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Hey everybody, it's time for Mac Break
0:02
Weekly. Well, just a few hours ago
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Apple announced new iPads, a new Apple
0:06
Pencil. We've got the panel to talk
0:08
about it, explain it, and delve deep
0:10
into what the M4 is all about.
0:12
Is this Apple's way of
0:14
saying, forget the Mac, you need an
0:16
iPad? I don't know, Doc Rock is
0:18
here from Ecamm. We've got Andy Inocco
0:20
and Micah Sargent stuck around after the
0:23
event. So we've got some talking to
0:25
do. Coming up next, the brand new
0:27
iPads are here on Mac Break Weekly.
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Podcasts you love, from
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people you trust. This
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is Twit. This
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is Mac Break Weekly, episode 920, recorded Tuesday, May 7th,
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2024. Breath of Lavender. It's
0:51
time for Mac Break Weekly, the show where we cover
0:53
the latest news from Apple. And of course, this morning
0:55
there was big news, so much so
0:57
that half the panel has disappeared.
1:03
Andy, thank you for not leaving me. Andy
1:05
Inocco is here, but he's in the library
1:08
with a sailing ship model. Andy
1:11
Inocco from GBH in Boston. Hi, Andrew.
1:13
Yes, thank you. I thought I'd show
1:15
off the where your educational tax dollars
1:17
are going into our library infrastructure, which
1:20
is part of a healthy
1:22
community and an informed community. Actually, my pick
1:24
of the week has to do with the
1:26
library, so stay tuned. Excellent. Also
1:29
with us, Micah Sargent, he got up early
1:31
with me, early Pacific time anyway, 7 a.m.
1:33
to watch the Apple event and
1:35
then host iOS today. So we're really putting
1:37
them to work today, a three-show day for
1:40
Mr. Sargent. You can go take
1:43
a nap later. I
1:45
was up at four this morning, and for some
1:47
reason, I could not get back to sleep. Yeah,
1:49
I had the same problem. I've been up since
1:51
four. I had the same problem. Maybe we're just
1:53
so excited. And my eight sleep said, well, your heart
1:55
rate was 7% higher. What's going on? I was excited. because
2:00
it's a holiday geek day
2:03
for apple lovers. Doc Rock's here
2:05
filling in for Alex Lindsay. Hello,
2:07
doctor. Hello. I was
2:09
going to say Michael Lindsay is 7'4 man. For
2:12
us Hawaii people, we got to get up at 4. And
2:15
I'm the same though. I have that
2:17
disease. It's called Apple Announcement Insomnia. I
2:20
never get cleaned properly the night
2:22
before. I don't know why. Did
2:25
you get up for the... I mean, it wasn't... This is
2:27
the weird thing. It wasn't an event. It
2:29
was more of a viewing party, right? Yeah,
2:32
you get up and I got up. I got up
2:34
and I really thought like maybe it was going to
2:36
be like two hours for some reason. I was like,
2:38
man, they're going pretty fast. And
2:40
it was about 48 minutes or whatever. So
2:43
it could have been a TV show. But
2:45
first time I watched it on Apple
2:47
TV instead of YouTube, just
2:49
out of curiosity and it's glorious. And it
2:52
was when you open the Apple TV app,
2:54
it was like the, you know, the giant
2:56
hero and it looked really good. So yeah,
2:58
four times the phone. Well, don't tell the
3:00
antitrust people. Yeah,
3:03
I think it was the first one that really
3:05
felt like an infomercial. I was almost expecting like a
3:07
chyron with an 800 number on it. Like
3:11
it was just like, okay, well, if there's... If
3:13
all you're going to do is post like a
3:15
highly produced video with sales points, marketing points, okay,
3:19
I'll definitely like bookmark that for watching later. But
3:21
it's like it takes the eventness out of it.
3:24
Yeah. And then the same thing
3:26
to a Micah early on is that it
3:28
really felt like an advert, not an event.
3:31
And I guess that's what happens. If Alex were here,
3:33
we'd say, no, no, this is the way. Because
3:36
in 48 minutes, they got everything. Now it was supposed
3:38
to be 25 minutes. I guess German got that wrong.
3:41
Well, is it supposed to be? No, it
3:44
was rumored to be. Not necessarily. Well,
3:46
I know. I actually, of course,
3:48
I used one of our favorite apps,
3:50
Downey, to download like the actual video.
3:53
So it's 41 minutes, 40 seconds
3:55
minus probably the three minutes it took
3:58
to launch. with
4:00
for the countdown. So yeah, this was pretty
4:02
short. This is pretty brisk. Yeah. And the
4:04
countdown was very smooth transition. But the one
4:06
thing that I thought was funny, I don't
4:08
know if you noticed this, when
4:10
Tim was doing a talk, Tim
4:12
had this bounce and he would like
4:14
every syllable, he was doing like a
4:17
karaoke ball bounce. Every couple of
4:19
syllables, he would like pop, pop. And
4:21
I was waiting for him to just... Tim
4:24
is always a little pressured in
4:26
his speech, a little, good morning.
4:28
But he seemed more so. I
4:32
don't know why, but he did seem more so. There was
4:34
something going on. He was, I noticed that too. He was
4:36
a little bit Italian in his
4:38
gestures. Yeah. Maybe that's one of
4:40
the other reasons why I got the infomercial vibe off of them.
4:44
Tim didn't stay very long. He just
4:46
stayed long enough to say, the good news
4:48
is the Vision Pro is selling exactly as
4:50
we intended. Yeah.
4:53
And all the superlatives that we thought
4:55
we would miss out on, like all
4:58
the irrelevant superlatives that we thought we
5:00
miss out on by not having a
5:02
live event. So that's the new MacBook
5:04
Airs are the best selling notebooks in
5:06
the entire world. That's
5:09
nice. We didn't get a walkthrough of
5:11
like a new architectural Maven Apple
5:14
store, flagship store, but it'll do. It'll
5:16
do. No mention of the big product
5:18
that Apple sells half of their revenue,
5:21
which is the iPhone. But
5:23
this was really iPad day
5:25
and pencil day. I'm on the Apple store, which was
5:27
closed. This time, they got up right after the event.
5:29
They wanted to give you a chance to buy. And
5:32
everything we're going to talk about, you can order right
5:34
now for delivery. Well, it
5:36
was next week. I don't know if
5:38
they're getting sold out. So there's an
5:40
iPad pro in 11 and 13 inches.
5:42
They're not saying 12.9 anymore. There's
5:47
a new iPad air in 13 and
5:49
11 inches, which looks interestingly a lot
5:51
like the old iPad pro, even as
5:53
an M2 chip in it. They
5:55
dropped the price of the 10th generation iPad. That's
5:57
now the base model at $340. which
6:00
is a great price really I mean for an iPad
6:03
that will do everything these other guys will
6:05
do and they're off to the right
6:08
it says new new new and
6:10
the iPad mini where there was
6:12
absolutely nothing yeah that's a
6:14
bummer that was something I was really looking
6:16
forward to and also it's they
6:19
really seem to have cluttered like the top end
6:21
now it's I
6:24
was amazed I will talk about I'm sure we'll
6:26
talk about this later but it just seems weird
6:29
that okay so you know I have the iPad
6:31
Air which has most of the functionality that would
6:33
attract someone to the iPad Pro if they're assuming
6:35
that they don't they're not made of money they
6:37
don't want to necessarily spend top dollar on the
6:39
top amount on the top device but
6:42
it's no longer the thinnest but the iPad Air
6:44
is not the thinnest one it's
6:46
like so the easiest one to hold is still
6:49
is going to be the iPad Pro and so
6:51
it's it bums me out that they miss an
6:53
opportunity to really differentiate the iPad
6:55
by bumping up the iPad mini
6:57
which again it's it's it's such
6:59
a great device yeah
7:02
I I I'm
7:04
curious what you all thought
7:06
my take away from this
7:08
and I guess they're coming at it
7:10
from a Mac user a Macintosh user
7:13
is that Apple is now doubling down
7:15
on this notion of what's a PC
7:17
this is the post PC computer
7:20
and it really is looking more and more
7:22
and priced more and more like
7:25
a full fledged laptop I
7:28
really like the people
7:30
who like me who are worried oh what wet you
7:32
know what's gonna happen to Mac and Mac OS I
7:35
think the alarm bells are going off again I was
7:37
I was lulled to sleep for a while but I
7:39
think they're going off
7:42
you know my take was it
7:44
was still that gee it's impressive these
7:46
are great leaps in performance they made
7:48
a they made great hay about what
7:50
Final Cut could do on an iPad
7:52
with AI features and selecting things and
7:54
selecting foreground objects from background object that
7:56
just touch of a button blah blah
7:58
blah all I could think of however
8:00
was, wow that's really, really impressive. Imagine
8:03
how impressive an achievement they could have
8:05
made if five or ten
8:07
years ago they had not decided that
8:09
touch screens do not belong on Macs.
8:11
This could be a Macintosh. This could
8:13
be a next evolution of a hybrid
8:16
desktop tablet sort of OS sort of
8:18
interface. And now as I
8:20
mean as we saw as I so
8:22
ably demonstrated last week, you can't really
8:24
sub an iPad for a laptop's work.
8:26
To this day, the same thing that
8:30
is true today as it was the first
8:32
day, an iPad is great so long as
8:34
you can really predict exactly what you're going
8:36
to need it to do and everything works
8:38
fine. It's the moment when you have to
8:40
call an audible in the middle on the
8:43
day and in the moment that it
8:45
really starts to let you down.
8:47
So again, kudos to making a
8:50
really wonderful tablet.
8:52
I've got an iPad Pro. I love it
8:54
but what I would love this iPad Pro
8:56
to be is just no iPad
8:59
at all and just a Mac that is
9:01
that flexible. Yeah. I think
9:03
it's coming. I think the emergence is getting
9:05
closer and strangely,
9:08
the Rosetta Stone
9:11
of this if you will is
9:13
the Apple Vision Pro because
9:15
that is the first computer that's not
9:17
a computer but it is a computer
9:20
and it shows that you can
9:22
put computer as appliance. So
9:25
I think we're three to four years
9:27
out but I believe your wish
9:29
comes to sooner than you think. I'm
9:32
not wishing for this, believe me. The
9:34
Vision Pro is an iPad internally, right?
9:36
I mean it's basically the iPad. Yeah,
9:41
I wonder, I don't think Apple will stop
9:43
making the Mac but
9:46
it really feels like they want, this is
9:48
the computer they want, people even pros to
9:51
buy. Here's
9:53
the, just so people know what
9:55
we're talking about, the comparison, on the
9:58
left is the new 1380. inch
10:00
M4, that's very important based iPad
10:02
Pro, this is a M2 based
10:05
iPad Pro, the last generation and
10:07
the new iPad Air also
10:10
M2. Price wise,
10:13
I don't know why they don't have the, maybe
10:15
they stopped selling the iPad Pro, 6th
10:18
generation, they don't have a price for it. Screen
10:21
now 13 inches instead of 12.9, you can see
10:24
that. Ultra Retina XDR
10:26
on the new iPad Pro, Liquid
10:29
Retina XDR on the old iPad Pro
10:31
and Liquid Retina NODR on
10:33
the Air, you don't
10:36
get promotion either but all three are P3,
10:39
all three are True Tone, all three have
10:41
any reflective coating and they introduced a nano
10:43
texture display on the
10:45
1 and 2 terabyte models of the
10:47
new iPad Pro. Now that's
10:50
the same nano texture I think that's on
10:52
the monitor, right on the XDR monitor which
10:55
is I think pretty sensitive. Micah you
10:57
stopped me from ordering
10:59
the nano texture display. Please don't get it. Because
11:01
it's dimmer. That was the thing that
11:07
I didn't hear people complaining about any sort of sensitivity
11:10
or that it would chip or
11:12
something, it was just that by having
11:14
that on there you're reducing, they felt
11:16
that the brightness was reduced. But remember
11:18
when the XDR is true, the display
11:20
came out with a nano texture, they
11:22
said don't touch it and they
11:24
sold a $19 polishing cloth with it. Maybe
11:29
they've got a more durable... Hopefully this is
11:31
a different kind. I mean don't touch it,
11:34
doesn't work for us. Exactly,
11:36
you gotta touch it. Kind of
11:38
a problem. Only with the Apple
11:40
Pencil. The M4 chip is
11:42
now out. We're
11:44
gonna have to really dive deep into that and we
11:46
will in a bit. 10
11:48
core CPU up to, they didn't talk about
11:50
the 10 cores, they talked about the 6 and 4. 10
11:53
core GPU, 16
11:55
core neural engine. That's the same 16
11:58
core neural engine it looks like in the M2. versions
12:01
of the iPad. In fact it's
12:03
very similar to the M2 so we'll be interested
12:05
to see. Camera
12:07
wise they're still going with that
12:09
12 megapixel even
12:11
though they promoted the idea that you might
12:14
want to shoot video with your iPad. Please
12:16
don't. Yes but you'll notice that they lost
12:18
a lens. We only have one camera lens
12:21
on the new iPad Pros whereas the previous
12:23
model has both the wide and ultra wide.
