0:01

So we both cried. At.

0:03

A video recently. David know Jimmy? did you grow at

0:05

that video Mean Jack A Watch it together. We just

0:07

thought it was very good. We both thought it was

0:10

old. Video like us is really close is a classic

0:12

Ac but them. There was

0:14

no No. Yeah,

0:16

case in a separate out a video. Last

0:19

week sometime and as goods about

0:22

running. Running. A marathon, And.

0:26

At the that it doesn't do justice. You

0:29

have to watch the video like I couldn't

0:31

explain it to anybody. I don't think you

0:33

should have beat his record by minutes, minutes,

0:35

a two and three and four minutes and

0:37

that was his. Goal was to get under

0:39

three minutes and area and he he under

0:42

three hours right? And he was running and.

0:45

How many races? Twenty fi? Sometimes.

0:48

Yeah, over the course of the last several

0:50

years and each race was a twenty five,

0:52

twenty six mile. Marathon. And

0:55

he wanted to get under

0:57

three hours in every. Be.

0:59

You've been through the whole series of why

1:01

and how he wanted to get under that

1:03

three hour mark and the last couple it

1:05

was only just. Two. Minutes. Three minutes

1:07

is a in that wasn't enough. He wanted

1:10

to get older and and want to ruin

1:12

the ending. but it's good. If.

1:14

You. If. You look at

1:16

it is a very like standard

1:19

well done storytelling video and got

1:21

three acts. There's a villain because

1:23

he hurts himself at the beginning

1:25

and an existing that he has

1:27

to overcome for the end and

1:30

is just he is just phenomenal.

1:32

It's storytelling, Yeah, he

1:34

really is. What are the things that

1:36

struck me when I was watching? It

1:38

was that. I

1:41

mean obviously when you watch somebody on you

1:43

tube. This is obvious but I'm saying

1:45

and allowed because it was part of a bigger realization.

1:48

You. Don't know everything about the right? You see the

1:50

part that they give you. You see the part that

1:52

they. Share. Through the

1:54

video Or through whatever social media or whatever.

1:58

See, see that part and then you just assume. Some.

2:02

The. That the rest of their life that you

2:04

don't see or you've not heard anything about a

2:07

similar to yours like is probably a lot of

2:09

overlap. you know, like we had a similar this

2:11

time in my for a similar that unlike the

2:13

watch a video like that new like wait. You.

2:16

Get hit by a car. And.

2:18

They told he would never run again. Seventeen

2:20

years ago, That's. Crazy.

2:23

Like I never heard that story I say

2:25

I know that story. I knew that I've

2:27

known case or nice that as a guy

2:30

that just runs all the time and makes

2:32

me a runner feel I gotta run and

2:34

you know them in. And then when you

2:36

find out he broke his leg in a

2:38

car accident spitting out of even worth more

2:40

worthless. Well I'm not a bad but it's

2:42

you know it said he was one of

2:44

those realizations really? oh yeah we don't really

2:46

know. Most most of each other

2:49

you know. like unless we have a personal

2:51

relationship we don't really know anything about. The

2:54

Backstory. That. Makes each of us

2:56

who we are in. And.

2:58

Out, it's cool. It's just it. It makes people

3:00

so much more interesting when you can look at

3:03

them and realize like I'd really don't know very

3:05

much about you, even if I talked to on

3:07

a daily basis. There's a part of your history,

3:09

a part of what made you who you are

3:11

that I've never encountered. And. That's

3:13

really cool. We know it. It's him

3:15

like people are deeper than than we

3:17

may be. I. Give. Them credit

3:20

for or think about. That.

3:22

Was the thing is stuck out with the. To

3:24

me most in a video and just his

3:27

persistence to. Like.

3:29

Have a story line. Not.

3:32

Not for a video, but his story line in his

3:34

head. That. He was willing to

3:36

continue to chase for seventeen years.

3:39

In to be able to pull the story

3:41

line together into a video that covers that

3:43

among time. Is. Crazy.

3:48

One. Is it when I watch

3:50

his videos and I see his

3:52

archival footage? throw his life is

3:54

crazy to think how he's just

3:56

he's filmed everything. Even. before there

3:58

was you tube and place to

4:00

distribute videos he filmed everything

4:04

and I remember getting my

4:06

first video camera I remember my first

4:08

camera and I I

4:12

filmed stuff but I

4:15

don't know where any of

4:17

that stuff is it's amazing

4:19

his recall on his catalog

4:21

is unbelievable did you guys have video

4:23

cameras when you were younger yeah

4:25

I have video cameras in my first

4:27

video camera bought 1985 I know

4:29

where the box is all but none of its digitized

4:32

and none of it probably works anymore if

4:34

the tapes of haven't been archived

4:37

I would assume they probably all

4:39

are okay they've been kept dry

4:41

but not heated hmm

4:45

cool they're probably alright don't they need to be cooled

4:47

well I mean it meant to say temperature control yeah

4:50

yeah we we had

4:52

a video camera growing up probably

4:55

when I was I don't

4:57

know middle school or something like that we

5:00

got a little CVHS camera remember those it's

5:02

like a video tape that was on the

5:04

floor yep and so

5:06

we made a lot of silly

5:08

movies as kids

5:12

and we were just at the age to where we

5:14

knew somebody who could drive you

5:17

know even if we weren't me and my immediate

5:19

friends weren't old enough to drive so we got

5:21

to take this camera to a

5:23

lot of places so recently probably six

5:25

months ago or something I found a

5:27

box of these tapes and these were the

5:30

same tapes that I recorded things on all

5:32

the way up to when Janine

5:34

I got engaged because I had our engagement

5:36

on one of these tapes oh

5:38

so I had multiple cameras you know

5:40

across that same format but anyway I

5:42

found this box that went all the

5:44

way from like seventh eighth grade up

5:46

to when we got engaged and

5:49

I bought a little HDMI converter

5:51

thing and like plugged

5:54

it in and recorded all those things so I

5:56

digitized all of those tapes and most of them

5:58

were like My high school bands. Hang

6:00

me rollerblading around town and trying to do tricks

6:02

you know? and my friends like Owl City Camera

6:04

and so like stuff he would never wanna watch.

6:06

It has no purpose. It's not gonna go anywhere

6:08

my kids don't want to see. It's of like

6:10

that. But. It was so

6:12

cool to be able to go back

6:15

through those moments in my younger life,

6:17

you know, and even like seeing my

6:19

engagement to Jenny. The.

6:21

Was. I. Remember it obviously

6:24

big moment my life but. To

6:26

be able to see it from another perspective

6:28

through a video camera the somebody else was

6:31

filming was kinda weird. It's kind of cool,

6:33

but it was a. Nose

6:35

like and out of body experience can see

6:37

in this moment that I remembered from a

6:39

very different we're we're engaged on of. We.

6:42

Are in North Carolina. And we're

6:44

Anna Rivers political sliding rock. and you

6:46

can climb up this rock face and

6:49

then you jump about. Twenty thirty

6:51

feet down into the water, into the river and

6:53

like a deep spot and everybody just climbed up

6:55

and jumps. So

6:57

we had a friend down on the bottom who wasn't

6:59

doing this jump and so she was filming. Senior was

7:01

gonna do it. We got to the top of this,

7:04

climbed up this rock. I. Proposed she

7:06

said yes. And then I took

7:08

the ring back from our to. They wanted to

7:10

jump and lose it. I took the ring back

7:12

and put it back in the bag back in

7:14

my pocket. closes outgrow them. We jumped and then

7:17

we got out and then I give her the

7:19

ring backs and so we have all this on

7:21

video. You can see her she's like it's take

7:23

a backseat like weight was in this isn't some

7:25

and we jump and but seeing that not from.

7:28

The. High Prospectus you know not from

7:30

the the kneeling perspective to see all am

7:32

somewhere else was really cool but then that

7:34

makes me think. About

7:36

like Casey's our kinds of stuff.

