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us as we count down the worst and

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best movies of the past year

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as we're just about a

1:04

month and a half away from the Oscars, something like

1:06

that. So this will probably be

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the last combo we have about this until

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our Oscars postgame show, which comes out right

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after the Oscars. So after you

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watch the Oscars the next morning, just

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throw on the podcast and we'll talk about

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it together. But fellas, welcome

1:22

in to another Rants and Raves End

1:24

of the Year episode. Feels good,

1:27

doesn't it? Woo. Woo.

1:29

Here we are. Wow. Crazy.

1:32

Doing it again, I guess. We're just going to keep doing

1:34

this. Huh? All right. Okay.

1:37

Yeah. I told you guys you got 11 years out of me. That

1:40

is it. Well, that's a good transition to

1:42

my first question before we dive into the list here,

1:44

which is how would you summarize

1:47

the year? Do you have any big thoughts on

1:49

the year that was? Now that we've watched

1:51

everything, tallied up the list, we

1:54

brewed our coffee, we're sitting here. What's

1:57

the first thing on your mind, Brian? I thought this

1:59

is a good year. I keep tracking litter box all

2:01

year. I

2:05

got through a good chunk of movies

2:08

and I gave

2:10

out a ton of five and four

2:13

and a half star reviews on litter box.

2:15

That's usually a good mark. For

2:19

me, there was one great movie and

2:21

then several very, very good movies. Just

2:26

really how I measure this as far as was

2:28

it a good year or not. Number one, again,

2:30

was there a great movie or two great movies

2:32

or whatever? I think there was. When

2:36

I am making my list of my top

2:38

10, how many movies do I

2:40

want to squeeze into an honorable mention? I

2:43

probably had like 10. That's

2:47

good. That's a really good

2:50

year. Moreover, if there's a third way to

2:52

look at it for me, it's how

2:55

many just like truly abysmal terrible movies that

2:57

I see this year out of 140. I

3:03

saw some bad movies this year. There's

3:05

not a ton of them though that are going to be like, that's

3:08

like an all time bad. In

3:10

the history of man, this goes on the list. There's

3:13

not a ton of that. Good

3:15

year. I enjoyed it overall. It

3:17

was better in hindsight than it

3:20

felt necessarily at times through

3:22

the course of the year, I think. Yeah.

3:24

I had the exact same experience. I

3:27

actually logged all these on Letterbox. My

3:29

new solution is to ... I

3:32

got into Letterbox for about a month and

3:34

then COVID happened and I just got out

3:36

of practice, but I decided I'm going to

3:38

start writing little reviews and

3:41

also ranking things in lists and actually ... Because I do

3:43

things in a spreadsheet and I was like, well, this is

3:45

so much prettier to do this other thing, so

3:47

why don't I do that? Same

3:49

thing. I actually thought of this year as

3:51

a little disappointing until I ranked

3:56

everything and yeah, same. I had

3:58

movies I thought would have been in my top 10 that are ... are like 15

4:00

to 20, you know? Yeah,

4:03

to put it in basketball terms, Brian, for your

4:06

purposes, it's like you probably don't win a title

4:08

with this team, because you're number one, isn't that

4:10

great, but you're a really good regular

4:12

season playoff team. You're gonna win a lot of

4:14

games because of the depth that you have. You're

4:17

a great football team. There's a lot

4:19

of depth here. I think, I was

4:21

looking at this, two great movies, obviously

4:26

things can rise. There's actually one thing that jumped away

4:28

on my list on a second viewing this week. Few

4:31

things may rise to great status, but two

4:34

great, and then yeah, 20 goods, very goods

4:36

actually. But

4:39

then yeah, there's a couple movies I really did

4:41

not like this year, but that's

4:43

actually less, I dislike those

4:46

less than some of the others'

4:48

years. So yeah, on the whole, pretty

4:50

strong year. Nice. Of

4:52

2023 movies, I only saw 50 something, which

4:57

is pretty much everything we did episodes on. I

4:59

don't see things out as much as you do, but.

5:01

Totally, yeah. That makes sense.

5:04

Yeah, when I was whittling down my

5:06

list, I was surprised how

5:08

many strong ones there were,

5:10

how hard it was to make this list and narrow

5:12

it down to 10, which ones were gonna be in

5:14

the 10. I

5:17

feel the opposite, Richard. I feel like this is an NBA

5:20

team, where we're an all-star team.

5:22

My top five, I feel like, are

5:25

classic, I mean great movies that

5:27

we'll be talking about for

5:29

years to come. So it

5:32

was hard for me to even rank the top five

5:35

on how I was gonna order them. But

5:37

I feel like when I

5:39

finally hit save, I feel like I

5:42

favored heavily the

5:44

favoritism this year, maybe over some

5:46

years past, but that

5:48

might not be the case. So I'm excited

5:50

about this. But we can't start this list

5:53

without starting at the bottom with the bottom

5:55

10. So

5:58

I think we should start with. The

6:01

person who probably saw the most movies this

6:03

year, according to my letterbox, I didn't log

6:07

documentaries and some other things

6:10

that I watched. But I

6:12

felt like things that are relevant to the show, I did

6:14

log. I had a shout-out Luca

6:16

Doncic, 77 movies. So

6:20

this would be number 67 through 77 or so on the list. But

6:27

we'll go bottom ten here and I'll start

6:29

us off. I wasn't on

6:31

this episode, but I did see it and

6:34

it made it to number ten on the bottom ten. Dungeons

6:38

and Dragons. What? Wow.

6:41

Wow. Yeah, did not love

6:43

it. Wow. That's shocking, dude. Yeah, that's like

6:45

little on my list. That's right. Oh, wow.

6:48

Yeah. Yeah, I've got that one. Well

6:51

closer to the top than to the bottom. Oh,

6:53

awesome. Yeah. Starting

6:55

off hot. Starting off hot. Yeah, didn't love

6:57

it. Didn't want to be

6:59

in this universe anymore. That's the same verse, right? Not

7:01

your first. Tenth worst. Not the worst, yeah. Yeah,

7:05

there's ten more that are worse than that. Now

7:07

I wish you were on the episode. It

7:09

was right next to Aquaman. That

7:13

was the eleventh worst.

7:16

Yeah. Which I said I kind of

7:18

enjoyed on the episode. Overall,

7:21

I will say this is

7:24

still a top-heavy year. Even

7:26

the bad movies aren't like some

7:29

of the worst ones we've talked about.

7:31

So it's a borderline good movie at

7:33

number ten for me where

7:35

we're falling with this year. So go

7:38

ahead with your number ten, Brian. Number

7:40

ten for me is

7:42

Aquaman, Maloth's kingdom. Okay, there you go. Did

7:46

not like the movie at the time. I think I

7:48

like it less even now. The

7:51

more I thought about it, the more I felt like

7:53

not only was it bad, but also nothing happened. Just

7:55

nothing happened. It's a repeat of the first movie.

8:00

I did not like the

8:02

first movie, so I certainly am not gonna like

8:04

the second movie. But at least it's over now,

8:06

at least it's over. What

8:08

if you were just all in after this

8:11

one and they stop making them? This is

8:13

the one that just won everybody over. It

8:15

makes three billion dollars. They're

8:17

like, dang, that's what Richard was saying.

8:20

He hopes it's success, just the chaos. Just

8:23

the screw with them, yeah. We've been so

8:25

cool. Oh

8:28

gosh. What about you, Richard, number

8:30

10? Number 10 for me,

8:33

this one hurts, guys. A

8:35

lot of disappointment in this one. This is a

8:37

disappointed dad voice. But

8:39

honestly, I did not think this would be even close

8:42

until I started ranking the stupid

8:44

blame letter box, not me. Fast

8:47

X. Wow.

8:50

Wow. Richard, what

8:52

have we come to? I know. You

8:55

and I, bud. It's been tough. You

8:59

know, it shows though that this is

9:01

not a biased show. Yeah,

9:05

yeah. That we, I know everyone thinks

9:07

we're in the pocket of whatever, but. Of

9:09

big fast. Big

9:11

fast. Big not. We

9:14

can still independent. Big fast. Yeah.

9:18

Yeah, okay. But that one

9:20

hurt. That is, we are definitely

9:22

aging on this show if

9:25

the fast doesn't even make

9:27

it in the middle of the list. Doesn't have

9:29

to be the top or anything. I thought it'd be in the 20s

9:31

or 30s for me and

9:34

started putting them out. I was like, nope, I

9:36

like that more than that. I like that more.

9:38

And again, it's more disappointed than

9:40

angry, but we did a good job avoiding

9:43

a lot of crap this year and I have a little

9:45

kid, so I wasn't seeking out. If we didn't have to

9:47

do an episode on it, I didn't seek

9:49

stuff out. So there might be a few

9:51

things I see and maybe

9:53

my list will change a bit, but as of right

9:55

now, that's in the bottom 10. I can't argue. Not

9:57

try to defend it. You know what? It's in

9:59

my bottom 10. It wasn't very good and

10:01

that's okay. Yeah. There's been other bad

10:03

fast movies and they've rebounded so. Sure.

10:07

Well, we got more. Yes, absolutely

10:10

true. All right, my number nine

10:12

on this list. Now

10:15

we're getting to the bad stuff here, The

10:17

Machine. Oh,

10:19

yeah. Yeah, that's… It's

10:22

pretty bad. I'm going to come up later. Oh,

10:25

good. I can

10:27

tell Brian has something on that. We'll

10:29

go on to him with his number nine. Okay.

10:32

Number nine is a movie I doubt either of you guys saw.

10:35

I don't know why I saw it other than it

10:38

pops up on our Plex server on

10:40

a day where I was working from home. I was

10:42

like, oh, yeah, sure. I'll pop that on. That's fine.

10:45

And then sometimes

10:48

with bad movies, you just kind of put them on

10:50

in the background or while you're playing video games or

10:52

something. You're like, yeah, this is bad, but, you know,

10:54

whatever. I can

10:56

continue doing life. And then

10:58

sometimes you're watching a bad

11:00

movie and you're just like, I

11:02

found myself… So I guess

11:04

kudos to everybody involved because it sucked me

11:07

in, but only based on

11:09

me being like, why is this happening?

11:12

Why is this a movie that is

11:14

happening? It's called Jewels. It is the

11:16

Ben Kingsley joint where…

11:19

It's got Jane Curtin, so, you know, maybe that should have

11:21

been my first clue, but it's three old

11:23

people who have an alien. It's

11:29

like ET for old people except

11:32

terrible, just genuinely terrible. And then

11:35

they – spoiler alert – then they just

11:37

start killing cats just left and right for

11:40

the purposes of feeding

11:42

the alien, I think, or powering the

11:44

alien ship regardless. Not a

11:46

fan. Not a fan. Very bad movie. Not

11:50

an Alf fan, I take it. Alf

11:52

would be great. I'm in

11:54

the bag for Alf. Kill cats for

11:56

Alf. We get it. We understand. That's just a

11:58

good thing. Yeah, I did

12:00

not under the apex predator like you just got

12:03

a room back. I

12:08

hear they're rebooting that with Ryan Reynolds and

12:10

that's actually genius. I hope that happens. It

12:13

seems like he'd be a good elf. The crew elf

12:15

podcast. Yeah, 100%. I did see Jules. Oh,

12:20

okay. And I did not know what was going

12:22

on with Ben Kingsley in that movie. That was

12:24

odd. It was very odd. Very

12:26

tough to get through. Took a couple sittings,

12:30

pause, come back. Which is what

12:32

you want from an 80-minute movie. Yeah,

12:34

exactly. But I had to. The UFO

12:36

elements, I had to

12:39

watch that one and it was quite rough. I

12:41

agree. Richard, number nine.

