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this podcast, explores themes of
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murder and rape listener discretion
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is fishing
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that
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a serial killer is it worth mountains
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of washington offer? these
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i i
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women cuz it was
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i had a problem with killing
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women back then figure
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that is illness and i don't know
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nineteen eighty
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two the strangled body
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a fifteen year old monday have club
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is some hello done and seattle's green river
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a month later and address three
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more bodies are found in the water then
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another in the long grass on
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the riverbank police confirm
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that all five young women homicide
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system several ,
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marsha chapman cynthia
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heinz open mills
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and wendy caufield have all
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been strangled to death death
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discovered that all of them disappeared
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from a notorious stretch of sizes
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were women so their bodies for said in
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the shadow a seattle seats seattle still
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reeling from the reeling became king
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jr smith worst king
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are realized side young
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and and have been killed in the same wall killed
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weeks of agenda as ,
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serial killer and hey i'm
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that to michelle would and this is mind
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of a monster ted bundy and
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the green river two episodes
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he had his
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then body starts showing up in seattle's
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green river
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in the summer of eighty two it
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had been eight years since ted bundy
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terrorize king county i
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want to know what it's like when in new nightmare
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begins nightmare begins city still corrupt
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with fear
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the get a first hand account i talked to
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he
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an attorney
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the brief and king county
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okay so let's start with you telling a see
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you are and what your relationship is
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to the green river murder case
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in nineteen eighty two i had graduated
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from high school and i lived
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the karma which is just a little south
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of seattle for it came to
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school at the university of washington in the
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fall of nineteen eighty two and that
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was about a month after the first
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bodies were found in the green river and
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i was in college and then law school from
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nineteen eighty two until nineteen eighty nineteen
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and during and large portion of that time
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green her and the murders
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were front page news wow
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thrived and on a scary
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ridgeway prosecution from two
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thousand and one until he was
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sentenced at the end of two thousand three
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i was a king county prosecutor that
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did you feel afraid because you'd
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certainly the demographic you're the age
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and you're a female
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what about feeling
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i spent the first couple of years in a sorority into
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school on the sorority it was still very
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much really and from the ted bundy
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murders that had occurred in of just
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up the street frankly from where i lived sell
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the disappearance of any young women
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alarmed the community you know
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feet even though it turned out that a lot
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the victims were women who were
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engaged in another profession
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there was no reason that necessarily think that people
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like me young women or necessarily
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outside the to potential victim pool
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and it must have been particularly
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scary because as you say you guys
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are coming off the heels of the ted bundy
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murders i mean you're
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twelve years during the seventies
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the seventy four killings of i'm cracked and
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now you're awesome college and there's another
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cereal
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right it guy was
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and can bundy courses also
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front karma which happened to be where i grew
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up so you know the knowledge about
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these serial killers to and know
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people didn't really understand what was happening
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because it's are there aren't that many serial
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killers of course bundy was so notorious
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so it was still very much been
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on the front of mind for lot of people
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even by the time the bodies were starting
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to be sound along degree
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let you need to do you feel like security
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in front of parenting was ramps up during
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that time i'm not so sure about parenting
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there was a great focus on making sure that we
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lived in these big sorority houses and
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that all the doors were always lived there was
