Ad agency executive Carl Desir and brewery owner Katarina Martinez sit down to discuss the different forms that “diversity” can take in the creative and craft beer industries, how they advocate for inclusion and the penchant for 5-to-9 side hustles.
TL;DL- Carl comes to terms with being an AARP millennial, while Katarina recounts getting a cease-and-desist letter from Beyoncé herself.
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