12:25
It was an interesting choice to get rid
12:27
of a lens but I think one that
12:30
suggests hey maybe the iPads not the best
12:32
place to be taking the photos of the
12:34
video. Yeah even though they showed it but
12:37
they did also really showed it specifically for
12:39
files you know they were really sharing kind
12:41
of a thing yeah document scanning
12:43
or if you need to but
12:46
yeah. They also they
12:49
also released a Final Cut camera app which is
12:51
designed for multi camera shoots using Final Cut on
12:53
the iPad so I think they want you to
12:55
use your iPhone. They did because
12:58
thank God
13:00
they moved the camera. Always been
13:02
a problem for me on the
13:04
iPad Pro which was the camera
13:06
was on the left-hand side if
13:10
you held it in landscape mode. In fact they even
13:12
show it here in portrait mode as if oh of
13:14
course that's how you're supposed to hold an iPad but
13:16
the new one they put it on top like they
13:18
did with the air so that's that's good. It
13:21
does not it does have the true depth camera system
13:23
you know it'll move you move around with you on
13:25
center stage. Connectors yep Thunderbolt
13:28
USB 4 just like the
13:30
previous version face ID here's
13:33
one you're gonna be interested in though. Apple
13:35
Pencil Pro is not supported on your
13:37
old iPad Pro. Yeah
13:40
requires an M2 or an M4 excuse me a new
13:42
one new new air or a new new pro because
13:45
this is 12th generation I mean 12.9 inch 6th generation iPad is
13:48
on M2
13:52
so it's not the M2 they
13:54
just I think declined to support the Pencil
13:56
Pro on the older iPad Pro
13:58
maybe a little nudge. to
14:01
get you in there. Yeah so now
14:03
that that means is now they have three
14:05
pencils they have to keep like I check
14:07
to make sure even the first generation pencil
14:09
is still on the on the books which
14:11
is I suppose is fair because they want
14:13
to make sure it's compatible all the way
14:15
down but wow that's I'm sure that's a
14:17
non-optimal roadmap they that they were trying to
14:19
avoid. They have bumped
14:22
the minimum memory storage which is
14:24
a good thing frankly that was a little
14:26
low at 128 but is now 256 gigs
14:30
let's do a little little shopping shall
14:32
we so Micah
14:34
you're gonna get you like the 11 inch a
14:38
and black or silver space
14:40
black party space kind of love
14:42
that right up to
14:45
two terabyte notice though two terabyte two
14:47
terabytes is a thousand dollars more than
14:49
the 256 gigabytes yeah wow
14:54
that's not just a storage I'm thinking you
14:56
get a better processor I don't know what
14:58
do you get some more I don't
15:01
know anyway people have not yet
15:04
hold that apart but I think that is
15:06
you know in the work to trying to
15:09
figure out exactly because we have seen in
15:11
the past that the terabyte
15:13
models have more RAM or
15:16
have other features that the non terabyte
15:18
yeah I think that's what it is
15:20
my current one is two terabytes and
15:23
I mainly got it because
15:25
I just was going to be using it to
15:27
dump a lot of photo and footage when I'm
15:29
traveling I use it to edit and
15:32
at this point in time like
15:34
I would say one would have
15:36
been fine but I always overdo
15:38
it yeah yeah you can't
15:40
really add it later but it is super
15:42
handy being able to like you know take
15:44
pictures with my cameras or take footage with
15:47
my camera or the osmo pocket 3 now
15:49
which is my favorite camera don't be straight
15:51
to the iPad get the chopping and then
15:53
you know I'll put stuff on the fly
15:55
so it's helpful but I don't really notice
15:57
anything other than the space you go up
15:59
it's go ahead It might sound
16:01
a little bit weird given how cheap you can
16:03
buy a terabyte of storage like as a Thunderbolt
16:05
device, but it's
16:08
possible that it's likely that it's not just
16:10
the amount, it's the kind of RAM that
16:12
they want to put in there. I
16:15
thought it's still kind of weird that on the
16:17
iPad Air, you can still get the minimum of
16:19
128 gigs, which is like
16:21
really? Seriously? Sure.
16:24
I think that might be equally
16:27
a reflection of here's how much
16:29
Apple spends on RAM and here's how
16:31
much it would affect the really,
16:33
really comfortable buy-in price of the iPad Air if
16:35
they made the minimum just 256 gigs. That
16:39
reminds me too, you were talking about
16:41
the nano texture glass. Speaking of storage
16:44
size impacting, nano texture glass is
16:46
only available on the 1 terabyte
16:48
and 2 terabyte models. That's right.
16:51
So you can't even get that nano on
16:53
the smaller. And that's probably because they're doing
16:55
something with the image in order to make
16:57
it work properly with the new nano texture,
16:59
especially with the new sandwich displays. So
17:01
it might need that extra space in
17:03
order to do something. You're very generous,
17:06
Doc Rock. It could also be because
17:09
they just want you to have to
17:11
get more, spend more money. I
17:13
never take that approach because that is the
17:15
easiest way to ruin a business and this
17:18
business has not ruined itself for all this
17:20
time. But everyone always goes through
17:22
other just doing this to make money. I tell
17:24
you how I run my business. I do things
17:26
to make money. Yeah,
17:28
they're pushing you. They are giving you
17:30
reasons to buy more. There
17:33
is also, thanks to a James B who's looking
17:35
at the tech specs, the 1
17:37
and 2 terabyte models have one
17:39
more performance core. They have
17:41
twice the RAM, 16 gigs. The
17:44
lower storage units, 256 and
17:47
512, have three cores and
17:49
performance cores and eight gigs of RAM. So
17:52
that's what the bump is. It
17:55
sounds like you really want to at least get
17:58
a terabyte if you want the nano texture. or
18:00
more RAM. I think
18:03
16 gigs of RAM seems like a
18:05
good idea personally. Yeah, especially
18:07
with the investment in AI now that they're
18:09
really going both shoulders ahead with that. At
18:12
least on other platforms we've seen that these models
18:14
if you're trying to run them on device and
18:17
that seems to be what Apple wants to do,
18:19
you really do need as much RAM as possible
18:21
to get them to work efficiently. And that was
18:23
after people were already complaining
18:25
that 8 gigs seemed a little
18:27
bit chintzy. At least not for
18:30
under advice that might not have the option of getting
18:32
more RAM than that or a really
18:34
really big price jump for getting
18:36
more RAM than that. So I mean they did I
18:39
think by a lot of us were
18:41
kind of paying close attention to what do
18:43
they say about artificial intelligence because they're gonna
18:46
part of the messaging going forward for Apple
18:48
is going to be yes but we acknowledge
18:50
that we live in an AI driven tech
18:52
world. Believe me all of our hardware and
18:54
software and our operating systems are gonna reflect
18:56
that. So we're gonna spend even on a
18:58
41 minute or 40 minute
19:01
presentation we're gonna spend at least three
19:03
or four or five minutes explaining exactly
19:05
how powerful the M4 is for how
19:09
powerful neural engine is. I
19:11
think they actually even said
19:13
that with a lot of
19:15
fudge factor in it the
19:17
iPad Pro is the most
19:19
powerful, the most powerful onboard
19:21
AI of any desktop computer.
19:23
They're basically saying
19:26
that all the all the Intel stuff has
19:28
not come out yet. It is faster than
19:30
all the stuff that is currently existing. It probably won't
19:32
be as fast as what's gonna happen in six months
19:35
for now but at least for now we can say
19:37
that we have the most powerful AI
19:40
hardware support in the CPU on any mobile
19:43
or If numbers
19:45
are your thing you can
19:47
remember the number 38, 38
19:50
tops which
19:52
is what they're claiming for their AI engine.
19:55
You can compare that when Qualcomm stuff comes
19:57
out which is any minute now. Yeah,
20:00
I don't know if Intel's gonna even be in
20:03
the game but Qualcomm is claiming of
20:05
course to be outperformed the M2s Nanotexture
20:08
glass cost you a hundred bucks more Wi-Fi
20:11
I mean plus cellular rather cellular cost
20:13
you 200 bucks more. That's kind of
20:15
a bump. It used to be 129
20:17
bucks Now in turn some people
20:21
Were caught off guard I guess by
20:23
the fact that the cellular models no
20:25
longer have a physical sim drawer Oh,
20:27
it's easy. Yeah So
20:30
if that's a thing that bugs you be aware of
20:32
that Yeah, and I imagine
20:34
that will be more of an issue outside
20:36
the US but here in the US
20:38
I think every carrier does he said now Let's
20:41
see what else Apple pencil
20:43
Pro is 129 bucks Apple
20:47
regular pencil non pro is
20:49
79 dollars. They are
20:51
not offering the less expensive pencil Pencil
20:55
dilettante edition Like
20:59
two weeks ago because I left one in
21:01
the airplane Ex-host plot a
21:03
new pencil two weeks ago and
21:05
it's funny now a pencil can be found with fine
21:07
line and I was like, oh Part
21:11
my whole house looking for this A
21:14
lot of a lot of stuff into that pencil.
21:16
I don't know if they have you a UWB in
21:18
there or what but it's pretty impressive So
21:21
let's see here magic to add
21:23
the magic keyboard Something
21:26
I would never play again, by the
21:28
way, really you like the third party
21:31
wise I know I love my magic
21:33
keyboard, but here without traveling it Happens
21:36
so many times when you're set up on
21:38
the the tray table, right? And I
21:40
have a 12.9 is pro is
21:42
bent back like that. Everything is glorious I'm in
21:45
my movie and the person in front the size
21:47
that throw the chair back And
21:49
then it bites the top of that
21:52
little click things and the iPad either
21:54
hits the tank or yeah And
21:56
I'm like, you know what? I'm not even gonna bother
21:58
anymore. I'm just gonna get a regular folio
22:01
and some portable keyboard and
22:03
just be happy. Because
22:05
yeah, it's nice to type one. It
22:07
does make it way heavier too. And
22:10
so now that my most of my life is in
22:13
an airplane or an airport, I'm like, yeah, I'm not
22:15
buying one of those ever again and I actually like
22:17
it. Yeah. Well, that's gonna be true
22:19
of any laptop, of course. I do
22:22
love my Magic Keyboard. I generally keep
22:24
it that that's generally where the iPad
22:26
lives. I find though that I
22:28
think for the reasons that you
22:30
were mentioning, I also tend to keep
22:33
the standard just like keyboard, excuse me, the
22:36
standard cover like in the bag as well.
22:39
Because if I'm gonna be out for like
22:41
a day, even overnight, it's
22:43
kind of nice to have that option of being
22:45
able to actually fold it as flat as I want
22:47
it to go. The only thing I don't like about
22:50
the Magic Keyboard is that it bends only to a
22:52
certain extent and no further. And
22:54
oftentimes that extra like 15,
22:56
20 degrees is the difference
22:58
between perfect viewing angle
23:01
and okay, I guess that'll
23:03
do. Yes, exactly.
23:07
And you know, this is so crazy
23:09
Andy. I often forget to take it
23:11
out. Like because it lives there
23:13
so much that in my brain, it's just
23:15
part of the deal. So oftentimes I'm sitting
23:17
there, I'm holding it uncomfortably, I'm holding the
23:19
Magic Keyboard uncomfortably and my brain never says,
23:21
hey dummy, just pull it apart. Oh look,
23:24
you can just carry this card. You know, it's
23:26
a yeah, I agree with you. Magic
23:28
Keyboard is $300. It's
23:30
cheaper. It was $350. Oh, all right. That's
23:34
a blessing. It
23:36
does have a function row. So win. A
23:39
win. 300 bucks. But
23:41
it does make it a challenging
23:45
proposition because now,
23:49
again, I love the iPad Pro, but if
23:52
Apple is positioning it as something that
23:54
is competitive with a laptop, by the
23:56
time you add in a comfortable keyboard
23:58
case like that, you are not
24:00
just you are almost in the
24:02
arena of like a performance grade Windows
24:05
notebook with a touchscreen and with a
24:09
pen that was probably not as good as
24:11
the pencil but as good as most
24:13
people are going to want. So it's
24:16
an interesting proposition to suddenly
24:18
say once you look it's I mean I cheaped
24:21
out about it. I did get the
24:23
iPad pro I wanted. I did not get the
24:25
keyboard case until like 8 to
24:27
10 months later when the previous
24:29
generation model was on sale and I found
24:31
out that you can actually use them in the new
24:33
models too. So I was able to cheap out and
24:36
at least spread it out a little bit but if
24:38
I had $1,500, $1,600 worth of iPad in my basket
24:40
at once I would have need
24:45
to take a good 48 hour breather to figure
24:47
out what can I buy for $1,600 that might
24:49
do as good
24:51
a job as this iPad pro combination
24:54
and can I do even better than that for
24:56
the same amount or as good for $400 and
24:58
$500 less. If you are
25:00
a mini fan by the way, Gurman is saying
25:03
that there will be a seventh generation mini
25:05
at some point relatively soon.
25:09
So we will
25:11
see you know I don't and a new pencil to go
25:13
with it. Maybe, maybe.
25:15
I like the mini but
25:18
I use the mini far more than
25:20
I use any other iPad but okay. Let's
25:23
see. Have we
25:26
covered all of the oh I forgot to
25:28
tell you your price Micah with
25:31
a terabyte $18.99. It
25:35
is. It's a laptop. It's a
25:37
expensive Windows laptop and
25:40
that's the 11 inch model. You
25:42
put in the 13 inch model it kind of goes up a
25:44
little bit more as well. $21.99. I
25:50
just put it in the chat. I paid
25:52
$25.99 for my last one. Yeah. You
25:55
know I should probably keep track of prices
25:58
and stuff. This is I think the same
26:00
price yes as the old
26:02
one was pretty close I believe it feels like
26:04
it's the same roughly the same price. So
26:09
Micah I have a question sorry Leo I know
26:11
you're boss but I have to ask a question
26:13
because you mentioned earlier you guys said that not
26:15
to get the nano you think that the regular
26:17
screen and paper like or something of
26:19
that nature is better? So
26:22
I the reason why I was
26:24
suggesting Leo not get the nano
26:26
texture display. He knows me because
26:28
that's why he knows. I
26:31
know Leo. That's what it is.
26:33
And B the
26:35
complaints that I've heard is that
26:37
you do see a drop in
26:39
brightness by doing that and
26:41
so for some people that's annoying even if
26:44
it means that there's less reflect you know
26:46
reflection but I
26:48
can't speak to the textural
26:50
differences. See the thing that
26:52
got me this morning and
26:55
again my eyes were still halfway focusing
26:57
when they talked about this stacked OLEDs.