7:39

And how the majority of his perspective

7:41

his video is from his perspective he

7:44

was filming it. And

7:46

so he has this. This. First

7:48

person. Archive.

7:51

Of moments in his life that you know. He

7:54

can see it exactly as he saw in the

7:56

moment, not as someone else site which I know

7:58

that's another really cool thing. But.

8:01

I. Do members

8:03

before phones were real world record

8:05

video there was little I think

8:08

have club slip camera. It was

8:10

a tiny camera that would fit

8:13

in your pocket and I had

8:15

one of those and the says.

8:18

I'm. Not sure the exact date

8:20

Two Thousand Seven is. My

8:23

band and Kelly's Ban were playing on it

8:25

and year's Eve show. We're

8:28

opening for this other bigger bank

8:30

of Grandpa Say and I made

8:32

a video. I didn't know Kelly

8:35

at the same but I made

8:37

a video where I asked probably

8:39

thirty. Thirty. Five People What? Your

8:41

New Years Resolution was at Kelly's in

8:43

that video. That is than that. It's

8:46

basically the night I met Kelly and

8:48

she is in this video that I

8:50

made it and it's on my I'm.

8:54

Ah Vimeo is that the other

8:56

you to or the other video

8:58

have not yet the videos online

9:00

All my Vimeo and. I.

9:02

Look back at him like that's not bad

9:04

video to make as your first Like. Kind

9:08

of video with with a purpose and

9:10

says on there in a bunch of

9:12

my friends are on their an animal

9:15

assists. Anybody who's

9:17

twenty years younger than us. Their

9:19

whole lives are going to be in

9:21

photos and videos so there's this whole

9:23

next generation of amazing so makers who

9:25

have and will tell their life story

9:28

Adam as it's just think about all

9:30

the Netflix documentary that are that would

9:32

be coming out. Of

9:34

the Fia. Everything and on video now did.

9:36

Did we talked about the thing a few

9:39

weeks? Go wherever you're posting pictures of themselves.

9:41

A twenty one. Bhutanese.

9:43

I saw it I didn't I didn't to

9:45

to suppose it was really fun some well

9:47

yes and here's why it's because I saw

9:49

that being posted and you know gonna on

9:51

Instagram in a race? I yeah sure you

9:53

picture you at twenty one or whatever and

9:55

everybody. It dawned on me that everybody was

9:57

that was doing it. All they had to

9:59

do was. Search the their found find a

10:01

picture than twenty one since the three that that

10:03

would I have to go day addict Pull out

10:05

a box full of year those slip through them

10:07

and then try to remember. How. Old was

10:10

I at this rate. I have no idea for him right

10:12

as on the back of a picture in here. It

10:14

is one of those things if you're lucky you

10:16

get your prince back and it had the date

10:19

printed on the on the back of the motor

10:21

our you had your camera embed the the dates

10:23

on the front of which was a big no

10:25

no. Yes, Made

10:27

for not classy photos by and so I

10:30

I've been clear now my dad's house and

10:32

I sounds the other day abroad of home

10:34

and at the moment I think into work

10:36

and but I got the video camera and

10:38

I know these are examined. My dad was

10:40

a junk collector so none of these things

10:42

that I have hagel from my childhood the

10:44

ones I have my childhood I still possess

10:46

that I had but I sounded vhs. It's

10:49

a Super Eight Sony. It's the same

10:51

exact one from Back to the Future

10:53

The first season the first episode of

10:55

Back To The When He's Holding in

10:57

the parking lot Twin Peaks over. it's

10:59

old, looks brand new in a box,

11:01

but it was kept outside and didn't

11:03

seem to get any water damage. but

11:05

it was outside under on stuff so

11:07

it's got some. Whether. Someone.

11:09

Who knows he could be the could have been there for ten

11:11

years, know my? Resume that

11:14

I love stuff and this goes back

11:16

to I'm. Sorting.

11:18

My dad for twenty thirty years

11:20

would work to donations at church.

11:23

You taking the donation sift through them and

11:25

then it has the church sale every Memorial

11:27

Day weekend or whenever was and he had

11:29

a chance to. Coal. Whatever anybody

11:32

brought in and it was all pupils is donated

11:34

stuff and my dad would always take what he

11:36

wanted with everybody else that work there and then

11:38

they would sell everything else and so that's why.

11:41

Don't you? My dad's of this. Hundreds

11:43

of cameras, hundreds of low probably tens of

11:45

video cameras, tons of tools all because we

11:47

would bring elected says it's all box. That

11:49

was my dad's a My dad would take

11:51

our what he wanted him and give the

11:53

things to So to. That is why my

11:55

Dad has. Millions Of. Everything. Hundreds

11:58

and hundreds of or that. That

12:00

being said, his Vhs camera is the super. Agnes got

12:03

a tape and it's as winter eighty eight on it.

12:05

I. Don't know what's in it. So I popped into

12:07

the thing, turned on. He. Could see to

12:09

the lens actually did looks fuzzy it looks like.

12:11

As for a new by the way, it's week

12:14

in perfect condition, but. It

12:16

was probably like a lot of moisture damage. When

12:20

I popped the tape and in a killer to play an

12:22

attack at a to eject. So I'm going to work on

12:24

that a little bit but it is very cool. somebody donated

12:26

say so I don't know what's on the tape. Also

12:30

my friends, you better be careful. Awesome! It's

12:32

assessments know my dad and my word. S

12:35

S S S Blue Long story short, I

12:38

couldn't get it to play but I still

12:40

want to play with it some more. I

12:42

did find another one which was a. And

12:45

it was also Super Eight and that sit here

12:48

on the floor. I get another donated saying with

12:50

some stranger talking at a podium but that would

12:52

have turned on right away. With this one is

12:54

the exact one from back to the city which

12:57

is why it's exciting. Young. Price

12:59

so many things you knowingly or a

13:01

slot right? As true as a the

13:03

ingenuity of how far Thomas of com

13:06

is just unbelievable that's like a deck

13:08

player and and have the back as

13:10

a deck player in the front as

13:12

the camera and as holding a to

13:14

my handsome and and not realizing why

13:16

it's a big perfect square but the

13:18

whole lens covered. Creates. A

13:20

a square on the whole front of the cameras are

13:22

you pop it often than it looks just like the

13:24

one from the movie. A

13:27

way. I'll play with that most show

13:29

it descends. Beautiful Box My friend said the

13:31

success of Box and as the nuclear codes

13:33

but it's Athena something eighteen eighty size movie.

13:36

Thing. For in the probably made a

13:38

few years Yes, I

13:41

was. That's a boring story but I do

13:43

have all my own ch oh my cameras

13:45

that I owns. The all in boxes are

13:47

not like to see whether labeled on a

13:49

shelf, but I do have everything that I've

13:51

ever shot from eighty five forward. And

13:53

when it when I was growing up we had. In

13:56

Nineteen Eighty Four, my friend, my

13:58

concerns, You brother. They had accrued a

14:01

Halloween party. They brought in a flatbed truck

14:03

and are other group of our other friends.

14:05

You did a Black Sabbath cover band. They

14:07

play Black Sabbath on the back of his.

14:10

Flatbed. Truck. And. We had disputes

14:12

halloween party will like three towns get together

14:14

and I chose and I films and documentaries

14:17

entire thing. To. Take the second

14:19

hour and half long and. That

14:21

tape. Was. Would viral in

14:23

my town. I gave out copies

14:25

of that every person and then

14:27

when when from. Diseases.

14:30

Cz a beer. just see than it

14:32

once it's. To. A and

14:34

then it was easy and then it was

14:36

a Dd. I made copies on T V

14:38

and then in a top his own discs

14:40

so I ended up making probably twenty copies

14:42

of that and I and as every time

14:44

is a funeral and we get together. My

14:46

friends are so I don't know where my

14:48

hobbies are lost and nobody has the copies

14:50

of the role leaning on me because we've

14:53

had a few funerals recently we've had a

14:55

couple of a father had died so we've

14:57

all got together and everyone's asking me if

14:59

I find that. I'm definitely gonna put it

15:01

on Patriot Act as and will get like

15:03

ten views. And regularly you to. But if

15:05

I signed up for a pension and in that

15:07

video I was upside down that was my Halloween

15:09

costume so how a tie with wire in it

15:12

that was my hair a really long hair was

15:14

like was positive so the whole thing I made

15:16

it look like my sleeves was hyped up have

15:18

a look like I was walking around upside down.

