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Sam Wilson Stands Alone

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Today on the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast, we're

0:02

talking about a little news and feedback. Anthony

0:04

Mackie is saying that he's going

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to be taking on his newest film without

0:08

his friends. So what does that mean? What

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does it mean? We're going to dive in.

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by. Granger, for the

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ones who get it done. Welcome

1:00

to the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast. My name

1:02

is Matthew Carroll. And I'm Ashley Coffin. Ashley,

1:05

how are you today, my friend? I mean, tax

1:07

day. It's

1:10

never fun. Getting $19

1:13

back from the IRS. Baller.

1:17

No kids, no house. They don't give

1:19

you anything. Well,

1:24

I'm glad to get something back. I always have

1:26

to pay because all of my, they

1:29

don't take anything ahead of time because

1:31

of my weird jobs that I do.

1:34

So, like, no one's taking out my paycheck.

1:36

So I've always had to pay money day to the

1:38

year. And that's no fun either. Yeah, they still

1:40

take it out of my paycheck and usually I have to

1:42

pay. This was the first year in like two years we

1:44

didn't have to pay. It's great. No, that's good. I'll take

1:46

$19. The guy was like, H&R

1:49

Black guy was like, taken it back a bit by

1:51

how excited we were. Because

1:53

last year we had like 1300 and I can't

1:55

even remember why. I was just like, Oh my

1:57

God. But we were like, whoa. I've

2:01

had a few of those like multiple thousand

2:03

dollar years. I'm like, oh, I

2:06

know. Yeah. It's it was a while

2:08

in between because we were just like, maybe

2:10

we get like one or $200 back for

2:13

whatever. But COVID year, we got like a lot more

2:15

back. Plus we were getting all that other

2:17

money. And yeah, and

2:19

then it just kind of fizzled out in the last two

2:21

years was not great. And then this year, at least

2:24

we didn't know. That's all I had. We should be

2:27

doing. Yeah. All right.

2:29

Well, getting to getting

2:32

into this old, Marvel

2:34

of it all. Yeah. Do your

2:37

taxes. You got a week left or something.

2:39

No, is it like two weeks?

2:41

Three? Yeah. April 15th. I'm just trying

2:43

to help the people. Yeah. Do your

2:46

taxes if that's the thing you do.

2:50

We're not giving financial advice here, but do

2:52

your taxes is probably fair. So

2:59

we got a couple of new stories before we

3:01

get to that. Because I'm talking about X97. We're

3:03

going to have good Ashley's Corner in a minute.

3:05

Can't wait to hear your takes. But

3:08

before we do that, we, the biggest story that

3:10

I saw, well, we have, we have a trailer and gameplay

3:13

footage of, well, I think it's mostly

3:16

a trailer of a Marvel 1943

3:18

rise of Hydra video game

3:21

coming out in 2025. And it's

3:24

a video game of Captain America

3:26

and Black Panther as

3:28

the key characters running around in like

3:31

World War II. And

3:33

it looks awesome. What do you

3:35

think? It looks stunning. And whenever

3:37

you see like, not the gameplay,

3:40

but the in-between cuts on

3:42

video games, I feel like when you get to the

3:44

video game, they never actually look as good as, you

3:46

know, what they look like when they're like,

3:48

this is what it looks like. This one looks like it's

3:50

going to be. It's wild.

3:53

Yeah, it looks really cool. It

3:55

looks like the two of them kept America and

3:58

Black Panther. It looks like they're really in tag.

4:00

realistic, which makes sense, like

4:02

the sort of imperialism of it all. And

4:05

I remember, you know, seeing a clip of

4:07

him talking about the, like how that shield

4:09

is not yours and stuff like that. Like,

4:11

it's cool because it's like, very

4:13

much we have talked about what

4:16

if, you know, like if they

4:18

had a cool representation of how

4:20

that shield became Captain America's and

4:23

would Wakanda come after it. And if they

4:25

ever happened in the MCU, and this is

4:27

not an MCU thing, but like, it looks

4:29

really, really bad. And

4:31

so if you're interested, check it out. Marvel 1943. I

4:34

will be playing this game. Absolutely. Are

4:36

you going to get back to the game segments? We

4:40

should. I love, I

4:43

love playing games, but I never have time. So I get them

4:45

and I play like, you know,

4:48

the first hour. A couple hours in. Yeah,

4:50

I'm still like two hours into Spider-Man 2.

4:54

I keep thinking like, I need to take

4:57

a day off and enjoy myself playing video

4:59

games. That just never happens. Never

5:01

do that. That's me with books. I'm like a hundred

5:03

pages into like six books right now. Yeah,

5:07

I did finally finish when Spider-Man

5:09

2 came out, like two

5:11

years late, I finally sat down and finished Spider-Man

5:13

Miles Morales so that I could play Spider-Man 2.

5:16

And then I played an hour of it and haven't picked it up since

5:18

or whatever hour or two of it. So

5:20

one day, one day, one

5:23

day, my, my

5:26

fiance's nephew came over. And

5:29

he was sitting and he's like, can I play

5:31

a Spider-Man game? And I was like, yeah, sure.

5:33

And he played way past where I was. I

5:35

was so annoyed because I was like trying to

5:37

like avert my eyes and hang out with everyone

5:39

else while he's over there spoiling the game for

5:41

me. I was like, not watching, not watching, not

5:43

watching. But every once in a while I'd catch

5:45

something and be like, that was cool. Not watching,

5:47

not watching, not watching. He's like, how

5:49

do I beat that boss? Not watching, not watching. But

5:53

but this is another one that I will definitely

5:55

buy and play two hours of. Um.

6:01

Okay, the other story we got going on

6:03

is, Anthony Mackie has a

6:05

quote, and I'll just read the quote here. He

6:08

says, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, I really

6:11

enjoyed doing that show. I was actually

6:13

excited to do a second season just

6:16

so me, Sebastian Stan, can get paid

6:18

to hang out. Because

6:20

it's like me, him, and Daniel Bruell, it's

6:23

kind of like the perfect storm of happiness.

6:26

When they decided to go back to the

6:28

movies, it is what it is, but I

6:30

don't have my friends anymore. So

6:32

it kind of dampens it a little bit. Anything

6:36

I can do to hang out with a dancing

6:38

Daniel Bruell makes me very happy. Interesting.

