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Welcome to the Low Carb MD Podcast.

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we've always said, we're bringing you medical

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Please seek out input

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from your own doctor. Hello

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and welcome back to the Life's Best Medicine Podcast. And you know

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what? Let's do this for the Low Carb MD Podcast. I

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want to get this on both platforms because I

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just want to get attention to Grace Price. Welcome

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as our guest today. Thank

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you so much for having me. I'm super excited to be here. Gosh,

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you're kind of a phenom to me. I'm looking

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at you going, oh my gosh, are

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you still 17? I'm 18 now. Okay,

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18 now. Okay, okay. That's not so bad. You're a whole

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18. Now you're getting a lot older. But

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gosh, I just watched this documentary. It's

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so great. It's called Cancer of Foodborne

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Illness. Gosh,

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it's what you've done. You've interviewed some of

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the best out there. So

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let's start. Let's go all the way back. What

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made you get started looking into nutrition

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health? I know your grandfather

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passed away of cancer, right? Yeah,

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no. I mean, if

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I really go super far

1:18

back, it all started with

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me just having a ton

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of questions about the way

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that chronic diseases are treated

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in our current standard medicine

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system of today. And

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so I think I just, I

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guess I mean, my dad would probably say

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I'm not the type of person who just

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accepts no as an answer. And so when

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I was asking these questions like, so

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could I possibly prevent

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cancer through anything in my lifestyle, all these kinds of things, people

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just kept saying to me like, no, it's

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a genetic disease. It's out of control, all these

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things. And I was like, okay, well, that

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doesn't help me at all. And I just, if

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I'm being quite honest, I didn't really believe that. I

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was like, there must be more. And

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I kind of had that suspicion

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for a lot of chronic diseases

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as well, not just cancer. It

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felt as though that was kind

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of the main answer everyone was

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giving me that was hiding kind

2:14

of a deeper root cause issue

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because these diseases I had seen

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amongst my friends, amongst my parents

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and adults who I know in

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my life, I mean, declining health

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is something we're all struggling with.

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And it's bad now, like worse

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than it's arguably ever been specifically

2:32

with these chronic diseases. So I

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really, really felt very passionate about

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just looking into this. So

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it's kind of a new experience for

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me, just kind of diving headfirst into

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something that I had never familiarized myself

2:46

with other than the fact that my

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parents were very health aware when I

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was younger. So they showed me,

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I talked about this in my documentary, but

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they showed me a lot of films, one

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of them being fed up where it talks

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about sugar and sugar's impact on obesity. And

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so I was aware that there was sugar

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in the foods that we were eating and

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I liked to read nutritional labels as well

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for fun, which was a little weird. And

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so I was like, okay, maybe I can put this

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to good use. So

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I, you're age thinking about these things. Like, you

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know, I had zero clue about any of this

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stuff and you're right. And the same thing goes

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with diabetes and obesity. People, you know, doctors just

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say, well, that's just genetic and you're just going

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to get it tough luck type thing. You go,

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there's nothing I can do to prevent it. Yeah.

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No, for sure. And it, it feels kind

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of just like it,

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honestly, what I started to realize

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is it felt as though that

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was an answer that people were

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giving because they almost had less

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incentive to share another answer that

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might actually be more beneficial to

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people, or at least to the

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people who had the most money

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in the situation weren't prioritizing that

3:52

message. So yeah. And

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then we have to make lifestyle changes if we know

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that these things are affecting it. roulette

4:00

type thing. It's like when you realize, oh,

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if I eat these bad foods, it can

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affect my health outcomes. And now there's so

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much coming out with mental health and diabetes

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and metabolic health and cancer, you

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know? Yep. So

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exactly. So did your teachers, did

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you make them crazy in school? Or

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do they, do they encourage you to ask questions? Because, you

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know, a lot of times where I see in

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a lot of schools, it's just memorization, med

4:25

school, especially, where it's just memorization, you just

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learn and you, you, you spit back what

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they tell you. And then when you start

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saying, wait a minute, this doesn't make any

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sense. And then it becomes an issue. Has

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that been an issue? Or have your teachers

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been pretty helpful in getting you? I

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actually go to a very different school. It's

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called Alpha and it's in Austin. And I

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joined the school when I was in fifth

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grade. So I used to go to public

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school, then I came here and Alpha is

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honestly, I give like all of the credit

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to them when it comes to me being

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able to even produce my documentary and do

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all the things that I've been able to

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do today. They basically

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have taught all of the

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students that we are completely limitless by

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giving us a ton of time in

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the afternoons. If you're in the high

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school program, work on a super ambitious

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world-class level project. And

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so I, because I

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do my, we also do learning without

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teachers on AI apps in the morning.

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So they're very adaptive and we're all

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able to learn twice as fast as

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the average public school

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student. We then have this

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time in afternoon to do these crazy

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projects. So I decided freshman

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year that I wanted to basically, I was like,

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I want to try to see if I can

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find a cure for cancer or a way to

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prevent cancer at least. And it

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sounds kind of cliche, but I was

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like, why not? You know, that's kind

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of something that I'm very interested in.

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And so I talked to the head of

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our kind of program for

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this at our school and she was like, yeah,

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sounds good. What are you going to do to

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distribute it? And so it's It

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was really, really unique experience that I had, but

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it was 100% worth it and why I'm able

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to be where I am today. Is your school

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mostly for the arts or is it anything?

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Anything. Wow. Yeah.

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So, it's basically the

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way that the model was based

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off of is that Olympians

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are able to accomplish

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something that gives them. Basically,

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a 75% chance of

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getting into any top college that they

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want to get into. They stand out

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amongst all these other applicants who are

6:37

super well-rounded. And so, in

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the high school, we're obviously we're

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not all athletes. And

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so, for students who aren't going to

6:46

be an athlete, you can also just

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do an Olympic equivalent project and that

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gives you the same chances of

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kind of having that similar success. So,

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one example is my sister is creating a

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Broadway musical for teens by teens.

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And so, she's going to do a

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reading for that in New York soon. Another

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one of our really good friends

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is creating an online teen dating

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app that is safe because

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she has been giving relationship advice to

7:14

her friends and wants to help others

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and decided she also wanted to make

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money. And so, she started building that

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and putting that out there. And

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then, one of my friends has

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a newsletter that's amazing on alternative

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education. So, wide variety of projects

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here. Man, do you

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think this is the way forward for education then?

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I totally think so. Yeah, because a

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lot of us are so afraid of AI. So,

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for us old people, like how does the AI

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help you? Like, you're getting education through, like you

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start asking questions and you get responses back or

7:45

how does that AI work that you, I saw

7:47

you said you only like were in school for

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like two hours a day and the rest you're

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doing stuff you need other things to do like

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making movies that change the world and things like

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that. Yeah, I mean the AI

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is a personal. teacher,

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whatever you want to call it, that basically

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does its job better than a lot

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of people who are supposed to be

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teaching because it's just one on one,

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and it can give it to you

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in any way that makes the most

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sense for you. So I mean, super

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adaptive, very helpful. And at our school,

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I know AI is very controversial in

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school settings, because teachers are fearful that

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it's going to cause students to cheat

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or something like that. But at Alpha,

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we're told that if we're not using

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AI, we're falling behind. And that's honestly

8:31

kind of the truth when you look

8:33

at AI and its trajectory

8:35

for the future. I mean, if we

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don't start learning how to use it,

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then we're not going to know how

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when that starts to replace a lot

8:44

of super common jobs. So it's preparing

8:46

us to be able to bring our

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knowledge in how to properly use

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AI to whatever field we end

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up going into as adults. Did

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AI help you in making this movie? Totally.