15:21

There was my hollowing costs as on is only

15:23

one second where somebody grabs the camera from the

15:25

in films me systems and until mid everybody else

15:27

and then it's performance of the see Black Sabbath

15:29

songs of with them very well For my my

15:32

buddies that are all very very tough. Was Mrs

15:34

and still. Misses Thirty Five

15:36

years ago. So. And it was

15:38

One of these Days are fine then fled. Yeah

15:40

I'm in. just put it on, maybe just

15:43

put it another channel and and any you

15:45

know people from your past ask you about

15:47

you can dislike Yes years young Europe's my

15:49

dad. Recently.

15:52

Converted a lot of. I

15:55

guess they were. And

15:57

I think he was super a they were probably able to

15:59

statement. Major some. And

16:01

maybe sixty and I remember, but he had

16:04

all these film canisters because his dad

16:06

would shoot. A. Film

16:08

of them doing different things when they

16:10

were boys. This is the inner cities.

16:13

And. So. He bought

16:15

the full. Kodak.

16:17

Like real. The real thing. That.

16:20

You you pop the reels on and it

16:22

has like an h the am I out

16:24

and will just record whatever playing through and

16:26

seat in the end. It was not inexpensive

16:28

or anything. And It'll

16:30

It'll does easily digitize these rolls of film

16:32

and so he went through all these old

16:34

role that he had some that were left

16:37

here at the house from my grandad and

16:39

he put em all up on you tube

16:41

and you know said I'm around to his

16:43

brothers and other family members the stuff and

16:45

it was them. Camping is kids and do

16:47

and Boy Scout. You. Know heights

16:49

and that water ski a lot.

16:52

so it's just. It's. This

16:54

really interesting. You

16:57

know, no audio. Really interesting glimpse

16:59

into. At.

17:01

And or know just like

17:03

normal life stuff. Fun family

17:06

stuff from the sixties and.

17:09

Even. Silly things like that that that

17:11

there's a couple of them sledding. And.

17:14

So it's enough to seize three young boys out

17:16

sledding and he's my grandad like sending it. And

17:18

there's this one hill here Now everyone in the

17:21

whole is still here. but now there's a veterinarian

17:23

office there and it goes down into the back

17:25

of a neighborhood and and at that time it

17:27

was like on the edge of town and so

17:29

they would go to the top of this hill

17:32

and they would slow down and they have to

17:34

stop right before they went into a creek. and

17:36

so there's this and he always tell me but

17:38

that and then there's this film of them doing

17:41

it and at the top they're trying to stay

17:43

warm and there's this big fire. Of.

17:45

Tires Citizens A burning Whatever. Saw

17:47

the neighborhood. Kids can you know

17:50

it's like a different times? like

17:52

a totally different burn into the

17:54

nail. Have spots. But

17:58

anyway it it was really cold. Be able

18:00

to see those videos of him as a

18:02

kid. And around that same

18:04

time as when I was like oh my I have these

18:07

these tapes I should probably do that with. You know, before

18:09

I. Lose. The ability to

18:11

convert them before the. Other

18:14

technology out runs that conversion.

18:17

But I think at this point is

18:20

pretty inexpensive to get away to convert.

18:22

Any. Kind of old filmer

18:24

video or. Even audio you

18:26

know to something that you could you can

18:28

keep them pass on if it's valuable but

18:31

then at the same time looking back at

18:33

that stuff case it as a great job

18:35

of taking old stuff that's personal and making

18:37

it's valuable and in the context of the

18:39

bigger story. My. Stuff is

18:41

probably not ever going to be that. And.

18:43

It may be a generation or maybe two

18:46

of my family that. Gives. A

18:48

Rip about my videos. My.

18:50

Home videos and but that's okay. You

18:52

know these things don't have to be

18:54

like. They want to go

18:56

on forever, but it would be cool to share them with

18:58

my kids and grandkids and stuff. Most

19:01

of my own videos are.

19:04

All my cameras my as

19:06

so I have a as.

19:09

One. Has a high a camera

19:11

and netherlands a Vhs see camera one

19:13

belonged my dad, one blogger, my grandpa

19:15

and then they ended up not using

19:17

them as much as they thought they

19:20

word and the given the mates most

19:22

of my footy from those cameras are

19:24

just on a tripod at coffee houses

19:26

at bars me and and bans and

19:28

me telling my friends bands and a

19:30

couple times have gotten some of these

19:33

tapes out and like oh because opposed

19:35

my old man up on facebook and

19:37

I go through it now makes no.

19:39

I don't want people to see this.

19:41

This is really bad. Yeah.

19:45

And. I've got a bunch of those two from like

19:47

when I was in college and the bands, and even after

19:49

college and stuff. And. Those cameras

19:52

would never. even if that sounds good

19:54

in the moment, it doesn't sound good

19:56

through. one of those makes him health

19:58

and and I did. s. Well

20:02

anyway what do you? are the me been up

20:04

to even we've been doing really. Well.

20:08

I've been experimenting with. Of

20:12

experimenting with. You.

20:15

See how that they make sake me on

20:17

these days? with the

20:19

like Mister Ellison strips. I'll

20:21

start experimenting with. that's because with my

20:24

to the my be a business venture

20:26

with making this neon signs and so

20:28

my partner's. Semi. Some supplies

20:30

and said experiment with it and reserve

20:33

brings up. It's an interesting. I've seen

20:35

some stuff so jordan when they hit

20:37

us I've seen things you've sent me

20:39

but I've been resisting. Going in

20:41

looking exactly how it's done. Because my

20:43

job is to innovate as my my

20:45

role in this is to innovate. Simple.

20:48

New ways to make this happen faster? Or

20:50

to make it more efficient, whatever it might

20:52

be. Might. Be might not be faster,

20:54

but it might be more cost effective one way

20:56

or the other. That's my my role. With.

20:59

This neon pursuit And so I got

21:01

the supplies I try to sign. I

21:03

went through the motions as if what

21:05

I vaguely seen in some of the

21:07

videos and. Handle difficult

21:09

time in the whole time of thing is this is

21:11

exists that would be better in a set was like

21:14

sad that would be better in a set was exact

21:16

that would be better and less. I redesigned my cat

21:18

Pass. It so aware I just I'm

21:20

using the word I make and I'm gonna save

21:22

i make a neon it's fake me on it's

21:25

silly deep. Backed. Rubber

21:27

Strips. And the rubber strips light up

21:29

like neon and. The

21:31

Reserve. Bring it up. It's interesting. To

21:35

just do something you've never have never done this

21:37

before and I'm also not very good at soldering

21:39

as an outsider a lot and I have to

21:41

sort of the ends of the wires have suit

21:44

is to run the electrical connections each letter one

21:46

at a time with wires. And

21:48

says it when we just go through

21:50

this cold and see where. The.

21:53

average person who does this was when as

21:55

bottlenecks and it's been it's been a great

21:57

experiment and i'm waiting on the power so

22:00

I could see if my solder

22:03

joints work. So the power pack will come

22:05

today. But I also opened up, as I was

22:07

having problems, I opened up Amazon. I'm like, I need better

22:09

wire. So I found the right wire. I close it. I'm

22:11

like, I need a better soldering iron. I open up Amazon.

22:13

I order that. I need this tool. I order that. And

22:16

then I'm like, what's

22:18

the difference between laser versus? You need a channel. So

22:20

if I'm going to laser cut it, it has to

22:22

be two pieces. I cut out the

22:25

complete letters, and then leave the channel and glue

22:27

it to another backer. Or if I CNC

22:29

it on the router table, I've

22:32

got to leave a channel. But then that's

22:34

messy. So I'm going through all these iterations.