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just a lot more security than their head then in
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the recent past and then of course there's a
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lot of parties and
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again just as a focus
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on get off from the guys
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in the fraternities to make sure the girls got home safely
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that people were walked all the way up to their doors
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seem to go inside their door those
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kinds of things
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it's natural for the public and
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particularly young women like patty to
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be scared what's it like for
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those in law enforcement what's
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it like to realize there is a
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nother serial killer in seattle
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explore these questions i get in touch with say
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brooks
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robbing her unique perspective at the heart
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of the hunt for the green river killer say
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what is your connection to the green river
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kill
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case i'm retired
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member of the king county sheriff's office
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and i was one of the abysmal investigators
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on
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green river homicide case
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a psychologist i have an interest in serious
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crimes but it's academic
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what made you want to go out there and be on the from
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line working in law enforcement
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i knew in high school that wanted to
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do something in sociology
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don't you know life happens i got
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pregnant dropped out of college and
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my roommate in college at the time
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ended up what working for the king county sheriff's
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office been it she said you know the king county sheriff's
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offices hiring i'm wanted
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to try and get on i applied
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to the written test took
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the
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the past
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and i guess the rest is history i
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was hired in october
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nineteen seventy eight and
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in my academy class there were twenty
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six recruits and
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i was the only woman
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in one of two black people who were in the
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academy class
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really yes and
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at the end of that
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three month period i graduated
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added the academy at at the number
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two spot
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that's awesome i definitely want to talk
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more about your experience in the sheriff's office
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but i'm fascinated by this moment
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when king county becomes aware
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that there's another serial killer out
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there
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what was your introduction to the case
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i'm i can remember it was a hot
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sunday afternoon and i'm at home looking
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the the then i see
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oh man detectors are out in the green
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river
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and there's multiple victims
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there
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though i knew going in that
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the next day was gonna be busy when i got
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to work the next morning they hadn't
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had an opportunity to identify
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any of the victims at that point so
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they were trying to pack as evidence
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and evidence can remember thinking
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okay this three victims
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found at this site and then
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there had been to other victims found there
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within the previous month further
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downstream so we thought okay
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flute it's a serial killer, and
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end
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up identifying
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a few of the early victims in one
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of them was marcia chapman,
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and i'll say her name in memory
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her i also worked
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at shortly before she
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was killed with her as her as
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i had met her and had talk with her
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and that was
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hard for me i
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wanted to help identify
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who had done that to are so that
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wasn't a commitment of mine
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the detected like stay motivated
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by a personal connection to the case it's
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hard to believe that it is almost twenty
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years before the killers com
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why was
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every which way the green river killer
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so hard to catch i
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returned to say bronx
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that challenging part of the early
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investigation and subsequent
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parts of the investigation is
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first of all they were run away so they
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weren't reported missing back missing that
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era if you are runaway reaches the
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runway they're also wasn't also
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system in place
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where should you find
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the remains of someone how
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could you identify them
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what how do you identify these girls
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as sex workers and runway
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primarily it's to dental records or
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fingerprints when we had
