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back to Missing. I am Tim here today with Lance.

1:19

Lance, how are you today? I'm

1:21

doing fantastic today, Tim. I hope everybody out

1:24

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1:26

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1:32

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1:34

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1:38

excited to introduce our conversation

1:41

that we have on this

1:43

episode. We're speaking with Dornette

1:45

Mullings, whose brother,

1:47

Calvin Berry, died

1:50

on March 10th, 2021. And

1:53

there's some suspicion here with his

1:55

death, and he was

1:57

a beloved male carrier in... Port

2:00

St. Lucie, Florida. And it's a

2:02

suspicious death in that Dornette

2:06

is not really satisfied with the

2:08

investigation as it was and she

2:10

has done a ton of work

2:12

on this herself and in

2:15

addition to attending CrimeCon

2:17

and that's where we met her and

2:19

she was passing out flyers and was

2:21

asking for help and coverage and when

2:25

that happens Lance as you know,

2:27

it kind of tugs on our

2:29

heartstrings and we love to help Folks

2:32

who are in that position and so that's

2:34

why we're having Dornette on today Yeah, and

2:36

you know when somebody has gone through the

2:38

effort to Research

2:40

CrimeCon understand the importance of it

2:43

Especially when you have someone in your

2:45

family that has met their

2:47

end or has disappeared with tragic

2:50

circumstances You attend CrimeCon

2:52

you talk to the people who are there

2:54

who can help and she really worked podcast

2:56

row She was talking to everybody there. She

2:58

came up to us have

3:00

the flyer about her brother and She

3:04

like you said put a lot of work

3:06

into everything Regarding

3:09

his case and she forwarded

3:11

us a lot of documents and reading

3:14

the documents Especially a police

3:16

report that was very extensive Entering

3:19

into this conversation I had the

3:21

concern that this was a family member who

3:23

might have been letting their emotions dictate their

3:26

behavior Which is totally

3:28

understandable. However about five

3:30

minutes into the conversation I realized

3:32

that was not the case Dornette

3:34

is an extremely well researched individual

3:37

Dedicates herself to finding out what happened to

3:39

her brother because there are so many things

3:41

that Don't make

3:44

sense with his death and she's pointing

3:46

them out and simply saying I need

3:48

answers for this It's not

3:50

saying there's a conspiracy this need answers. It

3:52

doesn't have an answer. It doesn't make sense

3:55

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3:57

really whatever we can do to raise

4:01

this profile, raise her voice, shine a brighter

4:03

light, whatever cliche you want to put on

4:05

it, we're going to do. So definitely

4:07

check this out. Definitely check out the

4:10

story of Dornette Mullins and

4:12

her brother. Absolutely. And you can go to

4:14

Justice4, and that's the number

4:17

for calvin.com for

4:19

some more information. Dornette is also on

4:21

X and Facebook.

4:23

There's a Facebook group, Calvin Berry.

4:26

And again, Dornette is a twin.

4:29

They're twins, Dornette and Calvin. So

4:31

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4:33

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today? I'm doing great. Thank

7:13

you. Thanks for having me on your show. Yeah,

7:15

absolutely. And thank you for approaching

7:18

us at CrimeCon and providing us

7:20

with the information for your twin

7:22

brother, which is unfortunately the reason

7:25

why we're speaking today. Can

7:28

you introduce yourself for the audience so they

7:30

get some background on you? Sure. And

7:32

I'm happy that I had met with

7:35

you at CrimeCon. Of course, I came

7:37

to CrimeCon because of the situation I'm

7:39

in. So that's my,

7:41

and I also live in South Florida.

7:43

So CrimeCon was just up the road

7:45

from me. It made sense for me

7:47

with my story to come there to

7:50

see who I can, you know, get

7:52

some help from. My brother and I

7:54

are twins. We

7:57

were born in England and then we were...

