With Allen (@amedlock1) still out prepping for Nathan Hale's opener on February 20, Daniel has the chance to sit down with Katie Woo (The Athletic, @katiejwoo) for their annual conversation. How rough was it to cover the 2023 Cardinals? Was she glad when the season was finally over? Did she see the leadership void that the club has spoken of this winter? The two also get into the winter moves by the Cardinals as well as what Katie is looking forward to the most about going to Jupiter in a couple of weeks. Also we get a cameo by Katie's cat, which should be great for ratings!Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices