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Lookout, look. Out for it. And I guess it comes

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through consistency right

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now. The reason

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I want to talk

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to you

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about consistency was,

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what someone, someone did a post on social media and

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it wasn't like it wasn't

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too over the top.

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They weren't saying,

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Hey, look at me.

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I've done this

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for three weeks in a row.

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It was something like,

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I do recall now

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they basically put a post

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saying I fallen off the bandwagon

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of whatever

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they were doing. It was something to do

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with health and fitness

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falling off the bandwagon. I'm going to

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get back into it now. This is going to be

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awesome.

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And a few weeks

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afterwards, once again,

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everything happened, right? Okay. And the bit that struck me

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and I did a social post

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about this as well was

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I went to the gym

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that morning,

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took a photo of myself

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just off the floor

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with just sweat piling up. And on my mind was like,

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Man, I do this day

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in, day out, week, months.

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Yeah, decade.

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And for a lot of pop, probably

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for the rest of my life. Hopefully, hopefully.

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I don't know that

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you do this in other feats

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right now. I want to put some numbers

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as well

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around consistency,

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which will get us started.

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I'm going to ask you

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a particular question

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about consistency

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if you have.

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Well, I'm going to I'm going to preload you

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with a question. What's up reading this?

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What do you think you've been the most consistent

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at in your life?

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Yeah, just

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like numbers or thing.

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And if if you can

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give me a reason as to why

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that particular thing,

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I'm going to give you some numbers while you think about that

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kind shop in more.

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Lots of time. Currently have 6619

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lines of training

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on my Excel spreadsheet

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of my current

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training to today,

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and that's actually only

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from the 15th of May 2023.

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And I do have books

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and a few other things

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that date back all the way to the early 2010

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zero nine, 2008,

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1677 consecutive days

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of detail.

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Generally, that's another one

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that I've pulled up. Less dates

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for the sleep tracking, but you kind of

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get the idea.

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342 daily journals.

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So my daughter and again, these are all consistency,

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okay?

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It just hasn't been missed. It just continues

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on and on and on and on. So I hit

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668 days

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consecutive on Duolingo,

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albeit not much,

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but it's consistent

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now. Those have been a few of them, but definitely

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the one that's been of more consistency to me

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has been that training

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and whether it's been actually doing it

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or writing it. I mean, here you kind of

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want to be performing

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the action

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and my call out as to why

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it's been so consistent,

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I honestly think

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it was from team sports.

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It was a little bit

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from when I used to do

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swimming and I was much younger. But I think when I started

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doing soccer

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primarily that one builds

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a lot of consistency.

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I don't know. Why. More than any others

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and why specifically

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the team aspect of it,

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but I think there was a cadence of how you train

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on a Wednesday

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and you do some of the training on the Thursday

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and you shoot,

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you know, you take some penalty

4:21

shots on a particular day and then you go and play

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your game on the weekend

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and you go again and again. You go out again.

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And it just feels like that kind of like

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repetitive loop. But with the added

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factor of friends and people that you want to

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participate with,

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I guess made it easy to build up the consistency.

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I guess it was kind of like force discipline, consistency,

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but for me, so I mean

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me more or less, I'm done as yet. For me, the consistency

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thing that I am, it'd be

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specifically for training.

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So there's a couple of numbers. Tara What would be

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your consistency?

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King In your life

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and what are you reckon?

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Want Yeah, yeah,

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it'd be something similar.

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Hey, the and I was

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thinking,

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yeah, I'd probably

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go all the way back to,

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you know, when I was like seven

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or eight years old playing tennis

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and we didn't,

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we didn't really miss

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training sessions ever,

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you know, obviously sickness

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and things like that. But it was, it was never

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it was never like

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if I had a choice,

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would I miss it?

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I'd always just go to it. So the same thing

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with team sports and then

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moving into the gym

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and stuff like that.

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I don't have numbers here. I wonder, I'm

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curious about your numbers in the sense that is it

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every day, Juan.

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Is it every day or, you know, is it

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the kind of like Duolingo,

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you get us a streak freeze

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for a day or two here

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and and you

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so you said like what?

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Daily Journal for like 600

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days, correct.

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As up in every single day. Every single day.

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Every day.

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So like the days when you

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when do

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you do this journal.

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So usually and and yeah. Okay good pick up here.

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I haven't missed it

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inputting data into the

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into every single day

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but there has been a few days and I didn't do it daily.

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Like on the actual day. On the actual day.

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And that's, that's. What I mean That's one

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that I retrospectively

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feel. Yes.

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Yes. Okay. The last four days. Something for sure.

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For sure. Yeah. Okay. That's

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that's what I was getting at the string phrase of,

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of journaling.

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So the I'm very similar

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in that sense,

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which is, you know, I've,

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I used to have

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a journal as well and

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I probably got up to like

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I don't know, two

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or three years worth of daily thing, some similar thing

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where there would be something

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important on each day, whether I wrote it

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on the actual day,

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95% of the time I did. But you know, that

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would be one third skip.

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So yes, similar

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sort of sort of thing.

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You know, someone commented recently

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that that I'm like a health nut and, and I, I did. Yeah.

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And I disagree with that.

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I would disagree with that too. Yeah. I'm, I'm

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very keen into fitness

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and that's about as far as it goes health wise. It's weird actually.

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That's a really

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that's a really

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good call out

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because even me.

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But I don't know if I'd be a health nut, you know, I'm not taking

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my multivitamin every day

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and I forget all the time. Like that's

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one of the actually, that's a good call that. I mean,

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you take their supplements

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more let's say that the cards it takes like nothing

7:22

right. I take water. Fluoride.

7:25

My blood my brother was disgusted that I only drink

7:27

really water.

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It's like do you drink anything else

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like juice or, you know,

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soft drinks or anything? I'm like, Yeah,

7:34

not really you.

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I begin. I began when I was. Younger and then my.

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Parents and I, we used to

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it was just being from just not knowing that when we were growing up

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we drank. We used to buy maybe two

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two litre bottles of coke

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and we used to have that

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every night for dinner.

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You sat like a glass of

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two glasses and just.

7:55

Sharing a box of family.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now, I mean,

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now it's similar to mine.

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I'm basically

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water apart from tea

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and sometimes some juice

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and then alcohol.

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If I'm having like a chat with you or chat with friends,

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that's basically it.

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There's no like real mix

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up that's really needed.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like a slight diversion

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there. But yeah, that was,

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that was the kind of thing

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where it's like,

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I, I suppose this relates

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to consistency where it's

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if people see you doing

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something

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that they might add

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on top of that.

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So for example,

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if lots of people

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see me at the gym day

8:32

in, day out,

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they might think that

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I'm really into like

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I'm consistently

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that a gap strong

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or get big or something,

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which is not the case.

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I'm that I consistently

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get better at the skills

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that I'm trying to do because they're more

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skill based movement and

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there's this where I think it's like consistency

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can can kind of maybe like mask what what

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you're actually up to.

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And I've got some thoughts on whether it is actually

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a good quality or not.

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So really I. Believe that is a.

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I can't leave that for

9:04

a little bit of temptation

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to see Hook for people.

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Yeah.

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I wanted to ask you

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this on the so

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I'm going to list out

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a couple of

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just like one liners and I think

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we can talk about it. One of them being

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so it's the compounding

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effect of consistency

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where small steps taken

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consistently

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create some massive impact in some way, shape or form

9:28

and something actually

9:28

happened today, dude,

9:31

where I was telling you something about what I've been up to

9:34

in my personal life

9:34

just before the podcast.

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I won't be able to share it here, but you're understand

9:38

the story as I say it fully

9:40

and I'll try and divulge as much as I can

9:41

for the Me immortalised. So I've been doing did

9:43

a 12 week running plan.

9:48

I like four months ago,

9:48

five months ago.

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I'd done one before a

9:50

little while ago as well.

9:54

Wasn't as successful

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as I did it

9:57

and it wasn't

9:57

until the last few months

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where I've found it,

10:01

I've told you this

10:04

and I've mentioned it before. We're always a label of anxiety

10:07

of going for a run just mentally. And I think

10:10

that was more attributed

10:10

to shit like, I'm

10:12

not I'm not going to perform here. Like to

10:13

perform everywhere else that's

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starting to sweat away.

10:18

But again, it's the small,

10:18

consistent steps and

10:22

the numbers are about to say to you, it's not gigantic.

10:25

It's like I've been doing five kilometres,

10:28

ten kilometres

10:28

of over a week running

10:31

for a couple of weeks now, and over

10:32

the last few weeks it's been a slow progression

10:35

ten kilometres, 12 kilometres, 13 kilometres

10:36

and 16 kilometres.

10:40

And then today

10:40

I felt like a slug

10:43

at the gym

10:43

that I'm in felt terrible.

10:45

I was like, I don't want to do this and I want to be. Yeah, it was

10:47

it was slim on the ground,

10:47

not small this time.

10:50

There was slime in the ground as I was

10:52

consistently showing up, but it was slimy

10:55

and I went and parked

10:55

the car near work.

10:58

I was going to go

10:58

and I went, You know what?

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I'm going to run to this location. It's a little far away.

11:04

I just want to see it personally,

11:05

you know, today for what this particular reason,

11:07

I didn't even check

11:10

how far away it was as well. I'm going to run there.

11:13

Why not? Fuck it. I just went.

11:15

Rand ended up

11:15

being three kilometres

11:17

to get there

11:17

from where I parked it

11:19

and it was the first time

11:19

that I go, Wow.

11:24

Just I wasn't necessarily

11:24

anxious

11:27

that I wasn't going to reach this. There wasn't

11:28

any performance metrics.

11:31

And when I arrived it was like,

11:32

yeah, this was, you know,

11:34

you normally have

11:34

like a post run or post

11:38

workout like euphoria

11:38

and high energy.

11:41

Time felt out as I was

11:41

going through, right?

11:43

Like as I was going along and I was like,

11:44

this is really cool. But again,

11:47

that level of consistency and if you see it externally,

11:49

I felt it internally, but if you would see it

11:51

externally and I got a message

11:52

from someone about this particular

11:54

run this morning as well,

11:57

and it

11:57

kind of struck me as,

11:59

yeah, it's the small

11:59

incremental steps.

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I don't think you can have

12:05

consistency in like just one. Do I get like

12:07

in a few gigantic leaps?

12:11

Would you agree or disagree? yeah. Like getting towards

12:12

a goal?

12:17

I suppose so, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, probably.

12:21

Actually. No, no, I'll take that back. So I think when I think of

12:24

consistency,

12:24

I think of, you know,

12:26

repeatable actions

12:26

of basically

12:30

the same action I guess.

12:32

And when I'm trying

12:32

to think of,

12:36

I think we're very much similar in our mindsets

12:37

when it comes to this,

12:40

in that, yeah, like we want to do the thing all the time, you know,

12:44

show up every day,

12:44

that sort of thing,

12:47

especially if it's something we enjoy. But I wonder

12:49

when it comes to people

12:51

who are like more artistic

12:51

perhaps,

12:54

or they are perhaps more

12:54

spontaneous in nature,

12:58

whether they can achieve

13:01

the things that they want to achieve in life, and if

13:05

they can do it by it,

13:05

not looking consistent.

13:08

So I'll just think of my

13:08

ex, for example.

13:11

She she's a

13:11

she's a pretty good draw.

13:14

She should create these really nice watercolours

13:15

and things like this.

13:18

But it was very spur

13:18

of the moment

13:20

when she would do it and you know,

13:21

sometimes should be like, I'm not in the mood

13:22

for it for a month. And then she would

13:24

make five in a day.

13:28

And so she still kind of

13:28

got the reps

13:30

in in a certain extent. If you took it

13:32

over the long term. But if you looked on

13:33

like a more monthly

13:36

or even weekly basis,

13:36

you'd be like, Man,

13:39

this girl's not consistent at all. She must be terrible

13:40

at drawing. So on.

13:44

I do believe that Khan has

13:47

dropped out, unfortunately. So let's proceed

13:48

until the man comes back.

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No time was talking about. Yes, I guess consistency

13:53

in the face of,

14:00

I guess, the variety.

14:02

I guess when I think of

14:02

consistency, I

14:05

particularly look at it

14:05

as it has to be

14:08

day to day run.

14:11

And I guess I would kind of ponder it more so with cadence.

14:11

Okay.

14:14

If you are the cadence

14:14

of every week

14:18

or every month, then you're

14:19

repetitive with it,

14:22

then I think it can be good. But I do believe

14:23

having our glorious

14:28

Karen Michael down joining

14:28

us back and again, I.

14:30

Might be I might be back I don't know

14:31

if I live the. Is he is back we do appear

14:33

to be continuing

14:36

hasn't stopped yet. Okay

14:36

brilliant. Awesome.

14:38

Yeah apologies on my internet actually all of today was

14:40

was, glitching out a bit.

14:44

can you record your audio just to make sure on your.

14:46

It is

14:46

it is currently recording.

14:48

But kind. Of doubling down

14:50

on what you were saying. I think there's

14:51

a difference between consistency.

14:54

Well, no, no, the

14:54

difference there is some

14:58

similarities. So I guess comparisons

14:59

like yes,

15:01

you can't you can't be consistent

15:03

and it might appear

15:03

like certainly

15:05

that it isn't at the face of it,

15:07

but if the cadence

15:07

is repetitive,

15:10

then it's still good. So I'll I'll give you

15:11

a direct example.

15:14

And there's this little, little hint

15:15

at my monthly goals.

15:17

One of my monthly goals this particular month

15:18

was Hey, read daily.

15:22

The French book

15:24

now made it very clear

15:24

daily, like weekly.

15:27

It's not fortnightly time.

15:29

You want to take a guess

15:29

at what cadence

15:32

I'm currently reading the book. You would have failed it

15:34

within like the first three

15:35

days, correct? I haven't read

15:36

a single date. Not a single day

15:38

has been done. And is that because

15:40

you missed the first day?

