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This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.

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Hey listeners, it's Tim and Lance. There's a

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new podcast we think you're really

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gonna like, and we gotta tell you about it. It's

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called Ghost Story, and journalist Tristan

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Redman is going where no son-in-law

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should ever go. Deep into his

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wife's family history, digging

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up the cold case of his wife's murdered

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great-grandmother. And he's asking questions

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no one in the family wants answered. Oh Tim,

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did you mention that he's also looking into

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whether the murderer was actually his

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wife's great-grandfather, the

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beloved family patriarch? Oh

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boy. Well, this all started with

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a ghost. That's right, a ghost. Growing

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up, weird things would happen in Tristan's

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bedroom. Objects moving around

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with no explanation, lights switching

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themselves on and off. But ultimately

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he shrugged all of this off. Until

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a couple of years ago when he discovered that

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every subsequent occupant of his old

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room was convinced they'd experienced

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inexplicable things in there as well.

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From Wondery and Pineapple Street Studios

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comes Ghost Story, a podcast about family

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secrets, overwhelming

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coincidence, and the

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things that come back to haunt us. We're

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about to play a clip from Ghost Story, and

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follow Ghost Story on the Wondery app or wherever

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you get your podcasts. Binge all episodes

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app or on Apple Podcasts.

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I want to tell you a story. Well,

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it's really three stories all wrapped around each

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other. It's a ghost story,

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it's a murder mystery, and it's a family

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drama. By which I mean, it's

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about my wife's family, her family's

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history. And there's a chance

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they'll disown me for doing this.

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If you come out with a piece that says he was a murderer,

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then I will be sorry that we

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have not been able to do it. and we would contribute

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to it. But

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before we get into any of that, let's

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start at the beginning with

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a thing that set all of this in motion.

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When I was 16 back in the 90s,

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my family moved to an old Victorian

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house in London on a street called

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Queen's Road. I

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slept in a bedroom tucked into the creaky

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top floor and weird things

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would happen out there. I'd

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wake up and objects would have moved

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across the room, specifically

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this one vase. When

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I'd go to bed, it'd be on the mantelpiece,

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and then in the morning I'd find it on the desk.

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I'd put it back, and the next morning I'd find

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it somewhere else. Lights would

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flash on and off on their own, and

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I'd get this uncomfortable cold feeling whenever

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I was alone in the house. It

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freaked me out at the time, but the

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truth is, I didn't really think much of it.

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I was a teenager, I had other

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things on my mind. Every now

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and then I'd ask my sister if she was

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messing with me, but she always swore

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she wasn't. I grew

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up, left home, and became a

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journalist for Al-Dazira. I

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covered things like French labour strikes and

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the war in Ukraine. I don't believe

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in ghosts. So when my family

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moved out of the house on Queen's Road, I

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completely forgot about the weird stuff that

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happened in there. Until

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that is, a few years ago, a

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man reached out, an old neighbour

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of ours, with a story about

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that very room. I

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mean, it's quite a story. His

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name is Charles Penely, and

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he knows everything about this neighbourhood.

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You could say he's a bit of a gossip, but

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you probably shouldn't. Slandris gives

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completely the wrong impression. Anyway,

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this is what he told me. Charles

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was walking around my old neighborhood one day going

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door to door, collecting donations

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for the local museum, and

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definitely not gossiping. Eventually,

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he gets to my old house and knocks on the door. A

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woman answers, she's the mother of the house.

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After chatting for a bit, she invites him inside

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and she tells him a story unlike

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anything he's ever heard before. The

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story goes, Americans swans up with

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a halo and… Here's what she tells

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him. One day, the woman is at home

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at my old house. She looks out

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of the window and she sees a man

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standing on the driveway. So the

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mother of the house opens the door. It's

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someone who used to live in the house, an

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American man who'd live there with his wife

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and two children. The American

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says to her, I'm so sorry

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to bother you, but I just have

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to know. Do

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you still have that ghost in the top bedroom?

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Straight like that.

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What the American man proceeds to tell

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her, the things his

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family experienced on the top floor,

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it makes her go completely white,

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because this isn't the first time she's heard of something

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going on up there. She

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just never believed it before.

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This struck a chord since the daughter

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had always insisted that there was a ghost

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in her bedroom, which would manifest

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itself on occasions and sit on her bed.

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The woman's daughter, starting when she was around 10,

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began complaining about a ghost visiting

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her room at night, specifically

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the ghost of a faceless woman.

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She said to me, oh yes, my

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daughter told me about some

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goings on, some sort

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of faceless This woman who comes and sits on

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my bed, and she said,

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I always batted them away

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on the basis that we don't

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believe in that sort of thing. So

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I rang your father, and he

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said, that was Tristram's room. So

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I imagine he phoned you and the cat

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was out of the bag. I

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promise you, and I hope you believe me,

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that I don't normally find

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myself having conversations like this, or

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even entertaining these sorts of ideas.

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But it's kind of weird, right? You

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now have three completely unconnected

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families who have had some

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sort of strange

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inexplicable experience on the top

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floor of that house. I think it's wonderful. It

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was definitely intriguing, but it probably

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wouldn't have been anything more than a story I'd

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tell my friends in the pub. Except

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I couldn't stop thinking about this faceless

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woman. And that's because

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there's another coincidence, something

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I hadn't thought about in years. So

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I guess Tristram and I had just started going out, and

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they invited my parents around to

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his house to come and say hi. I

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first learned about it when my wife Kate and

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I had just started dating about 20 years

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ago. My family still

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lived in the house on Queen's Road, the

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one with the supposed ghost. And

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Kate was staying with us. And my granddad

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was in London, so they invited him over too. She

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was very close to her grandfather, so my folks

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asked if he'd join us.

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So granddad arrived. He's

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got nice rosy cheeks, granddad, like

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all the men in my family. He wore

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a berry every day to keep

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his bald head warm. And

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then my granddad walked into the house.

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And before

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he said anything else,

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he said,

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my mother was murdered in

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the house next door.

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And I don't think we had ever put two and

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two together

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between where Tris

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lived and this big

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murder that happened in the family. To be clear,

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I'd never heard about this murder

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before.

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In

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fact, Kate didn't know a lot about it either. Just

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that her great-grandmother had been killed decades

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before. She had no idea

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that it happened here. Neither of

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us had any clue at the time that my new

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girlfriend's family had any connection

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to this neighborhood, let alone the house

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next door. But the

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details of the murder make the coincidence even stranger because just next door to my house,

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the house supposedly haunted by a faceless woman,

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Kate's great-grandmother was killed

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by two gunshots to the face.

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