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going on everybody? I am MyTech. Hope

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you're all doing absolutely great. Really tremendous.

2:31

We are on the eve of UFC St. Louis.

2:35

Yes, the gateway to the West.

2:39

Hosting a UFC event headlined by

2:41

Derek Lewis versus Rodrigo

2:44

Nascimento. Yes, the

2:46

fight that St. Louis has been

2:48

clamoring for. They said,

2:50

hey, you better bring Rodrigo

2:53

Nascimento to St. Louis or we're not doing

2:55

an event here. And the UFC comes through

2:58

as they always did and weigh-ins are going

3:00

on right now. And holy crap,

3:03

one of the big questions we have. Heading

3:06

in. There

3:08

are sultans, roots of bias, one

3:11

of the first to the scale and he

3:13

makes it. Makes the welterweight

3:15

limit on short notice for

3:17

his fight against Joaquin Buckley. Cannot

3:21

wait to hear Jed Michoud's response to this.

3:25

All right, that's good. That's

3:28

good. We got a

3:30

fight. Well, I mean, we still go Joaquin Buckley, but yeah,

3:35

good news right there. So that's happening. There's

3:38

other news and notes. There's some fights announced. I'm sure a lot

3:40

of you are going to have some questions about that. But a

3:43

couple of big pieces of news

3:45

that have dropped over the last,

3:48

I don't know, 15, 18 hours

3:50

or so. Conor McGregor

3:53

officially signed the papers. Co-owner

3:55

of BKFC. It's happening.

3:59

It's a thing. What the hell are

4:01

we doing here? What a world we live in and

4:03

also about an hour ago Sean

4:08

O'Malley Did the thing

4:10

he said he was not going to release

4:13

the video of the

4:16

final moments of a 2016

4:18

sparring session with current

4:20

UFC Flyway champion Alexander Pantoja Pantoja

4:25

had some things to say about the sparring session in the

4:27

past and and brought

4:29

it up during UFC 301. O'Malley released,

4:31

you know, a short clip on his

4:33

YouTube which Pantoja responded to and I

4:36

think Pantoja just said like one thing too many

4:38

and Sean O'Malley was just like, F it.

4:42

No honorable Steve's I guess releases

4:45

the footage and

4:47

it's pretty much at

4:49

least just from that clip exactly

4:51

what Sean said it was. He kicked him in the liver

4:55

Pantoja was like, nah, I can't go anymore and

4:57

that's pretty much what the video looks like but

5:00

I mean without full context

5:02

and like watching the full spar from

5:05

start to finish. I mean, we just don't know maybe

5:07

something happened beforehand. I don't really know but based

5:10

on what we just saw man,

5:13

pretty wild stuff. I'm

5:15

I even told one of my

5:17

managers a few seconds ago. I'm like, I can't

5:19

believe he released it and then he's

5:22

just like there's no real honor anymore in

5:24

the sport like it's just a whole different

5:26

place than it was five six years ago.

5:28

That would never happen five six years ago.

5:32

But now here we are. So

5:34

we got that we got other stuff. If

5:36

there's any weirdness at the weigh-ins, I will let

5:39

you know there is no video. But

5:42

of course AK Lee just the best of the

5:44

business that covering these weigh-ins. He's

5:48

paying attention to what's going on and he'll

5:51

keep us posted and then when he tells me I'll tell you

5:53

how about that. Alright, let's go. Let's

5:57

hear from you all. A few people lined up. four-court

6:00

sports so I right ahead. Alright

6:02

Mike so I saw

6:05

that Big Marissa I

6:07

ended up announcing that Roman

6:09

Delite versus Michelle Pereira is

6:11

going to be happening for UFC Louisville I just

6:13

want to get your thoughts on that I

6:17

feel like this is another quick turnaround I know

6:19

people were clamoring for Michelle and I think

6:21

even like the broadcast was saying that he

6:24

should be fighting you know upper echelon

6:26

fighters I mean he's been

6:28

fighting you know people like Pereira

6:30

and stuff like that and

6:33

I think that this is an interesting

6:35

test for him to fight Roman Delite. I wanted

6:39

to know what was your biggest takeaway from

6:41

the from the card for this weekend for

6:44

UFC St. Louis for

6:48

me personally the the fight

6:50

that I'm actually looking forward to is

6:52

outside of the the co-mean event is

6:55

what's it called the Shawn Woodson Alex Casares fight. I feel

6:58

like Shawn Woodson is fighting in

7:00

his hometown but I'm very

7:03

interested to see like how he's going to

7:05

be you know

7:07

trying to implement his boxing against Alex Casares.