22:38

At the moment, I only have one in front of me. But today, as

22:40

soon as we're done, I'm going to go cut another and a third. And

22:43

I have some, I think

22:46

I have some innovation. So I want to get one that works

22:48

good, that goes together good. And then I'm going to watch the

22:50

videos and see how other people done it. So

22:53

a lot of people, I think we all

22:56

do. I do. We run to research. But sometimes I go

22:58

to run to research, and I'm like, wait a minute. I

23:00

don't want to go down a path. I

23:02

don't want to get locked into something. I don't want to

23:04

start innovating on something that's not a good path to begin

23:06

with. So I'm just going in very cold. And

23:09

so that's been my week. I don't think I'm going to

23:11

have a video this weekend. I might have a couple of

23:13

Patreon videos, but nothing for regular YouTube. And

23:16

yeah, it's exciting to experiment with something new.

23:19

It brings me back to my toy business

23:21

days, when I was always just giving

23:23

stuff by clients. So I play with this, and

23:25

let's see if we can make it better. Well, this is our

23:27

product from two years ago. We want to make it better. Da,

23:29

da, da. And

23:31

I used to work in this one toy company, and I

23:34

was the one always running around. And they were all very

23:36

corporate. And they'd be like, oh, Jimmy's up to something again.

23:38

I'd be like, running around with a pot of chocolate, doing

23:40

something, melting sugar. Because we did a lot of candy stuff

23:42

at this one place. And that was the only guy that

23:44

would innovate. They had a

23:47

lot of partners. So they would take it in products from all around

23:49

the world. And then they'd give it to

23:51

me. They'd be like, see if we can improve this. This

23:53

is from Bluebird Toys in England. We've got to make it

23:55

better. One thing or another. So

23:57

that's how I feel like I'm doing again. running

24:01

to research, I think I have the opposite

24:03

problem. And I think

24:05

a middle ground is somewhere probably is the best. But I

24:08

think I actively avoid research a

24:10

lot of times. So

24:13

maybe. Yeah, that's just what I'm saying. That's kind of what I'm

24:15

doing a little bit at this time. Yeah, but I mean you're

24:17

doing it on purpose. I think I naturally do it when

24:19

I would maybe make it a

24:21

lot easier on myself if I just did a

24:24

little bit. I find

24:26

myself doing it out of fear because it's like

24:28

a fear-based thing. I don't want to confront

24:30

those technology. Not fear,

24:32

I don't even know what I'm scared of. It's just, I

24:35

just don't want to, I

24:37

got this, I can figure it out. I don't need any of these

24:39

help. It's like a little of all that. Yeah.

24:42

Well, it's also, I mean for me anyway,

24:44

it's fun to figure it out. And

24:47

just to be told something, like

24:50

here's the path to get to the thing you want to get

24:52

to. I mean like, okay. That's

24:54

not like, I don't really want the end result so

24:56

much as I want to enjoy

24:58

the figuring out of getting to the thing,

25:01

you know. So

25:03

I think a lot of times I'll avoid

25:05

research simply because I enjoy the, I

25:09

don't know, the experimentation or something. Knowing that

25:11

I'm doing it wrong. Knowing that I'm not

25:13

being the most efficient in getting to the

25:15

end result. But that's not really

25:17

the thing I enjoy that much. And

25:19

I think, you know, well we've talked about

25:21

this before, but I think from a viewer's perspective, that

25:25

can be pretty frustrating to

25:28

watch because they

25:30

know that there's an answer out there already.

25:33

And from their perspective, I'm

25:35

avoiding time saving or

25:39

avoiding doing it the best way possible

25:41

for the sake of just figuring it

25:43

out. But that's

25:45

not really something I can explain to a viewer.

25:48

You know, I can't explain to everybody

25:50

why I'm making all the choices I'm making,

25:52

but I enjoy fumbling

25:55

through something for a little while. More than I enjoy

25:57

just like, here's the paper that tells you how to

25:59

do it. to do the thing now I'm gonna

26:01

make a video following the paper you know it's

26:03

just not me no

26:06

instructions yeah there you

26:09

go perfect before David

26:12

we even up to I'm still working

26:14

on the stereo stand I'm almost done

26:16

no I know right putting

26:20

the last coat of finish on there I'll

26:22

send you guys a photo there are no

26:25

90 degree joints in this entire

26:27

thing oh and

26:29

so it's a little bit different so

26:31

all the other people are like you

26:33

need to get out of this mid-century

26:35

modern design and do something else this

26:38

is it right here it's super

26:41

weird but

26:43

yeah so there's you know you can

26:46

see in the photo there's three pieces there's the main cabinet

26:48

that holds the record player and then the records are going

26:50

to go in that little hole there so you can flip

26:52

through there the bottom part is a drawer and

26:55

then we were working on the stands stands

26:57

was the hardest part to figure out because

27:00

it didn't have a design for them I kept

27:02

wanting to repeat the trapezoid

27:05

but in all the drawings they

27:07

would just take away from the centerpiece

27:09

and everything just looked too heavy and

27:12

so then I was like well we'll

27:15

just make basically

27:17

like a like a post looks like a

27:19

big capital letter I and then

27:21

Daniel's like what if you chopped it right here

27:23

and did this weird angle same the same angle

27:26

that's in the cabinet and like hmm let's give

27:28

that a shot and then I think

27:30

it came out great so after

27:32

three and a half weeks we'll finally be done I'm

27:34

not sure that I'll have the video done by

27:36

this weekend but it but I

27:39

promise by the next episode of making it I

27:41

will I will have it done sure

27:46

yeah I've been working on them

27:48

cool off-camera

27:51

I've been working on coming up with a

27:54

finish a Finish.

27:57

That works for me. Couple

28:00

weeks ago I recommended this video by

28:02

Thomas Mosher their a high and furniture

28:04

company they make like. All the

28:07

furniture like starts at five thousand

28:09

dollars and in this video shows

28:11

there. Was the

28:13

which up where they make it. It's

28:15

a it's a production facility but everything

28:17

is. It's like a handmade production facility.

28:19

Like there is a guy at a

28:21

plane or feeding sports through and somebody

28:23

a table saws and and in the

28:25

video. They.

28:27

Said are finishing process is two

28:30

days. we do one that one

28:32

day we did. It's a mixture

28:34

of. Boiled. Linseed Oil

28:37

with residents and. Drain

28:40

agents. And. It's a proprietary

28:42

blend and then the next day we

28:44

wax and that's it that is. It's

28:46

just a Today process and their furniture

28:49

is phenomenal and I'm like I wanna

28:51

Today process because right now whenever I

28:53

want a nice finish it's usually like

28:56

one code of poly or blends that

28:58

a come up with a day for

29:00

over five days. Sometimes I

29:02

just want to move on to the next thing and

29:04

it only gets one or two coats. And

29:06

that that shows after a while. So

29:08

I went down this whole rabbit hole

29:11

of okay, like if I get boiled

29:13

linseed oil, what our residents and dryers

29:15

that I could add to it. And

29:18

basically the only drain agents

29:20

that are. Available

29:22

as the stuff it's It's

29:25

basically magnesium and. Cobalt.

29:27

Which you can get in the stuff called Japan

29:29

Dryer and I'm a few guys have ever heard

29:32

of Zip Japan Dryer. So

29:34

this is a have as it's

29:36

I'm. You

29:38

can add it to oil based paints it

29:40

as the world's oil and it. Freely.

29:43

Increases the drain time. Oil

29:45

dries not by. Evaporation

29:49

but it dries by oxidation so

29:51

is in creases at speeds. So

29:53

I got some of that and

29:55

plane was implemented. Oil and I'll

29:57

like. This does work but I.

