Dr. Ayo Gathing is a psychiatrist, professor, and author who is committed to the growth of children, adolescents, and families. One of the truths she shares during this interview, is that women of color risk pouring from an empty cup regularly, if their commitment to self-care is not fiercely prioritized. Dr. Ayo addresses the misconceptions associated with the arena of mental health, and her wishes for the women of color engaging the mental health care system. In this conversation, we discuss how to dive into the work of being our healthiest selves, capable of the best love when in relationships with ourselves and others. Her message - therapy and mental health is a safe space.