7:09

You know Alex Casares has

7:11

a very funky style he's not

7:13

the biggest puncher in the world I just wonder

7:16

what's your thought on that fight but yeah

7:19

just wanted to get your thoughts on

7:21

the fight announcement with Pereira and the lead say you have

7:24

a good segue from this card and the

7:27

Casares-Woodson fight. Thanks Mike. Thanks

7:30

man yeah Casares-Woodson is a good fight looking forward

7:32

to it a lot of

7:35

people are I mean just basically what

7:37

I've seen on on social media there's

7:39

a lot of people who just feel like Shawn's gonna

7:41

run Alex over that this will not

7:43

be all that competitive I

7:46

don't know if that's necessarily true these are

7:48

the spots that Alex Casares

7:50

shines in for some

7:52

reason comes in as an underdog against

7:55

an up-and-coming fighter and usually

7:57

he finds a way to play spoiler he

7:59

does that more more often times than not. So I am

8:01

looking forward to it. Sean is a freak at 145.

8:04

He's huge, tremendous boxing.

8:07

His grappling is getting a lot better. Pretty

8:10

well rounded as well. So

8:13

this will be a really good test. I'm very much

8:15

looking forward to this fight and see what he

8:18

does against, I would say Catheris

8:20

is probably a top 20 guy in my

8:22

eyes. I'm not sure if he's ranked in the UFC rankings at

8:24

this point, but he's probably a top 20 to 25 guy in

8:27

my eyes and featherweight's a loaded ass

8:30

division. So Sean can go in there and do

8:32

work. It'll be impressive and it

8:34

probably sets him up for a

8:36

pretty big fight. If he can

8:38

beat Alex Catheris, I love it. The

8:41

storyline, I think

8:43

was the question. The thing

8:45

I'm looking at, it's 100% walking

8:47

Buckley. He

8:49

is the story of this entire card.

8:54

I have been pretty public on

8:57

pretty much from jump street from the

8:59

moment Joaquin Buckley finished Vicente Luque

9:02

that he has fumbled all of this. He's

9:04

bungled it from not having a

9:07

name to call out or anything of that nature.

9:11

He wanted to headline this card even though there was

9:13

a main event. Went

9:16

to the UFC 300 press conference, the

9:19

pre-fight one and

9:21

kind of made it about

9:23

himself. And a lot of people

9:25

loved that. I did not like it at

9:27

all. You're just kind

9:29

of taking shine away from the event and

9:32

what's happening with the other fighters on the

9:34

dais. Didn't love that from Buckley,

9:36

but he gets what he wants. But

9:39

at the same token, he's

9:41

fighting a frigging murderer. Nersulten

9:44

Ruzebayev is a badass. And

9:46

the biggest thing about this fight is

9:49

that these

9:52

badass fighters that

9:54

nobody knows about, these are always the

9:56

most dangerous fights. He goes out and

9:58

just melts Vicente Luque. was

10:00

a perennial ranked guy. And now

10:02

he has to fight their thoughts of Ruzebayev,

10:04

who's won nine in a row, looked incredible.

10:07

It's a massive guy, even at 185, he's

10:10

gonna be humongous at 170. And

10:13

it's just a really tough fight for Buckley. However,

10:16

if he goes out

10:18

there and just thumps up

10:20

Ruzebayev, then

10:22

I will come on this show Tuesday. I'll come

10:24

on the post-show Saturday and be like, hey man,

10:26

he did the thing. And

10:30

I'm very, I'm

10:33

wondering if Joaquin Buckley has the most to

10:35

lose on this entire card, because right now

10:37

I think he does. I

10:39

think he has the most to lose, even more than Derek

10:41

Lewis. Because Derek Lewis is Derek

10:43

Lewis. If he goes out and loses to Rodrigo

10:45

Nascimento, yeah, it's gonna be a bummer. I think

10:47

the St. Louis fans will be like, because

10:50

if Lewis

10:52

loses, it's just not gonna be fun. Like

10:55

the fight will not be all that entertaining. And

10:58

this is pretty much like on paper, a setup

11:00

for Derek Lewis to get a first round knockout.