15:42

No, it's it's not.

15:44

It's just fallen

15:44

down the bandwagon. Yeah.

15:47

You know, some personal stuff that's happening

15:48

in terms of priorities date, it's

15:50

way down the list.

15:52

But the thing is,

15:52

if I said

15:54

I'm going to every month, one day

15:57

I'm going to read heavy,

16:01

then you could still be consistent. I could still be.

16:03

I would say that

16:03

that's still consistency

16:05

at the cadence

16:05

that you set,

16:08

just because a lot of the things that we're finding that we're talking about

16:10

is being consistent

16:13

consistently, daily, showing up

16:14

in terms of training or putting down notes.

16:17

I don't think you can you can still call it

16:19

consistent if you're doing it

16:20

at a different cadence,

16:23

as long as you're then following through on those actions

16:24

and whatever cadence it is

16:27

that is important to you. Yeah, I think what I was

16:28

going to get at before was

16:31

if you're not consistent, I don't think it's

16:33

that bad of a thing.

16:35

It's not it's not a mega trait, which I would say

16:37

is really essential

16:37

to have because

16:40

with with language learning, for example, generally

16:42

the stats indicate

16:45

that you're better off doing 15 minutes

16:46

a day for six days a week

16:50

rather than an hour

16:50

and a half on a Sunday

16:54

once a week. That's that's generally

16:56

what they what they recommend. Perhaps.

16:59

Perhaps not exactly that

16:59

because 15 minutes

17:02

man that's that takes a bit of warm

17:03

up time as well so maybe it's more like

17:06

half an hour a day rather than 3 hours

17:08

on one single day.

17:11

But you can still get

17:11

a lot done with 3 hours

17:13

in a single day so that this is where it's

17:14

just like

17:17

maybe it's not

17:17

the most optimal strategy,

17:20

but who whoever has the

17:20

optimal strategy anyway?

17:23

You know, I try and get to the gym

17:25

every afternoon,

17:25

but sometimes

17:28

it's a little bit close to the evenings. Sometimes, you know,

17:29

I stuff up

17:33

or I miscalculated

17:33

how long I was thinking of

17:37

doing a bar class today. I stuffed it up

17:39

by about 20 minutes.

17:41

And so I was I was like,

17:42

Well, I'd have to really

17:44

speed up my work out or just miss it. So I was like, I'll just

17:46

I'll just miss it. Whatever. It's

17:47

not that big a deal. And yeah, this is where

17:49

I just kind of think like

17:52

consistency is nice, but I see a whole lot

17:55

of people not needing it

17:58

and still doing pretty

17:58

well for themselves.

18:00

Yeah, well, I would split

18:00

that up as well.

18:02

Run into

18:05

at least two splits.

18:08

I don't think you should be too worried about

18:09

consistency of quality,

18:13

but you should be concerned about consistency of effort.

18:17

And I think that's

18:20

like if I had to explain

18:20

this to my daughter

18:22

or somebody else, I would say, don't the

18:24

consistency of quality.

18:28

Sometimes

18:28

it's out of your control

18:30

and sometimes it can be okay if this isn't achieved

18:33

in the broader context

18:33

of viewing consistency.

18:36

What I mean by that, if every day

18:38

I went to the gym and I said, I'm

18:39

in a bench press

18:41

and every day

18:41

the quality is going to be

18:43

really perfect

18:43

for bench press.

18:45

And I'm hitting

18:45

a particular white, maybe

18:48

linear progression, maybe not. Whatever one of

18:50

the days is going to miss.

18:54

Looking at that specifically,

18:55

that doesn't mean that I'm not being consistent.

18:58

But if you look at it just from a quality

18:59

perspective, I think

19:01

you're starting off with a

19:01

like a losing view

19:03

that's probably not

19:03

not even that's fair

19:06

from what you're saying at go well I wouldn't like you don't have don't

19:08

put that much of an effort or how much of a weight

19:10

towards the consistency of

19:13

the outcome that you're

19:13

putting through.

19:16

But the consistency of effort I think is important

19:18

that one is,

19:22

you know, whether the other way to phrase

19:25

it would be like

19:25

whether you showed up

19:27

to do something to

19:30

take forward what you actually want to do

19:31

regardless of the outcome.

19:33

I think that aspect

19:33

of consistency

19:37

is probably what

19:37

what makes consistency.

19:40

If I was having to

19:40

dissect it down

19:42

but makes the overall anyways, what I would see

19:43

fit is how.

19:46

Yeah, that person's consistent I guess. I mean it more in

19:49

how that person's

19:49

kind of like showing up

19:51

repeatedly to whatever

19:51

degree that means to them.

19:54

How are you defining consistent

19:56

in your own head? Have you got a definition

19:58

that. Yeah, but I just want

19:59

to know what you're yeah. Let me say am.

20:02

So consistency

20:02

in my mind I would say is

20:08

the ability to repeatedly

20:08

perform an action.

20:12

At a.

20:14

Preset cadence of time.

20:17

Yeah it's similar. So consistency

20:18

see all the different

20:21

all the definitions

20:21

are about like I'm

20:23

of a substance and,

20:23

and in terms of arguments

20:27

and making logical coherence

20:27

and things but consistent

20:30

the adjective acting or done

20:31

in the same way over time, especially so

20:32

as to be fair or accurate

20:36

and I don't think you need

20:39

that consistent effort

20:39

to be honest.

20:43

It doesn't need to be repeated over time. I think you could

20:45

you can space it out

20:45

if you want and do it like

20:48

really concentrated the

20:48

and then not for a while.

20:51

And it's it's not a not a bad thing if you're

20:53

if you don't have that. Well and I guess that's

20:55

where I'd push back and say

20:56

but that's

20:58

that's the cadence. Right. So I agree if you

21:04

is a consistency, if

21:06

you say I'm going to go daily to the gym, but then you only go

21:08

once a month and you have a really cracking workout,

21:12

I kind of go back because you said

21:13

you were going to go the cadence is going

21:14

to be daily. So there's not

21:16

as much consistency there.

21:19

But if someone said, I'm going to paint once

21:21

a month or I'm going to paint

21:24

when inspiration hits me,

21:24

and maybe that's

21:26

maybe that's like

21:26

really variable,

21:29

but at least that's consistency there. When that emotion is felt

21:32

or a broader

21:32

amount of time,

21:35

then you go, okay,

21:35

I'm going to do it now.

21:38

That's consistent. Yeah,

21:39

maybe we've got different

21:42

definitions of

21:42

in the same way over time.

21:46

I would say it needs to be

21:49

it does need to have

21:49

a regular cadence

21:51

if it was going to be consistent. But I've got to.

21:55

Allow if anyone's listening to. Want to allow it.

21:58

Thank you. On if there's anyone if there's only me,

22:00

I'm listening right now live,

22:02

Let me know if you allow the slow process

22:04

from Karen or if you are to disagree

22:05

with mine

22:09

consistency

22:09

versus intensity.

