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as going to be joining us once

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share with the I think you're going

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to enjoy I'm were going to get

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in the way back machine here do

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some what if some and if al

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and what if. Your. Favorite

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pro football team. could tap

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in. To. It's own history

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and bring back one player in his

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prime to join the Twenty Twenty Four

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doing that with a quartet of Nfl

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football teams close to Chris. Long Hard

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will do that just a second. In

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the meantime, Etti Spaghetti. I don't have

1:01

to tell you it is a huge

1:03

night at the time. This recording Thursday

1:05

night. Eighty. Is. I.

1:08

Guess really? Judgment night in the Nhl

1:10

for the teams battling to get that

1:12

last wild card. By the way. I

1:14

should also mention of the time of

1:16

this recording we just found out or

1:18

and are James Simpson football legend has

1:21

passed away. Maybe we'll have some thoughts

1:23

on add. A. Little later on for

1:25

you. But in the meantime to the matter at hand.

1:28

The. A. Deeds upcoming on

1:30

the ice. the caps in the Sabres or

1:32

get mad I'm up there in Western New

1:34

York the Pittsburgh Penguins are playing. It hosted

1:37

the Detroit Red Wings. Not a must win

1:39

for either team, but both teams gotta have

1:41

it. If they want to stay in the

1:43

playoff chase. and the Islanders look gray, be

1:46

secure. there's the Blue Blog de Rooij. Pay

1:48

a visit. To. Long

1:50

Island and Dad that's that Etti spaghetti.

1:52

Except to say shame the devil, your

1:54

Flyers play host. I be your rags.

1:57

play host to the Flyers. After.

1:59

Failing to be the islanders, you couldn't do me

2:01

a favor. Thousand. Bad first

2:03

period one of the worse. yeah members are

2:05

undecided quite some time and a really turned

2:07

on the second. third period but some on

2:09

Varlamov who was starting in place of alias

2:12

or elegance to seem so is that the

2:14

Rangers never had a really good game and

2:16

me out screeners as need three points in

2:18

their next handful of games last soto to

2:20

clinch the madrassas. Ah and this gamers the

2:22

Flyers humans as a means dropping so many

2:24

games. As a way I think they'll be

2:26

able to a two points in this one

2:29

than just and at one point he can

2:31

be a loser. Points in Eskimo. Massive! The

2:33

are playing the Islanders again how the Ottawa Senators

2:35

Monday so you know I hope that the range

2:37

of do clinch the macha would be nice to

2:40

get the prizes trophy as well but yeah I

2:42

was. I was a very poor first period and

2:44

yeah but if you would be nice if you

2:46

if you want to take out the Islanders don't

2:48

you see that then the Bruins are feeling like

2:51

wow wow we can catch the rags in the

2:53

standings much as lay down our swords and save

2:55

save them for the play offs and on Saturday

2:57

they pay a visit the Pittsburgh so they wouldn't

3:00

try arts and the Penguins are get another breezy

3:02

two points. Don't see it was selfish

3:04

of the rags, not the B

3:06

B Islanders the other nights. Anyhow,

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let's say let's begin their wow.

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Ah Chris Long and I are yap and

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eighty spaghetti. I want you to be thinking

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about the the New York Football Giants you

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and by the way, lot of

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6:52

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6:55

this will be our year. Could be. Let's

6:58

expand on that. And

7:00

not make the pool of players

7:03

available for drafting just the current

7:05

student athletes who are now pro-draftable.

7:08

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7:10

team's history. Philadelphia

7:13

Eagles can bring back

7:15

one player in his prime and stick

7:17

them on the 2024 Philadelphia Eagles roster.

7:20

Who is it? You can pick yourself

7:22

if you want to, by the way.

7:24

No. That would be fun

7:26

because then I get to play on a good team

7:28

in my prime. That'd be incredible. Dude,

7:31

I mean, you went back to back Super Bowls. Well,

7:34

I went in my prime. You know what I mean? I see.

7:37

I was old. It'd be fun to be like young

7:39

and really good. And like be on a team

7:41

like that, you get a bunch of love and it'd be awesome.

7:43

Does it feel that way? We'll save

7:45

that conversation for another day. But boy, you're

7:47

great at representing the frame of mind of

7:49

an athlete. I

7:52

really am fascinated by it because you've done for

7:55

us like the day, The 24

7:57

hours running up to the Super Bowl, what

7:59

You're Doing. With your salvia, an hour by hour

8:01

and all that kind of stops and it's spellbinding to

8:03

listen to. I know my mind telling your friends who

8:06

is this is think is like you think of it

8:08

as a regular but then once you realize it is

8:10

so many doing this and like know it's not regular

8:12

it says. That if I was,

8:14

if I was listening to a baseball

8:16

podcast was earning watch baseball like that

8:18

And somebody who's give me the insight.