30:00

It the Japan drive just smelled like

30:02

cancer. So then it's

30:04

like are I'm going to I went

30:06

down this you drive a horse. Okay,

30:08

I want to avoid cancer as much

30:11

as possible and. I. Went on

30:13

his religious I wanted to see how

30:15

this I want to spend it would

30:17

be so drinkable I like I have

30:19

one egg you should be able to

30:22

eat this and be okay and so

30:24

I found some. so this linseed oil

30:26

which is all natural and then they

30:28

that it's boiled and then most companies

30:30

will add some drain agents to. That's

30:32

as I found some boiled linseed oil.

30:36

Ah, The. Is a the boiling?

30:38

It's not really boil, this is heated

30:40

up over time. That process allows it

30:43

to drive faster when when use. So

30:45

I found some boiled linseed oil without

30:47

any editors whatsoever and I added some

30:49

select to her. I'd play with a

30:52

whole bunch of different ratios of salac.

30:56

And of ethic. I have the formula

30:58

down for that first scope. So.

31:00

I don't have any x dinesen so

31:02

it still takes like twelve to fourteen

31:04

hour strikes. And. When

31:07

I say dry, I mean tried to the touch

31:09

oil actually. Takes. Maybe.

31:11

Weeks to fully cure and then so

31:13

now I'm working on that that wax

31:15

financial for top of that. And so

31:17

I've been. Keeping track like I

31:20

like a diary are like and journal of

31:22

what I'm doing but I haven't been so

31:24

minutes it will be a video but I'm

31:26

not pursuing this for video this is like

31:28

I'm doing this and just for me to

31:30

try to find a to the process that

31:32

looks amazing that works. And. And

31:35

with the way I work and I've

31:37

been really happy so this the stereo

31:39

stand as the first project to use

31:41

that that son isn't and coming up

31:44

was and. I. Think next

31:46

month when I'm done with my

31:48

experimentations. Our out. Of Posts.

31:50

A formula up online. whom.

31:54

I know you're going. I know what you're going to say knows you're gonna say.

31:57

But. You put in. Science.

32:00

time to figure out the formula.

32:03

This is a product that you could sell

32:05

to serve people like you

32:07

with a very specific solution to

32:10

a problem. Is there a

32:12

reason why you wouldn't pursue turning that into

32:14

something that could be manufactured by somebody else

32:16

and sold as your product? Yeah, a couple

32:18

things. I don't want

32:20

to be support. I don't want to

32:22

be support for somebody else trying to

32:24

apply for anything, answering questions and stuff

32:26

like that. I think, I

32:32

suppose I could find somebody else to manufacture

32:34

it. It's trying to, I think

32:37

to do it right is to find

32:39

raw linseed oil, which comes from flaxseed,

32:43

then go through the heating process, which

32:46

is some places do

32:48

it for 40 hours, some places do it for

32:50

a couple weeks, and then

32:53

taking that and then getting

32:55

the mixture of that. But I don't know.

32:58

Even the shellac, I

33:01

went crazy with this. Even

33:03

the shellac, normally you mix

33:05

shocked flakes with denatured

33:08

alcohol. I went to

33:10

the liquor store and got Everclear and

33:13

I'm mixing my flakes with Everclear. I'll

33:16

go over the reasons why

33:18

in the video. So even

33:20

the shellac part of this

33:22

is drinkable and everything

33:24

is all natural. Everclear

33:28

is drinkable in quotes. Yeah,

33:31

yeah, yeah. It's

33:33

funny. So when I went to the liquor store to get

33:35

Everclear, on the shelf

33:37

they had 75% Everclear and I needed 95% and the 95% is

33:39

just pure grain alcohol and

33:46

the rest of it is water. And

33:48

I asked like, hey, do you have the 95%? And they're like,

33:52

yeah, come on into the back. And I had to

33:54

go into the back room and This

33:56

has probably has to do with like Ohio laws,

33:58

but I had to fill out. The piece of

34:00

paper saying who I am. My.

34:02

Address why I'm using this and

34:04

sinai the guns and such. Yeah

34:07

and sign of thing saying this

34:09

is not for human consumption. Whoa.

34:12

Yeah I said so this crazy laws

34:14

as in Ohio for ninety five percent

34:16

of for I don't know why anybody

34:19

else would buy it. Would

34:21

you would buy it for? but yeah, the

34:23

sign, all this paperwork say no I wouldn't

34:25

use. As for. Make. And

34:28

drinks so ah, and then than the

34:30

wax Venetian I'm working on. Ammo.

34:33

Ah Aman version two and

34:36

a Still not quite right,

34:38

but it's all our new

34:40

bill Wax Beeswax and hum.

34:43

Citrus. Oil. Based

34:46

the that is pure citrus oil and

34:48

a little bit of. Boiled

34:51

Linseed Oil. So I'm I'm working on this formula

34:54

and will to go on a cell. It. Because.

34:58

It's. Actually pretty easy to make as and get system

35:00

better for me to see somebody else had of make

35:03

it. Yeah. Yeah.

35:05

I under the reconsider assess the reason I'm

35:08

asking and I'm gonna push back. Not that

35:10

you have to listen to me at all,

35:12

but to encourage you. I think I think

35:14

you. I

35:17

struggle with finding a problem that I can

35:19

build a solution for for other people who

35:21

isn't. I. Wish that I can

35:23

identify those problems. All of the things

35:25

that I solve are very specific to

35:28

me. sale and so I think you

35:30

haven't. You have a thing there were

35:32

you put in a lot of experimentation

35:34

research. And you have

35:36

a solution for a problem that is not

35:38

just you, it is for. Woodworkers,

35:42

I think the. The support,

35:44

end of it and manufacturing and of it even

35:46

the marketing and and end of it could be

35:49

done completely out of your hands on think they

35:51

should be right? And that's not the thing that

35:53

you wanna get married. you buy it in. The

35:55

reason that this is. It like

35:58

triggered my. interest is because

36:00

I was thinking a couple of weeks ago

36:02

about somebody was making

36:04

some soap or something. I

36:06

don't remember exactly what the scenario was, but it was the

36:08

same kind of thing where you have to like experiment

36:11

with mixtures and you're getting these raw materials

36:13

and you're trying to find the right formula

36:15

for this, whatever it was. And

36:18

I thought like, how do you know, say

36:24

you wanna make, I don't know,

36:26

a floor cleaner, and it's

36:28

just like some

36:30

person makes their own floor cleaner.

36:33

How do you get started with material

36:36

science and chemistry to

36:38

be able to get the elements that you

36:41

need to mix the thing? And then once

36:43

you find the formula for

36:45

the perfect solution for your problem, what

36:48

do you do with that? Where do you take that? How do

36:50

you get somebody to make that? How do

36:52

you, you know what I mean? Like we buy

36:54

cleaners and stuff all the time that

36:57

were developed by somebody in

36:59

a lab somewhere, not probably somebody at home, but they

37:01

were developed and there's

37:03

gotta be a process for each of us if

37:05

you have a solution for a problem like that

37:07

to be able to get it from experimenting

37:10

in your garage to manufactured

37:13

and sold. And when you

37:15

look across Instagram, especially with like,

37:17

there's a lot of kind

37:21

of natural based like deodorants

37:24

and shampoos and like body products and stuff

37:26

that are being developed by small companies. And

37:28

I'm like, those people have to source

37:31

the stuff to mix the thing, define the

37:33

thing, and then they figure out how to

37:35

sell it. It's very complicated to get it

37:37

right. That whole process seems wild to me.

37:39

I think you have the beginning of that

37:42

done is the reason I'm bringing it up.