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Yeah, I didn't know how to make

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a documentary. I helped to learn a

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lot from AI and obviously other research

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tools as well, but all of

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it helps. So yeah, huge help.

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Where do you get your boldness from? I

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would also say, probably,

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I guess I can

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give a little bit of credit to my parents, but

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also, my school has helped a ton with

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that too. I mean, I had to give public

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speeches as like a sixth

9:28

grader in front of all of my peers.

9:30

I actually gave one on how much sugar

9:32

is in Coca-Cola when I was in sixth

9:34

grade. And I went up and measured it

9:36

in front of everyone and everyone hated me.

9:38

They were like, what is she

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doing? This is our favorite. You're kidding

9:43

me, Grace. I was like, Hey, guys,

9:45

I'm just the delivery. I'm

9:47

just the messenger here. Yeah, that's what you know, my

9:49

page is looking at me too. Like, what do you

9:51

mean bread has sugar? And it does. What about this?

9:53

Yeah, it does, too. And it's hard because no one

9:55

wants to hear it. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah. And it's

9:58

hard because then we have to make that ourselves

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and go, okay, I'm not gonna eat certain

10:02

things. And like you went through how they

10:04

bleached the flour and all that with Clorox,

10:06

you know, bleached gas and stuff. It's like,

10:08

wow. Ridiculous, yeah. It's like, what's,

10:10

how is this legal? Yeah,

10:14

and you know, when I asked you about your boldness

10:16

at the very beginning of the documentary, everyone, by the

10:18

way, go watch this. It's definitely worth your time. It

10:20

was amazing. I was actually surprised. Like, oh, let's, I'll

10:22

just watch it and see. But I was like, man,

10:24

this is pretty dang good. At

10:27

the beginning, you're in front of a food company and you

10:29

wanna ask people questions that no one really wanted to talk

10:31

to you. Yes, no,

10:34

I went up to so many people. Those were just the

10:36

two that we caught on camera. And every

10:38

single time the employees had no interest.

10:40

And I was asking some pretty simple

10:42

questions. I mean, if you work for

10:44

one of these fast food companies or

10:47

stuff like that, and you're in a

10:49

higher up position, you would expect that

10:51

they'd at least be willing to kind

10:53

of interact with a, I'm a kid.

10:55

I'm not like an adult coming after

10:57

them being like, hey,

10:59

you know, you are ruining our

11:02

entire country. Even though, I mean, they are in a

11:04

sense. But I was just like, hey, I'm a

11:06

team. I was curious if you're aware that

11:08

your foods are poisoning my generation and

11:11

no response every

11:13

single time. And then I ended up getting kicked

11:15

out. But it was a great experience because it

11:17

just goes to show that, I mean, no

11:20

one is really willing to talk about

11:22

this right now. So it's something that

11:24

we need to force into the mainstream

11:26

conversation. Then you jumped into like,

11:28

you know, who's funding the ADA. All these

11:30

things we've been kind of seeing and talking

11:33

about and you go, gosh, these are, they're

11:35

supposed to be our advocates for people with

11:37

diabetes or heart disease. And you look at

11:39

where their funding is coming from. And you

11:41

know, even if there's nothing bad going on,

11:43

you're like, at least it's a perception of,

11:47

you know, money talks basically. Precisely.

11:50

And it's, if you're accepting

11:52

a $1.9 million fund from

11:56

Coca-Cola or these other big food conglomerates,

11:59

it's... still affects

12:01

you, even if you say, oh, you

12:03

know, we're trying not to be biased. It

12:06

definitely has an effect. And so

12:08

it's like, it's just unethical. But

12:10

I was shocked when I learned

12:12

these kinds of things that our

12:14

most well-respected national health organizations were

12:16

accepting funds from these places that

12:19

have showed very strong ties to

12:21

the very foods that are causing

12:23

these diseases they're trying to prevent.

12:26

So it's crazy to me,

12:28

it's very backwards. And

12:30

I didn't even realize that Coke was donating money to

12:33

the American Cancer Society and all these kinds of things.

12:35

And you go, man, when you're donating

12:37

money, there's a reason for that, right? It's not

12:39

just out of the kindness of your heart to

12:41

find the cures, like saying, okay, you know, we're

12:43

gonna tell you what to say to educate people

12:46

and say, you know, just do it in moderation,

12:48

it's fine. Eat all this terrible stuff. And instead

12:50

of saying, you know, this is just not good.

12:53

Exactly. And the whole idea of saying

12:55

things are okay in moderation

12:57

too is the biggest excuse I've

13:00

ever heard to just

13:02

eat more of the addictive poisonous

13:04

foods. Well, and that's the problem

13:06

is no one says, hey, if you're an alcoholic, just

13:08

drink in moderation because you can't- No, no one says

13:10

that. Exactly. And that's what we're dealing with is, you

13:12

know, in the kids, like we grow up and, you

13:14

know, even during COVID, I noticed a lot of the

13:16

adults, they were going back to eating their honey and

13:19

their Cheerios and this Lucky Charms that you even talked

13:21

about in the movie, you know, and you go, that's

13:24

probably not the best coping mechanism because they remember

13:26

they ate their cereal in the morning and watched

13:28

cartoons and that was everything was calm and peaceful.

13:30

They didn't have to make life decisions at that

13:32

time, you know? Exactly. Even

13:35

smoking. And that's why in my documentary,

13:37

I really tried to highlight that ultra

13:40

processed foods, you know, with

13:42

chemical additives, preservatives, excessive amounts of

13:44

refined sugars and seed oils, even

13:47

all these different things that we're

13:49

researching in nutrition right now, those

13:53

foods are honestly the

13:55

new version of cigarettes when

13:57

it comes to cancer and these other diseases.

