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All. right? everybody we are going to.
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It can conclude this week's corporate
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updates with them. Good news out
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of New core gold. A new
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court ended the day to day
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up nearly eighteen percent which is
0:30
great news. After publishing their updated
0:32
preliminary economic assessment for the and
0:34
she called project in Gonna the
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sporting are using the I guess
0:39
you can now say conservative base
0:41
case of one thousand eight hundred
0:43
fifty dollars per ounce of gold.
0:45
It's pre tax Npv. Out with
0:47
the five percent discount, said five hundred. Eighty
0:50
six million dollars and now has
0:52
a seventy seven percent internal rate
0:55
of return The Or to provide
0:57
his a commentary and editorial comments
0:59
as Ceo Luke Alexander hey look,
1:02
look back. Yeah. Thanks
1:04
offer! Average driver. Yeah.
1:07
Big news important day to day for the
1:10
get this updated. You know this cat. The.
1:12
There's a lot to. there's a lot
1:14
to can't take any. About the start.
1:17
Genuinely genuinely. Ah, Twenty Twenty One, you
1:19
publish the original p A. What's.
1:21
Different this go around. Yeah.
1:24
Number of things up are different.
1:26
We've obviously increase the overall production
1:28
profile of the project by about
1:30
thirty six percent. So if you
1:33
look at our only twenty one
1:35
p A We increased it from
1:37
about eighty nine thousand ounces to
1:39
this are updated p A One
1:42
Hundred and twenty Two thousand ounces.
1:44
So larger overall production profile. Obviously.
1:47
The industry seen a lot of
1:49
cost inflation over the last number
1:51
of years, so work we've incorporated
1:53
Twenty Twenty Four I'm Costs into
1:56
the I'm P A. So from
1:58
I kept x perspective. Looking at
2:00
about one hundred and six billion
2:02
dollars on of initial capital at
2:05
that includes a twenty forty percent
2:07
of contingency. Ah, and we've ah
2:09
B C grow in the overall
2:11
Npc the project. So if you
2:13
look at the. Or
2:15
twenty twenty one p A We
2:18
had about three hundred million dollar
2:20
Npv and our as this one
2:22
we got a three hundred and
2:25
seventy one billion dollar Npp after
2:27
tax and an after tax Iraq
2:30
of about job fifty eight percent.
2:32
So we've got a larger overall
2:34
project, larger production profile, and.and an
2:37
increase.com Npv And as you highlighted,
2:39
that's all at a meeting. Fifty
2:41
Gold Price! Or
2:45
has to do today. Put. Loot.
2:47
what is what is today's good press look like.
2:50
Yeah. So say today at Twenty three Fifty
2:52
gold and we've outlined some of these numbers
2:54
as the press release and I had encourage
2:56
people to go have been have a look
2:58
at that press release. We put a huge
3:01
amount of detail in there, a lot of
3:03
sensitivity analysis, On from an
3:05
op ed cap act of gold
3:07
price perspective. But. You specifically
3:09
on gold if we looked at
3:11
the project added twenty three fifty
3:13
gold price you're looking at and
3:16
after tax on N P V
3:18
M I, six hundred and thirty
3:20
million dollars and an after tax
3:22
iraq of roughly ninety two percent.
3:25
So obviously those are extremely attractive
3:27
metrics for up for a project
3:29
that again ah only costs one
3:31
hundred and six million dollars to
3:34
out to to initially. Build
3:36
so. I'm not surprised by the
3:39
a response that we've seen in the market
3:41
in the fact that he always treated over
3:43
two million shares to the move up that
3:45
you are loaded at the start of this
3:48
episode is on the back of big volume
3:50
as well which is always a good size
3:52
and I think there's a lot of the
3:54
for the company to run from here on
3:57
a number of different metrics are we are
3:59
still trading. At very depressed levels. And
4:01
my view is that there's a real
4:03
disconnect in the market between. What?
4:06
We've outlined with been this P
4:08
A in terms of the fundamental
4:10
value of the project represented by
4:12
the Npt. The I R R
4:14
to Payback period we haven't talked
4:17
about is one point six years.
4:19
So all of those are the
4:21
fundamental value, the project and you've
4:23
got our stock which you know
4:25
as of yesterday was trading at
4:27
about thirty five billion dollars Canadian.
4:30
So a big disconnect between where's
4:32
the stock prices today and the
4:34
value of the project. And I
4:36
think ultimately we're going to start to
4:38
see a real rerating happening over time
4:41
as the market sorts of price in
4:43
you know the economics of the project.
4:47
In the question for i haven't read
4:50
or hello p is in the last
4:52
two months since we've had this massive
4:54
run in the cold pressed. What?