8:00

migrated to Jamaica when we were young

8:03

kids. So we grew up

8:05

our elementary and

8:07

high school years in Jamaica

8:10

and as soon as we

8:12

completed that education we were

8:15

moved to Florida, South Florida, because

8:17

my mother at the time was

8:19

living in South Florida and

8:21

so we were with our

8:23

father in Jamaica and she

8:26

said it's time for you to

8:28

come and further your education here

8:30

in the US. So

8:32

we were very excited and

8:36

happy for the opportunity to you know

8:38

just migrate and to advance

8:40

our education and of course

8:42

our career. So we

8:44

were happy to move to South

8:47

Florida and we stayed we

8:49

weren't always in South Florida. My brother

8:51

was very very religious.

8:57

He joined a local Jamaican

9:00

church and that was his world.

9:02

He loved the church. He

9:05

put a lot of his

9:08

free time you know work church work

9:10

church and at some

9:12

stage he met

9:14

this person at

9:16

the church and soon

9:19

after they decided to get married. My

9:22

mother and you know you have to go back

9:25

looking back at older folks

9:27

when they when they have

9:29

some kind of inclination about something

9:31

you really should listen but of course at

9:33

that time we don't listen but

9:36

she was totally against him

9:39

getting married at that time mostly

9:41

because this person was very new

9:43

to the church it was within months and

9:47

after meeting her he announced that

9:49

he was getting married. But you

9:51

know we we accepted it we

9:54

prepared for a wedding we had a very nice

9:56

wedding and we accepted it. Soon

9:59

after the wedding which I

10:01

want to say maybe about a month

10:03

after the wedding. The wedding was I

10:05

believe in 1983 if I'm not

10:07

mistaken. About a month after another

10:09

person from the church, another

10:12

young lady from the church announced that she

10:14

was six months pregnant and that it was

10:17

the father was my brother was

10:19

the father. It was

10:22

devastating. It was devastating and of course

10:24

it was devastating for a young wife

10:26

as well. But

10:29

they worked through it. They made their

10:32

amends and they

10:35

continued their marriage and they

10:38

end up having three children. So there

10:40

is the firstborn child which is

10:42

not with his wife. It's a

10:44

boy. His name is Michael and

10:47

then they went on to have three children,

10:51

all girls. The

10:54

middle child is

10:56

very ill, disabled. So

10:59

the other two children, the younger and

11:01

the older adults, you

11:04

know, they erased them. They

11:06

raised those two girls until

11:09

they became adults. And

11:12

so you know you're looking forward

11:14

to know the children are gone and

11:17

you're going to retire

11:20

or you know look at

11:22

some other activity

11:25

to enjoy

11:28

at this age

11:30

because we were still very young and

11:32

then all of

11:34

a sudden out of nowhere this

11:37

happened totally, totally

11:40

completely through me off guard. I had

11:42

no idea, no inclination of any issues,

11:44

any problems. So I'm still struggling.

11:47

I'm still trying to

11:49

understand there is a lot

11:52

that occurred that is very

11:54

uneasy and I

11:56

will not accept until it

11:58

makes sense. I mean, it has

12:01

to make some kind of plausible

12:03

sense to me,

12:05

to my family, to the public

12:08

at large and to the law

12:10

enforcement involved in this.

12:13

So I will not rest and I

12:15

will not stop until we get some kind

12:17

of explanation

12:20

to the many questions

12:22

that we've been asking. And

12:24

so far, we're still waiting. What

12:27

was your brother Calvin like? First of

12:29

all, I must tell you, he was employed at the US Postal

12:32

Service. He was a mail carrier.

12:34

He was a mail carrier for

12:36

about 30 years, half of which

12:38

was in South Florida in Miami.

12:40

And then he moved from Miami to

12:43

Stewart. Well, he got

12:46

transferred to Stewart and

12:49

lived in a neighboring city called

12:51

Port St. Louis in Florida. He

12:54

was the embodiment of friendship. He

12:56

loved people. I always

12:58

say to him, you never met a stranger because

13:02

he's always, even if they don't speak

13:04

the language, he meets someone, they're his

13:06

friend. He was the kind of person

13:08

that loved to be around people. He

13:11

was anxious to be involved with people.