12:45

Number nine for me is

12:48

a bit

12:50

of a trend on these. A lot of misses

12:52

in this type of film this year. The kind

12:55

of cynical box office grab.

12:58

And that is, number nine for me

13:00

is The Little Mermaid. It's

13:02

my number eight, so perfect

13:04

transition. Number

13:07

eight, racist. I'm woke. I

13:09

had a nine. The

13:14

more I think about that one too is

13:17

especially the scuttlebutt. I

13:19

hate it even more. So that's

13:23

my memory is the scuttlebutt. And

13:26

enough said. Agreed, Richard.

13:29

Brian, did it make your bottom of the year

13:31

list? No, I have it 76 on

13:33

the year. Up towards the B minus range. But

13:41

you know what? By ratio, if we're going to

13:43

scale, you saw more movies than us. We're still

13:45

in the same percentage of movies we saw. It's

13:47

in the same quadrant. Okay, sure.

13:50

So, big it. But

13:56

I have a scuttlebutt tattoo. I don't know if you

13:58

guys want to dig that. Get one as well. I

14:01

don't that needs to be a bet pet off payoff,

14:03

but yeah It's still

14:05

on my scuttle butt She

14:08

just needs to drop an album as

14:10

scuttle All

14:15

right, what's your number eight

14:17

Brian number eight

14:19

for me And

14:22

this is a trend I'm looking I Think

14:25

there's probably five or so of these

14:28

last these last seven or eight for me, but

14:31

that are that are streaming exclusive

14:34

movies and That's

14:36

on me for watching them right like that's that's my

14:38

fault This one

14:40

I'll go here is the mother Jennifer

14:43

Lopez on on

14:45

the old Netflix oh and it's

14:50

There's a worst one of these kind of

14:52

action movies that'll pop up. I think third

14:54

on my list here So

14:56

maybe in some ways I should give JLo

14:59

and company kudos

15:01

for for being better than than one

15:03

of the then it's then a contemporary

15:05

bad action bad plotting You

15:09

take like all the things that you get from

15:11

like something like the equalizer three and then which

15:13

is already kind of a stupid movie and then

15:15

dumb it down even further and it's just Yeah,

15:18

there's a certain point where it's like what are

15:20

we doing? What what is the value of this

15:22

movie and this type of movie and it's there's

15:24

just not really anything there that you can point

15:26

to? Yeah, I

15:29

did not see that one. I feel like there was a lot of

15:31

Netflix Exclusives that fell under

15:33

my radar this year for whatever reason I

15:36

did get to a bunch of

15:39

Netflix ones I feel like but I still feel like that

15:41

one's one. I just I don't even know if I've heard

15:43

of that movie so Props

15:45

to Netflix for cranking them out and keeping

15:48

them out of my algorithm because I would have thought that

15:50

would have been everywhere On

15:52

my main page. All right, Richard.

15:55

Let's go with your number eight make

15:57

to the trench Did

16:01

I log this one on my list? I

16:04

forgot this one on the list yeah oh

16:06

man that one would have been movie where

16:08

you know you can I'll accept one that's

16:11

fun if you're

16:13

doing the kind of ironic mega Megalodon

16:16

movie but like even if it does well you don't get to

16:18

make it out you don't that that needs to be a rule

16:20

and if you're gonna then like

16:22

maybe put the shark in the movie I

16:25

would suggest we're kicking out Dungeons and Dragons

16:27

and we're putting in Meg to the trench

16:29

on my list that's what it would

16:31

be had I put it on there I knew there

16:33

was some I some that I

16:35

missed man this thing letterbox that's

16:38

a great one man I told wish I

16:40

didn't think about that again but here we are oh

16:43

I never fails the end of the air

16:45

he's just the memories come flowing back so

16:48

to speak all right I'm

16:51

gonna go my next one was

16:54

number eight it was a little mermaid so my

16:56

number seven is

16:58

the Exorcist two

17:01

you guys see this did

17:04

not know I heard it was awful awful

17:06

it was yes that's two

17:08

great words to describe it Richard

17:11

did you I did not Wow

17:14

I challenge you to get through it

17:16

Richard knowing you I feel like I

17:19

started it I don't know you

17:21

shouldn't it shouldn't have not been associated with

17:23

the Exorcist the war the worst thing about

17:25

it yeah is that it it

17:28

taints the legacy somehow

17:30

of the original have you

17:32

seen the Exorcist yes yeah I'm

17:34

just curious yeah yeah yeah great movie

17:36

I will never want to watch yeah

17:38

yeah I was just curious yeah

17:41

that one holds up as scary

17:43

scary agree still big agree yeah

17:45

great yeah oh it's great all-time

17:48

great and you

17:50

can do a sequel to that well I

17:52

feel like is this wasn't

17:54

it to the shining they can do it to that

17:56

right I feel like there's

18:00

At least some type of source material there to

18:02

work with but this was not it. I

18:06

do not believe David Gordon Green is a top

18:09

tier how does this guy keep getting work

18:11

guy? He

18:14

just had something cancelled recently and I was

18:16

like oh good could we just not give

18:18

him any more movies? What

18:21

does he do? What does he do well at

18:23

this point? I don't know. I don't understand. It doesn't

18:25

work for me. I guess Danny McBride

18:28

might still have some cash aid to give him

18:30

jobs or something. I don't know what's going on

18:32

there. True. That's a

18:34

good point. Alright so number seven for you, Brian. Number

18:37

seven for me is a Robert

18:39

Rodriguez joint. So

18:42

you know it's good and it

18:45

also involves one

18:47

of these. I think we've all

18:49

gotten to a place where we really like Ben Affleck for

18:51

the most part but he's still

18:53

capable of doing like an early

18:56

2000s Ben Affleck role for sure.

18:59

You know hey get paid that's great. It's

19:01

hypnotic which here's

19:06

what I hated about hypnotic. Like

19:09

this kind of movie whatever it exists it's fine.

19:12

The thing that really takes it over the top for me that takes

19:14

it from like this is a C movie

19:16

that I did not like and didn't

19:18

really find any value into down

19:21

into like no actually it's actually very

19:23

bad is it is a movie that

19:25

is so sure that it's twist is

19:27

going to blow your mind and then

19:29

it is the most generic basic if

19:32

you've ever seen like I

19:34

don't know like an NCIS episode you

19:37

can see this twist coming from so

19:39

far away. Who hasn't? It's

19:41

so so bad. It reminded me a ton

19:43

of this

19:45

movie definitely made my list whatever

19:47

year that was but the Matthew

19:49

McConaughey and Hathaway joint serenity

19:53

that turned out spoiler alert for that movie turned

19:55

out to be a video game that his kid

19:57

designed the whole time like they're just characters in

19:59

a video game. video game, it's the

20:01

same kind of twist. It's

20:03

very, very stupid and I did not like it at

20:05

all. And it's Robert Rodriguez, so that's a tough one-two

20:08

punch for me, but get paid, Ben,

20:10

get paid. Hey, he's just

20:13

trying to fund his next spike hits. That's

20:15

really, and vice versa. Yeah, cool.

20:21

I like that. Well, I

20:23

did not catch that one. It was on the watch

20:25

list and it was one of the ones

20:28

that I, like I'm running out of time. It's

20:30

not gonna make it and it ever

20:32

did. So I'm glad I skipped it. Richard,

20:35

seven? No shocker here. This one

20:37

was like a lock from two years ago. We

20:40

knew this would be in my art, some bottom tens.

20:43

That would be Transformers Rise of the

20:45

Beast. It'll

20:48

come up later on mine, yeah, for sure.

20:51

I rewatched your rant about aspect ratios

20:53

and things on it, Kent. So one of your best pieces

20:55

of work. Thank you. That's

20:58

your version. My, what my

21:01

PETA, or not PETA, what my

21:04

Sarah McLaughlin Shaggy Angel

21:06

video is, yours

21:08

is, that's what you'll be remembered for.

21:11

And hopefully they'll play. When

21:13

they do the Mad About Movies Film Festival,

21:15

hopefully those play back to back. Yeah, he's

21:17

just real passionate about aspect ratios and that's

21:19

all we got. So he was a

21:22

great guy and this was an awful day. Yeah,

21:25

I really thought your parents would have more to say but that

21:28

was their speech. They'd say the same thing, yeah. That's

21:30

all we knew about him. That's

21:33

good. Yeah, you know what, looking

21:35

back, that's kind of the moment

21:38

this series went south for

21:40

good. Was that movie? What

21:43

was it? Last night?

21:46

Yeah. I mean, it was going

21:48

south a little before that. Oh yeah, but I

21:50

mean, you can always pull the train back on

21:52

the tracks. It felt like they did with, what's

21:55

it called, Bumblebee? I was gonna say

21:57

Beekeeper, but that's a new movie. Bubblebee?

22:00

Ah yeah, and then they completely

22:03

negate that with Rise

22:05

of the Beasts, which I think is my

22:07

number one, two, three, four worst movie

22:10

of the year. Fourth worst. So

22:13

spoiler alert for that. Yeah,

22:16

not great. Totally agree. I

22:18

guess going number six for me is

22:21

this concept can work. I'm not

22:24

against it in general. Good

22:27

idea to do this movie but just

22:29

didn't understand the

22:31

audience. Haunted

22:33

Mansion. Not

22:37

poorly made by any means. Anything

22:41

like that just was

22:43

– this is really the one we got in July.

22:45

We got this Haunted Mansion movie.

22:49

Yeah, it's a very, very confusing thing. Like

22:51

I said before, kids

22:54

want to see Mr. Beast. Put

22:57

Mr. Beast and that bad boy, give him

22:59

Dude Perfect, and it would have made a billion

23:01

dollars. They

23:03

gave him the Kent Garrison – Who said

23:06

Ghost or Dude Perfect? The Kent Garrison casting

23:08

of Rosario Dawson and Le Keith Stanfield, which

23:10

you know, great but didn't

23:12

make for a great Haunted Mansion movie. I had

23:14

a dollar for every time Cooper brought up Le

23:16

Keith Stanfield. You know, I did it. I

23:19

mean they cannot stop talking. He's great. You're

23:21

right about Le Keith. Dad, can you take

23:23

me through the Book of Clearance again? No,

23:25

I can't. We can't do that right now.

23:28

Gotta go to school today, dude. That's

23:30

mind-blowing. But yeah, that had to make

23:32

the worst of the year just for

23:36

sheer just lack of awareness and

23:39

the fact that that just went all the way it

23:42

did up until they released it. And that's

23:44

incredible. Haunted Mansion. What's

23:47

your number six? Brian? Number

23:49

six. Not sure if this movie actually

23:51

was ever released in theaters or if

23:53

it was just streamer. I

23:55

don't know how you have – let

23:58

me rephrase that. willing

24:00

to give a dumb action

24:02

comedy starring John

24:05

Cena and Alison Brie like a

24:07

pass on just being fine. You

24:10

got to work pretty hard to make it to where it's

24:12

something where I'm like, nope, that's one of the worst movies

24:14

I saw this year. So

24:17

congratulations to Freelance. They

24:19

were successful in that endeavor of

24:21

making just a really miserable movie

24:23

for no reason. It

24:26

shouldn't be this hard to make

24:29

Alison Brie and John Cena entertaining

24:31

enough for me just to be like, oh, that was

24:33

fine. I couldn't pull that off. So

24:35

Freelance, which also is

24:37

the movie that led Kent to be like, really,

24:39

dude? When I sent him requests for like, hey,

24:41

I need to find these movies because I'm trying

24:44

to see these. Yeah, he called me.

