In this episode of the Meliora Podcast from the Sustainability & Resilience Institute at the University of Southampton we have a lovely chat with two of our utterly awesome alumni, Jon Coello and Lucy Marum to discuss their fascinating career routes, the criticality of the circular economy, and how the work of just two (admittedly great) people can make a profound difference.

However, that description only touches the surface. We discuss how and why Lucy and Jon became interested in sustainability all the way back to their childhoods, their degrees in Environmental Science at Southampton, early career work, happy coincidences, and the important work they are leading today.

We discuss dinosaurs, asteroids, hedgehogs, spaceship earth, vintage computer games, systems thinkings, the value of data, modelling tools, convenience, circular economy, the problems with the linear economy, doughnut economics, fast fashion, local repairs, community work, and ultimately how visionary tech companies can make a global difference at the local level.

Read more about Jon & Lucy's work at Cirevo here: https://www.cirevo.com/

Episode guests: Jon Coello and Lucy Marum of Cirevo
Episode host: Prof Simon Kemp
Episode editor: Lily Killner

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