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418: What Do You Do With An Empty Room

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2:00

like

2:00

getting her day started and everything. And

2:03

so as soon as I walk out, she's like, okay, so today we've

2:05

got to take this kid to this thing and do this

2:07

and drop them off and I need you to go pick up the thing and

2:09

to ask, you know, and I'm just like, ah,

2:12

can't do it. I melt down. But

2:15

anyway, what

2:16

do you guys know to?

2:18

Go Dave. Well, I'm

2:21

finishing up some bar stools right now

2:23

for the new house. It's the very first project in

2:26

the rental. And

2:29

they look pretty, pretty

2:31

good. I even did a little bit of cushion making

2:34

without doing any research. I

2:37

bob-clagged the cushion making.

2:39

Oh cool. I'm

2:42

not sure that I like that. Because

2:45

that can mean, oh, I

2:47

bobbed it. Well,

2:50

you talk about like diving into something

2:52

without doing any research. So you can learn

2:54

the ins and outs of something.

2:57

And I felt like I had

3:00

the basic. And

3:02

I also felt like I had

3:05

a deadline.

3:06

And so let's

3:08

just dive into it. And

3:11

if I didn't like it, if it didn't come out fine,

3:13

I could redo it if I wanted to. Although

3:15

I will say foam

3:18

and padding is just stupidly

3:21

expensive. It really is. Maybe

3:23

I'm going to the wrong source. Because I'm going

3:26

to Joanne Fabrics or Michaels.

3:28

Joanne is a little expensive. Maybe go to like a furniture

3:31

store and buy a cushion you like if you happen to

3:33

buy one. Or bigger than what you need. Yeah.

3:35

I don't know if it's possible. Go to like Bed, Bath, and

3:37

Beyond. Maybe that's a crazy idea. But you might end up

3:39

spending more money. But salvage something

3:42

that already is. Except Bed, Bath, and Beyond just closed. Yeah,

3:45

they're gone. Got to go to Beyond. What

3:47

was

3:47

your kind of process for

3:50

sewing something like that without any experience?

3:53

No sewing, construction. So

3:56

I made the bar stools. And originally,

3:59

the bar stools were going to be I was gonna have this curvy

4:02

bent lamination top and I never liked

4:05

any of the designs and so

4:08

I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna make it flat and then I'll

4:10

make a cushion for it and The

4:14

so I just took a piece of plywood quarter-inch

4:16

plywood cut it to the shape that I needed

4:19

got some One inch it's

4:21

called new foam. I don't know if that's a brand name or

4:23

a style of foam To

4:25

the size of the plywood took some cotton

4:28

batting wrapped it around stapled

4:30

it underneath and then took the Fabric

4:33

or the cloth that I'm using wrap that

4:35

around and stapled it underneath they

4:38

have corners were rounded on

4:40

the on the edges of the of the plywood and

4:42

so when you

4:44

Stretch it it

4:45

wants to fold up So I'm like cutting

4:47

off excess and I tried to make it as thin

4:49

as possible while still giving it a little bit of cushion

4:52

So the the foam was like an inch thick

4:54

so

4:55

And it came out pretty okay.

4:58

I I would say I'm 96% happy the corners

5:01

I think could look a little bit better and then when

5:03

you're stretching If you don't stretch

5:06

evenly along the edges you get a little

5:08

bit of waviness and it's not a perfect

5:11

Radius going going around

5:13

the that would help I mean if you had a stitch

5:16

seam on there that would pull more even you

5:18

said you're putting staples staples

5:20

Yeah, yeah, so when there's a wherever it's grabbing

5:23

is where it's holding and you think in between it's pulling

5:25

If you had an even stitch all the way across

5:28

wouldn't

5:29

Keep it from doing that that might

5:31

that probably I guess

5:34

I don't have a sewing machine I that's something

5:36

that is definitely on the list at You

5:39

actually recommended one a few weeks ago that I have

5:42

bookmarks somewhere The 303 is

5:44

really good one the 303 from Weaver. It's

5:47

about yeah, 18 hundred bucks But I also

5:49

say always go to

5:51

Facebook market and get a $300 juki

5:55

you what you want is an industrial machine. You don't want one of

5:57

those ones that come You know one one that comes

5:59

in a plastic box with a lid and a foot pedal.

6:03

They're okay in a pinch. You usually see them on sets

6:05

where people have to quickly fix stuff. But

6:07

a Juki is a big industrial machine

6:09

or if it's classified as an industrial

6:11

machine, Singer obviously makes a really good industrial

6:14

machine. Brothers is usually

6:16

good. You want a big cast iron head

6:18

with a table. You don't necessarily

6:21

want one of those things that clip shut

6:23

inside its own suitcase. Those are usually too underpowered.

6:27

The bigger ones can sew through two

6:29

or three ounce leather, maybe vinyl, couple

6:31

layers of material. You always know

6:34

when you sew a machine will bind

6:36

up when you sew two pieces together,

6:38

then fold it one time and try and sew four pieces

6:41

together and then it binds up. The machine

6:43

usually is underpowered. That's why you would need,

6:46

like I said, something that's classified as an industrial

6:48

machine. And you have

6:50

the 303 or you just recommend the 303? I

6:53

have it. I use it all the time. It's a

6:55

amazing mid-level machine. Sometimes

6:57

those smaller machines that are either in a box or

7:00

even a smaller capacity

7:02

Juki or an industrial machine is really only for

7:05

sewing fabric that you would find

7:07

in clothes, like T-shirt material

7:09

or curtains or bedding. You

7:13

want a bigger machine that can handle, like I said, a little

7:15

bit of leather, some vinyl, four or five

7:17

layers of canvas, something like that. And so a bigger

7:20

Juki. And you could find them online all the time

7:22

on Facebook market for hundreds of dollars as

7:24

opposed to the 303,

7:26

which is about, like I said, about $1,600, $1,800. It's

7:29

an amazing machine if you can lay out the money. It is

7:31

unbelievable. And it has a walking foot, which

7:33

is also really important. The top foot pulls

7:36

with the bottom. This will go

7:38

to my recommendation by the end of the show.

7:40

I have a really good recommendation, which I said

7:42

years ago, but now I'm doing a deep dive on this guy.

7:45

He's amazing. But there's

7:47

an episode he talks about the invention of the sewing

7:49

machine, but we'll get there later. Oh,

7:51

well, maybe I'm going to pull a Jimmy DiResta and

7:54

say, Hey, Weaver, give me a call. Oh,

7:56

yeah. I would tell you, you have a relationship with Tony.

7:59

I don't know.

8:00

I thought you did. They reached out to me a couple

8:02

of years ago to do a video and then

8:04

I replied and then that was the end of

8:06

that conversation for some reason. There

8:08

is a – I just looked on Facebook Marketplace.

8:10

We're live searching right now. There's

8:13

one in Toledo, Ohio for $750. Which

8:16

one is it, a Juki? A Juki. The

8:19

CDL8700. While

8:21

you have that up, just text me that link.

8:23

Okay. Yeah. There's usually lots to choose from.

8:25

You might find one that's even closer and cheaper or

8:27

whatever. But a Juki is

8:30

a great machine. So many students buy them and then

8:32

decide not to go into that career and then they're always available.

8:35

More often than not, you'll have factories that have overstock.

8:39

So you have a factory that had a staff of 30 people

8:41

and now they only need 20 machines and so they're just selling 10

8:43

off. And they're always good machines that have been exercised

8:46

well.

8:46

That's usually how you find them. In fact – I

8:49

thought it was 12. This

8:51

breaks my heart. There was

8:54

a store – I think it was Lord and Taylor.

8:56

It went out of business here in New York. I think it was Lord and

8:58

Taylor. And Godmother

9:01

of Denham, my friend Christine, happened

9:03

to be at the right place at the right time and she got the call.

9:06

Someone said, hey, you use sewing

9:08

machines, right? Do you want – we've got to get rid of like 25

9:10

sewing machines. And she said every

9:12

one of the machines was like a $4,000 sewing

9:14

machine and they were going to get thrown away. The

9:17

landlord didn't care. They wanted everybody out. And this was

9:19

like a big giant industrial

9:22

mending center inside of a Lord and Taylor.

9:25

I think it was in midtown Manhattan. She

9:27

said she took three machines. That's all she could take. And

9:31

the rest of them, she said they probably just got put on the street

9:33

and thrown away. Most likely they could put on the street and

9:35

give them a couple of days and then they're usually gone. But

9:39

there's always situations like that where people have to get out. So

9:41

sewing machines, although you could really spend

9:43

a good penny and get

9:45

a really, really good one, more

9:48

often than not, they're the type of thing that is sitting in someone's

9:50

garage unused. So

9:53

anyway, that's my sewing machine seminar.

