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Hey, what's up, Runners? It's

1:03

your favorite podcaster, Trevor. Well,

1:05

I don't know if I'm your favorite, but I should be in the top 10,

1:07

maybe. In this episode, we're going to play a live

1:10

recording at the Richmond

1:12

Marathon in Richmond, Virginia with a live

1:14

audience. We had Q&A. We had

1:17

conversation about how to find your

1:19

running community. It was a lot of fun. Big thanks

1:21

to all the folks who came out for this

1:23

live. Angie, my better half,

1:26

wasn't able to go. She actually

1:28

left for a road trip to Montana,

1:31

and she's still traveling. It's just

1:33

me, just me on the mic today. At

1:36

this event, which took place November

1:38

10th, you're going to hear yours

1:40

truly, plus Martinez Evans, who

1:43

we've had on the podcast back in August. He's author

1:45

of the book Slow AF Run Club. Also,

1:48

Lisa Mitro. She's a physical therapy

1:50

doctor, and she's got a huge Instagram

1:53

following at dr.lisa.dpt.

1:56

You'll also hear Cynthia Vissers. She's

1:59

a brand ambassador.

1:59

with AMR, another mother

2:02

runner. She's also a cancer survivor.

2:04

And then you're gonna hear, as the moderator, Lindsey

2:07

Hine with All Have Another Podcast.

2:10

Lindsey did a great job moderating, keeping things flowing,

2:13

and keeping it fun. So, in this panel

2:15

conversation, you're gonna hear our thoughts on how

2:18

you can find your place in the running

2:20

community. We're gonna share advice to first-time

2:22

marathoners. We're also gonna share our favorite

2:24

mantras and the music that gets us pumped

2:26

up on race day. And I even have a

2:28

chance to talk about the early days of podcasting.

2:31

Just to set the scene for you, the Expo

2:34

is always held at the Richmond Raceway, which is

2:36

a pretty cool venue. You park, and then

2:38

you go under this tunnel, and then boom, you emerge

2:40

kind of in the middle of a racetrack. So the stage

2:43

is outside, and it was kinda

2:45

chilly out there, so you'll hear us talk about

2:47

that. But in spite of the cold, we had a good group of

2:49

folks show up, and there's one

2:52

point in the conversation that you're gonna hear, just to kinda give

2:54

you an idea of what's going on. Dr.

2:56

Lisa is standing up and demonstrating

2:59

some moves that you can do to

3:01

warm up when you're in the corral. Lindsey

3:03

kinda put her on the spot to stand

3:05

up and do those moves. So we had a lot of fun

3:07

with that. And then Martinez, being a hilarious

3:10

guy that he is, he makes sound effect noises

3:12

when she's going up and down.

3:14

So that's what's going on there. And

3:16

stay tuned, because after this is over,

3:18

I'll jump back on the mic here. I'm gonna share

3:21

some stories from the rest of my time at

3:23

the Richmond Marathon and some sound bites

3:25

for you. And I'll talk about

3:27

the meetup that we had. So stay tuned for that. Hey,

3:29

and speaking of running community, we'd like to invite

3:32

you to join our community. You can find out how to become

3:34

an Academy member and get access to all of our training plans,

3:37

private Facebook group, courses, and

3:39

more when you visit MarathonTrainingAcademy.com.

3:42

We'd love to connect with you and help you train for your next

3:45

big thing, or small thing, whatever

3:47

you got going on. Let's go ahead and jump

3:49

into the live panel discussion at

3:52

the Richmond Marathon Expo.

4:05

Alright well

4:07

thanks so much for being here

4:09

this weekend on the Alanage Richmond

4:11

Marathon. We are so excited to be here.

4:14

This is

4:14

my first time in Richmond

4:16

and I bought a new coat yesterday and

4:19

I'm like why did I not bring that new coat? Like

4:21

what is wrong with me? But

4:23

today we are going to be talking on the stage about

4:25

finding community in the running

4:28

space.

4:29

My name is Lindsay and I host the podcast

4:31

I'll Have Another With Lindsay Hine. We

4:34

have Martinez Evans here, Flo

4:36

AF Run Club.

4:38

And we have Cynthia Visser who is with another

4:40

mother runner. We have Trevor

4:42

Spencer with Marathon Training Academy. And

4:44

we have Dr. Lisa who is a local

4:47

and she is a physical therapist. So

4:49

today we're talking about finding community in the running

4:51

space which you're all doing because you're

4:54

here right now. And I

4:56

think I'll just kick it off to Martinez.

4:58

How did you find your community in the running

5:01

space?

5:01

I bought my community by

5:04

creating my community right. Historically

5:06

slower runners are not something

5:09

the running community tends to look

5:11

after. You're super fast

5:13

they tend to look after you but if you're in the back

5:15

of the pack they don't necessarily look after you. So I think

5:18

out of frustration I started to

5:20

share my stories, share the

5:22

things I was going through and then other

5:25

people were like hey me too. And I

5:27

was like we're people then, we're friends.

5:30

You want to go run together? It really started

5:32

with me having a problem and then

5:34

going out and solving that problem.

5:36

So I think the question is I always think about

5:38

this. If you show up somewhere and you don't

5:40

feel like you belong, you don't feel included,

5:43

you said you created it on your own, but

5:45

what if you're scared to do that? How

5:47

did you make that happen? What in

5:49

you said I'm just going to do this?

5:52

Is your frustration

5:54

and disappointment in the running community made

5:57

me feel like you know what?

5:59

else is gonna save me so I need to save myself

6:02

so that's where I kind of started that and

6:04

what I used to tell people who are looking to start

6:06

a community just look around look to

6:09

your neighbor look to other

6:11

friends who are in the community and I think the beautiful thing

6:13

about social media is that it shortens

6:15

the world just between the palm

6:18

of our hands so I think that's is where

6:20

you can start your social media and

6:22

then branch out to local to see who's in your local

6:25

area to also help you with that community.