13:13

That was him. Everybody who

13:16

knew him had a

13:18

lasting impact on them. I

13:20

have an interesting question about,

13:24

you said Michael is the

13:26

son of the first born.

13:28

Yes. Right. The

13:30

first born. And that was the other woman from the church. Yes. Okay.

13:34

But they continue to stay together. The

13:37

wife, the marriage. Yes.

13:40

Oh yes. Yes. And do

13:42

you think that that was because they realized that

13:44

their union was so strong or was

13:46

it maybe the perception that

13:48

they shouldn't separate because

13:50

of this? I don't think it's because the

13:52

union was strong. I think it's purely religious.

13:54

You know, you're a Christian, you

13:57

don't get divorced, you work through

13:59

the issues. You try to make

14:02

amends and forgive and forget. That's

14:04

exactly what I thought it was. Yeah, that's

14:07

what I was taking it as well, is

14:09

that it went sort of beyond their relationship

14:11

and more like you said, that was more

14:13

deeply rooted in their beliefs. Correct. Gotcha.

14:17

Correct. Also, the mail carrier for 30

14:19

years is a statement on the

14:21

commitment to that occupation. I don't know anyone.

14:23

I was thinking that when I read the

14:25

information and then you said it, I was

14:27

thinking about it. Do I know

14:29

anyone who's held a job for 30 years and

14:31

I really don't? That's like incredibly impressive. It

14:34

is impressive and I mean, you

14:36

know, it's not an easy job. You

14:39

know, the rain, the sun, the walking,

14:42

but what he

14:45

enjoyed most was the

14:47

fact that he met so many people.

14:49

He was a people person. So

14:52

he would be talking, talking, talking

14:54

with everyone. And

14:56

some of the videos of after

14:58

this tragedy happened, you can hear

15:01

the people from his route

15:03

where he delivered that, you know, he was

15:05

always coming in and talking and they

15:08

were like close friends because

15:11

his route allowed him to meet and

15:13

greet and talk with people. And

15:15

that's what he loved. And how was his

15:18

physical health with that kind of

15:20

job? Well, as far as

15:22

I knew, he was fine. I had,

15:24

I saw no, no problems. I saw

15:26

no indication that there was anything

15:28

physical or mental wrong

15:31

with him. I saw nothing. He

15:34

never expressed anything to

15:36

me that he had any problems.

15:39

But he had been experiencing health

15:41

problems? I'm not aware of

15:44

it. I'm not aware of it. And

15:46

I can also tell you that

15:48

I've seen, well, from

15:51

the police report because I'm from his

15:54

immediate family also, where they're talking

15:56

about things that nobody knew about,

15:58

nobody heard about. And

16:00

of course, he's not here now to tell

16:03

us. So where did that come from? We

16:05

have no idea. And

16:07

these things that no one knew about, you're speaking

16:09

of the maybe indications

16:11

or the flags that

16:14

he might be suffering the beginning stages of

16:17

dementia or Alzheimer's, or was it more of

16:19

the heart condition? Well, he did have

16:21

a dissivulator implanted.

16:25

And he was so excited to get that

16:27

dissivulator. It was like a kid with

16:29

a new toy. And

16:31

I said to him, you seem

16:33

more so excited to have this

16:35

device implanted that you really needed it.

16:38

But apparently, there was some

16:41

concern about his heart

16:43

that was a precautionary

16:45

measure. The dissivulator was

16:47

precautionary. And since it was implanted,

16:50

there was no real

16:52

indication of anything major.

16:54

I don't think it even delivered

16:56

anything to him to keep his heart

16:58

going. I have not seen

17:00

any report that there was an

17:03

actual shock to continue his heart.

17:06

And what was the moment that

17:08

happened where it was decided that

17:10

he needed the dissivulator? I

17:12

think I'm not sure of the

17:14

details, but I'd heard that he

17:17

was taken to the emergency room

17:19

because he had some heart episode.