6:41

He specifically didn't say

6:46

Sebastian Stan in the second part. Yeah,

6:48

yeah. Well, he does say like... In

6:51

the first part. In the first part, like the reason...

6:53

Well, they both have two movies coming out. You

6:57

mean they both have movies coming out, like

6:59

one night at Thunderbolts? Yeah, coming. Yeah,

7:02

but it seems to me to be confirming that

7:05

in a roundabout way that Bucky will

7:07

not be in Cap 4. I

7:09

think they need to do that. I think he

7:11

needs to fly this solo, no Falcon

7:14

pun intended. Yeah.

7:16

Well, it's interesting, like the

7:18

balance between that, because part of me agrees

7:21

with you completely. I think that he

7:23

has to stand on his own as the

7:25

new Captain America and do

7:28

his thing and not have

7:30

himself overshadowed by these previous characters

7:32

that have run the franchise till now.

7:35

But at the same time, I guess it kind

7:37

of depends. Is this the movie where he does

7:39

that or is this the passing of the Torch

7:41

movie where maybe we get some old man Steve

7:43

time and he's passing

7:46

the torch to Bucky? I know that

7:48

Captain America and the Winter Soldier, yeah,

7:50

Falcon and the Winter Soldier. That

7:54

show, Fox West, Cat West, whatever, was a

7:56

passing of the torch in a way.

8:00

with him stepping up. But

8:03

it's also a TV show, not as many people have seen

8:05

it. Like what are we gonna say? Like a lot of

8:07

people the last time they saw Falcon he was just getting

8:09

the shield from Pap and it was like okay. Did you

8:11

mean passing the torch to Falcon? Yes.

8:14

Or Bucky? Okay because you're passing the torch to

8:16

Bucky. Oh my bad. And it confused me a

8:18

bit. I was like I don't think that's what

8:20

this movie's gonna be about. Yeah this is where

8:22

they they pass the torch again. No. Yeah just

8:25

somebody else. No. Sorry I meant uh... Sorry I

8:27

got to. I'm just... Steve if

8:29

Old Man Steve's still around passing that torch like

8:31

if he's still around as like a advisory role

8:33

or something I could definitely see them doing something

8:35

like that. Even if it's just like a surprise

8:37

scene we don't know about you know until it...

8:39

I hope if they do that we don't know

8:41

about it until it's in the theaters. Yeah. I

8:43

don't know though. I don't know. I think that's still

8:45

holding on to the past. It's kind of

8:47

like sink not sink or

8:49

swim but like he needs to... We're

8:52

at the point where like he needs to

8:54

be able to lead a Captain America movie and I'm

8:56

here with him. I'm here for it like I'll be

8:58

front row you know waving my little Captain America flag

9:00

and I want to see him do it but I

9:02

think that they really should lean into it and write

9:04

it well and make it you

9:07

know a new Captain America movie

9:09

and stand alone. Yeah.

9:11

Yeah. I think so too. I think

9:13

so too. And

9:15

like yeah I'm all for it. I think he can do it. Yeah.

9:18

It weirdly reminds me a little bit

9:20

of like Creed. The Creed movies. He

9:22

had three... I

9:24

was like what? Yeah it reminds me of that

9:27

Creed guy from... Can you

9:30

take me higher? Anymore

9:32

and we get sued.

9:36

Anymore and we get sued. So

9:42

yes it

9:44

reminds me of that like Creed the

9:46

Apollo Creed movies. Adonis Creed

9:48

I'm sorry. Like

9:51

Rocky's in like the first three of those you know

9:53

or three or four two or three.

9:55

I think he's the first two and the newest one's the

9:57

third one and he's not in that one. The

10:02

when of you effectively past that toward

10:04

someone can usually be ideal characters and

10:06

stand on your own and not lose.

10:08

the audience that you have gets a

10:11

I do think that there's still. Some.

10:15

I. Mean so be would start use to symbols to get

10:17

the murky at be made in. Watch her show you

10:19

know. How many times that in you sound

10:21

passing the torch is Emily how to do it

10:23

at the end of end game and then all

10:25

of Falcon and Winter Soldier was literally a whole

10:27

cell about right? what's being midway pass cnn the

10:29

see he says up in his little alpha and

10:31

then we have fully pass the torch that like

10:33

are we going to tell that story again. I

10:36

guess for me like a good balance

10:38

would be something to sectors. Ah

10:41

you have Sam Wilson being Captain America from

10:43

the beginning of the movie with no no

10:45

apologies know nothing dislikes I am Captain America

10:47

is here's what we're doing. Some people will

10:50

be sing it with the soup for the

10:52

first time but that's no big deal like

10:54

that go into it but then maybe like

10:56

notable who didn't see the so yeah that's

10:59

what I'm talking. There's

11:01

a huge portion of the audience who the

11:03

last time they saw this whole thing was

11:05

just so is Sam sitting on a been

11:07

receiving the seal The know it's like all

11:09

that of him in New Orleans. Practicing with

11:11

the see old am I getting good at

11:13

it and getting the new suit from Will

11:15

Condor almost. avoid. Didn't.

11:17

See that suits to thirty can live

11:20

on us. Forgot about them And physicists.

11:24

Have get A Man with a Dirty Casual

11:26

exists. And then by the way we don't

11:28

mean that we don't mean that Azalea as

11:30

as a I knew a negative that is

11:32

an indie hangs there isn't during term presents

11:34

it comes from other some other podcasts are

11:36

used to is that all the time As

11:38

like. Dislike for him for

11:40

like people who don't watch everything and the I,

11:43

I enjoy the term very casual. It's supposed to

11:45

be making fun of people who would say that

11:47

sort of thing. Yes, not all Access and I

11:49

still kind of am a Star Wars Dirty Castle.