6:28

I would just add it doesn't have to be

6:30

big right it doesn't have to be this big

6:32

massive group

6:34

I was just talking to my friend just in the car

6:36

on the way here and I'm like I'm not super plugged

6:38

into

6:38

a big running group where we live

6:40

but I have like three friends that I run with

6:42

that are really special to me and that right now

6:45

is my community that I'm in person

6:47

with and that's okay it doesn't have to be these

6:49

big massive groups. Talking

6:52

about big groups so another mother runner is a

6:54

big group so Cynthia can you share

6:56

how you stumbled upon them and what you do

6:58

with them? So I

6:59

came across them I

7:01

believe it was when I was pregnant with

7:03

my youngest who is now 13 and

7:07

it started with a little yellow book called

7:09

Another Mother Runner and they had training

7:12

plans in there and I was like wow this

7:14

is really great information and then its

7:16

Facebook page came

7:17

and I was like wow I really

7:19

like these ladies and they

7:21

had a store and they were selling

7:24

merchandise in the store and it wasn't just merchandise

7:26

to be like oh look at this cute little tee look at this

7:28

cute vest look at this cute

7:29

sweatshirt it's so when you're out and about

7:31

you can be like there's another mother runner

7:34

oh my gosh there's one I'm not alone and

7:37

I first

7:37

met Sarah and Demity in

7:40

Annapolis when I decided

7:42

that I was going to run my second half marathon

7:44

in 13 days and I walked up to the table

7:46

and I was like hey guys nice to meet you I've been following

7:49

you I'm kind of a groupie who

7:51

wants to run with me tomorrow. Sarah

7:53

laughed in my face and

7:56

Demity was like I will if

7:58

I can take a video and do a story about

8:00

you and I was like, okay. So

8:03

we ran together and now I'm

8:05

a brand ambassador for them and having

8:07

that community online has

8:10

been really essential for me because

8:12

my husband's now retired but as a military

8:14

family, I was moving. So

8:17

I would find my local

8:19

community, but having that constant

8:22

of my online community has really

8:24

been essential because they've been through

8:26

a lot with me. What

8:29

would you say to someone who's like, I wanna

8:31

be a part of something like that, but they're not,

8:34

like you walked right up to them and you were like, I

8:36

want you to run this half marathon with me. Like

8:39

how do we get over our intimidation there?

8:42

Put on your big girl pants and just do it. That

8:45

part. Oh, that's good.

8:46

No, I mean like

8:48

I had enough guts to do

8:50

that because I had been following

8:53

them online. I had been listening to the podcast.

8:56

I was all in and when I went to that race

8:58

in Annapolis, I

9:01

was like, wow, it'd be really cool

9:04

if I could get one of them to run with me. What

9:06

are they gonna say? No. Okay, they

9:08

say no, I'm still gonna run. Like I had my

9:10

other reasons for really wanting to do this and

9:13

to prove that I could do this. I was still gonna

9:15

love AMR regardless. People are

9:17

gonna tell you no sometimes and you just

9:19

gotta ask anyway.

9:20

No, they're not, they're not gonna tell you no. Can

9:23

I also ask them, Lindsay? I think the other

9:25

thing is they're like, we're all approachable,

9:27

right? I'm approachable and I will talk to you. I will

9:29

talk to you in every situation short of like me walking

9:31

into a bathroom. But

9:34

after I get done, I'm happy to talk and

9:36

I think. Right outside

9:38

the stall. Please don't stand

9:40

outside the stall. But

9:43

after I get done, like I'm happy to speak and I think that's

9:45

true for every community that's out here. We

9:47

are approachable.

9:49

All right, so Trevor, Marathon

9:51

Training Academy launched 12

9:53

years ago, right? Okay, podcasts

9:56

have gotten big over the last five, six,

9:58

seven years, but he's been doing.

9:59

For 12 years so like

10:02

you had a podcast before cereal came out.

10:04

I feel like cereal was the first podcast of all podcasts

10:08

I thought you meant like Captain Crunch Yeah,

10:13

I remember when I first had the idea to start

10:15

a podcast I pitched it to my wife

10:17

because she's a running coach and

10:19

she said what's a podcast? So

10:21

that was a 09 and we

10:24

started in February of 2010 So

10:27

yeah things have kind of really changed over

10:29

the podcast landscape What's cool about

10:31

it now is you don't have to explain to people what a podcast

10:34

is back in the day I used to have to explain that

10:36

to almost everyone I met the growth of

10:38

podcasts Of course is something I could

10:40

talk about what's interesting is Spotify

10:43

didn't start podcasts until 2015

10:46

It wasn't that long ago and now they've

10:48

eclipsed Apple podcasts More

10:51

people listen on Spotify Apple didn't

10:53

start putting a dedicated podcast app

10:56

out there until I think it was 2014 Was

10:58

how recently that was and now every iPhone

11:00

that you get comes with the app already native on

11:03

the phone So having said that though according

11:06

to a little bit nerdy here, but according

11:08

to some statistics I just read only

11:11

43% of Americans have listened to a podcast in the last

11:13

month So it's better than when I started

11:15

it was about 10% Awareness in America

11:18

and around the world has definitely grown but we still have

11:20

a long way to go You know 43% it's not bad,

11:22

but we got a long way to go Yeah,

11:23

you still as a podcaster You do still

11:25

have those people saying like my blogger

11:28

friend. I watch your podcast

11:30

like I hear all of that as a podcaster

11:33

With marathon training Academy though you

11:35

and your wife Angie also coach a ton

11:37

of runners So tell us a little bit about that part

11:40

of your business

11:41

Well talking about running community as soon

11:43

as we launched the show We started hearing from runners

11:45

all over the world and I thought wow people are actually

11:47

listening to us I used to be a pastor

11:50

before that and nobody ever listened to me as a pastor,

11:52

but now people

11:54

were actually taking the tips that

11:56

they'd heard on the podcast and implementing

11:59

them and emailing us about how it worked.

12:02

And so my wife got her coaching certification

12:05

through RRCA and USATF,

12:07

and then she started coaching clients. I'm not a

12:09

running coach. I'm not even that good of a

12:11

runner. So it's all her. I'm kind of like

12:13

the business guy behind the scenes, and I produce

12:15

the show. So she had 50 clients

12:18

and got really burned out and said, here, we need to

12:20

adjust. We need to pivot here. So we started bringing other

12:22

coaches on the team. And it's all about just

12:24

helping people unlock their running potential.

12:26

And I gotta say, we got into the running world

12:29

online, but once you meet these runners in real

12:31

life, these are all people you'd want as your friends and neighbors.

12:34

The running community is super cool. And if you're intimidated

12:36

about putting yourself out there, just know that runners

12:38

are some of the coolest people you're going to find in my experience.

12:42

Yeah, coolest and nerdiest and all

12:44

the things. Dr. Lisa, tell

12:46

us about the community you've created online

12:49

and you are teaching so many

12:51

people how to stay healthy. How did that

12:53

even come about? It actually started

12:55

when I just made an Instagram

12:58

to keep myself accountable for running, and

13:00

realized there was a huge gap in resources

13:03

for runners around the world. I also realized

13:05

there was some really bad information online.

13:08

And it was going to hurt people if they listened

13:10

to it. So I saw that as an opportunity

13:13

and just started creating stuff one thing

13:15

at a time. And then it eventually just

13:18

kind of took off. And it really

13:20

was just, let me see what I can do here.

13:22

And let me just kind of like pass

13:24

the waters a little bit and see if I can just help

13:26

one person, because

13:28

that's really what it came down to, is just

13:30

let me just help one person, get

13:32

one person back to running pain-free or

13:34

prevent an injury. And then that

13:37

definitely helped resonate with my audience. Lisa

13:40

is running her first marathon tomorrow.

13:43

So you've been working with marathoners,

13:45

half marathoners for a really long time, and

13:48

now you get to do it. So

13:50

how has like taking your own advice been?

13:53

Ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

13:55

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Well, it's funny. You

13:58

know, when I entered January 1st, 2023, I

14:01

did not plan on running a marathon at all.

14:03

I actually wrote in my agenda to just run 800

14:06

miles, but you know, what better way to conquer

14:09

that than to do some marathon training. So

14:11

this is not in the plan. I was

14:13

scared to share like the bad parts

14:16

of running because we all know it's not, not

14:18

every run is going to be great. So to

14:20

share like, okay, like that run

14:22

sucked and I'm just going to be honest about

14:25

it and see if it can resonate with someone

14:27

and help someone. So just being honest about

14:29

it. And then also when you share

14:31

something, it's a self-reflection and you

14:33

can kind of think about what you were

14:35

feeling. So that's really how

14:38

it kind of started. Then I got in my head. Well,

14:40

if I can do this, maybe I can run a marathon.

14:43

And then, you know, once it's in your head, it's

14:45

like, Oh, that's all I'm thinking about now. And

14:48

then I started training for

14:50

the marathon without signing up for the marathon.

14:52

So that's another thing. That's

14:56

runner math right there. Yeah. Actually,

14:58

my plan was to sign up for the marathon

15:01

today.

15:02

So did you sign

15:03

up today? No, no, no, no. You haven't

15:05

yet. No, I have. I signed up for it.

15:08

But my plan when I started training

15:10

was I'll sign up the day before, as

15:12

long as training goes well. And I

15:14

remember my friend, she's not even a runner. She was like,

15:16

why you have to

15:18

commit

15:19

to it. It's a marathon. And I was like,

15:21

you're right. Okay. Let me sign up for it and like

15:23

actually mentally commit to it

15:25

versus just, let me just see how it

15:28

goes. But I mean, I was in week four of training.

15:30

I wrote my training plan before I actually committed

15:33

mentally and signed up for it and paid

15:35

the money and everything.

15:37

I feel like we have to do a quick

15:39

round of unsolicited first time marathon

15:42

advice. I'll let you kick it off, Martinez.

15:46

Um, unsolicited first

15:48

time marathon advice, use the bathroom as

15:50

much as possible before it started.

15:52

Noted. Use it often. Uh,

15:55

I don't know how to port a party situation is here,

15:57

but if it's anything like New York city, but.

17:46

So

18:01

first I would say that having

18:03

my healthcare team that is super supportive

18:06

of me running has been super important

18:08

for me, but I've been living with cancer

18:11

for 20 years and being able

18:13

to take time away

18:15

from my family, work,

18:18

which I love and we'll probably

18:20

talk about that later because we're going to a running store, but

18:23

just take time away from everything

18:26

that's just me and it's just

18:28

out on the road with my running shoes and

18:31

I get to process whatever it

18:33

is I need to process. And

18:35

when I'm running with my best friend, sometimes

18:37

we'll talk it through, but just being able

18:40

to process whatever

18:42

health news I had gotten or whatever

18:44

feelings that I'm having about

18:47

it has really been

18:49

helpful over the years and reminding

18:51

myself that, you know what, I've

18:53

had a lot of surgeries, I've had a lot of treatments,

18:56

but I can still do really,

18:58

really hard stuff because I'm a badass

19:00

mother runner.

19:03

I think we need a clap for that.

19:08

Trevor, you're running the half marathon tomorrow. What

19:10

are your goals? What's going on in your head?

19:12

I haven't even thought about it seriously. Half

19:15

marathons are my jam. Once you run

19:18

a full marathon, they'll feel a lot easier. I

19:20

remember how hard that first half marathon was. I

19:23

went from pretty much being a total non-runner

19:26

to getting into running around the same time

19:28

we started our podcast and my

19:30

question I had in my brain was, can I learn

19:33

to like what I hate? And I

19:35

hated to run. I thought it was boring and hard

19:38

and now I love running. I've done 18

19:40

marathons. What I like about a half is

19:42

it's still challenging, but it's

19:45

not the suffer fest that a full marathon is.

19:48

I don't even remember what you asked me though.

19:51

I asked what

19:53

you were thinking, but to me it sounds like you're thinking,

19:56

I'm so glad I don't have to suffer tomorrow.

19:57

I think he's also going to go out really well.

19:59

hard the first time. I'll suffer

20:02

for you. I

20:04

remember last year it was really warm.

20:07

Anybody remember that? It got up to 70 which

20:09

doesn't sound warm. That'd be nice right now but

20:12

on a day where there's no cloud cover it was pretty warm

20:14

and there were some carnage out there on the course and

20:16

I heard from people that got a PR

20:18

in spite of it but I remember I didn't take any

20:21

gels or I forgot all my stuff at home

20:24

and I bonked pretty hard after

20:26

I finished. I've never bonked before. Thankfully

20:28

I finished and I lay down on the ground. I thought

20:30

I was gonna pass out because I didn't

20:32

have I didn't take anything. I didn't have my electrolytes

20:35

with me and I just didn't grab

20:37

enough stuff off the course. So it's a still a respectable

20:39

distance. Still have to respect the distance even

20:41

though it's a half but tomorrow it's gonna be

20:43

a lot easier if the weather stays like this versus last

20:46

year where it was in the 70s and maybe it was in

20:48

the 80s. I don't remember. We'll just make it hotter and hotter. The story

20:50

gets better. It was 90 last year.