11:02

It just seems that way from everything that I've

11:04

watched heading into this fight. But

11:08

yeah, but even if he loses,

11:10

like it doesn't matter. Derek Lewis is just gonna fight

11:12

somebody else and people will be excited about it. It'll

11:14

probably headline a fight night card and

11:16

people will just be excited to talk,

11:19

hear him talk about, you know,

11:21

just funny shit. So

11:24

I think Joaquin Buckley is the

11:26

biggest story of this entire card. If he goes

11:28

out and loses, it's a bad, bad loss. Not

11:32

saying like, we're just a bad fighter, but

11:34

to go from Vicente Luque

11:36

to taking a step back against

11:39

an unknown, but really, really

11:41

talented fighter who's

11:43

looked real good and could be one

11:45

of the guys, it's

11:47

just a lot, he's got a lot on the line here. And

11:50

not only that, if he goes out wins, what's

11:52

he gonna do on the mic? You can't do

11:55

nothing, you have to do something.

11:57

And I'll give him, I'll say what

11:59

he shows. to Dutton after

12:02

the Atlantic City win. He has another

12:05

opportunity. You call out MVP, go

12:08

to Manchester, call for that man. You

12:10

just might get it. And

12:12

that's what I would do if I was him, but we'll see. We

12:16

shall see. And then the other fight, uh,

12:18

Michelle Pereira stepping into fight Roman de Lise.

12:23

It's a good fight. I mean, Pereira would be kind

12:25

of crazy to not take it. He gets a ranked

12:27

guy who was on a tremendous

12:29

run, had a great 2022. And

12:34

then loses to Marvin Vittori loses

12:36

an asteroid in Imovov. And

12:39

if you're going to fight a guy who's

12:41

in the top 10, you might

12:43

want to fight a guy who's watched

12:46

two in a row and hasn't looked particularly

12:48

fantastic. Vittori fight. He looked okay for

12:52

Spurs. So there were people who thought he won that fight, but you

12:55

have something about pretty good.

12:57

So we'll see what Pereira can

12:59

do. And then he becomes a top 10 middleweight

13:01

in the UFC and we

13:04

could do some really fun things with him. So yeah,

13:06

I like the matchup. I think it's perfect.

13:09

And shouts to both guys for

13:12

taking this fight on what a month's notice or so.

13:16

I'm down. I like it. Let's

13:21

go to left

13:23

lane. It's up both lane. So

13:25

Mike, can you hear me? Yes, sir. Well,

13:28

really looking forward to the card this weekend,

13:30

even though I know the main events got

13:32

a lot of slack, I've came on here.

13:35

I shat on it as well as everyone

13:37

else did, but overall cards actually really good.

13:39

Even like a lot of the prelim fights

13:41

are interesting. We all know lightweight's the best

13:43

division in the sport. We got three really

13:45

interesting lightweight fights. McKinney versus Ribervich, Hooper versus

13:48

Borshev. And then Rebecca versus Pereira or Pereira

13:50

is the one I'm actually most intrigued in

13:52

because Matias Rebecca is a guy that I've

13:54

been pretty high on since after

13:58

his debut. He's

14:00

really hiring him going into the Rajdabov fight. A

14:02

lot of people were picking Rajdabov there and I picked

14:06

Rameky with a lot of confidence and then

14:08

he's been doing good things. So I think

14:10

if you get to win against guy like

14:13

Diego Fajayo who has been ranked in his

14:15

career before beating some decent names, then I

14:17

think I would personally have him in line

14:19

for like a ranked guy

14:21

because I do think he's at that caliber. But

14:23

apart from that, we got Buckley,

14:26

we all know what's going down there. He

14:28

needs to win that fight because he's got

14:30

something going for himself at the moment. Like

14:32

he's starting to really become like

14:34

a personality in the welterweight division, which there's

14:36

not a lot of to be honest. I

14:39

think Colby Sticks kind of got nulled. Ian

14:41

Gary, I guess, is just baiting people and

14:43

they get mad at him, but it's kind

14:45

of weird. But yeah, Buckley does

14:47

seem to have something going for himself. So it'd be really

14:49

good for him to get a win. But apart from that,

14:51

I got three bets down on the card. I know you're

14:53

not, I know you're not jed, you're not on the the

14:56

no bets barge show, I got

14:58

a parlay with Robelis de Spain by first

15:00

round KO and then Derek Lewis by KO.

