:28:44

but this puts me in a powerful position within

1:28:46

the world of the show. I'm guaranteed

1:28:49

more screen time, more exposure,

1:28:51

being a bigger part of

1:28:53

the plot. And what Leia

1:28:55

sees is like, the other

1:28:57

women will hate me.

1:29:00

It won't mean that Joey likes me

1:29:02

more. So

1:29:04

this is actually not useful to me because

1:29:06

that's not really the kind of game

1:29:09

that she has come in to play.

1:29:11

Whereas I think if that was given

1:29:13

to a different kind of person who

1:29:16

was trying to play a different kind of game, it would

1:29:18

have gone very differently. This definitely made me think

1:29:20

of the game of roses paradigm of watching

1:29:22

the show because it's so obvious that she

1:29:24

has like different moves

1:29:27

that she can make with this card that

1:29:29

would like appeal to different parts,

1:29:32

like parts of the audience, the women,

1:29:34

Joey in different ways, and those could

1:29:36

like benefit her or hurt her in different

1:29:38

ways. And to watch her navigate that is

1:29:40

something I feel like it was so obvious

1:29:43

that it was became such a strategic question.

1:29:46

And she yeah, at first she's like,

1:29:48

I'm grateful, but like, she can

1:29:50

tell it's a bomb that's going to like blow up in

1:29:52

her face. So how does she handle it? And

1:29:56

does she really like take

1:29:58

advantage of it despite the fact that that's gonna make

1:30:00

the women hate her? Or is

1:30:02

she going to gag and

1:30:05

do a totally different strategy with it?

1:30:07

And I thought it was incredible that she took

1:30:09

this thing that seems like the producer is really

1:30:12

setting her up to be some sort of villain.

1:30:15

And instead she turned it

1:30:17

into like the ultimate face turn

1:30:21

and came out on top. Oh

1:30:23

my gosh. Yeah, she actually made

1:30:25

the best strategic move of all,

1:30:27

ultimately. Yeah, yeah. She meets up

1:30:29

with Joey. She's all

1:30:31

teary eyed, crying. He hugs her, asks

1:30:33

if she's okay. She apologizes. She's like,

1:30:35

I'm sorry, I couldn't wait. I opened

1:30:37

the card without you. She gives it

1:30:39

to him to read. He reads

1:30:42

it and he gives her kind of like

1:30:44

a big smile. It's interesting. He's almost like,

1:30:46

and what do you have to say about

1:30:49

this? Yeah. And then this is what

1:30:51

she says. We have a clip. You know, I

1:30:53

wanna give a lot of autonomy to you

1:30:56

in your journey and the

1:30:58

intentions you set. And I also wanna give a

1:31:01

lot of love and respect to the

1:31:03

women that have put their life on hold to

1:31:06

come here and almost like play

1:31:08

God in this and interfere with

1:31:10

your journey. And oh,

1:31:13

sorry, I'm like getting emotional. I

1:31:16

mean, she really, she does it all. She's

1:31:18

like, I respect your autonomy. This is

1:31:20

your journey. I respect the other women.

1:31:22

I love them. They're amazing. I'm the kind

1:31:24

of person that you know

1:31:26

is considerate of other people. I'm not

1:31:29

controlling. Like I'm a good sport.

1:31:32

I'm a warm

1:31:34

hearted giving person. She

1:31:36

says it all in like three sentences

1:31:39

and he loves it. He's like, that

1:31:41

says so much about your character. She's

1:31:44

like, look, I can get all these little tricks

1:31:46

or cards if I'm not your person. Or as she

1:31:48

says, if I'm not Joey's person at the end of

1:31:50

this, I'm not. And

1:31:53

Joey is like, wow, she is really

1:31:55

here for the right reasons. Having

1:31:59

like then, Played it this way

1:32:01

for Joey. She then goes and I don't want

1:32:03

to imply that this is like so

1:32:05

cynical But I do think it is strategic in

1:32:07

addition to like being genuine She

1:32:10

goes back in and and then does

1:32:13

her play with the women, right?