11:52

I would say I'm a little bit more invested

11:54

in than the normal person, but I don't know

11:56

sir. Other stuff but as a lot

11:58

of feel them. There

12:00

are people that think that the people that they don't

12:03

say that use that word because I think that word

12:05

is inherently like Dirty casuals it's

12:07

inherently like poking fun. Yeah, I'm a

12:09

trash panda. That's my favorite thing. Yeah

12:11

Yeah, yeah dirty martinis or something, you know, you gotta think

12:13

about the good side Yeah, but the thing

12:16

is like we get people right in

12:18

to us saying we're dirty casuals like

12:20

not using that word But because we're

12:22

not as big on the comic side

12:24

of things We're an MCU podcast that

12:26

follows the MCU and focuses on

12:28

that So like they're like, you don't know everything about

12:30

comics. What are you doing? You know, it's like yeah

12:32

finding that balance Everybody has somebody they can point to

12:34

and think they're a little They

12:37

know more of the content than this other person and

12:39

it's all silly So

12:42

silly also this um But

12:45

yeah So there are dirty casuals out there who like

12:48

just saw in-game and haven't seen this guy since and

12:50

then they're gonna be like What what is this all

12:52

about? So I think I am Finishing

12:55

what I was saying. I think the the the balance

12:57

for me would be Him

13:01

being Captain America and you have that sort of like

13:03

reach your low point sort of moment in the movie

13:06

where he's trying to figure out what he needs to

13:08

do next or whatever and then he like meets

13:11

meet Steve Rogers at a park or

13:13

something, you know, like and they're like

13:17

Or Steve Rogers finds them old man

13:19

cap just finds them. Yeah. Yeah anything

13:21

any sort of like little like Clue

13:24

that he's still out there in the world live

13:27

in his living his best life and kind of

13:29

just gives Sam some encouraging words Like it'd be

13:31

nice to have that little bitty connection to the

13:33

past without him over driving the movie, you know

13:36

Just like the mentor figure, you know Not

13:39

be the hero of the movie, but just be a mentor

13:42

Well, and it is hard because all these new

13:44

characters now don't really have mentor characters to look

13:46

up to the way that you say The original

13:48

six that you had their Nick Fury, even though,

13:50

you know when they didn't trust him

13:52

or whatever and you had You know

13:54

spider-man had Tony and everybody kind of had someone

13:56

to talk to and everybody now is just kind

13:58

of out in the wild and alone. They haven't

14:02

really found each other even yet. Right, right. That's

14:04

the thing is like I don't know about mentor

14:06

figures if we've really had a lot of that

14:08

really because everybody is this was all kind of

14:10

the first generation of heroes. Doctor Strange is gone.

14:12

Right. They could talk to

14:14

Bruce I guess. We don't really know where Doctor Strange,

14:16

we know Doctor Strange took off but we don't know

14:18

if he's gone like long term or if he's just,

14:21

you know. He's not there now. He's

14:23

not there at the moment. I would go to him just like

14:25

Spider-Man I'm like oh my god that's such a good idea he

14:27

can kind of fix everything. Yeah. So.

14:29

But he's gone. I think

14:32

this setter sort of confirms what we

14:34

I think we both are saying we

14:36

want which is a solo Captain America

14:38

focused movie. Yeah before an Avengers movie

14:40

yes please. Yeah give me give me

14:42

Sam Wilson like really like living

14:45

as Captain America in a movie and I'm down

14:47

with that. But

14:50

we'll see if they have any kind of cameos in there. I

14:53

think a couple. Yeah it sounds like we

14:55

will likely not get it.

14:57

I mean he's saying hang out

14:59

with Sebastian Dan so it's possible that even though

15:01

this says like this seems to be

15:03

saying he's not in the movie. It's possible Bucky

15:05

has a scene but he's just not like a

15:07

like predominant player in the movie. Yeah or something.

15:10

I'll take an email. Anything

15:12

just talk to each other. Well

15:16

so Ashley you have seen X-Men

15:18

97 me and Jeff had a couple episodes where

15:21

we talked about it. What did what did you

15:23

think what's your Ashley give us an Ashley's corner.

15:26

I really know I really did like it. I

15:28

did. I really like

15:30

that magneto is kind of in forefront. He's always

15:33

been my favorite and he's just got so much

15:35

style. And I mean there's no better power than

15:37

his. I mean we've gone over I would do

15:39

horrible things if I had his power but he's

15:41

always kept an imbalance you know not really but

15:43

whatever. I feel like they

15:45

hardly showed his powers in the original

15:47

show. So I appreciate

15:51

like that off the bat that here we're

15:53

seeing like he is super super powerful.

15:56

I love that the sentinels called storm and Omega

15:58

threat. I was like yeah. Oh,

16:00

I loved it. And like seeing Morph jump in

16:02

and out of different characters, like actually using their

16:05

powers is really fun. Yeah, that

16:07

was wild. What's crazy is just

16:09

before the show aired, I was talking to

16:11

Hailey about some of my favorite comic moments

16:14

with Rogue. And I was like, I love

16:16

that she has this relationship in the comics

16:18

randomly with Magneto. More

16:21

specifically, I was talking about her relationship with his clone

16:23

Joseph. And I was like, it was just nice. They

16:25

could touch each other, but in Age of Apocalypse, Charles

16:28

Xavier either is killed as a child or something.

16:31

I can't remember what it is, but Magneto has

16:33

to start the X-Men. And they're actually married in

16:35

that one. And I believe they have children. But

16:38

I've always loved their relationship because honestly with

16:40

Rogue, wouldn't you always be like, give me

16:43

one of those necklaces? Like she's always like,

16:45

God, I can't touch anybody. It's so sad.

16:47

I'm like, get one of those necklaces, the

16:51

power dampening necklaces. Yeah, yeah, that's a

16:53

good idea. Just get one of those. Yeah,

16:55

absolutely. You know? I mean, make you vulnerable.

16:58

It's up for me. It does make

17:00

you inherently vulnerable in those moments, of

17:02

course. But it allows you to be

17:05

intimate and vulnerable with people

17:07

too, though. And that's what you're looking

17:09

for. That's a good

17:11

idea. I don't know why they've never explored

17:14

that. But next best

17:16

thing is Magneto. So looking like a double

17:18

stuffed Oreo snack also. And I love that

17:20

they had him in the same outfit. Like

17:22

the M, it was Magneto. It was the

17:24

same costume he wore for his trial issues

17:27

in Uncanny X-Men series. So I

17:29

love that. Yeah, no, I like it. I

17:31

like that. It's onto them. I'm like, we

17:34

have drama, suspense, action. It feels very

17:36

similar. It really does. Everyone sounds

17:38

good. Hailey

17:42

had to be like, no, the rogue chick is the

17:44

same chick. I go, oh no. Oh, really?