4:57
Was the conversation like internally As
4:59
far as keeping that base case
5:01
situation that eighteen fifty? Know
5:04
that there's a five hundred dollar discrepancy
5:06
between that and the current spot price.
5:09
I. Me as good as eighteen fifty? Could
5:11
there be an argument? That.
5:13
It was too conservative. Me
5:16
there can always be an argument
5:18
that dad that were being too
5:20
conservative. but again when you look
5:22
at our our Market cap today.
5:26
Compared to the Npv the project
5:28
you know we don't need to
5:30
be over overly aggressive. Where you
5:32
start to see companies get overly
5:34
aggressive is when they're try to
5:36
backfill you don't value for for
5:38
those companies. Have it was
5:40
viewed T V go through numbers
5:42
on study them come out over
5:44
the last six months or even
5:46
around is T dollars. Would you
5:48
look at the oh some of
5:50
the analysts' expectations from last year's
5:53
you know they're in those regions
5:55
of all of those things going
5:57
to how we come up with
5:59
the price and how like a
6:01
podium are consultants come up with
6:03
the price used as a base
6:05
case. When. Obviously again within
6:07
V P A you'll see a
6:10
lot of sensitivity analysis in there
6:12
so the old your listeners you
6:14
can go in and we got
6:17
a table that shows the project
6:19
That and nineteen fifty twenty fifty
6:21
twenty three fifty price dealt you
6:24
can pick your own are gold
6:26
price and then yelled back calculate
6:28
damn well Actually not even back
6:30
calculate You'll see all of the
6:33
ah the valuation and economic at
6:35
those different gold. Prices within the
6:37
press release. A do
6:39
when ask you about. That.
6:42
The costs. I mean, One
6:44
hundred, just over one hundred million
6:46
dollars to get the thing that's
6:48
initial a cap accident and she
6:50
built with what you're working with
6:52
today. Look, you've been in investment
6:55
banking. You. Also know
6:57
that. You have to. Walk.
7:00
So be mindful of the market
7:02
cap the valuation. Of the company.
7:05
Based. On the costs to
7:07
get these projects constructed up
7:09
into production and sometimes there's
7:11
a huge disconnect between those
7:13
two. Data. Points. By.
7:16
With or thirty five million dollar
7:18
Marcy, get company with a hundred
7:20
million dollar. Cap
7:22
acts. That. Seems something
7:24
reasonable and something we really haven't
7:27
seen much of in this sector.
7:29
It is that. Do would
7:31
you agree? If I was sitting here starting
7:33
to look Alexander the Banker. Yeah,
7:36
No, absolutely. And I mean as a
7:38
lot of the feedback we've had from
7:40
Bankers this morning from silver major investors
7:42
from the street is you know this
7:45
is a project as very manageable for
7:47
a company of of our size, it
7:49
all hundred million dollars or one hundred
7:51
and six million dollars have been a
7:53
topic to be if you are lucky
7:56
to find that fifty percent death, fifty
7:58
percent equity. I saw the. The something
8:00
that can now are you don't give
8:02
you can be accomplished by a company
8:04
of bar of our side. When.
8:06
I look at a number the other projects
8:09
out there. You're lucky that you know Three,
8:11
four, five hundred billion dollar affected. For.
8:13
Most of those types of projects you
8:15
really need a bit tap her to
8:18
build it. One. Of the things
8:20
that we looked at externally and
8:22
spent a lotta time on ah
8:24
and I think that the street
8:26
is really recognizing this is your
8:29
outta three hundred and seventy million
8:31
dollar after tax and p be
8:33
compared to a hundred and six
8:35
billion dollar. Our initial capital which
8:37
is I got a highlight does
8:40
include a twenty percent contingency. That.
8:42
Is a you know, three and
8:45
a half to one Npv to
8:47
rise topics ratio. When. You
8:50
know you start to look at other
8:52
projects out there and I would encourage
8:54
you or any of your listeners to
8:56
go find another project that that has
8:58
that kind of you know and pvt
9:01
to topics rate ratio and it'll be
9:03
very difficult to find. So that's one
9:05
of the things that really attractive about
9:07
this project is. Very. Low
9:09
tax for a big Npp, the I
9:12
R R as well as fifty eight
9:14
percent that A B C fifty gold
9:16
price. that's in a very attractive Iraq
9:19
and obviously last the to your pay
9:21
back at one point six years be
9:23
nice. Types of projects are incredibly difficult
9:25
to find, and the great thing about
9:28
it is we're not talking about fifty
9:30
or sixty thousand elses production. We're talking
9:32
about a project that produces a hundred
9:35
and twenty two thousand ounces over and
9:37
nine. You're buying one. With.
9:39
Obviously district scale exploration.
9:42
To grow up Beyond that.
9:44
All. Over deposits remain open a long
9:47
strides as well as it death. So
9:49
you see a nine year mine life
9:51
today. But. We're extremely confident
9:53
that obviously with additional exploration
9:55
we will. You don't We
9:58
will throw that. Overtime
10:00
so that's always yourself. Without We're
10:02
We're very excited about. The.
10:05
Source about potential margins in your
10:07
production profile, your operating costs and
10:09
your task force estimates are sub
10:12
one thousand dollars per ounce. You're
10:14
all and is just just eighteen
10:17
bucks. Over one thousand dollars will
10:19
call one thousand dollars even your
10:21
How does this compare? Your
10:24
peers in the same as same
10:26
area of development. So.
10:30
One. Of the great things about our
10:32
project is it the he Pleads project
10:34
so I probably should have mentioned his
10:36
would come to our an initial capital
10:39
as well. so each he week projects
10:41
is you and and a lot of
10:43
your most your listeners will probably no
10:46
are much lower cap back to bring
10:48
into production. Sir. Also lower topics
10:50
to ride or site, lower off
10:52
back to run once they are
10:54
into our into production. So for
10:56
our project we're looking at dumb,
10:58
a cast car and operating cost
11:01
of by eight hundred damn little
11:03
rate hundred dollars. Were looking at
11:05
a cost cost of nine hundred
11:07
and thirty four and an all
11:09
in sustaining cost of just over
11:11
a thousand dollars, Thousand and eighteen
11:13
dollars. So again he fleet project
11:15
that's one of the big advantages
11:17
is that from an operating. Costs
11:19
perspective as well as a Cap
11:22
X perspective. there much lower costs
11:24
and that's one of the things
11:26
that really helps Drive of the
11:28
of Easy. The economics of this
11:30
sort of this project is you
11:32
know the costs to run them
11:35
as well as to are ultimately
11:37
built them. Yeah. It's
11:39
probably good to talk about his
11:42
arm your we. For. This
11:44
updated p A repeat of like
11:46
the Podium. You. Know like of
11:48
podium for you is probably a host
11:50
household name but for a number of
11:53
your listeners it's probably important to highlight
11:55
that you know as a consultant their
11:57
the gold Standard in in West Africa.
12:00
Africa in terms of the a study
12:02
that they've done as well as the
12:04
project that they've built to be looked
12:06
at the last dozen odd projects that
12:09
like a podium. Has
12:11
been involved in. They've all been
12:13
either on time, on budget, ahead
12:15
of schedule, ahead of budget. Ah,
12:17
so that's one of the things
12:19
that you know. Also, would you
12:21
look at the numbers? It's important
12:24
to recognize that these are backed
12:26
by an engineering firm with a
12:28
really strong track record in in
12:30
Africa. I'm like the podium
12:32
for example is is part of
12:34
a team that's helping build ah
12:36
or sorry fan the a half
12:38
old project in gonna do months
12:40
project. they're putting another billion dollars into
12:42
that and.and like a podiums one
12:44
of the lead engineers on that
12:46
project. So it's a team that
12:48
we are. We really enjoyed working with
12:51
that. Obviously he knows your listeners
12:53
can have a lot of confidence
12:55
in the numbers that are presented
12:57
with in the P. As a
12:59
result the that. Proof
13:02
like a podium provide some insights and
13:04
how the next technical report which I
13:06
assume would be preliminary feasibility study might
13:08
be improved in one of the line
13:11
items that I can have picked up
13:13
here. Luca just as a shareholder and
13:15
the little nitty gritty is can you
13:17
improve your strip ratio which is now
13:20
about two and a half to one
13:22
and also could those gold recovery switches
13:24
so that eighty one point eight percent.
13:27
Is. Are opportunities for that to be
13:29
improve? Richard also benefit the economics and
13:31
your next technical report. I mean is
13:33
a room with those two areas for
13:35
improvement Or where would they be? Yeah.
13:39
So there's always room for improvement
13:41
in were always striving to improve.
13:43
I think we've seen a nice
13:45
improvement from the Twenty Twenty One
13:47
Are T A in terms of
13:49
the street economic? But. As well
13:51
as the significant amount a d
13:53
risking that's happened between Twenty Twenty one
13:56
and today, we've moved seven hundred
13:58
forty thousand out to dinner. Indicated
14:00
category out. We have done it
14:02
all Hundred the bottle role and
14:05
and column tests on this project.
