In this episode, we talk with Dr. William Albabish, Director of Anatomy at Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine, as well as two Lerner College of Medicine students, Marcel Jean-Pierre and Patrick Potoczak, who navigate the debate surrounding the use of real bodies versus virtual models for teaching human anatomy and refining surgical skills. Through personal experiences, expert insights and considerations of ethical and emotional challenges, this episode explores the evolving landscape of anatomy education and its implications for medical training.