24:46

We have a whole... For real, dude? Should

24:48

we have an intermission? Interfinish? We

24:50

need that. Yeah. Like, I got

24:53

it. He's like, hey, Kent. He called me. You

24:56

can get it for me. I need

24:58

that Freelance. I'm like, okay, bro, chill.

25:01

I'll get it. I'll get

25:03

it. Okay. It's 4 a.m. I

25:07

agree. Yeah, that's on my list, too. Second

25:09

worst of the year for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it

25:12

definitely could have been higher than six, for sure. It's

25:14

a really bad comedy. And

25:16

that sucks because you like the people involved.

25:18

You want to see comedies get made and

25:20

be funny. I

25:22

think it was a director, like a

25:24

foreign director situation and didn't understand

25:27

comedic timing type of

25:29

thing. Because

25:31

I don't know if the script was bad

25:33

because that's why it got made in the

25:35

first place probably is because it was a

25:37

funny script. So yeah, it's just... There

25:41

was one scene that really summarized it

25:43

for me. You know the episode of The Office where

25:47

Sabre takes over Dunder Mifflin

25:49

and they show him the welcome tape from

25:53

Sabre that's like, hi, welcome

25:56

to Sabre. I'm Christian Slater.

25:58

Yeah, and everyone's just really... impress with

26:00

Cliff Christian Slater being like in their

26:02

mug a video that Christian Slater pops

26:04

up at this movie and that was

26:06

the is is the movie equivalent of

26:08

that. Yes,

26:11

yes if you're spot on. It was

26:13

such an odd like they were so

26:15

happy that I'm Christian Slater. Yeah

26:17

it was and he's only and it just so

26:19

they the I like oh they are Christian Slater

26:22

for for the deaths As like no. No

26:26

reason for it be am at

26:28

all sir. the very not sprint

26:30

commercial scenario Their Allison Brie at

26:32

a couple movie The Sewers Slate.

26:34

Did. To see know this is good

26:36

like still have to do this via way

26:39

when we I mean. I.

26:41

Guess here, money get paid You know

26:43

we're we're we're pro get paid and

26:45

also. I. Love her

26:47

but see Slayers is rather

26:49

movies revenues. What? You

26:51

got next source Richard. Ah, we're

26:53

going to go on a little friend here for

26:55

the next few. I'm gonna go Blue Beetle! Okay,

27:00

Have a slightly out of the bottom ten for

27:02

me here. No idea why

27:04

does exist. Ah,

27:06

there are some cool like

27:08

honestly, execution wise. They.

27:10

Pulled off a few things that were in jersey

27:12

with it, but. The. Stuff that was

27:15

flat was very awkward and then just overall

27:17

why I have I seen these together bit

27:19

this doesn't he do this was like it

27:22

the. Stairway think about it was

27:24

amiss from the beginning. it's with a minute this

27:26

was in Sept it you knew it would fail

27:28

and so thus I will punish him. I put

27:30

my top ten. Good

27:33

good point question though. had you not

27:35

mentioned yes then could we have gone

27:37

the rest of our lives without ever

27:39

hearing about it again? I think Probably

27:41

Pretty good chance if we would have

27:43

never heard him. Say

27:46

that that that didn't exist. Total Mandela effect

27:49

the would have been would happen with Alan.

27:51

are right. By. The way you know,

27:53

eighty for Brady came out the sheer. Now.

27:55

Feels like a years ago.

27:58

Members Nine I'm did. Next

28:01

one of my list. You

28:03

know you why good things in the

28:05

people involved here to good idea that

28:08

execution. Expand for

28:10

both. No. Gas.

28:13

So bad Man, that's number two on

28:15

my list of it. So bad it

28:18

so best. What? Are you doing

28:20

fly? Isn't multiple in a row

28:22

now that? it's just. A They

28:24

are they whatever. the opposite of Tom Cruise

28:26

is sense of. They'll make

28:28

mean is that? Wait, Why has

28:31

right now. I'm.

28:33

Like got wall? you know, the

28:36

director Scale Kutcher. Why

28:39

I'm in the. You

28:42

know, The. First couple of either.

28:45

They're. Not good but they're fun. They're least

28:47

mine in lake. you can sit in a

28:49

theater and and in be like I had

28:51

a good time at that for a couple

28:53

hours. This one. Will.

28:56

This one was really. Really?

28:58

Rough and. Me

29:01

when you start hadn't. When

29:04

it's when Megan Fox's the They Draw

29:06

are now we just stop. I would

29:08

say that we just move on with

29:10

our lives. The display speak for yourself,

29:12

but. It

29:14

looks does. It's tough man, it's

29:17

tough, but not great. Agree it's

29:19

word for expendables for a sly

29:21

killed himself off pretty early in

29:23

the movie. And not just as.

29:27

Sort. Of a weird. Buddy.

29:29

Movie between. Jason Statham,

29:32

the many cities and feather they legalize

29:34

it and that were being on. How?

29:36

yeah If I guess if it isn't

29:38

that he's A, he's also their. Klaus.

29:42

What a movie expend for boss!

29:46

Is our number five as the same?

29:48

I never got Gerber in. This really

29:50

is a shame. The

29:52

only way to rejuvenate it? right?

29:56

Now. Is my number five? What's your number five? Brian?

29:59

My. Number five: The blast. Oh.

30:02

From. The jones says the baby

30:04

microwave seen. Remains.

30:07

One of the most inexplicable. The.

30:10

Had sequences ever in it in a

30:12

big budget movie. And it's

30:14

directors trying to sell us on

30:17

the terrible Cg. I was was

30:19

done by choice to Ezra Miller

30:21

in general I would say is

30:23

is not not my favorite part

30:26

of a superhero movies. The.

30:28

Commitment To Ezra Miller Despite

30:30

everything for the last three

30:32

years to go through all

30:34

the they went through to

30:36

make sure that they could

30:38

get Ezra Freaking Miller. As.

30:40

The Flash in This movie. And.

30:43

Then for it's it's. Just

30:45

gamble on stumbling isn't it? would

30:47

be too nice to see watch

30:49

it like slot right on the at.

30:52

the starter pistol is ah man

30:54

it's. Tough. This is

30:56

it. Sort of a microcosm of everything

30:58

that the Dc universe is doing. Marvel

31:01

had a bad year this year too. So.

31:04

Thoroughly negative is trying to to advocate for one

31:06

or the other in the year of Twenty Twenty

31:08

Three, but. The. Year

31:10

of just an abysmal movie that gets

31:12

worse with with time. My opinion. I

31:15

agree, it's number three on

31:17

my list. Okay, So

31:20

countries only one left on mind and

31:22

has not been mentioned so far. The

31:24

bottom. Of the air.

31:27

So. Transformers. The

31:30

Flash, and Freelance. But.

31:32

My number one has not been mentioned yet. As

31:34

we move to Richard for his

31:36

next. Worse? Yeah, Well

31:38

this one has been mentioned several Buddhist

31:41

gloss over it. Awkward man to. A

31:44

baby like I'm. The.

31:46

Maybe life will mela ten percent more. The way

31:49

was as I am now. share

31:51

their says that of associated are

31:53

now i don't care sakara declared

31:56

i got paid yeah have you

31:58

seen dakota johnson Lately talking about

32:00

Madame Webb, she's pulling the same thing. She's just

32:02

like, yeah, it's probably not gonna be good. It

32:05

looks pretty bad to me. It was the worst

32:07

experience of my life of filming it and all

32:09

this stuff. I was in front of a green

32:11

screen the whole time, I have no idea. Yeah.

32:14

You can go with your next movie, Richard.

32:16

Then keep it in the family. Shazam, Fury

32:18

of the Gods. Fury

32:20

of the Gods, I'm gonna go with that. That'd be cooler. Yeah,

32:23

he's got a little tail hanging out. It

32:28

would have been maybe a little

32:30

higher. It probably still would have been bottom 10 for

32:32

me, but maybe a little higher in the top bottom

32:34

10 if the star of it hadn't wept because no

32:36

one saw it. That's gonna knock it down a few

32:39

times. Yeah. It's

32:41

a Rudy Go Bear rule, if you will. The video

32:43

of him begging us to see it is actually in

32:45

my top 10. Yeah.

32:48

Got a lot

32:50

of joy out of that. So, yeah. That's

32:53

a great joke. That's

32:57

funny, yeah. Thank you. I

33:01

like that movie fine enough, but I

33:04

am with your purpose. I

33:06

mean, big time. Yeah, I understand. That

33:08

was all time. An opposite of

33:11

a Ramona. Ramona saw

33:13

that and was like, okay, no, dude. Yeah.

33:17

Now I know what the PR people told him.

33:19

Just do the opposite of what this

33:21

guy did, which is, you're good. Yeah.

33:25

People will love you. Yeah, the Rock kinda did

33:27

it too. It was like, less of a way

33:29

made. Oh, for sure, yeah. The

33:31

Rock was like, actually, my accountants looked

33:33

at the info and it made

33:35

so much money, guys. Y'all have no idea. It

33:39

was pretty rough, dude. That was rough. And

33:42

thus, he's back wrestling. We

33:44

called it. It's the only thing that can

33:46

save him. And the only

33:48

one left on my list, I'll just mention it, it'd

33:51

only be flaming hot. Number

33:54

11. Oh, Brian. How

33:58

Is it now? Now is their 10 worst moves. The

34:00

inflame and I instantly not sit with.

34:02

I promise get to go see Hypnotic

34:04

the it again Know what's like min

34:07

hot again for homeless. Guy

34:09

you on a good excuse The Oscar

34:11

nominated women I have given themselves of

34:13

respects on all over the box art

34:15

already an. F Failure

34:18

on all fronts that acting Bad

34:20

scripts, bad direction. Bad. Idea.

34:23

Stuff. Now. Fragile had sores.

34:26

Yeah, he'll sit in. The end of

34:28

the story was a complete fraud to

34:30

access. It

34:32

was offensively bath. Claimants.

34:37

Are you not your what? Had a few

34:39

about Eva Longoria his next directorial. Will

34:41

knock. Raids. It's

34:43

the story of fun. What is the

34:45

opposite of target area? That

34:48

ship. Cinematic universe. The

34:51

story of audience Yeah. Ah,

34:55

sweaty just to save big eyed guy walks is

34:58

like you know you don't have anything that's Id

35:00

and favorite and I wish I didn't. Say

35:04

that again. Would say that again. For

35:06

the Flame and Hot is my number

35:09

one Brian of what what movies are

35:11

left on your list I can't imagine

35:13

there's any of Go have more three

35:15

and one laughs. Ah I beer to

35:17

the three or Netflix movies the other

35:19

one I watched on Netflix. Oh damn

35:22

A give you a hint as to

35:24

my least able player of the years.

