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Clarifying The Confusion With the World Health Organization Treaties vs. Amendments vs. Agenda 2030 - Interview with James Roguski

Clarifying The Confusion With the World Health Organization Treaties vs. Amendments vs. Agenda 2030 - Interview with James Roguski

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Clarifying The Confusion With the World Health Organization Treaties vs. Amendments vs. Agenda 2030 - Interview with James Roguski

Clarifying The Confusion With the World Health Organization Treaties vs. Amendments vs. Agenda 2030 - Interview with James Roguski

Clarifying The Confusion With the World Health Organization Treaties vs. Amendments vs. Agenda 2030 - Interview with James Roguski

Clarifying The Confusion With the World Health Organization Treaties vs. Amendments vs. Agenda 2030 - Interview with James Roguski

Wednesday, 20th March 2024
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Get ready to hear the truth , the

0:03

whole truth and nothing

0:05

but the truth about the United States

0:08

health care system With

0:10

your host of the Medical Truth podcast

0:12

, james Agedio .

0:17

Hi , I'm James Agedio with the Medical Truth

0:19

podcast . I'm your host . This

0:21

last episode , I brought on a regular

0:23

that I always bring on , james Rigauske

0:26

, who discusses the issues

0:28

with the World Health Organization . In the

0:30

last episode , we talked about exiting

0:33

the who and this episode

0:35

was as a continuation of that , but we're going

0:37

to expand on some topics that

0:40

we haven't discussed in the past

0:42

. Without further ado , let me introduce

0:44

my guest , james Rigauske . James

0:47

, how are you doing today ?

0:48

Hey , james , long time , no see . It was just a couple of days

0:50

ago , and so part of the reason why

0:52

we're back again is , as we speak

0:54

, this week and next week the last two weeks

0:57

of March the intergovernmental

1:00

negotiating body is meeting

1:02

in Geneva to have

1:05

what is scheduled to be their last

1:07

meeting , or so they say . Boy

1:09

, I really doubt it's going to be their last meeting

1:11

, because the negotiations

1:14

are actually quite contentious and I think

1:16

they're very far away from reaching an agreement

1:18

. But they did have a

1:20

early morning session on

1:23

Monday , the 18th , where that

1:25

was made public , and so all

1:27

of the many nations voiced their

1:29

opinions and you could just see

1:31

the divide , because what's

1:34

really going on with these negotiations is

1:36

probably not what most people think it

1:38

is , and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk about that today

1:40

.

1:41

Sure , absolutely so . I

1:43

know the last time we spoke you

1:45

had asked me if I had posted

1:47

, because some of these episodes can run into a couple

1:50

of hours if you let them , and I'm sure

1:52

a lot of people don't want to sit there and listen

1:54

to us two old guys panter

1:56

back and forth for a couple of hours . So

1:59

it's better that we broke it up like

2:01

we did today , with part one on Friday

2:03

, which was the 15th

2:06

of March , and today's the 19th

2:08

of March 2024 . So

2:11

today let's just get into what

2:13

you had requested In the last

2:15

episode , what we would cover today

2:18

. Go ahead , james .