15:03

I got 20 bucks on that, playing like 80 or

15:06

something. I got one or just five bucks,

15:08

which is both of those two for around

15:10

one KO. And then I got a four leg

15:12

parlay, which is Robelis

15:15

round one KO, Derek Lewis KO. And then

15:17

I've got Rebecca by KO. And then I've

15:19

got Woodson versus Casares to go the distance.

15:21

I got five bucks on that to pay

15:23

like 80. So what do you

15:25

reckon about that? What do you reckon about the three lightweight

15:27

match ups? And yeah, it's a good card this weekend. Yeah,

15:31

you're braver than me with those

15:33

like super specific parlays. I

15:37

mean, there's a world where all those things

15:39

can happen. So I wish

15:42

you the best of luck on your journey and

15:44

hope you cash all the bets. Just

15:47

those are bets that I personally wouldn't make. I

15:49

just, if I'm gonna parlay things, I'm just

15:51

gonna parlay the shit out of the chalk for

15:54

the most part. But

15:56

yeah, a lot of those things can happen and bye.

16:00

Kind of expect a lot of those things to happen.

16:02

So Should

16:04

be fun. Uh, let's take a look

16:06

at the lightweight fights Let's

16:10

take a gander shall we I'm

16:13

gonna pull I'm gonna pull the betting lines while we're at it

16:15

here Um

16:21

Let's see we got Terrence McKinney Esteban

16:24

Riebevich I mean, you know the

16:26

beauty of a Terrence McKinney fight is you know what you're

16:28

gonna get? Uh, he's either gonna

16:30

get or get got in the first seven minutes

16:34

So I would say if there's like one bet that

16:36

I would feel very confident in it's a little chalky

16:38

Uh, that fight going under one and a half seems

16:41

like a really good bet But

16:45

I like to fight it's gonna be fun as hell I know Riebevich

16:47

has hasn't had a finish in

16:49

the UFC yet, but the dude is a finisher and

16:52

he's fighting a guy who Can

16:55

be finished or is a finisher. So that should

16:57

be fun as hell chase hooper and slava claws

16:59

is an

17:01

interesting fight I

17:03

would probably bet chase hooper here Who's

17:07

the dog at plus 120? Like I know

17:09

slava claws is a far better striker than

17:11

chase hooper chase is getting better Still

17:14

looks a little sloppy in there. I think he'd

17:16

probably be the first one to tell you that

17:19

a little bit uncomfortable at times You almost like

17:21

when he starts having exchanges with people you kind of Hide

17:25

your face in your in your hands a little bit

17:27

because it just doesn't look aesthetically pleasing problem

17:31

is Chase hooper's

17:33

big skill Is such

17:35

a big one in this fight his wrestling is

17:38

just so superior to slava claws and

17:40

chase hooper The

17:43

way I read this fight is that as long as chase doesn't get

17:45

got And he could just land a takedown.

17:47

It's probably winning that round plain

17:51

and simple so I

17:54

think there's some interesting value on chase

17:56

hooper at plus 120 and

17:58

then Riebevich cdf Love the

18:01

fight. We're going to get

18:03

some questions answered because

18:05

CDF is a dog, but CDF is also

18:07

getting up

18:09

there at age. He is knocking on the

18:11

door 40, I believe. Just

18:15

want to make sure I have my facts straight. I know he's up

18:17

there. Where

18:19

is he? He is 39. Yeah. So

18:23

he is knocking on the door 40. So CDF

18:26

hasn't really been the most active guy in the

18:28

world. It's been about a year since we've seen

18:30

him. And he

18:32

did knock on Michael Johnson. It was pretty nasty. And

18:35

then prior to that, it was almost

18:38

two years, like a year and a half

18:40

away after losing to Mattush Gamrod. He lost

18:42

his gut finish by Greg Gillespie, last but

18:44

not very huge. I mean,

18:47

obviously very good names to lose to. So

18:49

this is interesting. Like, Rubecky is a huge

18:52

favorite. Minus 500. I

18:56

think he wins, but I got to tell you,

19:00

CDF is tough, even

19:03

at 39. And I just

19:05

ran down those three losses in those three

19:07

of the top 10 lightweights in the world. I

19:11

mean, we don't know where Greg Gillespie is, but still

19:14

when he competes, he's probably a top 10

19:16

lightweight. So yeah, it's

19:20

going to be an interesting fight. We'll see if Rubecky can

19:22

come through and we'll see if CDF can play spoiler again.

19:24

He does that quite often.

19:27

And when he is active in fighting, he's

19:30

very fun to watch. So it's going

19:32

to be a good fight, but

19:34

could be a breakout night

19:36

for Mattush

19:40

Hrabeczky. I think that's how

19:42

the UFC is setting it up, but we'll see. Let's

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And the Wheel of Doom

22:32

continues. Absaluya, go ahead. So,

22:34

Mark, heck of a morning. Firstly, I

22:36

just want to talk a little

22:38

bit about the NBA today. I'm

22:41

not sure if you saw the Boston

22:43

Celtics game. Yeah, it's freaking Tom, Absaluya.

22:45

That was a fucking disgrace. Yeah,

22:48

I want to get your thoughts on that. Do

22:50

you think it's a big overreaction from a lot

22:52

of the NBA world, you know, Cavs fans just

22:54

kind of, you know, having a little bit of

22:56

ego, you know, to spout on the Cavs, I

22:59

mean, the Celtics? Or do you

23:01

think there is a chance that because, you know, the

23:03

Cavs team is not the same Miami Heat team

23:06

that has its flaws and weakness, you know,

23:08

that they have a possible chance to try and,

23:10

you know, give the Celtics a hard series? I

23:18

mean, fuck me, man. If this

23:23

becomes like a six or seven game series,

23:25

I am going to be pissed because Cleveland

23:27

is not good. They're just they're

23:29

not good. The Celtics played so

23:31

bad last night. Like it was awful.

23:35

It was awful. I was playing poker

23:37

last night as well. So luckily, I

23:39

won some money. So it

23:41

softened the blow a little bit. But Jesus Christ,

23:44

man, they sucked last night. That was one of

23:46

the worst. That's probably the worst game they played

23:48

all season. Jason

23:50

Tatum can't hit water if he fell out of

23:53

a boat. It's just so bad.

23:55

And you can only expect Derek White and

23:58

guys like that to carry this. team for so

24:00

long, like every, like it's

24:03

just awful. Caleb's got

24:05

to fucking sack up, start

24:08

making some shots. I don't know what he's got to

24:10

do, but he's got to do something. This is awful.

24:13

This team is, I still think they're going

24:16

to win the next three games. Cause I

24:18

just think Cleveland's not a good basketball team,

24:21

but if the Celtics show up to play the

24:23

Knicks, the way they're playing right now, they

24:25

ain't going to beat the Knicks. They'll

24:27

win games, but they ain't going to beat them. They

24:30

need Tatum to get cooking. Like he

24:33

didn't even have to go off for like 40 a

24:35

night, just make a few shots. If he goes for

24:37

like 16, 18 points and just becomes

24:39

a threat to some extent, they will

24:41

beat the Knicks cause the Celtics are

24:43

better. They're just better. But

24:46

if Tatum can't do shit, then they

24:48

ain't beating this team. So yeah, it

24:54

was awful. It was so frigging bad. I

24:56

was disgusted as a Celtics fan. Just

25:00

no balls. No balls

25:02

last night. Josh, go ahead. Josh,

25:13

try again. It's not connecting

25:15

for some reason. YVMZ,

25:18

go ahead. Hey,

25:20

Mike. Hi, good morning. I had

25:22

two quick questions for you. What

25:24

do you think Dana said that the series

25:26

just a one and done? Do you think

25:28

it's like a logistical issue? I just

25:31

don't see why. You know,

25:33

it would just be like a

25:35

one and done type deal and keep going back to

25:37

the apex. That's the first one. And

25:39

I wanted to see who you had between

25:43

Lomachenko and Kempbosis. Thank you.

25:48

Good fight, man. I don't know. I

25:55

honestly have no idea. I haven't really thought too

25:57

much about it, if I'm being honest with you.

26:00

The. As

26:02

you've got that, I was happening. Composer

26:05

looks real good. Woman: Say go

26:08

when he's on His really talks to be. Just

26:11

a tremendous by it. I. Think lemme

26:13

take on needs a bore. But he's

26:15

on. The. Back Nine, which he has

26:17

said pretty much so. Yeah.

26:19

Says he be good on a watch. Ah,

26:22

see me pull

26:24

up. Yes,

26:29

To the Apex. They're leaving The Apex. I told you

26:31

that orange they leave him. Why would they do that?

26:33

It's crazy. And then once they made that new

26:36

rule. About how family

26:38

members and friends can go watch the

26:40

fighters fight and then get escort as

26:42

a building that pretty much tell me.