14:07
So that eighty one point eight
14:09
percent says you're referring to from
14:12
a recovery perspective is backed by
14:14
a huge amount of tests were
14:16
sad.that supports it when you look
14:18
as the tests work. In all
14:21
the results that we that we've
14:23
been put out over the last
14:25
couple years we've averaged about ninety
14:28
one, ninety two percent off recovery.
14:30
Who have been that we've been That
14:32
test test where. We. Did this
14:34
that discount that sound eighty one
14:36
point eight and we felt well
14:38
again. we don't need to be
14:41
aggressive from a recovery perspective when
14:43
we already got to great economics
14:45
for the project. so let's see
14:47
that opportunity for the future. So
14:49
yes, we think there is an
14:51
opportunity to add a few more
14:53
percentage to that dumb or to
14:56
that recovery as we continue to
14:58
do additional. Additional
15:00
tests were. From. A stripping
15:02
perspective. Again this
15:04
the district scale exploration project.
15:07
All. Of our deposits remain open
15:09
a long stride and death death
15:12
so as we discover more oxide
15:14
else is odd near surface as
15:16
odyssey the strip ratio goes down
15:19
as we're bringing are typically can
15:21
always say it goes down but
15:23
typically as your discovery on surface
15:26
deposits v strip racial will be
15:28
going down. As you start
15:31
is to to to album ah
15:33
to dig deeper on he says
15:35
you obviously have wider pits at
15:37
the top of that of often
15:39
influence your overall strip ratio. So
15:41
yes we think is opportunity over
15:43
time to also improve our in
15:46
those areas as well as we
15:48
find four ounces to throw on
15:50
to the heat. P.
15:52
Ios really good move came as think a
15:54
lot of people were pleasantly surprised including myself.
15:56
I guess I'm a your I was a
15:58
surprise. I felt like. The thing was gonna be
16:01
pretty girl because I've been a shareholder for such a
16:03
long time so as happy to see it may be.
16:06
A half maybe proven right a little
16:08
better myself actually about your of it
16:10
by the you're you and I can
16:12
have conversations back and forth or off
16:14
line and I always ask you'll go
16:16
right? So when does the drill rig
16:18
come back when you hit hard with
16:20
expiration again in Nc Are you get
16:22
would Now that this update p A
16:24
is out is this is just the
16:26
time. To. Return with a with a
16:28
bigger drill program. Yeah.
16:31
So we're over the next few weeks
16:33
on is he gonna focus on getting
16:35
out there and and talking about the
16:37
p Ah with investors have been bested
16:39
bank with corporate ah so that's good
16:42
to be a big part of the
16:44
focus over the are over the next
16:46
few weeks. Obviously the economics
16:48
of this project I'm really highlight
16:51
at this is in in our
16:53
view of mine so the next
16:55
step is to take it towards
16:58
a I towards the Pff. So
17:00
management team perspective from a board
17:03
perspective on is your major shareholders
17:05
full all evaluate you know the
17:07
next step to take his towards
17:10
a I have Pfs. Or.
17:12
To that will obviously in malls are
17:14
drilling and one of the things that
17:16
were never gonna lose focus on is
17:19
obviously the the huge district scale exploration
17:21
that we got across. Ah, The
17:23
project so. Balancing. Those two
17:25
things is what we've always done and
17:27
will continue to do to ultimately three
17:29
value for our shareholders and for all
17:32
our stakeholders. So that would be the
17:34
focus for the up up for the
17:36
next few weeks or so. Next you
17:38
want. Well obviously we're continuing
17:40
to do a point to. Do
17:44
too much. Even though we
17:46
feel we're pushing a Pfs level
17:48
network, gas at this point will
17:50
continue to do that. Ah, Or.
17:53
Doing condemnation drilling across the area
17:55
where the keep least pad would
17:57
go were doing ideological June. Ideological
18:00
or test work as well as to
18:02
tech work on the project. Will again
18:05
these are all things that may not
18:07
be really exciting for the market but
18:09
there are crucial to war to to
18:12
take a project towards the production decision.
18:14
So we've been doing a lot of
18:16
that work over the last couple years.
18:19
In the background that has really been
18:21
highlighted with been This P A Killer
18:23
continues to do that. Work.
18:25
So that we can move towards that
18:28
next step above via of getting a
18:30
Pfs wrapped around this project and ultimately
18:32
defeated into production. The
18:35
road loot. Thanks so much more time
18:37
again Congratulations are getting this out! Oh
18:39
that was very highly anticipated as a.
18:43
Very positive catching up with you over going.
18:46
He gets a little bit more clarification about
18:48
next desperately you're and the coming weeks and
18:50
that's when we'll talk to you next. Think.
18:53
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18:55
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18:57
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