14:00

We don't have the same kind of stigma

14:02

around them yet. And so people think

14:04

it's fine in moderation. They think it's

14:06

all a balancing act. But just as

14:08

you said with alcohol, no one would

14:10

ever say to a smoker, it's totally

14:12

fine if you're balancing the cigarettes

14:14

with also, you know, you're getting

14:16

some good sleep. It's okay to

14:18

do it all. No one does that

14:21

because everyone knows, no cigarettes have a

14:23

near link to cancer. And it's just,

14:25

it's just true. And most people wouldn't

14:27

argue with that. And

14:30

you also talked about epigenetics. I was like,

14:32

wow, like I had never even heard of

14:34

epigenetics. I was probably 46 years old or

14:36

something. And so it sounds like your dad

14:39

has some background, maybe in nutrition or understanding

14:41

life, or is it just

14:43

something he became interested in? And then he passed

14:45

that along to you. Yeah, honestly,

14:47

it's very funny that you said that

14:50

because my dad, he, I

14:52

mean, so he graduated with

14:54

his degree in engineering and

14:56

computer software, but he is

14:58

the best researcher I've ever

15:00

met. And so he's really

15:02

inspired me to dive deeper

15:05

than I've ever thought, you know, he's the kind

15:07

of dad where I bring him one thing and

15:09

he's like, you didn't go deep enough. And he

15:11

tells me what he's learned. And I'm like, okay,

15:13

I'll go back to it and keep reading more

15:16

and more. And so he's always been reading these

15:18

health books and keeping up with the latest trends

15:20

and same with my mom, except my mom's a

15:22

little bit more into the fitness side of all

15:25

of it, but they both have kind of influenced

15:27

me on a super deep level when it's come to

15:30

that. And once my dad told me about epigenetics and

15:32

I read the books, he's always handing me stuff to

15:34

read, I just was mind

15:36

blown because it kind of satisfied also

15:38

a suspicion that I had, because in

15:40

high school, you know, in your typical

15:43

biology class, I had taken AP biology

15:45

the year before and they were like,

15:47

you know, it's all about DNA. This

15:49

is the most important thing. It's what's

15:51

causing a lot of these diseases. They

15:54

gave me the typical somatic

15:56

mutation theory around the origin

15:58

of cancer, all these kinds of things. of things. You

16:00

know, they explain these to you and you're

16:03

like, this is just the way it is.

16:05

But epigenetics was like, well, no, there's actually

16:07

a huge impact that our lifestyle has on

16:10

the smallest thing in ourselves by

16:12

causing certain genes to be either

16:15

expressed or suppressed, which totally

16:17

fascinated me. And especially the fact that

16:20

food has been shown to have a

16:22

huge connection to this through all of

16:24

these different pathways. So yeah, it was

16:26

very interesting to me. Yeah,

16:29

and stress and sleep and smoking, all these

16:31

other factors have a huge role in what

16:33

we're getting in. And like, Callie Means was

16:35

talking about on your documentary was like, you

16:37

know, you don't wait till someone blows up

16:39

your engine and then say, which chains the

16:41

oil now. So

16:44

we put all of our money into treatment

16:47

rather than prevention. And that's what's

16:49

crazy about medicine everywhere you look.

16:52

Doctors say we're into preventive medicine, but you're

16:55

looking like, are you? Because you're not even

16:57

checking the important factors that really have to

16:59

do with like metabolic health, right? And we

17:01

get back to the mitochondria. And

17:04

that was a good part of your show too, is talking about the

17:07

seed oils and all these other factors that we don't

17:09

think about. And, you know, it may be in the

17:11

low carb community, a lot of times I'll say this

17:13

is a keto food, you look at it like, oh,

17:15

it's all these bad oils in it. That's not keto

17:18

at all. No, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Even the

17:20

keto foods. It's crazy too. Because I

17:22

mean, I've observed that doctors, like you

17:24

said, when they say that they're being

17:27

preventative, in their minds, that's

17:29

basically saying, okay, you have prediabetes.

17:31

And that's not helping. Prediabetes

17:35

is almost on the verge of diabetes.

17:37

It's not like there's a magical switch

17:39

when you get over to diabetes, you're

17:41

at just a less intense, poor metabolic

17:43

health state, and you need to reverse

17:46

that. And so it's like, it's not,

17:48

it's just, it's not working. We need

17:50

to fix it somehow. Yeah. And

17:52

one of our, one of our best markers for that is

17:54

a fasting insulin to see, are you getting

17:56

prediabetic or insulin is going up? Because that three

17:58

months sugar average could stay for a long time and

18:00

that's an arbitrary cut off that we use. Yeah.

18:03

You know, I'm talking to someone who knows more about this stuff

18:05

than me. It's starting to scare me. You

18:07

know, what's going to happen? You're my age.

18:09

Holy cow. But that's the exciting thing is

18:11

that people when young people get it and

18:13

they go, okay, let me look into this.

18:15

And one of the things I've hated over

18:17

the last four years or so is so

18:19

many times I see the media saying, don't

18:21

do your own research. It's dangerous. Right. Oh

18:24

my gosh. Yeah. No, it's it's

18:26

ridiculous. That's one of the reasons why I actually,

18:29

I recently committed

18:31

to a brand new school

18:33

for college that opened in

18:36

Austin called University of Austin,

18:38

Texas. And they're committed to

18:40

basically preserving freedom of speech,

18:42

freedom of thought and the pursuit of truth. And

18:45

so I was so excited to go there

18:48

because I mean, I I've

18:50

been told by all these people, you know, they're like, don't

18:53

trust the science, all these kinds of

18:55

or trust the science. And

18:57

like there's these conflicting viewpoints where they're like,

18:59

you can research this, but you can't research

19:01

this. And I'm like, why can't we just

19:04

see it all and then weigh whatever seems

19:06

to be a common thread through it? And

19:08

so I think that going to this new

19:10

school will be really awesome to continue to

19:13

push me towards that because that is definitely

19:15

what I'm looking. I just want to try

19:17

to find some sort of consensus, you know,

19:20

that's so critical. I'm so glad you bring that

19:22

up because censorship becomes a big issue in medicine.

19:24

It's been a huge issue because if you question

19:26

stuff, you go, I don't think we're managing diabetes,

19:28

right? And they go, you're fanatical, you're on the

19:30

fringe. It's like, well, what you're doing is

19:32

not working. So we got to look at the whole picture. Right.

19:34

So what's the problem of here? Like in a trial, they

19:36

don't say we're only going to hear the prosecution side because

19:39

the other side is going to hurt your feelings. You go,

19:41

hey, we'll get we'll probably evidence out there and let me

19:43

decide. Right. As the jury. Yeah,

19:46

no, it's it's crazy. And I

19:49

mean, I that's one of the reasons why

19:51

I released the documentary on X because I

19:53

was super concerned that if I released it

19:55

on other platforms, I'd totally get censored or

19:58

people would be like, this is is

20:00

where they put the little tagline and

20:02

they're like, disclaimer, this is nutritional misinformation

20:05

or something. And I think that Elon's

20:07

done a great job of creating a

20:09

platform that people seriously feel comfortable just

20:11

sharing things that they've learned on. And

20:14

of course, none of us are always

20:16

gonna be right all the time. I love all of

20:18

the feedback that I get on X as well. And

20:20

I think it's great, but that's the only way we

20:22

can actually improve and learn something if we get that

20:24

kind of feedback. Have you had hard

20:26

feedback? I've definitely gotten

20:28

some. And a lot of it I think is great

20:30

too. I mean, I always like

20:32

to take it and respond, especially in DMs.

20:34

And though I'm some hate too, but most

20:37

of the time it's comments like, oh,

20:39

you know, your eyebrows are stupid or something.

20:41

Yeah, of course. Yeah, stuff like that has

20:43

nothing to do with the content and

20:46

that's a sign of the times. And I've seen

20:48

that so much. I see someone lose 100 pounds

20:50

and people go, look at all that loose skin.

20:52

It's like, that was 100 pounds. Yeah,

20:54

that's what you're gonna point out right now. But

20:57

that may be a mindset if people are just

20:59

so negative and beat down and they think everyone,

21:02

I don't know, I don't know why the nastiness is out

21:04

there, but it is. It

21:06

is, yeah. It's very

21:08

strange, but. But most people

21:10

like yourself who are creating and you're doing stuff with

21:12

your life, you don't really have to tear down other

21:14

people. You do what you do. Yeah,

21:17

exactly. So what

21:19

was the hardest part about making this documentary?

