This week, the hosts debate how religious voters will react to Donald Trump’s betrayal of anti-abortion positions, the evolution of Christianity as the domain of the right and whether religion is actually as powerful as it seems in modern U.S. politics.

Plus, Ross finds aliens, again.

(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)

Mentioned in this episode: 

• “This Is Probably Not the Deal the Pro-Life Movement Bargained for With Trump” by Ross Douthat
• “Can the Left Be Happy?” by Ross Douthat

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