Martin Interviews MNSRP staff members Karla Trigueros, Cecelia Frisinger, and Fern Duvall about the phenomenon known as fallout. Light distraction of the birds is discussed, as are the topics of recovering downed birds, and what listeners can do to help. We hear recordings of ʻUaʻu kani, taken from Hāwea Point by Rob Frye in March 2021. Rob also made the intro theme and contributed sound effects. Mahalo for listening! Maui Nui Seabird Recovery Project