27:00
Yeah. This time we're getting OLED that's
27:02
a difference it should be brighter it's
27:05
a thousand nits or stop
27:07
that stupid
27:09
reactions and then it also has so the
27:12
double you have the double paddle so that
27:14
just has me intrigued and normally I would
27:16
just be triggering now but now I think
27:18
I have to go in and see for
27:21
myself. Yeah. How does it how bright it
27:23
is because you're right as you as you
27:25
get what's the word we say now Leo
27:28
vintage brightness is the difference
27:32
you being able to see clearly or not
27:34
right. Yeah. I also yeah I had the liquid
27:41
paper on mine because Alex
27:43
told me to and it gives you a nice
27:45
texture with the pencil. I took it off because
27:48
I just I want the glass I like the
27:50
smooth glass. Now we'll see with the new pencil
27:52
we'll see it so you you'd like a little
27:54
texture on your on your screen doc.
27:57
Well only because you know they show
27:59
one of first things is like people taking actual
28:01
notes. When it comes to writing, it's glorious.
28:05
For everything else, it's irritating. And I wish
28:07
I could just clip it on like the
28:09
old grandpa says, clip
28:12
on the texture, write, and then take it back
28:14
off. Well, that is the advantage of
28:16
the screen. The screen cover is you could at least
28:18
remove it if you decide you don't like it. When
28:21
you buy the Nano screen, you got it. It's
28:23
yours. I
28:25
can't remember who it is, but somebody
28:27
has figured out how the outside
28:30
is a magnet. And so
28:34
or something like that, I'll have to send you
28:36
I'll find it and I'll tell you the whole
28:38
way around the whole perimeter. Yeah,
28:40
they basically make the outside the sticky part, but
28:43
it's not sticky. So you can have
28:45
a magnetic screen and then yeah, pull it
28:47
off after work. Because you remember the old
28:49
school CRT 3Ms? They were just clip on
28:52
right when you wanted the privacy screen or
28:54
the anti-glare. It was just a little frame.
28:58
We need more Velcro in a $2,000.
29:00
That's it. Thank you to
29:02
Mike in the chat. It's
29:05
from Astropad and it's called Rock Paper
29:07
Pencil. Oh, and yeah, it just goes
29:09
on the outside is where it connects
29:11
and then you can just take it
29:13
off. It's nano cling. It's not magnets.
29:17
Well nano cling is even better than...
29:19
I want to get from now new
29:21
from Saran Wrap Nano cling. Okay,
29:25
so is it just a cling? I don't
29:27
that seems like that's... I have one. You
29:29
do? I haven't installed it
29:31
though. So I can't talk about that. It's almost
29:33
been in a box for like a month now
29:35
because I bought it. I was like, Oh, this
29:38
is so cool. But yeah, I'll have to try
29:40
it and let you know. Nano
29:42
cling sounds like something that is sponsored
29:45
by the Mill Trimming Products. That's on
29:47
all the podcasts. I was thinking it
29:49
was sponsored by Charmin. Oh
29:52
God, you guys. You
29:55
mean... Okay. So it uses
29:57
static basically. It's stronger than
29:59
magnets, a leg of
30:01
ass or an astro pad huh
30:04
huh and they also have their own rock paper
30:07
pencil tip which looks like a
30:10
kit yeah yeah you can get
30:12
that with the kit if you'd like but
30:14
the problem is I have to this is
30:16
so stupid but I have to clean the
30:19
iPad screen first and I just I'm lazy so
30:21
I haven't done it yeah you want it perfect
30:23
don't you recommend you a
30:25
bottle of swoosh I
30:28
have swoosh I've got all the stuff I need
30:30
except for the desire to make it happen that's
30:32
funny how geeks converge
30:34
on a product it's just
30:37
odd like the neil patel said the
30:39
printer everybody has that nobody talks about
30:43
which is what is that is that brother brother
30:45
HL to something something yeah and then go ahead
30:47
you can bring me the swoosh and
30:51
then apparently we have without it's
30:54
like we all we all are menstrual cycles
30:56
have synchronized it we all have this
30:59
thing cleaners oh wait but
31:01
this is not a swoosh this is who know
31:03
he met with him I've met who's oh
31:05
good what a relief come on what a
31:07
relief I wouldn't want to be a product
31:11
called swoosh I
31:13
never heard of which but apparently our team does
31:16
oh man it tastes really good with
31:18
a single malt I'm joking I do not
31:21
drink your whoosh all
31:23
right let's take a little break we have lots more to
31:25
talk about it'll go to the 11-inch we'll talk about
31:27
the new pro pencil
31:29
take the break I'll clean my iPad
31:32
screen put this close that's nano cling on it
31:34
put your put your whoo you
31:36
should do spontaneously and in a rush
31:38
yeah absolutely absolutely any
31:40
of that goes here Jason
31:42
Snell is somewhere
31:46
I think he's getting a briefing don't know about Alex
31:48
though I think Alex just got a job we
31:51
don't know was he at was the office
31:53
hours earlier I don't know always till it
31:56
I can make it and I was I
31:58
didn't want to push it on No,
32:00
don't push. No, no. Just like, oh,
32:02
wait. Never push because that gives us a chance to have Micah
32:04
and Doc on. I'm happy about it. Doc Rock
32:06
is here. We're very
32:08
happy to have him and, of course, Micah
32:10
Sargent, who joined me this morning, early
32:14
this morning to... it wasn't
32:16
early for anybody but us and Doc Rock.
32:18
It was really early for Doc Rock. Here
32:22
is iJustine, has
32:25
already posted her first
32:27
look at the M4
32:29
iPad Pro with the nano
32:32
texture display. She's talking
32:34
to a Zippo lighter. I'm not sure why that is,
32:36
but anyway. Apple Pencil. Let's check them
32:38
out. Here is the new iPad. If you see
32:40
smell in there. With the matte display. I'm so
32:42
excited about this. As you can see, there's
32:44
so much... So that's interesting. So even though it
32:46
was a viewing party... We now come in two
32:48
different sizes. They did invite
32:50
some... ...game journalists to
32:52
an event somewhere. This
32:55
might have been before. I wonder if this was
32:57
yesterday. No, no, it was today. It
33:00
was today? Because they posted... Andrew and
33:02
iPhone... They posted pictures. They
33:04
were all together. Okay. Okay.
33:08
I'm so good. There's
33:11
a little event. This might be... I think
33:13
they were doing an event in New York. I bet you this is
33:15
New York, not Cupertino. But I don't know.
33:19
I can't wait to see that tandem OLED
33:21
display. That's going to be interesting.
33:23
So Micah and I did both order. You're getting
33:25
yours Wednesday, Micah? Is that right? Yes,
33:28
it is coming on the 15th as well. Micah
33:30
will have the 11 inch. I will
33:32
have the 13 inch. We
33:34
both got the pencil. I got the keyboard. Did you
33:37
get the keyboard or no? Yeah,
33:39
it'll be a full dealie, Bob. The
33:41
whole package. Yeah, the whole
33:43
kit and caboodle. Oh, kit and caboodle. Awesome.
33:48
Awesome. We will have that review for you probably on
33:50
Ask the Tech Guys. It'll be the first time we'll
33:53
be able to do it. But you'll do a full
33:55
review, of course. I'll do a full on video as
33:57
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is a big difference and I think when
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you add that all up, you're
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38:08
was German's big scoop a couple of weeks
38:11
ago. Nobody believed
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it. Everybody thought, what? The first
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product with the M4 is going to be
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an iPad Pro? Well
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it happened. We don't know much about the
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M4 at this point. People
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alluded to the fact that it's on the new
38:27
TSMC 3 nanometer node,
38:31
which I think this is the 3NE
38:33
node. In theory, it would
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be an improvement in
38:38
performance. They're
38:42
saying it 2X performance over the
38:44
previous generation. A
38:46
lot of that with the iPads,
38:48
it's weird though because they've always been overpowered
38:50
for what they do. By
38:53
the way, Andy, it wasn't in fact over
38:55
the previous generation. It was over two generations
38:58
ago, which I thought was kind of cheesy
39:00
of Apple. Yeah, the comparison. You see how
39:02
that stuck in your head though? It's twice
39:04
as fast. It's not twice as fast as
39:06
the previous one. I
39:09
did note that they wanted a snow that
39:11
was ten times faster than the original iPad
39:13
Pro. Yeah, that is meaningless. The
39:17
one with the home button and the thick bezels? Okay.
39:21
Well, but the other thing, honestly,
39:23
to be fair, I
39:25
have an M1 iPad Pro. Does
39:30
anybody feel like that was too
39:32
slow or didn't perform well enough?
39:34
I don't think so. It's
39:38
weird because the iPad Pro, there's a
39:40
thick wall between two kinds of users.
39:42
There are a handful of users that
39:44
use it for really intensive productivity stuff.
39:47
I'm talking about video editing and I'm
39:50
talking about really intense
39:52
kind of art creation. There's
39:54
the rest of us that are
39:56
buying this because, again, they wish they had
39:59
a MacBook. that had a tablet
40:01
style MacBook or something with a touchscreen or something
40:03
they could use a pencil for when there you
40:05
just take notes and stuff. And yeah, it's seriously
40:08
overpowered for, it's always been seriously overpowered for what
40:10
most people use it for. So again,
40:12
it's nice. We have to
40:15
remind ourselves and everybody that just because it's an M4 is
40:17
not though, oh,
40:19
well that may just too bad in the
40:21
M2, isn't it? It's like, no, it's
40:23
just like the next generation of processors. We can have slow, you
40:26
can have a slow M4, you can have a super fast M4.
40:28
The fact that you're going to see
40:30
an M4 and a desktop later on this
40:32
year doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to
40:34
have the same performance, the same capabilities, but
40:36
they really, it's interesting that they
40:39
decided to use this not
40:41
just as a rollout for the M4,
40:43
but also to start promoting it as
40:45
like the next generation of Apple Silicon,
40:47
given that it's really hard
40:50
to come up with stuff to really show it
40:52
off for. They did mention things like being
40:54
in Final Cut and being able to isolate like
40:56
a dancing figure and put on a new background
40:58
just by touching one button and there are other
41:00
parts in a demo like that, but that's not
41:03
a whole lot of people are saying, gee, I really,
41:05
really wish I could do that kind of pro level
41:07
editing on an iPad. There are a lot of people
41:09
that are saying, well, I'm going to spend that much
41:11
money and get again a Windows Notebook. They'll do a
41:13
lot of the same things for it. They
41:15
did show though at the
41:17
rock climbing wall, people shooting
41:20
and then editing video with Final Cut. They
41:22
have updated Final Cut Pro too for this.
41:25
They clearly think that that's a market.
41:29
To be fair, they know who's buying these things and
41:31
they know that that's why they
41:33
keep the iPad Air is like so vibrant.
41:35
There are people who want that extra level
41:37
of performance, extra push over the cliff and
41:40
there are the other people who are just using it
41:42
to take notes in class, watch videos, play games. There's
41:44
also a call out for the gaming capabilities
41:46
of this thing with what the
41:48
M4 and the other capabilities would let you do.
41:50
So I think that but they kept that to
41:53
the iPad Air section of the talk and it
41:55
kept the iPad Pro for Final Cut. Yeah.
42:00
Gieserner says, I can't wait to see how
42:02
much faster I can write in Scrivner on
42:04
my new iPad Pro. It's
42:07
funny when a lot of
42:09
the conversation around the pro or the not pro
42:11
is always about productivity. The people don't talk about
42:13
what type of productivity you're doing. If
42:16
you're doing everything in Notion or
42:19
Evernote or something of that nature,
42:21
then yeah, maybe it doesn't matter. But
42:24
if your productivity is based
42:26
around SketchUp or they
42:28
showed... Not Blender, they showed ZBrush, some
42:31
other things like that, those all count.
42:33
Those all count and they do actually
42:36
tax pretty hard. If you're a logic
42:38
person and you're running pretty heavy logic
42:40
action, which a lot as an ex-DJ,
42:42
I would tell you a lot of
42:44
music people use iPads, what
42:47
happens, the general tech
42:49
person in our circle and
42:51
the general, the YouTuber, also
42:53
my circle, they always talk about
42:55
it like the way it matches them. People
42:58
forget about Bechtel who's doing civil
43:00
engineering and their iPads are running
43:03
really high level tests. People
43:05
forget about all the restaurants, which
43:08
is why you want 128 gigabyte bottle because all
43:11
they do is use them for retail. And they
43:13
run one app and one app only. People
43:16
forget about education, healthcare, occupational
43:19
therapy, all the things that you use
43:21
an iPad for other than you just
43:23
use it to watch Netflix. And I
43:25
get that and knock yourself out player.
43:28
Don't be like Apple doesn't have the knowledge
43:30
of who they're selling to when they make
43:32
these devices and it cracks me up every
43:34
time because people always have these weird hot
43:36
takes. And one
43:39
of the ones was, why put the
43:41
M4 in this first? Wow, what a
43:43
great test bed where you're less likely
43:45
to have full scale meltdown is in
43:48
iPads and collect all the
43:50
data and then make adjustments and then get
43:52
ready for it to end up in what
43:54
will probably be the air next or the
43:56
MacBook Pros that we'll probably see in the
43:59
middle of June. Well, that's going to be a
44:01
challenge for them because they have Mac. They
44:04
have M threes to put out still. I
44:07
mean, are you going to get, they skipped
44:09
them three with this. Do you think they're just going to
44:11
skip M three entirely for the rest of the line? There
44:13
won't be an M three iMac. There won't be an M three
44:15
mini. There won't be an M three Mac
44:17
pro. They'll just go right to four everywhere. Yeah.
44:20
This studio right here needs, needs a ball
44:22
pin. So like I'm assuming, you know, it
44:24
just hit his second birthday. Happy birthday. It'd
44:26
be hard to sell an M three Mac
44:28
studio. Wouldn't it? Yeah.