22:13

So one

22:16

one piece that kind of came to mind when I was thinking about

22:17

this is

22:20

it's often when I see

22:20

people on social media

22:23

who go real hard because this is where

22:24

you'll see a lot. You'll see

22:26

heaps of people. Honestly, this would have

22:30

been consistent, I don't think ever really gets thrown about

22:33

when I'm talking

22:33

to a person on the street.

22:36

Not really. Even when I'm talking to

22:39

I've been talking to a few business owners over

22:40

the last couple of weeks just from like in

22:41

different scenarios

22:44

has a little bit of that. But where you see it

22:45

a lot on social media,

22:48

that's where you see it like ton mode. It's like be consistent

22:50

or use five times,

22:52

ten times a day post

22:52

whatever and look

22:56

all the best to it if you've got the outcome for it

22:58

and what's coming through. But there's

23:00

also the balance of,

23:03

Hey, how intense

23:03

are you being and how long

23:06

can you maintain this

23:06

consistency?

23:10

I try to

23:10

I think in general,

23:13

even though it might not feel like it sometimes in some things,

23:14

I would favour the

23:18

the longer term game,

23:18

the more consistent

23:21

over time game

23:21

then the intensely done

23:26

for whatever time period

23:26

until the consistency

23:29

just falls off. The wheels, come off

23:31

for some other preset

23:34

determination

23:34

happens to it.

23:37

Do you think

23:39

in the game of consistency

23:39

versus

23:42

the intensity of it,

23:45

you would ever side

23:45

with intensity

23:48

over consistency? Where do you sit

23:49

on the balance? Yeah,

23:50

I'd definitely be more on the consistent side

23:52

of things. A top

23:53

ten hustle consistency

23:55

and go go to see

23:55

what comes out.

23:57

And yeah, you're right

23:57

it's. Maybe.

23:59

It's not it's not Gary

23:59

Vee but, but there's,

24:02

it's certainly like you know from a

24:05

productivity blog it's

24:07

you a comfortable consistency

24:08

and funnily enough

24:10

it's like trying to spin it as an anti hustle thing

24:11

or you can have,

24:15

what is this

24:15

consistency inside hustles

24:18

or hustle Hustle work

24:18

hard with consistency.

24:22

What was that even mean?

24:24

Yeah, it definitely is a

24:24

is more of a

24:28

it does have that kind of hustle motivation

24:29

type type

24:31

feel to it, doesn't it? And I think

24:33

the at least for me, I go,

24:36

if you look at consistency like that and then you go, Well, I'm

24:38

going to consistently

24:41

do something that just if you actually

24:42

stretch it out or not

24:44

enough of a long term

24:44

future, you go, Wait,

24:47

you can't keep that up forever. So is it really the game

24:48

you want to be playing

24:51

to be consistent in? Like if you want to build

24:52

the reps at

24:55

if we were doing

24:55

ten podcast per day

24:57

and we're building ourselves to handle that

24:59

or to do that

24:59

or to have the assets,

25:02

is it even smart to build that consistency? Because

25:04

I don't know about you,

25:06

but there's no way

25:06

I'd be keeping up

25:08

ten of the current format

25:08

shows that we do right?

25:11

There's

25:11

no way it wouldn't happen.

25:14

We, the mere mortals, if if you haven't been around here

25:16

for a little while, I mean, what was podcast?

25:18

We were on a pace

25:18

of one podcast a day.

25:21

That was actually eight,

25:21

if I included the reason.

25:26

Yes, in Spanglish. So I was a proper

25:27

eight podcast a week.

25:30

Yeah, that was a release

25:30

of eight things a week.

25:33

Yeah. So it's a little bit 1.1

25:35

something recurring in terms of how much

25:37

we were releasing.

25:39

It was a. A little bit more than and

25:43

looking back at that, I don't know how long we did that for

25:45

maybe someone.

25:47

Jason Time. Yeah. Decent time period.

25:49

I'd say at least six months. Something like that. Yeah.

25:51

It was a good long Wow that was look

25:52

and again you can call that

25:54

period of time.

25:56

Yes we were consistent

25:58

but versus the intensity

25:58

that that required

26:02

meant that I couldn't be consistent for a long

26:03

term pathway. And I think

26:07

often people fall down the wagon of things being

26:11

intense and loading up

26:14

to the creation

26:14

of consistency for that

26:17

when in reality, I mean, I don't know

26:19

about you at this point.

26:22

I don't think I see

26:22

anything anymore as, Hey,

26:24

I'm going to build that consistency unless I can do it

26:26

for the rest of my life.

26:29

You know, I'll be willing

26:29

to go through like

26:33

spurts of things

26:33

I'd be like.

26:35

So, for example, when I go to Brazil,

26:37

I do plan on doing

26:37

a pretty kind of intensive

26:41

thing related

26:41

to Portuguese learning it.

26:45

And I do plan on doing that basically just for

26:47

the kind of three months

26:49

that I'm there

26:49

and actually using it,

26:51

because that's just a really unique situation. I'm not going to get

26:53

an opportunity like that really maybe ever again.

26:57

So that that's one where

26:57

I'm like, I plan on

27:01

being consistent every day

27:01

for probably like

27:04

an hour, three months,

27:04

roughly ish of three,

27:08

3 hours of study maybe,

27:08

and then trying out and

27:12

add on as much talking

27:12

as I can on top of that.

27:15

But obviously, I won't continue that

27:17

for the rest of my life. So I think there's

27:20

still room

27:20

for bursts of of things

27:23

where it does have

27:23

a bit more intensity to it

27:26

and does require

27:26

that daily or repeated

27:29

action over time. But it's it won't

27:30

the goal is not to,

27:36

you know, become

27:38

so good at Portuguese that it's like

27:40

the most important thing in my life. So to do deal

27:41

would be like I just I'd love to get

27:43

conversational in it.

27:45

I think that would be awesome. Yeah. Okay.

27:47

No, no, that's a good point. Yeah, I can

27:49

I can see how there might be some things

27:51

that you'd

27:53

this point in time in life

27:53

that it would be

27:56

fine to have a certain time and then

27:57

lose that consistency.

28:00

Maybe that's the

28:00

it's the medical wishes of

28:04

putting

28:04

I guess what actions

28:06

in place to achieve

28:06

X outcome of your office

28:10

on a consistent basis. Maybe it's

28:12

those sort of qualities

28:12

that maybe go towards

28:14

the entirety of life.

28:14

And that's a good point.

28:17

Yeah. Okay. I'm trying to

28:19

find this meme that I

28:19

that I saw the other day.

28:23

It was something along

28:23

the lines of like,

28:26

I just turned 30

28:26

and no one told me

28:28

that all my friends would

28:28

start doing marathons.

28:31

Yeah, it's

28:34

I thought that was so bang on. And I was just like,

28:36

my God, all my friends are getting into running. It's weird, since when we.

28:40

Launched in. Manchester. Etc. I think

28:42

this is a weird trend

28:42

at the moment going with

28:45

there's a lot more run club. We're talking

28:46

Australia here tonight as a global thing,

28:49

but there's a lot more run clubs, there's a lot more people

28:51

pivoting into doing running. I'm saying

28:53

just a lot of shoes,

28:56

a lot of material stuff being produced for running.

28:59

I would I would probably take a step further. I think it's

29:02

no one ever told me that

29:02

when you went past 30,

29:05

everyone would become more aligned

29:07

to endurance versus

29:07

the intensity of velocity

29:11

sprinting. How many of our friends

29:12

do we see doing sprints,

29:15

you know, getting into sprinting or something

29:16

of high intensity, like short

29:18

bursts of energy?

29:20

Not many. Everyone's either

29:23

sedentary or going towards

29:23

doing more longer

29:26

endurance type movements. Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

29:30

Who knows? Could, could be

29:32

another little fun thing

29:32

I learned recently.

29:34

I was listening

29:34

to a podcast

29:37

where they were talking about the death of shopping

29:38

malls in America.

29:40

Is appear to be a bubble

29:40

and balderdash.

29:43

And as they were talking about this,

29:45

I was like, you know what? I can't think of any

29:46

abandoned shopping

29:48

malls here in Australia. Is is this just a

29:49

US thing? And it

29:51

turns out it actually was because at

29:54

least according to read it and the amount of threads

29:56

being of people being like,

29:58

I'm in Australia and we don't do we have a shopping

30:00

mall crisis or anything like that. And this,

30:02

this was just due

30:05

to like

30:05

the unique makeup of

30:07

shopping malls in America. Most of them don't

30:08

have a grocery in them.

30:13

Most of them are kind of

30:13

like retail of

30:15

shoes and shirts

30:15

and things like that.

30:19

And when online shopping

30:19

came,

30:22

grocery like grocery shopping didn't

30:23

really get affected, but online shopping,

30:24

decimated clothing

30:27

and things like that. And hence, like all of these shopping

30:29

malls, they had basically

30:31

just became untenable.

30:34

Literally untenable.

30:36

Because yeah, I didn't think about that,

30:38

actually. I didn't think about

30:40

those think back to the time to go into shopping

30:41

centres. And you're right, there wasn't a Woollies

30:43

or a Coles,

30:45

and I always found that

30:45

to be an issue.

30:48

I remember being difficult

30:48

to go to a grocer

30:51

that I wanted fresh produce, you know, just going

30:53

to a shopping centre and that you

30:55

just have the food court

30:55

and then you have to eat a

30:59

panda express

30:59

or something else

31:01

like that, and you'd be

31:01

like rain on fresh fruit.

31:03

So yeah. So, so the running,

31:04

the running thing could just be a

31:08

could, could just be an Aussie thing is, is definitely

31:09

possible.

31:11

True. That's very true. Let's

31:13

get into the bitumen. Let's do it.

31:16

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32:36

now we have gotten

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So we do have this one

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32:53

That's phenomenal talk. Jason.

32:56

Sounds like a wicked smart guy. His vision

32:58

for video is something I see, too, when my his poem

33:00

enables it.

33:02

Video will be key.

33:06

Okay, guy. Now we got.

33:07

The video will be key. Our thoughts are

33:13

a type of it. A type of it. I'd be down.

33:15

Yeah, well, we'll do an episode on this

33:17

in like an a week or two. But there's I see

33:21

a, I see a point

33:21

for video, just perhaps

33:23

not in the way that calls imagining. Okay. Yeah.

33:26

And pod home is the

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were debating at looking

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because they do have a lot

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Do we have any better

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options right now.

33:41

Well I mean blueberries they say they're

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all of this new stuff,

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so that'll be cool

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because I've already moved two of our shows

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on to there. But, but Sprout has been

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very laggard in there,

33:53

and especially

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when I requested

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especially the Lit, that's

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all I really wanted.

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And yeah, they've

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been laggard on it.

34:01

So a cool new host has

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popped up so I'm willing

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and move it over and

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spend the time and energy

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to do that and And yeah.

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Calls using pod Harmon seems to be doing

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well with them as well. So yeah, more proof

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If you do send through enough

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So you send through to the podcasts, you're

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Yes, I think

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there's t shirts left.

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Let me check my thing.

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No, 19 left.

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So 19 left. Technically,

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that makes it, what, 1900

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dollars

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In value or even a bit even a bit

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more than that now. Even a bit more.

35:11

Unbelievable. This is fighting

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I and I'm and I'm just

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keeping it in my

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you know, room here

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with it's more expensive

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than the camera equipment,

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the lighting equipment,

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the microphones,

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you know like yeah.

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At this point, folks, you're paying for the dehumidifier

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and mothball

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like to keep out

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These things are expensive. I'm going to have

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to get a Volt to the.

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Utility sector to keep it

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consistent as well.

35:41

Anything on the paper? I good and I'm pretty

35:42

sure I'm pretty sure I get

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a message when

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when that comes through

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but I will double check

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that just

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just because you called it out and you can also stream

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in as well. We don't call that

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the streaming payments because they're the too hard to do on a

35:56

on a weekly basis. But

36:00

if you are

36:00

if you do stream in,

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I will notice that. And maybe

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at the end of the month

36:06

I can call you out

36:08

if if I see you've been doing a lot. But I know people like

36:09

MKR and

36:14

who else? I know some people

36:16

just tuning into various

36:16

different things.

36:21

Sorry, I had. I have this.

36:23

I wasn't sure if you're recording, and when I click

36:24

this button here,

36:26

it just blasted my ears

36:26

with this

36:29

pre-recorded music. I'm glad

36:31

no one else heard that. But yeah, don't.

36:33

If you're hearing me or

36:33

seeing me wince, that's.

36:36

That's the reason. That's the reason. Why

36:36

I've just turned it off.

36:39

No, nope,

36:39

nope, nope. Okay.

36:41

Got to be consistent about it. So back to consistency.

36:44

I wanted to actually ask you a question also in the valley

36:46

for Valley Space,

36:48

because you absorb a lot more of the valley value content that's being

36:52

put out there into the aether. You say Comcast,

36:54

you name it. How important is consistency

36:56

in that's for you?

36:59

Yeah, I moderate.

37:03

I don't know this. This is where it's

37:04

kind of hard to tell in some cases

37:06

because

37:09

I've taken a big gap with the Valley Value podcast,

37:11

for example, it's about three months,

37:12

maybe four. And jumping back into it

37:14

again, you know, support

37:18

been pretty good, feels

37:18

it hasn't feel

37:20

like I've needed

37:20

to drag people back in

37:23

just a little bit of you

37:23

know, social posting

37:26

saying like hey, this is starting up again. I might

37:29

have lost some people who were showing up

37:30

every every week.

37:35

But, you know, I think I think

37:37

kind of like once

37:37

I'm ten weeks into it,

37:40

it will get back to the

37:40

that stage where it is,

37:43

you know, regular people

37:43

showing up every time.

37:46

And yet if you compare that

37:48

to like the book reviews, for example, men, that's

37:49

consistent podcast ads.