17:46

What can you do? You can't

17:48

still have that trying because you can't replace her

17:50

because nobody could ever do the rogue voice from

17:52

the original series. So you just have her do

17:54

it now. And I mean, she doesn't sound exactly

17:56

the same, but it's still her. So I'm fine

17:59

with it. Yeah. It's neat that

18:01

they've got the same people. That's really

18:03

cool. One

18:05

that I did not remember, we didn't talk about

18:07

it on the cast, one that I

18:10

really appreciated after rewatching

18:12

the first few episodes in the first season

18:15

and then watching this morph and

18:17

his laugh. But he's okay, yeah, I think

18:19

so. It's so silly and so good. And

18:21

when he comes in as Charles, I just

18:24

love that scene. And then

18:26

when he cuts it off, I'm like, hahaha.

18:29

Yeah, he's a little monster. It's

18:31

fun though, I like what they're doing. The animation looks

18:33

really nice. I'm

18:36

upset about Storm, we'll see what happens there. Yeah,

18:38

I don't know how... That

18:41

can't be an ending for her story, I feel

18:44

like. No, it better not be. But

18:46

yeah, I don't know when that will come full circle. I

18:50

feel like her losing her powers was

18:53

the big inciting incident of

18:56

the big freak out in this episode. So it's important

18:58

and I wanted to have those stakes and have that

19:00

weight to it, but I don't want that to be

19:02

the end of her story. Even if she doesn't get

19:04

her powers back, I want her to find some peace

19:07

and resolution because it was just so sad, see her

19:09

get on the bus and be like, we

19:11

have no connection anymore. But

19:14

I can't believe he held it together, everyone's like,

19:16

in Charles' memory, I'm like, damn, okay. You're doing

19:18

all the things that you never did in any

19:20

of the comics, so let's go. Well,

19:26

you watched the entire series. Was there

19:28

anything that you noticed with these first

19:30

two episodes that like, after watching the

19:32

entire series, it was a cool, strong

19:34

connection that maybe other

19:36

people wouldn't have noticed? It's

19:39

more that they changed something pretty drastic.

19:43

At the end of the series,

19:45

Charles isn't killed. He's taken... Something,

19:48

I can't exactly remember what happened, but he gets shot

19:50

or something or sick. Andra comes down

19:52

with the Shi'ara Empire and they take him away. So

19:55

he's not killed or assassinated, so that's kind of a

19:57

major change. Sorry, everybody, if

19:59

you didn't want... Well, yeah,

20:01

absolutely. We've talked about that on the cast

20:04

before. The fact that that was

20:06

in the trailer, it seemed like that's the way they

20:08

were going, saying he was killed even though in the

20:10

show he was not. So I'm

20:12

curious if that's going to come into play at

20:14

some point. I mean, it could be that he

20:16

went off with them and then died in space.

20:18

You know, like he went off and we just

20:21

never found out. But when they sang, I guess

20:23

that was Guy Ricks who did it to him anyway

20:25

and they were pretend. Okay, yeah. So, I

20:27

think sure. That's a possibility. Or it's

20:29

possible that they've had to say he's

20:31

dead because he's off on some top

20:33

secret space mission or top secret space

20:35

recovery and then he'll come back. And,

20:37

you know, with his power set being

20:39

as OP as he is, like, his

20:41

consciousness could be rattling around. But they're

20:43

all acting like simply Magneto, like he's dead.

20:46

Like he's dead dead. So we'll

20:48

say that's, I'm like, that's fine to be

20:50

honest. This is a fun storyline. Yeah.

20:53

Well, and that's what made me wonder if like the

20:55

X-Men know something Magneto doesn't possibly, like they know about

20:57

that. I didn't watch that on the set. He was

20:59

there, yeah. He knew about it. Okay. So he was

21:01

there and knew about it. So yeah, it is weird

21:03

that he is acting – he is

21:06

allowing himself to be changed by this. Yeah,

21:09

because he wouldn't take his money and stuff if

21:11

you're like, oh, he's not actually dead. And you

21:13

all in the room know he's not dead. That he doesn't

21:15

mean anything because we all know he's not dead. Right.

21:18

So it seems like he has to be actually dead

21:20

for this story to make any sense. So yeah, my

21:22

only thought is maybe he went off with the lady

21:25

of the She-Arred Empire or whatever and then like whatever

21:27

they tried to do to make him recover didn't work. Because

21:29

I also think it's been six months or so, I think.

21:32

I think so. Since all that happened.

21:34

So yeah, interesting stuff. Interesting

21:37

stuff. Man,

21:40

okay. Well, we got

21:42

some people who wrote in and it's all pretty

21:45

much about the XM97 series this week, of course,

21:47

because everybody's pretty pumped about it. K.T.

21:50

Lizbeth, one of our patrons said, quoting

21:52

us, he's the master of

21:54

magnetism if you know what I mean.

21:57

That one got me laughing out loud on the bus to work. Also,

22:00

is Rogue and Magneto's age gap old

22:02

enough to drink? Which I think

22:04

is a quote from, that

22:07

was a quote from you about somebody else a few weeks ago,

22:09

I believe. Funny. On

22:12

a more serious note, I really admire that

22:14

you guys did not shy away from talking

22:16

about how this show and the

22:18

X-Men comics throughout Marvel history

22:20

addressed bigotry. As

22:23

an Asian American adopted by a white family,

22:26

translational adoptee, I've had to

22:28

think about how others perceive

22:30

me racially, as well as

22:32

how I think

22:34

about race being raised by a

22:36

white family while not looking like them.

22:39

Discussing how the X-Men addresses these

22:41

similar issues will help other people

22:44

start to continue questions, start

22:47

or continue questions about what it means

22:49

to fit and include

22:51

others in society. You

22:54

guys don't have to go to NPR levels

22:56

discussing it, but

22:59

calling out bigotry is the right thing

23:01

to do. With

23:03

hosting the Greatest Marvel podcast comes

23:06

really great chance for advocacy. Well,

23:10

thank you, KT. That means a lot for you. And

23:13

yeah, I am brand new to

23:15

this, so I don't have the experience that

23:17

KT has and I'm coming at it from

23:19

a different angle, but I am also, I'm

23:21

raising my

23:23

niece who is interracial herself, and so

23:25

there's this weird stuff that comes along

23:28

with that. You

23:30

get different looks and stuff, you get different, people

23:34

treat us differently and they see

23:36

the connection between us differently, and

23:39

it's a thing, man. Yeah. And

23:41

like I said, I'm brand new to it, and since

23:44

we've been homeschooling mostly, we haven't

23:46

dealt the outside world much, but when we do,

23:48

it feels that way. Yeah. It's

23:51

a weird thing. You should watch, is she watching the original

23:53

show with you? She should have her watch it with you,

23:55

because I honestly feel like I'm not an

23:57

asshole because I watched that show and I didn't really. I

24:00

realized that until I watched it again in a single. I'm

24:02

like, wait a minute, is this why I'm not a POS?