2:19

Sure , in the last episode , mostly what

2:21

we talked about was the proposed

2:23

amendments to the international

2:25

health regulations , and

2:27

what has been happening over the last year

2:30

and a half is the information

2:32

that was originally presented for

2:34

that set of negotiations

2:36

has gotten commingled in everyone's

2:38

mind with what's going on with

2:40

the other set of negotiations

2:43

, which are headed towards a

2:45

brand new agreement . Most

2:48

people call it the pandemic treaty . It's

2:50

had many names and arguably

2:53

simply because it's what

2:55

they said they wanted way

2:57

back in May of 2021

3:00

. It's structured as a

3:02

framework convention , which

3:04

means that they can agree

3:07

to a framework , but then

3:09

, year after year , this becomes a zombie

3:11

bureaucracy where it

3:13

meets on an ongoing basis forever

3:15

and unelected

3:18

on . Accountable bureaucrats would then go

3:20

pretty much have a party once a year , go

3:22

to Geneva and decide

3:25

the fate of what would

3:27

be done with tens of billions of dollars

3:29

to be put towards pandemic

3:32

prevention , preparedness and response

3:34

. And the simplest example

3:36

goes all the way back to 1992

3:39

, where all of the nations , through

3:41

the United Nations , signed

3:43

on . The United States Senate gave

3:45

two thirds consent and we are a party

3:47

to the framework convention for

3:49

climate change . If you think that's

3:52

working out great for you , please

3:54

realize that what happens with that is

3:56

on a yearly basis , the conference of

3:58

the parties gets together and

4:00

they make decisions that

4:02

we've pre agreed to

4:04

and so , whatever it is , they decide that

4:07

filtering into your life through

4:09

whether it's national legislation , state

4:11

legislation , local , county

4:13

, city everyone is abiding

4:15

by this framework

4:18

that keeps having things added

4:20

onto it . One thing I was talking

4:22

about last fall when I was talking about this

4:24

, was if you had someone who

4:26

offered to bring a Christmas

4:28

tree into your home and

4:30

set it all up and decorate it for you

4:32

sounds like a good idea , until

4:35

they start bringing in some really weird decorations

4:37

and you said , hey , you

4:40

agreed to let me do that

4:42

. Do you really want to have

4:44

your nation agree to an open

4:46

ended framework where they

4:49

get to make all the rules year after

4:51

year and we don't really have any control

4:53

over what they decide ? This is just an

4:55

absolute abomination . Now

4:58

they had a meeting yesterday and

5:00

essentially , there is

5:03

great division amongst

5:05

the various nations , and

5:07

not for the reasons people

5:09

might think . This is essentially

5:12

, in my view , a trade

5:14

dispute , and it all started back

5:17

in December of 2021 and

5:19

the relatively poor nations looked

5:22

at what was going on and they said wait

5:24

a minute , we're not getting enough

5:26

jabs . All of the wealthy

5:29

nations bought 10 jabs per person

5:31

and they called upon

5:33

the WHO to have a second

5:35

session of the World Health Assembly

5:38

, which met at the end of November

5:40

beginning of December 2021 . And

5:43

the declaration that came out of that was

5:45

they wanted to have the WHO

5:48

oversee negotiations

5:50

for a new agreement to

5:53

ensure equitable access

5:55

to pandemic related products

5:58

. The problem is they

6:00

are not getting into

6:02

. Wait a minute . If you

6:04

have jabs that

6:06

don't stop infection , don't

6:08

stop transmission , cause

6:11

immune dysfunction , disease

6:13

, disability and death , and you

6:15

have tests that tell people

6:17

that they have an asymptomatic

6:19

case of some disease , what

6:22

is it that you're actually seeking

6:25

? If those are the types of pandemic

6:27

related products that you're upset

6:29

about not receiving , you

6:31

actually should be down on your knees counting your

6:33

blessings that you didn't get tricked into believing

6:36

something that was false . But

6:39

what's really going on , I

6:41

think , is best exemplified

6:43

by what happened with Omicron

6:46

and when South Africa and

6:48

Botswana identified

6:50

what they said was a new variant

6:52

very different from what everybody was

6:54

talking about before . It came out of nowhere . Who

6:56

knows where it came from . In their computers

6:59

they had a genetic sequence that they

7:01

said was a new variant

7:03

that they were dealing with . When

7:05

they made that public

7:07

, they did what they thought they were obligated

7:10

to do , which was to be transparent and

7:12

share that information with the world . The

7:14

international health regulations were supposed

7:17

to protect them from other nations

7:19

imposing travel restrictions

7:21

, but it didn't work , because Europe and

7:23

a bunch of other nations stopped travel

7:26

to South Africa and then , to

7:28

add insult to injury , pfizer and

7:30

Moderna took that genetic information

7:32

and ultimately added it into

7:35

the boosters and made a couple of more

7:37

billion dollars . So what

7:39

these negotiations are about

7:41

is that the nations were

7:44

upset that they handed

7:46

over this incredibly valuable

7:48

information . They got punished

7:50

by other nations for being transparent

7:53

with travel restrictions , and then

7:55

a whole bunch of money was made by corporations

7:57

that pirated that information and didn't

8:00

share it . So what

8:02

is going on with these negotiations

8:04

and I can see scrolling on the bottom ? You

8:06

can go to stopthetreatyorg and

8:09

read the actual document , and

8:11

this is what I encourage everyone to do , because

8:14

many people have talked about

8:16

these issues and on March

8:19

13th of 2024

8:21

, the latest version

8:23

of the document , the

8:25

quote unquote treaty , was

8:27

published by the WHO . They're

8:30

currently negotiating

8:32

it . Realize that the sands are shifting

8:34

and little things will probably

8:36

change if they can reach agreement . But

8:39

at the moment I strongly

8:41

encourage everyone to go to stopthetreatyorg

8:44

and listen to the video

8:47

recitation that

8:49

I did of some of the most pertinent

8:51

aspects of this agreement

8:53

, because what most people think

8:55

is in this agreement is totally different than what

8:58

it actually says . Whatever it is

9:00

you think about the treaty the

9:02

pandemic treaty it's really

9:04

not what most people

9:06

have been saying . It's talking

9:08

about setting up a system

9:10

where billions of dollars

9:12

go into looking

9:14

for pathogens

9:16

with pandemic potential . Now

9:19

, whenever I see that phrase , I turn

9:21

it around and and I say they're looking

9:23

for pathogens with pandemic

9:26

profiteering potential . Then

9:29

they want to bring it into the WHO

9:31

laboratory network so

9:34

they can study it , possibly

9:36

do gain a function . They used

9:38

to have language in the document about that

9:40

, but they took it out because they know that's very

9:42

contentious . Then they want

9:44

to have what they call a

9:46

standard material transfer

9:48

agreement . Essentially , they want a

9:50

contract with the pharmaceutical

9:53

companies and the WHO saying we

9:55

found this really scary genetic

9:57

sequence for virus or some

9:59

other pathogen and if you want

10:01

it , you're going to have to promise to share the