44:31
So you have to go to M four. Yeah. Like now
44:33
that I know this exists when they told me, Hey, here's
44:35
a brand new M three max studio, I'll be like, what
44:37
are you talking about with this? And
44:41
so it could just be pure nomenclature. Maybe
44:43
it doesn't have to do anything, but like
44:46
now it has to be an M four
44:48
M five max studio, I definitely don't want
44:50
M train. Sorry. Well, the other
44:52
thing is it's going to be very hard to
44:54
run the traditional industry benchmarks on an iPad. So,
44:58
you know, we may not, this may be a chance
45:00
for Apple to release the M four without
45:02
getting a whole bunch of information. I
45:05
mean, I, I hope a non-tech can somehow
45:08
do something with his M four to find
45:10
out what's really going on. Is it just,
45:13
there it is. Is it just a, uh,
45:15
and, uh, the new three nanometer, neater
45:18
node and M three. It
45:20
doesn't, it seems like it's got
45:22
the same basic features.
45:25
Yes. Um,
45:27
well, the neural engine is again, they spent a
45:29
lot of time trying to convince us that this
45:32
was something brand new and something really revolutionary. And
45:34
I think 38 top was the same number for
45:36
the M three. I don't know. Um,
45:39
I don't know. The one that strikes me is
45:41
the, is the 120 gigabytes
45:44
per second unified memory. Like
45:46
this is quick. Yeah. Yeah.
45:49
Let me, let me look here. This is the M
45:51
three max. So that's 12 core. Um,
45:59
yeah, I mean, I guess it's not. I
46:01
guess it's the next one. I
46:04
don't know. I don't know. We
46:07
have to really get our hands on these before
46:09
we can know what's going on. I mean,
46:11
it's hard to... I mean, everything is a hot
46:13
take, like two hours after the announcement. Right.
46:17
But it's like I actually... I did take down the
46:19
quote because it was a very stick out your neck
46:21
sort of thing. They're saying that about
46:24
the M4's neural engine, more powerful
46:26
than any neural processing unit in
46:28
any PC today, which sounds like...
46:31
Yeah, have some surf for those waffles.
46:33
But nonetheless, that is at least... If
46:35
they're trying to say something about whether it's the state of the art in
46:37
May of 2024, it's kind of... It's
46:40
an ambitious statement. We'll see
46:42
if it holds up when people start tearing this thing
46:44
down. I mean, I'll be honest. I'm just buying it
46:46
for the tandem OLED display. And
46:50
Scooter mentioned something that I also mentioned in my person...
46:52
I was yelling at somebody with the hot takes. They're
46:54
like, well, I can't... I was like, you know that
46:57
we were running this stuff on iOS and iPad
46:59
devices before it made it to the max, like
47:01
in October 2020, right? And
47:04
of course, dead silence after that. But
47:07
yeah, we got to where we are
47:09
in the computers because of iPads. All
47:11
right. So here's some numbers from Anand
47:13
Tech. The
47:16
A17 is 35 tops,
47:18
35 trillion operations per second.
47:23
The M3 is actually considerably
47:25
slower, 18 trillion operations
47:27
per second. So when Apple says
47:30
38 trillion operations per second, that
47:33
is a big jump from M2 and M3.
47:37
And so maybe this really is Apple's
47:40
AI chip that's all in the neural
47:42
engine. Also, it's going to
47:44
have to be. Especially where
47:46
AI is concerned, we're not talking about features that
47:48
are going to see the light of day even
47:50
this year. I mean, okay, we don't know what
47:52
Apple is going to be announcing in June. So
47:54
we don't know what we're going to be seeing
47:56
in the new iPadOS. But yeah,
47:58
if people are going to be starting... It's going to be
48:01
expected to get three, five, six years out of this
48:03
device. They're going to have to be able to
48:05
run those AI models that Apple is planning for three years from
48:07
now. So this could see
48:09
headroom that's quickly going to be consumed
48:11
because ambition requires headroom.
48:14
Can I do pedantic pushback? Pedantic
48:17
pushback please. Apple has
48:19
been running AI on phones for quite a
48:21
long time. All of that stuff that's happening
48:23
to your pictures and all of that, that's
48:25
still considered AI. So we're
48:28
going to be using Gen AI or LLMs and
48:30
we're going to specify which to specify because honestly
48:32
they've been doing AI-oriented stuff on these tips for
48:34
quite a long time. Yeah, but
48:37
LLMs and stuff that Apple's pursuing and
48:39
Google's pursuing and Microsoft's pursuing, it has
48:41
a lot more like ram overhead. You
48:44
really... It really... And
48:46
again, Apple, it looks like Apple is going
48:48
to be pushing their advantage that, hey, we're
48:50
trying... We're going to be
48:52
a privacy-oriented approach to AI.
48:54
We're going to do as much on device
48:56
as possible. There was
48:59
a new rumor today or yesterday that they're designing
49:02
chips for
49:04
compute plants, but it looks like
49:06
they're trying to keep this as personal, as private as
49:08
possible. If so, machine language models are
49:11
not... Machine learning models are going to be
49:13
okay for photos. They're not going to
49:15
be okay for... Here's a
49:17
thousand emails. Tell me... Give
49:19
me a record of all the appointments I've got related to this
49:21
project in the next three weeks. I
49:23
was thinking of telling us in the Discord
49:26
that the Intel Ultra chips are 11 trillion
49:30
operations per second. So
49:32
what is a big job at that 30... What
49:34
I'm going to add, Andy, sorry, is that when you
49:36
take a photo and it fixes the photo, you take a
49:39
photo in the dark and it fixes the photo, that is
49:41
AI. I mean, it's a little
49:43
bit of neural and machine learning. But because
49:45
somebody in the chat goes, what assistance do
49:47
they have? AI doesn't mean assistant. AI is...
49:50
That's what I'm saying. We should
49:52
specify if we mean agents or
49:55
LLMs or what everybody considers chat
49:57
GPT. I
49:59
just want to remind... everybody that your I've always been fixing
50:01
those photos since I think like 10 oh
50:03
yeah maybe 11 yeah but you can now do more look what they did you
50:05
see what
50:10
they showed with the final cut with him
50:12
in a moving movie they were able to
50:15
drop the background out in real time so
50:18
beautiful yeah I hope that's really it's you're
50:21
right it is over look up the
50:23
fact that Apple hasn't anything flashy in
50:25
the last two years with this again
50:28
which with a technology that was kind
50:30
of premature and that Google really left
50:32
the took the took put
50:34
the satellite and wrote it hard only after
50:36
they saw a competition from open AI this
50:38
is really premature technology it shouldn't really be
50:41
used as consumer level product
50:43
just yet but realize
50:45
that the AI or the machine
50:47
learning that's being used in in photo
50:49
processing is tuned for photo processing and they
50:51
can't really they can't just the CPUs
50:54
that they made the Apple silicon they
50:56
made to print to handle those kind
50:58
of tasks are not necessarily going to
51:00
be okay for the stuff that people
51:02
might be expecting as the table stakes
51:04
features and any desktop or mobile operating
51:06
system going forward early on in the
51:08
presentation today Tim Cook did say we
51:10
have been doing machine
51:12
learning in our chips law you know for a
51:15
long time like that you want to make sure
51:17
that everyone understood and it's really true I've
51:19
said it many times that Apple's put neural processing
51:21
units in its chips for
51:24
several years right the I
51:26
can't remember which the first iPhone chip was
51:28
to have it but it's been around for
51:30
a long time so they in that respect
51:32
they have a lead in AI they've been
51:34
doing AI hardware for a long time Intel
51:36
is just putting what
51:38
they call NPUs into
51:40
into their processors Qualcomm's
51:42
new Snapdragon elites are
51:45
gonna have NPUs and
51:47
Microsoft's all excited about this NPU but Apple's been
51:49
doing it for a long time they're kind of
51:52
well settled in on this I think
51:54
that there are the others go ahead Micah I
51:57
was just gonna say well it is true yes
51:59
absolutely And Apple likes to make it very clear
52:01
that they've been doing AI that
52:04
they lovingly have called machine learning for
52:06
so long. And that's why they've got
52:08
CoreML baked into the various
52:11
operating systems. But I
52:14
hear that refrain a lot
52:16
from people who are champions
52:19
of Apple. And while
52:22
it is true they've been doing machine learning for
52:24
a long time, I don't think it matters in
52:28
the scheme of things in the sense that
52:30
what people are talking about when it
52:32
comes to what they are expecting Apple
52:35
to do, which is a
52:38
heavy focus on generative AI. And
52:40
the other companies are much further
52:42
ahead in at the
52:44
very least having products and features
52:47
available to market that
52:50
are generative AI features. So we can say
52:52
that Apple has been doing this forever. But
52:56
in the grand scheme of things, that
52:58
just doesn't matter because until we see
53:00
this generative AI, we haven't seen
53:02
them do generative AI. That's got to happen.
53:05
But the general people don't know to specify it. So
53:09
it sounds disingenuous, but yes. That's
53:14
why we should talk about features
53:16
and not core technologies. Like
53:19
just the simple, even if we
53:21
limit things to photo editing, just
53:23
the simple ability to recognize an
53:25
object in a flat field
53:27
of pixels, that is an immense
53:29
power lever. That
53:31
is the ability to simply say, I
53:33
just want these changes to affect this
53:35
person holding the baseball bat in the
53:37
foreground and not any other people who
53:39
are in baseball uniforms in the background.
53:42
And then I can adjust the slider however I want.
53:44
That is huge. And
53:48
I often judge the impact of
53:50
a feature by people who
53:52
ask me, hey, how
53:54
is your phone doing that? And
53:56
sometimes it'll happen on an iPhone. Sometimes it'll happen
53:59
on my Pixel phone. And one
54:01
of the most revolutionary features
54:03
to succeed there was
54:05
just the ability on the first
54:07
generation of pixels I could say, oh, by the way, I
54:10
really wish that that dog weren't taking a leak against
54:12
that tree in the background, that photo of my kid
54:15
at the park. Oh, well, that's okay.
54:17
Just circle it and just simply click erase. And
54:19
suddenly that dog ain't there no more. And
54:22
it will just, and not just simply blurring
54:24
it out and identifying the outline of the
54:26
shape, but also real guys, but okay, there's
54:28
grass behind him. There's a tree in front
54:30
of him. That's how you fill
54:32
that sort of thing out. So yeah, people
54:35
aren't interested in knowing what kind of neural engine
54:37
it has, what the performance
54:40
is, what models it's running. They do
54:42
care when all of a sudden, like
54:44
in the WhatsApp chat
54:47
for the family, all of
54:49
your pictures look awesome, like
54:51
10 minutes after the cookout and everybody else's
54:54
pictures are like, bleh. That's
54:57
the revenge of the green bubble
55:00
right there. The other shoe is
55:02
still to drop because we
55:04
haven't heard anything about iPadOS 18. And
55:07
all of that's going to be next month, months from
55:09
now at WWDC, iOS 18 and iPadOS And
55:13
all the rumors are that these are going to
55:15
be heavily AI focused. What I would say is,
55:19
you know, you're absolutely right, Andy, people look at the
55:21
features, people look at what you can do. I
55:24
still think though that we are right on
55:26
the cusp of
55:28
these little chat AI bots, these LLM
55:30
things, which are pretty much toys
55:32
at this point. We are on the cusp
55:35
of truly intelligent
55:37
assistants. And
55:39
I think Apple would, I think Apple
55:41
knows that they certainly got the research
55:43
team working on it, but they
55:45
haven't said anything about it. I think they want to
55:47
be there when that happens. I don't know if they
55:49
want to be there with Siri or something else. Apple's
55:52
Gemini just replaced for me, and I
55:54
bet for you too, Andy, on your
55:56
Pixel, the Google Assistant.
56:00
Gemini if you want you don't have to and
56:03
that's a big step up and I think
56:05
we're I really think we're just I don't
56:09
months maybe a year away from true AI
56:11
assistance and I think that's when I
56:15
every time I buy an iPad I'm
56:18
buying it for the future I'm so
56:20
far completely disappointed but
56:25
I always buy into the idea
56:27
the future is very disappointing yeah
56:29
there we are but
56:31
I always find it the apples proposal that
56:35
we are making state-of-the-art hardware
56:37
for shooting the puck where
56:39
it's going you know we're trying to get
56:41
ahead of the game yeah they've yet to
56:43
come I mean maybe this new final cut
56:45
and logic will will start to make that
56:47
a reality it's not entirely their fault because
56:49
developers have to follow suit
56:51
procreate I noticed they really pushed
56:53
procreate through this whole thing starting
56:56
with the invitation I imagine they're doing something
56:58
interesting with a new pencil but the developers
57:00
have to come up with this maybe
57:03
they have to make some changes to iPad
57:05
OS that make it more like a desktop
57:08
operating system file a file system would be
57:10
nice accessible
57:12
well yeah I mean this could be this
57:14
is where this is the best cycle for
57:16
any new technology the hype cycle right
57:19
because we can because we can basically be hopeful with
57:21
because it's going to take a while for actual results
57:23
to come in but this could be as big a
57:26
revolution as the graphical user interface that
57:28
before everything you did was typed on a command
57:30
line you had a no command you couldn't just
57:32
see what you wanted to do and click on
57:34
it and that totally changed
57:37
everything and I hope the
57:39
part of an upcoming revolution
57:41
is kind of like the
57:43
diminishing of the of the dominance of
57:45
apps just as a construct the ability
57:47
to having the ability of an assistant
57:50
that's so intelligent that you can do
57:52
things like like every time that
57:54
I usually spend the morning before each show going
57:57
through all the bookmarks of news items that
57:59
I've bookmarked and things I've taken notes on and
58:01
things that I've jotted down here and there.
