Kelton and Jason discuss the story behind starting M vs M (Me vs Myself) and share the vision behind their latest business venture as apparel designers and podcast creators. The episode starts off light and then pivots into an insightful discussion about how each of them arrived at the understanding and importance of self-care, mindfulness, listening, and leadership. Kelton shares his experience dealing with his friends and touches on his approach to dating. Jason opens up about how he applies patience and the careful art of countersignaling and thevalue of emotional I.Q. 

About the Me vs Myself podcast, A Father (Jason, 40yr/old) and Son (Kelton 15yr/old) collaboration leads to a lifestyle brand that includes a custom apparel line and this podcast which discusses mental, physical, and spiritual health and wellness as it relates to their own generation.