8:21

On. Like minute to minute what they do

8:23

I'd be so intrigued maybe part of as

8:25

been an athlete but while now and I

8:27

always do wonder it's like how desperate are

8:29

you to get the ring like Raymond Bork

8:32

is this Boston Bruins obliging for all of

8:34

tie down at L Meta Bob yours but

8:36

he was like i really want to ring

8:38

and so he wanted it to Colorado Denver

8:40

Colorado to get it's like how much as

8:42

I went to New England again and a

8:45

mean. You know me well. but did

8:47

it feel like I would have been by like I

8:49

have to chase this one. I wish he would have

8:51

been lied to. Your team zeal around only too Well

8:53

yes and no. You don't feel that way. You just

8:56

feel like when you're on like I was on the

8:58

rails for a long time. He was. Those games so

9:00

nobody knows they don't know who your they They have

9:02

a boon for some notion of who you are. But.

9:06

They don't have a yard. And then I you

9:08

end up on a good team and will be you

9:10

play pretty good like I played pretty good in Philly

9:12

but I wasn't me. you know to me I was

9:14

older so yeah to answer the question be like year

9:16

be cool if. I. Got to

9:18

plan prime time. A year where I'm. Where.

9:21

I was. relatively. Dominant

9:23

or something ios to slide. When.

9:25

You get there and you're old. You're gonna

9:27

like hey world. You. Know me as

9:30

thirty four year old guy who would who

9:32

runs and it hurts It looks like a

9:34

hurts you know. Ah it looks at the

9:36

efforts of this you and oh that's a sick

9:38

joke. You know it's kind of sick joke. like

9:40

zero give. you would see what was going to

9:42

look like a shell of yourself. That's.

9:45

Why I'll be fun but who I would

9:47

add to to fill you by by you

9:49

Went viral a couple months ago by talking

9:51

about context matters in pro football. Korea is

9:53

is what we talk about endlessly on the

9:55

show. This is about that contact so it's

9:57

super interesting to think about. Like. They

10:00

date your. Will. Hold on a

10:02

good why you must and even better. Well I

10:04

ryan ten and old but you know guys like

10:06

that like right You know a Roth as burger

10:09

and all big time to be when there's a

10:11

younger guy who's brought in Aaron Rodgers and other

10:13

that they always are like I'm not here to

10:15

teach. I guess gotta be a wake up I'm

10:17

only thirty two years old but muh context of

10:19

football you're an old man now as I stay.

10:21

Teach this guy how to do like that done

10:24

yet I don't want to teach him how to

10:26

replace me he didn't all me on a phone,

10:28

Ross's and example this where he is all greys

10:30

been or store and like now. He has to

10:32

light. Be. What The

10:34

other Half lives? Like you had

10:36

said. So. In a weird

10:38

way, it's an ego blow for people.

10:41

That dude is solid as malfeasance. He

10:43

is not what we don't. We have

10:45

normal like we have normal. For.

10:47

The most part you would hope healthy

10:49

like normally. So if you get like

10:52

encouraged and you're like you know, whatever

10:54

and then or sudden Ross's. Ross's.

10:56

Not only. Going. To thing he

10:59

went there in Denver but he thinks I go through

11:01

me a lifeboat. Arizona. Press conferences

11:03

Get the the blacks for Tony's.

11:06

And. Affair county's like I miss her. Steeler

11:08

hide. And then three days

11:10

later they like and were trained for

11:13

just feels and it's just. It's.

11:15

The reality the Nfl like the

11:17

the security when you're great player.

11:20

Is awesome. You. Know, but you earned it.

11:22

But. It is awesome. Be used to it. You.

11:25

Know and although I was never like a

11:27

great great player. I. Still

11:29

got I was like team captain India

11:31

like one of the guys so. You.

11:35

Know when when you when you change teams,

11:37

it's There are some moments where you're like

11:39

damn, do this with the intervals like it's

11:41

first and you really respect you. Always respect

11:43

undrafted free agents. And. He respected

11:45

guys. add of really like. Come.