58:04
And I have to look through all this source stuff
58:06
and I figure out what do I want to contribute
58:08
to the show doc, what it's going to be, what
58:10
turned out to be kind of nothing. And that takes
58:12
me an amount of time. But across three or four
58:15
different apps, imagine the ability to simply wake up, check
58:18
to make sure I did not sleep until 1.30
58:20
in the afternoon or half before the show, make
58:22
sure there's no construction noise that's driving me to
58:25
a public library instead of my office, and
58:27
then simply summarize all of my notes
58:29
and all of my Mac and Apple related news and
58:32
put it inside a Google doc so I can take a look at
58:35
it in the next 20 minutes. And
58:37
again, not necessarily doing it all on its
58:39
own, but knowing what apps are going to
58:41
manage that, knowing what databases, all that stuff
58:44
is in there so that I never
58:46
actually have to float through all
58:48
those apps I used to create that content. And it can
58:50
do that for me. And Andy, what device do you think
58:53
it's most likely to do that on? Probably
58:57
a mobile device, probably a
59:00
phone device. I mean, the AI
59:04
assistant hardware pins and little cute little rapid
59:06
devices, they're abject failures right now. I don't
59:08
think they're necessary, so I think that's something
59:10
that can be handled by a phone. But
59:13
the idea of having a very, very personal
59:15
item that is not just like this floating
59:17
thing that I have to have my laptop
59:19
in front of me or connect to the
59:21
cloud, that this is something that is on
59:24
my purse and at all times is the first thing I pick up and take a look
59:26
at. It's the thing that wakes me up in the morning. It
59:29
seems like that's the most appropriate device
59:31
to run a model like that on, even
59:34
if it's connecting to the cloud. Because as
59:37
much as I don't like the idea of personifying
59:40
a technology, I think
59:43
that when you have an industrial
59:45
robot that everyone's trying to
59:48
make right now, the Boston robotics
59:52
got kind of in Dutch because they had the new
59:54
version of their Atlas robot and the face, quote unquote,
59:56
is just like a circle. And I'm saying, yes, do
59:58
not put a human face on this Do not let
1:00:00
us do not let us form an
1:00:02
emotional attachment to these things But the ability to
1:00:04
simply say this is something that is part of
1:00:06
my daily carry. It's something that's familiar with me
1:00:08
I've customized it with my own case I have
1:00:10
my own wallpaper on it and I can infuse
1:00:12
a certain amount of trust in it that when
1:00:14
I ask it to do something For me it
1:00:16
knows what I want. It knows my habits It
1:00:18
knows what the intent of this command is not
1:00:20
just the function It seems like a very
1:00:22
very appropriate place for that to happen and maybe it'll
1:00:24
set it to the iPad for reading You know, maybe
1:00:26
it won't I don't know. Yeah, maybe that's
1:00:31
Continuity is one of the best technologies Apple has
1:00:33
ever come up with and back
1:00:35
when we thought that oh wow Isn't that nice?
1:00:37
I can be I can continue reading a Safari
1:00:40
or Safari a page
1:00:42
on my desktop But no, the ability
1:00:44
that this is one you have one
1:00:46
big sticky ball of rice that consists
1:00:49
of all of your Apple stuff Right
1:00:51
now I've got only the
1:00:53
idea of having a two-screen set up for
1:00:55
this podcast Like five years ago would
1:00:57
have been just such overkill
1:01:00
and so ridiculous But as
1:01:02
I again realized that I found out that I
1:01:04
wasn't gonna be able to use my home office
1:01:07
45 minutes before the show and so
1:01:09
I just grabbed where I needed put my
1:01:12
bag But the fact that I grabbed my
1:01:14
iPad Pro means that I just got can
1:01:16
simply use that as a second screen That
1:01:18
is extra value So yeah That is something
1:01:20
that Apple could contribute by distributing the AI
1:01:22
load across multiple different devices and it's what
1:01:24
it's one of the reasons why I'm very
1:01:26
very pleased with my As
1:01:28
much as I can rail against Apple's
1:01:31
lock-in on so many of these topics we talked
1:01:33
about That's one of the
1:01:35
big paybacks. You're making a good
1:01:37
transaction there. I'm giving up control over my
1:01:39
hardware However, it's doing stuff that only one
1:01:42
unified manufacturer and offering system creator can
1:01:44
actually create So yeah, maybe Apple is
1:01:46
in a position where they could do
1:01:48
things with AI through continuity that That
1:01:52
Google really can't match that Microsoft really
1:01:54
can't match German obviously knew something because
1:01:56
in his Sunday Power on
1:01:59
newsletter his headline Apple's new iPad
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Pro should turn device into true
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laptop replacement and I think he
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kind of nailed the message
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of this morning's announced. We're gonna take a little break when we
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come back. Let's talk about Apple's Pro
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Pencil and the new features they're
1:02:15
on. You're watching Mac Break Weekly with
1:02:19
three great people. Jason Snell is
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missing in action probably in Cupertino.
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Alex Lindsay we don't know where he is but
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good news Doc Rock sitting in. Great
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to have you in the Jason Snell seat
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right, so Pencil Yes,
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we're going to the pencil. We didn't talk
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about the thinness of the iPad Pro Yeah,
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the thinnest iPad fact the apples are the
1:05:33
thinnest device we've ever made period so it's
1:05:36
so it's thinner and lighter than the air
1:05:41
Yes, that's that's confusing but okay, that's that's
1:05:43
something you may have a chortle about but
1:05:45
then move on about it's like I'm I
1:05:47
I hope I'm looking
1:05:49
forward to holding it and seeing if it
1:05:52
feels thinner and it feels lighter I think
1:05:54
it's I think it's like a quarter pound
1:05:56
lighter 1.28 pounds for the inch,
1:06:00
5 millimeters thick which
1:06:02
is pretty thin. That's
1:06:05
suspiciously thin. That's like, I
1:06:08
mean, I would love it
1:06:10
if they did say during
1:06:12
the event that, hey, it's
1:06:14
just as durable as the
1:06:16
previous generation. Yeah, don't bend.
1:06:19
Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like I'm
1:06:21
just, I've had my pro
1:06:23
for what, two or three years now.
1:06:25
I'm just now sort of okay with
1:06:27
the idea of having it in an
1:06:30
overstuffed laptop bag and not being concerned that's going
1:06:32
to bend because I've got like a whole bunch of
1:06:34
books and a bunch of other stuff in it. You
1:06:37
make that even thinner and I have
1:06:39
to admit that I would be waiting. I'm going to wait.
1:06:42
If I were considering upgrading, I'd be
1:06:44
waiting three or four months to find
1:06:47
out are these things going wibbly wobbly
1:06:49
after like a month in people's bags
1:06:51
because it doesn't matter if
1:06:53
it only bent a little bit and it doesn't
1:06:55
affect performance. The first time you put
1:06:57
that on a table and it goes, digga digga, digga
1:07:00
digga digga, the first time you put it down,
1:07:02
you see a tiny little curve and it's like
1:07:04
when you buy a record, it's
1:07:06
either flat or it's not flat and
1:07:08
if it's not flat, you're unhappy. Yeah,
1:07:10
you call it thin gate, Doc Rock. Yeah,
1:07:13
I was like, I'm just waiting for somebody
1:07:15
to come out. People
1:07:17
are always gating something so now we're going to
1:07:19
be on thin gate. Oh, it's fun, Doc. YouTuber
1:07:22
will bend it. We know that. Don't
1:07:24
do this. That's silly. So that's how you know Andy.
1:07:26
All I did was sit on it. I
1:07:29
can't believe a $1500 tablet you
1:07:31
can't sit on. What's Apple playing at? Well,
1:07:33
here's the thing that's crazy, Andy. The
1:07:36
13 inch is thinner than the
1:07:39
11 inch and I'm
1:07:41
like, mama say what? That's
1:07:43
crazy. Well, it's got more space. You could spread
1:07:46
the components out. Honestly,
1:07:49
this is Apple capitalizing on the fact that
1:07:51
the M4, like all the Apple Silicon,
1:07:54
is a system on a chip. Everything's in there. Yeah.
1:07:57
So it can be. I'm sure the die isn't very thick. You've
1:08:00
got the memory in there. You got everything in there Well
1:08:04
everything everything except for headphone jack. Yeah,
1:08:06
this is still I will I will simply
1:08:08
note it and move on but now now
1:08:10
with The discontinuation of the previous iPad nothing
1:08:12
this it's not only not only that will
1:08:14
get rid of all lightning Jacks
1:08:16
not only did they get rid of all like
1:08:19
home buttons But now there are no more iPads
1:08:21
that have headphone jacks I think that's that's
1:08:23
disappointing because it's still a super super useful thing to
1:08:26
have but at least now they can say that well
1:08:28
Look, it's not there is it's not thin. It's not
1:08:30
thick enough to support a headphone jack So maybe I'll
1:08:32
give them a mulligan on that but
1:08:34
yeah, it's it's I again I can't wait to
1:08:36
get my hands on it if it does this
1:08:38
the thing is like I The
1:08:42
obvious take would be especially on a 13-inch Tablet
1:08:45
that you're probably not gonna be spending a
1:08:47
whole lot of time like lifting it like holding
1:08:49
it in two hands as opposed to lift Resting
1:08:51
on something but some people do and
1:08:53
even if you're standing up and taking notes with it Or even
1:08:55
if you've got the bottom of it leaned against the table and
1:08:57
you're taking notes on it there's something about
1:09:00
the hand feel of a device that is
1:09:03
it's such a big contributor to the pleasure that
1:09:05
you take in using it and I've
1:09:08
never noticed that the my iPad
1:09:10
Pro is particularly chunky But
1:09:12
if it's thin enough to make me notice
1:09:14
that wow This is a more pleasant experience
1:09:16
or to sort of telegraph that. Wow, this
1:09:19
really is a premium product They could have they they
1:09:22
the cheaper version of this or God forbid
1:09:24
an Android tablet From Samsung
1:09:26
is much thicker and much it's easy to
1:09:28
manipulate, but it doesn't feel like a premium
1:09:30
object That's part of the entire
1:09:32
sum total. It makes something into a pro the
1:09:34
idea that from top to bottom soup to nuts
1:09:37
This is a premium product and we does make
1:09:39
you wonder what the air what air means if
1:09:41
it's heavier Heavier
1:09:49
what are they talking about? Yeah, it just
1:09:51
means fresh air fresh air reason and
1:09:54
of course everybody's are losing it over
1:09:56
the colors of the air and Again,
1:10:00
like, you know, they're trying to... Not in a
1:10:02
good way, by the way. They don't like the
1:10:05
colors of me. Nobody likes the colors. But trust
1:10:07
me, I want to just make these decisions. There
1:10:09
was some thought into it. And at the end
1:10:11
of the day, I know that my pro has
1:10:14
been in the skin since the
1:10:16
day I got it. And,
1:10:18
you know, it's 40. What
1:10:20
do people like about the colors? You're too washed out? Is
1:10:22
that it? Yeah, that
1:10:25
color purple is just kind
1:10:27
of... Well, it's purple on
1:10:29
the screen, but the actual color is more...
1:10:32
His royal badness would not approve of that use
1:10:34
of that word. Yeah. Me
1:10:36
neither, because I was very disappointed with my
1:10:38
purple iPhone, because it was cool for
1:10:41
like a second. And then it was. Don't
1:10:43
these look exactly like the previous
1:10:45
models of the iPad Pro? I
1:10:49
mean, I think they basically use...
1:10:51
It's Breath of Lavender. Breath of... Breath
1:10:54
of Lavender. Breath of Lavender. That
1:11:00
sounds like when I'm packing for like a
1:11:02
10-day destination wedding on my mood board. Like,
1:11:04
okay, Tuesday, our theme is Breath of Lavender.
1:11:06
So pretty though. I don't need the coolant.
1:11:08
I don't need the coolant. I need the
1:11:11
coolant. You don't want it saturated. I think
1:11:13
that would be... No. Some
1:11:15
people do. It's the air. It's the... Have
1:11:18
you seen the IMAX? They're rich
1:11:20
in color. They're beautiful. Yeah.
1:11:23
Yeah. And I agree with you.
1:11:25
It's a $29-salve, bro. D-brand
1:11:28
skin. Slap it on there or some
1:11:30
other brand skin. True. They're
1:11:32
gorgeous. It's work. Yeah.
1:11:34
Put a D-brand on it. Yeah. Another
1:11:37
ad for something that we don't get any money
1:11:39
for. I
1:11:42
feel like all of us tech people have
1:11:44
it though, just because we're likely to resell
1:11:46
our gear. I do not have any D-brand
1:11:48
on mine. I have... Really? I
1:11:51
use a different company, but I mean, all the same. Just
1:11:53
pick one. No. My
1:11:56
Neighbor is a car-wrapped guy, so I can literally just take it
1:11:58
over there and be like, wrap my iPad. He
1:12:00
can visit hard to wrap on those and those
1:12:02
things as they know that the type of three
1:12:05
am it is. you just put it on and
1:12:07
then you hit it with a little hair dryer
1:12:09
and and oh it's ringside as a slinky as
1:12:11
rain saw it on and so you're as as
1:12:13
as duel in or open to the public blade.
1:12:16
It's just enough that I got one scratch on
1:12:18
a high bad years ago and a like never
1:12:20
again sub always is with the thinnest govern it
1:12:22
has been to their normal, probably resell it. Ah,
1:12:26
Or i well I better go look for skin
1:12:28
and they have like cool looking. Skin.
1:12:31
You seem minor my I may or
1:12:33
my Macbook Air Members has entered skin
1:12:35
on it for the Army Air Space
1:12:37
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1:12:41
emerald on my buddy and
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and cycling ascribing says residents
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you say it off his
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skin. says. Siskin.
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ones are fist in be brand
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ends as like ramp. But anyway
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there are as three Am semitism
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three absolutely craps that. so did
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my liquor. And while you're good
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see he knows them all. And.