35:26

The first movie I saw this year

35:28

I believe was. The Netflix

35:30

rom com your place or mine

35:32

stirring Reese Witherspoon. And Ashton

35:34

Kutcher. In our yeah, forgot

35:36

about that. Had. A

35:38

long time soon. that sat there was like

35:41

the only Twenty Twenty Three movie on my

35:43

letterbox for like a month. Because we're still

35:45

doing. The. catcher from twenty twenty do

35:47

you know this clip the longer had sat

35:49

at the top of the list even though

35:52

it was the only movie their them the

35:54

more the angrier i got and so i

35:56

love wrong cause i hate there were the

35:58

there was a movie or to this year

36:00

the did rom-com very well like kind of

36:02

reminded of what the genre

36:04

can be but as as Netflix's

36:07

want to do instead of

36:09

doing that they just like said what

36:11

if these two people were in a movie together and

36:13

that was like the premise of the whole the

36:16

whole movie it was it's brutal

36:18

and not funny and you

36:20

know Ashton Kutcher had a rough year so maybe

36:23

I should just leave him alone but yeah

36:25

that was awful that's number four Richard you

36:27

have movies left anything left on yours I've

36:29

got two left my number three okay go

36:31

ahead yeah go my

36:33

number three is Ant-Man

36:35

and the Wasp Quantum Mania tough

36:38

yeah yeah that just it's more of

36:40

an aesthetic choice just that was just

36:43

an assault and I did not

36:45

like that give it you you want to do

36:47

your next one yeah sure number

36:49

three on my list is Gal

36:52

Gadot's Netflix

36:54

movie Heart of Stone that you got

36:56

we got to get you out of

36:59

the house I

37:01

appreciate the work you do for the show I love you

37:03

for it because God knows I'm not doing it we're

37:06

all worried about you we got it

37:08

yeah it's fine just gotta get through the

37:11

work hours you know this is we

37:13

got to get you we got to get you a harder job good

37:20

yeah artist

37:22

own kind of made the mother look like a

37:24

really good action that tells you

37:26

how bad because that was that movie again was

37:29

in my bottom ten imagine I don't is terrible

37:31

imagine all the people live in life in peace

37:33

though so how do you follow that

37:36

you know her masterpiece of 2020 I just we maybe we may

37:41

just need to like get I don't know

37:43

do some do some training

37:46

maybe like figure out your craft just

37:48

a little bit maybe it's rough it's

37:50

a really rough movie overall just really

37:52

really bad poor idea poor execution so

37:55

not great and I'm looking I just pulled it

37:57

up on letterbox almost everybody in The

37:59

man fam that. It has seen it. It's like. It's

38:02

a star or a half star. Alison

38:05

Krauss hurt so the Coetzee know. I've

38:08

got one more the has been mentioned but we really

38:10

tough weren't So what's your what's your the movie we

38:12

have your homework might one more is one. I think

38:14

a lot of people liked. Thought. I

38:16

would really like it fired up excitedly.

38:19

And the Deathly My Wheelhouse kind of thing

38:21

and then just found it really great. in

38:23

some reason or movie I did not care

38:25

for at all and like really angered me

38:27

in a lot of ways. And that's movie

38:30

called Dumb Money. Oh well, yeah

38:32

yeah I really did not get and are

38:34

at odds of that and think it's a

38:36

cool stories to be told. it's funded. They

38:38

did it so quick. It's not something that's

38:40

like you know. Sometimes it's fun to have

38:42

the the great hindsight of history. Sometimes it's

38:44

fun to make things a little more closer

38:47

to the moments. and as something about this

38:49

the tone of it. Seems

38:51

so odd, original and like

38:53

I'm. Trying to be

38:55

ten other movies at once and I just

38:58

sounded very greedy so and I was get

39:00

asked me some of this is like what

39:02

angers me the most. I

39:05

got go. The Transformers Transformers is a worse movie

39:07

probably than dumb money, but I'm in a puddle.

39:09

Money higher on my list because I expected to

39:11

be such a royal sir. Yes, Yes,

39:14

I might have a one is a flash. I'll just say.

39:17

Devices terrible so we are

39:19

taught about it. Yeah. Number

39:21

one for me is the machine. Ah,

39:23

Yes, I. Would. I

39:26

would just really love this if I just

39:28

never had to see that guy again ever

39:30

than a movie like I liked The Time

39:32

Limited. Ah stand up of that story. I

39:35

mean I've swats at a bunch times I'm

39:37

I live. It's funny but then didn't need

39:39

to be a movie. I.

39:41

Do not find him funny at all. like

39:43

it does not. He doesn't land for me

39:45

in. In. The slightest I see a my

39:48

pop up on tic toc and or yeah, I

39:50

know, I know he's got lots of fans. Either

39:52

com subject is a lever, else. How

39:56

this is a movie. I. It.

39:58

is is unsound This is probably the only

40:01

movie on the list this year where I'm

40:03

like, this probably makes the decade like the

40:05

worst of the decade Loads

40:09

did this I hated it so much

40:11

that when When the

40:13

Chiefs were playing the Bills and and

40:16

Jason Kelsey was jumping around like doing

40:18

being awesome I think Jason Kelsey's awesome

40:20

really funny guy dig his whole bit

40:23

Just going shirtless and hanging out with the fans

40:25

and everything was really funny All

40:27

I could think was when this inevitably gets made

40:29

into a movie It's gonna be this this freaking

40:32

Burt whatever his name is and that is gonna

40:34

make me hate it So that's

40:36

how that's the level of of

40:39

dislike Yeah, you could do Tom Segura

40:41

and Burt Kreischer are the Kelsey brothers

40:43

You really could in that we do it

40:45

now we do it on the Joe Rogan

40:48

streaming network And

40:50

we make a billion dollars. Uh-huh.

40:52

Yeah, and we just we just

40:54

disappear Yeah

40:59

But it has a shirt off Brian. I mean, isn't that

41:01

I know areas it I Can't

41:04

I don't I don't get it. It's fine

41:06

if you do it's not for me But

41:08

I do feel like we can all agree there

41:10

is zero reason why this wasn't dude. He was

41:12

the original Van Wilder, man Put

41:16

a shirt on you dork Wow,

41:19

yeah, I have horrible news for you by the

41:21

way, I saw this on Instagram the other day.

41:24

He's Jack now So, oh,

41:26

okay, baby. He's gonna do it. Maybe he'll

41:28

do Yeah,

41:33

we thought James Gunn was good but

41:35

no he's Krishna Gordon so It's

41:39

a real it's a real L Wow

41:44

what a bad year it was there's

41:46

some bad ones But we need

41:49

to talk about The most disappointing

41:51

movie of the year might not have been in

41:53

the bottom ten on your list But

41:56

it sure left you disappointed. I'll go

41:58

first My

42:00

most disappointing is just

42:03

because my anticipation was so high, people

42:05

involved, story I'm into. The

42:09

movie was… Doth Beanie Bubble. Is

42:11

that… Doth Beanie Bubble. Okay.

42:14

Sorry. Ferrari. Oh,

42:17

okay. Liked it, but

42:19

like at the outset I was like, oh, this is going to be

42:22

easily be Top 10. And

42:24

it wasn't, so most disappointing. I

42:27

think it was because by the time I

42:29

saw Ferrari, I had come down

42:31

on what I thought it was going to be. I had

42:33

the opposite deal with it. I

42:35

was like, okay, actually this is going to be kind of

42:38

a bummer. And I'm going to be bummed

42:40

that man is still

42:43

not back. And instead I was like, no,

42:45

this is actually pretty good. Like I… At the beginning of

42:47

the year I would have thought this is a Top 10

42:49

movie for me of the year. By the

42:51

time I actually saw it, I was just hoping that

42:53

it wasn't going to be bad. And I felt like

42:55

it was pretty good. It did not make my Top

42:57

10. It won't be anywhere close. But I found it

42:59

to be pretty decent, pretty decent

43:02

plus even, whereas coming in

43:04

I was maybe expecting it was going to be

43:06

actually bad. Yeah. I

43:09

don't know where I am on Adam

43:11

Driver. Still processing it maybe.

43:13

Maybe if it was an Adam Driver in

43:15

the lead I would feel different. Maybe

43:18

that was just a bit hard to process. All

43:21

right. What's your most

43:24

disappointing, Brian? I'm just

43:26

going to kind of give sort of a

43:28

blanket. And it's just like big

43:31

blockbuster movies. This was a bad year

43:33

obviously money wise for the

43:36

big blockbusters, the tentpole kind of movies. Those

43:38

are usually the ones that I look forward

43:41

to the most. And

43:44

whether you're

43:47

talking Ant-Man or even

43:50

the Marvels or Mission

43:53

Impossible, Dead Reckoning, and

43:56

some of these others that came along. It

44:00

sort of hold up the year for us. I

44:02

think that's why I was

44:05

sort of down on the year going, at

44:07

least into like December, is just because it

44:09

felt like the story so much. It

44:12

felt like so much of the narrative this year was

44:14

about Indiana Jones tanking

44:16

or Ant-Man being

44:20

ugly and tanking or whatever

44:23

else along the lines

44:25

you get with these big movies. And so that

44:27

kind of left like a certainly

44:30

bad taste, but it just it left the

44:32

impression I feel like that this year was a bummer

44:34

and a downer. And then

44:36

again, like we said at the outset, then he kind of look

44:38

at it like, actually, this is a really good year. I had

44:40

a good time with it. I just didn't have a great time

44:42

with a lot of the biggest movies of the year. And that

44:45

that's pretty disappointing for me personally. So

44:48

there wasn't just one movie. Box

44:51

office wise, it's Indiana Jones without question. But

44:53

I liked that movie well

44:55

enough. SpaceX and

44:57

Ant-Man, I think are probably the two

44:59

that are like, hey, I was really

45:01

looking forward to both of those movies

45:03

because we like the series even when

45:05

they're not good necessarily. I like the

45:07

I didn't think either of those movies was as

45:10

bad, I think, as you guys did. But

45:12

even still to walk out of a fast of

45:14

a fast movie and be like, hey,

45:16

when are we going to be done with this? Because

45:18

I'm kind of not enjoying this anymore was

45:21

quite a bummer, given

45:23

how much we've loved those movies over the years.

45:26

All right, Richard, most disappointing. Yeah,

45:29

for me, it's a no brainer. Definitely

45:31

not in my bottom 10, but definitely thought this would

45:34

be my top 10 of the year and it's Maestro.

