0:29

Welcome back to missing. I am Tim here

0:31

today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

0:34

Doing fantastic today, Tim. The

0:36

conversation we have was a raw

0:38

one very emotional, very powerful,

0:41

I hope everyone listens to it and takes

0:43

something from it. And I hope everyone

0:45

out there is doing well, and I hope you're

0:47

doing well on this fine Tuesday morning.

0:49

Thank you, Lance. I am

0:51

doing well, and I am not

0:53

really in this conversation. I was was present

0:55

for it, but I I didn't speak at

0:57

all in this conversation with Anida. Anida

1:00

is Pappita Red Hair's mom.

1:03

And Pappita Red Hair went missing from

1:05

Albuquerque, New Mexico on

1:07

March twenty seventh twenty

1:09

twenty. She was twenty seven years old

1:11

at the time of her disappearance, which would make her

1:14

thirty years old today. She is a

1:16

native American female, brown

1:18

hair, five foot one, about a hundred and forty

1:20

one pounds. And the reason why you really didn't say anything

1:22

in this conversation, because this was the one where we

1:24

told the listeners that we had split

1:27

up our interviews. Turns out that

1:29

you were able to do this one,

1:31

but to be honest, like, we're on it

1:34

with Jen Jen asked some questions.

1:36

I asked some questions, but this is all about

1:38

Anita. She takes

1:40

this and delivers statements that

1:42

gave me chills. Statements like

1:45

I can't move on without her. I

1:47

miss her so much. And the one that really stood

1:49

out to me, she said, when are they going

1:51

to hear our voices? When

1:54

are they going to hear our voices? And

1:58

I know she was speaking about

1:59

that in regards to her communication

2:02

with law enforcement and community about Pappita,

2:05

but I couldn't help think that this was something

2:07

more historic. That there was something

2:09

more historic to what she was saying

2:11

that it went beyond her daughter. that

2:13

she's tired of saying the same

2:15

things over and over and over again and hearing

2:18

the same things over and over again.

2:20

and now it's affecting her personally. And

2:22

this woman has been through so much.

2:24

Her daughter, her husband who

2:27

passed before having any closure about Pineda's

2:29

whereabouts it's really a powerful

2:31

conversation. And please,

2:33

there's a GoFundMe link in the show

2:35

notes. We're posting it on

2:38

social media. Go to the go

2:40

fund me. Anita needs a

2:42

lot of help trying to fund

2:44

things like searching on her own. legal

2:47

fees, billboards, etcetera, everything

2:49

that goes along with trying to find

2:51

your missing individual, your missing daughter.

2:53

Yeah. It's a really emotional conversation You

2:55

can't listen to this and not fail for

2:57

Anita. And as you mentioned,

2:59

Lance, yes, Jennifer Amel joins us in this conversation.

3:02

Again, we we real really only

3:04

ask a few questions each, and and that's just

3:06

you and Jennifer. I I don't ask a a single

3:09

thing. It's a moving conversation without

3:11

a doubt. And if you have any information,

3:13

please contact the Albuquerque police department

3:16

at 5052422677

3:21

Alright, everybody. Please check

3:23

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3:26

Pappita and for Anita

3:28

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3:33

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I am Peter's mom,

5:11

and Peter's my daughter. And I'd

5:13

love to know more about Peter. Like, what was she

5:15

like? What was she into? What did she,

5:18

like, doing? Okay. Pineda, like,

5:21

first of all, she she's

5:23

a friendly very

5:26

friendly. She's always giving

5:28

out, like, you know, giving a hand

5:31

when people need in help. and

5:33

she's always smiling with

5:35

a big old smile and she

5:38

lights skateboarding that was her

5:41

her hobby. and

5:43

she lights talking to people, and

5:46

her dream was to become a

5:48

teacher. And she

5:52

really, you know, just like to explore.

5:55

Yeah.

5:56

We really thank you for taking the time to

5:58

join us to talk about Pappedia today.

6:01

and we will get into the

6:04

circumstances of her disappearance, but

6:06

we'd spoken on the phone previously, and you

6:08

said that you had an

6:12

infection or swollen tooth? Or how

6:14

are you feeling? Is what I wanna know? Are you feeling okay?

6:17

I'm feeling okay. It was

6:19

down here, I guess, one of my people has

6:21

had

6:22

Nate Rook now. And

6:23

he got he did. So I

6:26

got that taken care of Monday. afternoon,

6:29

Monday morning, and I came to work

6:31

happy, and I'm doing better.

6:34

Yeah. They're gonna work on it this

6:37

this Monday. So

6:39

Yeah.