20:52

110. Lisa,

20:56

so a lot of people train for

20:58

marathons, half marathons. It's very time-consuming

21:01

and I know it is very easy to

21:03

let strength training fall to the waist.

21:06

So if we want to do like the bare minimum

21:09

but we want to do enough so that we

21:11

don't or we can try to not

21:13

get injured like what are the things that you're like these are

21:15

must do things?

21:17

That's a good question because I think

21:19

the things that you do outside of running doesn't have

21:21

to be a full-time job or even like

21:23

a part-time job because that's not

21:25

sustainable with how much time you're

21:27

committing to your training. So the

21:30

bare minimum strength training two

21:32

times

21:32

a week ideally and then dynamic

21:35

warm-up and post-run mobility. As long

21:37

as you're fueling, you're hydrating, you're sleeping

21:40

and prioritizing rest days then that's

21:43

really all you need. All the other stuff is

21:45

fluff.

21:46

You know like it's in the research like it could

21:48

help. It will be short-term effects.

21:50

So if you think about things that you

21:53

can prioritize that will actually help

21:55

then you realize oh there's not as many

21:57

things as I thought of. It really comes

22:00

comes down to just a handful of things.

22:02

And once you get in a routine, it makes it a

22:04

lot

22:04

easier too.

22:05

Wait, Arcee, you're telling me I don't have to

22:07

do crossfit and telethon

22:10

and yoga and gods

22:12

in the Vroom to Project?

22:13

Or cold bath or

22:15

plunge every day. Do we

22:17

have any ice plunge, cold plunge people

22:19

up here?

22:20

I think we're doing it now. Yeah.

22:22

Yeah.

22:23

Show us your like go to

22:26

move for before you run. You

22:28

pick one move. Somebody's like I will only

22:30

give you one minute before my runs, what are we gonna

22:32

do? So first thing is step

22:34

over. It's pretend like you're stepping over a hurdle.

22:37

Boom, boom,

22:38

boom, boom. If you just got here,

22:41

she's a PT doc by the way.

22:42

Legit. Yeah, I'm not making this up. The

22:45

next thing is step under, so pretend like

22:47

you're stepping under a hurdle.

22:49

Boom, boom. Martina

22:53

says the sound effects, I like it. All

22:55

right, so if you do 10 of those each, that's

22:58

like 45 seconds in, so we have 15

23:00

more seconds.

23:00

Let's do like

23:03

a squat to hamstring stretch. Yurrrr.

23:08

Boom. Yurrrr.

23:11

The minutes up.

23:14

That's good. Give her a hand. Woo. And

23:18

you can do that at the start line. Hey, I'm

23:20

gonna be the start line announcer

23:23

person, so I'm gonna be looking for y'all to

23:25

be doing that. Especially that last

23:27

move, and I'm gonna be looking for Martina to

23:29

get you the sound effects.

23:31

People around you might look at you

23:33

funny, but you'll be great. Yep.

23:35

Hey, quick break to thank our good friends at Prevenex,

23:38

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23:40

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23:42

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23:47

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23:56

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23:58

who've tried it and have benefited.

25:53

what

26:00

are the safe routes, what are the local

26:02

running clubs, what are the local races. But

26:05

our store in particular we are very

26:07

very community focused. It's

26:10

called Feet for Sports in Columbia, Maryland.

26:14

And they are the longest locally owned running

26:16

store in Maryland. But they are

26:18

all about creating community and making sure that

26:20

everybody that walks through that door, whether

26:22

you're a runner, you're a walker, everybody

26:25

who walks in that door, we just want you

26:27

to feel at home. And if you want to stop by and be

26:29

like, hey guess what, I PR'd my race. Hey,

26:32

the shoes that you gave me or

26:34

the shoes that you recommended, I really like

26:36

those. Thank you so much for that. That's

26:38

what I love. When a customer comes back and shares

26:41

with me that something that I recommended for

26:43

them works or they come back

26:45

because they got really great customer service,

26:48

that is the best.

26:49

I want to know how we can, if we're not

26:51

back of the pack runners, how we can support

26:53

back of the pack runners.

26:55

Yeah, so one of the things I say you know is to

26:57

be an advocate. The best thing you can do is be an advocate.

27:00

And one of the ways you can do that is if you

27:02

are a super fast runner here and you go

27:05

and you PR at a 239 marathon,

27:10

do we have any of those people here? Why

27:12

do you usually tell those people, go back,

27:15

like go to the finish line, cheers to people on, like

27:17

go get your stale bagel and

27:21

Wilted Banana and then come on back, cheers to

27:23

people on, get some people some high fives. Because

27:25

it really means a lot, right? And one of the things

27:27

that we have been doing, the Soil and Run

27:29

Club, as of lately, is just going to races,

27:32

hopping on some bikes and like buying

27:34

water and heading out like water and

27:36

bananas on the course for the back of the pack because

27:39

those people need that stuff, right? So I

27:41

would say that's the first step is just become an advocate,

27:44

support the people and just let everybody know,

27:46

like stand up for that back of the

27:48

pack person. Like first, last,

27:50

it's the same distance. So it don't matter how

27:53

fast we got there, we're all still doing it and

27:55

it takes a lot of determination to

27:58

not quit when... everyone

28:00

around you is telling you, oh wow, you should quit.

28:03

Can you tell us a little bit about Project Finish Line?

28:05

Yeah. So Project Finish is something that

28:07

was initiated. I started at New York City and

28:10

it pretty much happened from a young lady

28:12

that was upset that she

28:14

finished the race. There was nobody there.

28:17

She cried at the finish line by herself and she

28:19

was like, you know what? Nobody else should have to experience

28:22

this. So every year, ever since

28:24

then, I think this happened three or four years ago. We

28:27

throw a big party at the finish line

28:29

of New York City. So, last

28:31

weekend we was there until about 11 o'clock,

28:33

welcoming in the final finisher. And

28:36

it's just the opportunity to support and

28:38

celebrate everybody who's on the course so

28:41

that everybody feels welcome. Because like I said,

28:43

it's hard either way, but it's super

28:45

hard to be on your feet for 10 or 11 hours

28:48

and then you get there and there's nobody there

28:50

or no metal, no finish line, no lights.

28:53

So we're there to help support those people.

28:56

And I do appreciate having the backing

28:58

of New York Roadrunners to also keep

29:00

the finish line open and just keep the party

29:02

going.