45:37

I figured that would be yours. That's

45:39

why I'm willing Ferrari. So it would have been

45:42

mine probably. Yeah, similar choice to yours. But

45:46

yeah. All right. We're

45:48

not at all. I'm the least

45:50

valuable player of

45:52

the year. I'm kind of got

45:55

a Brian Gill answer with this one. Cheating

45:57

a little bit. valuable

46:00

player is Bob

46:03

Eicher. Okay I'm

46:06

excited to read the book in like two years

46:08

called 2023 the year that

46:10

sank Disney and just

46:13

just crazy crazy times a lot of

46:16

failures a lot

46:18

of money lost now

46:20

Mickey's in the public domain there's

46:22

crazy stuff happening right now so

46:26

the one through line

46:28

with all of those releases is

46:31

this big Bob so got to give him the

46:33

least valuable player he could have prevented all of

46:35

this so

46:39

that's my answer what about you Brian Netflix

46:42

really could you say streamers

46:44

in general like of

46:46

my bottom ten there's only two that I saw

46:49

in theaters there are a couple others that were

46:51

theater movies don't get me wrong but if I

46:53

added in some some honorable mentions it would have

46:55

been things like Flamin' Hot and White

46:58

Man Can't Jump like why why did we call

47:00

that White Man Can't Jump cuz that was it

47:02

was rough and ghosted the

47:04

anodarmus Chris Evans joint

47:07

and on up the like

47:09

the the majority of

47:11

the the bad to like mediocre

47:14

but not an enjoyable mediocre

47:16

even are were all movies

47:18

that were vastly

47:21

movies that were streaming exclusive

47:23

or came straight to

47:25

stream here whatever else in that and

47:28

one hand it's like yeah I guess that's kind of what

47:30

you would you expect at a certain point but at the

47:32

other hints like this is why you want

47:35

those movies to be decent because that's that's what you

47:37

it's readily accessible you can watch those movies at any

47:39

point and then for them to just consistently

47:42

be crappy is as

47:44

a bummer so I

47:46

don't know that it was an unexpected bummer necessarily but

47:49

this this to me felt like in and

47:51

a really bad year for

47:54

for the streaming services just

47:56

overall yeah I sent

47:58

you guys a number the other day I

48:00

said Peacock lost a billion dollars in

48:02

the last quarter. I don't

48:04

even understand how that's possible, but. Well,

48:08

streaming seems to be getting less and

48:10

less popular as the years go by,

48:12

which is crazy. I think it's reconsolidating

48:14

into Netflix, right? Netflix has had a

48:16

great end of year financially.

48:18

I mean, that ad tier is

48:21

huge, you know, and them kind of

48:23

funneling everyone to that now with their

48:25

pricing and everything. They've maintained

48:27

a ton of profitability

48:31

and they're gonna keep trying

48:33

to make compelling things. And maybe one of

48:35

these years, they'll figure out. I mean, they

48:37

definitely have stopped flooding the market with things,

48:39

to the level that they were. But yeah,

48:41

there's a lot of crap for sure, creatively

48:43

on there. But I think what's crazy is

48:45

now in your scene, the

48:48

HBOs of the world, the Disney's of the world,

48:50

the whatever are licensing their stuff back to Netflix

48:52

to get it eyeballs. And it's

48:54

really interesting, getting people hooked on

48:56

shows, the suits of it all, proved

48:58

as dumb as that kind of phenomenon.

49:00

Well, not dumb, just out of nowhere

49:02

that phenomenon was with suits. It's like,

49:05

that was eye opening to a lot of

49:07

these people that's like, suits could live on

49:09

Peacock and no one will ever see it

49:12

for 50 years. Or, we can give it

49:14

to Netflix temporarily, whatever.

49:17

Maybe license it for a year, license only half

49:19

of the season. I mean, that's the thing I'm

49:21

seeing that they're talking about a lot is saying,

49:23

okay, we have a six season show, let's give

49:25

three seasons to Netflix, get people hooked on it,

49:28

and then say if you wanna see out of

49:30

three seasons, you gotta come get Paramount Plus or

49:32

whatever. There's things that people

49:34

are trying to use Netflix

49:36

now is seeing it less as a competitor, which of

49:38

course it is if they're going to stay in the

49:41

distributed business, but also seeing it more as a distributor.

49:43

Richard, did you have a least valuable player, by the

49:45

way? I did have a least valuable player. Not only

49:47

in terms of performance in a movie, but in

49:49

terms of being, you know,

49:52

Bill Parcells, who I know you're familiar with, Kent, had

49:55

the great saying, the best ability is availability.

49:58

When you're not available to even... promote your

50:00

crappy movie, you got to be the LVP. So that's

50:02

Ezra Miller. Yeah.

50:09

A double roll. Yeah. That's probably the

50:11

right. Yeah, exactly. He's got a high

50:14

usage rate and terrible efficiency. So that

50:17

is definition of LVP. That's

50:20

Jordan pool numbers, homie. Exactly.

50:26

Wow. Would

50:28

not have been 2023 without Ezra. So

50:32

I had to get that in there. Thanks. All

50:34

right. Best of

50:36

the year time fellas. Let's

50:39

start with honorable mentions.

50:41

Is there anyone to mention before we do our top

50:44

10, Brian? You

50:47

know, I kind of look at this

50:49

as tears usually and really

50:53

probably the last like three movies that

50:55

made my top 10. You can

50:57

maybe even swap out for the next like five

50:59

or eight that are on the list here for

51:01

me. I

51:03

won't go in on any of them just in case

51:05

they're on your, you guys list. I think

51:08

the five that missed the list that were the

51:10

closest were John Wick for Wonka, which

51:13

is very controversial in

51:16

our discord. It's been an interesting, it's

51:18

been a fun one to watch people

51:20

see and have different opinions on. Asteroid

51:24

City and then the

51:26

Kane Mutiny, Court Marshall,

51:29

which was, I think was on Showtime maybe.

51:32

Did I, William Freakin's last movie, which

51:35

I think was my weekly recommend last week that

51:37

are really dug. Those are the five that were

51:40

just on the outside. And

51:42

then again, there's probably another five or 10 movies

51:44

I could mention here. Cause it was a good

51:47

year. Is the top heavy

51:49

strong year in that like A

51:53

to light A plus kind of

51:55

range. So yeah. I've

51:58

got five. I

52:00

gave four stars to that did not quite

52:02

make the top ten that would

52:04

be the creator Chicken

52:07

run dog of the nugget Love

52:09

it love chicken run. Yeah,

52:12

spider-man across the spider-verse Ferrari and

52:14

the killer my

52:17

five just out of the top ten are At

52:20

15 talk to me Which

52:22

was really good. I don't know. I saw that the

52:25

killer Barbie

52:28

bow is afraid And

52:30

the holdovers a lot multiple here

52:33

man for plus stars movie for me

52:35

on my according to my rankings Didn't

52:38

make it and I'm with you Brian.

52:40

I had John Wick chapter 4 slightly out of that too

52:43

I was a tough one to cut and the creator

52:45

too. So I have 32 movies this

52:47

year now that includes some docs So

52:50

I don't know what the actual Number

52:53

is bad 32 movies that I gave four

52:55

stars or more to which nice I

52:58

would guess is a high from The

53:01

podcast era I could be wrong on that but it seems

53:03

it seems higher than normal. So that's good. It's

53:06

good year Absolutely. I'll

53:08

start us off here with my number 10 and

53:11

this is a movie I kept coming back to Kept

53:15

thinking about went back and watched it again

53:17

enjoyed it more on the second time

53:19

and just really enjoy

53:21

it appreciated the approach to this I

53:24

Feel like I always have a few movies on

53:27

my list that are just you know, kind of the low-budget

53:30

horror thriller type Movie

53:32

maybe something like that. No one will save you

53:35

You guys see this? Hmm. No, I know

53:37

that hurts. I did. Yeah. Yeah,

53:39

I wasn't a fan This is

53:41

this is my dungeon. Oh, okay Yeah,

53:44

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I liked it a lot

53:46

had a kind of a no dialogue thing

53:48

going on really liked how

53:50

they Did

53:53

the UFO stuff was

53:55

really pretty well done, you know,

53:58

I don't know how

54:00

realistic it is, but it was entertaining. I'll

54:03

say that and definitely

54:05

enjoyed the heck out of it. Even

54:09

more on the second time. No one will save

54:11

you. Really appreciated that.

54:14

So I had to give it a shout out there. What's your number 10, Brian? Thought

54:18

about revisiting it this week just to kind of

54:20

solidify, because it was early in the year that

54:22

we saw it. Ultimately just kind

54:24

of ran out of time. Number

54:27

10 for me is Creed III. The other

54:29

reason for not revisiting it is like, it's

54:31

a real bummer that Jonathan Majors

54:33

turned out to be a terrible person, because

54:37

he's a huge part of what makes that movie work.

54:39

And why it's so good. I mean, we

54:41

all walked out of that feeling

54:43

like, gosh, this guy is just, I

54:46

mean, he's going to be so huge.

54:48

And then, unfortunately he's

54:50

apparently the worst. So I

54:53

don't know how many times I'm gonna revisit

54:55

this one the way I do Creed, but

54:57

I was very impressed with Michael

54:59

B. Jordan as the director and the star. I

55:02

thought that a lot of the set,

55:04

having the big match play out at

55:07

Dodger Stadium was really cool. A lot of great

55:10

visuals in this and great acting.

55:12

And so I have a feeling

55:14

that this is gonna be kind of a movie

55:16

that's forgotten over the years, in part, again, because

55:18

of the Jonathan Majors thing. But

55:21

for a good six, seven months of the year, I

55:24

was like, that might be the best movie I've seen

55:26

this year. And it was, so I think it deserves

55:28

a spot here, for me, at least. Yeah,

55:30

for sure. Yeah, I'd moved Ant-Man

55:33

significantly down the list as the year

55:35

went on because of Jonathan Majors. Like

55:37

that, I mean,

55:40

it's so important to that. I mean, like, where

55:42

do you go with that movie?

55:45

What do you do with that movie now that we

55:47

know what we know about where it's going? You know,

55:49

I mean, so much of it hinges on that. It's

55:53

just almost impossible to go back and watch

55:55

it. So yeah, it's tough. That man, Creed

55:57

III, I Forgot about that.

56:00

Dodgers. Stadium. Seen that

56:02

was great and. Ah,

56:04

what's your number ten? Richard. Wes

56:07

Anderson's Asteroid City

56:09

You. Enjoyed. It a

56:11

I would say return to form

56:13

though it was definitely a director,

56:16

writer, filmmaker, Operating

56:18

in a space or he does

56:20

really well in that kind of

56:22

ensemble comedy. You

56:25

know, it's obviously very mannered and very

56:27

hum. Tactically put

56:29

together and waterways would sometimes

56:31

susan you know, post Tenenbaums.

56:35

Can be annoying but then when it sometimes it

56:37

all just hits kind of like music and in

56:39

an of this one worked for me and and

56:41

you guys know there's been other ones at that

56:43

habit but I thought I thought this one the

56:45

right. He was really strong and dumb, services were

56:48

great and we had a good discussion about and

56:50

all that. so yeah as reads it in of

56:52

my daughter which I was surprised. At

56:54

his cabinet's it's phone with the kind of

56:56

with the letterbox piece of muslim with a

56:58

deal with letterbox soo do the like one

57:01

V once when yourself and your list. Okay

57:03

here's everything with the sars. Okay so you're

57:05

right. I tear it out that it's like

57:07

pretty the next each other goes nuts or

57:09

that will more this one cat kind of

57:11

bumping up more and more. Yeah. I

57:14

think about the alien seen a movie,

57:16

I'll a lot acts as is and

57:18

is such a strange way to do

57:20

that, and I loved it, magazines such

57:22

a. Wes. Anderson he way to

57:24

do to do an alien coming down out

57:26

of the spaceship and I was at eleven.

57:29

I love the play same yeah that that

57:31

that construct really worked in his made it

57:33

feel little different. Yeah.

57:35

We did an episode on that I

57:37

think. All but one.

57:40

Of the rest of my list, we've done episodes on

57:43

so. Most. Of these if

57:45

you're listening or want to go back and.

57:48

And do more deep dive on them.

57:50

We'd done episodes on most of them,

57:52

if not all of them, so. Ashford.

57:55

City is separately. One. Of those,

57:57

and my number nine. is

58:00

Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse.