24:05

You grow up in towns that overwhelmingly white

24:07

and what are you gonna

24:09

do? And then a show

24:12

like this comes along and you just kind of get it. And

24:14

I'm like, oh, don't be a jerk. Yeah,

24:16

don't be a jerk. People are different and that's

24:18

okay. And we gotta work to

24:21

include people in society who don't

24:24

fit whatever the hegemony is, whatever

24:26

you think the norm is, that's

24:30

your construct. People

24:33

are different and that doesn't make them any

24:35

less valuable or less to be considered in

24:37

anything. Or

24:41

to be feared just because they're different. Yeah.

24:44

And I love that they're going like, I've

24:47

talked a lot about it. I think we talked a

24:49

little bit on the podcast and I think that's what Katie's

24:51

talking about, but also just like really, they're

24:54

really going in on the white

24:57

replacement rhetoric of these friends

25:00

of humanity. Like

25:04

it's directly that stuff.

25:07

They're not hiding the fact that they're making

25:09

this direct comparison and I love it.

25:12

I love it. I love that they're making

25:15

it difficult and making it

25:17

real. Sometimes handling

25:19

these sorts of issues

25:21

through allegory as this show does

25:24

and as many sci-fi and fictional

25:26

shows do, it's

25:29

obviously a powerful way to attack it

25:31

and to look at it and to

25:33

be able to subversively discuss things, but

25:36

sometimes you get so obscured by the

25:38

allegory that you're not really making

25:40

the connections. And some people like it better

25:42

that way because it's escapism or it's, don't

25:45

put politics in my cartoon, that sort of stuff. But

25:47

like, I

25:49

really, really like that this show is showcasing

25:52

the point of view

25:58

and the point of views. and

26:01

showing that they are bigotry and

26:03

the effects that it can have on other others.

26:06

I mean, like, it's

26:08

a really like, yeah, I just, there's

26:11

so many great, so many great moments in

26:13

this. Like the idea that they wouldn't accept

26:15

Jean Grey in the hospital. Like

26:17

that's what in the world. Side

26:20

note, Rogue, that is not Rogue's powers. I

26:22

don't know what the heck they were doing there. You

26:24

can't touch someone and be like, oh, I'm

26:26

a doctor now. It's not the matrix. I

26:29

don't ever remember. I mean, right in if

26:31

I'm wrong, but I'm pretty, I would put

26:33

all my money on black and risk my

26:35

child. You know, if I had

26:37

a kid his college fund, that's not how

26:39

Rogue's powers work. Okay. Interesting.

26:42

You're not downloading it. Interesting. Yeah.

26:45

We talked about the, I don't know if you heard the episodes, but Jeff, Jeff

26:47

mentioned that that is something from comics where

26:49

like when she touched

26:52

Carol Danvers back in the day

26:54

and got her powers, she also got a bunch of

26:56

her memories. She always

26:58

would get people's memories, but like, I don't know if it

27:01

would be like, oh, I touched you and now I can

27:03

deliver a baby immediately. It's

27:05

interesting. People's memories would haunt her. Like

27:08

that's why her power, it does suck.

27:10

Like, you know, you would just,

27:12

after she would touch someone for like days afterwards,

27:14

their memories would just flood back and she would

27:16

like freak out, especially if she touched someone like,

27:19

I don't know, sinister or any of the people

27:21

that she's touched. Like it would really mess with

27:23

her and they would have to like treat

27:25

her for days because she'd be going crazy. Yeah.

27:28

I wonder if those things subside to,

27:30

you know, like if she,

27:32

obviously they do and she learns to cope with them

27:34

at least, but I wonder

27:36

if just like the powers that she absorbs,

27:39

those memories don't last forever. Yeah.

27:41

But I guess maybe the memories of

27:43

experiencing the memories last forever. So I

27:46

don't know. That's interesting. Weird. Yeah.

27:49

It happens. It's just, it's definitely an expansion of

27:51

her power set if that's not something

27:53

they've done before where she just like, I need

27:56

a skillset touch. Yeah. I

27:58

don't remember it. Sure.

28:02

It's neat. I think that's kind of cool to

28:04

give her that extra extra thing to do. I'm

28:07

sure if they're establishing it here, it's probably something

28:10

that we'll be able to use in a later

28:13

Situation as well. I'm guessing. They

28:15

can set up a maternity word at the school.

28:17

Yeah, exactly. Extra money all the

28:19

time. Try to buy books. Yeah,

28:22

troubled teens and Lots

28:26

of troubled teens with teen pregnancies going on at

28:28

the mansion. Okay,

28:31

Julian Kiss says

28:34

hey After watching the first

28:36

two episodes of X-Men 97 I feel like

28:38

I just had to write in again

28:41

because I loved them so much.

28:44

Not only do I think they've

28:46

massively improved the betrayal of all

28:48

the characters But what excites me

28:50

even more is them digging into

28:52

the social justice issues of it

28:54

all. I feel so seen

28:56

by the queer slash minority

28:58

metaphor of the mutants. So

29:01

it means a lot to me that

29:03

they're not holding back and it's honestly

29:05

scary how real the bigots attacking the

29:07

X-Men and Gene being

29:09

denied health care felt like

29:12

hello. These

29:14

things need to be talked about more.