21:22

Was there something that was the most challenging

21:24

to you? You

21:27

know, I'd probably say the editing process

21:29

just because I've never done it before

21:32

and I'm sure any kind of filmmaker

21:34

could also agree with me that when you

21:37

get in the last stages of editing, it's

21:39

just, oh, it's so brutal. Cause you're

21:41

trying to rethink things and you're like, does

21:43

this flow right? And the minute you cut

21:46

one thing out, it offsets the entire film.

21:48

Then you've got to readjust again. And I

21:50

mean, the film used to be around like

21:52

40 minutes and I cut it down to 23.

21:56

I'm very happy with where

21:58

it is now. think that

22:00

we just kept all the most

22:02

important, exciting parts that are in

22:04

there. And that's kind

22:06

of where I wanted it to be. But

22:09

I learned so much from the whole process.

22:11

And I think that just the skill set

22:13

of being able to produce the film is

22:15

like super important, because I would totally create

22:17

another documentary on another deep dive that I

22:19

do later in life. So do

22:22

you have anything on your radar? That you

22:24

that's your next topic that you want to talk about? Or is

22:26

this kind of your topic? Or what do you think? I

22:28

mean, I think right now, I feel very

22:30

lucky, because I feel as

22:32

though this is kind of what

22:35

I want to continue to pursue,

22:37

at least throughout college and into

22:39

most of my adulthood, because I

22:41

feel very committed to the issue

22:43

itself, and specifically advocating for my

22:45

generation. I just think when I

22:47

see what kids are eating every

22:49

day, it makes me feel so

22:51

frustrated. Because I know that,

22:54

one, most of the time, they're not as aware.

22:57

And two, they're the number

22:59

one target of all of these

23:01

big food conglomerates, because they're the ones who

23:03

are buying all of this crap, and they're

23:05

okay with it. And it's like a trend

23:07

to go get this stuff. It's a trend

23:09

to go get your Starbucks in the morning.

23:11

It's a trend to, you know, have your

23:13

favorite chips after school, go to the vending

23:15

machine, you know, everything that you're served at

23:17

school is awful and completely controlled just by

23:19

the FDA. And so it's like, yeah, all

23:21

of this stuff, it really, really bothers me.

23:23

And I don't think that I'm ever

23:26

going to really be able to sit

23:28

still knowing that that is going on.

23:30

And I could do something about it.

23:32

So I'm going to just continue to

23:34

advocate for teens, I do plan on

23:37

creating these are kind of

23:39

ideas that I've been playing around

23:41

with, but creating some kind of

23:44

global competition and incentivize teens to

23:47

basically reduce their sugar intake. Because for me,

23:49

when I just see sugar, that's kind of

23:51

the number one thing, sugar and fast food,

23:53

of course, you got all the bad oils

23:56

and also you have a lot of Dyes

23:59

and chemical additives. the number but

24:01

with sugar any we've seen with

24:03

cancer from all the way from

24:05

Auto Warburg for to see free

24:07

work today and there's a clear

24:09

connection and whether it's even just

24:11

Glucose through driving Hyper and Fellini

24:13

I you know and all of

24:15

these other kind of factors that

24:17

than we can proliferation or fruit

24:19

Coast which we seen a lot

24:21

of studies now leads and metastasis

24:23

armor either directly through the same

24:25

hyper and selenium or indirectly just

24:27

through creating energy and businesses in

24:29

the school. Because it depletes a T

24:31

p It's like it at those. Such

24:33

a clear connection that I'm like I'd

24:35

have to keep going after this. in

24:38

my friends and I you seats so

24:40

much sugar and I'm telling you, Brian,

24:42

I really did not understand how deep

24:44

the effect was. I thought maybe you

24:46

know it would cause me to gain

24:48

a little the way maybe it would

24:50

give me some ask me split daddy

24:53

kids to realize that. This is

24:55

gonna cause you to die early to

24:57

be miserable for most of the later

24:59

years of your life, and was even

25:01

worse than their grandparents and teams when

25:03

I share that with my friend. bigger

25:05

really freaked out could speed seen how

25:07

sick their grandparents were in the last

25:09

stages of their life and they're like

25:11

i don't want to be like that

25:13

and with the current stats, it's looking

25:15

like we're going to be like that

25:18

even younger. So it's yeah, it's an

25:20

urgent issue and I'm just gonna keep

25:22

going after it. Would

25:24

talk him about the chronic disease or sing and younger

25:26

and younger people on. see people come in with stuff

25:28

Go Wow! This is like. As. A

25:30

citizens of people are asian hours

25:32

or another like thirties and twenties.

25:35

Know it's crazy. It's that, even.

25:38

Yeah, Cancer. You know it

25:40

risen by a present. the past three

25:42

decades so people under the age of

25:44

fifty and i i don't think people

25:46

also comprehend that this is young adults

25:48

with these are literally kids in college

25:50

who are getting diagnosed with colon cancer

25:52

pancreatic cancer he like what is going

25:54

on and i think it's also very

25:56

interesting that no one likes to point

25:58

out that the cancer that are being

26:00

diagnosed in these people at younger ages are

26:03

cancers that we've also done a lot of

26:05

research that are connected to chronic inflammation, the

26:07

gut microbiome, all these things that we've seen

26:09

ties with food. It's just, it all seems

26:12

to work together in my mind

26:14

from the stuff that I've read. And so I'm

26:16

like, what, how do we get more people talking

26:18

about this? Cause it needs to be talked about.

26:20

It is amazing thing how, you know, things that

26:23

you're looking at are things that I've never liked

26:25

for years and years and never even thought

26:27

about the gut microbiome, leaky gut, all these

26:29

things and the association with autoimmune disease and

26:31

inflammation. And so I actually gave

26:34

a talk on low carb stuff, but then

26:36

two minutes of it, I talked to them about how

26:39

this can affect the gut microbiome. And I had a

26:41

well-known doctor come up to me and go, Brian, you

26:43

can't talk about this. There's no science behind it. And

26:45

I was like, wait a minute. I read 60 studies,

26:47

60, 60 studies, just looking

26:49

at this. And like you're saying, I

26:51

mean, I was laughing when you were talking about it. Cause if I give

26:53

a talk, if I'm talking

26:55

about sleep deprivation, the effects on physiology or something

26:58

like that, or on insulin, those kinds of things.

27:00

And there's so much information and having to edit

27:02

it down, go, okay, I'm not going to talk

27:04

about this is a great study, but

27:06

I can't put you, cause I can't get into a 45

27:08

minute talk, you know? And so sometimes when you have to

27:10

edit things down, it's so hard to go, Oh, this is

27:12

such an important point, but okay, this is more important. And

27:14

when you have to weigh those things down and whittle it

27:17

down to where people can focus for,

27:19

you know, 45 minutes or so. Yeah,

27:21

no, exactly. And it's like, how

27:23

do we even get people to listen to the

27:25

message? Because a lot of it, I think that

27:28

what's tough too is when people hear the current

27:31

nutritional information, they get really confused

27:34

and don't really like to interact

27:36

with it because there's just so

27:38

much conflicting stuff in it. You

27:41

have what these big health

27:43

organizations are incentivized to say,

27:46

and what a lot of the health

27:48

information has been for the past 50

27:51

years. I mean, we saw that literally

27:53

the earliest form of the sugar industry

27:55

funded studies and

27:58

Harvard professors. to go and blame

28:01

fat and cholesterol as the number one

28:03

cause of coronary heart disease instead of

28:05

sugar, because they knew that that was

28:07

gonna decrease their sales. So that's something

28:09

we believe for the past 50 years.