9:56

Thank you. Just

10:00

to go down this tangent a little bit further looking at these

10:02

machines like the one that I sent you David

10:04

It's you know, it's got a big table like a

10:07

Big metal table that's part of the thing

10:09

you get the whole thing at a time. Yeah, and

10:12

Well,

10:12

i'm looking at that thinking I would love to have a

10:14

sewing machine But I would not have a place to put

10:17

that that's my first thought which Yeah,

10:20

which got me thinking about something i've

10:22

been thinking about recently about resetting

10:24

my entire shop And i'm not sure that i'm

10:26

going to do this, but it might be an interesting

10:29

Get some feedback from you guys

10:32

At our office. We've got a couple of

10:34

lasers I've got the big five by ten

10:36

cnc and I don't use those things

10:38

because they're there And so i've

10:40

thought about bringing one of the lasers home the thunder

10:44

And maybe bring the cnc home, but to bring it home

10:46

I would have to cut it down probably because it's just that's

10:48

way too big to have in your basement and

10:52

In doing that and looking at the shop and trying to figure

10:54

out, you know, where would those things go? How can I reconfigure

10:57

it's like I can I can make it work I can

10:59

push things around and you know things go into

11:01

corners and I have to pull stuff out when I use it But then

11:04

that got me thinking about like i've

11:06

been in this shop longer

11:09

than I was in my last shop and

11:12

So it's been enough time that i've accumulated

11:15

a lot of new tools. My interests have changed

11:17

a lot I still have things that i've used

11:19

but not that often I've built

11:21

furniture for tools that just is

11:23

still there, but I don't necessarily you know

11:27

And so it got me looking at the entire space,

11:29

which is a good sized space and thinking what if I

11:31

just started over? what if I legitimately

11:34

went from one side to the other and Stickers

11:37

on stuff like keep sell keep

11:40

sell keep sell just go through the whole thing Not

11:43

necessarily to minimize but to optimize

11:45

but to you know to make it more Flexible

11:49

and maybe less of a wood shop and more of just

11:51

a shop shop Different

11:54

things. Maybe I split it into a clean room.

11:56

Maybe I don't know like I just started thinking

11:58

about that Have you all ever considered? doing anything

12:00

like and a Jimmy would just like get another building so

12:02

it never happened.

12:05

Have you ever considered that just like resetting

12:08

completely? Not to that extreme

12:11

no. I have but it's just

12:13

too daunting of a test to think it through.

12:17

I'm redoing some pieces of shop furniture

12:19

just because after a couple of years

12:21

like you realize oh this could be a little bit

12:23

more efficient this bottom needs to be open so

12:25

I can hide stuff and pull stuff in

12:27

and out and this is where I

12:29

need to draw this is where I need a cabinet. So

12:32

I've slowly redone some of that

12:35

but as far

12:37

as my shop is it's

12:38

pretty darn efficient I

12:41

would say and the tools are

12:43

for the most part besides a couple

12:45

of them are where they need to be

12:47

and it works for me

12:49

so I have no desire of doing a complete

12:51

reset and until someday

12:54

we can actually

12:57

expand the shop

12:58

and I think I would do the exact same setup

13:00

I would just spread things out a little bit more

13:03

so I could get a full sheet of plywood

13:05

onto the table. Right now that plywood hits

13:08

the back the tools on the back wall

13:10

which are a bunch of Sanders.

13:12

Yeah I've I think

13:14

I've just slowly optimized over the last 10 years.

13:17

Well and when you laid out

13:19

your shop in the first place you spent a lot of

13:21

time. Yeah it was and it wasn't

13:23

haphazard it was yeah.

13:26

Yeah

13:27

I had and I kind of nerd out

13:29

about this stuff where I draw

13:31

everything up in Illustrator a top-down

13:33

view I printed out and then I cut

13:35

everything out a paper and

13:39

play with arrangements and see

13:41

what is what is gonna work.

13:44

I'm doing that for our basement right now because

13:47

I'm thinking about taking this room on the other side

13:49

of my office that's like just a basement

13:51

room and it's been a bunch of different things

13:53

so far since we've lived here but it needs to be

13:55

a big just hangout room

13:58

for my kids they're getting older they need more. More

14:00

space they need to have friends over and stuff and

14:02

so I'm doing that right now Infusion

14:05

where I kind of just drew the floor plan and I'm drawing

14:07

a few pieces I thought about doing the same thing for the

14:09

shop But when I look

14:11

at the number of things I would have

14:13

to draw for the job, it's like nope. Yeah,

14:15

it's not even worthwhile So just

14:18

kind of kind of eyeball it I think but Sounds

14:21

like you got a set of things If

14:23

you if you were not if your shop

14:25

is efficient, but maybe not as big

14:27

or is like You know you'd have as many

14:30

opportunities. What would you do with a

14:32

sewing machine like this if you were to get one? Where

14:34

would you put it?

14:36

Put it on wheels And it

14:39

becomes one of those things that has everything piled

14:41

on it until you need it.

14:42

I know because I have like eight of them Wait,

14:46

but it's also something that could live inside It

14:48

didn't necessarily need to be in your shop because

14:50

it

14:51

I mean I assume you would want to protect a machine

14:53

like that from well,

14:55

you just So this does

14:57

build up on them, and I usually just throw a cloak over them

14:59

with any kind of drape it

15:01

is

15:03

They're heavy, so if you They're

15:05

difficult to move around these have rubber feet, and they're

15:08

very heavy so I often put

15:10

them on wheels I have my two

15:12

my two weavers Which is the 205

15:14

which is for sewing through like one inch thick of a leather

15:17

hide It's a giant strong engine

15:19

dick it'll go through one and stick of

15:21

leather hide yet It's it's unbelievable machine do

15:23

cows have skin that thick well if

15:25

you do several layers like on a well for

15:28

instance here Let me show you this and have this sitting on my table.

15:30

This is a knife sheet That's

15:32

a mean cow you can't so look at this

15:35

thickness. Oh my goodness. That's about that's

15:37

about a half inch It's three layers of 10 ounce and

15:40

that's just sewn right on the machine That's

15:42

right through pop pop pop pop it looks like it's

15:44

hand stitched at least the top stitch

15:46

looks hand stitched the bottom doesn't look as hand stitched,

15:49

but these are really This

15:53

is a type of machine. It's extremely

15:55

useful in a minute. I'll grab a wallet

15:57

that I made

15:59

So I have this

15:59

That machine which is very heavy to move around, it's got hard

16:02

rubber feet that grab the ground, it's like Velcro

16:04

to the ground, and same with the 303. But

16:06

I do have a couple of Jukies in the bigger shop

16:09

that I have on wheels that I move around. And

16:11

occasionally I do

16:13

use those, but now I'm addicted to the two

16:15

Weaver machines I have because I'm just so used to them now.

16:18

They both have walking foots, which is very convenient

16:20

to have for any machine. And

16:24

I've always put them on dollies. So what I'll

16:26

do is I'll buy a dolly from Harbor

16:29

Freight. I cut it in half and then I

16:31

extend it. So it's just as long left

16:34

to right in the Y direction, because

16:36

that would be the Y axis, and that's the

16:38

X axis. In the X axis, I make it

16:40

longer by just cutting it right

16:42

in half and then using the tabs on each side to screw

16:44

to a two by four. And then I make my pop

16:48

the sewing machine on that so you can move it around the shop.

16:51

So my brain capacity,

16:53

it's filled. It won't accept any more

16:56

information. And there

16:58

are certain tools that I have to watch

17:01

a video or read instruction,

17:03

let's mostly watch a video, to relearn

17:05

how to do every single time. And one

17:07

of them is my box joint making jig,

17:10

the ink row one. It just doesn't make sense

17:12

to me when I pull it out. I have to, I have to, yeah. I

17:15

feel like that. Get a little tiny piece of wood, get a little tiny

17:18

piece of wood and crazy though. Yeah, you

17:20

can make a box joint jig much faster

17:21

than you can watch a video. I made one on my

17:23

cross cut side. It took me eight seconds. Yeah. No

17:26

adjustment, work perfect. It's actually that,

17:29

the video on making your own is one of my most popular

17:31

videos on my channel. So when

17:33

I look at these sewing machines, you

17:36

have

17:37

parts, Bobbin, is that a name of one

17:39

of the things? Yeah. You have

17:43

thread coming from multiple angles. It looks

17:45

like I would have to relearn how to use it every

17:47

single time. No,

17:50

well, use it enough times

17:52

in the beginning and then you start to figure it out.

17:54

That's the problem. I would use it and

17:56

then I wouldn't use it again for six months. No,

17:59

it's not that bad. It's not that bad. In fact,

18:01

you do have to

18:03

pay close attention. A friend of mine

18:05

the other day said I'm having so much trouble with

18:08

my sewing machine. And I happen to be in the town

18:10

where she lives, so I stopped over. I said, well,

18:12

I'll come by tonight. I'm going to be there. So I went over

18:14

and I looked and she said, this machine doesn't

18:16

work. I can't believe it's been driving me

18:18

crazy. And it's one of those little machines that gets closed

18:20

up in a plastic box, which are very

18:23

dainty and they're really not

18:25

great. I love those type machines. Anyway,

18:27

she had it threaded wrong. I was like, the thread goes

18:29

through here. It goes through here. It goes around the

18:31

tensioner. It goes through the tensioning

18:34

arm, the arm that goes up and down like this. And

18:37

she just had it threaded wrong.

18:40

So most often, if you're having problems with a sewing machine,

18:42

it's most likely because you have it

18:44

threaded wrong.

18:45

It just kept balling. The machines, once

18:47

they're threaded correctly, they're almost infallible. But

18:50

if they're not threaded correctly, it'll

18:53

make you never want to touch a sewing machine again. And

18:55

usually, since we have all Google,

18:58

you could just Google the configuration

19:00

of the way it gets threaded. So

19:04

it's easy.

19:05

I did run into that on

19:08

my Weaver crank machine. I

19:10

did run into that one time where it

19:13

ran out of thread or something happened and I had to like

19:15

rethread it. And I did it wrong

19:18

and it just did not work. And then I went back

19:20

and watched the second video and took everything

19:22

off and did everything again. And that worked great, but

19:25

it made me scared for the next time it

19:27

runs out of thread or whatever the

19:29

situation was. I don't remember now. I just, man,

19:31

I don't want to have to like redo this

19:34

every time.

19:36

Or you make a video about it. You

19:38

post it on your own channel and then... I have

19:40

done that so many times. When

19:42

I go to make a pen on the lathe, I have to

19:44

watch my own video on how to make a pen on the lathe.

