In this captivating episode of the LoveX2 podcast, Mike discusses the intricate relationship between culture and politics, emphasizing the importance of changing hearts and minds for true cultural change. Mike draws parallels between culture change and the dynamics of a river. Just as downstream changes are always determined by what occurs upstream, political change is heavily influenced by cultural shifts happening at the heart and mind level.

The discussion is interspersed with an intriguing story about camping along the Virgin River in Zion National Park, illustrating the powerful influences from upstream. The podcast emphasizes transformation begins with the Gospel of Jesus, flowing through to how we treat others.

Tune in as Mike delves deep into the importance of a Jesus-centered view on societal transformation, reminding you – just as with flash floods in rivers, there are always signs of imminent cultural change. Upstream always matters.