28:13

And so you have that versus people

28:15

saying, go on the ketogenic diet, sugar

28:17

is bad, low carb is how you

28:19

can actually improve your health. So

28:21

they're like, what is happening? And it's so hard

28:23

to fight against those two, but it's like, we

28:26

have to figure out a way to

28:28

somehow rise above what

28:30

everyone believes and doesn't even know why

28:32

they believe it. Well, that's

28:34

such a huge point is saying, okay, look, let's figure this

28:37

out because there's different thoughts of

28:39

how you do it. And since your brain

28:41

is better than mine, probably, you start thinking

28:43

about how do we best do that? Is

28:45

it educating the people and the young

28:47

people now and just going, look, here's what's

28:50

gonna happen down the road? Or

28:52

is it, like Dr. Lester, who

28:54

was the first one I heard talking about fructose, he

28:57

was saying, hey, he wants to tax it. And you go, okay,

28:59

then they're gonna say, okay, meat's bad for you, we're gonna tax

29:01

meat, and we're gonna tax eggs because there's cholesterol, and we're gonna

29:04

tax. So then we just tax everything, and you

29:06

still don't make any progress. And

29:10

you go, okay, how do we be reasonable about it? Like we

29:12

all wanna be healthy. So you go, what's

29:14

my best way of achieving that? Yeah,

29:17

no, totally. And it's like, if you don't

29:19

change the main health narrative, then like you

29:21

said, they're just gonna start applying the same

29:23

thing to these other foods that we're like, we

29:25

do not want that. We

29:28

want more eggs. We want all of

29:30

these kinds of animal fats and meats

29:32

and proteins. It's like, we need that.

29:34

So yeah, I mean, I really

29:37

think it comes down to simplifying the

29:39

message and meeting people where they're at

29:41

too. Not coming off as, I mean,

29:44

one thing that I have really been

29:46

looking into recently is the teen obesity

29:48

epidemic we've kind of been having in our country. And

29:51

it's hard to talk about, especially

29:53

just in social situations, because obesity

29:55

is such a controversial topic

29:57

right now, because people... People

30:00

are trying to normalize it. They're

30:02

trying to say that it's offensive

30:04

to say someone is obese or

30:06

even say someone has obesity. And

30:11

I personally think we should

30:13

not normalize

30:15

something that is just a

30:17

description of someone who

30:20

is struggling with their metabolic health

30:22

in a sense. I

30:24

don't think that that's something that we

30:26

should say is okay. And I definitely

30:28

don't think that we should normalize it

30:30

in teenagers because that's just offsetting their

30:33

entire future. Because obesity is projected to

30:35

replace smoking as the number one preventable

30:37

cause of cancer. Obesity

30:39

is ties, we all know, to type 2

30:41

diabetes, all of these other kinds of things.

30:43

And I'm just like, I

30:46

have no hate towards any kinds of

30:48

people. And I don't think judgment is the

30:50

answer. I think that we should always approach

30:52

other people with love, but I don't think

30:54

that you're loving someone. If you're

30:56

not helping them by helping them get

30:59

healthier and better. And it's definitely a

31:01

tough topic to talk about. And I

31:03

definitely struggle trying to think of how

31:05

to best communicate it. But I

31:07

mean, when adults are the ones who are

31:09

pushing this on teens, that bothers

31:12

me, especially when they're saying, okay,

31:14

just take Ozempic. And yes,

31:16

Ozempic in some cases, I think is

31:18

better than bariatric surgery and these other

31:21

things. But it's also like, why don't we

31:23

talk about food first? Why

31:25

don't we talk to our kids about that first? And

31:28

parents are okay with their teens doing these things.

31:30

And it just, it really, really

31:32

frustrates me. Yeah, the whole approach

31:34

to it. Yeah, it's a hard balance. I think we have

31:36

to have compassion. We all struggle. We all have our shortcomings.

31:38

And I think it's the same way I would look at

31:41

smoking. Like you don't glorify smoking when

31:43

you know there's consequences of that. You don't go,

31:45

this is great. Everyone should smoke. You say, well,

31:47

can we cut down from a pack a day

31:49

to half a pack? Would that work for you?

31:51

And like, what can we do to get started

31:53

on the road to being better? You know, and

31:55

the dose is the poison to some degree, but

31:57

then the big problem that we're in this, I think,

31:59

is... nutrition and

32:01

lifestyle and all these things is look if

32:04

someone is addicted to something if we have highly

32:06

addictive foods you can't tell them to do it

32:08

in moderation when they can other people can if

32:10

you're in metal broccoli healthy go yeah I have

32:12

half a cupcake yeah

32:15

and it's different than someone who goes I have

32:17

half a cupcake and I end up in the

32:19

gutter eating all the cookies in the world right

32:21

now and so people don't realize that there's true

32:23

addiction but also that when you

32:25

glorify and say it's great and you know

32:28

and and you know I'm seeing it being glorified more

32:30

rather than saying hey we're gonna love you and we're

32:32

gonna help you to try to get a little bit

32:34

healthier you know exactly totally a

32:37

strange kind of glorifying of it yeah

32:39

one especially when you're seeing young people with

32:41

these chronic inflammatory diseases and I really do

32:44

think our mental health struggles that we're at

32:46

an epidemic of mental health crisis right now

32:48

and especially in young people with suicide and

32:50

you know drug abuse and all these things

32:52

and you can say well once

32:55

if you're nutrition and your exercise in your sleep

32:57

and all these things get better does it make

32:59

you less likely to need those things to cope

33:01

with life? Yeah I mean

33:03

this whole mental health awareness thing

33:05

I mean yeah it's good but I mean

33:07

I'm a fan of Dr.

33:09

Chris Palmer so I love his work. Yeah

33:11

me too. Why are we not spreading

33:13

metabolic health awareness? We

33:16

keep separating the brain from our body

33:18

but I mean there's so much research

33:20

on I read one study

33:22

that blew my mind recently was on

33:25

the offspring of mice and

33:27

it showed that when you

33:30

fed them reheated seed oils

33:32

they basically had visible neurodegeneration

33:35

and that was crazy to

33:37

me and we've also seen

33:39

past studies that show these

33:42

reheated oils you know are connected to

33:44

anxiety and these other kinds of illnesses it's

33:46

like it's not just a separate thing and

33:49

I mean teens are handed out SSRIs and

33:51

all these kinds of things just like it's

33:53

candy we're like yeah oh yeah

33:55

you have ADHD you have a lot

33:57

let me just give you this and let's be

33:59

done here. here instead of let's see what you're

34:02

eating every day. I bet you're going to bed

34:04

at 12 PM on TikTok.