10:03

benefits with us . That

10:06

is what they are arguing about now

10:08

. It's not good versus evil , it's

10:10

, you know , big pharma versus

10:13

nations who are claiming

10:15

rightfully , I believe that

10:17

these biological resources

10:20

are part of their

10:22

sovereign resources . It

10:24

used to be that nations would have

10:27

their raw materials plundered , whether

10:29

that was forestry products or

10:32

gold and silver or diamond

10:34

mines or any other kind of natural

10:36

resource . They are categorizing

10:39

pathogen information

10:41

as a sovereign resource

10:44

. It literally says that in the latest , in

10:46

the latest couple of versions of

10:48

the proposed agreement , and

10:50

they don't want to be

10:53

forced to give that up

10:55

for free . They want

10:57

a piece of the pie and

10:59

they want investment , not only

11:01

for that information , that intellectual

11:03

property or that sovereign resource

11:06

. They want the corporations

11:08

who are then going to turn that into value

11:10

added products like drugs and jabs to

11:13

share their intellectual property , share

11:15

their manufacturing know-how , share

11:18

the investment capital to turn around

11:20

and build geographically

11:23

distributed manufacturing

11:25

. They want to be able to build

11:27

, and they're already actively building

11:29

these manufacturing plants in Rwanda

11:31

and South Africa . They have a mRNA

11:34

hub where they're trying to spread this

11:36

all throughout Africa . They want to

11:38

be able to build and

11:40

manufacture , build manufacturing

11:42

plants and manufacture their own

11:44

MRNA jabs , because

11:47

it's inordinately profitable . And

11:49

so what we're seeing here are not

11:51

negotiations to take

11:53

away your national sovereignty

11:56

or to tell you what you can

11:58

or cannot do with your

12:00

doctor or any of that sort of thing . What

12:02

we're dealing with here is , I

12:04

think , organized crime . I've

12:07

dubbed it the new OPEC . Opec

12:09

stands for the Oil Producing

12:12

and Exporting Countries , saudi

12:14

Arabia and so forth . The new OPEC is

12:16

the Organization of Pandemic

12:18

Emergency Corporations

12:21

. They want the WHO

12:23

to be in charge of a global

12:25

distribution and logistics

12:27

network . They've already got distribution

12:31

points in Dubai that they talk very

12:33

proudly about , that . They've got 20,000

12:36

square meters of

12:38

distribution facilities in

12:40

Dubai . That's four football

12:42

fields . So what they're looking at

12:44

is setting up , I think

12:46

, really a cartel , a mafia

12:48

, racketeering organization to

12:51

just buy up the

12:53

production of all of these various

12:55

companies . And the thing

12:58

on the bottom , you have their exactly

13:00

correct . They want to cause the problem

13:02

or , at the very least , find something

13:04

that they say is a problem Some

13:07

pathogen that has pandemic

13:09

profiteering potential , have money

13:11

come from wealthy nations

13:14

to go into a pool that

13:16

they control and then be

13:18

able to declare that there's an emergency

13:21

and they have the solution

13:23

. The reaction is fear , right

13:26

, saying to somebody we have this new

13:28

scary pathogen and now we

13:30

have the solution . Over

13:32

and over again , because

13:34

it was a very profitable venture over the

13:36

past four years .

13:38

But I know there seems

13:40

to be so many layers to this , though

13:42

, and what do you think

13:44

is the end goal to all this ? I can't just

13:46

be with the World Health Organization

13:48

. It's got to be with total control

13:50

, don't you think ?

13:52

If you can keep people in a state of fear

13:54

and offer them the solution

13:57

over and over again , people

13:59

make very bad decisions , whether

14:01

it was the Patriot Act

14:03

and the war on terror and

14:05

the terror alert . What's red

14:08

or orange or yellow , you have to be very afraid

14:10

. It's very analogous

14:12

to something that

14:14

Obama said about Ebola

14:17

, but also Bush said

14:19

and many people said about quote

14:21

unquote terrorism the idea

14:24

that , oh , it's better to fight

14:26

it over there , because if you don't fight

14:28

it over there , then you're going to have to

14:30

deal with it at home . Obama

14:32

very clearly said that about

14:35

Ebola in West Africa . I

14:37

believe it was in 2014 . And

14:39

so the idea that they're trying to

14:41

put out is that if wealthy

14:44

nations want to protect

14:46

themselves from the next

14:48

pandemic , it's likely

14:50

to come where there are poorer

14:53

nations , where the people live

14:55

more closely in contact with

14:57

both domesticated animals and wild

14:59

animals . And they're trying

15:01

to put forth the quite frankly

15:03

lie that , oh , this zoonotic

15:06

transfer from some animal

15:09

is going to jump species to a human being

15:11

. That if wealthy people

15:13

want to protect themselves

15:15

from the next pandemic , they

15:17

have to give money to build

15:20

out the pharmaceutical hospital

15:22

emergency industrial complex in

15:24

poorer nations in

15:26

order to stop it at the source

15:28

, quarantine them , treat

15:31

them , surveil them

15:33

, and if you give us your money

15:35

, we'll go invest it there

15:38

to protect you from the problem that is likely

15:40

to start in the lower

15:42

income nations . The lower income nations

15:45

certainly need many things

15:47

, but it's quite arguable , if

15:49

not insane , to believe that

15:51

the first , most important thing that they

15:54

need is to have wealthy

15:56

oligarchs setting up laboratories

15:58

looking for pathogens , doing

16:00

genetic sequencing , and then bringing

16:02

them into biological laboratories

16:05

so that they can sign contracts

16:07

to get a piece of the pie from

16:10

the pharmaceutical drugs and jams that

16:12

they would then inflict upon their own

16:14

people Anything . That's

16:16

just how you profit from fear of ingrain

16:18

.

16:19

Yeah , I know the last episode you

16:21

had mentioned that , and this

16:23

is where I'll disagree with you , james . I

16:26

agree on a lot of things that you talk about with the

16:28

World Health Organization , but there's one

16:30

thing that you said in the last episode a few

16:32

days ago was that you

16:34

don't believe that this is a good versus evil thing

16:37

. And I have to disagree with that

16:39

, and I'll tell you why . Because when

16:41

you look at it in the grand

16:43

scheme of things , it comes down

16:46

to especially with the World Health Organization

16:48

, the World Economic Forum it comes

16:50

down to control , right . It comes down

16:52

to how are we going to control the masses

16:54

of people , right , with

16:56

this one world government ? And

16:59

there's a lot of churches

17:01

, and this is why they want to censor

17:04

a lot of churches and

17:06

a lot of pastors and why

17:08

they want to pretty much rip apart family

17:10

and faith and especially family , where

17:13

they indoctrinate kids with this transgender

17:16

agenda and the hormones

17:18

and the surgeries and the

17:20

confusion , and all that is

17:23

because they know that the power and the

17:25

strength is in family and in faith . And

17:28

there's one particular pastor out

17:30

of California , where you're at , by the name of John

17:33

MacArthur .