37:44

You have the first part of that whole

37:46

confusing process pretty much

37:48

done, you know. I think there are, I also

37:51

don't know that there's a market for that

37:54

because there are hundreds

37:57

of off the shelf products. You can just go

38:00

by and they will work perfect

38:02

for 99% of the

38:04

people out there. I

38:07

want mine to be in

38:09

just all natural, all

38:12

plant-based. You could

38:15

drink it and not die. You

38:17

can touch it with your hands

38:20

and you could easily do

38:22

that now. You could

38:24

go get some tung oil, put

38:26

it on top of something, let

38:29

it dry and then go get

38:31

some, you

38:34

could put a coat of shellac on there which is

38:36

all natural. You can get your own ever clear and

38:38

mix that and then

38:40

you could just get some beeswax and

38:42

put it over top of that like.

38:44

Yeah but that's three steps. You already

38:46

broke it down, you already made it

38:48

better and as someone who always only

38:50

puts one coat of finish, I don't

38:52

care the situation. I don't care if

38:54

it's our living room table, dining room,

38:56

dining room table, dining room table. I'm

38:59

still lazy enough to only put on one coat

39:01

man. So if there is a solution that was

39:03

all natural that I knew was food safe, I

39:06

buy it. I'm not the only one, I guarantee it.

39:10

Something to think about. Not to pressure you but I'm pressuring you.

39:14

Dave's never gonna make it. I know.

39:16

It's also like I'm ready for the

39:18

pushback in the beginning of the video of

39:20

people saying yeah you can already buy all

39:23

the stuff off the shelf or there are

39:25

already articles and blogs and forums and YouTube

39:28

videos saying here's the ratio that

39:30

you should use. We'll see. But

39:32

all of us are proof that yeah you can just go

39:34

buy a table, you can go buy

39:37

a stool. It's all about the personal experience, the

39:39

personal learning. You can go buy a treasure

39:41

chest made out of a log that has a skull on

39:43

the front of it but you can also make your own.

39:45

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like we are that person

39:49

that can do it but

39:52

yeah I don't know man I think you got

39:55

an opportunity there. To Get

39:57

somebody else to do this with your idea. I'm

39:59

not saying. And like you should start mixing the

40:01

stuff and home and selling it at a bottle though

40:03

that took your car. But like. He I.

40:05

Think you have a thing? they're. A

40:08

solution. In and

40:10

I'm excited about this for you because this is

40:13

the kind of solution than I've been trying to.

40:15

Ike I want to have. the solution to somebody

40:17

problem isn't really badly I wouldn't I would love

40:19

to be able to solve some buddies problem and

40:21

a sound like you can handle and. And

40:24

under and like a metallic and

40:26

and anybody out there who can

40:28

put me in the directions for

40:31

somebody who could manufacture. This

40:33

two step process. And

40:35

the My way. Now. So

40:39

one of the things I've been, I don't want

40:41

to give the idea way, but. One.

40:43

Of the reason said, this has been on

40:45

my mind that the material science and the

40:48

things is good. I had this idea based

40:50

on. There. Is some kind

40:52

of sports medical material that my

40:55

kids have come in contact with.

40:57

Soccer in on. I see the

40:59

sports medicine people around using different

41:01

things and I had an idea

41:03

for a. A

41:05

more sustainable way to do some of the

41:08

medical stuff. And. It's just

41:10

a matter of finding the right materials and

41:12

then being able to. Use

41:15

different materials to manufacture the same

41:17

sports medicine stuff. And

41:20

that was when I was calm. like yeah, but

41:22

like had he. Had any

41:24

find? You. Know. Like.

41:27

How do I find somebody that grows

41:29

bamboo or whatever and a way that

41:31

I could then convert into this? You

41:33

know, like I have the general idea,

41:35

but I have no idea about getting

41:37

the correct materials and being able to

41:39

even test manufacture this stuff to see

41:41

if it works. So it's It's one

41:43

of those things where I have a

41:45

a sink. A pretty good idea that

41:47

again is a sustainability thing. It's like

41:50

it's not can be the cheapest option

41:52

is not going to be the one

41:54

that ninety percent of the people go

41:56

for. but I know. My wife if

41:58

she was buying to materials. And.

42:00

She saw one, it was sustainable, one it was not.

42:02

She would buy the sustainable and even if it was

42:04

more expensive. And. So I know

42:07

that there's a market for that kind of a thing. But.

42:11

I don't even know with my idea, I don't know

42:13

how to even. Like.

42:15

Start down the finding the right stuff

42:17

to work with pass. Them.

42:21

And aren't even know who to talk to about. Figuring

42:23

out how to get started? missing on I'm not

42:25

sure. How. That materials, the

42:28

material stuff works. It's one thing to

42:30

design something. It's another thing to

42:32

be able to source materials that are not

42:34

Mds and not plywood and not things that

42:36

we use on regular basis. You

42:39

have any experience with that Jimmy is that

42:41

the I'm sitting here thinking I have a

42:43

my days in the toy business. We always

42:45

had Food Scientists costs. There were products that

42:47

work that we worked on that had to

42:49

with Tandy and that's it was talking about

42:51

When I was experimenting I was really just

42:53

experimenting with the instructions of kids. Like a

42:55

say. We did a lot a lot with

42:57

this one company I work for. We did

42:59

a lot of licensing partnerships with European companies.

43:02

We were lot of European products America and

43:04

some of them were Food Bay so was

43:06

up to me to experiment with since the

43:08

products that come. With it or a lot

43:10

of them were go get this candy and

43:12

then use this device to make molds or

43:14

whatever. But there were a couple of guys,

43:16

there was a couple of food science is

43:18

that we dealt with. That. Dell specifically

43:20

they would they deconstruct pop tarts and

43:22

stuff like that and figure had it

43:24

is easy bake oven chemistry, all that

43:27

side the stuff. So there is a

43:29

very big food science thing and these

43:31

guys also worked. They worked in the

43:33

toy business to the also worked in.

43:35

I would say product. That. Necessarily choice

43:37

but or food related stuff. Did you

43:39

just mentioned Pop tarts? Yes,

43:42

Fab Would we learn as morning? That's

43:44

why the A Million forgot the inventor of the

43:47

pump turn Castaway Carry on. Do we know his

43:49

name? Ah, I can look enough, but I don't.

43:52

Seal Pups are smith! Mister Mister

43:54

Tart. but

43:59

there are I can reach out

44:01

and find people if I need to. My brother Joey is still in

44:03

touch with a lot of these type of people. William

44:06

Post. His name was William Post. William Post. Oh.

44:08

William Post. Oh, when it says Post Cereal. Yeah,

44:10

Post. Yeah. No doubt. I don't know.

44:12

I'll find out. Yeah. But the,

44:16

if you're looking to deconstruct products

44:19

that are not injection moldable like liquid,

44:21

fat, liquid, not necessarily food related, but

44:24

let's say for instance, a hand cream,

44:26

what goes into a hand cream. There's

44:29

got to be people,

44:32

obviously there are people, but there's got to be people in our audience

44:34

is what I meant to say that could help us

44:36

with that. Help one of us with that. Yeah.

