Karen Grassle is the beloved actress who played Ma on Little House on the Prairie and author of a new candid memoir, Bright Lights, Prairie Dust: Reflections on Life, Loss, and Love from Little House’s Ma. In this candid memoir, Grassle reveals her journey to succeed as an actress even as she struggles to overcome depression, combat her own dependence on alcohol, and find true love. With humor and hard-won wisdom, Grassle takes readers on an inspiring journey through the political turmoil on ’60s campuses, on to studies with some of the most celebrated artists at the famed London Academy of Music and Dramatic Arts, and ultimately behind the curtains of Broadway stages and storied Hollywood sets.

In this episode, Jennifer and Karen discuss their battles with addiction and recovery, their lives as mothers and actresses in Hollywood, and other obstacles placed in front of women in the arts. Karen talks about the financial struggles of the early days in acting and standing up for herself and others looking to receive the equality deserved as an actress on a top-rated show. She also opens up about her personal struggle with alcoholism, getting sober, and her journey to motherhood through independent adoption. Finally, Karen talks about her project bringing awareness and advocacy to domestic violence through her platform and a movie-of-the-week, Battered.