1:13:08
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the. Incessant zero
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look. These are pretty that they have all sorts
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of. Is yours looks really
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cool? My. Second on razr of
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for a he was used as exists and
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I'm I want to have you known as
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it or him and his face on the
1:13:25
bathroom is no idea that I found that
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annoying to but the retro line it's all
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the way down the bottom on the right.
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right retro. He. Almost had
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any my address or less his.
1:13:42
This. Looks
1:13:45
like an old manager for I've got one
1:13:47
for my bad nothing. ah nine mb apple
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pencil actually which is kinda fun. The
1:13:52
Raptor movie directed all while in my like
1:13:54
about i don't know theater company to this.
1:13:56
They probably do the one I like but
1:13:59
Slick wraps his. If you mess up
1:14:01
gag, give them a message and let them know
1:14:03
and I'll send you another one for free. I
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don't know. I go admitted Adelson and. Do.
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Actually hit it with her hair dryer. Really? That's
1:14:10
what you do notice when you don't have to
1:14:13
in reserves or to their said i'm already dusty
1:14:15
brands to do that. The shrinking
1:14:17
not as if you wanted to do a
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car abstain be is no god sizes desert
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Cnc good. So they're prince. Oh okay, I
1:14:24
get what you're saying. I get
1:14:26
that looks pretty cool or ass as where
1:14:28
you have myself and that's what I did
1:14:30
for. I've been trying to find have an
1:14:32
account I'll never find it but there's this
1:14:35
is a recount. there's a cup you did
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I gave a series of like Frog Design
1:14:39
inspired wraps for like Mac book for I
1:14:41
pad for I phones and I am I.
1:14:43
I'm old school in the sense that I
1:14:46
have such an abiding love for Frog Design,
1:14:48
a girl front design max and the to
1:14:50
see the to see I have a sort
1:14:52
of stuff. that's that as a certain Jenny
1:14:55
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a steady? Say what? I.
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deadpan. saw. Ah,
1:15:07
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are wrapped up in our last guy
1:15:11
was a teenager. Ah, it's so consider
1:15:14
using that apple. Actually had to make
1:15:16
a charts. To show
1:15:18
you all the different, there's four of them
1:15:20
now. And. So they say made
1:15:22
a chart on their website so you can. Figure.
1:15:25
Out which pencil you want? There's.
1:15:28
A pencil Pro: That's the new
1:15:30
one. Second generation pencil U S
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B C Pencil and first generation
1:15:35
pencil. And
1:15:39
it's and and it's not as it's in.
1:15:41
The problem is that this isn't like oh
1:15:43
well for extra features for extra performance you
1:15:45
can get it's know we have as we
1:15:48
have incompatible tonsils for each. Yeah, you're right
1:15:50
as us and Uk educate and the thing
1:15:52
is when I upgrade to the next I
1:15:54
pad I'm going to have to buy a
1:15:57
new pencil. To actually use it for a
1:15:59
lot of in Watson. Yeah, that's
1:16:01
that's Obama. Yeah, it's messy. I
1:16:03
agree that it's very messy. Yeah,
1:16:05
you gets not just like these
1:16:07
of the features that I'd like
1:16:09
to have and I've got an
1:16:11
eyepatch no no no no is
1:16:14
to check all that compatibility arm.
1:16:16
It's still unclear whether this new
1:16:18
Apple Pencil Pro features an ulcer
1:16:20
wide been ship inside while we
1:16:22
as mine mine mine Because we
1:16:24
have and we have that feature
1:16:26
for the Apple Tv remotes. But
1:16:29
that find my is not using
1:16:31
Ultra wideband, it is just using
1:16:33
Bluetooth Sigmoid. So. I would
1:16:35
like to know and maybe I fix
1:16:37
it. Will end up telling us Ah
1:16:39
yes, there is ultra wideband in the.
1:16:42
Arm. Apple pencil, although as
1:16:44
good rex points out, there is no
1:16:46
you. W. B. chip in the new
1:16:48
I pads pro how, so that's indicative
1:16:50
I would. Yeah. I think that's
1:16:52
it's a little tight Mary Been though we
1:16:55
still have a pretty good video of the
1:16:57
inside of is so new features are Squeeze
1:16:59
you could squeeze it. And they they
1:17:01
are. They're gonna call a squeeze. I
1:17:03
guess what I'm doing: double Tap, which
1:17:05
is the featured, it's already existed. The
1:17:07
gesture that already exists and is not
1:17:09
the best gesture says now you have
1:17:11
squeeze which senses your squeeze and brings
1:17:13
up a new palette depending on the
1:17:16
saw freezing. Other nearly as better, right?
1:17:18
Because when I try to do the
1:17:20
double tap, I'm reducing the sort of
1:17:22
leverage that I have on the pencil
1:17:24
While dinner double tap it's I like
1:17:26
this. I don't have to take my
1:17:28
fingers off of it. I've seen people
1:17:30
complain about double tap this and I'm
1:17:32
working that one. We'll. Be unwieldy. That's
1:17:34
a good word for Barrel Roll
1:17:36
and New Gyroscope. Who is a
1:17:38
gyroscope? Lazio rotate the pencil which
1:17:40
is really cool for calligraphy but
1:17:42
also for moving objects around and
1:17:44
so forth that sesame need I
1:17:46
think Madness. especially with a brush
1:17:48
that's gonna be amicable. Not yeah,
1:17:50
yeah, nothing. Med Andra. First thing
1:17:52
that Putnam I hear when he
1:17:54
did Barrel Roll is armed from.
1:17:57
Er zum Icons he and I and as
1:17:59
a. Barry is very ugly committed yeah
1:18:01
it is. Click It is gonna give return
1:18:03
as they are but it's very important that
1:18:05
you can just go quarters of a certain
1:18:07
way as a good completely changed what a
1:18:09
character is sign and so without their barrel
1:18:11
roll is hard to tell citizens to recycle
1:18:14
when we did or learn Chinese characters is
1:18:16
same exact thing and use a brush is
1:18:18
no other way to do at ease breasts
1:18:20
and the number the order you do it
1:18:22
in the way you do it and a
1:18:24
stroke and so forth absolutely comes to service
1:18:26
the meaning so. Because currency
1:18:28
is to discuss this rice I
1:18:30
know that that's it's. the Japanese
1:18:32
version and it's a much poorer
1:18:34
for Cap appears in and lights
1:18:36
up. I have no idea. Skeptic:
1:18:38
See bag is cool people. were
1:18:40
hoping there be a little buzz
1:18:43
in the pencil. Ah,
1:18:45
Ah when you squeeze or double tap
1:18:47
you feel light pulse. confirming
1:18:49
the axis. Just an
1:18:51
all. That. Is it actually in a
1:18:53
lineup? So I don't think so. Thus, If
1:18:57
if it lights up, dominant about had a
1:18:59
bucket of sand, confessed that someone. On
1:19:02
sp. Have very
1:19:04
little there. Are, so that's that's good
1:19:07
and the double tap is still there. See have.
1:19:09
An three new features. I'm
1:19:11
night and excellent. There's no smooth
1:19:13
and have a nice little thing
1:19:15
where developers can create like customer
1:19:17
interaction so they can treat their
1:19:19
own kind of interface with how
1:19:21
these things actually interact with. So
1:19:23
wakes rumors about whether the barrel
1:19:25
rolls will control breast. Brush.
1:19:28
Angle of Attack or whether will simply use
1:19:30
bring up like a Pack A to power.
1:19:32
They could simply scroll through like that's and
1:19:34
I'm I'm really keen to see Apple's try
1:19:37
to extend the user interface into hardware and
1:19:39
seems like an early we did actually tried
1:19:41
to do that. they did. They mention procreates.
1:19:43
Oh it's. When the first a scanner exiting
1:19:45
an endless. Ah
1:19:48
is it and I'm super I'm always
1:19:50
surprised to see eyes a brave support
1:19:52
on Patron A lot of artists as
1:19:54
when my favorite groups to support unpatriotic
1:19:56
and off timetables they really a little
1:19:58
shit or older. I pad pro like
1:20:00
kids with each other and the number
1:20:02
of times you see these artists who
1:20:04
have amazing experience with like traditional are
1:20:06
tools and or solution for a lot
1:20:08
of different things on the I pad
1:20:10
are to just keep doing it and
1:20:12
racing it and doing and risk until
1:20:14
you get the line you wait for
1:20:16
the just feel like he believed have
1:20:18
this level of control even if they
1:20:20
have to learn like the new techniques
1:20:22
and learn a new ways of manipulating
1:20:25
the pencil that's a huge huge step
1:20:27
forward. It's this if it's an aim
1:20:29
for a Samsung as. A on Ultra
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has of stylists is now an apple pencil and
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app up the apple with Craig new apple pencil.
1:20:35
This way and the ways that artist can actually
1:20:37
use it as an artist tool is a good
1:20:40
way to justify that extra expense. Apple.
1:20:44
Product and blatantly I'm I'm here of the
1:20:46
East coast. You guys are on the west
1:20:49
coast and for and front away from that
1:20:51
I am so disappointed myself and I did
1:20:53
not come up with an east coast west
1:20:55
coast rap jokes when we were talking about
1:20:58
wraps. I am I apologize people from and
1:21:00
offer expecting that and pounding the table top
1:21:02
and fled to happen. I will try to
1:21:04
do better next time. Is your unfair? Let
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us know you're out there people. Ones that
1:21:09
stand. Out a
1:21:11
lower East side employees. Are no. Ah,
1:21:17
In I forgot we we have
1:21:19
Apple results to talk about to
1:21:21
exit. There's some as sexual Apple
1:21:23
news. One of the reasons I
1:21:26
mentioned that is because ah, the
1:21:28
Apple results for I pad were
1:21:30
particularly bad last quarter. Seventeen percent
1:21:32
drop in sales. Missing.
1:21:34
Analysts estimate maybe that's because we all
1:21:36
kind of sense to be new. I
1:21:38
pass coming or. I
1:21:40
now a medical is better. Three years.
1:21:43
As yeah exactly. I think that's and top
1:21:45
of pent up expectations. I don't think anybody
1:21:47
who's buying and I pad is necessarily buying
1:21:50
them without knowledge of was coming up in
1:21:52
the future early or they're both buying them
1:21:54
for for schools so I'm not too concerned
1:21:56
about that. Numbers were a bubble probably gets
1:21:58
of as like a more definite. We've been
1:22:00
very fun as girl comes by can
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talk about his his chart and gravel
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ram us or but good results were
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not that great across the board the
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most interesting thing was or we have
1:22:11
them are we gonna talk with i
1:22:13
pad or sweet like see this later
1:22:15
ah save it and will we ever
1:22:17
more break will do the all the
1:22:19
other apple news in the next segment
1:22:21
about that. But. I do want
1:22:23
to make sure we got everything. Yep
1:22:25
in. from the of their we talked
1:22:28
about the I pad prose is and
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eleven in the thirteen we talked about
1:22:32
the air's kind of peripherally. Ah,
1:22:34
I think a big deal with the tenth
1:22:37
generation I pad nothing is now Three Forty
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Nine. That's now the base model and that's
1:22:41
the one where the people who only one
1:22:43
hundred and twenty eight gigs of storage or
1:22:45
less and eight gigs of ram or last
1:22:47
are are going to my months in the
1:22:49
restaurants more space, more is Marva consumption and
1:22:52
again and of ice and announced recent apps
1:22:54
and only I'm a kiosk devices. That's a
1:22:56
good point singling out of the i served
1:22:58
as you are going to increase or is
1:23:00
an adversary after a while when I was
1:23:02
sitting in a Muslim be jealous. And the
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size and then a lady was in the
1:23:07
dispelled very nimble so eyes as to the
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is there a device and I kind of
1:23:11
was strangely enough thing in am I gonna
1:23:14
get a mini the an hour wait and
1:23:16
see what happens if it would have been
1:23:18
the last time the mini too badly wait
1:23:20
and see that have been latency yeah germond
1:23:23
same the new many will be some substantially
1:23:25
improved so it might be worth when he
1:23:27
says at him alone and on. On.
1:23:29
Top of thing. Also probably been to space
1:23:31
these posts by start to Best Buy and
1:23:34
others have dropped the price of the ninth
1:23:36
generation. I pad nothing to two hundred Forty
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Nine dogs around the same amount as cheap
1:23:40
as as a fire of tablet, but that's
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getting dangerously close to. Oh sure, why not
1:23:45
buy one for your kids even though they're
1:23:47
probably go even on a bus Or drop
1:23:49
it in to Forty nine is fantastic. And.
1:23:52
that was as also you can take one in in like
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put it in a room where you use it of the
1:23:56
his brain was always carry my prone to the kids. And.
1:24:00
Little big for the kids and regarding
1:24:02
teaching is often either watching something or
1:24:04
recipe or whatever at that level that
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some fry appliance price. I did this
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by one free kitten and leave it
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there and mountains properly Now Protected travelers
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Jimmy think about we had their when
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we stabilize your for the a Formula
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1:24:18
in the room and I was terrible.
1:24:22
Aunts and it was terrible. I was
1:24:24
terrible. You know it's like don't put
1:24:26
you know you had a open the
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I pad. It's open the windows. Image
1:24:30
that just don't know as as the whole
1:24:32
everything was there you know I was all
1:24:34
there and that was good for them. couldn't
1:24:37
control any of manual for is known as
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annoying yet actually pay and ninety nine cents
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seat open window since it's not Id I
1:24:44
just I don't you know and the other
1:24:46
thing is it's it's I pad is a
1:24:48
really designed to be in it bedchamber at
1:24:50
night. Doesn't unlike the phone which
1:24:53
has that my sleep mode. The I pad just
1:24:55
said cern. So I
1:24:57
when I put it under some
1:24:59
and forgot about new versions of
1:25:01
other do with a pillow I
1:25:03
did. I smothered it the up
1:25:05
new versions of Final Cut Pro
1:25:07
and Logic Pro designs. it looks
1:25:09
like for these I pads. One
1:25:13
of the new features and final cut pro
1:25:15
to for I pad includes live multi cam
1:25:17
editing. Now it's just he didn't we have
1:25:19
lived multi cam as in the big boy
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version. On. The desktop. When.