6:39

It's just a lot of things

6:41

that that I

6:44

experienced

6:45

doing when she went missing. a

6:47

lot of physical, emotionally, emotional

6:51

depression, anxiety, and

6:54

it's just hard And

6:56

I wish that, you know, she would call me

6:58

sometime. I mean, I

7:00

wish you could call me

7:02

just to say that mama, okay, I'm over

7:05

here. That's what we like to hear,

7:07

but we don't know we don't know

7:09

where she's at.

7:11

If she's still around

7:13

I don't know. And

7:14

when you say, we don't know. You're

7:17

speaking about yourself and the family. Can you give

7:19

a little bit of insight into what

7:21

the family is like? I know

7:23

at least there's a sister that

7:25

I've read articles about. Can

7:28

you what was the what was her

7:30

childhood like? What was what was the upbringing like?

7:32

Big family?

7:34

Well, yes, with one from a big

7:36

family, she has brothers and sisters,

7:38

and she has uncles and it's

7:41

on her dad's side. and

7:43

her one of her uncle was

7:46

was her favorite uncle. She

7:48

and the father's side, they always favored

7:51

her.

7:52

and most

7:55

and they missed her. We

7:57

missed her. And We

7:59

just

8:01

I don't know how it's just

8:03

that don't know how to deal

8:06

with this, but

8:07

we all been affected.

8:10

My daughters,

8:12

my two her two brothers,

8:15

We're all big deal in it different ways.

8:18

And

8:20

it it's been very tough.

8:22

It's been very hard. I mean, every

8:25

day I it's

8:27

just I think about it.

8:32

I wish I could go beyond, and

8:34

I

8:35

wish I was, you know,

8:37

I

8:39

wish I could be in Albuquerque

8:40

every day

8:42

searching for her.

8:44

But

8:44

I'm

8:45

the only one that is

8:47

a sole survivor.

8:50

Provide for family

8:52

bread on the table. And

8:55

it's just as hard and

8:57

her dad

9:00

her dad passed away without

9:02

closure. It's

9:03

gonna it's a year. It's gonna be a

9:05

year. This year,

9:07

September last year,

9:09

he passed on and

9:11

with

9:11

no closure, and

9:14

it it was hard.

9:17

Like I said, you know, it's not

9:19

at home anymore. My

9:22

life has changed in

9:25

so many ways that

9:28

they she went missing. I

9:30

try not to cry. I try

9:33

I try not to cry. But It's okay

9:35

to cry. I need it. It's really sad.

9:38

I'm so sorry for both of your losses.

9:41

Were were you married at the time to Oh,

9:44

well, we stayed together for for

9:46

thirteen years.

9:48

We have three

9:49

four children,

9:51

and they're all in a adult now.

9:54

And he had multiple

9:57

health issues and he

10:00

he passed on from that. So yeah.

10:03

Oh, wow. it's

10:04

really, really difficult. It seems

10:07

like these tragedies are just

10:09

piling up on you. Yeah.

10:13

too much to carry

10:15

heavy burden, but

10:17

I believe in my my

10:19

lord, I

10:21

resort to my heavenly father

10:23

that he

10:26

I cry onto him for help

10:29

for answers.

10:30

And, you

10:32

know, it was pretty bad,

10:34

but

10:35

day by day, I get by

10:38

with talking

10:40

to my friends, one

10:42

of the WMMYW

10:43

friend

10:45

that a task force that I met

10:48

when she came down for a rally

10:50

in Crown Point, New Mexico and

10:53

Well, actually, to them, they really

10:55

talk to me, they encourage me, and

10:57

and try to stay strong,

11:00

and we need answers That's

11:02

all I want. Any answers. Yeah.

11:04

Absolutely. I was

11:07

going to ask you about that Anita, about

11:09

MMIW. and you're

11:11

referring to missing and murdered indigenous

11:14

women. Yeah.

11:15

Right. Yes. I

11:17

I really I barely learn I

11:19

mean, I'm just now learning

11:20

from them and about the EMMYW

11:24

task force. I just

11:26

hear that there's a lot of task force

11:28

out there, but I there's

11:31

only

11:32

three people that I really,

11:34

like, engage with them, talk to them,

11:36

and they help me

11:37

out If I go

11:39

to Albuquerque to talk

11:41

to district attorney and attorney,

11:45

they

11:45

kinda, like, help me out with gas

11:47

and but not all the time. That's

11:49

what they do, and they helped me out

11:51

with two rallies, three rallies. They,

11:55

you they brought the snacks and

11:58

printing posters for us, flyers.

12:01

So, you

12:02

know, I really appreciate

12:05

them as well.