37:53

It's been a long time

37:53

since we've

37:56

I know that was just

37:56

a transition period once

38:00

probably about

38:00

five months ago where.

38:02

I was to say statistically

38:03

was I reckon we've debated

38:06

1% of the time, half a percent of the time

38:10

the entire thing has been in existence. Yeah, exactly.

38:13

The the book reviews

38:13

are probably even better

38:15

than, than this

38:15

show, to be honest,

38:17

and it hasn't received

38:17

support.

38:21

And I put that down

38:21

mostly due to the crowd

38:25

it was attracting. And then also

38:27

the way I was asking,

38:27

and I probably

38:30

should have been from the very start, been asking for pay

38:31

for on the book reviews

38:35

and just consistently

38:35

ramming that home.

38:38

One thing I will

38:38

say though, is I think

38:41

doing the ask

38:44

is is something

38:44

that is important and

38:48

and trying to make it,

38:50

I guess, like friendly

38:50

for newbies as well

38:53

because there's a tendency

38:53

to be like, you know,

38:55

well what

38:55

600 episodes into this now

38:59

438 for these these ones

38:59

between you and me,

39:04

add in the monthly goals

39:04

on top of that as well.

39:06

And we'll just say

39:06

words like the you know,

39:10

like we've said them

39:10

400 times before we have

39:13

but someone new coming in and just be like

39:14

be scrambled. So I don't value value.

39:15

What does that mean? I don't know.

39:18

And so there is,

39:18

I think, a technique

39:22

to being consistent

39:22

in the ask.

39:25

For example, with your call

39:26

to action as well. And this is just straight

39:28

up, you know, like YouTube

39:28

advice as well.

39:31

Yeah, if you're

39:32

if you're creating YouTube videos,

39:33

you have to be really,

39:36

really on the money with, you know, asking your audience

39:38

to like and subscribe

39:38

and hit the bell

39:41

and all that sort of thing. And it's, you know,

39:43

you'll notice the same people doing

39:45

the same technique of,

39:47

bringing up this chart. Only 5% of the people

39:48

who watch

39:51

my videos are actually subscribed. Maybe you should change

39:52

that. You know, I'd like to.

39:55

So that sort of stuff. So yeah, I think

39:58

there is a lot of value

39:58

in, in repeatability.

40:02

And then the last

40:02

one on top of this was

40:05

so value for value music. So this is musicians

40:06

who are

40:09

kind of dissatisfied

40:09

with how

40:11

they've been treated

40:11

by Spotify and by Bandcamp

40:13

and all these sorts of places. Snoop

40:15

Dogg, You know, it goes from the very lowest

40:17

to the very highest.

40:19

Snoop Dogg, you know, got a billion plays

40:20

of his music and earned 45

40:24

K that, you know, that's

40:24

that's that's a pittance.

40:27

I was doing the math on it

40:27

and it's like .02.

40:31

So $0.02 per CPM

40:34

per cost per mil in pot.

40:37

Yeah. In podcasting

40:37

you could get a like 500 X

40:42

that if I'm doing my math right, you know, like

40:44

that's like a $10 CPM,

40:46

you can get even more than that. And, and so

40:51

for value music

40:51

is musician to a like okay

40:53

well I want to try doing

40:53

my music value for value.

40:56

I've never been able

40:56

to really put

40:59

podcast music

40:59

into podcasts before

41:01

because the licensing

41:01

is all sort of

41:04

you can't really do it. Radio stations

41:05

can kind of do it, but podcasts really

41:06

can't do it. This doesn't

41:07

fall under the same thing. And so

41:10

they're just putting music they own up

41:11

onto an RSS feed

41:14

and then people like me are grabbing it and putting it in my show

41:15

for the outro song

41:19

or there's, you know, dedicated music shows

41:21

which are kind of like radio DJ sets,

41:22

things like this.

41:25

And the repeatability of

41:29

Adam was saying this,

41:29

so he's, you know,

41:31

Adam Corey, former former

41:31

MTV, a former deejay

41:37

on pirate radio stations

41:37

in the Netherlands,

41:40

back in like the I don't know, 1980

41:41

something like that.

41:43

He forgot

41:46

one of the core tenants of radio, which is like

41:47

if you just repeat a song, enough times,

41:49

people like it. So

41:53

many of them. It's true. So many of the pop songs,

41:56

they're just

41:56

they're just catchy

41:58

because it's been repeated so many time. It's ingrained in the

42:00

brain and there's nothing

42:03

particularly about that song which is so much better

42:05

than any of the others.

42:09

And if you grabbed I argue, you know,

42:11

if you grabbed bloodshot

42:11

lies by the Doors

42:14

and you played it as much times as, you know,

42:16

one of Taylor Swift songs,

42:19

I think everyone would

42:19

still remember that song

42:23

just as much as they'd

42:23

remember any of, you know,

42:26

Taylor Swift songs or whatever. So that's

42:29

that's also getting to that kind of repeatability,

42:30

consistency, I guess, in a smaller,

42:32

smaller repeatability

42:36

aspect of it. But if you consistently

42:36

hear something

42:39

enough times that it'll get like lodged in your brain.

42:42

Yeah, I mean a debate that

42:45

but I agree on the

42:45

principles of what you say

42:47

and I agree I agree with the principles. Of. Debate that

42:49

you could do that with any

42:52

old like any old song

42:52

you would choose.

42:55

But I think it would have a bigger impact. More more like,

42:58

yes, if you're doing like

42:58

acoustic jazz, it's

43:01

not going to have the same effect

43:02

as pop, for example. So, you know,

43:05

Bloodshot Eyes is a very pop heavy song. So that's why

43:07

I use that as an example.

43:09

But yes, there's

43:11

there

43:11

is that aspect to it.

43:13

I wanted to bring up

43:13

this one one.

43:16

So if you

43:19

how would you describe

43:19

consisting AC two to

43:23

Vietnam, would you,

43:23

would you say it's like

43:25

a really good thing? It's a good quality

43:26

to have being consistent.

43:30

All right. Something down. And I think it

43:31

probably still applies to

43:33

this where I say side to

43:39

side, maybe because like others,

43:41

like consistency is good,

43:45

but it's not just

43:45

about the routine.

43:48

It's the refuge

43:48

that you get

43:53

because you're following

43:53

through on a more

43:56

empty minded pursuit of the activity

43:57

that you want to do

44:00

eventually. So as it would,

44:01

it would come about to a

44:05

Is it good?

44:07

Yes, But

44:10

underlying

44:10

the goodness of it,

44:12

the greatness of

44:12

consistency, is that it

44:15

kind of puts you in autopilot, too. Then you're

44:19

like honing even more

44:19

into your speciality

44:21

and become even more

44:21

of a master.

44:23

Or. To dissipate

44:23

the threshold

44:27

that it takes to do whatever effective activity

44:28

it is that you're doing,

44:31

if that kind of makes sense. So yeah, if, if we like,

44:32

we do the podcast right,

44:37

I'll actually, I'll take

44:37

an even more clear view

44:40

book reviews. Right. I've I've probably done

44:41

maybe 50.

44:43

You've probably done

44:43

the other 300 right.

44:46

Of whatever, maybe 350.

44:48

And a bit

44:48

more than that as well.

44:50

If the, you know,

44:50

the initial book reviews

44:53

it took, it took some time

44:53

getting over the hump

44:57

and taking the notes

44:57

and doing all the things

44:59

and then doing it

44:59

and not redoing it,

45:03

all that sort of stuff. And look,

45:04

I haven't had as much consistency with them

45:08

as of late just because I was moving places

45:09

and I didn't have the set up

45:11

that I was happy with.

45:13

But because there's been enough consistency

45:14

over the many years,

45:17

today

45:17

I did a double Brian,

45:19

which when I'm released kind of as you

45:21

start travelling through

45:21

and the consistency

45:25

you have just been doing it in the past

45:26

allowed me to do it, but semi on autopilot.

45:30

And so it was more

45:30

of a refuge of the mind

45:32

where it wasn't as much threshold

45:34

to doing the activity.

45:38

It was a module

45:38

just set up and go

45:40

the there was almost like

45:40

joy in the editing of it

45:43

as well. And so

45:44

the consistency part

45:47

allows you to do the actions

45:48

and it was great,

45:50

but it's the refuge of

45:50

the mind that comes along.

45:52

So in short, yes, got to tell Vienna,

45:54

yes, it's good

45:56

and even better because it helps you

45:58

with the autopilot

46:00

mentality of it all. Yeah.

46:03

So my I'll

46:03

start this off with the

46:07

the famous Einstein quote,

46:07

which

46:10

does not seem to actually be something that he said,

46:11

but we'll go with it.

46:14

Basically attributed to him. Attributed to it

46:16

by the mere mortals. Yeah.

46:18

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing

46:20

over and over again and expecting

46:21

different results. And this is where

46:24

I kind of look at consistency

46:25

and I'm like, Yeah, just because you can do

46:27

the same thing

46:27

over and over again

46:29

doesn't mean the thing

46:29

is good in itself.

46:31

And this is something that I struggle

46:33

with at times

46:35

where I look at the podcast, for example,

46:37

and we get into

46:39

a really consistent thing. Okay, 7 p.m.

46:42

You know,

46:42

we're here every week and

46:46

maybe we're not innovating enough, maybe where

46:48

maybe if we took a week

46:50

for, you know, reformatted

46:50

and had a break

46:54

or did it at a different time

46:55

or something like that,

46:57

it would it would it would work better. It would

46:59

we would see different results,

47:00

perhaps better results

47:03

and consistency.

47:06

The same with the gym. Like I could I could practice

47:08

handstands all day long, just doing the same thing.

47:11

But unless I switch it off, unless I

47:13

do different drills and things like this, like I'm

47:15

not going to progress

47:17

and this is where I kind of just think consistency is

47:18

kind of like a, a neutral

47:22

kind of quality to have,

47:22

and it just amplifies

47:25

all the other ones. So if you are consistent

47:26

as well as conscientious,

47:31

then you would probably be going like all the consistently

47:32

doing this thing.

47:34

I'm not getting

47:34

the results that I want.

47:37

Okay, this is insanity. Einstein quote. Thank you.

47:40

Thank you, Mr. Einstein. I'll I'll use that

47:41

to my advantage. I'll change things up

47:44

and try and do something different. But if you're,

47:47

you know, consistent,

47:50

consistently lazy,

47:50

and you never show up to

47:54

the thing that you say, you will, you know,

47:56

you're consistent.

47:58

But it's not it's not like helping you. It's not aiding you in

48:02

your pursuit of a good life or whatever it is that you're

48:03

you're trying to achieve. So yeah, I very much view

48:05

it as a

48:07

as a neutral thing

48:07

in comparison

48:09

to some other qualities

48:09

where I would

48:12

I'd probably be like,

48:12

yeah, that's by and large

48:15

that that'll serve you well in life. This one is kind of just

48:16

like maybe, maybe it will.

48:23

Yeah, that's an interesting one because another one that

48:25

like pops into mind is

48:29

what's the most consistent thing that's going to happen

48:30

in life? It's probably

48:32

going to be change.

48:34

Like the most the most consistent thing

48:35

is going to happen to you is it's going to be

48:36

changes. Things are going to vary.

48:39

I think that's the the

48:39

paradox of consistency.

48:43

Maybe it's you have to be

48:45

consistently prepared

48:46

for things to change. Now

48:50

to the point of. How, how, how.

48:53

Amazing is that quality again, and getting back to the

48:54

your previous question of

48:58

how would I go about teaching it, I don't think consistency

48:59

would be the like

49:03

the parent,

49:03

the mother quality

49:05

that I'd be lining up

49:05

versus, hey,

49:09

of the many things

49:09

you can be in life,

49:12

consistency

49:12

is like a really great one

49:14

that you could just like really pristinely

49:16

put forward.

49:18

Not really. I think you can do amazing things

49:21

and you can enjoy life without a whole host

49:22

of consistency

49:24

that can be done. I think there's a lot

49:25

of things in life that you kind of need

49:27

consistency to help you with it.

49:30

Again, getting back to the

49:32

making it easier to get past the threshold,

49:33

but if you're

49:35

like a beast, if you're disciplined or just

49:40

vicious with the ability

49:40

of doing work,

49:43

then you don't have to be consistent. You just maybe get up

49:44

and go, What time is it?

49:48

Okay, good. One hour of just whatever

49:49

you need to do right now

49:51

doesn't matter if it's consistent or are you just doing it

49:52

and you're going to go full tilt

49:54

until you're, you know,

49:56

blood boils, whatever you've got to get

49:57

through a lot of things

49:59

and get through some growth. Doing that right. You don't have to be

50:01

that consistent. You have to dope

50:05

really viciously at a particular activity at enough times and

50:08

maybe you accomplish it, maybe you don't. So I think only

50:10

if prompted.

50:13

I think if I was prompted to talk specifically about it

50:16

or something adjacent,

50:16

then it would come up,

50:18

but it wouldn't be the first thing that comes up as a great learning piece

50:20

or key thing

50:23

that's going to get discussed. No. Sounds good to me.

50:27

So maybe so. Maybe turning turning it

50:27

all the way around is consistency summarises

50:29

this way?

50:32

Is consistency

50:32

beneficial? Yes.

50:36

Is consistently the one and only thing

50:38

and the other quality?

50:41

Not. Not it isn't,

50:41

but it served me well.

50:46

Again,

50:46

going back to the numbers,

50:48

there's a lot of consistency there in the daily

50:51

tracking of both fitness

50:51

and the journaling.

50:54

And I know that one day I'll look back

50:56

and be argument. I was really happy that

50:58

I was consistent with it,

51:01

but it is in the things that I think

51:02

I'm going to be happy. I don't have to be

51:03

consistent about eating the same food

51:04

every day

51:06

or consistently wearing

51:06

white shoes or just

51:10

this is a stepping

51:10

to the left three times

51:12

when I go out of my house and then right 22 times into it,

51:14

that was about right.