1:25:24
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you know his final cut I guess All
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multi camera has been demoted him a
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thought that for us and sports and da
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so this is new to the I
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pad smoker. But what
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school is you can use I phones Of the
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four different I phones record different angles of a
1:25:43
scene at the same time. And. In
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the footage stream to the I pad running filed
1:25:47
cat. That's kind of cool. The. I
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dag fun as a decent camera. Ah,
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with for I phones. In
1:25:57
fact after the events it was
1:25:59
made clear after that not only
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emerging I saw that in yeah. brilliant. Writer
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as that which is also have been a
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good desktop release. It my that he had
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the Apple Store yet or the of the.
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Store. Apps are english but it's coming
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oh I'm. Multi cam
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feature enabled via new Final Cut
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Camera app standalone which supports White
1:26:51
Balance a manual focus controls, auto
1:26:53
metering, iso and shutter speed adjustments.
1:26:56
Final: Cut Camera is on the app store free.
1:26:59
These. Will both be coming. Ah that.
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The update to the Mack The
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update to Final Cut Pro for
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I Pad to and again that
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app called Senator From for I
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pad not an app for I
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a specific date which says that
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way which will talk about the
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moment but that one's coming on
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we should. I wish I knew more about
1:27:30
how people how prose would take advantage a
1:27:32
multi cam like are they going to see
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article or the pleased to have multi cam
1:27:36
on the I pad but are disappointed that
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while I can only used I phones to
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do so why don't you gives bunch open
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up the O S little bit select and
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basically use any complaint camera with it's I
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don't I don't know that isn't humor for
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them. You can definitely use any complaint camera
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to a little bit of cheating. Because
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you're just going to end the I had to the
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I phone and in this things he the I phone
1:27:57
so in theory should be able to do that. Okay,
1:28:00
so sorry you're not stuck using I Phones
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for multi cam. A yeah I am.
1:28:04
I am. I mean is is in the
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eyes in the Iso should work played on
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easiest to test which you can control. right?
1:28:13
So they know exactly what an I phone
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is. the the Delta of all the things
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that would it becomes a Black Magic or
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Sony or again In or Susie or Panasonic
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now is out of their hands and not
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a gotta didn't another be books when they
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they start year they can have it works
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and enough to carry work to give like
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guy who diesel which is I in the
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nick and so the work at inside the
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it's a good jumping off points mostly for
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the control mechanism. So. Date. So that
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had multi cam. And. Final capitals after
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the fact right? you should I says and
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then you put all in there and then
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you could see could switch as years on
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the new thing is it's lives which means
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in effect it's like a try caster or.
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to a right. I'm well. nothing's like damn
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dog or I have Josie. Yes, I know
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I can't wait to test it out.
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the zebra megson soon as I bank
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1:29:30
to instead of selling back their eyes,
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nose on treating the men's they end
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up keep that images. Now they've got
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suddenly a multi cam set up. On
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as live I have never treated my phones
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in and so the third year cycle now
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for the simple reason that they may great
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a pretty decent jammers. I've always kept the
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last two models because the cameras are pretty
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so. Of. Cake and
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could see to you can you now do in
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the new Sialkot for. Mack.
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just in the I pad the slice multi
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guys go to work with both money a
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big out it was so yeah and again
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we've always had money can't buy a again
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my feelings of city for this live more.
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your way running a switch or so now
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you let the yeah I phone run for
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a long time as a camera? Guess you
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can as I do that with he came.
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did. The. Entire show for it.
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wheezing each am and the I so
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okay so that's good. That's.
1:30:36
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camera. Apple's using Honey
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this as well. I must consider it's it's
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mean we automatically supporting their bid know as
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can support I saw a in theory is
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my own camus we have used I've hands
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is adding this to directly to the editor
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which is which brings some would bring some
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cool things like when it comes to I'm
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adjusting your picture or I'm having some in
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own sort of custom cameras Are cameras in
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weird places like this A lot of the
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the be of the do this on and
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the fact that it even says a
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external project to support because imagine in
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a I entered service or wedding or
1:31:29
something and these are people running around
1:31:31
with the phone given you different live
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angle in a coal everybody not been
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able to see eg. just look at
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the present. they're all as going to
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be cool. All the bridesmaids, a camera
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operators. And I've it's
1:31:44
if i had is like during my said
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our a guy like a couple of my
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boys down around with the ipo while i'm
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in a. Booth and I'm doing my thing
1:31:53
and I got one person in the say
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that Dazzler looking back at me and and
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to be the ones I like and sides
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wants me switch to day was the your
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Dominican Minister. So scary.
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today's and they match pretty well. So if
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instruments so you could take his.
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that's very into our lives here.
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1:32:58
to see what I was doing doing
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with a malady. I'm like more direct
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access to a processor as opposed to
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just software. I feel like they can
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do stuff with the yard. The media
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from one thing to another. Take the vocals
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from one song and it's put it another
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song and things like that be very interesting
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is at that's that's to me The most
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exciting thing when I see the new hardware
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is what couldn't kind of new creativity it
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might only I'll give you a that most
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people would into your bags can save your
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be kids. So I was doing is some
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filming outside and they were playing music in
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the background In was the ones as an
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opportunity to get this particular interview and then
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other get home I'm listening to and I'm
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like. I can put this on you. Tube
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my brain said hey dummy.is that the Dj
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vocals and so what is it? Do
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ghosts of They are both free
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upgrades to the existing app. Apple
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consistently makes Logic of Final Tether
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eternal upgrades. Ah,
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miss that part. That's for I Pad
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rushing over to see it. To
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any case, anything else. What else
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since when did might get a
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new I pad. Pro lacks millimeter
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camera. Okay fine. Yeah,
1:35:25
I'm okay with a ditching and ah,
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a camera. So saying that's because wields
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right camera needed to stick out a
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little further and so ditching that inside
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a second later my number clubs and didn't
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could you don't use a camera all the
1:35:49
time exactly Or a while I did get
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something that can magnitude earthquake water and speak
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call this a nano nano clean building us.
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Let's take a break. Come back there is
1:36:01
other apple news but I think can
1:36:03
I can I. Put. A
1:36:05
lid on it Or a week. We got
1:36:07
everything Emmy winning with on Sports Figures in
1:36:10
two hours for forty eight minutes well as
1:36:12
as well. Well there's Real does this kind
1:36:14
of the explain and annotated. I'm
1:36:16
and of course event is online
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merchants. Are
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they was well produced. I published Back
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here he says up I am I think
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that that something missing. it's a little too
1:36:31
promotional a slow to can't. Just
1:36:35
my two to be fair. to be fair,
1:36:37
these events are always like marketing promotion but
1:36:39
it does feel more like lift like hey
1:36:41
we we is our day and which we
1:36:43
will be informing everybody including analysts and the
1:36:46
press about stuff and stealing a lot of
1:36:48
questions and the lows of speculation about what
1:36:50
we're doing. Why we're doing now feels more
1:36:52
like I mean I don't I don't mean
1:36:54
to be dismissive a calling it an infomercial,
1:36:56
but that's the first time I thought that
1:36:59
yeah I am. I had the same route
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if you had one pan expected what you
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this grill top side. all for
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just twenty nine dollars. I'm wizard
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scientists who helped make it happen.
1:37:12
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has been I'm kind of sorry.
1:37:16
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1:37:19
that the lies at the
1:37:21
Demos and. Even just the
1:37:23
kind of the human to marry of it. Does.
1:37:26
The out I feel so it's less personal,
1:37:28
doesn't feel. As a personal
1:37:30
I mean I'll ever get to goes anymore
1:37:32
so I'll get to go to the hands
1:37:35
on lab or anything afterwards. Butts and I
1:37:37
liked that. I like the performance aspect. mm
1:37:39
I know it's nobody can do a like
1:37:41
Steve Jobs victim does. It does a great
1:37:43
job and I think we him relating to
1:37:46
the audience sort of the proms Apple has
1:37:48
is that they are so hermetic. And.
1:37:51
Him going on public is not a bad thing.
1:37:55
Yeah we'll when the When audio gives
1:37:57
feedback to that acts of sales rate.
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If all. The smarter take people in a
1:38:01
room with you know who's sitting there and
1:38:03
they are in a this role I have
1:38:05
a reaction design and the now like it's
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the thing is five point one millimeter I'd
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pay in the crowd goes rouse yeah he
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know when they have the as and here's
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the team the worked on his thank you
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for years in a losing your family's in
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they're much better. And they're controlling lovable.
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on I pad pro as opposed to
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sign language. I arrived phone and at
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it's as ours is feels more since
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imminent threat. I mean those transitions like
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that's not real bro Right at the
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sat around and waited for the appears
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stories of the week I thought.
1:40:35
Was. The amount of money that
1:40:37
Apple gives Google every year to
1:40:39
be that as the default search
1:40:41
engine. Ah disclaimer in
1:40:43
the D O J versus Google
1:40:46
trial which is include is. It.
1:40:50
Was twenty billion dollars in twenty
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twenty two. Huge amount
1:40:54
of money, That's.
1:40:57
A revenue share so it in went away.
1:40:59
It also shows you how valuable that that
1:41:01
real estate is. Yeah.
1:41:05
So the amount of money that
1:41:07
Google gives our on I sampled
1:41:10
use Google. I apologize. No no
1:41:12
wrong direction that comes into Apple
1:41:14
Think that's a big part of
1:41:16
their giants surfaces of revenue. Yes,
1:41:20
yes, don't have it and it's nicer
1:41:22
to get. A real number
1:41:24
as he said. you know we
1:41:27
have known that this is a
1:41:29
deal that takes place but the
1:41:31
have that's actually spelled out in
1:41:33
such clear terms and adding the
1:41:35
something Leo the you said during
1:41:37
ask the tech guys what is
1:41:40
it The Google is afraid of
1:41:42
losing by not having ah that
1:41:44
payments in place and giving people
1:41:46
the. Option. To choose
1:41:48
the search engine. He
1:41:52
up the the both a mean all of these are.
1:41:55
As we we use that was with that
1:41:57
was a twenty twenty two numbers for. The
1:42:00
amount of money to Apple spatula paid
1:42:02
to to Google from that we can
1:42:04
also from make a mess it up
1:42:06
with suffer to his or it has
1:42:08
always already said about percentage of of
1:42:10
revenues of they're paying back to to
1:42:12
the Apple to indicate that it's worth
1:42:14
about sixty less than sixty billion dollars
1:42:16
a year and when you compare that
1:42:18
to how much money that Google makes
1:42:20
on their services. Come, but it
1:42:23
is in totals that is a double
1:42:25
digit percentage. So it's not just Apple.
1:42:27
This also google that as tying so
1:42:29
much of it's of it's fortunes and
1:42:32
services to this one open checkbook and
1:42:34
it's frontman justice decisive. Once I checked
1:42:36
on, that's a big deal for both
1:42:38
companies. It
1:42:41
was in fact one of the
1:42:43
things that powered as a successful.
1:42:46
Services. Quarter for apple. Apple
1:42:48
did not have the best. Quarter,
1:42:51
but this is always there down forty,
1:42:53
this is the quarter after the I
1:42:55
phone know I phone comes out so
1:42:57
as not surprising. Nevertheless,
1:43:00
Not agree quarter except for.
1:43:03
Services. Which did quite
1:43:05
well, A. Record number according
1:43:07
to a Tim Cook in the
1:43:09
analysts said. I. See here are
1:43:11
a hero Jason Cells. Six.
1:43:14
Colors exit is only one who's for
1:43:16
revenue and you could see a spiky
1:43:18
revenue is it's always that fourth Quarter
1:43:20
Instead the think the big for the
1:43:23
new I phone corner. I wonder though
1:43:25
if these new I puzzled will will
1:43:27
move that needle? I phone fifty one
1:43:30
percent of overall revenue but look at
1:43:32
services coming on strong twenty six percent
1:43:34
now. We. Don't know
1:43:36
exactly what chunk of that is google but
1:43:39
is pretty hefty chunk. Yeah
1:43:41
again will be it would be a double
1:43:43
digit percentage elsa of services and again at
1:43:45
that numbers two years old so could could
1:43:47
go up could go down last have remained
1:43:50
flat wearable. Xyz down like tend to let
1:43:52
the percent which was kind of surprising to
1:43:54
me. I think max or flat out that
1:43:56
eight addict a v their growth rate was
1:43:58
down to like one percent Your am I
1:44:01
here and here I am talking so disperse
1:44:03
business journal supposed to technology tells pipes I
1:44:05
I I I have a lot of seen
1:44:07
I finance nerds who explained he thinks to
1:44:09
mates and so the of sleep so they
1:44:12
beat expectations. And old okay
1:44:14
manner and stock mind up about
1:44:16
six to seven points but also
1:44:18
because the he's just been issued
1:44:20
it's their part to buy back
1:44:22
in history like soaps. Hundred billion
1:44:24
hundred and ten billion dollars in
1:44:26
stock buybacks along with an increase.
1:44:30
Of, along with an increase in a devout
1:44:32
A dividend ended up in and around four
1:44:34
percent for percentage. So. This. Is
1:44:36
size as it looks as though they. Apple
1:44:39
and the board were very very aware
1:44:41
that this was not gonna be a
1:44:44
super great quarter. It's also that's every
1:44:46
other company like Google also announced a
1:44:48
really really have d a diverse a
1:44:50
happy buybacks just to be before in
1:44:52
their earnings results. It's this year and
1:44:54
it's it and becoming a very aware
1:44:57
that like this box as also won
1:44:59
the give these companies like most important
1:45:01
products and others competition for their products
1:45:03
and so if other investors in like
1:45:05
the in the fang companies and related
1:45:08
companies are making a really really attractive
1:45:10
investment package Apple has to sort of
1:45:12
match. that's to keep on the money
1:45:14
on the table. The
1:45:16
Am. As we had mention
1:45:19
the revenue for. I. Pads
1:45:21
year over year was seventeen percent down.