44:39

And I mean, I guess it's a matter of,

44:41

you know, we could always reach out to like

44:43

some small business that is creating some sort of

44:45

a liquid something. I was making the soap. It was

44:47

just a licensing deal. These guys make

44:49

soap and coffee for all the big YouTubers and I

44:52

wasn't big enough to sustain a living with it. We

44:55

made a little bit of money, but it wasn't worth it. But

44:57

they had all types of formulations for making

44:59

the soap. And I said I wanted something

45:01

with a grid in it. And because it

45:03

was manufactured in a way where it was poured into

45:05

molds, I got, after we decided to

45:07

start making it, I got this giant box that weighs 400

45:09

pounds. And then it was 10 rubber

45:12

molds for my soap. It

45:14

was all made by pouring

45:16

this liquid

45:19

soap into these things and then

45:21

it calcified and became hard. And

45:24

I wanted soap with grit in it. And the grit was

45:26

always on one side because it was all poured in with

45:28

the stuff and it was settled to the face of the

45:30

mold. So the grit was always on one side,

45:32

which was kind of annoying to me. But

45:34

to get more complicated would have been more of an investment. We

45:37

were all weren't sure it was worth it. But

45:41

those people, I mean I can get you in touch with those

45:43

people. They make soap and they have all different, they're like we

45:45

could make up all different types of soap for you. And they

45:47

gave me 10 samples and I picked one that I liked. So

45:51

there's another type of science and stuff. But

45:53

it comes with non-tangible

45:55

stuff. Yeah. And

45:58

there's all sorts of categories and stuff. stuff around this

46:00

that, you know, require different things. And

46:03

so I know it's not a simple thing, but watching, there's

46:06

a channel that my wife and I watch called

46:09

Wild Wonderful Off Grid. And it's this

46:11

couple in West Virginia, and they built

46:13

their own A-frame house, and they're building

46:15

like another house on the back of

46:18

their A-frame. They renovated a cafe,

46:21

and they started this cafe. They do all sorts

46:23

of stuff. But in this new cafe, they

46:26

started selling candles. So

46:28

they have several videos of them. You

46:31

know, like they're buying wax pellets. They

46:33

have these big bins. They're melting and

46:36

formulating these different smells. They're pouring all

46:38

of their own candles like

46:40

hundreds at a time. They're shipping them

46:42

out from there. And

46:46

that was one of the things, and this was several weeks

46:48

ago when they started announcing this stuff. They sold all of

46:50

them right off the bat, probably

46:52

to people that want to support them more than just like

46:55

handle people, whatever. But

46:59

the fact that they were taking raw

47:02

materials, very simple raw

47:04

materials, but they figured out to get the smells that

47:06

they wanted to get. They figured out what oils they

47:09

needed to add. They got

47:11

the process down to where the two

47:13

of them, a couple of friends and

47:15

their kids can make hundreds of candles

47:17

in an afternoon in-house and

47:19

then ship them from there. You

47:22

know, that was a pretty good example of

47:24

kind of like a low bar way to get into

47:26

something like that, I think. It

47:28

was interesting to watch. I mean,

47:30

I worked in a candle store, so I have a little

47:32

experience there as well, but it

47:35

was kind of one of those like, oh yeah, people can

47:38

make stuff like that. You can mix things

47:40

and then sell things. It'd

47:42

be different if you were gonna eat the candle probably. So

47:48

I think there's opportunity for stuff there. I just don't really

47:50

know where to start. But

47:54

that's me. Another

47:56

thing, another way to approach, say for instance, if you

47:58

wanted to do a candle. is to not

48:03

necessarily think of the formulation of it, but think of the

48:05

product of it. A

48:07

wacky example is there's an artist, I

48:10

can't remember his name, it'll come to me, but he makes,

48:12

this is art, by the way, this isn't, but you could

48:15

re-engineer it to be a product. He

48:18

makes full-scale human-sized candles of him

48:21

and people he knows, Urs

48:24

Fisher, and then part of

48:26

the gallery show is the candle melts down. So

48:28

it's not necessarily a formulation of

48:31

wax, it's just the 3D object of a human

48:33

being, that is a candle, and you like the

48:35

thing at the top of the head and throughout

48:37

the gallery show, the entire

48:40

body melts away. And

48:42

then the body melts down through the

48:44

middle of the body and half the

48:46

body says, it's this decomposing study of

48:48

wax. It's

48:51

interesting. So it's always curious to see, like

48:55

making an object out of wax, as opposed to making

48:57

the wax the product, is that what I mean? The

48:59

wax is incidental to what the object is. So there's

49:01

other ways of looking at products like that. Yeah,

49:04

I think the candles that I made when

49:08

I was in college at the store, I made the cores

49:10

for these, but they went into those fancy

49:12

shops where they have a bunch of different colors

49:14

and they carve down and fold down pieces of

49:16

the wax to make it look like flour and

49:19

ornate. Yeah, so it was that kind of a

49:21

thing. But then I saw, I don't know, several

49:23

months back on Instagram, and

49:25

artists who used that same process, but they did it

49:27

with, the

49:30

one I saw was a, the

49:32

core of it was a skull. And

49:34

so they dipped the skull in a bunch of different

49:36

colors and then they went back and carved out the

49:39

eye sockets and all

49:42

the detail stuff. And so you had

49:44

multicolor layers to get all of

49:46

the definition of a skull. It

49:49

ended up looking like kind of a day

49:51

of the dead kind of skull. Lots of

49:53

bright colors and everything, but the outside layer

49:56

of it was white-ish. And So

49:58

it was really, really cool. but definitely

50:00

an art piece more than a. You

50:03

know, like make your house smell good. I

50:05

can't even imagine what that was Malik he

50:07

of wouldn't want to burn that when. But

50:09

anyway, the others different purposes for stuff like

50:12

that and I think the. Art.

50:15

Products are like home decor.

50:19

End of It is less

50:21

appealing to me than the.

50:24

Solving. A problem for people. You.

50:26

Know like. A does a really would

50:29

like to figure out how to solve a problem for people.

50:32

As a product. And and and on what that

50:34

is, it. Ah,

50:38

I've been working on several

50:40

things. Nothing. Terribly interesting.

50:43

Have like three videos gunnery now

50:45

which is very confusing to keep

50:47

track of footage and. What?

50:49

I need to accomplish on any given day.

50:51

You know, because assists like. I.

50:53

Got up and we're trying to edit one were

50:56

trying that we missed last week and their videos

50:58

coming out this week and returned to finish that

51:00

when know it's just. A. Lot

51:02

to gain. It.

51:05

Back and forth in the shop, do and do

51:07

lots of different prompts. Plastic

51:10

stuff and thirty printing and. But

51:12

servants, furniture, Have.

51:15

Been doing. Nothing.

51:18

Terribly interesting as way I just finished by

51:20

the way ipo make the sufficient to do

51:22

that so sending the beginning but I just

51:24

finished. Last. Night. Fifty.

51:27

Three whiskey boxes and they have really ship Namibia have

51:29

shown to their disagree with fifty three whiskey boxes and

51:31

people keep asking me why am I making the whiskey

51:34

box is? what is the point of it going to

51:36

be at a retail shop? Where can I buy one.

51:39

In the clarification or that is these whiskey

51:41

boxes will go to floggers. When.

51:43

People talk about whiskey whiskey influences.

51:46

So. Bullet is putting

51:48

out a single malt. In

51:50

a new bottle New colored bottles. It's

51:53

the same shape as a seven hundred

51:55

and fifty movie. The bottle and they

51:57

will package bottle and send it to

51:59

some. The like us but in their category. And

52:02

new. Open it up and Geico to our

52:04

with it. As beautiful as dummies. Whiskey physicists.

52:06

Yeah, Asia, it's it's going be it's it's

52:09

a bullet. Bourbon single malt is what it

52:11

is. What it says. Got a new label

52:13

in the bottles? get a new color. It's

52:15

all recycled. The bottles all from recycled glass

52:17

or sectors. Vague. It's the

52:19

classic bullets seven hundred and sixty milliliter bottled.

52:21

but it's Cats is like greenish love to

52:24

it because it's it's all recycle glass. It's

52:26

like the multitude of different colors mix together.

52:30

And the box I'm making is all

52:32

from recycled materials. Ninety

52:34

percent of the Sixty Three boxes are

52:36

made from. An

52:39

old sense that I recovered. Have.

52:43

Some. Schools and I ran out of a little bit. It would

52:45

have to go to the sawmill and get some old gray with. Some.

52:49

Mrs than just steal somebody sense of easier

52:51

fi i could have a should have as

52:54

what happens when I need. Since

52:56

it's just think it is, I use leather

52:58

as something of an interesting way to make

53:00

the hardware. so I used leather because it's

53:02

all recycled. When I told the guys the

53:05

letter was recycled from my leather bag business

53:07

them as old as really cool to build

53:09

homes are recycled Ssds, the hinges a made

53:11

out a leather and that the locking devices

53:13

me. That alone when you said you're making

53:15

furniture reminded me those incentive. To

53:17

move to cut you off. Know. Situation.