58:04

I loved the

58:06

first one and I

58:09

mean I always I said like man if they can improve

58:11

on this I'm gonna really like the

58:13

second one and I thought they did so easy

58:15

entry into the top 10. One

58:18

that we'll watch you know plenty of times here

58:20

in the future and excited

58:22

to see where it's going apparently they're pumping the brakes

58:24

on it because the animation people

58:27

got you know in some

58:30

trouble for pushing this one

58:32

so hard. And so I think they're one

58:34

to look out for is what's going on with

58:37

Lord Miller and that

58:40

Spider-Verse crew because you

58:42

know they blow in our minds every time

58:44

they do something. What's your number

58:46

nine Brian? Yeah just

58:48

a real quick there.

58:51

I have Spider-Verse at number eight and it

58:53

definitely feels like one that could rise up

58:56

maybe significantly so based on

58:59

the next one and how that plays out because

59:01

there is just like a slight incomplete to this

59:03

movie because it's a part one. But

59:06

it's such a good part one. Love

59:09

that movie. Number nine for me is

59:12

one of the last movies I saw this year. People been

59:14

talking about all year and I just hadn't had a chance.

59:17

It wasn't available streaming for a long time and watch

59:19

it super glad I did its

59:22

past lives done

59:25

by Celine Strong. I thought Greta Lee

59:27

was unbelievable in this. It's like shock. I

59:30

mean I was almost as mad about that.

59:32

Maybe I honestly I might be more upset

59:34

about her not getting an

59:36

Oscar nomination than I am with Margot

59:38

Robbie. She's brilliant in

59:40

the movie and a lot

59:43

of the surrounding work is so good

59:45

as well. But it's I'm

59:47

not somebody who has like

59:49

a lot of you know

59:53

regret and road not taken kind

59:55

of syndrome with some of this

59:57

stuff. It is present. Because

1:00:00

of that, I wasn't sure that I was going

1:00:02

to totally connect with the movie the way other

1:00:04

people seem to be and could not have been

1:00:06

further from the truth. It is

1:00:08

presented so well and so beautifully. It's

1:00:13

impossible, in my opinion, it's kind of impossible

1:00:15

not to connect with the story and the

1:00:17

way that it's being told. Really

1:00:20

a remarkable, really well-made movie that

1:00:22

I loved quite a bit. Yeah,

1:00:26

totally. I totally agree. I

1:00:30

think it has a low-key shot at Best Picture maybe, too.

1:00:33

Sure. She is in the morning show though

1:00:35

and those people have to be punished. So

1:00:38

I understand. That's true. That's true.

1:00:41

It's fair. It's fair. It's very

1:00:43

fair. It's just borsam. Yeah. All

1:00:46

right. What you got for us at number nine, Richard? Sorry.

1:00:49

Number nine, a little movie. I don't know if you guys have

1:00:51

heard of it, called Barbie. Indie

1:00:54

pick. Real

1:00:56

flop. And then

1:01:00

kind of picked up some momentum late in the year. So

1:01:02

yeah, Barbie's number nine for me. This

1:01:05

is one. There was stuff that was higher

1:01:08

than I expected. This was a little lower than I expected when I

1:01:10

set out to make this list, but just barely

1:01:12

liked a lot of things slightly more than it. But

1:01:14

it's definitely on the tier with everything that's like three

1:01:17

through nine. So all those could easily, based on my

1:01:19

mood, move or five through nine.

1:01:21

But yeah, great. It's such a actually

1:01:23

very high degree of difficulty for that kind of

1:01:25

movie and is executed so well. Such

1:01:28

a fun tone. So many

1:01:30

great performances and all that good stuff. So

1:01:33

kudos to all involved for

1:01:35

Barbie. Shout out, Greta

1:01:37

Gang. Greta Gang shirts now on sale. Not

1:01:40

about movies, podcasts.com. You're company man.

1:01:42

Good for you. Not a joke. You

1:01:44

see people buying those. So shout out to the

1:01:46

Greta Gang. Man, that's a

1:01:48

good one. It was slightly, slightly

1:01:50

out of

1:01:53

the top ten for me. I'll

1:01:55

go with my number eight here.

1:01:58

It's one that came out early in the year. year,

1:02:00

stuck with me, was very high on the list earlier

1:02:02

in the year but ended up staying in the top

1:02:05

10. I think we said in the

1:02:07

episode when we reviewed it, why

1:02:09

can't every movie be air?

1:02:12

Because I think it should try to

1:02:14

be. Air was awesome. So

1:02:17

fun and enjoyable. Is it?

1:02:19

Okay, perfect. You and I are aligned there, so. I

1:02:22

mean, just knew exactly what it was. Great

1:02:25

pace to it. Yeah, I

1:02:27

mean, lighthearted, kind of comedic

1:02:29

tone but also dramatic, you

1:02:33

know, good acting, a dad

1:02:36

movie of the year candidate for

1:02:38

sure. Without a ship

1:02:40

or World War II, so it's hard to do.

1:02:43

It's a whole different category of dad movie or

1:02:45

Tom Hanks. That's what

1:02:47

would have propelled it probably to the top, if

1:02:49

it took place in the sub. Yeah, that would

1:02:51

be sick. Imagine Michael Jordan Duncan in the sub.

1:02:55

Oh, for a minute. All right. Again,

1:02:57

that's like, give way all the good ideas. Yeah. I'm

1:03:01

with you though, Brian, when you said,

1:03:03

Vail, a dayless deserved a – an

1:03:07

Oscar nomination for it. That's so dead on. It

1:03:09

totally got overshadowed

1:03:11

because it was literally a year ago.

1:03:15

It feels like when this movie came out but deserves

1:03:17

your time if you didn't get a chance to see it. And

1:03:21

it was my number one for a good

1:03:23

long while, literally until the rest of these movies

1:03:25

came out, so shout

1:03:27

out to Air for being just – guys,

1:03:30

we don't have to spend $100 million on everything. Okay,

1:03:32

we don't. Just be Air. Brian, what's your

1:03:35

number eight? Just be Air. That's

1:03:37

right. Number eight for me

1:03:39

is Spider-Man, Cross Spider-Verse. So we've

1:03:41

already talked about it. Can't wait to see what the

1:03:43

next one's going to be and may

1:03:46

raise that up even a little bit more. I love the movie. What

1:03:49

about your eight, Richard? My

1:03:52

eight was Air. My number seven is Killers

1:03:55

of the Flower Moon.

1:03:58

Not a big three-hour-plus movie. guy

1:04:00

but the story is just so wild

1:04:03

and affecting and traumatic in so many

1:04:05

ways and it's

1:04:07

so impeccably well made. Scorsese is

1:04:09

having the best 80s anyone

1:04:12

ever. It's like Tom Brady at this point,

1:04:14

80 for Brady, which

1:04:16

a lot of people don't know he did

1:04:18

direct under a pseudonym. But really,

1:04:21

really incredible piece of

1:04:23

work and so such

1:04:25

a downer. So it's harder to put any higher on

1:04:27

my list but I respect it so much and I've

1:04:29

thought about it so much since. Awesome.

1:04:35

My number seven is Blackberry.

1:04:39

Oh nice. Air and

1:04:41

Blackberry back to back. Hey man, you and I

1:04:43

are in the Lion Kent this year. You're gonna

1:04:46

see Blackberry later on. Okay. This wins the award

1:04:48

for movie that was way better than

1:04:50

it had any right to be on

1:04:53

all fronts. Every performance,

1:04:55

cinematography, scripts, execution,

1:04:58

direction. I mean

1:05:01

this movie was like you see

1:05:03

the poster, you see, you're like

1:05:05

okay. No, never. And

1:05:07

then you see the movie you're like wow. So

1:05:10

go check this out if you never

1:05:12

got a chance to. Gwen Howerton was

1:05:15

awesome in this movie. Jay

1:05:17

Baruchel was awesome. I've never

1:05:19

thought those words would come out of my mouth but they did

1:05:21

check this movie

1:05:24

out if you didn't get a chance to. Blackberry

1:05:27

was greatness. I think

1:05:29

it was the best of the tech startup

1:05:32

story movies this year which

1:05:35

there were a lot of. Das Bini

1:05:37

bubble included. Business biopics this year.