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missing people they would just be missing
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at that time didn't have the protocols in
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place where if someone was reported
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missing you try and track down the
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dentist so you can get that information
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and have it on file should
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the person
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need to be identified so green
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river homicide investigation tanks protocol
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in those to a specific areas
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wow so how did you identify
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them before that
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if they had a criminal history that's
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primarily how we were identified
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them his successors
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or for runaways
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at first i'm a little surprised that protocols
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are all meet scenes in response to the green
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river killer this ted bundy
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abductions but ,
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it makes perfect sense almost
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all of bundy's victims are high profile
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disappearances the girls are
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only gonna matter of hours before
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the reported missing sparking a flurry
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of police and media interest
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polar opposite runaways who
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are already missing but hasn't been reporting
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the disappearances
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easily
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when approaching vice attention the other
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completely bypass is it is a
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striking and fundamental gary
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ridge with message from ripple the surface
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had bendy operates with his last
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never more so than in the winter of ninety
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seven
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well they're still looking for
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a murder suspect seat or monday who celebrated
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new years eve by escaping from a colorado
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jails undersheriff robert
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hearts as a whole have been cutting the ceiling
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of his cell for a light fixture bunny
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apparently pushed the light fixture out
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climb through the crawl space to a jailers apartments
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and then walked out heart says it
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is a solid steel cel except
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for that small whole wheat
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stop rewind and
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he said he said that apply
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lost enough weight this is whispers
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basically the my dear i could crawl
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out that them and it's an escape
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from prison
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in our last episode larry
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anderson who was friends with ted bundy
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in salt lake city told me bundy
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whispered an escape plan in his ear
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on a visit to see him and a utah prison there
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is no logic that can explain how
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he's been able to execute the same
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plan and a colorado prison
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clearly he has escape on his mind
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every second
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he's behind bars
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despite a state wide search and colorado
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bundy manages to flee
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the makes his way to florida he
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has only one thing the
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stock the local
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is inserted his next victim the comes up
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empty
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finally on january fifteenth nineteen
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seventy eight he discovers the
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unlocked door to a sorority
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house
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killer
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or at the chi omega sorority
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house police say he simply walked
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in through an unlocked door they say
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he was armed with a heavy law he
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club and then strangled to death twenty
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euro lisa levy and twenty one euro
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margaret no one at least one of them was
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raped then he brutally beat three
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more sleeping coeds karen chandler
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and cassie kleiner cheryl and thomas
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was severely beaten in her apartment six
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blocks away their conditions today
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fair to serious
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the needed shocking frenzied a
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car to the kyle make a sorority house
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rocks tallahassee and detectors
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are wrong footed by the brutal random
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nature of the crime as a result
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bundy still at large three weeks later
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on february ninth he had ducks
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and murders twelve years
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kimberly lose she's
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sunday's final victim police
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arrested this thirty one year old man after man high
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speed chase wednesday morning and pensacola florida
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he claimed the claimed florida state university law
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student at now he has been positively
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identified as business kp theodore
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pundit a suspect in the rape murder
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cases of at least thirty six young women
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volkswagen beetle it ironic
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that bundy isn't another he'd have a nice
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his reign of terror and to an end
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like only before him
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geary midway on
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the his victim profile is different
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making it clear early on that he isn't
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just a copy cat killer were
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ted bundy sought out mostly