51:17

This is like redundancies,

51:17

inconsistency.

51:20

And so I'd say, look,

51:20

doesn't value consistency

51:24

apply to where you want the threshold

51:26

to be minimised

51:28

and you want to to

51:30

find yourself doing activities that you want to do

51:31

easier.

51:34

That's, that's where the quality of kind

51:35

of like shines best. Here's a I think

51:37

that's a good summary of

51:40

I won't add anything to that. I'll just add this

51:41

this anecdote of real life

51:44

one about where

51:44

where consistency.

51:47

You got someone in trouble

51:47

or didn't help.

51:49

No. Didn't get them trouble. So my roommate,

51:51

she does Duolingo as well.

51:54

She's doing German and she was doing that

51:55

and then she missed a day.

51:58

It's like, mama missed a day, had a

51:59

30 days gone or whatever.

52:04

But she had a streak fit

52:04

and so it froze it

52:07

and it was like, okay,

52:07

you can just start again

52:09

and it will be as if,

52:09

you know,

52:11

you didn't miss that day. That's just

52:14

how Duolingo tries to keep

52:14

you in, keep motivated

52:17

till this sort of thing

52:17

works. For most people.

52:20

For her, it was like, No,

52:20

it feels like

52:23

I'm cheating. I don't want that.

52:24

I'd rather start again.

52:26

And so she wanted to start again the next day,

52:29

but then that was like

52:29

a double streak phase.

52:32

And so she ship.

52:35

She had to wait like three days until it all reset

52:36

and could go again.

52:40

And so this is where the consistency

52:42

in some respect,

52:44

like she missed a day

52:47

and she would have got back onto it. But know maybe I'm maybe

52:48

there's something else.

52:53

But it was

52:53

I was just going like,

52:55

you know, she wanted

52:56

to keep doing things,

52:58

but for whatever reason

52:58

it demotivated her

53:02

to not do it now. And so do you.

53:04

Housemate, does your housemate know

53:05

that a streak free

53:08

doesn't count to the total

53:08

tally of days?

53:12

I'm not sure. I'll have to ask her

53:12

if she knows.

53:15

I don't know. Because it doesn't. It doesn't

53:16

actually counted. Yeah there,

53:19

but I think it was

53:19

more like, yeah,

53:21

I've done this many days in a row, but I actually haven't

53:23

like one rationalising.

53:27

Yeah. Not doing the Daily Journal even though it says

53:28

Daily Journal, that sort of thing. But yeah yeah I

53:33

maybe it's slightly off topic compared to that but yeah, I thought it was

53:34

a funny little anecdote.

53:39

Yeah. So I don't know I still,

53:41

I get to that point of

53:44

you were saying it's not consistent if,

53:46

if you're not actually

53:46

doing it daily

53:48

kind of go,

53:48

well I don't know.

53:51

I don't think that's true.

53:53

I don't know if that's particularly true

53:54

in the sense of like,

53:57

I guess I guess it's the get me

53:58

it falls back into the

54:02

the original query

54:02

that I put forward of.

54:05

I think consistency is not about so much of the outcome,

54:07

but it's the effort that

54:09

kind of matters. And so that's maybe how

54:10

I rationalise it.

54:12

Say, yes,

54:12

you're not the exact

54:15

outcome of like doing it every day might not be happening,

54:18

but the effort

54:18

of filling it in back

54:21

or rewriting it down

54:21

so that it's all full by

54:23

whatever time period

54:23

I get. Okay, cool.

54:26

I was still deemed that as consistent, but I think me in time

54:28

I diverging views on that.

54:31

So if you want to pretty

54:31

much align with kind then

54:36

message

54:36

drop a piece again.

54:39

If you want to align with

54:39

me, don't send anything.

54:41

So then that's how, that's

54:43

how I'm going to know the answers. But someone. Actually

54:45

like along with me or not.

54:47

We end up

54:47

getting like 200% and.

54:50

All of a sudden there's like 200

54:51

piece of games that come through in

54:52

the next podcast and like.

54:55

So no, I. Wouldn't say no to that.

54:58

Cool. Okay, well, that's all I have

54:58

for the consistency. Yeah, me too. Like,

55:00

thanks once again.

55:02

We live always.

55:02

It's 7 p.m. Chilean sun.

55:05

Same time. I didn't say this

55:06

13th of March 2024 to go.

55:10

What month it is going

55:10

say quick man.

55:12

In fact,

55:12

for the people who've been

55:15

here for a little while, obviously into it

55:16

about my daughter, she turns one in

55:17

seven weeks.

55:21

So that's how fast time is flying. If you've been listening

55:22

to the the podcasts every now and

55:24

again, I mean, six likes

55:27

to be consistent

55:27

in the things that you do.

55:30

But I didn't to sway away from the even more

55:32

important stuff that sometimes comes away from consistency.

55:36

Yet you want to put the podcasts on already talked about it

55:38

but disagreement streaming

55:40

is really the key way

55:42

that we wanting

55:42

to get you to support us.

55:45

You can share the podcasts you talk about it

55:46

to your mates, you can listen to it

55:48

on various platforms

55:50

attending through AP Scream Streaming through at this

55:53

point is the most

55:53

beneficial thing for us.

55:56

It keeps us from do it

55:56

and not

55:59

directly to this podcast,

55:59

but through value.

56:02

We kind of like live reacting to a pretty large boost,

56:05

the kind of game through

56:05

and in the current day

56:08

where the price of things are at,

56:09

we were like, Whoa, this is pretty crazy

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that we were just saying, This comes through. So look,

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it makes us really joyous when we see that

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come through and hopefully we can

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respond to you as well.

56:19

And that's what we do

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on the piece from

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week to week basis. That's consistency, folks.

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And we've been doing this coming up

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to five fuckin years now.

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So again there. Yeah, yeah. You pay attention,

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folks. Pay attention

56:33

for now. Four and a half years

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and two days time.

56:36

Horizon, four years. Four and a half years

56:37

and two days time. They guy consistency just

56:39

I think

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if you break it down,

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we we've done

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at least a thousand

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pieces of content.

56:51

well it'd be pretty close

56:51

to that.

56:54

Yeah. Yeah yeah.

56:56

It won't, it won't be, you know, it won't be that number,

56:58

but it would be like

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we'd be closing in on only one piece of content per,

57:04

per day for the four

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and a half years.

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Pretty close. Pretty close.

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no, not that close. Well.

57:12

I was thinking like content also would be including

57:13

like Instagram reels and clips

57:15

and stuff like that.

57:17

So yeah. Well,

57:18

I would be way over in terms of that

57:19

and just double. Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

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And I think the proof is in the pudding

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sometimes you don't, you don't recognise

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consistency until you look back.

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Second one of our years.

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Holy shit. Actually

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we were consistent. Whether it makes a little

57:32

difference or you guys

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believe that for now, you Malians. I hope you enjoy yourself

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wherever you are in the world. Thank you very much

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for tuning in. For now, peace Juan out.

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Kyrin out bye.