1:32:16

She's still tearful. She's trying to compose herself She

1:32:19

reveals to everyone after a long drawn-out

1:32:21

like emotional interlude. What is on the

1:32:23

card and everyone's like fuck That's

1:32:26

why that's not fair like we could have our

1:32:28

one-on-one stolen at any moment Also,

1:32:30

like who told you that anything

1:32:32

in this world was fair. Yeah

1:32:37

Yeah, I think they're all about fair

1:32:39

they're all they're especially obsessed with fairness

1:32:41

on the show because it is so

1:32:43

unfair like by definition they're trying to like

1:32:45

you're trying to like get as much fairness into

1:32:47

it as you can you're clawing yeah fairness and

1:32:51

and She thanks everyone for

1:32:53

their grace and support and then she gets up

1:32:56

and throws it in the fire Brilliant

1:32:58

so much better even than saying I'm not going to

1:33:00

take advantage of this She could have you know, ripped

1:33:03

it up throwing it in the fire cinematic

1:33:06

cinematic 10 out of 10

1:33:08

incredible move both from like a

1:33:10

character perspective and also strategy

1:33:13

perspective wins with

1:33:15

everyone. Yeah, because she

1:33:17

really did Everything she could

1:33:20

she did it the right way. Yeah,

1:33:22

it was Refreshing

1:33:24

to see yeah, it was I was

1:33:26

it I was like she is she's

1:33:28

making exactly the right move and she

1:33:30

and she made sure That everyone knows

1:33:33

right there. And so she

1:33:35

has she has maximized the

1:33:37

potential benefit to her

1:33:39

reputation I

1:33:41

respect it. I Rea

1:33:44

is like that was the perfect thing

1:33:46

to do very noble of her and

1:33:48

a handful of the other women are

1:33:50

like There was me. I would

1:33:53

have taken it. I think it's is it one

1:33:56

of the women is like some of you are gonna

1:33:58

jump into that Yeah, someone's

1:34:00

gonna jump into the fire. That's funny.

1:34:04

It's true. Yeah, I mean

1:34:06

it's gotta be hard to watch that one-on-one date

1:34:08

burning up But I would feel like as Leah

1:34:11

I may be guaranteeing myself an

1:34:13

actual one-on-one date. No, I was

1:34:15

in 100%

1:34:17

yeah. Yeah. Otherwise my one-on-one

1:34:19

date comes by stealing it which

1:34:21

is just a bad vibe for my month my

1:34:24

one-on-one date Yeah, you

1:34:26

don't want a one-on-one that you forced someone to

1:34:28

go like yeah It's like

1:34:30

so weird on any date You don't want to be

1:34:32

on a date that you had to trick

1:34:34

the other person into being on that's

1:34:36

not gonna be a such fun Date

1:34:39

surprise. It's me you wanted it to

1:34:41

be someone else. No Then

1:34:44

we see Lexi having her time with Joey.

1:34:46

She's like here's some stuff about me I'm

1:34:48

very down to earth and I've always played

1:34:50

sports it turns out the sport

1:34:53

she is referring to is golf, which I guess

1:34:55

is technically a sport and and

1:34:58

Joey says oh you're a golfer

1:35:00

in this way that made me

1:35:03

Think that he has very specific associations

1:35:05

with golfers like he seems very

1:35:08

struck by that. I Guess

1:35:10

that he also plays a country club sport.

1:35:12

Maybe they you know, they're all near there's a

1:35:15

clubhouse There's an aesthetic overlap in

1:35:17

some of the outfits for women on a tennis

1:35:19

court and on a golf course I've seen him

1:35:21

on a golf course I don't know if it

1:35:23

was for promo or with some of the other

1:35:25

boys But I think I've seen him on the

1:35:27

golf course. Maybe he just looks like he belongs

1:35:29

on one but Either

1:35:32

way, it's the bug it fits. It's yeah.