26:44

Where. Can be here for for a while, probably

26:47

for other. Fear

26:49

being one and done. It

26:53

will be a one and done. We will

26:55

do a one and done. That is would

26:58

Dana White told us. Is gonna make it

27:00

extra special? Yeah, dig. Logistically, it's really tough.

27:02

I've not been inside the sphere but I've

27:04

talked people who have bet inside the sphere.

27:06

And. Everyone

27:09

has told me. Verbatim.

27:12

I don't know whether you're pull it off. It's

27:14

is not a place that built

27:16

for. My.

27:19

Combat Sports. It's a great concert

27:21

venue and like a great theater.

27:24

But. To host a sporting event. They're.

27:26

Going to have to make a lot

27:28

of logistical changes and. Like

27:30

Mark Shapiro and the Fc Brass that on

27:32

that call. It's.

27:35

Very expensive event though so I think

27:37

there's gonna blow it up. Do something

27:39

huge ends. Just.

27:41

Say that they did it. Yatim Indiana

27:44

Once we first. And

27:46

if anybody can pull it off, it's

27:48

probably him. And when Data is the

27:50

oh really passionate about something. he

27:52

will make sure it happens so i expects

27:55

this event to go off without a hitch

27:57

guy gets saudi involved their get a sponsor

27:59

So I'm sure that obviously

28:01

helps with the cost as well. So

28:05

with them involved and them putting their

28:07

money into it, they're probably gonna stack

28:09

the shit out of this thing. I don't

28:11

know if it's gonna be like 300 quality, but

28:14

I would expect the main card to be

28:16

pretty unreal. So yeah, I'm

28:19

not really surprised. And

28:21

I'm certainly not surprised I gotta say the

28:23

apex, just no, no

28:25

shock at all. It's

28:29

just such a money maker to

28:31

not have to travel and have your own place

28:33

to host fights. Let's

28:36

go to combatcastag.

28:39

What's up, man? Hey,

28:41

I just have a question for you. When it

28:43

comes to Sean O'Malley posting the footage, it seems

28:45

like every time he gets a little

28:48

bit of aura or a little bit cool, he does

28:50

something to me that's like a little bit corny. Like

28:52

Pantoja is obviously a flyweight. Obviously

28:55

every time he's hurt, he closes the distance.

28:57

This was striking only, obviously.

28:59

How did you view the

29:01

footage that he posted? So

29:05

I mean, Sean released some footage earlier

29:07

on his YouTube channel. It didn't show the

29:10

finish. I just thought

29:12

it was interesting going back and rewatching that on

29:14

his YouTube channel because it's like the first 30

29:16

seconds of the video that he did because

29:19

Pantoja just kept talking about it. I know he was asked

29:21

about it, but he just kept talking about it. And

29:25

Sean was like, look, man, I literally finished this dude in

29:27

the first round with the liver kick. Here's

29:29

just a piece of the

29:32

footage. And it showed Pantoja

29:34

trying to stand with Sean and Sean ducking

29:36

under and landing a takedown. And

29:38

then he was like, I'm not going to show the finish because that's

29:40

mean. And then I

29:42

just Pantoja reacted to it. It

29:44

was like the reason Sean's not releasing all

29:47

the footage is because he knows what happens.

29:49

And if you go back to an MMA

29:51

Hour interview back in October, Pantoja essentially said

29:53

the same thing. Because the reason

29:55

why that footage wasn't released and the reason why

29:57

Sean didn't send me the footage is because I

30:00

said, in essence, I beat the shit out. It

30:03

did not go well for him. And

30:05

I think, I think

30:07

Pantoja reacting to it and continuously talking

30:09

about it. He

30:12

should have just left it alone, honestly. But

30:15

yeah, I don't love it. It's not

30:17

my thing. But

30:22

I guess I'm not surprised in 2024 that

30:24

shit like that comes out. But

30:28

I guess my biggest takeaway was like, Oh shit.

30:30

Sean was right. I mean, he

30:32

said exactly what happened. I finished him with a liver kick.

30:36

And then he was, he said, no, Moss. And

30:40

if we're just going by that 30 second clip, that's essentially

30:42

what happened. So yeah, pretty weird. Pretty

30:45

weird. Don't love it, but

30:48

now it's out there. And just be careful. If

30:52

you don't got receipts, just be

30:54

careful. Just be careful

30:56

because that shit's going to come out. That's just how

30:58

it works. Matt, go ahead. Hey,

31:01

so I will say I'm

31:03

the biggest sugar Sean hater.