17:25

And it was determined

17:27

from the visit that he

17:29

should look into getting

17:32

the device. And at that time, I

17:34

said to him, you really should get a second

17:36

opinion because I don't think you really need that.

17:39

And he was really excited, though, and

17:41

wanted it. And

17:44

how old was he at that point? How many years

17:46

ago, I guess, was that? That

17:48

would have been 50, maybe

17:52

five, 20, 19, so 56. Okay,

18:00

and what medication was he

18:03

on due to that? As

18:05

far as I knew, it was really just

18:08

the medication relating

18:11

to him having the

18:13

decibilator. I don't know of

18:15

any other medication. I

18:17

knew nothing about him having any issues

18:20

at all. To

18:22

be a mail carrier, to go

18:24

out and walk the streets

18:26

for eight hours delivering mail, you

18:29

have to be accurate. You

18:31

have to be aware and driving

18:35

back and forth. So

18:37

I am not aware of any serious

18:39

problems, any problems along with him. I

18:42

was not aware of anything. It's

18:44

kind of interesting to me that the

18:46

post office themselves wouldn't have put him

18:49

on a different, I

18:52

guess, job placement.

18:54

Correct. Like you could work in the post

18:56

office and not walk. You

18:58

could be somebody who worked inside the building

19:01

and maybe sorted the mail or worked with

19:03

customers. Correct. Had he ever thought

19:05

of that? Like if their management knew that he had

19:07

that in place with his heart, had a serious heart

19:09

issue, they would take him off the

19:11

street? I don't think

19:13

the decibilator impacted his

19:16

job performance at all. So

19:18

I don't think it was necessary. I

19:21

don't think it impacted him at all. So

19:25

he was able to continue his full

19:28

work schedule. Yeah, I think the reason why

19:30

I brought that up is because if it

19:34

did impact him, if he did have this heart issue, I would

19:36

think after going

19:38

on 30 years, you

19:41

have a relationship with your employers where they

19:43

would say, yeah. And

19:45

they would probably say, hey, you have this heart condition,

19:47

we don't want anything bad happening to you. A

19:51

hot day in Florida, you're walking, you can't, you're

19:53

dehydrated, something might happen so we're going to put

19:55

you behind the desk here. And if they didn't

19:57

say that to him, I would be

19:59

surprised. They didn't and I don't think

20:01

he needed it and I don't think if he himself

20:04

wanted it. He wanted to

20:06

be out there. That's what he

20:08

loved. Now the situation about the

20:10

dementia, I have no idea where

20:12

that came from. It seemed to me that

20:14

it was a narrative

20:18

that was plotted to

20:21

throw things off from

20:25

what occurred. I mean personally,

20:27

I think it was

20:29

a part of the plan. Okay so

20:31

you never saw any effects of dementia

20:33

in Calvin? I never saw it

20:36

and I have now

20:38

since seen his medical records and

20:40

nothing in his medical records indicates

20:43

anything about dementia. Nothing. Wow okay

20:45

so nothing about dementia. He never

20:48

saw a doctor about it?

20:51

Nothing. The only place I heard

20:53

dementia was from his wife and

20:56

daughters. Okay.

20:58

The two adult daughters. And

21:00

they were they were both living with him right?