34:06

Like let's fix some habits here, you

34:08

know? And it's not like adults

34:10

aren't aware of that too. I mean, what do

34:12

you think Brian? I feel like most adults know

34:15

that teens are struggling. Yeah,

34:18

it's a crazy thing. It's almost like we're, we

34:20

have our head in the sand or we don't

34:22

see it. I mean, as a doctor, I see

34:24

it all. So most people just don't realize like

34:26

the huge effects. And I think

34:28

the bigger thing for me, you know,

34:30

Hal Cranmer is a friend of mine

34:32

down here in Arizona and he's

34:34

doing stuff with seniors and he's taking seniors with

34:37

advanced dementia and he's changing their lifestyle, getting them

34:39

on a nutrition diet rather than like you talked

34:41

about in the show, they're putting them on, you

34:43

know, seed oil and sugar and think that's going

34:45

to help our seniors get better. And

34:47

when they change their diet, they use health code,

34:49

which is a, you know, one of the sponsors

34:51

of my Life's Best Medicine podcast. And

34:54

they're showing huge improvements in these seniors because

34:56

they want that sweet taste because that's what

34:58

they're, what's ingrained in. And we have

35:00

studies showing that people with dementia crave sugar like

35:02

crazy. Like if you give them a ton of

35:04

foods, they'll take the sugary foods because they're trying

35:06

to get their brains to work. It's a last ditch

35:08

effort to try to really raise those sugars to get

35:10

to the brain. But once you run on ketones,

35:13

once you've run on a different fuel source, does

35:15

that help the brain to function better and decrease

35:17

inflammation in the brain? And, you know, just going

35:19

back to the stuff like the nastiness we see

35:21

on social media, you know, where they don't like

35:23

your eyebrows, right? They don't care about the content

35:25

of what you're saying. It's just ridiculous. But

35:29

you see how many of those people, their brains are

35:31

just fried because they're having these mood swings up and

35:33

down with sugars and hormones and cortisol and all this

35:35

kind of stuff. Yep, no glucose spikes

35:37

every single day, first thing in the

35:39

morning. Yeah, and I also have been

35:42

kind of thinking on, I really want

35:44

to get teens excited about

35:46

things like the low carb diet, ketogenic

35:48

diet, these things that just will increase

35:50

their productivity, even if they're not interested

35:53

in the health benefits, like you said,

35:55

getting on ketones, I personally am on

35:57

the ketogenic diet and it... has

36:00

improved my focus

36:03

so much. Like it's insane. And even

36:05

just the occasional intermittent testing, it

36:08

helps me so much. And so, yeah,

36:10

I really think getting teens to

36:12

whether it be like wear glucose

36:15

mongers that we have a lot

36:17

of now, or measure their ketones,

36:19

like that's kind of exciting, cool

36:21

stuff. If they're interested in, okay,

36:23

how can I really set myself

36:25

up best to ace my test

36:27

tomorrow? Or how can I go

36:29

best today at my track tournament?

36:32

These typical high school experiences can

36:34

be enhanced by committing

36:36

to eating healthier. No doubt

36:38

about it. You know, we see athletes and when they eat

36:40

healthy and they take care of themselves and they get their

36:42

sleep, they do better. If they're all partying till three in

36:44

the morning, then they want to perform the next day. It's

36:47

not, it's going to affect performance. Same

36:49

in school and so many kids are diagnosed

36:51

with ADD, because

36:53

they can't pay attention. How much of

36:55

that nutrition lifestyle stressed out

36:57

at home? Parents are

37:00

divorced and conflict, all

37:03

these things that we're seeing. And so that's over

37:05

the last year and a half or so, I've

37:07

really focused on the effects of stress on everything.

37:11

Cancer, on diabetes risk and all these

37:13

things and mental health issues. And so

37:15

it's all a big picture.

37:18

So at least five big things,

37:20

what can we adjust in ourselves to make ourselves?

37:22

Some people don't struggle with sleep, but they struggle with

37:24

whatever, you know, substance abuse or, you know, so

37:26

it's trying to figure out how do I

37:29

best manage what we have to

37:31

work with basically. Totally. So

37:34

what's your passion now? What do

37:36

you think? Like going to college, you're getting ready for college

37:38

and all that kind of stuff. I mean, do you want

37:40

to, is your area like film

37:44

and editing and all this kind of stuff? Or was

37:46

that just a means to get your message out? I

37:49

think it was just a means to get

37:51

my message out, but I'm definitely interested in

37:54

continuing to pursue it to keep getting the

37:56

same message out. And like I said earlier,

37:58

I mean, I'm on a mission. And

38:00

I really want to see the

38:03

curve of cancer cases flatten by

38:05

2040. Like that is

38:07

my goal. And I think the way

38:09

to get there is by helping my

38:11

generation. And so I plan to just

38:13

keep going after that and keep learning

38:15

and growing and researching. And

38:17

I mean, I love biochemistry, like everything

38:20

about it is so, so fascinating to

38:22

me. So learning more about

38:24

that in college. Yeah.

38:26

And just continuing to get this

38:29

message out until we see some change.

38:31

So I definitely will keep you in the loop.

38:34

Yeah. I mean, are you considering medicine as

38:36

a career or is that is that not

38:38

really on your radar or are

38:40

you more on the creative side? You

38:42

know, everyone asks me that. And

38:44

it's funny because maybe I would

38:46

say before my whole journey

38:49

of how I got here, I would say

38:51

yes to that, except now that I've spoken

38:53

to so many doctors who have told me

38:56

like, oh, what I learned in

38:58

med school did not help me with what

39:00

I'm trying to teach now about, you know,

39:02

how to actually have good metabolic health and

39:04

stuff like that. And the fact that I've

39:06

also read, you know, that it's crazy how

39:08

little time they spend just talking about nutrition,

39:10

like two to 11 hours a day. These

39:13

crazy numbers like that, where I'm

39:15

just like, I'm a little concerned

39:17

that I would not be very

39:19

in alignment with what they're teaching

39:22

me. Although I love the idea

39:24

of continuing to refine and learn

39:26

more on the health side

39:28

of things, just kind of what I

39:31

think standard medicine stands for. I think

39:33

I'm a little bit on the opposite

39:35

spectrum now. Yeah, I totally

39:37

get it. And like someone like you, I know

39:40

how it was in residency, when people ask questions,

39:42

the professor didn't like that. The doctor's doing rounds

39:44

ago. Why don't you just do it this way?

