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Hi, my name is Sydney Mitchell. Hi,
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I'm Matthew Brickman, Florida Supreme court mediator. Welcome
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to the Mediate This! Podcast where
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we discuss everything mediation and
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conflict resolution.
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In 2004, a movie
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was released called The Butterfly
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Effect. I highly recommend
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this movie. The
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Butterfly Effect can be defined as the
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idea that something small like
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getting coffee can have a much larger
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effect, such as altering your career.
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In the movie The Butterfly Effect, it
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was about a college student who
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would get headaches so painful that
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he frequently blacked out, and while unconscious,
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he was able to travel back in time to
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difficult moments in his childhood, and
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then could alter the past for
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friends or even for
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himself. But when
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you change the past, it can
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drastically alter the present. And
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what does that have to do with mediation
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and what does that have to do with the title of
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this podcast? Wake Up? Well,
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as a mediator who has conducted over 3000
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mediations at the time of this recording,
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I hear a lot of stories every day of regret
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wishing things worked out differently and
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wishing different choices had been made.
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I have heard people say that they wish they
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had never met the partner that they
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are now in mediation with, whether that be
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a spouse or simply the parent of a
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child in a paternity action. I
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have heard people say they wish they had never
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quit a job, then
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a stay at home parent, move
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to a different location, whether that
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sometimes has been a country state or
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even just a neighborhood. I
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wonder if these people have ever
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thought about the butterfly
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effect. I recently
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had a dream. It was extremely
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intense to the point where
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I fell down uncontrollably
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weeping and screaming out, no,
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no, no
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. I
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woke up, rolled over, reached
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out my arm and touched my wife,
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and at that moment I realized it was a dream.
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I was able to wake up, but
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it impacted me. So
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here's the dream. Dreams
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are weird and sometimes they make
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no sense, but also can reveal deep
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emotional scars or fears
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or whatever, and I'm certainly no dream
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interpreter. I'll just put that out there. But
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in this dream, well, okay, hold
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on. Let me back up. I
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have said since about 2004
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that if I had a time machine and could
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go back in time and change anything in
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my life, I wouldn't because
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I love where I am right now,
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and I know that if I change one thing, it
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could change everything, thus
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understanding the butterfly effect. Okay,
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so in this dream though,
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weirdly enough, there was a time machine, and
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strangely enough, I used it for
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whatever reason, I went back to
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2007 when
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I had just met my wife. My
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son was 10 and my daughter was
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12. I was 33
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and my wife was 50. For
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those of you who have read my book called,
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you're Not The Only One, which can be found on iTunes.
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For those of you have that , been
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listening to this podcast, for
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those of you who I've mediated for,
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you know, a lot of my story and what I've
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been through with my kids, my ex-wife,
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DCF welfare checks,
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43 motions for Contempt Enforcement,
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many court appearances, therapy, and
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even some of the difficulties my current wife
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and I have experienced through our relationship
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of 17 years. With
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all that said, I'm back
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in 2007 and in
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the dream, I don't know why I chose
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then, and I don't know if I
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went back to simply observe or
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change something. That's the strange thing
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about dreams . Sometimes we just don't know , but
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in either way, I get there
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and I am me. This isn't
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like Scrooge in a Christmas Carol where
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he gets to simply observe and no one
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can see him. It's me
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and everyone can see me as
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I am me in that time.
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Now, what no one
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can see is the time machine though, so
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I get in the time machine to return to present
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day and it won't work. I
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begin to panic. A
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wave of emotion comes
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on me. I start hitting the
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buttons frantically and nothing
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is happening. All of
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a sudden, memories of
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the 17 years of word
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said, and the feelings from
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those experiences I went through
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and the emotions felt completely
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flooded me. I
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began to think about how I
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now have to relive
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the past 17 years exactly
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as it happened, as not
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to create the butterfly effect.
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The problem though is I have hindsight.
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I have maturity. I've
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learned from the mistakes that I made
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over the past 17 years. I'm
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not the same 33-year-old guy I
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used to be. I'm
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better because of the experiences
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I went through. The
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problem is I cannot apply
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any of the knowledge or
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maturity or wisdom, and
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I still have to say the
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same hurtful things to
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others. I have to
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go through the painful
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times, even though I
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know better, I
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know how to handle those situations of
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the past. I
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I, I can't though. The
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first thought that came to mind was
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my daughter. Oh my
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gosh, we
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have to be estranged for an
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entire year all
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over again. If
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not, she may not
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move out. She may
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not go live with her grandmother. She
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might not go to a different high school. She
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might not get a job at Chick-fil-A, she
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might not meet a guy there who invites
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her to church where she eventually
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meets her husband and marries
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the love of her life. Oh
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my gosh, I
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might not have Jefferson as a son-in-Law. No,
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I don't wanna feel that pain
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again, even though it ends with
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a miracle. Now,
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I think of my son, oh gosh,
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we've said some hateful things to one another. Through
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the years we've navigated that difficult
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parent-child relationship, especially
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when he was a teenager. We
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ended up in therapy when he was 24 years
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old. We didn't even have a parenting plan, a
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court order. We were still having issues
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and went to therapy when he was 24 to
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work out the issues from the
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past to deal with the hurtful
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and the painful things that were said in
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the past. We
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needed to go to therapy to
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work those out. We did.