21:03

Actually no well they until they were adults. One

21:05

daughter, the younger one, moved

21:08

out years before which I knew

21:10

she was not living there. I

21:12

subsequently realized that she was married and

21:14

living with a husband. We knew nobody

21:17

knew that I don't even think my

21:19

brother knew that she had a husband and

21:21

only living 10 minutes away from the

21:23

main house, from their parents house, but he

21:26

did not know that she had

21:28

a husband but she was living down

21:30

the street. The other daughter was living

21:32

well she moved out she had a

21:34

child and then she moved back home

21:36

with the child. So she moved

21:38

back home with the child and probably was

21:40

back home for about six years with

21:43

her child and

21:45

I think she moved

21:48

out the Sunday

21:51

before this incident

21:54

happened. So she literally moved

21:56

out three days before this

21:58

happened, this occurred. Okay,

22:01

and he knew nothing of her all that

22:03

was happening where I said she was moving

22:05

out or he knew nothing about it Is

22:08

this daughter? This is his daughter correct, and he

22:10

didn't know that she got married No,

22:14

and didn't know she was about to move out, but

22:16

that but that's what I was one The one that

22:18

got married was already out of the house This is

22:20

the other one who is not married, but she has

22:22

a child she moved back home with a child He

22:24

allowed her to move back home with a child She

22:28

moved out well She bought a

22:30

house and she closed on the house and

22:32

he knew nothing about it Her mother

22:34

knew but he did not know was

22:37

there communication problems um They

22:42

never really had a a relationship

22:46

that was Reasonably,

22:49

okay, it's always Distance

22:52

it's always separate It's always

22:54

seen that she was doing her thing

22:56

he was doing his thing and they

22:59

never really seemed like they connected And

23:02

it's it's everybody knew that They

23:05

just had their separate lives They're

23:08

under the same roof, but

23:10

they were living separate lives. Yeah, I

23:13

get that I get that you know

23:15

children want independence from their parents and

23:17

parents eventually want their child to be

23:19

independent It's interesting though that

23:22

your description of him is that he loves

23:24

people and you know obviously he loves people

23:26

because he had a job That was very

23:29

front-facing for three decades, so if he didn't like

23:31

people then he wouldn't have had that job but

23:35

in the reports in the documents that we have

23:38

He's described as being really strict and

23:41

and I don't ever want that to be

23:43

used against somebody is like well This is

23:45

an overall umbrella for how the person is

23:47

because a parent can be strict with children

23:50

Was it that strictness that kind of caused

23:52

that divide between them? I am

23:54

not even aware of a strict Nef

23:57

in him for the most thought we grew up in

23:59

Jamaica And you know, the

24:01

Caribbean, we have certain standards.

24:04

We have certain expectations of our

24:06

children. And so, you know, we have rules. And

24:10

especially him being involved in the church, there are

24:12

certain things that were unacceptable. By

24:14

this time, though, these children are

24:16

no adults. They're on their own. They

24:18

have their own lives. I don't understand

24:20

what strictness would

24:24

affect them as an adult,

24:26

no, when they were seemingly

24:29

living their normal lives. Right. Maybe

24:33

his religious beliefs were

24:37

difficult for him to... Maybe

24:39

they were afraid to approach him with the

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news about her marriage? I

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24:50

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24:54

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Can you take us to the night of March

29:34

10th, 2021? I

29:36

got a call at 3 a.m. on

29:39

March 11th that

29:41

said, your brother is,

29:43

Kevin is missing. No, she said, Kevin,

29:46

I think she said he's missing. He's not home. He's

29:49

missing. And I said, what do you mean he's

29:51

missing? He's not home from work

29:53

yet. And she said, yes,

29:55

he came home, but I don't

29:58

know where he is. And I called. the police. The police is

30:01

here." I said, that's

30:03

strange. Then she started to

30:05

tell me that he took sleeping pills and

30:08

she thinks he's sleepwalking and I mean

30:11

shocked me completely because this

30:13

is a no-no for us.

30:15

We're Jamaicans in the Caribbean,

30:18

we don't take those kind of medications.

30:21

So when she said he took

30:24

sleeping pills and he was sleepwalking, I said,

30:26

that's strange. And then

30:28

I said to her, did you

30:30

look in the backyard because he loves

30:32

the plant and part of his, one

30:35

of his passion was being out there

30:37

tending to his fruit trees. So

30:40

I said, did you look in the

30:42

backyard? And she said, no. She shone

30:44

a flashlight through the glass door but

30:46

she did not see him. And

30:49

I thought that was odd but the, she

30:51

said the police is there, they're waiting for

30:53

the canines to come and

30:55

drones. And I know the

30:58

house, there is a fence, it's completely fenced

31:01

and then there is a canal in the

31:03

backyard and he would not go down to

31:05

the canal. We had a younger brother in

31:10

Jamaica that drowned years

31:13

ago before so we were petrified

31:15

of big bodies of water. So

31:18

he would not be going down to the

31:20

canal, especially at that time

31:22

of night. So I

31:24

said, that's strange. Anyhow,

31:26

we went back and forth where she's waiting

31:28

for the canine to arrive and she's waiting

31:30

for the drone but there

31:33

is something in my stomach, just from

31:35

the way she spoke on the phone

31:37

that he's missing. When she

31:39

called me, she never said, have you heard

31:42

from him? Did he call you? She

31:44

just proceeded to tell me that he's

31:46

missing. What do you mean missing?