53:21

I. Got I got nothing else far. Do

53:23

we have a an update of the

53:25

answers to compare? Notes:

53:29

mission sort of satellite like Bob's

53:31

engine repair and then if is

53:33

ratios know if this you updated

53:36

as video next week know up

53:38

to zero used to be this

53:40

website Ah is a big go

53:42

to allies as assistant smear campaigns

53:44

Ah yes until one day a

53:46

sudden and. ah

53:49

we talk about him recently where we the

53:52

ones it's not the bonus don't think so

53:54

i had a conversation about him somewhere somewhere

53:56

recently and will almost and i'm a nebulous

53:58

the private conversation with What is a

54:01

pagoda known for? Barney Miller,

54:03

right? But is there other things?

54:06

He was in Barney Miller, then there was a TV

54:08

show, Fish. He was in

54:10

the Godfather. Oh,

54:12

that's right. He wasn't the Godfather.

54:14

And Fish was an offshoot of

54:16

Barney Miller, right? Yeah,

54:19

it was a spinoff where him and his

54:21

wife, Bernice, I remember this clearly, they were

54:24

taking foster kids from the New York foster

54:26

care system. So the house was always full

54:28

of cast of characters. There was

54:30

an interesting story plot because they could always switch people out

54:32

really quickly. If the character wasn't working, they were just

54:34

moving through the house. These are

54:37

not shows that I watch. These are shows that

54:39

my parents watch, and I did not like it

54:41

when they watched these shows. Yeah,

54:44

I'm your parent's age. That

54:47

is not true. Wait,

54:50

can we clarify how old everybody is?

54:52

Sure. Can we do

54:54

an age check-in? I'm going to be 57 in

54:56

April, so that's in two months. I'm 48. I

54:59

think. I'm 46. Yeah. All

55:02

right, so you guys are both 10 years younger than me, so

55:04

yeah, it's surprising that you guys didn't see Fish. Yep,

55:08

didn't see that one. Sorry. Well,

55:12

I'm going to thank our Patreon

55:15

supporters, and then you

55:17

guys can scramble to find something to recommend. Big

55:20

thanks to everybody over Patreon that supports

55:22

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55:25

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55:28

there's a bunch of different levels you can support at.

55:30

Some people get their name in the show notes. Some

55:32

people get shoutouts, which I'm going to do

55:34

in just a second. But everybody gets

55:36

The After Show, which is more

55:39

of us just talking. Last week was fun. Jaco was

55:41

on, and... Obviously,

55:43

you heard that probably. But The After Show, we

55:45

talked about product stuff. And

55:49

other things. It was fun. Big thanks

55:51

to the top supporters over there, though

55:53

we are really grateful for Nick Ryan,

55:55

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55:58

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56:00

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56:03

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56:06

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56:08

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56:10

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56:12

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Join at any level and help out

56:30

the show. We would appreciate it. Yeah,

56:35

that. You guys got something

56:37

cool to recommend? I've been

56:39

watching. I just looked through my history and I didn't realize how

56:41

many videos I've been watching. And

56:43

I just mostly listen to them because I'm always working.

56:45

I listen to them on my podcast. There's this channel

56:47

and I'll send it to you guys called The Pilot

56:49

Debrief. It keeps popping up. And it's

56:52

all about accidents.

56:54

But it's done very clinically. The

56:58

host of the show, the host of

57:01

the channel is a former F-15 fighter

57:03

pilot. Very technical.

57:05

He goes through. So

57:07

this channel is only really, really to teach

57:09

other pilots the things that the technical, small

57:11

little things that can go wrong when planes

57:13

crash. Not everything ends

57:15

in complete disaster. It's

57:18

all these documented stories. And it's popped up

57:20

because a few months ago,

57:22

maybe in the summer, a YouTube

57:24

pilot died. She

57:26

crashed with her and her father. And she learned how

57:28

to fly in the last year and a

57:30

half. And then she would record

57:33

herself flying. And he went through some of

57:35

her videos where a lot of them had taken down now. But

57:37

she made lots and lots of mistakes flying. And

57:40

he said she should have focused more on flying and less on trying to

57:42

make the video because a lot of times she's like, Oops,

57:44

I forgot this. Oops, I forgot that. And then

57:46

unfortunately she passed away. I think it's Tennessee Flygirl

57:48

was her name. It's kind of been in the

57:50

news a little bit. And because I

57:52

watched that, now I've been being fed

57:55

this guy's stuff. And it's really interesting. I never

57:57

want to fly. Ever. I

58:00

don't want to be at the controls of a plane that completely does

58:02

not interest me But it is intriguing

58:04

all the technical aspects and a lot of times

58:06

he even says this person should not have gotten

58:09

a license They should have been they

58:11

should have been somebody the teacher should

58:13

have said you're not qualified to fly When

58:17

he goes through the and everything he does

58:19

is usually NTSB It's

58:21

all stuff. That's he does

58:24

proper documentation. You know,

58:26

he's not just making his own assumptions He's

58:28

going through the NTSB investigations of certain Caroline

58:31

and it's mostly old just small engine. Most

58:33

are sure it is interesting to me. So might be

58:35

interesting to you Cool

58:39

pilot debrief, okay What's

58:43

got David so mine is There's

58:45

two and I watched them back

58:47

to back and they kind of fit together

58:51

If you have Paramount Plus, there's

58:53

a documentary called thriller 40 so

58:55

it's 40 years after Michael Jackson's still came out

58:58

and Interviews

59:01

a lot of the musicians some current musicians

59:03

who they um how they

59:05

have affected their lives and

59:09

So after that I watched

59:11

the show on Netflix called

59:15

The greatest night in pop which was

59:17

all about the making of we

59:19

are the world if you guys remember that

59:23

Oh, yeah, I heard about this on another

59:25

podcast. It's really interesting. Yeah, and so both

59:27

of these were Produced

59:31

by Quincy Jones and it really just

59:34

shows the genius of Quincy Jones And

59:36

so whatever you think of Michael Jackson,

59:38

sometimes you have to separate the art

59:40

from the artist there's

59:43

just some amazing musicianship

59:45

and how These

59:49

both of these Ones

59:51

an album the other ones a song how

59:53

how these pieces of art came together. It's

59:55

just really really good stories and

59:59

Quincy is just amazing yeah

1:00:02

that's true mine

1:00:05

is the newest video by Bobby Duke I don't know

1:00:07

if you guys have watched this but he may be

1:00:09

in it he made him miniature house

1:00:11

like from

1:00:13

the studio Ghibli and now

1:00:16

you say it I always say it wrong

1:00:18

but it's like the Miyazaki

1:00:21

is a director who made a bunch of anime

1:00:23

movies of really famous Totoro and

1:00:26

things like that anyway so he

1:00:28

made a little miniature house diorama

1:00:31

that would fit in that world and

1:00:35

I love Bobby as a person and

1:00:38

then his work just blows my

1:00:40

mind every single he's so the amount

1:00:42

of effort he is willing to put

1:00:45

into the smallest things and

1:00:48

then you watch this video and he just you

1:00:50

know he's like I'm making a little wall and

1:00:52

it's all silly and goofy and he has like

1:00:54

fart jokes and everything and I'm making the wall

1:00:56

and then I'm just gonna make this little tile

1:00:58

thing and then I'm just gonna make individual tiles

1:01:01

out of ceramic for the ceiling it was very

1:01:03

effortless for him it's just he goes so deep

1:01:05

into all the little stuff and I watched it

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with my kids last night and they were just

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like what in the world it's

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so cool man it's so cool I immediately texted him

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was like I don't know how you do stuff like

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that I would love to be able to do that

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kind of detail I just

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I don't I don't know how but it's

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very cool and he's so fun you know so

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anyway go check that one out cool

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you guys got anything else for this week yeah mm-hmm

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I did have something else I forgot what it was

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though that's what they have you remember in

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the after show yeah I'll

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remember cool well thanks

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for listening everybody we'll see you

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next time thank you thank you