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I have that information, but I can't
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apply it. He
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is now an amazing young man, has
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an amazing job. He's such
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a hard worker, but
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I have to say those nasty
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words to him, even
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though I know I shouldn't, even
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though I know how much it's
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going to hurt him because
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I heard about it in therapy when he was in 24,
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how those words cut him
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so deep. But I
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have to, because if I don't,
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I'm gonna create the butterfly effect, and
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now I could mess with his present. Not
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only mine. Oh my
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gosh. The
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next thing that comes to mind is I've gotta break
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up with my wife again. We
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have to also say some pretty hateful
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things to each other. She's
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gonna move away for a year. I'm
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gonna contemplate divorce. We're
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gonna sleep in separate bedrooms for over
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a year and basically be roommates with
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little to no emotion except
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for a decent financial arrangement.
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Oh my gosh, I may not
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be a mediator. I
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may not be able to help the 3000 plus families
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that I've had the honor to mediate for. Oh
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my gosh, I may not live in the
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same home that I currently live in. I
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may not have the great relationships that
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I have. I might
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not still go to the same church I've attended since
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the day it opened its doors in 2008.
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Oh my gosh. I have
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to relive the death of my brother.
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I have to relive the death of my grandmother,
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both my grandfathers, oh
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my gosh. I may or may not have
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to relive the death of my dog, Piper, as
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I may not even have gotten her.
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Oh my gosh. I've
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gotta do everything exactly the same,
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but that means that I'm also gonna feel
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all of that all over again to
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know what I know now and
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learn from the lessons of the past.
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I cannot apply any
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of that knowledge or wisdom, and
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I have to repeat everything
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the exact same way
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it happened or else
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everything could be different. I
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, I
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dropped to my knees. I
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began weeping and crying out,
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no, no, no,
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and that was when I woke up throughout
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the next few days, I thought about this dream,
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and not only how if I went
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back, it could change my life, but
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how my choices could change the lives of
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those around me. Let's
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use my daughter, for example. Again, my
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daughter's happily married and this year she'll be married
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four years, let's say. I
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could go back and let's say that I could change
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something that I wanted to change about my
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life that
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could completely change her
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life, and she didn't even get
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a say in the matter. That
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would be extremely selfish of me. Now,
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let's play this out, not in the past,
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but in the present and also in
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the future, and I'm
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going to switch from talking just about me
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and include all of you in this as
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well. The
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things we currently say and the actions
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we currently do can change the
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course of not only our lives,
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but those all around us. Divorce,
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does this two
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people commit to one another until death?
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Do they part? Then
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they say things and do things
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to one another that they may never
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say or do to anyone
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else around them. Those
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words cut and can have significant
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impact on their own emotional
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wellbeing and mental state, and can affect
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even their future relationships
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when there are kids involved. Do not
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think your kids aren't watching and
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learning. What we do as adults
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directly impact our kids. They
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hear us, they watch us.
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They know what's going on, and
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it shapes who they will be, what
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they will do, and even what
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they will say. This
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can get carried down from generation
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to generation, and no wonder 70%
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of the US is on antidepressants
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and anti-anxiety meds. No
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wonder there's thriving
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jobs for therapists, attorneys,
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and yes, even mediators. We
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cannot go back. We cannot change
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what's happened to us as
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time. Machines do not exist. For
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better or for worse. We are
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the product of our past. We
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cannot stay victims of our
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past. We
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need to learn from it. We need
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to make a change, and
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that happens only if we choose to.
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Too many people choose the
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title of victim instead
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of survivor. This
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dream stopped me and
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wrecked me and made me think of what
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if I had said something different or done
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something different in the past? It
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made me appreciate my present, but
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more than that, it made
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me aware of the words that
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I currently say and the
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things that I currently do in
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the present to those that I
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engage with, whether it be a checkout
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girl at the grocery store, my
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kids, my neighbors clients,
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and yes, even my wife. I
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want to live a life that is full of joy
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and peace with those around
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me. Now, I am fully
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aware that this does not mean that every
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day is going to be sunshine and lollipops
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pops , but I have a role
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to play in this life, and
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I wanna be a positive influence to
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those I engage with. So
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maybe it's time we all wake
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up and start paying attention.
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Occasionally, Sydney and I will be releasing q
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and a bonus episodes where we'll answer
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your questions and give you a
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personal shout out .
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If you have a comment or question regarding anything
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that we discuss, email us at [email protected]
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that's [email protected] and stay tuned
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to hear your shout
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out and have your question answered here on the show.
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For more information about my services or
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to schedule your mediation with me, either in
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person or using my iChatMediation
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Virtual Platform built by Cisco
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Communications. Visit me online
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at
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www.iMediateInc.com. Call me at
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561-262-9121, Toll-Free at 877-822-1479 or
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email me at [email protected].
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