19:50

I forget what it was. Something that I had made in the

19:52

past.

19:54

And I was thinking about doing it again and I was like, I don't even know

19:56

where to begin. I was like, well, let me just go look

19:58

at my own video. I

20:01

forgot what it was, but it was just an impulse I had. I

20:03

was like, I want to make one of those. I'm like, oh, wait, you already did

20:05

one of those. How did you do it? I can't remember.

20:07

The title of one of our episodes from

20:09

a couple weeks ago just hits home so

20:12

hard. And it's something along the lines of every

20:14

video is a career.

20:17

Oh, yeah. That's

20:19

what Aaron would always say to me. He said, every one of your videos is

20:21

somebody's whole career. That's what Aaron used to say

20:23

to me. Don't

20:27

be afraid to get a sewing machine. It really will change your

20:29

life. And that being said,

20:32

what am I up to? I've been making

20:34

these leather bags, and I just did a bunch of stories last

20:36

night on these leather bags that I'm making. And I've sold a

20:38

few of them already, and I would hopefully sell more. Sewing

20:43

is difficult, and I'm OK

20:45

at it. I'm not perfect, but I'm pretty OK

20:47

at it. And when a lot of people

20:50

see the bags they make, they're like, I want one. I want one.

20:52

I want one. And I'm just talking about design

20:54

last week's episode. Set

20:57

up some criteria for myself. I had to be able to

20:59

make a bag that was repeatable. I

21:01

had to go together strongly, and I had to eliminate

21:04

stitches. And years before, I came up

21:06

with this link and lock system where the

21:08

tab plugs into another hole

21:10

so the leather comes up. It's kind of like a Chinese food

21:12

box where it comes up and locks to itself

21:15

on the side.

21:16

And I

21:18

came up with what I believe is a successful design

21:20

for that. I eliminated sewing because

21:22

I want them to always look the same and because

21:25

I'm just not that good at sewing. Not

21:27

to mention, this leather is eight 10-ounce

21:29

leather. It's super strong leather, and it would be difficult

21:31

to sew it right every single time. Even

21:34

in the configuration that I made it, I

21:37

wouldn't even know how to sew it. So I had to make it the

21:39

way I made it where it's tabbed

21:41

and slotted together with a couple of rivets to

21:43

keep it together forever. And

21:47

with all my sewing experience, I was like, I

21:49

want to make a production bag that has no sewing

21:51

in it whatsoever because

21:53

that was the hang up for me to

21:56

try and do something cleanly and

21:58

perfectly the same every time. I knew

22:00

the sewing would be the hindrance. I can make a one-off

22:03

and this week I'm gonna make a leather roll

22:05

bag or a saddle bag for

22:08

a bicycle that clips underneath the bicycle seat It's

22:10

gonna be a Weaver leather video and There'll

22:13

be a little bit of sewing in that but not

22:15

a lot the sewing will really be more Visual

22:18

accents as opposed to actual

22:20

doing sewing job. It's I'm gonna do it more

22:23

just because it looks good around the edges So

22:25

I could eliminate it entirely which I might But

22:28

sewing when it comes to the zipper bags that I

22:30

made is obviously essential you couldn't

22:33

make those without sewing you have to sew

22:35

a zipper to the end of a fabric and When

22:38

it comes to concealing with the ends

22:40

of the stitch goes and how to hide it That's that's

22:42

always been my hang-up and that's primarily

22:45

because I never worked in a factory

22:47

situation I'll give you a situation

22:50

where Taylor always handmade

22:52

stuff always always still handmade stuff Taylor

22:55

my ex and This

22:57

year she got a job at a small factory

22:59

making custom-made clothes It's

23:02

the first time she had to make stuff for somebody else and

23:04

her sewing skills greatly improved

23:06

because there was no getting out of it You had to figure

23:09

out you had to look at the other sewer as the

23:11

supervisor. How do I close this? What's the

23:13

best way and she said her sewing skills have

23:15

improved 15 times because

23:18

working in a situation with It's like

23:20

being a musician and just always playing alone when

23:22

you play with other musicians You get better because you pick up

23:24

tips and tricks and sewing is the same

23:26

thing if you saw alone constantly and

23:28

you try and Figure out things online

23:31

and pictures and stuff You can only probably

23:33

get so far until you actually sit with a really experienced

23:36

somebody who's worked in a factory

23:38

situation Or worked for a tailor and was

23:40

was given and handed down skills

23:44

So if you really get interested in sewing it's

23:46

really important to go work with somebody That's

23:49

not gonna let you get away with I Always

23:52

consider the sewing jobs I do Prototypes

23:56

obviously they work well for whatever if it's a one-off,

23:58

but if I ever had to do them over and over again. Like

24:01

my zipper bag, the one that's

24:03

made out of fabric with a liner, the

24:05

liner isn't resolved. It's funny because Taylor

24:07

Sartan's right away, she's like, this doesn't do this. I'm

24:10

making one, I'm not making ten. But

24:13

there's a lot of unresolved issues inside where the

24:15

open, but for me that's how I

24:17

can do it. I never work with somebody that can teach

24:19

me how to make a liner that conceals all the

24:21

construction. When

24:24

somebody points out a mistake on one of my projects,

24:26

I'll just say, oh, this is a prototype.

24:29

Of course. That's what you say. I'm experimenting. What

24:32

do you do? What you were

24:34

saying about getting that hands

24:37

on or next to somebody experience,

24:39

I think that's the case with anything, honestly.

24:41

I was talking to Bernie Dolo last

24:44

weekend when I was at the LBX,

24:47

the light burn thing. We were talking about

24:50

welding. He's taken welding classes and he's taken

24:53

a bunch of machining classes and all this type of stuff. He

24:55

was just telling me about the difference in

24:58

the figuring

25:00

it out knowledge versus the instruction

25:03

knowledge and the sitting next to somebody

25:05

knowledge and how that's

25:07

affected him and what he's learned from

25:09

it and stuff and offered to come down and spend

25:12

a day with me on the

25:16

Bridgeport and on the South Bend and just

25:19

walk me through it, which is great because

25:22

those things are like without hands

25:24

on experience, I'm really shooting in the dark

25:26

because any project is not like a standard

25:29

project

25:30

when it comes to machining. Everyone

25:33

is some unique setup. Yeah.

25:35

That's why machinists love machining because everything's

25:38

like a puzzle to solve and they love

25:40

showing it off to other machines. I mean that in

25:42

a loving way. I love seeing machinists show off their skills

25:45

and tricks that they've thought of and the inventive

25:47

ways they solve problems. Sewing

25:50

is similar in that way where it's like how do you hide this

25:52

and how do you hide that? By the way, I

25:54

talked about her in the past. Gothic Bloys

25:56

is a woman who in 19... In 1999,

26:01

we rented the second floor of a two-story

26:04

shop in the city. We rented the second-story

26:06

office to her. She needed a

26:08

place to sew. We met through friends. And she makes clothes

26:11

for rock and roll stars. When

26:14

you see Britney Spears in the

26:16

early aughts walking around in tight leathery

26:18

clothes, Pagatha made those clothes in

26:20

my shop. And when

26:23

you see Rob

26:25

Halford walking around in this big long hell razor

26:28

coat, she made that coat. I mean, she

26:30

was unbelievable. She was in LA now.

26:33

She's an unbelievable leather

26:36

worker. She makes the most insane clothes

26:38

for rock stars. She's the one who got me

26:40

sewing. She's the one who sat with me

26:42

and showed me tricks and tips to get me started.

26:45

And I had a sewing machine sit in the shop. I never touched it.

26:47

I just did a couple of straight stitches. She was the one who showed me

26:49

how to make a pattern. And I'm not great

26:52

at it, but she got me really started and got

26:54

me looking at that machine

26:56

where I could see it as a potential for making

26:58

projects as opposed to something that intimidates me.

27:01

She got me past that hump, which is obviously the

27:03

hump we all need to get over no matter what the machine

27:05

is, whether it's a CNC machine or laser

27:08

cutter or whatever. So

27:13

what else am I doing? I did the bags this

27:15

week, which are up for sale. They're on my Instagram

27:18

page mostly. And we

27:21

made some milestones on the graveyard house. Me and

27:23

Mike were able to put in half of the sill plate,

27:25

which is underneath that big suspended

27:28

open roof, which you see on my stories from time to

27:30

time. And maybe

27:33

after today's podcast, we'll put the next three pieces

27:35

in, which will be the full complete circumference. And

27:37

then I could start putting the walls up, which are

27:39

going to support. And in the meantime,

27:42

the sill plate is suspended in space by

27:44

a couple of stilts. And my stone

27:46

mason is filling up the under gap with

27:49

stacked stone. So we're

27:52

putting it back the way it was, but better.

27:55

And that's going to probably be in a new video,

27:57

probably in a couple of weeks.

27:59

I started editing up my episode five

28:02

last night. Five or six,

28:04

I can't remember.

28:07

Cool, the house video's doing well?

28:09

Nothing's doing well, but I don't care anymore.

28:14

Cool, cool. I made a bronze

28:16

door knocker, it's got 60,000 views. It's

28:18

just like, whatever. Now I'm just

28:21

playing to my mom and my family, that's it. And

28:25

those 60,000 people, you know, those close friends of mine. I'm

28:28

a big family if you have a 60,000 people in your family. No,

28:32

everything hits 100,000 and then I occasionally

28:35

hear like the sounds of breaks screeching and like

28:37

the distance. I'm like, what is that? Oh, that was my video,

28:39

it just stopped getting views.

28:41

Just hit a wall

28:43

and it's now dead. Yeah.