29:03

When we were working the finish line of a recent

29:05

marathon, there was a group of women who

29:08

finished their race, went back to the hotel, got

29:10

their sweatshirts on, came back down and

29:12

they had a gift for the last finisher.

29:15

And they said, every race we do, we

29:17

bring this gift package and we

29:19

just wait for the last finisher to cross the finish line

29:22

because they are sort of back of the

29:24

packers. And they're like, we have time

29:26

to go back. We get our bag and we come. And I'm like, that is such

29:28

a good idea. Uh, tell us your

29:30

mantra. You tell yourself

29:33

when you

29:33

are in the middle of a race and you're like, why

29:36

did I do this to myself again?

29:38

All right. This mantra is probably the most

29:40

inappropriate thing, but there's a song

29:43

by a rapper called

29:45

Sexy Red. And the song goes pound

29:47

town. I'm going to pound town. So,

29:51

um, that's, wait, I didn't hear that. What

29:53

was that? It's called pound town.

29:56

I'm going to pound town. I

30:01

told you it was going to be inappropriate, but

30:04

it's inappropriate. It

30:06

is. It's one of the things that keeps me going

30:08

when I'm like just in a rut in the run, like

30:11

I'm just giggling to myself, just like pound

30:13

town, pound town, going pound

30:15

town. It's like a pound in the payment.

30:18

So like that's my jam. That's my

30:20

mantra right now. I'm going to pound town.

30:22

Somebody is going to be at mile 22 tomorrow

30:25

and laughing and thinking about

30:27

that and saying it in their

30:28

head. I think all these folks are going to pound

30:30

town. It

30:33

might be me. Put

30:37

that on your Spotify playlist. Get that

30:39

on your playlist. I was

30:41

going to ask you what your pump-up song is. It sounds like

30:43

it's pound town.

30:44

A

30:48

classic pop-up song is till I collapsed

30:50

by M&M, by far one of my favorites.

30:52

Yeah,

30:52

you can't beat it. All right, Cynthia, what you

30:54

got? My mantra? Yeah. I

30:56

think I've got a new one. Because

31:00

mine does not feel nearly as good as yours now. No,

31:04

but like mine actually comes from another

31:06

mother runner. It's

31:07

don't think, just go. Don't think,

31:09

just go. And

31:10

I'll just look. To pound town. That

31:14

works perfectly. Thank

31:16

you so much. Not my new mantra. And

31:19

my pump-up song, I have two. Okay. One

31:21

is it's so

31:23

cheesy and I forgot the

31:25

name of it. Journey.

31:28

Don't stop believing.

31:30

From Rocky. I am the

31:32

tiger. Yes, I am the tiger. I

31:35

believe I forgot the name of that. And then the other one

31:37

is sexy bag.

31:39

Okay. So I think mantras sometimes

31:41

just come to you when you're out there. You never

31:43

know what's going to inspire you or what song

31:45

is going to come to mind when you're out there. The first

31:47

marathon I ever did, my wife paced me. I

31:50

wanted to beat Oprah her time was like 4.29 or something. Didn't

31:53

do it. But my mantra was don't

31:55

let your wife think you're a wimp. Probably

31:58

didn't work. And as far

32:01

as pump up song any heavy metal

32:03

song probably is will do it for me

32:05

like paranoid by black Sabbath I

32:08

mean that song never gets old

32:09

that is like honestly my worst

32:10

nightmare

32:14

What you got Lisa,

32:16

let's see I would say well last year

32:19

it was very hot and so I think I

32:21

wrote on my arm go legs go because

32:23

I wanted to die and

32:25

So this

32:26

year it might be just

32:29

one more step

32:30

And when I say mantra like I just repeated

32:32

until I'm so sick of hearing it that

32:34

I want to think about something else And that usually

32:36

does the trick

32:37

you have a pop-up song yeah I would

32:39

say so I played college softball and this

32:42

song never fails Fall out boy

32:44

my songs know what you did in the dark. That was my walkout

32:46

song So I still like love

32:48

fall out boy or anything Taylor Swift

32:52

Yeah, that was not a good response I Was

32:56

gonna say at least you remembered the name. I got

32:59

a better. I got a better response with black Sabbath.

33:01

I think

33:03

Do I get

33:05

a turn yeah, okay, okay good

33:07

well my all-time favorite Mantra

33:10

is Dina casters define yourself

33:12

I wrote that on my arm when I ran my marathon

33:14

PR and it always is like I don't

33:16

know it means a lot to me and then

33:19

I also like to think about

33:21

water and think about like flowing

33:24

and just reminding myself that I can

33:26

be this like fluid motion and then

33:29

After I asked the song I got really nervous

33:31

and anxious that I wasn't gonna come up with a good one Because

33:34

music is really important to me And then I remembered

33:37

one of my favorite if I'm trying to do like

33:39

a tempo workout or something And I want to run

33:41

faster is sunrise by Childish

33:43

Gambino does anybody know that song put

33:46

it on your playlist No, I'm not

33:48

singing it and also also we already

33:50

had to make this Are rated because

33:52

of your song so like it would make

33:54

it even more

33:54

are rated

33:57

Okay, so we're gonna wrap this and

33:59

let you guys ask questions If you want I just

34:02

want to ask you all at the end of all of

34:04

my podcasts I say what is your message

34:06

to leave with the audience and I wanted to know if any

34:08

of you had a Message that you

34:10

want to leave with the audience before they head off to this

34:12

race tomorrow

34:14

The message I've been writing on

34:16

a lot of people books is that you just got you got

34:18

this.

34:19

It's just simple as that

34:20

My message to you is that if you're

34:23

looking for your community, you're here you

34:25

found it

34:26

I'll tell you that if I can run a marathon Anyone

34:28

can and you're capable of way more

34:30

than you think you are So just keep taking action

34:33

and never limit where running can take you

34:35

I would say mine is to set your goals

34:37

and dreams so

34:38

high that they scare you because you

34:40

really don't know what you can accomplish I

34:43

Would say if you get scared because it hurts tomorrow

34:45

just remind yourself It's just running and you

34:47

got this just like Martina said does

34:49

anybody have questions? I can come out the audience

34:51

with the microphone if you do

34:53

okay. I have a question for Lindsay You've

34:55

been great moderating this and asking us questions.

34:57

You have four boys, right? Yeah, okay

35:00

That's I know you have your hands full. I only have three

35:02

boys and I know how it is. You have a business

35:05

So where do you actually find time to

35:08

train for marathons?

35:09

Oh, I feel like if I didn't train

35:11

then I would feel even more crazy in

35:13

my Wild

35:15

house when lamps break and blinds

35:18

get broken and things get thrown out the window

35:20

I actually right after

35:22

we moved into our house a couple years ago I became

35:25

friends with a couple neighbors and then one of my

35:27

neighbors Tucks that I became friends with text

35:29

me a picture of another neighbor who

35:31

hadn't met me yet And it's a picture

35:34

she took driving by our house and like two of my

35:36

kids are hanging out a window and like throwing stuffed

35:38

Animals in the front yard.

35:39

I'm just giving you a picture of the chaos

35:42

of my house But yeah,

35:43

we I would want to run too if I had a house like that

35:46

We are a wild bunch people

35:48

are in and out of my house is a revolving door

35:50

people are in and out of our house And if it weren't for

35:52

running, I don't know that I could like

35:54

Mentally handle it.

35:56

So I just make time because I feel like

35:58

I have to

35:59

awesome

36:00

Okay, we have a questioner. Hi,

36:01

I appreciate all of you for what

36:04

you're doing. And I've seen a lot of change

36:06

in the running community. And I'm

36:08

curious from really all of you, when

36:10

you look to the future of the running

36:12

community, where do you feel

36:15

we have opportunities for

36:17

growth and development? And do you

36:20

have like, is there anything inspiring you

36:22

to make change as we

36:24

move forward? And what would

36:27

you ask of others in the community as

36:29

far as contributions to that to make us

36:31

even a more inclusive and better community

36:34

as our sport evolves?

36:37

Martinez.

36:38

What? I

36:41

was

36:42

hoping you would just take it.

36:43

Okay, I'll jump

36:45

right on in. I think the first thing

36:48

that really comes to my mind is like just inclusivity

36:51

in the sport of running, right? I think we

36:53

always talk about color, black and white,

36:55

but I think there's a lot of other issues

36:58

where there's gender equality,

37:00

but also like the back of the pack. So I

37:02

really think that one of the things

37:04

that, you know, races can do or race directors really

37:06

can do is really think about how do

37:08

you make these experiences more

37:10

equitable for everybody? Because

37:12

more people in the sport of running is great for everybody.

37:15

It's great for race directors because they race to sell

37:17

out and they make more money. It's great for running brands

37:20

because they have more people to sell their shoes

37:22

to and they're close to. And

37:25

I think it's just great for everybody.

37:27

So I think we're going to have to really make some changes

37:29

because Gen Z is starting

37:31

to have buying power. And if

37:34

brands and race directors don't

37:36

catch up, they're going to fall behind because

37:38

Gen Z don't care about none of this stuff.

37:40

Does anybody else have a? Yeah,

37:42

actually we were talking about this at the

37:45

store this week a little bit in

37:47

relation to how we can be more

37:49

inclusive as a store. And

37:52

a lot of times people think, oh, I can't go to

37:54

a specialty run store. I'm not a 230

37:56

marathoner.

37:58

No, some of my favorite customers.

37:59

are the ones that come in and be like, I

38:02

want to run. And I saw you

38:04

when I

38:04

was driving by and made an illegal U-turn. I

38:07

love that story, by the way, Martinez. Those

38:09

are my favorite customers because they

38:11

are very determined and they want

38:13

to get out the door. But we're

38:15

missing a big opportunity of welcoming

38:18

people of all different

38:20

abilities.

38:22

Okay, so real quick, we just did a couple podcast

38:24

episodes about the history of women's running. And

38:27

we replayed an interview we did with Catherine Switzer

38:31

the book, Marathon Woman. She

38:33

was describing the first Boston marathon

38:35

that she ran, 1967. I

38:38

don't even think they had water on the course. Back

38:40

in the 50s and 60s, the people who ran

38:43

marathons were like super fit, super

38:45

fast. They were kind of really weirdos.

38:47

Everyone thought they were weird because no one runs

38:49

that far for fun. And if

38:51

you read about that era in running, it doesn't even

38:54

sound fun, really. Now,

38:56

races have done a great job of making

38:58

an experience out of a race, like

39:01

making an event fun. And running should

39:03

be fun. Like when did running stop being fun? We

39:06

played as kids, we ran. Actually, running

39:09

is a form of play. It's called movement

39:11

play. So all the things that races

39:13

do so well, like the Richmond Marathon does,

39:15

you'll see tomorrow. The spectators along the

39:17

course, the fun signs, the finish

39:20

line party. I mean, this is

39:22

a real fun thing to do and I think that

39:24

is what's drawing more and more people in because

39:26

running is healthy, it could also be fun. So I

39:28

think we're going in the right direction when it comes to that.

39:31

I think one thing that needs to change, and I

39:33

see this all the time, is that it's just

39:36

become very intense. Like

39:38

going through all the six majors has now

39:40

become a huge goal, which is fine for

39:43

some people, but that's not everyone's

39:45

goal. And even everyone doesn't wanna race

39:47

and that is completely okay. But I

39:50

know when I announced that I signed up for the marathon,

39:53

I cannot tell you how many people asked if I was

39:55

trying to Boston qualify. And I was

39:57

like, what? This is my

39:59

first of all.

39:59

I just

40:00

signed up. Second of all, this is my first

40:03

marathon. Can't I just have fun? Like

40:05

can't I just enjoy the journey? So it

40:08

doesn't always have to be competitive. You

40:10

know, there's people that still just

40:12

want to have fun and it's a competition between themselves

40:15

and they don't want to compare their times to others or

40:17

they don't even want to think about running any

40:19

of the world majors and that is completely okay.

40:22

That's not defining them as a runner

40:24

at all, but I think it's just become

40:26

very very intense in terms

40:29

of running and it needs

40:31

to dial down a little bit.

40:32

Yeah, not to mention that the world marathon

40:35

majors, like that is a very expensive thing

40:37

to do. Like to try to go do all six

40:39

of them. It's very cost prohibitive. I

40:42

want to add to that question is

40:44

a big question and it's an important question,

40:47

but it can be overwhelming, right? Like anything

40:50

that needs to change and it's like something really

40:52

big. So my advice

40:54

and my thoughts are like start small,

40:56

like start in your neighborhood. Like

40:58

if you go running every Friday

41:01

at 7 a.m., just put a Facebook

41:03

message on your neighborhood page or wherever

41:05

it is and just be like, I'm meeting on this corner

41:07

at 7. Every single person in this neighborhood

41:09

is invited. I don't care if you walk the whole thing,

41:12

if you run a 7-minute mile, if you walk a 15-minute

41:14

mile, whatever. We're starting here

41:16

and we're going and we can make really

41:19

small changes that are actually

41:21

big changes because that'll trickle with

41:24

every person that that person then comes in

41:26

contact with. So I think those questions

41:28

can just be overwhelming and you think, oh, I'm just one person.