12:06

but I'm barely getting to

12:09

know

12:09

know about the program. The

12:12

way I see there's no code

12:14

for MMI development within the Navajo

12:16

Nation. That's

12:17

what I learned. But

12:19

they have this it's called

12:21

Collision

12:22

for

12:24

domestic violence. That's

12:26

the department. The lady her

12:28

name is Jolene. She's the one

12:30

that is card at the MMIW as

12:32

well. So there is AMMPR

12:36

She's the founder. Her name is Miski. She

12:40

very helpful as well that I

12:43

tend to feel too for session

12:46

this past month. So that

12:49

makes kinda like that

12:52

I'm not alone, but there's time that

12:54

I am alone

12:56

with this. And

12:58

when we met with district

13:00

attorney one year ago, and

13:03

they were all gone home about it.

13:06

Sugar coated us. And

13:08

than

13:11

nothing happened. And

13:13

then

13:14

there's

13:16

I tried calling them

13:19

few times they answered

13:21

my call. We had a a

13:23

Zoom meeting, but the last time

13:25

I they called, my son was upset

13:27

with them. So they you know,

13:30

when you guys gonna give us good answers,

13:32

when you guys gonna give us something that,

13:34

you know, hey, we interview these people

13:36

all that you guys you just going

13:38

back, like, tracing her her

13:41

past and all that is they told

13:43

me that's what they're doing first, and

13:45

it's kinda like a waste of time.

13:48

I mean, the first time they

13:50

dropped the ball. First

13:52

time, she went missing the

13:53

APD Albuquerque

13:55

police department. and

13:59

I tried to call them what they

14:01

did was they judged her, and

14:03

they

14:04

just don't know what happened

14:06

to the to the report that we gave them.

14:09

But beyond that, after

14:11

she went missing, I don't know. all

14:13

I know is when she I tried to

14:15

contact her on March twenty seventh

14:18

twenty twenty, and let

14:21

let me go back to March twenty four,

14:23

twenty twenty. That's when she was

14:25

in McCusady. We

14:27

dropped her off at her boyfriend's place.

14:30

and

14:30

it's

14:31

the last time I saw her physically.

14:34

The last the last time I saw my daughter,

14:37

she wouldn't go missing. She wouldn't just

14:39

disappear like that. No way.

14:42

Something might have happened in

14:44

that house, but it wasn't

14:46

properly investigated, you know,

14:48

because of COVID that came about

14:50

and didn't wanna they

14:53

don't wanna

14:54

contact the person.

14:56

But I

14:57

just left it that way, but I

14:59

since we started having that detective

15:04

two, three months after that, the detective

15:06

contacted me. We gave them

15:08

a lot of information.

15:11

a lot of pictures, but I understand

15:13

that that was shredded. So

15:17

we're going, like, going back and

15:19

forth gradually, which

15:21

I don't wanna do. That's

15:24

where it's at now. And right

15:26

now, we did had a district

15:28

attorney, but they don't I don't

15:30

think they wanted to carry

15:33

on the case, and they took it

15:35

to attorney

15:37

general we're gonna be having

15:40

a meeting with them at three o'clock.

15:42

So

15:43

they said there is something that they need

15:45

to tell me, but you know, hopefully,

15:48

it's not the same old thing. And

15:50

I told my attorney this, I

15:52

I can't be like,

15:54

throwing the ball here and there

15:56

that way, you know.

15:58

It's it's just, like,

15:59

a Band Aid

16:02

no band aid that you feel and

16:04

you oh, it looks fine, you know,

16:06

just close it back up. I

16:08

don't know. It's it's difficult.

16:11

I

16:11

hate on getting smarter with this

16:13

and the

16:16

word that I really need someone to

16:18

help

16:18

me to do, you know,

16:20

to put something, you know, put it in

16:23

writing and

16:26

submit it to ATV.

16:28

like I said, I really

16:31

don't wanna do this. That's not

16:33

gonna bring my daughter home.

16:36

she might be set up

16:38

with somebody being held against

16:40

her will. I

16:41

don't know. there's

16:43

a lot of things that go through

16:45

my thoughts, go through my mind every

16:47

day. I check my

16:49

email, I check my text messages.

16:52

I check my messenger. I

16:54

check our phone voicemail. Nothing

16:56

every day I get home. every

16:58

morning, I wake up, like, three, four o'clock

17:01

in the morning. I looked at there's nothing.

17:03

It just makes me cry. I cry

17:05

and I pray, but like I said,

17:08

I have to stay strong

17:10

because I, you know, I want her

17:13

home.

17:15

There's

17:15

a lot of stories that are coming two

17:17

stories are coming in that she's somewhere

17:20

out in California, New

17:22

York, but I don't

17:24

know. I don't know how to go about it.

17:26

There's people out. There's a,

17:28

you know, we can send pictures. We can

17:30

eat this. And It's it's

17:32

just it's just like, you

17:34

know, if it's human trafficking,

17:38

I

17:38

don't think nobody's gonna trace

17:40

her down. the people that's doing

17:42

that, I don't think nobody is gonna

17:45

that's why I really don't wanna show my

17:47

face anymore. my

17:49

identity wants I want my identity

17:51

to be private, but there is

17:54

some people that made a stink out of

17:56

the episode. an Navajo

17:58

nightmare, and

17:59

I heard it back. And

18:02

it it just made me mad because

18:06

if the family,

18:08

his side of her her boyfriend's

18:10

family, loved her.

18:12

If the boyfriend cared for him,

18:15

for her, he would be

18:17

out here helping me. Maybe

18:19

with gas money and maybe, you

18:21

know, they live in Albuquerque, they would

18:23

say, hey, you wanna you need

18:25

help. We can go this way that way

18:28

that you guys need flyers. We

18:30

can run around with that. But ever

18:32

since she

18:33

is split. Nothing.

18:36

But I hear two stories of

18:38

mother III

18:41

don't know. She left early in the

18:43

morning after this guy, home,

18:45

this guy. And this home, this

18:47

guy is very he didn't

18:50

you know, he's not a good looking man.

18:52

How would my daughter

18:55

just

18:55

decided to go after him?

18:58

that

18:59

she said, she went

19:01

to Laramy Gaye, however,

19:04

he's deceased. left

19:06

early in the morning. Papita left

19:09

about three, four minutes after Larry

19:11

Miller. How did how was she

19:13

know she went

19:15

after him? And

19:16

how does she know the

19:18

kind of clothing she was wearing when

19:21

she left? After a

19:23

while, I talked to the boyfriend, believe

19:25

it was two days. I said, where

19:27

is my daughter? Nicholas, please

19:29

tell me where did you put my daughter. What

19:31

did you do with my daughter? was

19:34

all we went to Circle k

19:36

with my dad, and she was still at

19:38

home. So and then I said,

19:40

what time was that? He was just about maybe

19:43

around ten and eleven. When we

19:45

got back, she wasn't there.

19:48

Like,

19:48

well, really, so why does she leave?

19:51

She's here.

19:52

Nicholas said the boyfriend said,

19:55

I

19:56

don't know. Maybe she got tired of me.

19:59

drinking and fighting

19:59

with her. So,

20:01

okay. Well, please, can you

20:03

help us go? Try to

20:05

search for her. Go out there because

20:07

I'm way over here. but

20:09

there's nothing. There's

20:10

two stories.

20:12

We tried to tell this to detective

20:15

the first time that I heard this.

20:18

they

20:18

won't believe, but they will live in their

20:20

stories.

20:22

I

20:22

don't know. They say, oh, we haven't

20:25

interview the family and how

20:27

would they know that oh, Pappido wasn't

20:30

Niggas didn't do anything with with

20:32

their daughter.

20:34

I don't know. That's where I said, what the

20:37

heck is going on here? That's when

20:39

I just stopped. I said, we're just gonna do

20:41

this on our own. We're gonna do another rally.

20:43

We're gonna run with this. We're gonna run

20:45

with flyers. And Albert Crickley talked to

20:47

people as many people as we want.

20:51

but there's nothing. There's no no

20:54

side of her in Albuquerque. We

20:56

post fires every business

20:59

offices and We

21:00

talked to homeless people. There's some of them.

21:03

They don't know her a few. They said, oh,

21:05

the last time

21:05

we saw it was March twenty seventh with

21:07

the boyfriend.

21:08

How far away was

21:11

Pappita's home from

21:13

her boyfriend's house?

21:15

They live on South Valley.

21:17

and the Peter,

21:20

we live in New Mexico.

21:23

It's about a hundred ninety four miles.

21:25

Oh, okay. So pretty far. yeah,

21:27

it's pretty far and it's pretty

21:29

far for me to go up there every day,

21:32

every weekend because, you

21:34

know, I have very limited but

21:36

we my my income doesn't meet

21:38

our needs. So I have

21:40

to pay for my home, my vehicle insurance,

21:43

food on the table. and

21:45

we used to go every week because I

21:47

told myself I wanna find her.

21:50

So with some of those

21:52

times that we spend a night at gas stations

21:56

nearby where he lived, but

21:58

there's none.

21:59

There's nobody. I slept. My son

22:02

stayed up.

22:03

he slept and I stayed up

22:07

and

22:07

we had to watch those truckers and

22:09

there's nothing else side up there.