31:48

He's a grown man, he's an adult. How

31:52

could he be missing? My brother is not a person

31:54

who is involved in criminal

31:57

activities or anything.

32:00

with law enforcement that have to

32:02

involve law enforcement. So why would he

32:04

be missing? It makes no

32:07

sense. Had she called other people

32:09

before she called you other

32:11

than the police? She said she called

32:13

her two daughters. Afterwards,

32:15

she said she called both daughters and

32:17

none of them responded. It

32:20

was strange because both daughters only live

32:22

10 minutes away, one in

32:24

two different directions. The entire time she

32:26

said she's calling these daughters and

32:28

they're not responding. Eventually,

32:31

one daughter showed up like three hours

32:34

afterwards and the other daughter showed up

32:36

six hours afterwards. The one

32:38

that showed up three hours afterwards, the police

32:40

went to her house and it's unclear why

32:43

the police went to her house because we

32:45

don't know if the wife, the mother sent

32:48

them to her house. But they

32:50

did and they knocked on her door. They

32:52

were there for seven minutes and no response.

32:54

They got no answer. No one came

32:57

to the door. Eventually,

32:59

after she said

33:02

that she was sleeping and she

33:04

never heard the police knocking on

33:06

her door. She has a

33:08

seven year old child at the time. Someone

33:11

ought to hear police doesn't

33:13

just come and do a light knock on your

33:15

door. They're banging on your door and

33:18

she said she never heard them. Now the other daughter

33:20

who is another 10 minutes, only 10 minutes away showed

33:23

up six hours later,

33:26

said she was home sleeping because

33:29

it was her birthday and really

33:31

March 11th was her birthday and

33:34

she had muted her phone because

33:36

she did not want all

33:38

the birthday wishes that

33:40

would be coming through from social media

33:43

and messages. She did

33:45

not want anyone to be sending

33:47

her all those messages. So

33:49

she wanted to be left alone. So she

33:51

muted her phone. That's what she said. So she

33:55

never heard her mother calling

33:57

her and six hours

33:59

later. she woke up and she saw all these

34:01

missed calls and so she

34:04

contacted her mother, which is

34:06

not true. Why? Well,

34:09

one of the ironic thing about all

34:11

of this is I've been

34:13

very vocal after

34:16

the police closed the

34:18

investigation. While

34:21

his body was found, two

34:23

days later on the 13th, floating on

34:25

the canal behind this house in the

34:28

middle of the canal on

34:30

his back. Two days after his body

34:32

was found on the 15th, the

34:35

medical examiner did an autopsy

34:38

and the police department announced no

34:40

foul play right after the

34:42

autopsy. And

34:44

I was quite surprised because for

34:47

one, how do you find

34:49

a body directly

34:51

behind his house floating

34:54

on his back in the canal when

34:57

you had dogs and you had canine drones

34:59

back there, no indication that

35:02

he was there, no footprint,

35:05

no indentation, nothing to suggest

35:07

that he walked back there.

35:10

His house was completely fenced.