41:30

I can't do anything, but you can. You can start in

41:32

your community.

41:34

Do we have any more?

41:34

Oh, we got questions. First

41:37

off, this is maybe the best panel I've ever been to. But

41:41

second is I work for sports backers. This

41:43

is, you know, could be a post question, but it's not.

41:45

I promise I have a real point. So I

41:47

have never gotten to do this event because I work

41:50

here. So I do our training teams

41:52

just to get my mileage up. But on a race day, I'm out on the course

41:54

doing a job. And I feel like why I

41:56

think we're America's friendliest, but that is also

41:58

something that being in marketing.

45:59

Well this has been wonderful.

46:02

Thank you so much for braving

46:04

this like chilly weather. Best

46:07

of luck. It's just running.

46:09

Have fun. Be like water.

46:11

Thanks again folks for coming out. Thank you.

46:13

And good luck tomorrow. Thank

46:15

you all so much. This was so fun. We really

46:18

appreciate you all being here.

46:27

All right. Well that's how it

46:29

went down at the Richmond Marathon

46:31

Expo. Hey, if you want to come and hang

46:33

out at a race with Angie and I, the

46:35

next race we'll be at is the Tokyo

46:37

Marathon. So all you got to do is go

46:40

to Japan and you can meet

46:42

us there. We will also most likely

46:44

be at the Revel White Mountains

46:47

Marathon next May. It's happening

46:49

in New Hampshire. Really excited about that. So

46:51

keep that on your radar. And finally,

46:54

we still have three spots left on our

46:56

tour next summer. Our running retreat

46:59

in the Alps. You might remember us talking

47:01

about that on a podcast episode back in

47:03

July. Well we have filled every spot

47:06

for that trip except three. It's a

47:08

nine day trip. We're going to go around the whole mountain. The traditional

47:11

tour de Mont Blanc. Going through three countries

47:13

in the Alps. France, Italy and

47:15

Switzerland. Starting in Chamonix and going

47:18

back to Chamonix, France. So if you

47:20

still want to grab a spot, let us know ASAP.

47:22

Just shoot me an email. Trevor at MarathonTrainingAcademy.com.

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48:53

All right, so the good folks at the Richmond Marathon

48:55

put me up in a hotel downtown. It

48:58

was just a short walk for me to the starting

49:00

line. All right, we're

49:03

excited to be out. We're five seconds

49:05

out. Three, two, one,

49:07

go! We'll

49:10

see you at the finish line.

49:13

So the energy at the start of the race was

49:16

great. The course starts right there downtown

49:18

on West Broad Street. All kinds

49:20

of old buildings, beautiful murals on these buildings.

49:23

There must be a lot of great artists in Richmond. You

49:25

continue out to a park where you go

49:28

around the park and then boom, you head back

49:30

to downtown, go through some nice neighborhoods,

49:33

lots of big cheering sections, official

49:35

aid stations and makeshift aid stations

49:38

where people are giving you bacon and beer. So

49:40

you run on back toward downtown and

49:42

then there's a nice downhill finish

49:45

where you can really step on the gas. But

49:47

you gotta be careful. You don't run too fast

49:49

and not be able to stop. So I was aiming for

49:51

a 2.30 half and I

49:53

finished. My official time was 2.30.08. So

49:56

thankful to get that. I love half marathons.

49:59

I don't stress out. I'm not out there trying to race

50:01

or set a PR when I go do most of

50:03

these. I'm just having a good time

50:08

Okay, Richmond half marathon a little

50:11

more than halfway One funny

50:13

part was there's these people on the sidewalk

50:15

walking their dog and they said

50:18

great job runners And one

50:20

of the runners said great job walkers.

50:23

Everyone laughed is pretty funny Hey,

50:25

I'm at the Post race area

50:28

the finish line of the Richmond marathon

50:30

and I just happened to bump into Chris He's

50:33

actually my accountant and he ran a

50:35

sub 3 hour marathon today. How does

50:37

it feel to run sub 3? It

50:39

feels fantastic Trevor. It feels fantastic I

50:42

appreciate you guys and everything you do with your company

50:44

to help me to get here right now So

50:47

thank you and today you finished in you.

50:49

What was your official time? You know, it was like 257

50:51

something and you were using Our

50:54

three-hour plan, right? I used the

50:56

actually used the 325 plan and

50:59

then I was doing pretty well and then so

51:01

I started talking to coach Nicole and So

51:04

shout out coach Nicole and then we kind

51:07

of modified my plan down to like the

51:09

three because I was doing pretty well Yeah, dude.

51:12

Well super congrats on going sub 3.

51:14

It's phenomenal and hope the rest

51:16

and recovery goes well Appreciate it

51:20

So got back to the hotel and then we

51:22

had an MTA meetup at 4 o'clock at

51:25

a brewery It's the new brewery. I've not been to before was called

51:27

notched actually. It's called three notched

51:30

brewing I want to thank Sarah

51:32

loonberg who is a local for Helping

51:35

me plan the meetup and there's some other

51:37

locals that come every year Greg and Athena

51:40

husband and wife we actually wrote a

51:42

custom training plan for Greg coach

51:44

Abby wrote it because he wanted to improve his time and

51:47

He had success with that. He wrote us later

51:49

that day. He said quote I had a great day

51:52

and I finished in four twelve This

51:54

was ten minutes faster than my 2020 finish

51:56

and my best time in the past four marathons.

51:59

Most important. I felt positive push through

52:01

the challenging parts of the race and finish strong. Your

52:03

coaching and the info you shared were instrumental

52:05

to my success and I am most appreciative.

52:08

Well, thank you for that, Greg. We are stoked

52:11

that you had an awesome race. Just gonna run

52:13

through some more names of folks that came to the meetup

52:15

and I'm doing this for memory, so I apologize

52:17

if I miss anybody. Actually,

52:20

before I do that, at the race expo I got to meet

52:22

Sherry and Jacqueline and Bell

52:25

and then I got to see Lori, who's actually working

52:28

as a volunteer. All right, so back to the meetup.

