Ken talks with Keith Call “Pondering the Permanent Things” (Ignatius Press) and Rachel Bulman “Becoming Wife: Saying Yes to More than the Dress” (Ours Sunday Visitor). Keith’s book available at: https://ignatius.com/pondering-the-permanent-things-pptp/ and Rachel’s book at: https://www.orderosv.com/author/rachel-bulman Follow Rachel at: https://www.rachelbulman.com/