11:48

Outta nowhere. But. When you get to

11:50

be older and they treat you that way a low

11:52

be more it's his eye opening of the said. oh

11:55

man i'd that and in out

11:57

again context you lots of money

11:59

and you're superhuman physically and all that

12:01

kind of stuff. I think it does create

12:04

a different level of ego and

12:06

a different reality that you reside in versus one

12:08

eye. Anybody would be affected the way that

12:10

some guys get affected. For sure. Because you're only

12:12

human. Of course, and so you're

12:15

susceptible to the treats that come along with

12:17

being a multimillionaire who is a superhuman physically

12:19

and handsome and all that kind of stuff.

12:21

Of course, that opens different doors for you

12:23

than- But I just mean security as in

12:25

like, you don't have to look over your

12:27

shoulder to see if somebody- I mean exactly

12:29

what you mean. Yeah, I get it on

12:31

the other side. And that's the, yeah, the

12:33

way people think about it is like, oh,

12:35

life's good. But you spend, if you really

12:37

care about football, I'm

12:39

much, my life's way easier

12:42

now. My life's way chiller

12:44

now. Like you spend every

12:47

minute of the day paranoid. Even that's the

12:49

way I'm wired. But I can imagine being

12:51

Russell Wilson and going to the

12:53

Hall of Fame and like that. Like that's gonna

12:55

be great. You can have your own office if

12:57

you want your own office. So like how far

12:59

you fall when you're one of those superstars and

13:02

late in your career, you gotta kind of shovel a

13:04

little bit that can suck. Cause I know we joke

13:07

a lot about Russ, but his

13:09

belief, like he believes in himself. Like

13:11

that's a big part of it. And

13:14

right now he still does. The

13:16

rest of the world could be like, hey, you're not as good. But

13:19

in his head, he's gotta think that way. And it's

13:21

hard to turn that off. It's

13:23

right. That's exactly right. And I

13:26

say it all the time. When people get into, he's

13:29

an odd bird or whatever, man. He goes to

13:31

children's hospital and sees those kids and did it

13:33

the day after he threw the interception to Malcolm

13:35

Butler. You're not gonna hear me bad mouth and

13:37

the cat that is wrestling with him. There are

13:39

bad people that have played in our league. He's

13:41

not one of them. Yeah, I'm not gonna call

13:43

him a dork because he did that. Brian Dawkins.

13:46

Well, that's your answer. Cause

13:49

that secondary needs an edge. Now CJ

13:51

Gardner Johnson is bringing it back. And

13:54

I know they just signed a Vonta Maddox, but

13:56

like the first person that came

13:59

to my mind was. was be doc. Um,

14:01

I guess another, another one with the

14:03

departure of Fletcher Cox would be, you

14:06

know, how about Reggie white? I mean, he can

14:09

play inside, he can play outside offensively.

14:11

They have, I mean,

14:13

AJ Brown, I don't like T O, but

14:15

if I have a choice to replace any

14:17

position, I'm not gonna, I'm

14:19

not gonna, not T O broke outside. You

14:21

know what I mean? Um, so

14:24

yeah, I think you got it. I think

14:26

Reggie white Scott, Brian Dawkins makes a ton

14:29

of sense. I'm a Samuel, like a corner,

14:31

like, like a, like a, a

14:33

really good corner or something like that. When

14:35

you start going through them that an entire,

14:37

I know you've had that conversation with

14:40

big cat recently about, I mean, but it's wild

14:42

that you, it's like you are doing it on

14:44

purpose. If you're the bears like 60 years

14:47

of Super Bowls and the best ever

14:49

you had was Jay Cutler. Like this

14:51

is, you can't, you can't accident

14:53

your way into something. Yeah. Which also

14:57

tells you, yeah. And

14:59

I think there's a, like you look at the Browns, somebody

15:02

in there on that Jersey with

15:05

all the taped, uh, names written

15:07

in Sharpie, you know, the Jersey sure.

15:10

Somebody in there had to actually be a

15:12

good football player. And it's a shame for

15:14

whoever that was because that

15:16

situation has been until

15:18

recently. Right. And so like talking

15:21

about context, like it is

15:23

not statistically likely that

15:25

you have a run of bad players

15:28

that long in one position. Something organizationally

15:30

is wrong too. Yes. Yeah.

15:32

Modell was the through line for many, many

15:34

decades. So yeah, you can definitely hang it

15:36

on him. Um, yeah. I

15:39

wonder co-star, I guess he would be the

15:41

best Browns QB, uh, of the last 50

15:44

years or so. Okay. Velichek take care of that.

15:48

He did. He didn't

15:50

he replace Cozart. Wasn't that because

15:52

in the dynasty they were talking

15:55

about they're drawing a parallel between,

15:57

um, him. That sounds

15:59

like a. him on feeding drew blood.

16:01

So because he didn't him and Ernie were

16:03

like, eh, everybody else is like, what are

16:05

you doing? And bill did the

16:07

same thing in Cleveland. So his was

16:09

on the line for doing this because

16:12

he had also this up. Charlie Fry

16:14

Kelly Kelly. I think it was over maybe.

16:16

I don't know who you're. Oh, he

16:18

replaced Bernie

16:21

replaced somebody. The recite was there

16:23

forever. When an MVP and 80.

16:26

Okay. Um, first one you

16:28

were a Ram. Best Ram

16:31

that the LA Rams could add to their

16:33

roster right now. Aaron Donald. That

16:36

makes sense. I mean,

16:39

think about their roster. I really do think

16:42

they're like offensively. They're

16:44

pretty good. I, you know, I guess

16:47

you say Orlando pace would be great because

16:49

you've got Matt Stafford who's older and

16:51

still worth being invested in like that.

16:54

But you know,

16:56

they added Darius Williams.

16:59

They added a curl.

17:01

They're attacking the secondary position. I

17:04

like it. And last year

17:06

if their secondary was a lot better, they'd have

17:08

been, they've also got some backers that, you know,

17:10

you're going to cycle through that

17:13

are kind of just averaging coverage or whatever. But

17:15

the guy up front that you could use

17:17

ironically is the guy that just retired. That's

17:20

a great call. I love it. And Aaron

17:22

Donald I, I w where you lose me,

17:24

not you is when people make the argument

17:26

for people that they never saw play. Like

17:28

you think that running backs as good as

17:30

Jim Brown friend, let me tell you like,

17:32

what do you know about him? I'm adding Merlin

17:34

Olsen. Yeah.

17:37

You know, who's the stuff to

17:39

my, but the fearsome force and what's really

17:41

made go by Rosie Greer. People who was

17:43

a Greer. He came by and sat in

17:45

our D line room. Is that

17:47

right? Cool shit. Ian Jones also came,

17:49

came to talk to the team and the

17:52

message was, was colorful. It was

17:54

he, he, he really, he's really,

17:57

he Needed a microphone in

17:59

his hand. I'll put it there. Why he would have

18:01

been perfect for today's media. Out. While

18:03

they said, i know they're in

18:05

Hollywood, but Rosie Greer, Deacon Jones,

18:07

I'm Fred Dryer and Merlin. All

18:10

in all, go on to be

18:12

actors. Is that weirder? To. Be

18:14

a bit than the two of the twenty

18:16

best Nfl players of all time. Went to

18:18

Mississippi Valley State Jerry Rice and that is

18:20

weird but so is so is the fact

18:23

that those guys or had acting chops. Yes

18:25

Jack Young Bloods is such a bath. And.

18:28

And how long? son? Played.

18:31

For the for the Rams is wow as

18:33

family along with a movie sorry as ours

18:36

did I thought about that sounds been all

18:38

coming together it is. Now that

18:40

that aforementioned son who played for the Rams

18:42

also play for the Patriots, who should that

18:44

He mad. The. Patriots who that.

18:49

I don't want to be boring and say Tom Brady

18:51

because Lloyds if Tom Brady was as Brian, how what

18:53

do you think this team plays are owed on up.

18:56

The. Great! I mean I would assume

18:58

they be really good. bye. More

19:01

I would be more convinced now that

19:03

Brady in his prime, would be able

19:05

to carry the day with a mediocre

19:07

pages team did I was three years

19:09

ago. I do like the ones that

19:11

were on Wow, it's gotta be ballot

19:13

check. And Brady's pretty clear Now it's

19:15

Brady. Eighty percent, twenty percent ballots excluded.

19:17

Well. Let's say. Let's.

19:19

Say we know that, do the Brady think and

19:22

so he can. I say

19:24

growth because if they had grown

19:26

can his prime right now. They.

19:30

Would. Is.

19:32

Also. The

19:34

gop answer here to was of Aaron Hernandez was

19:36

and who he was he would They said he

19:38

would have been like the best football player of

19:41

all types of he delights. Non.

19:43

Murder and Hernandez like you my

19:45

puts a grant to. Having

19:47

a tight end. For.

19:50

Whoever they are, they're talking about seizure

19:52

as the guy into a situation like

19:54

this. is it? Irresponsible. It's

19:56

only years for a would not be irresponsible

19:58

of the of prime ground. Then came to

20:00

dow be rookies best buddy and then

20:02

you just go draft whoever you're in

20:04

love with and the same would you'd

20:06

say go we'd We had to start

20:09

but. I'm I

20:11

like Alan quite a bit. I wonder if

20:13

grandkid guys like that or think unlike man

20:15

if I would is. Hop

20:17

Just like five years later than

20:19

I did. They. Would have been

20:21

cutting away my girlfriend at the time

20:23

in the luxury box like I wonder

20:26

if their sites that feel we have

20:28

of like that. Kelsey finally reached a

20:30

certain plateau in his he transcended my

20:33

homes and everybody else in football is

20:35

he was with he's still with Camille

20:37

cause thicker whoever it is and and

20:40

radio his head of same as girlfriend

20:42

yeah cause. I'm okay. last one I've

20:44

held the way too long. but we gotta do. the

20:47

Pittsburgh Steelers are going to have one guy back in.

20:49

This is a juice. I got a I got I

20:51

got a guy. Danica. Spanish.

20:54

Cast Sixty Six. Not even the greatest

20:57

Sixty Six in Pittsburgh sports history. I

20:59

liked Alan Faneca s guy who was

21:01

the greatest Sixty Six since it's from

21:03

source is it is hockey at Mario

21:05

Lemieux that matches talker A to star

21:07

athlete an American sport know to marry

21:09

a Lemieux. Get the run game going

21:11

for the for the half. Miller's probably

21:13

says it's probably that's as I use

21:15

only one of my Chicago bodies as

21:17

as Walter Payton to play any position.

21:22

But but no, I think I'm. I.

21:24

Think it would. I just thought about needs

21:27

and I'm Mike Webster and me what they

21:29

need is a center but also view good

21:31

points about this Troy Polamalu and make a

21:33

fitzpatrick to a valid that would be the

21:36

end of Been On a Throne The Ball

21:38

Right or Mom blogger Rod Woodson alongside Joey

21:40

Porter Jr. on the other side I yeah

21:43

for I go. Yeah I mean

21:45

like, listen, Corners. Always

21:47

going to change the game. You know, so

21:49

is he is. He really feel like a disco

21:51

corner. I'm not going to argue. oh

21:53

beans big dude we can have him return

21:56

are kicks and punches while he did it

21:58

take great success in his prime We'll

22:00

use Antonio Brown. Whatever

22:03

happened to that guy? But in his

22:06

prime before he was like all the way out

22:08

there, I think

22:10

AB AB might be the

22:12

answer, honestly, because he's going

22:14

to make any offense better. That dude was incredible.

22:17

You just love him because he was a patriot.

22:19

All right. Listen, Chris Long, you're the best. I

22:23

swear I could do another three hours without bad.

22:25

We got to come back anytime. Happy

22:28

back anytime. And you're overdue on

22:30

our show. So come back. We'll

22:32

have a knockdown drag out. Well,

22:35

I would love to do it. And

22:37

I said to Kyle, I said to you as

22:39

well. I

22:41

want you to confront him about this because it's it's

22:44

a black guy. Well, listen, it's

22:46

a black guy for the entire Long family.

22:49

I'm surprised that Howie or your mom or

22:51

someone else hasn't stepped in here and been

22:53

like, don't you see what you did? You

22:55

slapped half of the city of Chicago in the

22:57

face when you turned down the white Sox. I

22:59

want you to talk to him about he did

23:01

turn down the white Sox. Turned

23:04

around and stuck around like you're not good

23:07

enough for me, but the Bears are like

23:09

it turned out to be a decent decision.

23:11

But man, we could have been maybe a lot

23:13

richer if he if he really

23:15

stuck it out in baseball. He's

23:17

I mean, he's right. He's talk about in his

23:19

prime. He'd still be in it. Yeah, selfish. He'd

23:21

be working out of the pan with the pitch.

23:24

In front of 300 people at Comiskey. That's

23:28

it. One batter. He's the

23:30

lefty specialist that they bring in in

23:32

the seventh to shut it down. They're

23:34

trying to rally against the pale hose.

23:37

Oh, here comes long. Throwing mid 90

23:39

feet from the left side strikes out

23:41

that guy. You're done for the day,

23:44

friend. You did you imagine how

23:46

cool he would look in a baseball uniform at 310. Yeah,

23:49

real good. Be all like DJ like DJ

23:52

Burns does in a basketball uniform. That's right.

23:55

All right. Listen, Chris Long, I think

23:57

if you haven't won a bunch of fans, I'd be

23:59

surprised. from your latest

24:01

visit here. Go check him out on Green

24:03

Light. He and his brother and all the

24:06

cats running around there. It's gang buster stuff

24:08

as good a listen as you're gonna get

24:10

if you're a podcast consumer. Also track them

24:12

down on social media. The videos are hysterical

24:14

too. In fact, I ran into your pal,

24:16

Stanford Steve and

24:19

a Resillo a couple of months ago. And I

24:21

said to them, what the hell's wrong? What, Chris

24:23

Long all right? Like what's he doing in a

24:25

pumpkin going down the river? Oh, the pumpkin. Yeah.

24:28

I am okay. That's the sign of being okay.

24:30

If you ever see somebody doing something like that

24:33

where they're just like, Hey, I'm following my dreams.

24:35

Yeah. They're okay. I was, I was doing good.

24:38

I was right where I wanted to be. Almost made

24:40

it too. I

24:43

was worried sick for you. I was glad to hear

24:45

that the mission was over. With

24:48

the help of my buddies here at Green Light, I

24:50

survived. Awesome stuff. Okay. Great times,

24:52

Chris Long. We appreciate the time and

24:54

we'll hope to talk soon rather than

24:56

later, Pally. All right, brother. There

24:59

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right, there he goes. One more time.

25:39

Another gangbusters appearance there. You now know

25:41

why he won a Shecky Award multiple

25:43

times. Why his jersey hangs in the

25:45

digital wall of fame. For

25:47

eternity, Eddie Spaghetti, Chris Long. First

25:49

question to you is, the

25:52

New York football giant you most

25:54

would like to see return for

25:56

2024 to a Danny Dimes and

25:58

company. Well, can we- use

26:00

quarterback because I feel like this is easy.

26:02

I've been, I won't use quarterback. You're right.

26:04

Um, it would be like Manning is the

26:07

easiest answer. Giants are also very thick cornerback,

26:09

also very thin at wide receiver. I think

26:12

because the giant's history of corner is not

26:15

super strong. Like I'm trying to think that

26:17

their best was like Corey Webster when they

26:19

won the Superbowls and he wasn't, so the

26:21

answer is a corner in the history of

26:23

the reason. No, I'm just trying to think

26:26

of the top of my head recently, but

26:28

I think I would probably go an offensive

26:31

weapon. Darren Waller may retire too. So like

26:33

Jeremy shock, he'd be a really fun one.

26:35

But Plaxio burrows probably, um, just a big

26:37

body receiver that plays the outside, not the

26:40

slot. Um, I know the giants may is

26:42

a really good chance giants may draft a

26:44

receiver at pick number six or wherever they

26:46

pick in this draft, deeper receiver class, probably

26:48

the best we've ever seen, um, in

26:51

terms of, you know, pre-draft the ranking. So, but I,

26:53

I think to get, um, that

26:55

we have not really had a weapon as a

26:57

real threat in the past game since Odell Beckham.

26:59

And I think to get somebody back like Plax

27:02

who is this big body who could, you

27:04

know, a matchup nightmare, um, would make life

27:06

a lot easier for whoever the giants quarterback

27:08

is. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I

27:11

think you just touched on it there in a glancing way.

27:14

Prime Odell is what you want, right? You

27:16

want year two Odell Beckham playing for the giants.

27:18

I mean, you couldn't beat that. That's the best

27:20

receiver that your team's ever had. Unless it was

27:22

Frank Gifford. You could bring back Gifford by the

27:24

way, if you want. I'm good on

27:27

Frank Gifford. Uh, but yeah, I didn't

27:29

even think about Odell because Odell is

27:31

still active in the NFL. So I

27:33

didn't even think about, oh yeah, right.

27:35

That would defy our thing, but still

27:37

that would be pretty good. That's a

27:39

fun thought experiment too. If Eli Manning

27:41

in his prime came back, would you

27:43

favor the giants to win the 2024

27:45

NFC East? If

27:48

we got back Eli and then that means they

27:50

could stand padded six and just take either neighbors

27:52

or doing that, whoever's there. I Feel pretty good.

27:55

Uh, the Giants right now are still better than

27:57

Washington because Washington never. the vagina so that's one

27:59

thing the Meadowlands and you know I I i

28:01

think the rhine the makes like out as I

28:03

think Dallas took a beating as all season I

28:05

think it was a lot a key players by

28:08

in this home enough to keep them into the

28:10

plant conversation. I think spiel will be good bye

28:12

I think I don't wanna some some of their

28:14

awesome as but the amazon the big splashy move

28:16

would say kwan and whoever else I do nine

28:18

to be reiner match the like as you can

28:20

make the case if the north gas in the

28:23

way I deal in our it's kind of had

28:25

a and a year if there was have anointed.

28:27

Every time he took a step back I think

28:29

the a. Prize July with a great rookie

28:31

receiver. I I'd like the designs are

28:33

doubled merits and when t with you

28:35

I mean oh wow. I mean, by

28:37

the way, if we're allowed the tap

28:39

into Qb than there's no formal rules

28:41

and you can't I don't even know

28:43

if any of this bringing back a

28:45

player air in his prime to twenty

28:47

twenty four is even doable. I'm not

28:50

even sure that we're going to be

28:52

able to pull this one off, but

28:54

if we are and we can do

28:56

a quarterback, Ben, Ben Roethlisberger on the

28:58

Steelers makes them the Superbowl favorite including.

29:00

In a conference it includes Padma Homes and The

29:02

Cheese. I wonder if that's true. If

29:05

you put prime Ben Roethlisberger on

29:07

that Steelers roster right now with

29:09

the bookmakers, favor them over my

29:11

homes in the Chiefs. Elsa you

29:13

spaghetti? Or my serve

29:15

the put him over my home sloth

29:17

though. But. I think they would and

29:19

I'm picking the Steelers win the division. they would have

29:22

a bit division favorite. They would probably be. At

29:24

least me I read the very worst top

29:26

three may have. See when terms of the

29:29

odds are I think that the books probably

29:31

just because the the team has won back

29:33

to back. It's weird to I could take

29:35

away like you have to leave it.that dynastic

29:37

team at the top spot so you that

29:40

would be a very very great team that

29:42

with the with think wow concealer So okay

29:44

so first of all you touchdown the Giants

29:46

tight ends. I mean and say about Mart

29:48

Barbarella course at the or eliminate the need

29:51

of them as long as the Irish by

29:53

the am in his. Prime. He just got

29:55

so beaten up he didn't have much of

29:57

an Or, but it didn't have an extended

29:59

Korea. But okay, If. You to

30:01

do that? The. Chiefs. Maybe.

30:04

We have to check in with one of our keeps people

30:07

to weigh in on this. I don't want to make this

30:09

decision for and by. Think. Like

30:11

what if you could get Tony Gonzalez? Or.

30:15

And retiree Kill Stone the lead. But

30:17

boy that would be a nice addition

30:19

for that team as well. I'm anyway.

30:21

that's good times. And like we say,

30:23

Oj is gone and people are cracking

30:25

wise about it on Thursday morning at

30:27

the time of this recording. The thing

30:30

to me as I don't be the

30:32

weirdo who is honoring his football legacy.

30:34

Now's not the time for that. Also.

30:37

All. The hacky joke line around there

30:39

I'm guilty of make and I'm already.

30:42

I'm. By.to me the signature

30:44

thing with him was ts how

30:46

bizarre that night was. And Ninety

30:48

Ninety Four. I remember I was

30:50

going out step meet some chums.

30:52

It was around my birthday and

30:54

they were calling me. And.

30:56

My way and line because there was no such thing

30:58

as cell phones and I remember them calling me like,

31:00

where are you from the bar. Has. Like.

31:03

Are you guys watching what's happening? With

31:05

that? I mean the knickerbockers and and

31:07

The Rockets are playing. But. At

31:09

the same time they're split the screen

31:11

cause football legend Oj Simpson is driving

31:13

down the freeway somewhere in Los Angeles.

31:16

Try Now. Run Johnny A Law! It

31:18

was so bizarre I can't really. Tell

31:20

you what it was like even though

31:23

spaghetti you walk the planet earth at

31:25

the time year old man's watch, a

31:27

bear in Staten Island rooting for your

31:29

knickerbockers tear to I Beat a team,

31:32

The Dreaming Company and in the meantime

31:34

the screen is is that that script

31:36

John Starks and Company or in the

31:38

small screaming Sat while everybody was watching

31:41

again. the icon Oj Simpson tried to

31:43

flee the law was just so weird

31:45

it's hard to articulate even here. And

31:47

twenty Twenty Four Thirty years later he

31:50

asked my. bosses watson you're doing in

31:52

and starts in an ode to try

31:54

to win the one that seriously interrupted

31:57

with bad and it's this is strange

31:59

out He's a hard, you know,

32:01

subject for the human brain to tackle because

32:03

part of you, like you mentioned, like a

32:05

fantastic football player was great in television. Anything

32:08

he did, people loved him. He was just

32:10

beloved. That's the weird part is like you

32:12

want to kind of gloss over. It's like,

32:14

this is the hard part, not like, okay,

32:16

begrudgingly boy. He was really good at football.