1:35:34

Yeah She

1:35:36

got him a ball marker so that he

1:35:38

can complete the golf course in with her

1:35:40

and her dad and brother they kiss feels

1:35:43

very drawn to her and And

1:35:47

Maria hears about this kiss Lexi

1:35:49

kind of a bit

1:35:51

more discreetly lets it slip

1:35:53

to Evelyn and Maria and Maria's

1:35:56

like asking her and she's like, oh, yeah, it

1:35:59

was just a little pass Just a little bit?

1:36:01

Nothing. She's kind of trying to demure a little bit.

1:36:03

And after this, Maria tells

1:36:06

Evelyn that she is not going to kiss

1:36:08

Joey tonight, because he's already kissing too many

1:36:10

girls. She wants to leave him wanting more.

1:36:12

She wants to be different. But

1:36:14

then she and Joey actually talk. And

1:36:17

when you talk to Joey, all

1:36:19

your resolutions about restraint, just like they fly

1:36:22

right out the window. She

1:36:25

very quickly gets kind of like the

1:36:27

clownish music, I noticed, because she starts

1:36:29

like teasing him for staring into her soul. And

1:36:31

they do like the quick switch of the music

1:36:34

to like the sort of thing. I was

1:36:36

like, yeah. Chill,

1:36:38

guys. She's being normal. I

1:36:40

thought this was like a very fun and natural

1:36:43

conversation, which is actually not the norm. I

1:36:46

loved it. And also, I can see getting a

1:36:48

little overwhelmed by Joey just

1:36:50

like staring directly into your

1:36:52

eyes. That's intense eye contact.

1:36:55

She reminds me of somebody. She kind

1:36:58

of reminds me almost a little bit

1:37:00

of Genevieve. But there is this constant

1:37:02

stream of consciousness in nervous

1:37:04

situations. We're like, OK, this is happening. Very

1:37:06

nice. I'm telling you literally everything that's in

1:37:08

my head. And there's something endearing about that,

1:37:10

which is what he picked up on. He's

1:37:12

like, she's going to keep me on my

1:37:14

toes. I feel like there

1:37:16

is always going to be this overwhelming, like, this

1:37:19

is what's going on. What are you doing? Yeah,

1:37:22

it was interesting to see. I thought it was so fun. It

1:37:24

was such a different energy than we're used

1:37:26

to in most of these interactions. We

1:37:28

do have a clip of a conversation

1:37:30

they have about their favorite movies. OK,

1:37:32

I actually have a couple questions for

1:37:34

you. Fine, what? So first and

1:37:36

foremost, do you like scary movies? I

1:37:39

do like scary movies. Because I

1:37:41

love horror. I love getting dressed

1:37:44

up. Because I was going to guess there's a sneaky

1:37:46

and sexy movie. It's like it's in me. I love

1:37:48

it. But yeah, no, I

1:37:50

have not dated anyone that likes it. I

1:37:52

like it. It's part of my checklist. OK,

1:37:55

give me your top three favorite movies. Such

1:37:58

a tough one. But first one. that

1:38:00

always comes to mind just because as

1:38:02

a kid I watch it probably a

1:38:04

thousand times is Remember the Titans. Excuse

1:38:06

me? We can have opinions

1:38:08

here. Okay but like I'm sure the Titans,

1:38:10

okay um have you ever watched

1:38:13

um The Wedding Singer? The Wedding Singer

1:38:15

in there and you're giving me it's

1:38:18

so playful also I was like you know

1:38:20

what Remember the Titans and The Wedding Singer

1:38:22

are both perfectly appropriate movies to

1:38:24

have in your top 10 lists.