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college girls prowling university
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campuses and streets around sorority
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houses gary ridgeway tix
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ridgeway different route sneering sex
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workers from seattle
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city neighborhoods
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i asked to mosque yeah the author
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of the search for the green river killer about
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the area ridgeway is hunting in
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can you tell us a little bit about pacific
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highway the street life
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sir well the socially is
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is down the road around the state or
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two from alaska has a was a gold
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rush session so people
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science the city to spend the money is
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so the pacific rim without the strap
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for , airport is basically
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became a prostitution strip and
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so is that a lot of motels and hotels
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topless joint said you could try
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to visualize almost like baker sometimes
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that was essentially is a long stretch but
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basically the girls lost it at
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night and so they were girls galore
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i mean that was once you put finances
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girls at every street corner if
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you stopped at you stopped bit sit on the hood
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or your costs you know they'd sachet
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to the window and that's what it was late
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at night or
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over twenty years after gary ridgeway
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began abducting and murdering women off
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the pacific highway
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prosecutors bringing the case against him record
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every word he says as evidence
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image clear
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the describes meeting women on the strip and
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how he feels
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those usually they're either she tech red
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line at the around the bus stop
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get out and walk over testament
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vostok live walk out
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the i picked up
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the relays or , i killed him on
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the bus stop and lion lion
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use always the word
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ladies for prostitutes their separate
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from working class
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this to me like , lot
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of ladies ladies are prostitutes
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are are ,
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man jobs and that's
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why i didn't tell a woman there were a
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work in the
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as the hunt for the green river killer takes
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off the victim profile isn't
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the only difference
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between had bundy and dairy ridgeway
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ominously ridgeway is also far
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more prolific
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what had been he's killing spree between nineteen
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seventy three and nineteen said before results
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in each region the
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end of nineteen eighty kill just six months
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after the first body is found in a green river
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ridgeway has taken thirteen on
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earth
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king county police set up
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green river tasks
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in investigated unit dedicated entirely
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to catching the killer
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the task forces green jackets become a
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regular an iconic image on tv news
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in the eighties every time another body
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is discovered investigators are broadcast
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hacking the way to the undergrowth searching for
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evidence i talked to say brooks
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about been on the green river to
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hey how was been on a taskforce
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different from working a more routine investigation
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often times when you're detective you have
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a caseload and you work
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on your case of and , else
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has a caseload and every now and then you make
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compared notes because something
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made p an interest
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or may be like will do something similar
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to yours than is to mine this
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particular case everybody on
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it was focused on month in
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the person who's doing this and so there was
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a big camaraderie working
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on the task force the green river task
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force
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the charges investigation the
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of resources
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money and manpower one
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of the priorities is to form a suspect
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profound
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that the investigation which which i'm
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fascinated
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that need a serial killer
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dude had been the and carry the to
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his formative years first i talk to
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new york times bestseller rebecca more
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the kid was born illegitimate
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and his mother louise left
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him at
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home and vermont putting up for adoption
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the story is that her father
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made her go back and pick up ted
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so there is least three or four months
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there when he was abandoned
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try out you could say but then
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the first near as he lifted his grandparents'
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house with his mother