39:46

No, no, no, it's done this way. And it's

39:48

just medicine is such a hand me down. Yeah,

39:51

in that this is what we've always done. This is

39:53

what we're going to do. And there's the people who

39:55

like you question go, wait, this doesn't make sense. We're

39:57

giving people a kind of sugar and then we're. them

40:00

insulin to get rid of the sugar we're giving and then

40:02

does that make sense to you? And they go, yeah, that's

40:04

how you do it. That's how it works. And like, well,

40:06

it doesn't make sense. Does it? Like, if you're allergic to

40:08

peanuts, I don't give you a bunch of peanuts and they

40:10

give you the antihistamines. So you don't get it. I just

40:12

go donate peanuts if you're allergic to it. So

40:14

it's just amazing when someone thinks logically

40:17

how, and that's a sad part. I

40:19

think my fear of AI is that

40:21

is that so many doctors will just type in and

40:23

they lose that personal touch

40:25

and they become a computer now

40:27

just saying, okay, here's your diagnosis. Like, okay, how

40:29

do we prevent this from happening? How do we

40:31

fix this problem? No,

40:33

continuing to learn how to think critically

40:36

is super important. And I think that the

40:38

people who are using AI the best right

40:40

now are the people who are most familiar

40:42

with how to use it as a resource

40:45

to accelerate them in whatever they're doing, but

40:47

not use it as a means to just

40:49

all of their knowledge, you know, like having

40:52

it all come from that. I mean, we

40:54

were taught in school how to fact check

40:56

AI and go back and forth to chat

40:58

GPT, refine your prompt, you know, do all

41:01

these kinds of things. Cause it is a

41:03

super powerful tool that I think

41:05

a lot of people, it's important that we

41:07

know how to use, but even what

41:10

you were saying about what, how we treat chronic

41:12

diseases, it's crazy to me. Cause I feel like

41:14

the biggest thing that I've noticed

41:16

is that we are

41:19

treating chronic diseases as if they

41:21

are acute conditions or some of the

41:23

older kind of things that medicine was

41:25

trying to fix. So like when you

41:27

think of germ theory and how penicillin

41:29

was introduced kind of earlier on in

41:31

like the second age of medicine, that

41:34

was all super important. Cause we were

41:36

treating these acute things that people were

41:38

coming in for and those were causes

41:40

of death. But then once our diet

41:42

got derailed and you know, we also

41:44

stopped exercising as much, these kinds of

41:47

things. It's

41:49

like we're keeping that mindset, but we

41:51

have completely different issues. So that also

41:53

makes us because we clearly in my

41:55

mind have entered the third age of

41:57

medicine, which is that we need. prevention,

42:01

early detection,

42:03

and we need lifestyle intervention, those kind

42:06

of three things. And

42:08

so we're not really getting there

42:10

yet. We're kind of staying in this old way

42:12

of medicine when we're not even treating the same

42:14

thing. Well, that's the eye

42:17

opener for me. That's what was

42:19

so hard for me to really grasp

42:22

onto because I didn't want to believe certain things

42:24

like Professor Tim Nooks when he came out talking

42:26

about low carb, he got attacked and he had

42:28

to go through three years of trial because he's saying

42:30

don't eat cereal for breakfast, basically, right? So

42:32

you go, wait a minute. What he's

42:34

saying is what he sees and when you change your diet,

42:36

these sugars get better. But the problem

42:39

is when the education is coming top

42:41

down from industry, you're captured because the

42:43

data, no one's going to like for

42:46

local, you know, for like

42:48

until recently, using keto or

42:50

low carb for mental illness, like, you know, no

42:52

one would who's going to fund it? He's

42:55

going to fund that because there's no benefit to

42:57

people by saying don't eat processed food and sugar

42:59

or seed oils. And so you're going

43:01

against industry and then they're going to

43:03

bad mouth you and attack you forever

43:05

because that's their financial. That's

43:07

where they're getting their finances from. And you're attacking

43:10

them. It's just like the cigarette companies. How

43:12

long do we know it caused cancer before they actually

43:14

said, yeah, it causes cancer for 40 years? Yeah, 30

43:16

years. And we can't

43:19

have that again. We can't have that, especially when

43:21

we have social media now to be able to

43:23

spread messages and things like that. And that's what

43:25

we're seeing. Like, yeah. Yeah. And

43:28

like you said, you haven't gone on this podcast, Life's Best

43:30

Medicine got taken down four times for medical

43:32

misinformation for all things that were factually correct,

43:34

talking to other doctors about what we were

43:36

seeing. And how do you call it factually incorrect

43:39

when you haven't looked at our records or

43:41

our cards to see what we're seeing? What we're now all

43:43

these things are coming out is true. And

43:45

you go, well, gosh, if people would have

43:47

listened two years ago or three years ago to the

43:49

things we were seeing on the front lines, then, you

43:52

know, and just today came out there with a doctor

43:54

who was attacking a bunch of other doctors. She never

43:56

even went through training. She got her

43:58

MD degree. ever treated

44:00

a patient and she's saying how everyone else is

44:02

and you look at it and go how can

44:04

we have and publish in the major medical journals

44:07

and major industry news and you go

44:10

you weren't even you haven't even treated a patient

44:12

yet and you're you're criticizing all these doctors who

44:14

are saying what they're actually saying so when you

44:16

start seeing and why does this person get propagated

44:18

all the way and she just did a

44:20

mea culpa last week and saying oh yeah i shouldn't

44:22

have attacked all these people well that was too late

44:25

oh my god yeah you know and so it's

44:27

a hard thing where you know i

44:29

think it's just such a hard part of

44:31

medicine i think that's you know we've learned a lot of

44:33

educated you know as i got my gray hairs i started

44:36

learning it like why would it be like this it doesn't

44:38

make sense but the more you're around the

44:41

more you realize that that we're kind of captured as a

44:43

as a society really because when

44:45

it comes to like these experts know

44:47

like you know better than the experts like i think i

44:49

do because i know what i'm seeing right

44:52

and so that's what you're seeing is a bunch of sick

44:54

people around you and young people that are saying what's their

44:56

future when they're 40 or 50 exactly you

44:59

know no it's crazy and

45:01

i yeah even and

45:03

it at first i was like oh my gosh this

45:05

is crazy that it's like in america you know we're

45:07

like a developed country and this is happening to us

45:09

when other countries are already trying

45:11

to manage these things like you see

45:14

in africa and south america they're coming

45:16

out with these new kinds of regulations

45:18

for ultra-parsis foods but even

45:20

there these these big food

45:23

conglomerates are massive they're global

45:25

and they're impacting all

45:28

of these scientific information that

45:30

we have coming out surrounding

45:32

these issues they from like

45:34

promoting ineffective corporate self-regulations

45:36

it's like literally this study that

45:38

i read it was saying stuff

45:40

like that spyware threats all

45:43

these kinds of crazy things you're

45:45

like what is happening this is just talking

45:47

about health and then we're getting

45:49

yeah by where now to try

45:51

to fight against one mom who's saying i

45:53

don't like that high fructose corn syrup is

45:56

in coca-cola these kinds of crazy things where

45:58

it's like what it What

46:00

is going on? Yeah, it is wild. And that's

46:02

the scary part is that, you

46:04

know, I think it's, it's, it's self preservation

46:06

for a lot of people that, you know, if

46:08

you're the president of this corporation, it's hard to

46:10

say, yeah, my product is hurting people. And

46:13

you know, the other thing that happens at the United

46:15

States is the, like we're the beacon

46:17

of hope, basically. So when we come up with

46:19

our nutrition guidelines, everyone says, well, the US must

46:21

know what they're doing. So we'll just follow what

46:23

they're saying. So everyone just kind of doesn't

46:26

do their own research and just kind of, you know, the

46:28

FDA says something. And I'm like, Oh, the FDA approved. Okay.

46:30

Then it's healthy. Well, how many things have been taken off

46:32

the market that were FDA approved? Because they were

46:34

killing people. Right. Years later, after the money was

46:36

made and you go, Oh my gosh. And then

46:38

these guys start working for pharma and you see

46:41

this revolving door and you think, Oh my gosh,

46:43

like what is happening to our system? And when

46:45

you question your conspiracy theories, instead of saying, wait

46:47

a minute, here's what we're seeing. So

46:49

yeah, there's a lot of problems we have to work on,

46:52

but I'm so glad that you're doing your part in getting

46:54

the message out. So tell people

46:56

where they can find it. Is it only on

46:58

X or is it on other platforms? So

47:00

it's exclusively on X as of right now.