22:12

we we've done a lot of stuff that, you know,

22:16

that I didn't know, I don't but

22:19

it mentioned to to nobody because

22:21

they're not happiness. So

22:24

I did told the detective that, you know,

22:26

I'm pretty upset. I'm pretty frustrated.

22:28

I don't even know I don't think

22:30

you guys have been looking out and talking

22:32

to people in. And

22:34

this we're gonna go backtrack

22:36

her first before we move

22:38

on.

22:39

I said two years, I mean,

22:43

two years and nine months is a

22:45

lot.

22:46

Too many.

22:48

Nothing's been done.

22:51

Maybe

22:51

they're working on it, but I don't

22:53

know. Yeah.

22:54

They're just not communicating to you.

22:56

I mean No communication at

22:58

all. I mean, there's nothing. I mean, they

23:00

say, oh, I'm a lawyer. I can

23:02

do this. No. That's the

23:04

s to me.

23:07

I just say maybe

23:08

she's a native american. That's why

23:11

she's, you know,

23:13

And maybe it's because there's no

23:15

leave no trace of her.

23:17

But

23:17

it would have done is, you know, contact

23:20

the family right away. he started

23:22

the families start including them.

23:24

I

23:24

mean, you would see if a person is lying.

23:27

You

23:27

would tell the perfect the person is

23:29

not lying.

23:32

And I

23:33

don't know. I

23:35

just don't know what to say, and

23:38

it's just, you know, where is that?

23:40

it's

23:42

a sad, frustrating. I deal

23:44

with this every

23:45

every day. I mean,

23:48

sometimes the food don't taste

23:50

right. Things

23:52

that I used to do I'm

23:54

not interested of doing.

23:57

I

23:57

just, you

23:59

know, just go

23:59

to work and

24:02

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24:02

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24:04

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25:22

You'd mentioned her boyfriend, Nicholas,

25:24

that's Nicholas Kay, Do you

25:26

have any insight as to what their relationship

25:28

was like? And was he also navaho?

25:31

He's

25:31

a native american. Personally,

25:33

I don't really know the family.

25:36

and didn't they met in two

25:38

thousand eighteen. And

25:40

he always appears to her

25:43

and they spent they spent some

25:45

time with us

25:46

a year ago

25:48

at at our place for Thanksgiving

25:51

and Christmas. And

25:52

that's

25:53

where I've seen, that's where I heard,

25:56

that's where I've seen witnesses

25:59

and hitting

25:59

her, yelling

26:01

at her, she came

26:02

home with bruises,

26:05

busted

26:05

lips, legal

26:07

bruise on the head. And

26:09

at one night, she called

26:11

and he was really beating her.

26:13

in the background, he would say f word,

26:15

bitch, and all that. And she was

26:18

she was trying to scream, mom, we're

26:20

gonna still stop.

26:23

and

26:24

we recorded that,

26:26

but

26:26

I

26:27

think when they when they came

26:29

back, go to

26:31

holidays in November,

26:32

I think she deleted it. That would

26:34

have been a good evidence, but what

26:37

we're trying to tell them is it there's

26:39

there's no evidence.

26:42

So that's where it's

26:45

at now. And to me,

26:48

he's running. He's

26:50

getting away with us.

26:52

But

26:53

somebody made a mistake about it. But

26:55

you

26:56

know,

26:58

how

26:58

would that person know as well?

27:00

He

27:01

doesn't know that person.

27:04

So like

27:05

I said, that even on

27:07

March twenty fourth when we dropped our office

27:10

between five forty PM, he

27:13

was drunk. And I told

27:15

her, I said, please be careful, sweetie.

27:17

Just come back. Just what are you gonna

27:20

do here? There's nothing It

27:22

might hurt you pretty bad. I

27:24

want her couple of months,

27:26

but

27:27

she still went back.

27:30

that

27:30

I told him right

27:32

there too that night when I dropped her office.

27:34

It's me.

27:35

Please be careful that he was when

27:37

he It's my I I called

27:39

my friend. I never met her friends.

27:43

And, I

27:44

mean, you don't know what happens

27:47

in

27:47

that and I don't know.

27:49

You don't

27:49

know what happens if person is drunk.

27:51

the

27:53

person's on on high on something.

27:55

So

27:58

the

28:00

I

28:00

know my daughter was a downtown

28:02

drop.

28:05

I

28:05

know she smoked marijuana. but

28:07

she will never go missing like this.

28:12

She's been out there going to school and stuff,

28:14

but she never went missing. original

28:17

reviews like that.

28:20

It's got to be something.