1:38:27

It is funny that they're talking about horror and

1:38:29

then the first movies that they both

1:38:31

offer are like the furthest thing from

1:38:34

horror. They're like inspiring for so pathetic

1:38:36

anyway. And a rom-com. Also I was

1:38:39

dying because uh for anyone

1:38:43

who's forgotten ABC, Disney, same

1:38:45

company and they use this

1:38:47

opportunity to just have a little pop-up

1:38:49

appear on the side of the screen saying

1:38:51

Remember the Titans streaming now Disney Plus.

1:38:54

Oh my god that is

1:38:57

so true. I was like

1:38:59

integrated content yes cross-promotion. Yeah

1:39:01

they're like shop this episode

1:39:03

of The Bachelor. SpawnCon is

1:39:06

going so far. It's so yeah so

1:39:08

deep and then they run to wonder

1:39:10

like did they tell Joey like if

1:39:12

anyone asks you what movies you like

1:39:14

here is a library of Disney movies

1:39:16

that you are allowed to respond to.

1:39:18

They're like yeah there's an opportunity they're

1:39:21

gonna strike or maybe they this is

1:39:23

kind of thing they probably would have

1:39:25

just usually cut completely but they were

1:39:27

like branding offers some money. Else

1:39:29

it's like so what kind of car do you

1:39:32

drive? I'm glad you have. Hyundai. Oh

1:39:37

that'd be hilarious. In his in

1:39:39

the moment he calls her a firecracker with

1:39:41

swagger who will keep him on his toes.

1:39:43

I love that he's

1:39:45

like she has swagger. He really does. She

1:39:47

does. He's watching them.

1:39:50

He's observant. They talk uh

1:39:53

star signs. He says he's a cusp but

1:39:55

ultimately a Gemini and they agree the Geminis

1:39:57

have a bad rap. I agree

1:40:00

as a Gemini myself.

1:40:03

We are unfairly

1:40:06

looked down upon and I think Joey

1:40:08

and I are redeeming Geminis and the

1:40:10

public eye. You know he's

1:40:12

really doing some important, reparative work.

1:40:14

Yeah. The Gemini community. It really

1:40:17

is. They

1:40:19

agree to just be themselves together

1:40:22

and there's a fraught pause. The

1:40:25

sort of pause in which it is

1:40:27

inevitable that you will kiss. Like they're both clearly just

1:40:30

I need to kiss this person and they

1:40:32

finally lean in and have a little make

1:40:34

out session. And

1:40:37

then it's time for the first impression rose. One

1:40:40

of the women tells the others that if

1:40:42

they get it that's great because

1:40:44

it means they are very rememberable

1:40:46

which is so true. I think that's

1:40:49

the word we need and we should

1:40:51

keep using it even though it's not

1:40:53

real. Rememberable. Gosh.

1:40:57

Joey, it's like how you know how

1:40:59

you were memorable. You're

1:41:01

actually re-memorable.

1:41:04

Yeah. Rememberable. Okay. Able to

1:41:07

be remembered. Joey

1:41:09

is also very

1:41:12

overwhelmed by how many great women he's met.

1:41:14

He's like I want 10 first impression roses

1:41:16

and you know what it worked for Sean

1:41:18

Lowe. So why can't they give him 10

1:41:20

first impression roses? But he

1:41:22

only has one. He decides to give it to

1:41:24

someone he believes is there for the right reasons

1:41:27

and his characteristics he wants and his wife and

1:41:29

that person is Leah. So

1:41:32

like immediately it pays off.

1:41:34

Right. Yeah. Well well played

1:41:36

girl. Well done. You did

1:41:38

the right thing. I just I

1:41:41

love this for her. Good job Leah. I do. Evelyn

1:41:44

however has not gotten time with him and

1:41:46

so she is starting to break

1:41:48

down. It seems so rough to

1:41:51

be one of the women who just has

1:41:53

to stay up till 6 a.m. and doesn't even get to talk

1:41:55

to them. Yeah. You feel me like me. Yeah. That was you.

1:41:57