17:33

Now I'm going to play a three-minute video right now

17:36

and what he says and

17:38

what he believes is the whole agenda

17:40

we're all aware of the

17:42

fact that people have been talking about global

17:45

unity , one world

17:47

government , for

17:49

a long time , and there are many conspiracy

17:53

theories about people

17:55

secretly moving everything in that direction

17:57

. But there are also

17:59

realities which are anything

18:02

but secret and are not theories

18:04

, but are certainly actions

18:07

being taken by globalists to

18:09

move the world toward one

18:12

world government . This

18:15

is escalating among the

18:17

elitist , power hungry people

18:20

who control the levers of culture

18:23

and society . They want one

18:25

world government . And

18:28

why do they want that ? They give several

18:31

reasons . One is what

18:34

they call equity , so

18:36

that they can redistribute all

18:38

the assets and all the wealth and

18:40

all the possessions equally across

18:43

the planet to everyone . Another

18:46

one is because of currency

18:49

. They have a desire for a

18:51

singular currency , global

18:54

currency , and they would

18:56

like that to be cryptocurrency

18:59

, electronic currency , so

19:01

they can control all finances

19:03

and all spending by

19:06

everyone . And

19:08

then another one of their motivating

19:11

desires is environment

19:13

. They want equal

19:15

commitment upon every

19:18

nation of the world , all people of the

19:20

world , to the environmental plan

19:23

. Right now

19:25

, many nations are supposedly

19:28

doing what they can to achieve environmental

19:31

goals , while many

19:33

other nations pay no attention . Another

19:36

one of their goals is taxation

19:39

. They want global

19:41

taxation so that no one . No

19:43

corporation can escape to

19:45

some location where

19:47

the taxation is lower

19:50

. Another reason

19:52

for their desire for a global , one-world

19:55

government is immigration

19:57

. They want to eliminate immigration

19:59

altogether . They want to eliminate

20:01

it by simply saying anybody

20:03

can go anywhere . They want to go anytime

20:06

anyway . Free

20:09

movement of everyone

20:12

. Another

20:14

one of their goals in having

20:16

one-world government is

20:18

what they call crisis

20:20

response , which was

20:23

illustrated during the lockdown and

20:25

the pandemic with COVID . They

20:27

want to make sure the whole world responds

20:29

the way the World Health Organization

20:32

thinks they should respond . They

20:34

want control over

20:36

the responses to any

20:39

kind of disease , any kind

20:41

of pandemic , and

20:43

they want uniformity . And

20:46

then , of course , a big one war

20:49

, because nations fight

20:51

each other , and this seems

20:53

to go on all the time . They want

20:55

to eliminate nations so

20:58

that there are no national

21:00

wars . And the goal of all

21:02

of this if they can create equity

21:04

, common currency , control

21:06

of the environment , universal

21:09

taxation , Eliminate

21:12

borders so there's no illegal

21:15

immigration , Control

21:17

all crises and

21:20

end all wars , We'll

21:22

bring about world peace . I

21:25

don't know if you know this , but they already have a flag

21:27

. It's called the One World

21:29

Flag . It's

21:32

the flag of humanity and the unity

21:34

of the nations . Part

21:37

of it is green for the earth , humanity

21:40

, human progress and unity

21:42

, agriculture and life . Part

21:45

of it is blue for the United

21:47

Nations hope , water , atmosphere

21:50

we breathe in sky . Part

21:52

of it is black for the darkness

21:54

of space , hardship

21:57

that humanity will overcome

21:59

and the last frontier of human

22:01

exploration and settlement

22:04

of the solar system

22:06

and beyond . And

22:08

it has 13 stars because they've divided

22:10

the globe into 13 regions

22:13

, One World

22:16

Government . They are serious

22:18

about this . This is one of the reasons

22:20

I told you months ago that they have a problem

22:23

with America because

22:25

of the emphasis here on nationalism

22:28

. That is a threat to their

22:30

efforts to remove

22:32

national identity .

22:35

So this is the flag , too , by

22:37

the way , that I was sharing

22:39

with you earlier before we started the recording and

22:42

that's for people to see here . There's

22:45

where he talks about the green , the blue , the black

22:47

and the 13 stars . So what's

22:50

your take on that ?