28:46

Well, let's see, for me, I've

28:48

been working on a new

28:54

Lego sorter. So

28:57

a while back, I made a Lego

28:59

sorter that was like a funnel

29:01

kind of thing, like a tower with different plates

29:04

in it with different size holes in it and you pour them in the top

29:06

and they would filter through and then,

29:08

you know, kind of land on a different

29:10

level that where they would stop filtering and then you could

29:13

dump them. And it actually worked really well. But

29:17

it was small, it was only about this big

29:19

around. So it couldn't hold a whole lot of

29:22

bricks and I also made it to mount

29:24

on the side of my kids Lego

29:26

table that I built for them. So you could scoop them off

29:28

the edge of the table into this thing and they would

29:30

sift down and go. And

29:33

it worked pretty well, but I was wanting something that

29:35

would be like on the

29:37

table, a tabletop movable kind

29:39

of version, something that could hold more bricks

29:41

and have just a more repeatable

29:44

design because I was thinking like this is something I

29:46

think other people could use. Pete Squared made

29:48

a really good

29:49

sorter

29:50

several years ago, I think now. Did

29:53

the stack square boxes? Yeah,

29:55

these filter boxes that are stacked

29:57

up on wheels or on casters.

30:00

So you pour a bunch of stuff in the top and then

30:02

you just like shake it around on a table or on the floor

30:04

or whatever. I mean, it's pretty big. So we use that

30:06

on the floor and it filters down

30:08

into these trays and then you you unstack

30:10

the trays and dump them. It's a really cool idea.

30:14

I ran across a video. What got me thinking about this

30:16

is I ran across a video of some

30:19

Lego person who like a content

30:21

creator who's like a Lego person and they bought

30:24

one of his sorters a couple

30:26

of years ago. And we're

30:28

kind of doing an unboxing and a you

30:30

know showing it off to their Lego people and

30:33

I'm like, oh, that's pretty wild. I hadn't

30:35

seen it from the Lego YouTube

30:37

side. I'd seen it from the woodworker YouTube

30:41

side or Instagram or wherever it was. And

30:44

it was really funny just seeing something

30:46

from kind of our community in

30:49

another community being used as a tool

30:51

rather than as the

30:53

product.

30:54

You know, like we it was I

30:57

don't know. But it got me thinking about, oh,

30:59

like I've been wanting to do my version of that

31:01

thing again. And so I started doing that. And

31:03

it's this interesting combination of

31:08

3D printing and laser work. And

31:10

so it's not a whole lot of building, but it was

31:12

a whole lot of problem solving getting

31:15

the thing to fit together. And basically,

31:18

it's a bin that's on a stand.

31:21

Excuse me. It's on a stand that sits

31:24

on a table. And so you dump

31:26

stuff in the top and then

31:28

you slide in a filter on the

31:30

top and you spin it over

31:33

and it's like a rotisserie. So you can spin it

31:35

over and it filters everything out down

31:37

into a little tray. Then

31:40

you flip it back up, pull out the filter,

31:42

put it in a different size filter. Like a bingo roll? Yeah,

31:44

kind of. Yeah. But one side of

31:46

it has a filter hole like panel

31:49

in it. And so that panel is swappable.

31:52

So you filter it out, then you go

31:54

to a smaller filter or actually a bigger filter,

31:56

then you do it again. And so

31:58

getting all of the pieces together. to fit together but

32:01

then have enough tolerance for these like pieces

32:04

of acrylic to slide through but not slide

32:06

too much because you want them to be tight. There's

32:09

a lot of problem solving that I'm not sure how much of it's actually

32:11

gonna make it into the video but it was actually

32:13

a lot of fun to figure out how to make. So

32:17

that's coming out this weekend and you know, it's

32:20

one of those that I was really excited about. I

32:22

had a great time doing but probably not gonna do

32:24

super well but you never know. What about

32:26

a color sorter? Color

32:29

sorter, that's a whole like yeah, that's

32:32

a Raspberry Pi machine learning imaging

32:36

thing. Yeah, that's like

32:40

Shane from Stuff Made Here should make

32:42

that, he would be good at that. I

32:44

used to work on websites for

32:46

a company that made the

32:48

camera eyes that factories

32:50

would use to kick out defective

32:53

products. Like they made cameras

32:56

for Ball,

32:57

Ball as in the canning company

33:00

and they make like Coke cans and Pepsi cans

33:02

and these camera eyes, they work

33:05

within a fraction of a second will just

33:07

see thousands of these aluminum

33:09

cans and just kick off

33:12

the bad ones off the belt.

33:14

It's fascinating how

33:17

fast they work. This

33:19

goes back to my recommendation, I'll tell

33:22

you in a minute.

33:23

Along those lines of

33:25

the color sorter thing though, there's actually

33:28

an app, maybe an official Lego app

33:30

I think that

33:32

you can lay out a bunch of bricks that you have on

33:34

a flat surface and then you take a picture of it and

33:37

it will figure out what you have

33:39

and then create or find

33:43

simple models and give you instructions

33:45

that you, so like you could build this with the bricks that

33:47

you have. That's incredible. Isn't

33:49

that wild? Yeah and it's

33:52

just made for kids so you can like just take a picture

33:54

with your tablet. Whoa, that's

33:57

mind blown. So

34:02

that, that like, sorting

34:04

or the finding I guess part of that sorting

34:07

mechanism. It's

34:09

there. It's already done. Next would be,

34:11

you know, some sort of pick and place kind of

34:14

robot that could just go like, put

34:16

it all the places it needed to be. That's

34:19

not my specialty. So I'm not going to do that. Wow.

34:22

I'm still making a sorter kind

34:24

of brute force, you know, manual

34:27

sorter. And it was

34:29

a fun thing. So we'll see how it turns out. And

34:32

then also, last

34:35

weekend maybe, yeah, Sunday, I went

34:37

out to the farm for

34:40

the first time in I don't even know how

34:42

long and spent like

34:44

three hours Sunday afternoon just

34:47

working on the gear with no

34:49

camera, with no headphones in.

34:52

I opened the door and let fall just blow

34:54

into the barn and it was so

34:57

beautiful. It was perfect.

34:59

It was a couple hours of

35:02

body filler and sanding and body

35:04

filler and sanding.

35:06

And then, you know, it was man, it was so

35:08

good. But the thing that was really interesting

35:10

about that other than just it being

35:12

nice was

35:15

that I put in like maybe

35:17

three hours. It couldn't have been more than that. But

35:20

when I stood back from and I was working on, you know,

35:22

kind of like up close right

35:24

here, a lot of like

35:27

looking up close at the sanding

35:29

to see how well it was sanded and stuff.

35:32

And then at the end of the three hours, I backed up and

35:34

I had made visible,

35:37

measurable progress around this

35:39

entire car. It was like, you know, I mean, the section was

35:41

maybe this big. And then a couple

35:43

of little sections, but I stood back and was like,

35:46

Oh, like, those things are done.

35:48

They're ready for primer like done, done, done. And

35:51

it made me think like this actually

35:54

might be possible. Like the bodywork,

35:57

maybe something that I can eventually. Three

36:00

years in, you're like, maybe I could actually

36:02

do this. Yeah, because I think,

36:04

you know, there's a certain level of just

36:06

like, I mean, this is probably never going to actually

36:09

get finished, but I'm going to keep working on it just to make

36:11

a little progress. But I,

36:13

you know, Bob, see the ending. Can I

36:15

have a couple of minutes? Finish cards are out. I

36:18

can see it. But you know, like you kind

36:20

of forget like that when you have all

36:22

of that work on something, you kind of forget that

36:24

the end goal is something that you're actually trying to

36:26

get to. It's not just the next step. Yeah,

36:28

there's too much fog in him. Yeah.

36:32

And so seeing a couple of

36:34

little things that at the beginning

36:36

of the day were messed up.

36:39

And at the end of the day, they were fixed. Like,

36:41

Oh,

36:42

cool. Okay. And it got me really

36:44

motivated to, you know, if I spent maybe

36:47

five or six more of those days at three

36:49

or four hours at a time, the body work

36:51

could be done like this thing could be ready for paint.

36:54

And that's, that's pretty wild to

36:56

think that that's a possibility. So

36:59

anyway,

37:00

yeah, I'm going to try to

37:02

schedule some of those days, you know, so

37:04

that I can just keep keep chewing

37:08

at it a little bit.

37:09

How do you eat an elephant?

37:10

So it's funny you said that because

37:13

as I was, as I

37:15

was doing that work, and I stood back and

37:17

I looked at it, I was like, how do I make a video

37:20

about eating this about

37:22

this feeling of little

37:25

bits of work? Because I mean, our videos,

37:27

they have to be, they have to

37:29

be a story, they have to be, here's the setup,

37:32

here's the payoff, they have to be something that draws

37:34

people in and in some way. So

37:37

like, how do you make a video about doing

37:39

a little bit of work a bunch of times?

37:42

And that was what came to mind is how do

37:44

you eat an elephant? So I was like, okay, if

37:46

I start with that idea, how do you eat

37:49

an elephant as the video? How do I make

37:51

a video about that with the car

37:53

as the example? And so for three days since

37:55

then, it's really funny that you said that

37:57

because that has been in my head going. How

38:00

do I turn that phrase into a video?

38:02

And how do I make it not just like a thing you say at the beginning

38:04

and a thing you say at the end, but how do I actually

38:07

stretch that into a story and do the

38:10

work at the same time? I, if

38:12

I may interrupt just for a second, I just went through

38:14

that a few days ago.

38:16

I wanted to make a tour of the new

38:19

house so I can kind

38:21

of kick off the start of this

38:24

journey. And I was like, I can't

38:26

just do a walk in the door, go

38:28

through a tour. It has to be a story.