28:22

It's

28:24

just hard. I mean, it's just

28:27

you know,

28:28

when are they gonna hear

28:31

our voice? when are they

28:33

gonna hear us that they

28:36

don't believe us. They

28:37

don't care. I mean, they

28:40

just think that, oh, well,

28:44

We

28:44

have to

28:45

get actual evidence.

28:47

I'm not sure if you know the answer to this

28:50

question, but do you know if

28:52

the police suspect Nick's

28:54

involvement

28:56

in Pineda's disappearance? I

28:58

did say that, you know, can you

29:00

please interview him? And

29:02

because of his word that he didn't

29:04

do anything,

29:05

she just left on her own and

29:08

that's what they're

29:10

saying. I

29:11

don't think they they know that he's a

29:13

suspect. But

29:16

there's still a lot I just heard there's

29:18

a lot of information still coming in

29:20

from different areas from I don't know who,

29:22

but

29:22

So COVID actually

29:25

was a huge hurdle

29:28

for everybody involved. Yes.

29:32

Because when when we reported,

29:35

there was if we can't

29:37

go to his house because of this thing going

29:39

on, and we couldn't go anywhere

29:41

because we had a shutdown.

29:44

Our reservation

29:46

was a shutdown. every

29:48

weekend. We can't get out town. We

29:50

can't get out of that reservation.

29:53

And but many times,

29:55

we just knocked off. We came back early,

29:57

but to search an Albuquerque. I

30:00

always had my flyer's information on

30:02

her so. And

30:03

now when her travel police knew and she's

30:06

already was in the system. But the now who

30:08

are travel police won't get involved because

30:10

she was missing an outbreak. Did they have

30:12

jurisdiction problem?

30:15

So there was really nothing baked

30:17

in until I

30:20

just kept in contact with the first

30:21

take the he retired in May

30:23

of twenty, I

30:25

believe, was twenty twenty. And

30:28

there's a new one that they gave us

30:31

And that's

30:33

when we went up there, he introduced him.

30:36

He introduced us to the new detective.

30:39

and he's kinda like an elderly, older,

30:41

but in middle age. So

30:45

I already knew, you know, in the back of my

30:47

head. This

30:48

thing is not gonna work.

30:51

We're

30:51

just retelling our story, which

30:53

I don't wanna do it no more.

30:55

because

30:55

when

30:56

I do that, it

30:58

takes me a

31:00

couple of weeks to get back into my

31:02

normal life at my normal self.

31:06

it it is hard. They don't see it,

31:08

but I wish they didn't track

31:10

the stuff that, you know,

31:13

that we gave them. But

31:15

I, like I said, I can't

31:17

go beyond my story. I just

31:19

know what I draw

31:22

her off. She went missing and

31:24

tried to contact her because she

31:26

used to text me.

31:29

And call me and say, hi, mom. What

31:31

are you doing? I'll

31:33

be coming back this week and you

31:35

need anything. Is

31:37

my brother okay?

31:38

Is everything okay? She was the

31:40

only one that used to email text me?

31:42

And even though she's high

31:45

or something like, you know,

31:47

oh, I just well, you know, I'm fine.

31:49

You know,

31:51

just

31:53

normal

31:53

data, you know, normal text

31:55

messages. call that makes

31:57

me feel good that

31:58

she's fine and, yeah,

31:59

you know, we're doing good, but

32:02

it she kinda I started

32:04

learning when worried about her when

32:07

she started getting confused by him.

32:09

to all these things,

32:11

the police would say, okay. Let's really

32:14

do this to ask corner

32:16

handle question this. interview the

32:18

family one by one, but it's not

32:20

happening. Maybe

32:22

because they're afraid that they didn't

32:24

get sued APD. like I said,

32:26

they dropped the phone. They dropped the phone. There's

32:28

nothing.

32:29

It's too late.

32:32

And so that's why I just wanted

32:34

to alone. However,

32:37

I can do let

32:39

maybe just keep doing awareness,

32:42

close

32:42

in her flyer, and even

32:45

Coming

32:45

up with a rally,

32:47

it's not too much,

32:50

but

32:50

I need somebody to be beside

32:52

me to coordinate while I'm

32:54

at work or like, it's it's heavy

32:56

work.

32:57

Really, really heavy work even though it's just

32:59

a rally walk. that it

33:01

do properly because of the safety

33:03

and the highways

33:05

and, you know,

33:07

the connect

33:08

with many people.

33:12

He

33:12

actually didn't know the people that,

33:14

you know Right.

33:17

And

33:19

-- Yeah. -- you mentioned

33:21

that it was difficult to keep telling the

33:23

same story over and over again and not

33:26

getting any results. I

33:28

just wanna thank you so much for

33:30

talking to us about this. I

33:33

know it's not easy. But

33:37

hopefully, if you keep doing media

33:39

media and keep getting computer's name

33:41

out there, then people will make

33:43

law

33:43

enforcement care and

33:45

and keep working on a case.