22:51

You're going to have to allow me to agree

22:54

with you , but you're going to have to let me clarify

22:56

what it was I was actually talking

22:58

about . Now , this is actually part of

23:01

the problem . What he's essentially

23:03

talking about is a totally

23:05

different line of

23:07

negotiations , and this is

23:10

yet another way in which they

23:12

serve to confuse people , to

23:14

get everyone off target . What

23:17

I was saying where it's

23:19

not good versus evil

23:21

is what I meant was that in

23:23

these negotiations with the

23:25

amendments and the treaty , the

23:27

two sides that are doing battle

23:30

and arguing over the poison

23:32

pie that they all want a piece of , there's

23:35

nobody in there who's saying anything

23:37

that's good , with the exception

23:39

of the representative from

23:42

Chad who spoke up on

23:44

Monday and

23:46

he literally said and people can go to stoptreatyorg

23:49

and see the four minute

23:51

video . He said what is it that we're

23:53

doing here ? We need to be talking

23:56

about helping people get healthy . What

23:58

everyone here is talking about is how

24:00

to divvy up the money and all of the resources

24:03

and so forth . And when I said

24:05

it's not a question of good versus

24:07

evil , what I very specifically

24:09

meant was , in these negotiations

24:12

at the WHO , it's

24:14

big evil negotiating with

24:16

little evil , and

24:19

for the first time this

24:21

morning there

24:23

was a glimmer of somebody

24:26

who said the quiet part out loud

24:28

, and so I encourage people to go to

24:30

stoptreatyorg and watch

24:32

the Chad representatives speak for four

24:34

minutes . Now what this pastor

24:36

was talking about . I'm

24:39

going to have to get you connected to Dr Rima

24:41

Labo , because this is what she's talking

24:43

about , and I put this all

24:45

together . Not exactly that

24:47

, but the United States responds

24:50

to it on stoptheglobalagendacom

24:53

. So now we're shifting gears

24:55

away from the WHO , because

24:58

what he's essentially talking about

25:01

, item by line item , is

25:03

the pact for the future that's

25:05

coming in September . Pay

25:07

attention , everybody , through the United

25:09

Nations . And so the

25:11

very things that he mentioned . They

25:14

would love to set up

25:16

a government of the world , essentially

25:19

in support of their

25:21

deeply failing sustainable

25:23

development goals as part of their agenda

25:26

2030 .

25:28

Let me interject for a moment , though . Don't you think

25:30

that the WHO is just one arm

25:33

of this whole global takeover

25:35

? We're just using the WHO in the

25:37

diseases and the vaccines

25:40

, and all that to usher in

25:42

what , ultimately , what I personally

25:44

feel is this digital

25:47

slavery that they want to entrap

25:50

everybody with .

25:53

All of those things . All of those things I agree

25:55

with you in terms of . This is

25:57

what's going on , but here's how

26:00

they are messing with everybody's head

26:02

. Those things are not

26:04

in the amendments . What's

26:07

in the amendments is

26:09

quarantining people if

26:11

they're traveling internationally

26:13

Planet lockdown . What's in the

26:15

amendments is emergency

26:17

declarations . At the drop of the hat

26:19

, we've got an early action alert . We've got

26:22

a public health emergency of international concern

26:24

, or a fake , or we've got a pandemic

26:26

emergency . That's what's

26:28

in the amendments . What's

26:30

in the treaty is just

26:33

this massive shift

26:35

of money to go looking

26:37

for pathogens to scare

26:39

people with . It's a financial

26:42

transfer from poor people in

26:44

wealthy nations to oligarchs

26:46

in poor nations so that

26:48

they can abuse their own people

26:51

and profit from it . When

26:53

people say that

26:55

all of the stuff that is in

26:58

the pact for the future

27:00

is in what the

27:02

WHO is doing , it

27:04

harms the legitimacy of

27:06

what we're trying to push back against

27:08

, because if you read the treaty or you

27:10

read the amendments , you're not going to find any

27:13

of that stuff in what the

27:15

WHO is currently negotiating

27:17

. Happy to get you connected

27:19

to Dr Rima Labo and other people

27:21

who are pushing back against

27:24

the pact for the future . That's

27:26

scheduled for September 22nd

27:28

of 2024 . Very important

27:31

things . If we bring those

27:33

into these discussions

27:36

, it makes everyone

27:38

look like they're a conspiracy

27:40

theorist , because you're not going to find

27:43

that in these documents

27:45

.

27:46

But the thing is , it seems like they usher

27:48

in any kind of CBDC

27:50

, central Bank digital currency where

27:52

everything that you own is consolidated

27:55

on one blockchain for you

27:57

to be able to buy or sell anything , that

28:00

they pretty much can control you and have you do anything

28:02

that they want at that point .

28:05

I'm very much in agreement with you , but

28:09

the game that they're playing , that's messing

28:11

with everyone's head , is

28:13

that , is not this

28:15

.

28:16

Yeah , no , I get you .