1:05:39

The tech biopic. Definitely the best

1:05:41

of those. So yeah, that's my

1:05:43

number seven, Blackberry. What about you, Brian? Number

1:05:46

seven for me. One of the only big

1:05:50

crazy, black blustery kind of

1:05:52

tent pole movies that

1:05:54

worked for me that performed. So

1:05:58

Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three. here

1:06:01

could have been as high maybe as like four five actually

1:06:03

I had it like I think

1:06:05

I had it fourth until the last couple

1:06:07

of weeks when you know this some of

1:06:09

this started filling in with the the

1:06:12

awards II kind of movies that we hadn't had chance to

1:06:14

see yet I've rewatched it

1:06:16

a couple of times because like first

1:06:18

time went see it Lindsay didn't go with Cooper and I

1:06:20

then Lindsay and I went see later and then when

1:06:23

it got on Disney Plus Cooper wanted to

1:06:25

rewatch it we ended up doing that again

1:06:27

and I know there's a few people in

1:06:30

our discord that it didn't it didn't work

1:06:32

for didn't connect with for me this was

1:06:34

like the culmination of a lot of what

1:06:37

this series has been doing and

1:06:39

Guardians probably my favorite branch of

1:06:41

the MCU and Rocket

1:06:44

is great and so to center the

1:06:47

movie on Rocket and and his like

1:06:49

character development and history and everything like

1:06:51

that worked for me very well so

1:06:54

all in all like really really rough

1:06:57

year for for Disney and and Marvel

1:07:00

this was a pretty big success in

1:07:02

my opinion for me at least yeah

1:07:05

I think that was the only blockbuster type

1:07:07

movie that even made my top 20 so

1:07:10

besides you can't spider-man but

1:07:13

go ahead and do six my number

1:07:15

six was a movie we just talked about a couple weeks ago

1:07:17

that we all I think love very much and had

1:07:21

a really interesting discussion about that's the iron cloth

1:07:24

hmm nice number four for

1:07:26

me yeah yeah same for

1:07:28

me is number four so so

1:07:31

I hated it compared to you guys all right well yeah what a

1:07:33

jerk this means Brian's

1:07:36

a bigger wrestling fan than you that's all

1:07:38

it means yeah he was some

1:07:42

rest and suffer away this week we were off here

1:07:44

you were saying like the Vince McMahon stuff what was

1:07:46

your thing like wasn't that big of a deal you're

1:07:48

saying normal so I was blown out of

1:07:50

it you said I think guys being dudes I think

1:07:53

you said yeah who who hadn't done

1:07:55

that was your right so

1:07:58

yeah I guess you are I guess you're a big I

1:08:03

said everything that he did was reprehensible. I just

1:08:05

I thought his plastic surgery is really good I

1:08:07

like when he has a mustache. That was my

1:08:09

comic. Kent was the one that was all about

1:08:11

behaviors He

1:08:13

needs to grow the creepy Joe

1:08:16

Jackson mustache back That

1:08:19

was weird Zorro's

1:08:22

that was very odd Well,

1:08:25

all right my

1:08:27

number six Y'all definitely

1:08:30

aren't gonna have it on your list was mutant mayhem

1:08:33

Love this movie. Yeah, just on the

1:08:35

outside. Oh fine. Loved it though again

1:08:38

probably better than it had any right to be Creative

1:08:42

funny good action Everything

1:08:46

you want and a TMNT so

1:08:49

good soundtrack great needle drops and looks

1:08:51

great, too. Yeah super creative excited

1:08:54

to see When

1:08:56

and if they continue so

1:08:58

number six for me was mutant mayhem Let's

1:09:00

go to your number six Brian number six for me is

1:09:02

a movie. I'm very confident is gonna

1:09:04

come up later on on Richard's list Last

1:09:08

movie I saw this year. I'm Made

1:09:11

it I barely made it yesterday to

1:09:13

get this one in because I knew it was gonna be important and

1:09:15

it it did not disappoint

1:09:18

and that's American fiction number six

1:09:20

for Me nice. I did not make it The

1:09:23

tough one I kept hoping that it was gonna go Because

1:09:26

it's an Amazon Prime Release when

1:09:28

it does get released and so I thought

1:09:31

this weekend it might happen. It did not I

1:09:33

had to Rework my

1:09:35

schedule Monday to figure it out But I'm

1:09:38

sure there are a lot of people that are in

1:09:40

that boat is it's so it's

1:09:42

so good so funny But then

1:09:45

like randomly Was

1:09:47

like crying with which it

1:09:49

you know, it's not obviously it's not uncommon for me I

1:09:51

cry in a lot of movies but was

1:09:53

not expecting to cry in that one

1:09:55

like very genuine like oh, holy cow

1:09:57

Like that's a really that's a That

1:10:00

kind of stabbed me in the heart a little bit. Done

1:10:03

very well. Again, I'm sure it's going

1:10:05

to come up later on Richard's list, but

1:10:07

it's great. Really good. Awesome. What's your number

1:10:10

five? That assumption. Richard. Okay.

1:10:13

My number five is a movie we talked about a

1:10:15

bit, Blackberry. So much better than it needed to be.

1:10:18

Really, really. I actually felt like there's some great

1:10:20

dialogue in it, Howard in his early show performance.

1:10:22

You're right, Barichel's great in this, and I'm not

1:10:24

a fan normally either. I

1:10:26

will say actually the story writing

1:10:28

of this film is really interesting.

1:10:32

It goes in a non ... Everything

1:10:34

Dub Money does, this doesn't. It really kind of

1:10:36

goes, and it tells a full, long

1:10:39

story of a company. It's not just a

1:10:41

startup phase, but it does those jumps really

1:10:43

well, and really

1:10:45

kind of keeps you ... You kind of

1:10:48

know where it's going to end up. It's

1:10:50

not like we're all going to pull out

1:10:52

our Blackberries in them, even though I wish

1:10:54

we would, because my favorite device ever. But

1:10:57

it does kind of have some surprises in there

1:11:00

and things like that. I think it was great.

1:11:02

The stuff with Palm was awesome, and I will

1:11:04

say the really brave choice as a

1:11:06

screenwriter and a director, Matt Johnson, just

1:11:09

making himself the most unlikable character ever.

1:11:12

God, I hate it. And

1:11:14

it's funny because that guy wins at the

1:11:16

end too, but he's just so annoying, the

1:11:19

dog character. This psych

1:11:21

just doesn't get that he's at

1:11:23

a company the entire time. It

1:11:26

is such a loser. So it's always fun to

1:11:28

write a movie and be like, I'm going to be the annoying guy.

1:11:31

So here's to Matt Johnson. Or maybe that guy just sucks in real life. I

1:11:34

mean, he's one or the other. Yeah,

1:11:37

well, that's so true. I

1:11:39

love the Blackberry, what

1:11:41

was it, Storm stuff at the end? Yeah.

1:11:45

With the touchscreen one? I bought that one pretty

1:11:48

soon after it came out, I feel like. Because

1:11:51

I loved Blackberry, but then I got an iPhone

1:11:53

and I was like, well, Blackberry can ever make

1:11:55

something like this. I'll go back to Blackberry. And

1:11:58

it didn't last long. I think I had it for like... a

1:12:00

month or two before I got

1:12:03

rid of it. I wish they still, I mean,

1:12:05

I wish all business phones like work

1:12:07

phones should just have to be blackberries. Just for

1:12:09

email and stuff like that, it's so much better

1:12:11

than the iPhone, but then

1:12:13

everything else on the iPhone is better. Plus buttons

1:12:15

feel good. I'm going to be

1:12:17

brave and

1:12:20

say something that people are scared

1:12:22

to say, but I'm going to be, I know,

1:12:24

I just think myself as a trailblazer. So

1:12:27

much better for texting and driving. I'll

1:12:31

go with P9 for that. P9

1:12:33

was the best for texting

1:12:36

and not looking. All

1:12:38

right, top five now. We've

1:12:41

mentioned a few of these, so

1:12:43

I'll mention my five and four

1:12:45

here. My five was, uh,

1:12:47

asteroid city. One

1:12:50

that's definitely grown on me as the year has

1:12:52

gone on. And number four

1:12:54

is iron claw. Love

1:12:58

both of those. Yes,

1:13:01

lovely. So those are

1:13:05

mine. Brian. Number four

1:13:07

for me is iron claw as well. So we we've

1:13:09

touched on that out there. I just, I really wish

1:13:11

after Efron had gotten to nomination, but

1:13:13

it is what it is. He's going to get

1:13:15

it for a Dibby McWhibby or whatever that is.

1:13:18

Right. Which by the way, looks

1:13:20

neighbors for that looks funny, by the way.

1:13:23

Not going to lie. That trailer is pretty

1:13:25

funny. The outrage. I think it's every funny

1:13:27

movie movie moment in the movie rather, but

1:13:29

I will say that that's a pretty funny

1:13:31

trailer. Yeah. That's number four. Number five for

1:13:34

me. I could come up

1:13:36

on cancel this. Let's see. Godzilla

1:13:38

minus one. Loved

1:13:42

this movie. Uh, when

1:13:44

I was selling it to people too, I was like,

1:13:46

yeah, it's Godzilla. But like, it's also a great

1:13:49

war movie, like a great war

1:13:51

movie. And all of the

1:13:54

emotional elements of it, the like

1:13:56

survivors' guilt with, with the main

1:13:58

character. All that stuff,

1:14:01

all, and like the

1:14:03

cultural element of surviving

1:14:06

in post-war Japan and stuff, is

1:14:08

I can't

1:14:10

believe how well a

1:14:13

Godzilla movie handled all of that stuff.

1:14:15

And so that's a big

1:14:17

part of why I'm as high on this

1:14:19

movie as I am. I was just like,

1:14:21

I went and expected to see a Godzilla

1:14:24

movie and instead it's like a very

1:14:26

affecting war movie that

1:14:28

handles it so remarkably

1:14:30

well. So, and I did

1:14:32

not, did not expect that at all. But yeah,

1:14:34

Godzilla minus one is number five, Iron Claw

1:14:36

number four. Good

1:14:38

stuff, good stuff. Richard,

1:14:41

any wanna mention here before I hit

1:14:43

my top three? Yeah,

1:14:45

I've got my number four I think

1:14:47

I need to do. Let's see, yes,

1:14:50

okay. Number four

1:14:52

for me is a movie that

1:14:54

I saw a couple months

1:14:56

ago. I don't know, liked it. Maybe

1:14:59

just kind of a flat theater experience. Normally

1:15:02

these add to films, the theater, actual experience, but mine just didn't.

1:15:04

Not that it was bad or anything, just kind of came out

1:15:06

going, okay, yeah, I liked it. Thought I would like it, did

1:15:09

like it. We did a review of it. It

1:15:11

was very good. Thought it would be in my, somewhere between 15 and

1:15:14

20 of the year, maybe 10 and 20. And

1:15:16

then this past weekend, my wife hadn't seen

1:15:18

it and we watched it. Just

1:15:21

like threw it on in the morning and then like, part

1:15:24

of me again, atmospherically, my kid came,

1:15:27

Jude woke up from nap and he cuddled with us and just

1:15:29

watched this movie. He was like really into it for like an

1:15:31

hour. It was just a wonderful experience. And

1:15:33

then I just found it so much better

1:15:36

and funnier and more moving and everything in

1:15:38

between and loved it. I haven't even talked

1:15:40

about it for like three days. And that's

1:15:42

Wonka. Nice.

1:15:45

Yeah, that's Wonka number four. Yeah, it jumped up

1:15:47

on a second viewing. It was a great second

1:15:49

viewing. I was catching things I didn't

1:15:51

even remember. I don't know, maybe I was just in a bad mood

1:15:53

or something the day I saw it, but yeah. I

1:15:56

loved it on a second viewing. So that's my number four. I

1:16:00

love that. Really sweet movie, really

1:16:02

joyful and kind. I'm glad

1:16:04

it's really high on your list, man. That was a good

1:16:06

one. I really love that. Alright,

1:16:09

my top three here.

1:16:11

I don't know if this one's been

1:16:13

mentioned, but my number three, Oppenheimer.

1:16:20

Okay. Number two for me. Run the gamut. One, two, three. Yeah,

1:16:24

my top three, I think I probably

1:16:27

switched the order like a few times in the

1:16:29

past few weeks, but it was always

1:16:32

these three movies in some

1:16:34

order. The

1:16:36

order that I landed on

1:16:38

I think was a little

1:16:41

bit of favoritism probably. There's nothing to do

1:16:43

with what this movie's better than this one

1:16:45

or anything like that, but man,

1:16:49

Oppenheimer is great. What

1:16:52

more can I say? It's about as good as it

1:16:54

could be. It's

1:16:56

a true epic of its time. It

1:16:58

was one of two movies that I gave five stars

1:17:00

to this year. Yeah,

1:17:03

it would feel disingenuous if it

1:17:06

doesn't win Best Picture. I feel like I

1:17:08

really do feel that way, but

1:17:12

anything can happen. I

1:17:15

think it'll stand the test of time and we'll

1:17:17

be talking about that one for years to come,

1:17:19

so who cares if it wins

1:17:21

or not, right? Because that's the real

1:17:23

win. So number three for

1:17:25

me was Oppenheimer, two, Killers

1:17:28

of the Flower Moon. He loved

1:17:30

it, obviously. My

1:17:34

number one was

1:17:37

Godzilla, the last one. Nice.

1:17:43

Because at the end of the day, I was like, what's the one that was

1:17:45

A, a great movie, and B, I'm

1:17:47

going to watch probably 100 times

1:17:49

in my life? So

1:17:52

yeah, Godzilla minus one. That's the one. Such

1:17:56

a surprise movie, man. I

1:17:59

wasn't expecting that to be what it is. All right, what

1:18:01

you got Richard anything left I've

1:18:05

got two laughs. I've not been said

1:18:07

yet. Wow number three favorite movie

1:18:09

of the year was The Holdovers Nice

1:18:12

number three. Look at us Brian lined

1:18:14

up boarding

1:18:16

school boys Yeah,

1:18:21

loved it I was gonna paint you

1:18:23

know, he's made some real masterpiece he's made some real

1:18:25

crap He'd never know going to NIMH,

1:18:28

but this was so well so well made and acted

1:18:30

and It's such a

1:18:33

lovely Story, I mean

1:18:35

really just a great story of a film and it goes

1:18:37

many different ways It's great performance. I think it's gonna win

1:18:39

a couple things at the Oscars at least one thing. So

1:18:42

That's that's awesome. It should be its legacy Anything

1:18:45

you want to add Brian? I think

1:18:47

there's three lead acting performances this year

1:18:49

that that if they win

1:18:51

the Oscar I'm not gonna be upset about it.

