Welcome to Season 3 Episode 5 of the Making Photos Podcast. I’m your host, David Sornberger and today we’re going to have a look at the book by Elizabeth Gilbert called, “Big Magic”. Even if you don't think you're a creative person, how can you live your life that's driven more by curiosity than fear? And to do this we’re going to speak with our guest, fashion photographer Illya Ovchar, who I found in Budapest, Hungary.