38:30

And so I spent a good, a day

38:33

plus, just figuring out how to turn

38:36

it in the story. Have like a middle or

38:39

beginning, you start with the beginning, you always start with

38:41

the beginning, middle of the middle. And

38:43

so the tour is only one part of it. Then there's

38:45

the why, and then there's the how. And

38:50

I really put a lot of

38:52

thought into what's going to be

38:55

probably just a 10 minute video. But

38:58

it was just like, I'm scripting. I don't

39:00

normally script, not word for word, but

39:02

I'm scripting of how I'm going to approach this.

39:05

And

39:06

it's just,

39:08

it's one of those things. Like maybe if this

39:10

works out, if I can figure out the

39:12

good packaging for it, maybe I need to

39:14

kind of script

39:16

my videos a little bit more. I don't know, but

39:19

it was a lot of work.

39:21

Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting because I

39:23

mean, we've gone back and forth on different amounts

39:25

of that pre-production

39:28

stuff over the years. Like we've tried to really

39:30

figure everything out ahead of time. We've obviously

39:32

tried to not figure out anything at a time and just

39:34

go for it. And there is some

39:37

floating place in between those that

39:39

is really productive, where you put in a lot

39:41

of work upfront and it makes the rest of it so

39:44

much easier. And you kind of know where you're headed and you

39:46

know what the edit is supposed to accomplish and

39:48

stuff like that. It's hard to

39:50

do that every time for me anyway. It's hard to

39:53

think through that every time. If

39:56

I am just talking

39:58

to the camera off the cuff, I feel... like

40:00

that's a little bit more real

40:02

but and then when I script or when I have an

40:04

outline, it doesn't feel as

40:07

real to me but the

40:10

information is more condensed and it's

40:12

concise and it's more valuable.

40:15

So it's I just have to learn

40:17

how to talk

40:19

to a camera that's that feels authentic

40:21

to me but it's still a little bit structured.

40:25

Yeah that yeah

40:28

that is something to get used to. 10 years later

40:30

and I figured it out. Oh

40:32

yeah I mean it's not like well it keeps changing.

40:34

Yeah. I mean that's part of it and

40:36

we keep changing and you know that's a bunch

40:39

of variables that we constantly have to juggle.

40:43

So speaking to the house, we

40:45

had an idea for kind of a topic

40:47

today because you have all of

40:49

this opportunity. So

40:52

what was the thing that you wanted to kind of

40:55

brainstorm about? This kind of goes back

40:57

to your talk about the shop as well

41:00

as what do you do with a blank slate. If

41:02

you so I have a I have a bedroom.

41:05

I have two bedrooms and I have a living room and

41:07

each one is just an open space. How

41:10

do you approach

41:12

designing for that space? Where

41:14

do you start? Have you

41:16

ever started with a blank slate because

41:18

a lot of times all

41:21

of us we have these homes that we

41:23

already live in. It's already occupied

41:25

by furniture and then we're just adding to

41:28

and taking away.

41:30

The only time I've started with

41:33

a blank slate is in my current shop

41:35

because it was like I had this

41:37

much stuff and I had this much

41:39

room. And

41:42

I got to decide how to spread a

41:44

small amount of relatively small amount of stuff into

41:46

a big space. And then that

41:48

empty space is filled up over the years. But that's not really

41:51

the same as like a or maybe

41:53

it is. I don't know. It's not really the same as a bedroom

41:56

or a

41:57

living room, you know, like a living space, I

41:59

guess. I mean

42:01

my approach to any of those things is

42:04

always gonna start with the functional you

42:08

know and then like the design and

42:10

the Aesthetic of the whole thing is gonna

42:12

be the last thing that I try to cram on top

42:14

of the functional thing just because of how I am

42:17

But I would immediately look at a space and

42:19

like alright make a list of what does it have to accomplish?

42:22

What are the? What are

42:24

the necessities? What are the things that it

42:26

needs to do and? What

42:29

pieces of furniture do I have that I have to put

42:31

somewhere and is there a way to make them? You know I

42:33

would do the constraint stuff first and

42:35

then add on top of that, but That's

42:38

just me.

42:39

I always get intimidated I did this room

42:41

over last year the whole room gutted

42:43

and we sheet rocked and insulated and painted

42:45

and It's still temporarily

42:50

Arranged because I just I

42:52

have such a hard time I got my desk and

42:54

everything I need to get like five stools around me so they

42:56

could have all this extra stuff around He's like the stool

42:59

right here. There's one right there. I get this

43:01

pull out drawers.

43:02

I'm horrible at it

43:04

I really am I need somebody in my life

43:06

that comes in and just organize this stuff I

43:08

have all my pictures that were hanging on my previous

43:10

arrangement in here all just leaning on the wall waiting for

43:12

me to hang them up

43:14

If somebody else organizes

43:16

something for you, that would be great.

43:18

Does it feel organized to you though? Yes

43:23

Yeah, well, I mean that's not a jab That's

43:26

a legitimate question because like if somebody else invited

43:29

stuff for me. I don't necessarily know where it is It

43:31

was a time in my life. I'm old. I'm much older

43:33

than you guys There

43:36

was a time in my life where I was very

43:39

very OCD about nobody touched

43:41

my stuff

43:42

And then over the last I don't

43:45

know maybe has to do with having assistance. I don't know

43:47

I've had Dave I used to have Keith

43:49

was before everybody knew me and

43:51

then Dave and that's

43:53

when everyone got to know me on YouTube and

43:55

then

43:57

Aaron Brett Rob

43:59

And Aaron

44:02

started taking over and I've talked about this before.

44:05

Aaron would, as he

44:07

got to know me and he became a little bit

44:09

more

44:12

free thinking without worrying about what I thought,

44:14

I'd come in and go, I hope you don't mind I rearranged this

44:16

whole wall. And I was just like, oh

44:19

my God, that looks amazing.

44:22

And then I'd like have at it. And

44:24

then I'd come into work and he'd

44:27

be like, I hope you don't mind. And it took Sunday and

44:29

I rearranged this whole corner of the shop. I think

44:31

it works much better.

44:32

Oh my God.

44:36

I think there's things that you will never think

44:38

of when somebody else does something

44:41

for you. I was never really

44:43

good at it. I didn't want anybody touching my stuff, but

44:45

not because I just,

44:46

it was really because it was so messy and I

44:48

knew where everything was because nothing

44:51

had a place. Like if I put my watch right here

44:53

beside my computer on pie, if I can

44:55

turn my camera, there's a pile of five

44:57

very expensive watches just sitting on top

44:59

of one another. Like

45:02

if anybody saw these watches, they would take them away

45:04

from me and be like, you don't deserve to always have watches.

45:11

And I just don't want anybody touching because I know that's where

45:13

I left them. They're fine there. Don't touch them

45:16

versus somebody coming in and going,

45:18

oh, you know what you need? This would be nice if they were in a drawer

45:21

with like a velvet lining. I'm like, oh, that's a great idea. Could

45:23

you make that for me? That would be awesome. So

45:25

I need somebody like that in my life. Somebody

45:27

that, I mean, Rob is good. Rob does

45:29

more industrial technical stuff. But

45:32

when it comes to just arranging things, I

45:35

don't,

45:37

I miss that.

45:38

That's all I'm saying.

45:41

I miss Aaron. But he

45:44

was the first person in my life that like took complete

45:46

charge without waiting

45:48

for me to be like, okay, let's organize

45:50

this shelf. He like just took them. He's like, you know what?

45:53

The way you had it was obviously just random. I

45:55

took time to put it in color order and size

45:57

order and chemical order, whatever.

46:01

He sorted through a box of bolts that I had and

46:03

then put them in every drawer. He's like, this just seems to

46:05

work better. I hope you don't mind. I'm

46:07

like, no, that's awesome. Like if you saw

46:09

my stories yesterday, I

46:12

bought the Milwaukee little snap lit box for

46:14

the Dremel tools that I recently bought. I bought the one

46:17

that I didn't like and then I bought a Milwaukee version

46:19

and I want to put them in a case. So I know that that case

46:21

has all my, I could just grab and go with that

46:24

and I can go to a job site if I needed

46:26

to or go to a different part of my

46:28

kingdom and fix something over there in

46:30

a different domain and

46:33

having the box with all the stuff in it. And

46:35

so I tried to get a little snap

46:38

box that has like,

46:39

I can put all the cutting heads in this one and

46:41

all the grinder heads in that one and all the sanding

46:43

discs in that one and nothing fit

46:45

together. And I just said, you know what?

46:47

I'll use these for cups for something else. And I just

46:49

dumped everything into the box through

46:51

the grinders in and closed the lid. I'm like, nothing's

46:53

gonna fall out of this box. Every cutting

46:56

head is in there mixed with every other cutting

46:58

head, but you know what? They're all in this box.

47:00

That's my organization. Can I, I

47:02

have a little gripe and it

47:05

drives me bonkers. Any

47:08

box, I have DeWalt ones. I think Milwaukee

47:11

makes a similar one. Any kind of box

47:13

that is meant to separate nuts and bolts

47:15

and washers and all of that. They

47:17

have the little dividers so you can make the spaces

47:19

that you want. Eventually, those

47:22

little dividers, they start to pull up and then

47:24

all the, they mix underneath. And

47:26

then even when you buy a full set of

47:29

machine screws with different sizes and everything,

47:31

they come in these little cases and those little

47:34

dividers, they pull up and they all get mixed together.

47:37

That's why I just mix them together when I get them. And

47:41

I know I could take a little bit of CA glue and just

47:43

lock them in place, but. Yeah,

47:46

but you have to take everything out to do that. I

47:49

will say this, I'm not, this isn't a commercial film

47:51

Milwaukee because everybody knows how much I load

47:53

all two companies. But Milwaukee

47:55

makes this pack out system where

47:58

if you do have a cup full of.