1:18:53

And this is this is one of Giamatti's incredible.

1:18:55

I love

1:18:57

just like the kind

1:19:00

of small cozy feel of the movie

1:19:02

overall like I

1:19:04

think all of the All

1:19:06

the acting is just so well contained

1:19:08

and and not showy like even do

1:19:10

you I don't think Giamatti's performance is

1:19:12

showy and it Definitely could

1:19:14

be there. So there's probably a couple of scenes that are

1:19:17

kind of the Oscar scene You know when you're when you're

1:19:19

making the movie, but it doesn't it doesn't feel He

1:19:23

doesn't feel showy doesn't feel like he's he's trying

1:19:25

to win an Oscar. I love that I'm just

1:19:27

yeah, the whole vibe is great and And

1:19:31

she's going to win the Oscar and so it's you know,

1:19:33

and that and she deserves it. She should so

1:19:35

yeah Love love this movie. What was

1:19:37

really nice suit is just kind of be reminded like alright, I

1:19:40

was in her pain Downsizing was just like

1:19:42

a weird blip like we we're good. We can

1:19:44

still we can still make good movies So yeah

1:19:46

number number three for me as well. All right,

1:19:48

my number two is Oppenheimer put it What else

1:19:51

can you say? just a

1:19:53

real epic masterpiece and you

1:19:56

know, we'll win a ton of awards and should and It's

1:19:59

all those solve a great quote

1:20:02

today that Christopher Nolan said he's going

1:20:04

to keep making movies at this large of scale because

1:20:06

so many directors don't get to it. It's kind of

1:20:08

his, since he gets to because of the

1:20:10

economics of the he's been able to pull off, he's going to get to it

1:20:12

and do it because he feels like he owes it. And

1:20:14

that's so cool to vacuum. It's so cool

1:20:17

though that he does that with stories like

1:20:19

this and not just in

1:20:22

Tenet and Dunkirk especially

1:20:24

and all that. So it's

1:20:26

really cool that he does that and still was

1:20:28

able to make mass entertainment,

1:20:30

popcorn film that doesn't talk

1:20:32

down to its audience but is historically

1:20:34

and in the history of film

1:20:37

really big and interesting and all that. And then my

1:20:39

number one is American Fiction. Loved it. So

1:20:41

good. Such a great

1:20:43

unbelievable screenplay that like you said,

1:20:45

Brian jumps around from all

1:20:47

kinds of emotions and when it is funny, it

1:20:49

is so funny. So loved

1:20:52

it. Just like so up my

1:20:54

alley as a movie but thought

1:20:57

it was just, I knew I like it and then

1:20:59

came out of it like sprinted into the parking lot,

1:21:01

loved it so much. Couldn't wait to like think about

1:21:03

it more. So yeah, so

1:21:05

those are my top three. Yeah.

1:21:08

American Fiction had a little bit

1:21:10

of that Cohen element of, I

1:21:13

mean there was only like four other people in my theater

1:21:15

and I was

1:21:17

laughing very hard at a lot of the stuff

1:21:20

that was happening and I think I was probably

1:21:22

the only one. That doesn't

1:21:24

happen a whole lot but it is something

1:21:26

that happens with me frequently with Cohen

1:21:28

movies where like inside Loom

1:21:31

and Davis where I just was like

1:21:33

cackling, I was laughing so hard at some of the stuff

1:21:35

and it seemed like no one else

1:21:37

understood that it was a common theme. I thought

1:21:39

I was in Phantom Thread seriously. Me and Steven

1:21:41

were laughing. There's some funny lines in Phantom Thread

1:21:43

and the whole thing is supposed to be weird

1:21:45

and funny and everyone's just like sitting there like

1:21:47

they should be dressed as the cat. It's like

1:21:49

no, you're supposed to be laughing at

1:21:51

him. He's a nerd. Exactly.

1:21:55

All the stuff with the mom and with

1:21:57

the, like the. Here

1:22:00

taker to says super sweet

1:22:02

and in. Kind.

1:22:05

you know at the end and various

1:22:07

other I took. Several.

1:22:10

Good he's He's another one of the three

1:22:12

that's amazing. If if. If he

1:22:14

wins I'm and Mammy is this in

1:22:16

the rape of always great know freakin'

1:22:19

Supporting. Role: Attenborough. That.

1:22:22

Guy. So yes, that's their nice loader.

1:22:24

Slimy to as good as is. Very

1:22:26

good at that. We can

1:22:28

go my. Number one was Oppenheimer i

1:22:31

just think is evelyn other movie them and

1:22:33

or he was the most out of all

1:22:35

the the maybe our the top ten it's

1:22:37

it's the move this the one I'm on

1:22:39

a real we run the least but it's

1:22:41

still. ah. As you guys know, like

1:22:44

masterpieces usually the word that I reserve like

1:22:46

that's the one out I'll call Movie Greater

1:22:48

Awesome or whatever else. I won't say that

1:22:50

and was a I really feel it's a.

1:22:52

Sort. Of generational trade center kind of movie

1:22:54

and that I would say that unless it

1:22:56

is their definitive best movie. right? Because

1:22:59

it's nothing the house okay their regular work

1:23:01

idol noses at a dark now can I

1:23:03

don't know? I I order. To. Be

1:23:05

interesting, there's not a lot of good, will be

1:23:07

any bubbles and all. A nightmare. I don't know

1:23:09

if you get. On

1:23:11

with it. Sir.

1:23:14

Sir. Dot. Oppenheimer's really

1:23:16

care about her that once person?

1:23:19

yes yes no like that generalizing

1:23:21

as as a perfect movie I'd

1:23:23

I imagine it's going to win

1:23:26

just about everything in a i

1:23:28

think it probably depleted pro we

1:23:30

should do for me was Barbie.

1:23:32

I. I think at the end of

1:23:35

the day. And on a maybe this is a poor

1:23:37

way to to do these kinds of things. but I think at the

1:23:39

end of the day. What? I'm going

1:23:41

to think about when it comes

1:23:43

to twenty Twenty Three is is

1:23:45

Barb and I Murray's Oppenheimer in

1:23:47

Barbie. In the way that those

1:23:49

two things work together sort of

1:23:51

unexpectedly and surprisingly ended that it

1:23:53

wasn't. A. disaster for one or both

1:23:56

of them to both come out of the same

1:23:58

time to have since difference different kinds

1:24:00

of movies but still both be such

1:24:03

huge, huge, huge successes. And

1:24:05

really even the way that both of those filmmakers kind of

1:24:07

supported each other through the course of it was a really

1:24:10

cool little sub story to

1:24:12

the year as well. But yeah, I love

1:24:14

Barbie. I've rewatched Barbie a time or two. It's

1:24:17

going to be a great background movie I think for

1:24:20

me moving forward. I think all the performances. Godling

1:24:22

has always been a favorite and so

1:24:25

that was really fun to see him just

1:24:27

really lean into his

1:24:30

comedy styling and

1:24:33

his tone comedically.

1:24:36

Margot Robbie is great. Greta is our

1:24:38

leader. We love her all the way through.

1:24:40

So yeah Oppenheimer number one,

1:24:42

Barbie number two for me. There

1:24:45

you go. Does that

1:24:47

wrap up the list? We'll get to MVPs

1:24:49

here. That's it. That's it. Yeah.

1:24:52

Well there's the list. I'll go over mine

1:24:54

real quick. Mine number

1:24:57

10, no one will save you. Spider-Man

1:25:01

Across the Spider-Verse, Air, Blackberry,

1:25:04

Mutant Mayhem, Asteroid City,

1:25:07

Iron Claw, Oppenheimer, Killers

1:25:09

of the Flower Moon and Godzilla minus one. Richard,

1:25:11

what were your top 10? My

1:25:13

top 10. Starting at number 10,

1:25:16

Asteroid City, Barbie, Air, Killers of

1:25:18

the Flower Moon, The Iron Claw,

1:25:20

Blackberry, Wonka, The Holdovers, Oppenheimer,

1:25:22

and American Fiction. And

1:25:25

Brian, what about you? My number 10 is Creed

1:25:27

3, Past Lives, Spider-Man Across

1:25:30

the Spider-Verse, Guardians of the Galaxy

1:25:32

volume three, American Fiction,

1:25:34

Godzilla minus one, The Iron

1:25:36

Claw, and my top

1:25:38

three, The Holdovers, Barbie, and Oppenheimer. Most

1:25:41

surprising movie for me this year, I

1:25:44

already mentioned it but it was Blackberry without

1:25:47

a doubt. Most surprised

1:25:49

I've been about a movie in quite some

1:25:51

time. That's mine. Surprising

1:25:54

movie, Richard. Mine

1:25:57

was surprised that I liked it as much

1:25:59

as I did and that's... That's the creator. Yeah.

1:26:02

I didn't think you would mention that one in the

1:26:05

top of the year at all and you did. Yeah.

1:26:08

That's a surprise. What

1:26:12

about you, Brian? I think

1:26:14

I'll go with Godzilla. Top

1:26:17

five movie that I did not – I

1:26:20

don't even know if I knew it was coming out towards the

1:26:22

beginning of the year. I

1:26:24

don't usually watch a ton of foreign

1:26:26

language movies even if they involve Godzilla.

1:26:28

So for that to be a movie

1:26:31

that I love so much and for it –

1:26:33

and on top of that being just again

1:26:36

the content of a Godzilla movie

1:26:39

is – was quite a surprise and

1:26:41

a lovely one at that. And my

1:26:43

MVP of the year, I'm just going

1:26:45

law of averages here. This

1:26:48

is a person that was in multiple

1:26:50

of my top ten movies. So

1:26:53

that was the criteria I went

1:26:55

on. So my MVP

1:26:57

is Matt Damon. The

1:27:00

guy is killing it. What can I say? The

1:27:02

guy is still at the top of his game. He was in air and Oppenheimer by the

1:27:04

way. He's

1:27:08

got a crime movie directed by

1:27:10

Affleck coming out soon too. They're

1:27:13

starting to film on. So

1:27:15

they both should be used. Own

1:27:18

the night too or whatever? No. What

1:27:20

was that one? He did? The

1:27:22

accountant too. The accountant too. And

1:27:25

now he meets the HR guy. Matt

1:27:28

Damon is the HR guy. And the accountant and

1:27:30

the HR guy start killing. My

1:27:33

MVP is – Rival. Yeah.

1:27:37

My MVP is just a combined – Barbie Heimer.

1:27:40

No, that's mine. The marketing department behind Barbie

1:27:42

Heimer. Yeah. There you go. It

1:27:46

paid for a lot of stuff. This is good. Which

1:27:48

is good. We need those. We need either

1:27:50

Tom Cruise or Barbie Heimer. It will be interesting to see what it is this summer.

1:27:53

It's going to be the thing that is the revenue

1:27:56

generator for all the Oscar movies. For

1:27:59

theaters to stay up to date. open. I don't know. We

1:28:02

shall find out. Hopefully

1:28:04

we'll find out. Hopefully there's something. That's for

1:28:06

sure. All right.

1:28:08

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1:28:10

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1:28:14

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1:28:17

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1:28:21

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