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it's really hard to sort out with somebody
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like
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monday what is smith and what is
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true but one of the myths is that
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he was told his mother
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was as mr and his
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grandparents because their fear
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of the shame and stigma of their daughter having
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an illegitimate baby his grandparents
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had told friends are we at a late in life
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baby you know but
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something happened and when
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he was forty years old here's
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relative sent ted
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the matter in a way to com a washington
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to live
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that the other the really
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important first a new information was
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that his grams
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father who he lived with was a violent
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person swung cats
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pornography was
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involved
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the domestic violence and that
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grandmother had been institutionalized
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more than once said have electric shock treatments
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so there was a lot of dysfunction and mental
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illness in that family where he
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was the first years and can
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what happened after that so ten and his mother
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some west and since she
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married and had four children and
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i've always thought boy that must have been
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the talk for ten because for
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a long time at binges he and his mother
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and suddenly you know yet
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a stepfather that he didn't really
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have anything in common with
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he was blue collar and in
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old the very thing kid
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hated most was being blue collar
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that wasn't alive he wanted a
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one of the people i found that never been interviewed
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was kids best friend when they eight
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nine ten years old and
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they live near care and she has stories
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in the ted would take little girls other
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words piano or
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you know he loves to scare people eat hide
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and then jump out you know if there
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was always something kind of odd
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the show was about about
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ten
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bunnies disturbed childhood certainly
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sit some ideas about really like
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trauma contributing to violent behavior later
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in life how the question
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of nature versus nurture is outdated
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really we should be talking about nature and
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nurture
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genetic factors are incredibly important
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by
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we need to remember that it's only in very
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rare cases that a combination
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of jeans and early life trauma
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results in this
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level and violent behavior
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the sea of juri ridgeway fits the mold
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i discuss his up bring
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with terry michelle
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tell me how you new gary ridgeway gary
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was
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the brother of one of the guys that
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i knew very well grades and
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we saw walk to school together greg
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was going with the girl that was one of my best
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friends
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did you live on the same street or the same area
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the do the same area we lived on
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one seventy six and they lived on one
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seventy says not exactly the same
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neighborhood the tennis just the same
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the area close enough we can all walk
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together but you know he
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was he was very quiet in those days
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and i mean really and truly you'd hardly know he was
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there he was a scandal a quiet
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guy
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how old was he when you first knew him i
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would have been that fifteen so he was friendly
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sixteen
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when i first met him
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and then he'll seventeen
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i think my sister
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ahead a little crush on him she
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was sitting outside the principal's
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office for being in trouble one day
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and , was sitting out there in the hallway as
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well and silver principal
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said you most in detention after
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school so they did and
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you know start mean it can a dark out on the way
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home and so
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he says i'm going to walk you home
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because
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dark out here and in all at once
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you to have to walk my or so
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can we will buy a lot of would you have to go
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about almost a half a mile by
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woods and it was pretty frightening
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in any time soap be by
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yourself at night would have been a ,
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for me or anybody says so
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he walked her home is that the curator books
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and everything oh my that is surf
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studies though but that now when i think
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about how she walked home
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with him now you think about maybe one of