47:59

screws, it is completely in its own

48:02

cup, which fits into a tray. And then when

48:04

you close the lid, the lid actually

48:07

pops into the cup so you can flip

48:09

it in any direction, nothing gets mixed. In

48:11

fact, it's a little annoying because if your cups

48:14

are overfilled, the lid won't close. You always need to

48:16

leave a little bit of air space at the top of

48:19

any one of these cups. And so I've been really

48:21

kind of getting into that system. I actually enjoy it.

48:23

And that's why I thought it would be good to have one of these

48:25

little small snap lids and have at least one or two

48:28

boxes in there. But the cutting tools

48:30

don't fit in that box. So I was like, you know

48:32

what, let me take these cups out. I use them somewhere else in my

48:35

Milwaukee Packout system. And I'll just use

48:37

this whole entire empty case for

48:39

everything. You just inspired me to quickly

48:42

design maybe like a little two inch

48:44

by two inch

48:45

square cup rounded

48:48

edges so the nuts and bolts don't get to the side

48:51

and a little pole handle right in the middle

48:53

of it so I could pull it out and take it

48:55

to the front. Oh, that's a nice idea. Yeah. I

48:58

have my 3D printers just running all day

49:00

making those things.

49:01

Yeah, how about

49:04

if we talked about possibly

49:06

brainstorming this room up. Wouldn't

49:09

it be cool if you had inspired

49:11

by the Packout system or any type

49:14

of tool system where you organize stuff.

49:16

Imagine a whole room like that. Now,

49:19

I don't know what that means exactly, but the

49:21

bed or the day bed, whatever, looks just like it's

49:23

made out of plastic and it can be like modulated.

49:26

The pillows all fit together but they could fit somewhere else

49:28

too. I don't know, I'm just brainstorming

49:30

out. The table, the stools,

49:33

everything, you could put them in a corner of a room

49:35

and it'll be like all blocked together.

49:38

No empty airspace but you could pull them apart

49:41

and they could be individual

49:43

parts but you could push them all together and they could become

49:45

one thing. Like the stools and the seats

49:47

can all come together and become a bigger table. I

49:50

don't know. I've seen stuff like that where

49:53

you have –

49:54

that's why I love the apple creates,

49:59

the movie Apple creates. If you see those things

50:01

that they use on movies and TV shoots. The

50:03

apple boxes, not crates, apple boxes. I

50:06

love those because you can put four together and make a little

50:08

stage. You can put four together in the second

50:10

position and then it's a stage but it's higher, it's a little

50:12

smaller and I constantly

50:15

sit on them. So I'm always looking around the shop

50:17

to grab one to sit on. Like last night I welded something

50:20

and I was like, I can get the rolling chair with the

50:22

cushion. I'm like, I'd rather sit on the apple box.

50:24

It happens to be something nice about it where I could kind

50:26

of move around and it's not going to move. It's

50:29

not going to roll. But if you set

50:31

up a room with

50:33

modular furniture, I don't know. What does

50:35

that look like? What is the intent? Let's go back to the room. What

50:38

is, you have a bedroom. Let's take one of the

50:40

bedrooms. Is it just a

50:43

bedroom? Does there any requirement? No,

50:45

there is. Are there any things that have to be there?

50:48

There needs to be this cohesive feel

50:51

between all the pieces. When Jimmy talks about

50:53

modular furniture, one of the beautiful

50:56

things about modular furniture is they all

50:58

look like it belongs. They all are.

51:01

It's a set. It looks together. So

51:03

I am not just making a bed and

51:05

some nightstands. I am making

51:08

a set. Like

51:10

you would go to Williams-Sonoma and you would buy

51:13

a full set. And

51:17

so I'm trying to work like that. And even the

51:19

artwork on the wall and the

51:22

color of the walls, the paneling that we're going to choose,

51:25

I want there to be a feel for each

51:27

room. And this is not something I've done because everything

51:29

has been so individual. And

51:31

sometimes like, oh, well, there's the Picciuto

51:34

style, which is basically

51:36

Danish modern, mid-century modern stuff. But

51:40

each piece has always been individual. Now

51:42

it's like trying to create this flow.

51:45

And this is going to all tie into

51:47

my pick of the week.

51:49

So you're

51:51

talking about it that way makes me think

51:54

that maybe a good way to make those

51:56

things individual but cohesive is

51:58

just to start to... Dissect, you

52:02

know, maybe you have a table or something that you've already

52:04

made that you're like, this is the thing,

52:07

this is the aesthetic, this is the direction

52:09

I want all of those pieces to inherit. So

52:12

dissect that piece. I used

52:15

this kind of curve. All the curves

52:17

need to be a variation of this. I used

52:19

this thickness of tabletop. All of the

52:21

surfaces need to be this, you know, start to break

52:23

down some like requirements. Then when you go to design

52:26

a bedside table, it

52:28

doesn't have to stand alone or it

52:31

can stand alone, but you also have

52:33

a set of criteria that you're like, well, okay, I'm gonna design

52:35

this thing, but it's gonna have this thickness, it's gonna have this curve,

52:37

and it's gonna have this like whatever,

52:40

taper. And

52:42

so, you know, you could dissect something

52:44

that you like to build some criteria,

52:47

design criteria for other stuff. I haven't

52:49

actually thought, I've been collecting,

52:51

I've been into mood boards lately of just collecting

52:54

ideas. And I've

52:56

been doing that. And I've been like circling,

52:59

and I like the way this looks on this

53:01

particular piece. But I have not

53:04

set

53:05

a list of criteria, like

53:07

that thickness or that curve. And

53:10

that is definitely something I need to do for

53:12

sure. So when I model something

53:14

in Fusion, and

53:17

I know this is different, but there's a crossover.

53:19

When I think about, I'm gonna model this

53:22

bottle. This is a juice bottle

53:24

from a local place. So

53:26

if I'm gonna model this bottle, I start to

53:28

look at all of the things that I could turn into

53:31

parameters. The width of the bottle,

53:33

the radius on the bottom, how thick is the cap,

53:35

all of those detail things. And I write all of them

53:37

down, and with the measurement. And then before I

53:39

start actually drawing anything, I'll go in and fill out

53:41

the parameters with all of those things named correctly.

53:45

Then when I go to build it, I just use

53:47

the names of the cap thickness,

53:50

and you know, bottom radius and

53:52

whatever. And so I think if you took

53:54

that same approach to define the things

53:56

that are unique about that particular

53:58

object, and maybe, you know, to go that far

54:00

because you're talking about a style, not a particular

54:02

object. But I think the same thing applies. You

54:06

write down the things that are important, the things

54:08

that make that unique, the things that you would

54:10

want to recreate. You make a list

54:12

of them and then you use them to inform a

54:14

new design. So I think you could

54:16

do that like from the aesthetic

54:18

standpoint or from like a construction, you

54:21

know, like maybe you're thinking about, I

54:24

don't know, joinery. You could do it the same

54:26

way. It may not be visible stuff but it would

54:29

at least make consistent across multiple pieces.

54:31

Yeah. Well, especially if you're doing joinery,

54:34

maybe you have to create a custom jig for one

54:37

piece but that custom jig now

54:39

is usable for all the pieces within that particular

54:41

room. Sure. Yeah.

54:43

So you have two bedrooms and what was the other one?

54:45

Living room. Living

54:47

room. And a tiny little office, yeah.

54:50

So the living room is... So the bedrooms,

54:53

I would imagine you could apply like, you're

54:55

probably not going to do the exact same aesthetic between the

54:57

two of them, right? Two completely different bedrooms. This

54:59

one and that one. The living room is

55:01

the big shared crossover space

55:04

that most people will be in. Yeah.

55:08

Is there going to be a theme, Dave? Like is there an

55:10

overall theme for the house? Clowns? Is that what you

55:12

said? Clowns? Because I have a theme

55:15

for my graveyard house which I probably talked about publicly

55:17

but I'll tell you about it in a minute. Yeah, there

55:19

is definitely a theme. I haven't...

55:23

I don't have a phrase

55:25

or a word for it but I know

55:28

what it is in my head. It's the Picciuto

55:30

theme, right? Throughout the entire house there's

55:33

that particular feel. It is supposed

55:35

to be... It's not only

55:37

a house that we're

55:40

kind of designing from

55:42

the woodworker's perspective from the ground up

55:44

but it's also... It's a gallery of my

55:46

work. Like the whole thing. It's

55:49

like I've never been invited to show

55:51

my pieces at a gallery so I'm making

55:53

my own and this is what it is. So

55:56

it's...

55:58

I want... room to have this

56:01

cohesive feel to it but I also

56:03

want each piece to have an element

56:06

of that's a little bit different

56:08

or that's really cool or that's well-designed

56:10

type feel. Hmm,

56:14

nice. I could fit

56:16

and finish and care at everything. Yeah, yeah. As

56:19

opposed to my house, the overall theme is junk

56:21

drawer. Pre-hoarder.

56:27

Pre-hoarder. That's the

56:29

era of my house is junk drawer pre-hoarder. Now,

56:34

my house actually isn't that bad. I'm just kidding around.

56:36

My office, we got

56:38

used to Airbnb in the house 10 years ago

56:40

and so this office

56:42

happened to be the place that we would screw the door shut.

56:45

So everything we get thrown into this particular room

56:47

and I'd screw the door shut. So this

56:49

room became the junk drawer for like

56:52

last minute. Any personal things that's wrong in

56:54

here and the door got screwed shut. Obviously,

56:56

I don't have Airbnb in the house anymore but

56:59

this room is sort of my junk drawer but I

57:01

really make an effort to keep it quelled.

