Lisa Congdon had no idea when she left her job at age 40 to become a fine artist, illustrator and now published writer, that her career would become as big as it has. The former elementary school teacher never went to art school and always thought of herself as “the least artistic person in the room”. Now, seven books later, Lisa divulges to Brooke and Paul why she thinks her fans connect with her, and chats about her new book, "A Glorious Freedom: Older Women Leading Extraordinary Lives”.

A video version of this podcast is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ9MC36vx3Y