28:18

And so what is happening is people

28:20

are saying , oh , something is

28:22

in these old documents , and that's what they're

28:24

doing now , and something is in these future documents

28:26

, and that's what they're doing now . When you

28:28

mush it all together and you don't

28:31

keep it clear , everybody's head

28:33

gets fried , and so

28:35

when you go to speak intelligently

28:37

to your congressperson or anyone

28:39

else in the world , it sounds

28:42

wrong because it is

28:44

, and so what I

28:46

encourage people to do is you've got

28:48

to compartmentalize it , because what they're

28:50

trying to do is throw everything

28:52

, including the kitchen sink , at you

28:54

, and then people talk

28:57

about it . If you pull up the treaty

28:59

, you're not going to find anything

29:02

in the treaty that is

29:04

any of those things . It's not an attack

29:06

on national sovereignty . It's not

29:08

putting the WHO

29:11

in control of your relationship with

29:13

your doctor . It's not central

29:15

bank digital currency . It's not climate change

29:17

. Those are things that are

29:19

in the sustainable development

29:21

goals and the pack for the future Very

29:24

important things but

29:26

they are not in this document

29:28

. So when people get it all muddled

29:30

up , it loses

29:33

the focus , and what we

29:35

have here right now their

29:37

negotiations are about

29:39

to fall apart If we

29:42

focus on the fact . Large

29:45

evil meaning the big pharmaceutical

29:47

companies are battling with

29:49

wannabe oligarchs

29:51

in the pharmaceutical world . In

29:54

poorer nations they're

29:56

fighting amongst themselves for a piece

29:58

of the pie . It's mafia families doing battle

30:00

. And they're having

30:02

great difficulty reaching

30:05

any kind of agreement , and the

30:08

crack in the armor happened

30:10

on Monday , where the representative

30:12

from Chad said wait a minute

30:14

, you guys are all talking about money . You're

30:17

talking about looking

30:19

for pathogens and access

30:21

and benefit sharing and distribution

30:23

and logistics . What about the

30:26

lives of people ? What is

30:28

it that you do to make people healthy ? And

30:30

he called them all out on it and what

30:32

we need to do is focus

30:34

our energies on their weak

30:37

point . Their weak point is in

30:39

these negotiations right now

30:41

. In the amendments . They're trying

30:43

to get people to pay

30:46

attention to everything that's not in

30:48

these amendments so that

30:50

they can slip through quarantines

30:53

and vaccinations that

30:55

the WHO says are approved

30:57

, even though we all must know

30:59

that the tests and the jabs

31:02

are miserable failures

31:04

and totally fraudulent . That's

31:06

what they're trying to sneak through in

31:09

the amendments . What they're putting through

31:11

in the quote unquote treaty is

31:13

just an enormous money transfer

31:15

so that they can try to

31:17

scare people that they missed

31:19

over the past four years because the low

31:21

income nations were having difficulty

31:24

buying the jabs and injecting them

31:26

into their own people . All

31:28

of the other things that you mentioned are

31:30

coming , but we have to focus

31:32

on what they're doing now and not get

31:35

confused with the many things

31:37

that are in the pack for the future .

31:39

Yeah , but what do you say to someone who wants to refuse

31:41

to take the A vaccine that they want to push

31:44

on you for religious purposes ? You're

31:46

trampling on people's rights .

31:48

There was a case in the UK

31:51

where someone won

31:53

the case because they stated

31:56

that their belief system

31:59

incorporated the use of homeopathy

32:01

, and so what people are getting

32:04

confused with these WHO

32:06

negotiations is the infringement

32:09

of your personal rights

32:11

and freedoms does not

32:13

require any amendments

32:15

to the IHR and it does not require

32:18

a new pandemic treaty . Over

32:20

the last four years , your local

32:23

tyrant didn't need either of

32:25

those things to pretend

32:27

that they had authority over you

32:29

. If you understand in

32:31

the United States , please

32:33

, that if you have a

32:35

firmly held religious

32:38

belief , that is all

32:40

you need to protect yourself

32:42

legally from any

32:44

government official who tries to

32:46

tell you that you have to do something to your body . You

32:49

don't have to get into mRNA and jabs

32:52

and health and all that sort of stuff If it's

32:54

against your beliefs to

32:57

participate in that

33:00

activity . That is

33:02

undeniable . That is your first

33:04

amendment , right , and unfortunately

33:06

people just did

33:08

not understand how to best

33:11

stand up against local

33:13

tyrants . This is not

33:15

the case that Tedros and the

33:17

WHO is gonna send stormtroopers

33:20

into your home to force inject

33:22

you . What's likely to happen

33:24

is the same thing that

33:26

we allowed to happen over the last

33:28

four years . Some local

33:30

official gets far

33:33

beyond their authority , pretends

33:36

that , oh , because somebody in Geneva

33:39

or New York or DC said

33:41

, oh , it's an emergency , that

33:44

does not give them the authority

33:46

to trample on your unalienable

33:49

rights . That's what unalienable

33:52

means emergency be damned

33:54

. You have the right , but you have

33:56

to protect it . And so there's

33:58

local issues that we

34:01

had to deal with over the last

34:03

four years . What's

34:05

going on in Geneva with

34:07

the United I'm sorry , not the United Nations , but

34:09

the WHO is . They're trying

34:11

to work out quarantine

34:14

and vaccine requirements for international

34:17

travel . That's in the amendments

34:19

. They're trying to do a huge money

34:22

transfer to build out big

34:24

pharma in low income

34:26

countries , because they missed a lot of those people

34:28

over the past four years . What's

34:30

going on with the United Nations

34:32

? And in September , the pact for the

34:35

future is all tied in with

34:37

the sustainable development goals and all of

34:39

the things that pastor mentioned are

34:41

exactly what we need to focus

34:43

on . But that's not happening here

34:45

with the WHO . That's happening

34:47

there .

34:50

So when is this going back to the bargaining

34:52

table , this whole quarantine , and

34:54

at the drop of a hat they could say

34:57

as a traveler , you have

34:59

to take a vaccine , or whatever they

35:02

want to do . When is this all supposed to take

35:04

place ?