32:18

It's like, boy, he was

32:21

really funny and naked gun. Yeah.

32:23

That's what the, what people

32:25

like you probably remember. You don't remember ever seeing

32:27

him play football. I, yeah, there's not a ton

32:29

of like highlights with him. Like, but I know

32:31

from him is like, yeah, his number, you know,

32:33

at USC and they had that, like he was

32:35

great there. And then having him, uh, play for

32:37

the build, like his 1973 season when he averaged

32:39

like 143 yards per game, which

32:41

is just absurd. Um, but then you,

32:44

then he goes onto this next phase of his

32:46

career, sort of like, you know, modern day Michael

32:48

Strand of sorts, where he just like this beloved

32:50

figure across the country. And then he goes

32:52

and does something like that, which I don't mean,

32:54

obviously we all know, like, you know, we all

32:56

think he did it in the, in the, the

32:59

details are extremely gruesome, but then it's like, he's

33:01

now back on Twitter and he, they, you know,

33:03

he's like, makes these funny videos. And he just,

33:05

he just really throws people's brains for a little

33:07

because you don't know how to like to respond

33:10

to it. So he just kind of

33:12

this like figure that we all know kind of

33:14

did it, but he got out, they did get

33:16

him on like that weird, um, you know, memorabilia

33:18

charge, whatever. So he's just out into Las Vegas

33:20

golfing constantly. Um, obviously, you know, he passed away

33:22

from cancer, but it's just weird that like I,

33:24

I said off air to you that like my

33:26

parents first, when I first moved out here, my

33:28

friends made their first visit. We're like, Oh, what

33:31

do you want to do? And they're like, why

33:33

don't we go check out, you know, OJ Simpson,

33:35

you know, the house and the scene. I was

33:37

like, okay, like people actually want to be a

33:39

part of history in that sense. And it's weird

33:41

that, you know, we, it's,

33:43

it's not somebody that like, you know, no

33:46

one across the board hated him. Like he was just a

33:48

guy that it's weird because once you love somebody, it's hard

33:50

to kind of flip the other way. Um, And

33:52

again, it's, it's such a big part of culture,

33:54

going dating back to the seventies when he was

33:57

playing to all his, his career and movies. and

33:59

TV. Then you know I was would

34:01

have a Ninety Four and and then it

34:03

had this resurgence widows documentaries and with that

34:05

you know the American Horror Story or Prime

34:07

Stories are version with Cuba Gooding Jr. doing

34:09

I'm so lucky I don't care about that

34:11

than a monoculture forever. The. Dramatize version

34:14

of a go watch the actual

34:16

documentaries and and what I did

34:18

who had attempted tab you know

34:20

volunteer some defensive of Oj. same

34:22

the devil but an yeah. Well.

34:25

Said though, they'd That's right, that's some that

34:27

we talk about a lot. It's hard to

34:30

and ring the bell with your thought. You

34:32

know you people like this guy in a

34:34

wasn't for a couple years and mean, but

34:36

you know it does extended through his playing

34:38

career and any was on Tv. In fact,

34:41

if he had banned, you know, thirty years

34:43

late, twenty years later, In

34:45

terms of his sort of media rise

34:47

he probably be like you know hosted

34:49

at daytime talk show or said next

34:51

that's Kelly rep are so who knows

34:53

what we found a weird out kind

34:55

of stuff he would have turned into

34:57

by yeah that was a mean he

34:59

was and pregame shows and field reporters

35:01

and all Aca of field reporters and

35:03

all of our wearing the gloves that

35:05

died on allegedly he may be was

35:07

where I don't know what it's going

35:09

on. I'm would still

35:11

have that. So bizarre. To.

35:13

Look back, I'm mad. And you

35:16

know that Norm Macdonald the comedian

35:18

is now. Just. Heather day

35:20

him for all of time and and

35:22

all of that I am anyway. I

35:25

guess I'm will have anything profound the

35:27

say about it other than a fascinating.

35:30

study in not just the human

35:32

being but in the like you

35:34

say our reaction to him and

35:36

how vara page is gonna turn

35:39

one hundred eighty degrees against them

35:41

i'm and deservedly sell but anyway

35:43

enough about that ugliness air we

35:45

were busy delving in their pro

35:47

football history the try and make

35:49

it relevant we don't need them

35:51

to bring back oj anymore i'm

35:53

into that conversation we do appreciate

35:56

hang on with us for another

35:58

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36:00

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