1:45:23
It was of yeah really a bad
1:45:25
as the worst I pad revenue says
1:45:28
twenty twenty. So
1:45:30
not a great quarter for I Pepper.
1:45:32
Maybe they'll turn around now as can
1:45:34
be. Very interesting as is the I
1:45:36
phone revenue down as well. Year over
1:45:39
year revenue changed and ten percent for
1:45:41
I found this is why China so
1:45:43
important Tim Cook. These days that's where
1:45:45
the growth is happening and look at
1:45:47
the services. revenue keeps on growing. And.
1:45:50
Growing as. He.
1:45:52
Was but he was the victim was pleased with
1:45:55
pleased and say at the bottom is make comments
1:45:57
and I'm Qnx that well we the I phone
1:45:59
still has some. In, I'd still wonders of
1:46:01
the six hottest sewing phones in urban
1:46:03
areas in China. It takes for the
1:46:05
six tops wants, which sounds like a
1:46:08
lot of qualifications, but they're very, very
1:46:10
aware that all the analysts are looking
1:46:12
at the same numbers as they are.
1:46:16
So. The kind of there is it as I
1:46:18
was I always buy really dumb. Looking forward to
1:46:20
seeing like what kind of cut what kind of
1:46:22
mentions of a I are going to happen here
1:46:24
because this is a good place for them to
1:46:26
at least again increase confidence in the future. The
1:46:28
company the wasn't as much as I thought they
1:46:30
would be, although maybe I was foolish to think
1:46:32
that are bad. I was expecting anything substantive but
1:46:34
that he is Tim Cook for explicitly pirated off
1:46:36
saying well we'll have a lot more if we
1:46:38
will be really cyber or the can do in
1:46:41
a I've We will have more to say about
1:46:43
Sat next month or soon or whatever so that
1:46:45
in one talk about. It's they did get
1:46:47
one direct questions at the end from
1:46:49
one enlist who's asking swelled given that
1:46:51
you're gonna have been investing so much
1:46:53
money in a i like how much
1:46:55
as a farmhouse like an insect like
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get your your your your future by
1:46:59
turning your for your future with your
1:47:01
future members and the answer came back.
1:47:04
That their state they feel as though they're investing
1:47:06
five knots. They did mention that and get things
1:47:09
like of a quote for the means that they're
1:47:11
just during the fact last five years were spent
1:47:13
more than one hundred billion dollars in research and
1:47:15
development I think is the first time we've gotten
1:47:17
like actual number on how much is spent specifically
1:47:20
on our India. My to that when the vision
1:47:22
for up as much question how much honors employment
1:47:24
it on the apple pie or you know now
1:47:26
and and as dead. By.
1:47:29
the go do it they get to do it's and
1:47:31
it was kind of a taste smell of takes up.
1:47:34
An. Interesting exchange between the An
1:47:36
endless from Wells Fargo and Tim
1:47:38
Cook as the analyst asked him
1:47:40
to explain. Apple's. Results
1:47:42
would said are that I phone sales are
1:47:45
up in China with the. Independent
1:47:47
Research Groups has said that Apple sales of
1:47:49
the I phone were falling apart and China.
1:47:52
Ah, And Sector as you point out,
1:47:54
Apple said that was doing well in urban China.
1:47:56
Cook said I can address the data points I
1:47:58
can only dress when our. Results are and
1:48:00
you know we did accelerate last quarter and
1:48:03
I phone grew in mainland China so that's
1:48:05
of the results are I can't bridge to
1:48:07
numbers we didn't come up with to which
1:48:09
days and said that's about as Savage Assayed
1:48:11
throwing his you'll get on a half of
1:48:13
that. I don't know
1:48:15
why they're on Von about the says it's not
1:48:18
as though Apple just paid a half a billion
1:48:20
dollars in penalties to have to settle a shareholder
1:48:22
lawsuit on exactly this issue. about the miss guiding
1:48:24
the market on that affects the Chinese market on
1:48:26
her on I phone sales are ways that actually
1:48:28
did happen to have him. Oh okay, so
1:48:30
you think that I will? I be misremembering
1:48:33
a little been piling. I don't know. It's.
1:48:36
Yeah, I for me it's It's definitely
1:48:38
going to be a topic of conversation
1:48:40
of with. I would think that's if
1:48:42
he said that he knew that if
1:48:44
that was legally defensible thing to say.
1:48:46
So. But rise of yeah
1:48:48
exactly wouldn't say it was done in
1:48:50
a could be said to and held
1:48:52
to answer but yeah this was this
1:48:54
he was feeling that I think facing
1:48:56
was right and against us. Read the
1:48:58
transcripts edited. it does come across differently
1:49:00
than since and stems d tell me
1:49:03
about how the Vision Pro is helping
1:49:05
to save lives. With Enterprise been and
1:49:07
the operating theatre were very glad to
1:49:09
talk about that. Apple
1:49:12
is mulling a potential partnership with Reveal Now
1:49:15
I don't know what that means? Is it
1:49:17
mean. That that. Fancy new car
1:49:19
play display will be part of
1:49:21
the electric pickup trucks. Ah,
1:49:24
Not sure been digitized says Apple's electric vehicle
1:49:26
ambitions may not be over. Apple.
1:49:29
As a courtier, the story assessing the possibility
1:49:31
of teaming up. With. A
1:49:33
certain U S E V start up and Rizzi
1:49:35
in is very likely. As I
1:49:37
don't have that sister rumors of the watch
1:49:39
incident supply chain rumor so could they could
1:49:42
be. It could easily be like these companies
1:49:44
they're trying to make themselves look lot more
1:49:46
valuable to investors and hey look for in
1:49:48
a verb were taught some of it with
1:49:51
Apple's supposed to work habits of a big
1:49:53
deals are those outside out an office as
1:49:55
a choose to this whatsoever but it does
1:49:57
sound familiar to like what went on. The
1:50:00
for the release the I phone where it's
1:50:02
a Apple was not gonna get the concessions
1:50:04
that they wanted to get from the number
1:50:06
one bird dogging the in the market work
1:50:08
and get that they try to get some
1:50:10
fries they didn't Oliver eighteen T who had
1:50:12
some work to do to get new sign
1:50:14
ups were definitely willing to do when Apple
1:50:16
one of them to do to make the
1:50:18
product that Apple wanted made so. That
1:50:20
would be interesting to say if for freebie
1:50:22
and wanted to do a partnership with Apple
1:50:25
Tooth. Elevated start as he the it's it's
1:50:27
it's not to not just as actual stuff
1:50:29
but it's reputation and it's desirability eats Especially
1:50:31
now that there's a certain rust stain on
1:50:33
the Tesla logo that a lot of people
1:50:35
don't want to be involved. And I actually
1:50:38
know to Tesla owners that did not spend
1:50:40
about a new car they explicitly did not
1:50:42
buy a Tesla as they do not want
1:50:44
to be seen as someone driving tesla of
1:50:46
in one of supports Elon Musk even indirectly
1:50:48
through same bumper stickers around Ten. That. Says
1:50:50
I bought this on Tesla I bought
1:50:53
this before your and my real I
1:50:55
was Crazy Things like this to me
1:50:57
and rumors and Ed as John Gruber
1:50:59
daring Fireball does give a. Pretty.
1:51:01
Big props to marker mins last minute.
1:51:04
And. For Scoop he says it might be
1:51:06
the greatest rumor scoop in recent memory. He
1:51:09
was right. He was right.
1:51:11
There was an M for I pad. A.
1:51:13
See what other what other stories of
1:51:15
we got to cover here. Ah,
1:51:18
I'm did. With. I'm gonna
1:51:20
wait until Jason's back. Next.
1:51:22
Week Talk about this. He did a great
1:51:24
article. actually was ten more in some if
1:51:27
we don't have to weights the Enron did
1:51:29
you see the and I can't play it
1:51:31
because Apple Pie U S. These.
1:51:33
As recently city buses and mining
1:51:35
yeah, Jason's used to. Ah,
1:51:38
It's pretty cool. The idea is a you
1:51:40
can narrow it down and can be be
1:51:42
be be ribs home in on your friends
1:51:44
and it was a great. Add.
1:51:46
At a very good and a bunch of
1:51:48
baba sets at a at a cost. Playing
1:51:51
at a. Kamikaze. And of
1:51:53
course it's hard to find. Your.
1:51:55
Bob affects group like that's it was
1:51:58
very funny I thought as great. But
1:52:00
my dad more points out is there are a
1:52:02
lot of. Star. Wars
1:52:04
references in the As. The.
1:52:07
For the Slayers cell numbers
1:52:09
seen twice, the Eleven Thirty
1:52:11
Years is seen as a
1:52:13
pair of apartment building numbers.
1:52:15
The Death Star Trash compact
1:52:17
number is a phone number
1:52:19
on an ad in the
1:52:21
bus number. Is
1:52:23
thirty seven? Twenty are the odds
1:52:25
of successfully navigating. And. Esterhazy
1:52:28
killed and never got me.
1:52:30
I know, I I love.
1:52:32
So for folks who don't
1:52:34
have as as precision finding
1:52:36
it's basically like air tag
1:52:38
line. It is as as
1:52:40
Leo pointed out with the
1:52:42
people that you know so
1:52:44
it's you and the people
1:52:46
it's you know as find
1:52:48
mice are using an I
1:52:50
phone sistine or his team
1:52:52
pro Then you are able
1:52:54
to use precision finding. Essentially
1:52:56
it lets you. Narrow in we
1:52:58
using ultra wideband to the person that is
1:53:00
around you and very handy when you are
1:53:02
in a location that as a lot of
1:53:05
people in it or a lot of things
1:53:07
in the way it's and he kept quite
1:53:09
find you're looking for and of course yes
1:53:11
this was the perfect time to show it
1:53:13
because it got a bunch of people in
1:53:15
both that masks which group is your group
1:53:17
and will to narrow and on your group
1:53:20
was was crazy but we don't allow and
1:53:22
as in a be. Cause. Where
1:53:24
we there's more was split up. We had
1:53:26
a group that was sharing location for
1:53:28
each day and it was easy to
1:53:30
find because and some cases they'll be like
1:53:33
a giveaway going on and one at
1:53:35
a booths rates. And. So that booth
1:53:37
is is swarmed with bodies and I'm trying to
1:53:39
find you know one people that was with and.
1:53:42
I had didn't realize that it was
1:53:44
on. And as he had Herzog as
1:53:46
an adult early Saada again, you're thirty
1:53:48
feet away. or you know, getting closer.
1:53:50
Getting closer you get here. The B
1:53:52
B beads and yeah, It. Was easy
1:53:54
to spot. So yeah it does work a works
1:53:57
really well and have played by getting beat. We're
1:53:59
is emitted thousand. The signal flying around.
1:54:01
Very helpful. Really? Worked even
1:54:04
there. That's pretty cool. Yes, it's hulu as pretty
1:54:06
cool. Ah,
1:54:09
Care six cents. Let's see. Ah,
1:54:12
Is it? And it. And it is. I think that's
1:54:15
every say. Oh, there is one story we didn't mentioned
1:54:17
in the Wall Street Journal. Apparently. Apple
1:54:19
was considering building a I Tips for
1:54:21
Data Centers wiki as agree peripherally match
1:54:23
the beat at the beginning of his
1:54:25
show. Project Ac
1:54:27
Unity sees. Yeah.
1:54:30
Bloomberg. Mark Berman had a lot
1:54:32
to say about this for basically
1:54:34
kind of saying not really knob
1:54:36
run It was interesting. Nah brah.
1:54:39
Well that's interesting that Air and
1:54:41
Tilly and the young here. Are.
1:54:43
The author's in the Wall Street
1:54:45
Journal a little battle amongst the
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for ten bucks for these ambience or sounds for
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me as you might be aroused my different but
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you do get six that are actually very very
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me a more productive to set a sleep timer,
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set a task or focus timers have a stuff
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speakers A does for your place to don't have
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to just use special audio on your on your
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this give it another app a try. I like
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this one because. The level of
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polish is pretty pretty on it. Ah this
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minds in the Uk and oh sunny Sam
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sleep. Ah it's see what's
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the uptight. App Thank.
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are pretty weird. I will say this is the one
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that the one that I use on my Android phone has
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so many it's one of them includes like. Library
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ambient noise of people making the boys around you
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feel lonely and that's what's good for you. They're
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not going to judge the give you what though,
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give you what will help since when we and
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we sat we often put to sleep sounds on
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our i'm. A hum pod. The
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big home pods. Which. Are gonna not
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lessen the right of our bed in
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there that in there at the house
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and it's very relaxing and seven is
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also as we travel so and it's
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would do spatial to which is very
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cool. I'm gonna try to emphasise good
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gonna be releasing my own physical product
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pretty soon. Oh like ours. are you
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in about maybe three weeks to months
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when I give a musical? them will
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to. I mean cause I'm I'm just
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he was just on with I today's your club
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but we're running out time so I'll
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save it for a for as the
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tech guys this is that just came
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out the new Kobo Libra to color
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which is really interesting as a guided
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you know how color is on. I'm.
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me let me go back to back to
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my books and I have some comics on
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here I could show. To get
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an idea of what what kind of a
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comic would look like? It is dollar. I
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mean as comic or a scholar. Yeah, yeah.
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and I wanted as we talked about was
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just a differentiator between. You. Know one
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it's it's pencil which allows you
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notebooks. It even has a text
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recognition. Which. Is kind of cool. So.
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I I feel like this is an interesting
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products. You.
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a full review on as the tech guys. On.
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me and so yeah have some the
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