31:06

And I did actually see that he did

31:08

post a new video that actually does hit

31:10

land, have him landing the liver

31:12

kick. It actually did look pretty decent. Um,

31:15

so I hate to see that. Um, but

31:17

I was going to ask, um,

31:19

how much do you just love that

31:22

Dana was able to, um, bundle

31:24

in power slap, um, as

31:27

an offer to the Saudis to just spice

31:29

up UFC and everything like that. I,

31:31

I saw that that was one of the big things

31:33

in the press release, um, was the

31:35

power slap was also going to be in there. So I was

31:37

going to get your thoughts on that. I

31:41

don't give a shit. Honestly, I don't

31:43

care. Uh, I, I

31:45

assume that was just like part of the deal.

31:47

Just throw that in there. Let's do power slap

31:49

and Saudi. I'm sure Turkey,

31:53

Al Shea did just go up today. It was

31:56

like, Hey man, gotta have power slap here. I'm

31:58

sure this is kind of like. Dana's

32:01

note to just throw that in

32:03

there as part of the mix.

32:06

Like, let's do it. We'll throw

32:08

that in there. I would say,

32:10

I mean, obviously I have no insight

32:12

to this, but I would say I

32:14

would probably consider this like a quote

32:16

unquote, this is just a radio term

32:18

and just a broadcasting and a production

32:20

term. This is an

32:23

added value play would

32:25

be my guess. I

32:27

don't think Soddy and all

32:29

that, I don't think they were like, oh, we

32:31

have to have power slap. I would be shocked

32:33

if that's the case because I think they just

32:35

don't care. And

32:38

there might be like more celebrities at the power slap

32:40

event than at the actual event. Honestly,

32:42

the only thing that stood out about

32:44

that release to me was the Spear

32:47

sponsorship. That's it. I

32:49

don't care about power slap. I'm

32:52

not surprised that the

32:55

partnership's going to extend past

32:58

the June events. It doesn't surprise me

33:00

at all. But

33:02

the Spear thing was interesting. That was

33:04

like, that

33:07

I wasn't, not shocked by it,

33:09

but I wasn't prepared to read that, if

33:12

that makes sense. So yeah,

33:15

I mean, good for them.

33:17

If they're happy with getting

33:19

power slap, then good

33:21

on them kind of fits. Kind

33:25

of fits. Is it not? Tristan,

33:27

go ahead. Hey, Mike, can you hear me? Yep.

33:31

Mike, going back to Matusz

33:33

Trambezki versus Diego Ferreira. The

33:36

thing about Diego Ferreira, I mean, he

33:39

got knocked out by Matusz Gamron. Matusz

33:41

Gamron and Matusz Rebecca, I'm the

33:44

same team at ATT. I

33:47

really can't see why he's a big enough favorite.

33:49

I know Diego Ferreira is tough, but

33:52

I think he's lost to pretty much

33:54

the up and comers that

33:57

he has fought, Glutzy and then

33:59

Gamron. So I mean, the

34:01

thing about Rembescu is whatever they like is,

34:04

I think he's very well around

34:06

it. And then people are forgetting, this guy has

34:08

monster leg kicks. So if he

34:10

drops, like if he goes and hits him with a

34:12

couple of leg kicks, that's going

34:15

to compromise Diego Ferro tremendously.

34:18

So, you know, I understand Diego Ferro is a

34:20

tough dude and Rembescu

34:22

is a big player, but I think it's for

34:24

a good reason because just the way he's performing.

34:27

Again, if he wants to slice on a fourth by

34:29

Western, we're going to have to start looking at him.

34:32

So I'm looking at those rankings. Now, speaking of the

34:34

MMA global rankings, do

34:36

you know if AK is going

34:38

to actually commit to making

34:41

a dedicated page to it? Because the

34:43

problem is with the global rankings, I

34:45

can't see the updated versions of

34:48

the individual rankings. Now, he'll update

34:50

the MMA global rankings. I

34:52

mean, the pound for pound ones, but

34:55

there's no dedicated page. I know it's a lot

34:57

of work. So I don't at

35:00

some point for

35:02

the site that AK is going

35:04

to have to make just a dedicated page

35:06

where people just could see all

35:08

the MMA, all the global rankings. Again,

35:12

I don't know if you have any information. I don't know

35:15

if you talk to talk to him or whatever,

35:17

but I just hope

35:19

he could make a dedicated page where you could

35:21

just see all the rankings when you go into

35:23

MMA fighting. And then, you know, everything

35:25

is updated and we could see, you know, what's going

35:28

on at that point. So just

35:30

with us, Mike, thanks. I'll

35:33

get to that in a sec.