35:13

The fence is locked from the inside

35:15

so he could not have gone

35:17

through the fence and then locked from the inside, nothing,

35:21

no indication that he would have gone

35:24

back there. And then the police

35:26

announced no foul play. I was

35:28

very shocked. The

35:30

police said we have to wait

35:32

for toxicology report

35:35

to find out the minor

35:38

and cause of death. And

35:41

I said, okay, we wait and we

35:44

waited for three months. After

35:46

three months, we got the toxicology

35:48

report that came back with lethal

35:50

levels of Benadryl in his system,

35:53

lethal levels. So I

35:55

said, okay, what is

35:57

this police department is going to do now? three

36:00

months later, by this time, she had

36:02

already tossed all the

36:04

furniture out on the sidewalk, everything

36:06

on the

36:08

sidewalk, household, and

36:10

she's on her way, his wife, you know,

36:13

living her own life. And I thought, Lisa

36:16

Levers of Benadryl, now this

36:18

requires an in-depth thorough investigation.

36:21

No, the police

36:23

closed, the medical examiner ruled

36:25

accidental drownings, and the case

36:28

was closed. And I'm

36:31

questioning the medical examiner, first of all,

36:35

when you did the autopsy two days later, which

36:37

you should not have waited two days later to

36:39

do an autopsy on a drowning victim, but

36:41

when you did that autopsy two days later, didn't

36:44

you know that it was drowning at

36:46

that time? You should have known. We don't

36:49

need toxicology to then tell us that this

36:51

is drowning. It makes

36:54

no sense. And so I've been

36:56

citing tooth and nails to

36:59

get them to revisit this and to see

37:02

that there's more to this than they

37:06

are telling us. Lots of questions. Might

37:09

sound a little insignificant, but I'm really

37:11

curious what the fence was made of.

37:14

Was it a chain link fence? And

37:16

how is it? No, it's PVC. PVC.

37:19

It's latch. It's one of those latch

37:21

that you put on it and you

37:23

push it over. It's a latch. And

37:26

the latch was slid into the lock

37:28

position. Correct. Correct. Correct. And

37:31

even cobwebs, spiderwebs

37:34

were there, so it was not touched

37:36

at all. We

37:39

could see spiderwebs still on the lock. And

37:42

it's a high enough sense that you cannot

37:44

just scale the fence. Right.

37:46

Okay. And tell me about the

37:48

Benadryl use. Why was he taking

37:50

Benadryl? I have no idea. I

37:53

really have no idea. Have you heard any

37:55

of the 911 call? Maybe you've heard

37:58

that one. And she mentioned Benadryl. which

38:00

was odd. And I

38:03

still don't know why the toxicologist

38:07

tested for Benadryl, and not

38:09

the other things, because he had heart problems,

38:11

so he was taking heart medication, but none

38:13

of that is in the report. So

38:16

I don't know why they zoned in

38:19

on testing for the Benadryl, but

38:22

I had no idea why

38:25

he would be taking Benadryl. When

38:28

the 911 call, his wife mentions he

38:30

was on sleeping pills. Is that what

38:32

she was talking about, the Benadryl? No,

38:34

she actually spelled

38:37

out the medication that she's calling the

38:39

sleeping pill on the 911 call,

38:41

the Alproxam. Alproxam,

38:44

she spelled that out. That's what

38:46

she was calling a sleeping pill.

38:48

It's an anti-anxiety medication. It's

38:50

not a sleeping pill. 911 police fire,

38:54

or an ambulance. I

39:00

don't know what happened to my husband. He

39:03

told me he was going into the garage, and

39:06

I can't see him come back. He

39:08

left his phone here. What's

39:11

your address? What's

39:13

your address first?

39:16

Southeast England Drive. How

39:22

long ago did he leave? You checked

39:24

the garage and he's not there? Right,

39:28

the side door was open, but

39:31

I don't see him. How

39:33

long ago did he leave? I saw him on 12, 12, 12, 1235. I was coming into

39:45

the room. I was

39:48

coming into my room, in

39:50

the room, and then he was going outside, and I

39:53

said, where are you going? He said, I'm going to

39:55

check something in the garage. I can't

39:57

see him. What's

40:00

his name? And they have the doobie. His name

40:02

is Calvin Ben. Alright, Calvin, the smallest last name? B-E-R-R-Y. State

40:05

of birth? 12-262. What

40:07

color shirt, what color pants is he wearing? It

40:11

should be a gray shirt. And

40:13

I believe he has got

40:16

a black shirt. Okay. Okay. Okay.