29:16

So I appreciate the series a lot

29:18

for that and I'm super excited for

29:20

the rest of the show. Thank you

29:23

for everything. Love you 3000

29:25

Julian. See

29:27

I feel like that's something that the original series does

29:29

do a lot because the more you watch them the

29:31

more they really do smack you in the face with

29:33

like deep social issues. This is for

29:36

eight nine ten year olds. There's even an

29:38

episode where like Logan finds Jesus with Nightcrawler

29:40

and it's it's wild. You're like

29:42

holy heavy X-Men. But

29:44

yeah, yeah, yeah, see it just shows that they're

29:47

not it's not one specific. You can't come in

29:49

and be like Oh, this is so woke. They'll

29:51

do your episode sit down. They're like

29:53

just wait for it. But

29:56

I did like it does make it makes a lot of sense and

29:58

it always has and that's what the X-Men. have always

30:00

been about. So, you know,

30:02

100%. Yeah. And I, what I do really like is that

30:10

I like this, I'm nervous about it. And

30:12

I'm also excited about it. And I don't

30:14

know exactly where my feelings are resting. But

30:16

like, I,

30:22

these days, politically, I fall pretty, pretty

30:24

hard on one side, uh,

30:26

on most issues. I'm

30:29

pretty, I'm pretty hard, hard, falling

30:31

to the left these days. It's true. I

30:34

was always a bit more of a middle of the

30:36

road guy, but these last few years have pushed me

30:38

further and further left. And I am now like pretty

30:40

staunchly that way. But

30:42

I really appreciate being challenged

30:44

in those ideas. And

30:46

particularly in the idea once you when

30:50

you're falling middle of the road politically and like, like

30:52

you're kind of dancing in that line, like there's sort

30:54

of this oh, they're

30:56

all everybody has a point or when

30:58

you when you sort of fall to one side, it

31:02

can feel good because

31:04

it feels you feel secure

31:06

in what you believe and you feel like you know

31:08

what you believe and you don't feel wishy washy at

31:10

all. You're like this is what, but it can

31:13

also cause a lot of division, which

31:15

I think is happening in our country

31:17

today. And even across the world today

31:19

with like, people pushing further away from

31:21

each other because there's not that much

31:23

mushy middle anymore. What

31:26

I am interested to see and makes

31:28

me nervous and excited is

31:30

the way that Cyclops as a leader is

31:34

struggling with Charles's

31:39

ideals, like in the

31:41

face of this level of bigotry, which it's sort

31:44

of it's sort of the thing

31:46

we are all facing in the real

31:48

world in the face of this level

31:50

of bigotry. How do you coexist, you

31:53

know, and like there's the magneto

31:55

of it all. And he's just like, I'm

31:58

not going to kill you because it would break the rules. But

32:01

I'm not going to let you hurt us

32:03

and I'm going to point out that you're

32:05

terrible people. He calls him terrible

32:08

things as he's like throwing executioner

32:10

up against that metal coin or

32:12

whatever. They deserved it. Yeah, he

32:15

totally deserves it. But

32:18

there's this contempt for Magneto

32:20

has. Yeah, yeah. I think even

32:22

though he's trying to follow Charles's

32:24

rules, Charles never had that contempt.

32:27

And I think Cyclops, the actual

32:29

successor to Charles's ideals, is

32:32

struggling with like – there's

32:34

a really interesting moment when one of the

32:36

guys is talking to Cyclops

32:39

and saying like tolerance is

32:41

extinction. Like we can't tolerate

32:43

this. Like we have to – which is such

32:46

a – that line, that line is ripped from

32:48

headlines. Like it's so good. Yeah.

32:51

But in that moment, it shows

32:53

through the Ruby Visor, it shows

32:56

like Cyclops' eyes. And I just get a

32:58

real sense of like Cyclops is searching for

33:00

an answer because he's like in the face

33:02

of this bigotry, how do I reach across

33:04

and share a world with you? Yeah.

33:07

It gets to a point where you can't. Well,

33:10

that's – and that's the question. And that's

33:13

the Charles Xavier ideal is that

33:17

we have to live on this world together. We

33:19

have to find peace together. You have to

33:21

meet in the middle. Or

33:23

at least find a way to coexist, you

33:26

know. And in

33:29

a world with its push to this extreme,

33:31

how do you coexist? And it's

33:35

like literally challenging to think

33:37

about because in so

33:39

many times when I'm these days like

33:42

thinking about politics and policies

33:44

and things that I support, I'm just like no,

33:47

we just have to beat them, you know. We

33:50

just have to win. Like we have to win. We have

33:52

to do the thing. It's like no,

33:54

we have to coexist to figure out a

33:56

way. But like yeah, it's tough though. It's

33:58

like real tough. So

34:01

yeah, I'm interested to see what the

34:03

show is eventually going to say because

34:05

I could see Cyclops like being pushed

34:07

to the point that he is turning

34:09

this turning the page to be more like Magneto,

34:11

you know, or I can see the point where

34:13

like, he tries to hold

34:16

on to their middle of the ground

34:18

stance. And it like causes issues

34:20

because that's not a thing he can do anymore in the

34:22

face of the, you know, it's just crazy. That

34:24

has happened time and time and time and again

34:27

where, you know, people are put in danger or

34:29

problems because he refused to let down just following

34:31

the rules. It's very Cap-like, but

34:33

it's even, I don't know, Cyclops I would say

34:35

is a little bit more than Cap. Yeah. I

34:39

feel like we should, the last feedback

34:41

is asking about this stuff. Oh, okay.

34:44

Or the second to last one. Okay, let's

34:46

just read these next two. Caleb,

34:48

Shelby. Oh, my mistress

34:50

of the elements. My

34:55

Panda family, this show is off to a

34:57

great start. I will confess, I was not

34:59

a big X-Men fan back when the show

35:01

was airing on TV. Blasphemy. Blasphemy.

35:05

Yeah. How dare you say this about

35:07

your mistress of the elements. Right? Sorry.

35:11

Continuing. But I do remember watching a few

35:13

episodes here and there. These

35:15

first two episodes of X-Men 97 makes

35:18

me want to go back and watch

35:20

the OG episodes. The animation, particularly

35:22

during the fight scenes, are top

35:24

tier. They're a little different

35:26

from the, you know, it's been about like 20 years, so it's okay. Yeah,

35:29

it's a big difference in the style. Yeah,

35:32

big difference. Big difference. In

35:35

episode two, when Cyclops was getting

35:37

sucker punched again and again, it

35:39

reminded me of invisible and... Oh,

35:43

invincible, sorry. It reminded me of invincible

35:45

and their fighting sequences. Hashtag

35:47

brutal. Huh. Also, let

35:49

me take a moment to appreciate

35:51

Magneto for his hair, his suit,

35:53

and his character. I am

35:55

intrigued about his character development throughout

35:57

the season. an

36:00

X-string theory, ooh, I believe

36:02

in the last episode we

36:04

will get some type of

36:06

segue into the Deadpool and

36:08

Wolverine movie. Maybe something as

36:10

simple as Wolverine saying a

36:12

problem has come up, I

36:15

need to talk with Deadpool with

36:18

the screen cutting to black. He is

36:20

going to be wearing the classic yellow

36:22

suit in the movies, it could be

36:24

the same Wolverine from the animated series,

36:27

What Do You Guys Think? Thanks for

36:29

the content, happy early 1000 episodes,

36:32

you guys are my

36:34

jam, J-A-M, Caleb, shall

36:37

we? Thanks Caleb. Yeah.