57:05

Many people who know me personally know my dad is a

57:07

legitimate hoarder. My dad literally turned

57:09

into a hoarder in his old age. My dad's going

57:11

to be 84 and we recently

57:13

spent, I don't think I did any stories on this,

57:16

about a month ago me and my siblings

57:19

who were here in New York, we went to

57:21

my dad's house and hired a dumpster

57:23

and threw away probably 10%

57:27

of what needs to get thrown away and he

57:30

gave away, we convinced him to give away a van he had

57:32

which was completely full of tools. He hasn't driven the thing

57:34

in 10 years. So he gave the van away.

57:36

So he's better, he's getting better. He's not

57:38

one of these guys that sits near the dumpster crying, I need

57:40

that, I need that. A little bit but not nearly.

57:43

He gave away. He literally

57:45

let us throw away 80% of what I expected. He expected

57:47

him to not let us throw away. So he was getting really good.

57:50

He's getting better at letting go of stuff. We need

57:52

to attack the inside of the house but I always have

57:54

that in my back, that's in my rear view.

57:57

I don't want that in my life and

57:59

that's partly And partly

58:01

why, outwardly, with

58:03

Rob, we've decided to just sell

58:05

so many things. Rob handles

58:08

the Facebook market stuff, anything.

58:10

I'm like, get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of it. Because

58:12

for years, I've taken in, when I moved up there, I took in so

58:14

much free stuff from people just because

58:17

it's cool or it's going to go on a recycling

58:19

bin. I'm like, let me have it. And so now it's

58:21

either restored and I'm selling it off, I'm

58:23

giving it away, a lot of things I just give away because

58:26

nobody wants to buy it because it's an odd thing. Anyway,

58:30

I'm really conscious of trying not to let the house become

58:32

a water house. That's a long-winded way of saying

58:34

that. And I really make an effort to get

58:36

rid of stuff and put stuff outside and give

58:39

it away, whatever.

58:40

So that's always my fear.

58:43

But when it comes down to really making fine decisions,

58:46

with this new house, talk about a blank slate, the

58:48

graveyard house, I started collecting

58:51

things for a look and a feel. So when

58:53

I come across something, I put it in the barn, which

58:55

is associated with the property. And

58:59

I say this, I don't know if I said this publicly, but

59:01

I want the house to be mortuary chic. I

59:04

want interesting mortuary

59:06

stuff. So mostly turn

59:08

of the century mortuary stuff. So

59:11

I bought a bombing table from 1880s and

59:14

the table is made completely out of porcelain, which

59:17

I've come to learn in the last few years. People

59:19

say porcelain, porcelain, porcelain. I didn't really understood

59:21

what that meant. It's basically

59:24

made out of a clay that gets fired very,

59:26

very high. So porcelain is much stronger than your

59:28

average

59:29

ceramic.

59:31

So it's a porcelain table completely

59:33

made out of porcelain, which makes it, it's

59:36

probably five, 600 pounds. It's

59:40

like if you took a claw foot bathtub

59:42

and like morphed it into a flat slab.

59:44

That's what this looks

59:46

like. So I'm trying to find stuff in that era.

59:50

Maybe I might find like a cool wheelchair. So

59:52

the whole thing is going to kind of have this like morbid

59:54

museum quality to it. That's really what I'm going

59:56

for for the house. I'm definitely going to have to make

59:59

a lot of stuff. stuff outside of just

1:00:01

making the house and the rooms and stuff. So

1:00:03

I've been collecting little bits and pieces of architectural

1:00:06

stuff for that. So that

1:00:09

is definitely the conscious effort that I'm going to put

1:00:11

into that house. And because I'm not going to

1:00:13

live there, there's certainly not going to be any, I'm

1:00:17

trying to think of the word, extensive,

1:00:19

unnecessary stuff that I don't need.

1:00:22

Like here are the things I need because I live here.

1:00:24

That's our approach. Over there. Yeah,

1:00:27

it's going to be just what's necessary just

1:00:29

to make it a house. If you have friends

1:00:31

come like, oh, go live at the graveyard house for the week.

1:00:34

Everything you need is there. There's

1:00:35

just a couple of cute personal

1:00:37

collections that I've gotten, you know, maybe a couple of

1:00:40

human skulls, a couple of rest and pieces

1:00:42

on the wall, that kind of stuff. Typical, typical

1:00:45

mortuary. What am I going to do with all these skulls? I guess

1:00:47

I should put them in my other house. There's something

1:00:50

freeing about designing this

1:00:53

other house that

1:00:56

it doesn't matter. Like when

1:00:58

I make something for our living room, it is something I

1:01:00

have to look at every single day. It

1:01:02

is something I have to use every day. It is something I share

1:01:05

with

1:01:06

my wife and my dogs.

1:01:08

And but

1:01:10

so there seems to be a lot of pressure on the stuff

1:01:13

I make for this house. I don't know why, but

1:01:15

that pressure isn't there on this other

1:01:17

house, even though I'm trying to make sure everything is

1:01:19

tied together.

1:01:21

Well, because like you're not even making that

1:01:23

for someone else to have to look at every day.

1:01:26

You're making it for someone to have to look at for a couple

1:01:29

of days. If it's a short term

1:01:31

rental or a rental of any kind, like

1:01:33

they don't have to live with it. They just

1:01:35

have to be there. So it's as long as

1:01:37

it doesn't look terrible, you're probably good. Well,

1:01:41

that's cool. I'm

1:01:44

excited to see how you how you

1:01:46

solve that. Yeah, I and I'm

1:01:48

feels like a lot of upfront work. Oh, yeah,

1:01:51

like I would love to

1:01:54

have everything designed first

1:01:56

for each room and then build but I can't

1:01:59

work like this. Yeah, I wouldn't

1:02:01

be able to make any. It's too daunting for me. So I'm

1:02:03

going to start with a piece

1:02:06

for each room and then just build from there. And

1:02:08

I wasn't necessarily looking for input

1:02:10

or ideas. I just wanted to know if

1:02:12

you guys have had this particular experience

1:02:15

and how you approached it. And

1:02:18

it sounds like Jimmy's going through the same thing with

1:02:21

the graveyard house. Junk drawer. Junk drawer.

1:02:24

Junk drawer approach. No, with the house obviously. I

1:02:26

want the house to feel like a museum

1:02:28

from the 1890s. It's kind

1:02:30

of the feel. That's what I want. That's

1:02:33

the theme I want. I'm not going to really change

1:02:35

the exterior of the house other than just to restore

1:02:37

it back to good, sturdy, well

1:02:40

insulated bones. Last

1:02:42

night, I got

1:02:44

my building permit

1:02:46

last night,

1:02:47

even though I started. I

1:02:49

went to the house the other day, and there was a building permit application

1:02:52

floating around inside the house, the town

1:02:56

building permit. I gave a nice guy. I'm

1:02:58

on his good side. He likes me.

1:03:00

Since we did all these projects here at the house and I thought

1:03:04

I bought the house with a permit. Last

1:03:07

night, he cleared up and said, no, the permit that was on the house

1:03:09

has expired, so you need to apply for new ones. So

1:03:11

I did last night. Everything seemed fine. And

1:03:16

he grew up here, and he thanked me for tackling

1:03:18

the project and doing the house the right way. I

1:03:22

was a little nervous that when I saw the thing, like,

1:03:24

we keep missing each other. He only works a couple days a week,

1:03:27

so he's never around. And so

1:03:29

when I saw the application, there's like a packet

1:03:31

with like 50 pages in it, and it says all the requirements

1:03:33

for the county and town. And when

1:03:36

I saw that floating around inside, he opened

1:03:38

the door to the house, threw it inside, and closed the door. And

1:03:40

so when I saw it on the floor blowing, I'm like, hmm,

1:03:43

I don't remember bringing a thick

1:03:45

packet of information pages here. And I picked

1:03:47

it up and says, Eastern

1:03:50

building permit applications. I was like, oh, I

1:03:52

got it. I got it. I understand now. Have

1:03:55

you mentioned what you're going to do with the

1:03:57

house when it's done?

1:03:59

just a project?

1:04:01

It's a project. Me and Howard have

1:04:03

been talking about buying property up here for a really long

1:04:06

time. I mean, since we actually got

1:04:08

together. And when

1:04:10

we finally found this, it's a nice

1:04:12

setting. It's a beautiful setting. And I

1:04:15

said, if we wanted to modify anything, it's

1:04:17

already halfway there. It's already been gutted completely.

1:04:20

I don't have to deal with plaster. I don't

1:04:22

have to remove rooms. This gentleman before

1:04:24

me did everything. So it would seem like a perfect opportunity

1:04:27

to get into it. And once it's done, I'll probably

1:04:29

have it either as a spillover

1:04:32

if I ever did an event, have people stay

1:04:34

there. And obviously you could Airbnb

1:04:36

it. I could rent it for whomever. Howard

1:04:39

could use it for his family. It's

1:04:42

just going to be an extra house. And then if things

1:04:44

get to a situation where we had with COVID,

1:04:47

where people were buying houses up here for 200%

1:04:49

of the asking price, 50% of the asking

1:04:54

price, 150% of the

1:04:56

asking price, I should say, I

1:04:58

could maybe cash out and be like, you know what, let's

1:05:01

do it. But

1:05:04

more than anything right now, the priority is just making

1:05:07

things right there and then getting in

1:05:09

collecting content.

1:05:11

Will

1:05:14

guests be allowed to touch the human skulls?

1:05:17

They'll all be under glass

1:05:20

domes.