40:19

Okay. Okay. Okay.

40:23

Okay. Okay. Okay.

40:26

Okay. Okay. Okay.

40:29

Okay. Okay. And

40:31

he has got a black shirt. Black hair or, you know,

40:33

what color hair, what color eyes? His

40:38

hair is getting

40:40

gray, but it's cut really low. Okay.

40:43

Okay. And it may have a... And what color eyes?

40:46

Yeah. It's brown. Alright.

40:54

Is the car

40:57

out there? Yes. The

40:59

two cars... His truck and his car are

41:01

not as bad as out there. The

41:04

seats are inside. And he doesn't go

41:07

anywhere without his phone. Alright.

41:10

Let's see. And

41:12

I need to tell you that they have him

41:15

on. I

41:17

told Rem something like that to help

41:20

him sleep, because he hasn't been sleeping

41:22

that well. I told Rem. What

41:25

do you mean? Like, does he have a machine

41:27

hooked up on him when he was walking out? No, no. Is

41:30

that muscle? Not muscle. Is that a

41:32

relaxer? Let me see if

41:34

I can find the button. So he's on muscle

41:36

relax? Okay. You

41:39

said the side door to the garage is open, correct? Right.

41:45

Is the garage open as well? No. He

41:48

has a defibrillator.

41:51

Okay. Your name, please. Okay.

41:54

So I see the dog here. Okay. I

41:56

see the dog here. Okay. Okay.

41:59

Okay. Okay. And

42:05

the medication that they gave you

42:07

just before, it's

42:11

A-L-P-R-A-V-O-L-A-M,

42:15

and he also takes on benefits. I

42:17

don't know if he did that tonight. Okay. So

42:21

he took a sleeping pill and then he walked

42:23

off? He took it. He

42:26

told me he was going to take his medicine,

42:28

which would be the sleeping pill. But

42:32

then he, you know, I came in because

42:35

he wants to get some sleep. He hasn't been

42:37

sleeping well. Yes. So I was able

42:39

to go in the next room watching TV.

42:42

And when I was coming out to go

42:44

back into our bedroom, he was coming out.

42:47

And so that he's going to

42:49

the garage. Okay.

42:52

Okay. Do you think he

42:55

took more than one sleeping pill then? Or? I

43:07

have no idea what to think, what

43:09

does he do, because, you know, he

43:11

takes his medicine. But he

43:13

has trouble sleeping. Okay, then.

43:15

I don't... Okay. We're

43:19

going to send an officer out to you, as I mentioned, so

43:21

you follow a report for a missing person,

43:24

because you last on him an hour and a half ago. And

43:27

then they'll speak to you and they'll go in there, okay? How

43:30

much Benadryl qualifies

43:33

as a lethal dose? The

43:36

toxicology report showed it was

43:39

seven times the normal

43:43

dose. Which

43:45

is only like two pills. That's no.

43:48

It would have been equivalent to, I

43:50

think, fifty. No, that's what I mean.

43:52

Like, the normal dose is like two or three pills

43:54

or something. Correct. And

43:57

that's postmortem testing. Right. So

44:00

some of that could have worn off. Correct.

44:03

Correct. And then

44:05

what was the cause of death in

44:07

the autopsy report? Accidental drowning

44:09

complicated by the use

44:12

of difenhydra. OK. So

44:14

there was water that was taken from his

44:16

lungs? No. No.

44:20

So no water in his lungs? No. So

44:23

he didn't die of drowning? Well,

44:26

that's something that a medical

44:29

examiner needs to clarify because

44:32

she has accidental

44:34

drowning on

44:37

the death certificate and

44:40

on the medical examiner's

44:42

report. But the report shows

44:44

no water in his lungs. Hope

44:46

you enjoyed part one of our interview with

44:48

Dornette. Part two will be coming out in

44:51

a few days on missing. Make sure to

44:53

check out Justice for Calvin for more information.

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