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us could have been his first victim back in
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those days you know you never know i
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don't know how old he was when he started
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killing women but said have been so
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with someone was in my family
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and that would have been horrible the
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hitting on your sister do you think did he ever
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thing for the girls at that age and sure
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he must have heard of either loved him or
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hate and i'm i'm not sure which you know
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probably a love hate relationship is what
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i guess
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his mom
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my mom and her friend
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would go to the p t a meetings at
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school and his mom would come
22:43
and , had a beehive hairdo
22:46
and makeup
22:48
like nobody else isn't in rent
22:51
and
22:51
short short skirts
22:53
high heels and everything and
22:55
they all have more just be
22:57
oh my god who is that
22:59
it's of did you meet his mother i never
23:01
miss her
23:02
i did not meet her i
23:04
, her one time though she was out order
23:06
for jos at my girlfriend's house next door
23:09
she was out on her porch and she was screaming
23:12
at her husband just yelling at him and that's
23:14
the only time the only
23:16
saw her
23:18
at all but she's really scream at the top
23:20
of our lungs and him
23:21
where did a strict house
23:23
i think their mother did all the punishing i
23:26
think she was the one that really does run
23:28
house
23:29
i've heard that his dad was kind of tough
23:31
finding as well but i think is it really
23:33
was some overall i'm
23:35
gary ridgeway his demeanor as a young man
23:37
certainly doesn't give any clues about who held
23:39
the com being shy or
23:41
quiet is most definitely not
23:43
concern
23:44
so far so normal
23:46
but in this clip ridgeway talk
23:48
to investigators about his feelings
23:50
toward his mother they're not warm
23:52
and fuzzy clean
23:55
think about having sex
23:58
when for
23:59
fifteen i think i'd see around
24:02
sunbathing and needs is a
24:04
fantasy of wanted to have
24:06
sex kutcher of his body
24:09
have show me show to have sex hum
24:13
majesty each other's engine and she's
24:16
loved or have loved your body and
24:19
is the do some way to defile
24:21
what she's always loved
24:24
me be slicer offer some
24:26
be file or and her parents
24:28
to her more than forty
24:31
and meal
24:33
the criminal psychologist wrong
24:35
unscripted recordings like this one of
24:37
ridgeway are fascinating but
24:39
the question of nature and nurture can be misleading
24:42
in it's simplicity
24:44
when we compare bundy and rich ways formative
24:46
years there are similarities particularly
24:49
dysfunction in the relationships with their mothers
24:51
that is a small piece of the puzzle
24:53
there to be no argument however about where
24:56
they grew up
24:57
yeah com tn as a child and
24:59
in king county might be an ingredient
25:02
that made them so
25:03
what are your thoughts about how and
25:05
why king county was home to to serial
25:07
killers at once i mean
25:09
you don't think it was something like the on beyond landscape
25:12
of the time the police things
25:14
would agree
25:15
that
25:16
i agree is a useful but i don't think
25:18
isn't a water where
25:20
the cool a years eliminate or the why
25:23
you know you some people think that's
25:25
because there are a lot of was here of people
25:27
live outdoors and inside that's a breeding
25:30
places i would disagree in on
25:32
i took his more you've got individuals
25:34
of the city neurologic too long as an
25:37
adult environment system
25:42
putting a family which
25:45
may already have the genetic makeup secure
25:47
then any influence king county house
25:49
on them hasn't come from the mountains and forests
25:52
it's from the neighborhoods they grew up in
25:55
hillary rochelle grew up in the same neighborhood
25:57
as ridgeway and confirming exists
25:59
we would it was
26:00
the i grew up right up the hill
26:02
from sea tac airport
26:04
you know when we were grown up winning even think
26:06
about prostitutes or anything but then
26:08
after
26:08
that at a high school me started seeing
26:10
more and more the area then i got more cd
26:13
i was working a boeing and i'd
26:15
come home from work and are you see the
26:17
girls walk and up and down the street he
26:19
went to wendy's you can sit in their window
26:22
there
26:22
in watch the girls work
26:24
perhaps the nature of gary rich
26:27
ways crimes
26:28
the personally a reaction to both his mother
26:31
and growing up by the pacific highway east
26:34
the on this trip that marine all var
26:36
is working in april nineteen eighty three the
26:38
haven't been long since we moved out of the house
26:41
and she still works sister the family restaurant
26:43
what murray family doesn't know is that she's
26:45
got a second job working on the street
26:47
for her boyfriend is also her pin
26:50
on april thirtieth he watches as murray
26:52
gets into a red pickup truck
26:53
the noted is a distinctive patch a primer
26:56
on the pavement murray's boyfriend him
26:58
foes the try to keep an eye on marine but
27:01
he loses it at it at light he
27:03
doesn't come back that night or even the next
27:05
day
27:06
the mufti and reported on the disappear
27:08
murray malvo stag
27:10
one in found a pimp then he says you better
27:13
tell me my daughter is or where
27:15
you saw it's well the last team
27:17
was a pickup picked her up and they turn
27:19
left up to heal and basically
27:21
she's never seen again so for the dad
27:23
says you take me for you
27:25
saw this sucks so they go driving around the
27:27
neighborhood looking for the truck to the
27:29
find it they see they pickup truck
27:32
the house well it turns out a d ended
27:34
his juri ridgeway sounds so they go towards
27:36
least detectors are dispatched
27:38
to the house they take to which way and
27:40
of course he shrugs off the allegations
27:43
the local police detective files report
27:46
that it isn't shared with the county homicide
27:48
unit until months later the
27:51
opportunity to add ridgeway to the list
27:53
of suspects less than a year
27:55
into the two decade long hunt for him is
27:58
overlooked
27:59
when murray
27:59
missing she's one of which waste
28:02
first twenty or so victim
28:04
it is believed he killed around seventy
28:06
women in total so
28:08
many lives could have been saved if he'd been
28:10
thoroughly investigated at this point
28:12
what else is it that gets him off the hook i
28:15
ask patty ekes what he's like in person
28:18
here the first time we met him i'd only seen him in court
28:20
up until that point and he was so
28:22
incredibly unimpressive to be honest
28:25
mean he's not only not physically
28:27
very
28:28
the big but he
28:30
was also
28:32
farming and
28:35
how
28:36
or non threatening and is probably the wrong
28:39
word but you can't goofy i guess is what
28:41
i would say and i think that nobody
28:43
really
28:43
anticipated that because again
28:46
what they say about serial killers is most of the time
28:48
they're highly intelligent and
28:50
i remember it we all did kind of looked at each other's
28:52
prosecutors and more like ah that's the
28:54
guy eluded you for twenty years cause
28:56
she's like thomas iraq ridgeway
28:59
might be dumb as iraq but is all american
29:02
blue collar credentials and unassuming
29:04
demeanor get some of the hofland
29:06
police come calling about murray more var
29:08
he's left
29:09
free a key punch why
29:12
would
29:12
kill pew and one day in other words what
29:14
were the urges in terms of
29:16
what you're feeling that they had to be
29:18
different from on are times when you would only
29:20
kill maybe once a week or once
29:23
every couple
29:23
and i urge to kill my
29:26
need to kill
29:28
over our nine of
29:30
logic and , one time i'm i'm
29:33
one or two hours later he
29:36
was early in our son went back out to
29:38
same place and noah's acts and
29:40
i don't know if i did kill two and one day one i'm
29:43
on my to kill i know i killed one one
29:45
n one one day in on the record
29:48
years to done to to wanted to the spirit
29:50
wanted same day so it's possible
29:52
i would have to the went back out
29:54
look at his early enough he's only nine
29:57
o'clock at night i'd rather go out for another hour
29:59
and look for another one the
30:02
public is gripped by fear
30:05
investigators are out of ideas
30:07
and this story is all over the news
30:10
king county is desperate for desperate break in the
30:12
case
30:13
what happens next
30:14
save everything
30:22
green river task force detective bob
30:24
capital receives a letter from a wannabe
30:27
consultants the letter
30:29
has come from a cell on death row in florida
30:39
next time as the green river killers body
30:41
count keeps claiming a look at the
30:43
public cry in a city under siege
30:46
explore what's going on with bundy
30:48
the offer to help cross the case
30:51
kind of a monster ted bundy and
30:53
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