33:47

Okay.

33:49

In terms of

33:52

funding to keep searching, do

33:54

you guys have a, like, a go fund to

33:56

me?

33:57

Well, I have a go fund account.

33:58

Yes. But

34:01

that helps, like, twenty

34:03

dollars a day to day.

34:05

And

34:07

Monday, we went to Albuquerque visit

34:10

a time.

34:11

Not that kinda help.

34:14

So

34:16

yeah. Well, if you don't mind, we'd

34:19

love to share a

34:21

link to your go fund

34:22

me when we put this episode

34:24

out. Okay. You

34:26

know, Okay.

34:27

Great.

34:28

Yeah. People do care and you're not

34:30

alone. Yeah.

34:31

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37:24

Is there anything else that we didn't ask

37:26

you that you would like to say?

37:31

a I

37:33

think

37:33

I have Well,

37:35

I'll just keep updating with you

37:37

guys. Today, we're having a

37:39

meeting at three o'clock with the shift. Turn

37:41

it. I mean, I turn it to him and see what

37:43

they come up with. wanna

37:45

let you guys know and update.

37:47

Maybe if you guys can keep in contact

37:49

or any updates,

37:50

we can continue doing this

37:53

because I'm really upset.

37:55

And I'm not trying to get back

37:57

at the family, the boyfriend's side.

37:59

It's just that, you know, I want them to

38:02

know

38:02

we need help with

38:04

searching. We just, you

38:06

know, really

38:08

just checking the wrong means, hey,

38:10

miss Kim. How are you doing? And

38:13

we haven't seen her what you

38:15

need you need you need more

38:17

flyers to be printout. I

38:19

mean, I don't know if

38:21

they're ever gonna happen,

38:23

but I'm not mad at the family

38:25

because,

38:25

you know, I I

38:28

can't be mad at anyone.

38:30

I

38:30

did, but I you know,

38:32

please forgive me,

38:34

but I'm not mad at them.

38:36

you

38:37

know, they're human being as well.

38:39

My daughter is a person as well.

38:41

And like I said, just that really

38:44

upsets

38:44

me is if he loved her.

38:47

he wouldn't have hurt her. He wouldn't have done

38:49

a lot of damage

38:50

to her. He

38:51

would have been not there. Every

38:54

every day when

38:55

she first went missing, he would have did

38:57

a report. But after I did,

38:59

he did,

39:00

I guess. And

39:01

that's when the story

39:04

is kinda, like,

39:06

that, you

39:08

know, she left with that guy.

39:10

And but I talked to Nick

39:12

myself

39:13

that she left in close to by

39:15

between ten and eleven. So

39:17

there is two stories, and I tried

39:19

to mention that to detective I

39:22

don't know if he

39:22

has it written down. I don't know.

39:24

There's

39:25

a lot of, like you said, miscommunication.

39:29

So I'm not mad at the

39:31

family, the boyfriend's family,

39:33

and maybe if I did,

39:35

I said something, forgive me. That's

39:39

the only way, you know, I'll be happy and

39:42

I'll be, you know, god's

39:45

forgiven god. and

39:47

I believe him that he's gonna

39:50

find

39:50

my daughter's sea. I

39:52

really miss her.

39:57

Everything. The

39:59

holidays.

40:00

where

40:02

My birthday is coming up again.

40:05

There's no card from her.

40:07

There's no card.

40:10

I mean,

40:11

my daughter is a person.

40:14

Why would nobody hate? No.

40:16

How would anybody hurt my daughter?

40:20

Maybe she got violent, they got

40:22

quiet, but how, you know

40:25

always tell my boys that. Please

40:27

tell me how old girls. You

40:30

still you don't tell them that look at

40:32

your sister. You're

40:34

not supposed to have the mister Violet?

40:38

They have a family. They have loved ones.

40:41

They care about them. That's what we do.

40:44

Yes. At first time, we were

40:46

so angry. But

40:51

that I

40:53

just pull myself one day. This is

40:55

eating me up. I better, you

40:57

know, just go

40:58

just move on, but I can't

41:00

move on without her.

41:03

especially when I go to Albuquerque,

41:05

it's just that we're leaving into

41:08

but I just want her back leaving

41:10

answers. or justice.

41:15

She could do more, you know. I wish

41:18

the APD do more like

41:20

question

41:23

to family. That's all we

41:24

want is to have the question

41:26

to family that's when

41:29

I'm

41:29

in a step forward more

41:31

more more forward with more

41:34

with a lot of stuff that I need to

41:36

do.