47:02

I do have plans though, to release it

47:04

on YouTube too, and then kind of segment

47:07

it out and do some stuff on Tik

47:09

TOK. That'll be fun, but that'll be a

47:11

little bit more for teens, unless you're an

47:13

adult on Tik TOK, that's also cool. Um,

47:15

but that is kind of

47:18

my plan. But for right now you can

47:20

find me on X at traveling jeans with

47:22

one G. So it's like traveling jeans. Um,

47:26

and yeah, I'm, I'm very excited. If you see

47:28

it, leave a comment because I love to see

47:30

all the comments. Yeah, that's awesome.

47:32

I mean, I really enjoyed it. So everyone listened to it.

47:34

It's a great job. Thomas, you feed all the, all the

47:36

great ones are on there. Uh, you

47:38

know, people who I respect a lot that I've

47:41

interviewed or talked to. And so Cali means is

47:43

doing some, I mean, he has a lot of

47:45

insider information from that side of the insider. So

47:50

yeah, it's a, it's, it's something, but, uh, so

47:52

now I gotta ask you what's life's best medicine

47:54

for you? Like what keeps you, gets

47:56

you going. What motivates you? Where do you go when things

47:58

are hard? You're going through struggles. life, like what

48:01

keeps you going? Yeah,

48:03

I mean, I think I'll have a two-way

48:05

answer for this because when it comes to

48:07

just medicine in general, like

48:09

what is life's best medicine, I do

48:11

think that food

48:13

is one of the best medicines and I feel like

48:15

I need to say that too because my whole message

48:19

all about changing the way that

48:21

we eat. But specifically when it comes

48:23

to medicine for kind of the

48:25

soul and my heart, I am

48:28

a firm believing Christian and so

48:30

I always go back to Christ

48:32

and the Word and the Bible

48:35

and so that has really

48:37

gotten me through a lot of these very scary

48:39

kind of things that I've had to do

48:41

for my project. I just continue to

48:43

go back to my faith and I just

48:47

continue to trust in him because he has a plan for

48:49

me and so I just I hope

48:52

that I can continue to help

48:54

others ultimately. Wow, that's

48:56

awesome and funny enough,

48:58

that's the other reason I did this podcast,

49:00

Low Carb MD. If I talked about faith

49:02

or God, it became a

49:05

big issue. People just talk

49:07

about low carb, we don't want to hear about

49:09

that. Well, a lot of us deal with life

49:11

that way and that makes life better for us

49:13

and that's our life's best medicine. Like when things

49:15

go really bad, you okay, God, you're in control

49:17

here, right? So, you know, hearing that over

49:20

and over and one of the biggest kicks I've had

49:22

from friends and queens, there were people on social media

49:25

to go, how can you be a doctor and believe

49:27

in God? Like how can I be a doctor and

49:29

not? And the more I'm around, the more I realize

49:31

our body is not designed to kill us. Like

49:34

we look at it and go, okay, why do we

49:36

get fat? Because we have a choice, we need to

49:38

get fat or we get diabetes. Why does this happen?

49:40

Well, because you know, it's oxidizing the cholesterol, whatever it

49:42

is and you realize our

49:45

body is trying to help us despite our dumb

49:48

stuff we do, right? Like there's some grace in our

49:50

body that we can heal and

49:52

the more you see the intricacies of the

49:54

human body and the physiology and how it

49:56

all balances, you go, wow, how can there

49:58

not be a God? Totally. I completely

50:00

do with you. So it's awesome. So

50:02

so we don't check our intellect or

50:04

our You know so many times

50:07

people go well You just believe this fantasy and I

50:09

think it's really important that we have these discussions So

50:11

some of the most intellectual people I know are people

50:13

of faith, right? And what I just had a Engineer

50:16

on and he goes everyone's just atheists because that's what they said you

50:18

had to be and then I started thinking Let

50:20

me analyze this and he started going through the

50:22

data. He started realizing. Oh my gosh I like

50:25

there's something to do this, you know So it

50:27

is really cool because you know, we don't check

50:29

our intellect at the door We still question and

50:31

that's how cults happen if you don't question, you

50:33

know And it may be the same with

50:36

AI if I believe them blind blindly without saying

50:38

well Let me do my own research

50:40

and talk to people who know this field, you know,

50:42

you know, we have to balance it So that's what

50:44

I love about you bringing the balance of

50:46

these things like we have to have balance We can't

50:48

just trust AI we can't just go to Wikipedia and

50:51

think that's true. We have to

50:53

say, okay What's my life experience? What's the

50:55

background of these people and really questioning? Questioning

50:57

is so important. It's frowned upon in our

50:59

society. That's why when I first heard about

51:01

you I was like man, she's questioning everything

51:03

and at a young age Amazing

51:06

it's dangerous to some people but to the rest of

51:08

us go we just want the truth to show us

51:10

both sides and let's Decide I think that's what we're

51:13

talking about with censorship and all these important things that

51:15

we've talked about in this this last hour So

51:18

yeah I wish you the best and I'm I'm gonna

51:20

be keeping an eye out for all what you come

51:22

up with down the road and anything I can do

51:24

to help or provide A platform let me know but

51:26

great job everyone go to you know, X Twitter Whatever

51:28

you want to call it and check out this documentary

51:31

It's definitely worth worthwhile and so many of us

51:33

are struggling with cancer and you know Or

51:36

we're gonna get cancer. So we think how

51:38

can we do whatever we can to prevent

51:40

that from happening? So Thank

51:42

you so much Brian for having me. This is

51:44

an amazing. Yeah, amazing Thank you so much for your

51:46

hard work and putting all that effort in and I have to

51:49

ask you just before we go Did you do

51:51

all the editing? Did you have help with that? I

51:54

did have help with the execution of the

51:56

editing but I was there throughout the whole

51:58

process helping Clipping,

52:00

cutting, and doing that. That's amazing. Because I

52:02

know I've edited stuff and it's like mind-boggling.

52:05

It's really challenging. You get the

52:07

soundtrack off a little bit, and this gets messed up

52:09

and it's like. Oh, totally. Yeah. No, and

52:11

I think my computer would have crashed if

52:13

I actually have had all the editing tools

52:16

on here. So I'm grateful for that. Yeah,

52:18

yeah. That's awesome. But awesome work. So

52:20

thankful for that. And keep up

52:22

the great work. Thank you. Hey,

52:25

and everyone, this is why we did the

52:27

podcast. We talked about a lot of different

52:29

things. And I'm thankful to

52:32

my sponsors who make this possible. And

52:35

just working to make people healthier and better. And so

52:37

sometimes just say, hey, is this genetic? Or is this

52:40

something I can do about it? Can I be less

52:42

stressed? Can I be nicer to people? Can I smile

52:44

a little bit more and relax on the beach every

52:46

now and again? Do things that

52:48

really give your life meaning, whether it's faith,

52:51

whether it's yoga, meditation, whatever it is, just

52:53

find that meaning in life. And thank

52:56

you for listening. Be kind to

52:58

yourself. Be kind to others. Have a great day.