35:05

The specific issue that you

35:07

just mentioned . The amendments are

35:09

scheduled for their final meeting April

35:12

22nd to the 26th

35:14

. They've got one week of meetings and

35:17

the issue with all of the looking

35:19

for pathogens in the laboratory network

35:22

and the pathogen access benefits , sharing

35:24

contractual obligations to

35:26

turn it into a profitable business and a distribution

35:29

and logistics network . Those are

35:31

ongoing right now and the

35:33

last date is scheduled

35:35

to be March 28th . They

35:38

look like they're having great

35:40

difficulty . There is a possibility

35:42

that they might schedule an

35:44

additional meeting if they don't come

35:47

to some sort of an agreement , but their

35:49

final meeting to discuss

35:51

all of this is May 27th to

35:53

June 1st . So we've got two

35:55

months to flatten their plans , two months to flatten

35:57

the who and what people

36:00

need to do . In my opinion

36:02

, number one is get clear

36:04

on the facts and

36:06

all I have been doing for the last two years is

36:09

compartmentalize . What

36:11

they're doing in the amendments is quarantine

36:13

and travel restrictions and vaccine

36:16

requirements not that they should be called

36:18

vaccines . What's in the quote

36:20

unquote treaty is setting

36:22

up a framework convention to

36:24

create an organized crime

36:27

syndicate that's gonna be looking

36:29

for pathogens to scare you with so

36:31

that they can profit from it , and

36:33

that would then cascade

36:35

downward when they say , oh , be

36:38

afraid , and your local official becomes

36:40

afraid and thinks that they

36:42

have the authority to abuse you . That's

36:45

a local issue . It always was , it always

36:47

will be . What they're doing with the

36:50

framework convention for climate change

36:52

is part of the sustainable

36:54

development goals and all of the

36:56

other things that Pastor mentioned , and

36:58

a few more , is what they're planning

37:01

for . The pact for the future coming

37:03

in September Part mentalized

37:05

and we'll have a much better time .

37:07

No , I'm glad you clarified that , james , because

37:10

that's the reason why I bring you on . I feel like you're

37:12

the expert in this whole thing

37:14

and , plus , for me , that's

37:17

why I interview experts like

37:20

you , because for me , I'll just start

37:22

babbling and throwing up everything up on

37:24

the wall and I'm very insightful

37:26

and I do a lot of research on everything that

37:28

I do . But I think you're right . I

37:31

think we're all handling it the way it

37:34

was presented to us back into 2020

37:36

, when COVID was announced . It's

37:38

like nobody knew how to handle it and everybody

37:40

freaked out and there was lockdowns and nobody

37:43

took five steps back and took a deep breath

37:45

and said , okay , what's really going on here , and

37:48

let things unfold . And

37:50

that's why we're where we're at today , and

37:52

I think they take advantage of that too .