1:05:22

There'll be one on the door. You're going to have to use

1:05:24

it as a knocker. That's amazing. That

1:05:26

is absolutely amazing. And

1:05:29

there's going to be like heads on pikes all

1:05:31

around the outside so you know when you walk.

1:05:33

Wow. You're

1:05:34

going to get a lot of people wanting to do that. What's the style called

1:05:36

again?

1:05:39

MortuarySheep.com.

1:05:42

I'd grab that right now. Yeah,

1:05:44

you might want to grab that. We

1:05:47

have a couple of days before you say it out loud. Cool.

1:05:52

Well, I want to thank our Patreon

1:05:54

supporters who help

1:05:56

you guys buy houses. I'm just kidding. They

1:05:58

help this show happen. We

1:06:01

are very grateful for everybody

1:06:03

that helps us out. We did have a little weird thing and I wanted to

1:06:06

throw this out there because I posted on Patreon

1:06:08

this last month, a

1:06:10

couple of our episodes, we forgot to mark

1:06:13

it as like a paid thing. So

1:06:15

people didn't get charged for a couple episodes.

1:06:18

I went back and created posts that charged

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for those. They'll all be on next month, whatever. If you're

1:06:22

a Patreon member, you probably saw that. But

1:06:25

regardless, thank you for your support. Thanks

1:06:28

for being around, for giving us ideas

1:06:30

for shows, for all the

1:06:32

comments and messages and stuff we get

1:06:34

through Patreon. It's really cool and anybody

1:06:36

can join it at any level. Everybody gets the

1:06:38

after show, which is more of us talking

1:06:41

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1:06:44

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Big thanks to them because they go above and beyond

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and have for a long time. We're very grateful

1:07:18

for everybody over there. So

1:07:21

thank you.

1:07:22

Thank you. Do you guys have anything

1:07:24

to recommend? Yes, I've been chopping

1:07:26

up a bit. All right. Say

1:07:29

it.

1:07:30

I have to make sure I say his name right. So I'm going to

1:07:32

look at my history. Where

1:07:38

is it? Come on now. The

1:07:41

secret life of machines with Tim Hunkin. I've

1:07:45

devoured like six of those videos in the last

1:07:47

two days. You guys know Tim Hunkin? I

1:07:50

don't. We talked about the secret life of machines.

1:07:53

He's very famous in England

1:07:55

because the show, it's like...

1:07:59

Top gear but for machines

1:08:02

and it was all made in the

1:08:04

80s and the videos are still just

1:08:06

as important The

1:08:08

secret life of machines Tim hunkin and I'm

1:08:11

actually just on his personal channel where which

1:08:13

is interesting because he'll do These were all

1:08:15

seemed like they were kind of reposted about two

1:08:17

or three years ago He'll show the episode

1:08:20

and in the episode he's 30 40 years younger

1:08:22

than he is now He might I don't even know if he's still alive He's

1:08:24

an old gentleman and then at the end

1:08:26

the last five or ten minutes of the video He'll show

1:08:28

the whole episode that was just reposted

1:08:31

from BBC and then in the last ten minutes He'll talk about

1:08:33

the episode 30 years later You'll see in

1:08:35

that episode when we showed like for instance

1:08:38

They did a thing about car skins how

1:08:40

the development of the car skin did one

1:08:42

of course about the motor One about the sewing

1:08:44

machine. He does a deep dive and

1:08:47

like I said because the history is the history of these episodes

1:08:49

are still very very potent with Right

1:08:52

with information and he'll say

1:08:54

oh in that episode we we faked this

1:08:56

because we had the whole camera crew sitting around

1:08:58

and we had to do something and then so

1:09:01

it's pretty interesting when you watch the episode and then he does

1:09:03

the Postscript at the end and

1:09:05

he's also 35 40 isn't older so

1:09:08

you see the guy in the video and then you see him in like it's

1:09:10

hard to imagine it's the same person and The

1:09:13

secret life of the photocopier which was

1:09:16

great because where did how do photocopies

1:09:18

start? Where did the Xerox machine come from?

1:09:21

Yeah, so it's just great. So his name is T.

1:09:23

I am H un k. I and that's his

1:09:25

channel Tim Hunkin He was the host and

1:09:28

I remember him popping up We

1:09:30

might have talked about him quickly years ago two

1:09:32

years ago. I do now that I see it the videos I

1:09:35

do remember you bringing it up before he did

1:09:37

an episode on springs I mean now

1:09:39

he does the episodes I think he does more like YouTube

1:09:41

versions, but this show I Didn't

1:09:44

really know about so if you go to this

1:09:47

The secret life of machines is

1:09:49

the actual show that the BBC published and

1:09:51

now he was the host though But now

1:09:53

his newer channels newer stuff is just him doing

1:09:55

things to the camera like we do

1:09:58

Anyway, check him out Cool.

1:10:03

What's got it? A YouTube channel called Dear

1:10:05

Modern and it's all about feng

1:10:07

shui and I

1:10:10

thought feng shui kind of meant

1:10:12

the flow of room but it goes

1:10:14

in so much deeper than that

1:10:18

of placement of things and why

1:10:20

you don't want your back to a door and why

1:10:22

you would want a desk in this particular

1:10:25

position and I started

1:10:28

going through the rabbit hole of this YouTube

1:10:30

channel and

1:10:32

it turns out he also has a book so I just

1:10:35

started his book as well. It's

1:10:38

just feng

1:10:40

shui is, I casually

1:10:43

was looking something up and now I'm

1:10:45

down this huge rabbit hole so

1:10:48

it's called Dear Modern.

1:10:52

Cool. I have two. One

1:10:55

I'm trying to look up because I

1:10:57

forgot what the name of it was. I

1:11:01

pre-ordered a book

1:11:03

by our buddy Andrew

1:11:06

Huang. It's called Make Your Own Rules. That was the name of the

1:11:08

book. It's for pre-order. So Andrew Huang

1:11:10

is a musician. He is amazing.

1:11:13

He's just, I don't even

1:11:15

know of another word. He's amazing. And

1:11:19

he wrote a book that I'm very excited about reading because

1:11:21

he's just an incredible musician

1:11:23

but also just a really nice guy and a really,

1:11:26

he has like a really interesting way of

1:11:28

thinking about things and looking at things. So he wrote

1:11:31

a book about making

1:11:33

music and being a creator and all this stuff

1:11:36

and it's for pre-order right now. So I'm

1:11:38

excited about it. I'll put a link to it in

1:11:41

case you want to check it out. The other thing

1:11:44

is a video by Steve Mould

1:11:48

and Steve Mould is, I've met him a couple

1:11:50

of times. I don't know him well but I've met him a couple

1:11:52

of times and he's ridiculously

1:11:54

smart and

1:11:56

he makes really cool videos. So the

1:11:59

other day he did this video and

1:12:01

I saw it pretty much as soon as he posted it

1:12:03

and it was like at 26,000 views.

1:12:07

This was two days ago. Now it is at 2.2

1:12:09

million and it's called

1:12:12

a cast saw on human skin.

1:12:14

So he does this whole video about how

1:12:16

a cast saw works and why it does

1:12:18

or doesn't cut your skin when they're cutting the cast

1:12:21

off you. Oh, I'm looking at it now. Yeah, that's great.

1:12:23

I follow this guy. I guess I stopped watching

1:12:27

and there's a really funny he

1:12:29

does an ad spot in the video

1:12:32

and it just I laughed out loud for some

1:12:35

reason it really caught me off guard because he's talking

1:12:37

about how this saw works and then talking

1:12:39

about like I wonder if I could shave with this and then he

1:12:41

like goes on he does this thing and all of a sudden he

1:12:44

goes into this ad spot where he's half shaved like

1:12:46

just half of his face and for some

1:12:48

reason it really made me laugh. But anyway,

1:12:51

it's a very cool video. It's neat to see a saw like that

1:12:53

and it's how it's built for its purpose. There's this

1:12:55

creator named Max Flosh, one of my absolute

1:12:57

favorites. He's the one I have notifications

1:13:00

turned on for and he's

1:13:03

so brilliant at doing ad spots. There's

1:13:05

one time he took his sister to court

1:13:09

to I forget what the video

1:13:11

was about but while Max

1:13:14

was in court, he started to do

1:13:16

his ad read and it was just

1:13:19

it was so good. It was yeah.

1:13:23

Yeah.

1:13:24

Wow. That's

1:13:26

all I got. That's a check out Max Flosh

1:13:28

as a extra homework. Cool.

1:13:34

All right. You guys got anything else this week? That's

1:13:37

it.

1:13:37

That's it. I want to see a pack

1:13:41

out. I want to see a pack out house pack out

1:13:43

system. How is pack out

1:13:45

system in case you need to take your house with you. Jimmy, Jimmy

1:13:48

just sent us photos of what he

1:13:50

sees at his desk and I'm just kind

1:13:52

of good at like it is kind of a museum

1:13:55

of crap and

1:13:57

there's a lot of stuff going on. There

1:14:00

is a lot of stuff going on. There's a lot of knives.

1:14:03

A lot of knives. A whole lot of knives. It's

1:14:09

a junk. Wow. I love this desk

1:14:11

though. Oh, you're that little Chevy. Yeah.

1:14:15

I think nobody else can see this stuff. It's funny.

1:14:17

Anyway, cool. Well, let's

1:14:19

go do the aftership. That little Chevy

1:14:22

was when I went through Aaron stuff. I found that

1:14:24

in Aaron stuff. There's a couple of Aaron mementos

1:14:26

on the table.

1:14:27

Awesome.

1:14:28

Cool. Well, thanks for listening everybody. And we'll

1:14:30

see you next time. Love.

1:14:35

Now I got to do it. Oh, that was terrible.

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