41:37

And

41:40

please, Capita,

41:41

anybody knows anybody that

41:44

knew her, anybody stays

41:46

saying something, say something,

41:49

please.

41:50

I missed her so much.

41:55

How would

41:56

how would this sleep? How would these

41:58

sleep? How would he? Cool.

42:02

on his day

42:04

the

42:07

I'm sorry. Lost in words.

42:12

But I just need answers. Please need

42:14

come just tell me that where she's

42:16

at, what happened to her.

42:18

I'm not mad at you. I'm not

42:20

mad at your family.

42:22

I

42:23

just need answers. I need answers.

42:26

she loo she was she

42:28

loo

42:29

forgot to tell you that

42:32

Pito loathed her niece's

42:35

They're grown up, they're getting tall,

42:38

and they wish her.

42:41

She's always bringing them some

42:43

jackets for winter. For

42:46

the two winter stand. They

42:48

didn't bring her jackets. coloring

42:51

book. Anything

42:54

she needs to call me well, please buy

42:56

that some buy that some chips or soda

42:58

or something.

43:00

I'll ask them what's okay. I'll

43:02

give you the money.

43:04

My daughter wasn't that bigger.

43:07

She didn't ask for money.

43:10

two strong woman.

43:13

It's

43:14

not sugar coated. It's blue.

43:17

I knew my baby.

43:19

You know her?

43:21

That's

43:24

somehow shit.

43:29

Somehow she

43:30

lived with she ended up

43:32

with a wrong person.

43:36

We use my phone.

43:37

and

43:41

I love my baby. I just wear

43:43

her home.

43:45

And

43:46

holidays, like

43:47

I said, it's coming up. It's tours, holidays

43:49

anymore the last time we ate where it was

43:52

exceeded two years ago. Before

43:54

she went missing in March,

43:59

November and December

43:59

as well. We

44:02

had Christmas and Thanksgiving.

44:06

Hi.

44:09

Yeah. Yeah.

44:10

With the holidays coming up. I

44:13

just wanna say, Anita, it's not your fault.

44:16

I know families are complicated and stuff,

44:18

but this is not your fault at all.

44:22

Thank you. And

44:24

you you also said that Pineda

44:27

was a strong woman, and it's pretty clear

44:29

that she gets that from you. because

44:31

that's how you raised her. And,

44:34

yeah, you you just it's

44:36

so difficult. You just have to stay strong

44:38

and you will get you will get through

44:40

it. And, you know, we are here for

44:42

you. So anything you need, you know,

44:44

we're now we're a phone call

44:46

away. Yeah.

44:47

She was she was very smart.

44:50

She

44:51

took her dad's side.

44:53

She had four eight's. four

44:56

point zero in college,

44:59

in school, she was very smart.

45:01

The teacher really relied on

45:03

her.

45:06

A teacher used to say

45:08

Pepila would be the teacher Pepita dealership.

45:11

she she

45:13

was telling us when they she was

45:15

helping students there.

45:18

She

45:19

my teacher

45:20

got upset, mom. But if she say,

45:23

you wanna beat the teacher, beat her. She

45:26

was giving answers to the students, I guess.

45:30

That's a that that's

45:33

a good story. Mhmm. She

45:35

was I mean, she was, I she was feet bored

45:37

and she

45:38

She had a lot of guys'

45:40

friends and, you

45:42

know, that's where she was at. And

45:47

she decorates home. I mean,

45:49

she loves cleaning, especially

45:51

the

45:52

kitchen. I come home. The kitchen will be

45:54

really decorated.

45:54

Things she rearranged,

45:57

but, you know, that's fine with me.

46:00

So she didn't I'm

46:03

sorry that I didn't tell you that she designs

46:05

her own clothes. That's

46:08

how she was really? She loves makeup.

46:10

Yeah. She loves taking photos of herself.

46:13

you

46:13

know, she was that person.

46:17

And

46:18

like I said, her her Neeses.

46:20

This is them. They're grown.

46:22

That one is gonna be a one is

46:24

a junior. And

46:26

then one of them is this she's

46:29

sort of prayed about her once she's there.

46:31

She's pregnant. I mean,

46:33

she loved them.

46:35

She

46:36

I've become home to pick them

46:38

up and spend a day with them and,

46:41

yeah, they

46:42

missed her a lot.

46:45

She was loved by her nieces

46:47

and her sisters.

46:50

She likes to joke around, you know, always

46:52

laugh, I would know

46:54

she would I would know she would be lying.

46:57

Was y'all a mama and yeah.

47:00

that

47:01

I missed that. Something with her as well.

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