37:55

Offer an opinion . Okay . Everything

37:57

that I've been saying before is easily documented

38:00

. Sure , arguably

38:02

okay , but I think it's pretty

38:04

strong argument . Their weak

38:07

point is much of what they're

38:09

doing is centered on trying

38:12

to collect carbon taxes because

38:14

of their concept of global warming

38:16

. Slash , climate change slash , whatever they

38:18

want to rename it . Next , they wanna

38:20

try to control people's

38:22

lives under the false

38:25

scenario that

38:27

, because there's too many people on the

38:29

planet and we're all trying to stay

38:31

warm in the winter and cool in the summer

38:33

using whatever kind of fuel we

38:35

may use , that they should

38:38

be in charge of everything having

38:40

to do with energy . When

38:42

people wake up to that

38:45

scam and the fact that they're

38:47

trying to control the world

38:49

based on a false narrative

38:52

, their whole plan falls apart , because

38:55

that's what they're hoping to trick

38:57

everybody with , and for many people , it

38:59

has been working . There are people , younger

39:02

generation , who are petrified

39:05

that the world is gonna explode

39:07

and overheat and we're all gonna die

39:09

because of global warming , and

39:13

they're in an ongoing panic

39:15

about climate change . The

39:18

issues are obviously

39:20

complicated and people are easily

39:23

led down the primrose path , but

39:25

then you look at wait a minute . Fuel

39:28

prices just doubled when

39:30

the Biden administration came in the office

39:32

, right . Who's collecting

39:35

all those profits ? Follow the

39:37

money , right . Look at

39:39

what they're doing to solve the problem . Nobody's

39:41

actually solving the problems , they're

39:44

just profiteering from it . Same

39:46

thing with what's going on with the whl

39:49

create a problem , everyone

39:52

to be afraid , and If

39:54

you're in position to collect the

39:56

money that is offering some

39:58

solution to the problem , then

40:00

you can see what is actually

40:02

going on . Could we bow know who benefits

40:05

? It's almost always

40:07

traceable . It's a deeper evil

40:09

. The evil is deeper than greed

40:11

, but you can find it

40:13

if you follow the money right

40:15

so what they want with the who

40:18

is 30 billion dollars a year and

40:20

a hundred dollars surge funding , and , and

40:22

they've already set up the pandemic fund

40:25

that the United States is utilizing . So

40:27

Keep it simple

40:29

in a certain sense . Go

40:32

to stop the who calm and

40:34

you can learn about the pandemic

40:36

treaty and the amendments . You

40:38

can go to reject the amendments calm

40:41

for just the amendments . You can go to stop

40:43

the treaty org for just the treaty

40:45

, and and . There are many other

40:47

things that are going on . Just

40:49

realize that they're not all

40:51

Involved in what's going on

40:54

with the who . Keep them

40:56

separate . Focus on whatever

40:58

aspect of it is important to you and

41:00

hit the right target with

41:02

the right information , because

41:05

they know that if they just

41:07

continually try to overwhelm us , it's

41:10

hard to focus , and so what I've

41:12

managed to do over the last two years is

41:15

stay laser focused . Keep it clear

41:17

, yeah , and , and push back

41:20

in the right way against

41:22

the thing that you're objecting

41:24

to , and what I encourage everyone

41:26

to do is take any of the

41:28

documents that are involved . Take

41:31

a video of a Paragraph

41:33

or a sentence that you find objectionable

41:36

, so that no one can say

41:38

you're spreading misinformation

41:41

, and give your Opinion of

41:43

it . Put out a little tick-tock video

41:45

, telegram , wherever you might want to put it , instagram

41:48

, stay , whatever it is you

41:50

want to say about what's going on , and

41:52

you will be another Drop

41:55

that is in this flood

41:57

that they can't hold the damn

42:00

back , the flood of truth

42:02

that is coming out . They're trying

42:04

desperately to stop it . Sure

42:06

, if you just keep speaking your truth

42:08

, it's overwhelming to

42:10

them and on Monday I saw a

42:12

little crack in their armor

42:14

. The representative from Chad

42:17

spoke some of the quiet part out loud

42:19

. That's the name of the article speaking the quiet part

42:21

out loud . Just go to James for gusky

42:23

dot sub sec calm and see what he had

42:25

to say and see if it mostly

42:27

doesn't resonate with what you believe

42:29

. They're talking about making money

42:32

and distributing products and

42:34

resources . They've totally forgotten

42:37

about why are they there ? It's

42:39

about people being ill

42:41

. How do you take care of somebody ? It's

42:44

not by signing contracts to

42:46

move products around and make money . It

42:48

becomes so brutally obvious

42:51

. They are not going to be able to hold back

42:53

the truth if we just simply

42:55

keep speaking it .

42:57

Yeah , I think with the mere fact of the

42:59

truth that's coming out about the vaccine

43:01

or the bio weapon , there's as

43:04

mentioned this in the last episode as well is there's

43:06

a lot less takers to this than

43:08

there were at the beginning . So what do they

43:10

do with these supplies of this so-called

43:13

vaccine , when no

43:15

one's taken it .

43:17

Maybe we should encourage the list of people

43:19

that you had on that graphic to take

43:21

a few more , since they're so wonderful .

43:23

And then here's another interesting development

43:25

that took place about a week ago

43:27

. I actually shared this with dr Sansone

43:30

, which was the whole thing , with Donald

43:32

Trump Pushing the vaccine

43:34

, or at least endorsing it . What

43:37

was your take on that ?

43:39

It's astonishing that he is

43:41

unable to see the light . When

43:43

you're at your own rally , in your own people

43:45

boo , something that you say Time after

43:47

time you would think somebody would

43:49

be an advisor who's got the guts to say

43:51

hey might want to wake up

43:53

and change your tune . It's

43:56

astonishing . It's astonishing . Can't

43:58

, can't explain insanity , but you

44:00

can just point it out and what it really

44:02

comes down to is we , the

44:04

people , have to look in the mirror

44:06

and Identify

44:09

what it is that we believe

44:11

and then go out

44:13

and publicly speak our truth

44:15

. If you learn something new that

44:17

you had wrong in the past , that's fine

44:19

. Change , learn

44:21

from it . And that's something that he apparently

44:24

is unwilling or unable to do . In regards

44:26

to the jab , but each individual

44:28

person has the power to be

44:30

the media . You've got a phone

44:32

or a camera or you know somebody who does

44:35

just say what it is

44:37

you believe . Base it in

44:39

fact , put it out into the universe

44:41

, and I trust that they will

44:43

not be able to keep up with this swarm

44:45

of bees . Everyone around the world

44:48

speaking truth to power

44:50

. Their lies will crumble

44:52

, but not if we're silent . We

44:54

have to speak up .

44:56

Yeah , and I think this is a huge undertaking

44:58

, even for the so-called globalist as well

45:00

, because you've got so many different arms , you've

45:03

got the World Health Organization and you

45:05

have all these people involved with the world

45:08

economic form , that there's

45:10

just so many loose ends that they

45:12

can't even tie together to control

45:14

people , and I think you mentioned it

45:16

in several episodes where there's

45:18

pushback from other countries with

45:21

this global pandemic , these

45:23

amendments and whatnot , with the

45:25

World Health Organization , so

45:27

it's almost impossible

45:29

for them to globalize and have

45:32

One world government

45:34

. What's your take on that ?

45:36

If , if it seems like we're playing whack-a-mole

45:39

with the different things that they're

45:41

trying to do , imagine

45:43

, from their point of view , trying to keep

45:45

eight billion people down . Okay

45:48

, the more people who stand up

45:50

and speak out , the harder it is

45:52

for them . They cannot stop us

45:54

all , but if we stop

45:56

ourselves , it makes their

45:58

job easier . So don't

46:00

be silent . Get the facts , read

46:03

the documents , read the information . I've

46:05

tried to make it simple . Share that

46:07

with the next person , as People

46:10

become more clear and

46:12

aware of what's going on . Everyone

46:15

I've ever talked to about this looks at the information

46:17

and their gut response is

46:19

are they crazy ? Yeah

46:21

, hell , no , we're not going for that

46:24

. It's only the lack

46:26

of awareness that is

46:28

problematic . Your silence is consent

46:30

. Share this video , share it with

46:32

the next person , go through the various

46:35

websites and all the information , and if anybody

46:37

has any question , just give me a phone call 310

46:39

619 3055

46:42

. I don't know everything , that's for sure

46:44

. Nobody really does , and I

46:47

do have a good grasp

46:49

on what's going on with the WHO . And

46:51

if you have any questions , just give me a call the

46:54

best grasp .

46:55

That's why I always have you on the show . I'm

46:57

gonna actually dedicate a segment to you on my

46:59

new show . All right , who

47:01

are you ? With James Ruggusky , and

47:03

you give us the updates at least once a week . Thanks

47:06

, again . James for joining me for this episode of the medical

47:08

truth podcast . Thanks , Thanks

47:10

for having me , you got it All

47:13

right .

47:14

Thanks for listening to the medical truth podcast

47:17

. For the latest episode , go to wwwmedicaltruthpodcastcom

47:22

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47:24

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47:27

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47:29

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47:32

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