36:40

That'd be fun. It would be fun, I

36:42

definitely think it's possible, I definitely think that

36:45

it is possible that the movie is going to

36:47

reference this, whether this actually

36:49

references movies and how strongly

36:51

that happens is yet to be seen. I

36:55

think it'd be a good move for them. I think a lot

36:57

more people would come watch this series, in a

37:00

post credit sequence you see a live

37:02

action Ryan Reynolds Deadpool talking to a

37:04

cartoon Wolverine, that would get

37:07

a lot of people to go watch this thing. That'd

37:09

be pretty cool. It would be, I like that as

37:11

a string theory. I have an

37:13

X-string theory. What

37:18

if Magneto's faking it? I

37:22

asked this question on our cast, but who

37:24

is the benefactor who's paying

37:26

the Friends of Humanity $10,000 a mutant?

37:30

Oh, Senator maybe? We

37:34

talked about possible Senator, but now I'm

37:37

wondering, what if Magneto, now

37:39

with all Charles'

37:41

money and resources, is using

37:44

the Friends of Humanity, telling them he's

37:46

a, oh yeah, I'm using them for

37:48

target practice, but actually he's using

37:51

the Friends of Humanity to round up mutants and get

37:53

them to Genosha where they'll be safe, or

37:56

something like that. That's okay.

37:58

Right. Maybe,

38:00

or maybe just like, it would be interesting

38:03

if he's like doing all

38:05

of this in public to get a good public face,

38:07

but then we find out he's really like working behind

38:09

the scenes and doing bad

38:11

things, whatever. I don't know. I don't

38:13

know. Well, if they're going to Genosha,

38:15

that's not the worst thing, right? Like, or

38:17

he's kidnapping them to Genosha. Well, it would seem

38:20

like he's kidnapping them to Genosha. Okay, that's not

38:22

good. So that's not good. Like Roberto, he was

38:24

kidnapped and he's going to be taken. And

38:26

we don't know to Genosha, I was just speculating.

38:28

Because we know what he did with the Morlocks.

38:31

So I'm just wondering, like those both happened in

38:33

the first two episodes. We know

38:35

he like carted the Morlocks off to Genosha

38:37

for safekeeping. What if he's doing that with

38:39

other mutants? Using

38:42

the Friends of Humanity as like

38:44

a backdoor, like he's occupying the Friends of

38:46

Humanity to like keep them busy and not

38:48

letting them attack mutants. Because he's like, hey,

38:50

yeah, if you keep the mutants alive and

38:52

bring them to me, you get $10,000, you

38:54

know? Wow, it's

38:56

hard though, because I don't know, that's

38:58

just so against everything Magneto is as

39:00

Holocaust, you know, I just couldn't see

39:02

him actually doing it. True, true. That's

39:05

true. That would go against everything that he

39:08

is as, you know, his like moral compass. But

39:11

when you push people too far, you never know. Well,

39:13

that's the thing is like sometimes when you push people

39:15

too far,

39:17

they go against their own like the thing

39:20

that caused their pain, sometimes that pain loops

39:22

back around and then they're the villain, you

39:24

know? I mean, that's his whole thing kind

39:26

of. Just a thought,

39:28

I'm still really curious about who that benefactor

39:30

is that's getting, I think

39:33

it's gonna be more complicated than just someone who's wanting

39:35

to hurt mutants. I think the Friends of Humanity are

39:37

being like, are some sort of patsies, they're being used

39:40

probably by someone who either wants to

39:42

study mutants, save mutants,

39:46

whatever, do something with mutants. I don't think it's gonna be

39:48

as simple as, you

39:50

know, they're just, they're just rounding them up. Sivli

39:53

says, Hello MCUcast, as a

39:55

lifelong X-Men fan, I'm

39:57

thrilled about all the love I'm

40:01

most thrilled about the fact that people

40:03

seem to finally be acknowledging that Cyclops

40:05

can be a badass.

40:08

I've been listening to the podcast for over

40:11

a year, so I am sorry if this

40:14

has been explained before, but it seems to

40:16

be a good time to ask, what's the

40:18

deal with the Cyclops hate? Is

40:21

X-Men 97 doing anything to make any

40:23

of you reconsider your feelings towards Scott?

40:26

As always, thanks for all you do,

40:28

Kimmy Pike. No. But

40:31

that's the point of Cyclops. Cyclops

40:36

is supposed to be that Mr. Goody two

40:38

shoes, Mr. Goody two shoes, and he does

40:40

always like, even if it's wrong, if Charles

40:42

says to do something and Charles 89% of

40:44

the time was

40:47

wrong about his intentions and plans, but if

40:49

he said to do it, even if Scott

40:52

questioned him in front of the team, he wouldn't

40:54

question them and he would kind of push them

40:56

to go. It's kind of like the Dark Phoenix

40:58

movie. He's too young

41:00

to have done it, but if Charles was like, you

41:02

need to go up there and save those astronauts, Scott

41:04

would have been like, yeah, get on there. We're

41:07

waiting for X-Men. Let's go. We don't

41:09

ask questions. We're the X-Men. You know? Even though to the

41:11

side he'd be like, Charles, are you sure that this is

41:13

a really good idea because it's kind of weird that we're

41:16

all going to die. He's like, no, no,

41:18

no. I said to get on the plane. Get on the

41:20

plane. Get on the plane. I'll be on the plane. Are

41:22

you sure we're going to be okay? Okay. He

41:25

thinks so? Okay. That's Cyclops.