52:30

I got to meet Janine from Michigan.

52:33

She's actually signed up to go on our

52:35

running retreat and was there at

52:37

the Richmond Marathon, so she ran the half, ran

52:39

it in 148, it was nice to meet her. And

52:42

Jeff Thompson from Virginia, who's

52:44

also going on the running retreat, got

52:46

to meet him in person. And I can tell just by meeting

52:49

Jeff, we're gonna have a great time on the trails out

52:51

there in France. Also got to meet Bill

52:53

Richmond. Everyone had to comment about his

52:55

last name. He's not actually from

52:57

Richmond, but his name is Bill Richmond. Also

53:00

at the meetup was Ellen Heinrich and her husband Matthew.

53:03

Ellen is trained by Coach Carey and

53:05

this was her second marathon. I also got to

53:07

see Becky Moretz. She

53:09

has been an academy member for a while and

53:11

she said, so awesome to meet Trevor at the Richmond Marathon.

53:14

I have run 29 half marathons, but this was

53:17

only my second full marathon and I

53:19

PR'd by almost 10 minutes. And she

53:21

says that it was such a better experience

53:23

than her first full that she's ready to sign

53:25

up for another one. Also at the meetup was Heidi

53:28

Schiller and her husband Brian. Heidi

53:30

is an academy member and this is actually her fourth

53:33

meetup that she's come to. She's a

53:35

frequent flyer at the MTA meetups.

53:38

Then I also got to meet Von Johnson, who's

53:40

been a client for a long time. And then there

53:42

was Mary and Chris from

53:44

North Carolina. Also Kevin Reed

53:46

and his wife and their little son were there. Kevin

53:49

is a client. Later he posted in our group. After

53:52

eight years of listening to the podcast, I finally got a

53:54

chance to meet Trevor and a bunch of people from the MTA

53:56

community this past weekend. He said big

53:58

shout out to coach Steve. for helping him prepare

54:00

for the half and getting a solid plan. He

54:03

finished in 148.12 and that's

54:05

a nine minute PR. So like I said,

54:07

you know, a lot of PRs out there. Got

54:09

to meet a listener by the name of Steve Back.

54:12

He ran a PR in the marathon, finished in 321.35. Also

54:17

Karen and Dan from San Diego, married

54:19

couple that runs together and also another

54:21

husband and wife, I think at least, is Anna

54:23

and Rafael from Puerto Rico. They came

54:25

in to run the half after hearing about it on the podcast

54:28

and also got to meet Angelica from Florida,

54:31

Gary from Michigan and Mike from Iowa

54:34

who ran 319.09 for his first marathon. Got

54:37

to meet Jennifer and Megan Osborn, a

54:40

mother and daughter who were at the meetup. Megan ran

54:42

her first marathon that day and check

54:44

it out, she finished in 309. So

54:46

a lot of fun at the meetup. We had like 32 people

54:48

there total and it was pretty

54:51

loud in the brewery there so I actually

54:53

didn't get a chance to do any

54:55

recordings unfortunately. I'm sure every

54:57

one of these runners has an interesting story

54:59

that I could have captured. Although I do have one recording

55:02

for you because Karen and Dan from

55:04

San Diego, they were staying at the same hotel

55:06

I was at and they didn't have a car, they

55:08

just ubered to the brewery so I gave them a

55:11

ride back to the hotel and

55:13

before we got out, we're sitting in the parking garage.

55:15

I got out my digital recorder and this

55:17

is what it sounded like. I just gave

55:20

my first ride to MTA podcast

55:23

listeners. I'm here with Karen and Dan

55:25

from San Diego. Karen, today

55:27

you ran marathon number?

55:29

79, 79.

55:31

Why are you doing so

55:33

many? Keeps me healthy and happy and

55:36

grow old gracefully.

55:37

Yeah, I heard you say that and I like that philosophy

55:40

and you've been kind of on a

55:42

streak running Boston marathons as well.

55:44

You've done 10 and so you try to stay

55:47

in good enough shape to keep qualifying, you qualified

55:49

for Boston at Boston, right? First

55:52

time

55:52

in 10 tries this year,

55:54

yeah. So you're probably going back next year. I

55:57

am, qualified today. Yeah, with the

55:59

time of.

57:59

Probably not. So what's good about the

58:02

marathon conditioning in Jiu Jitsu is that I'm 54 and

58:04

most of my training

58:07

partners are in their 20s

58:09

but I out hustle them all

58:11

the time. They're all gassed out.

58:13

Oh yeah. You got your marathon endurance. Exactly.

58:15

You got more stamina.

58:17

So I can hang with the young ones. They

58:19

don't know if he's in his 50s. Everybody's

58:22

in shock. Like you guys are in your 50s. Exactly.

58:25

Yeah. Awesome. Good

58:28

thing about marathoning. Yeah. That's

58:31

right. Jiu Jitsu dancing and marathons and

58:34

living in San Diego where the weather's always nice. Exactly.

58:37

That's helpful. Well thanks for coming to the meet up. Thanks for being

58:39

a listener to the podcast as well.

58:42

Nice to meet some new friends here in Richmond,

58:44

Virginia. Thanks

58:45

for the ride back to the hotel.

58:46

Thanks for the ride. Oh we should say too

58:48

that hearing about the Richmond marathon

58:51

on the podcast kind of tipped the

58:53

scale on you guys coming here right? Yeah.

58:56

Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely.

58:59

So thank you Richmond Marathon for sponsoring

59:01

the show. It's paying off. Yeah. We

59:04

enjoyed it. And I do recommend it. Yeah.

59:07

There you go folks.

59:17

Alright so that's what went down

59:19

at the Richmond Marathon 2023.

59:23

It's always so energizing to meet runners

59:26

and people in our community. And if they'll have me

59:28

back, I will be back next year. And

59:30

we'll just keep the party going. But until then, hope

59:32

to see you all somewhere out there at another

59:34

race. And we always love hearing from you. So

59:36

shoot us an email through our contact form

59:39

on our website. Or hop on the phone with Coach Nicole. If

59:41

you need some help in your training, getting things figured

59:44

out, working through your issues. We are here.

59:46

So that's it for this episode. Until next time, remember

59:49

you have what it takes to run a marathon and change

59:51

your life.

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you