41:27

It's a fun character because of how he pets heads with

41:29

everybody else, but he's technically the leader of the X-Men. To

41:36

answer Kimmy's first question, I think a

41:39

lot of the Scott hate comes

41:42

from the 90s and the 2000s. It's

41:45

like Cyclops is

41:48

just kind of a tool, particularly in

41:50

those... He's your first

41:53

bro-bro. Yeah. I mean, they

41:55

just make fun of him so good in those

41:57

X-Men movies. You've got him going against Wolverine, who's

41:59

so... charismatic and fun and cool and

42:01

then you've got the Boy Scout. It's

42:04

sort of the same dynamic as

42:08

loosely like an Iron Man and a

42:10

Captain America where Iron Man's a loose

42:12

cool one and Captain America is like

42:14

the staunch Boy Scout and like they

42:17

do a better job in the movies

42:19

in MCU of like balancing

42:21

Captain America and making him like

42:23

really relatable and cool because

42:26

I think Cyclops is sort of always

42:28

just doing Charles' bidding. It's hard

42:30

to see, he's always doing

42:32

Charles' bidding and he's always like sort of getting

42:34

in and out of relationships that sort of like

42:36

I don't know

42:38

seem to compromise him in a way that makes him

42:41

sort of like lame. I don't know. He

42:44

does always get the girl. Right, yes.

42:47

And in the comics I think like what's

42:49

up, I've heard analysis people talk about like

42:52

in the comics he

42:54

is way more impressive

42:57

as a tactician. Like

42:59

he is Captain America levels brilliant

43:02

when it comes to tactician stuff.

43:05

I don't think any of the hate comes like and

43:07

when she's saying he's a badass I think everybody knows

43:09

that Cyclops is a badass. His power as

43:11

much as it sucks is awesome. He's very

43:13

like capable and able. I think

43:15

the the hate for him just comes from

43:17

like his attitude kind of stuff but.

43:20

Right, I think that's true but I

43:22

think in the movies and in the

43:24

cartoon even they do a less good

43:26

job except for these two episodes they

43:28

do a less good job of displaying

43:31

how much of a badass he is.

43:33

I think you need to watch the original again

43:36

because I didn't realize my rewatch most

43:38

of the story is about Cyclops and I was like

43:40

I didn't know he was the star of the animated

43:42

series but it does feel like that wait till you

43:44

watch it. Okay. There's many episodes that are like him

43:47

alone. Right. He's

43:49

the leader of the X-Men it's very much his

43:51

story and I liked that this

43:53

one is going to be his story and I think

43:55

like it makes him a much more compelling character since

43:57

he is always the guy who follows Carl's lead. And

44:01

and believes believes in charles above

44:03

all it's really interesting to

44:05

see him in a world without charles and

44:07

like who who is he now. And

44:11

now we're gonna get something going on with

44:13

these to jean graze and one

44:15

for wolvie one for not what's

44:17

the problem. Each to each

44:20

their own. I

44:24

wonder if it's gonna be like a madeline prior lee will

44:26

see yeah that's what that's what the people

44:28

are thinking but i don't know no

44:31

i have intentionally not learn too much about that

44:33

storyline i want anything but you know that it

44:35

exists. Jeff just mentioned

44:37

it okay

44:40

i think i think i think the. Cyclops

44:43

hate is a little overblown. Yeah

44:46

i think a lot of times just him

44:48

people picking wolverine over him like if you're

44:50

gonna wolverine to the cool outsider but cyclops

44:52

is like the guy that

44:55

actually get stuff done in a lot of ways

44:57

like. Cyclops is great to fight

44:59

the dnd you know he's made

45:02

like he's the the d.d. yeah

45:04

the d.d. and the dnd you

45:06

did you did like you like the

45:08

dungeon master like a guy that you

45:10

probably be the control free that i have to be

45:13

the dungeon master. If you were in a room

45:15

with your friends cyclops would be the

45:17

dungeon master i mean a little beast of

45:19

privacy of the master but like true like

45:21

the man's planer. Cyclops with it of the

45:23

two of them cyclops would be like the

45:25

one like i'm

45:27

gonna make the team great and like if you're

45:29

playing dnd with him he would be like the

45:31

one like coordinating everyone and wolverine would be the

45:34

one who like just does the flashy thing that

45:36

gets him all the glory and like does what

45:38

he wants. Yeah he's the

45:40

wild card it's fun to watch the wild card i

45:42

think there's a lot of like just comparing the two

45:44

of them. Wolverine

45:46

cooler and so like you just like

45:49

at least at least on that metric and

45:52

he's cool yeah he's cooler logan he's a

45:54

bad guy he's a bad boy i mean

45:56

i would even say that's got brother's

45:58

cooler i love havoc. I love Alex

46:01

Summers and he's a great character. He's

46:04

like wild card spot Summers. He's

46:06

like you, you know, what did

46:08

they always call him in the comics? They can't remember,

46:10

but it's like a Boy Scout, you Boy Scout. Yeah.

46:13

And I'm like, that's perfect. It's a Boy Scout. I

46:15

have a question for you about the

46:19

original series. So cable

46:21

Nathan Summers was

46:24

born in this episode. Is that a spoiler? Wait,

46:26

is it? Did they actually say it? They said

46:28

Nathan, Nathan Summers. They didn't say cable. That's what

46:30

I was going to ask you. Okay. Well, if

46:32

you know who cable is and it's not,

46:34

then it's not. But if you don't know,

46:37

that's what I'm asking cable was in the original series.

46:40

Yeah. Nobody calls him Nathan Summers.

46:42

Oh, so they may not know he's they know they just

46:44

gave birth to cable. I feel like he alluded

46:46

to it in one episode, but he might

46:48

know, but the, the, they don't know. Okay.

46:51

I wouldn't know. Okay. So it's okay that

46:53

we know that now. Yeah, it's okay. I

46:55

was just curious if it, like, do they

46:57

remember cable? I guess it was my first

46:59

question. They would.

47:01

Yeah. Okay. Cause I'm just, I know with

47:03

time travel stories, sometimes you end up erasing everything

47:05

and like, I would, I don't know for sure

47:07

if they remembered cables trips back through time. Bishops

47:10

was the one that would kind of erase

47:12

things. Cables. Yeah. No, they remembered him because

47:14

he pops in once or twice. Okay. Cool. Cool.

47:16

Cool. All right. Well, uh, that's,

47:19

that's it. That's it. That's what we got.

47:21

Um, it's good. I'm excited. Uh, the series

47:23

is, uh, shaping up in a way that

47:26

it's exciting me more than I expected it

47:28

to. Um, I'm really

47:30

pumped to pump to watch more and like, I'm

47:32

glad everybody's out there enjoying it and, uh, writing

47:34

in about it and stuff. Yeah. Oh, I

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