35:37

Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised Rubecky is a big favor.

35:39

Minus 500 just seems a little too wide.

35:41

I mean, who knows, Rubecky just might be

35:44

the dude. But

35:47

there are a lot of people who feel

35:49

like CDF has no chance and I just

35:51

don't agree with that. CDF could absolutely knock

35:53

Rubecky out. I don't

35:55

think that's going to happen, but he has a big,

35:57

like Rubecky can grapple. When

36:00

things get to the floor, and

36:02

we're starting the jiu-jitsu conversations, CDF's

36:05

got better jiu-jitsu. Things could

36:07

get real hairy down there for him. CDF

36:11

is a high level grappler

36:14

on the ground. High level. If

36:18

you look through Vytush Rbechky's career, he's spot

36:21

some pretty decent guys. I mean,

36:24

this is the biggest step up he's had, for

36:26

sure, in the UFC. Like,

36:28

by far. So, good vet

36:30

tests. I

36:33

mean, at least with Gamrod, like, you know,

36:37

to me, Gamrod was a lot more battle

36:39

tested against, I don't think Rbechky fought bums.

36:41

He fought some pretty decent guys, but Gamrod

36:43

was fighting some

36:46

fucking murderers on the way to the UFC,

36:48

and then his entire UFC run. He's

36:51

fought just really good dudes, for the most

36:53

part. So, yeah, it's a good

36:55

fight. Looking forward to it. We'll

36:58

get some questions answered about Rbechky, but not all of

37:00

them. Again, CDF's 39. It's

37:03

going to be 40 in January, and

37:05

as we know, that

37:07

usually doesn't fare too well for fighters

37:10

under 170 pounds or below.

37:12

So, with the

37:14

global rankings, like, if you go to the

37:17

homepage of the website, there is a section right

37:19

up top that says rankings, but I think

37:21

you're just looking for sort of a page where you just go look them

37:23

up, and I don't know if we have

37:25

that just yet, because we

37:28

don't update them. Like, we

37:30

just did a full update following UFC 300, and

37:33

following 301, because, like, there

37:38

wasn't, like, a ton there. The only

37:42

real shakeup that we had was

37:45

Bantamweight, because Jose Aldo was back.

37:48

Now, you could play the game of Flyweight a little

37:51

bit, because of Steve Ursig, where do

37:53

you put him? But

37:55

we probably won't do, like, a full

37:57

update until after, I would say after

37:59

3 hours. to have

38:02

like a full update. So, but if

38:04

you're looking for just like a, just a, that's not a

38:08

bad idea. Just have a page where you just see

38:10

the current rankings and

38:12

only the current rankings. So

38:15

I will discuss that with the powers that be and see

38:19

what we can do. Tyson,

38:22

do we have you? Hey

38:24

Mike, can you hear me? Yes, sir. All

38:28

right. Heck of a morning. Just had three quick questions. I

38:30

joined kind of late. I don't know if you kind of

38:32

touched on the first one, but

38:35

the first one is related to John

38:37

Jones and Alex

38:39

Pereira. What do you,

38:41

what do you make of the, I mean,

38:43

if that happens, let's say if John does

38:45

beat Steepay, which I anticipate we all predict

38:48

that he's going to, he's going to be Steepay. Like,

38:51

what do you make of it? If the UFC decides to

38:54

book that fight between him and Alex, you

38:56

know, you got Tom still out there or an interim

38:58

champ, whoever it is still out there. Like what it,

39:00

what would be the state of the heavyweight division? That's

39:02

the first question. My second

39:04

one is I've been kind of following the, the

39:07

back and forth, the exchanges between Max Holloway

39:09

and Ilya Topoy. What's

39:13

the likelihood of that fight actually happening? And if

39:15

it does happen, and let's say Max does beat

39:17

him, I mean, we're

39:19

looking at a fourth fight possibly

39:21

with Volk. So what are your thoughts on

39:23

that? And then third and final question would be, are

39:27

you hearing any rumblings about when

39:29

and where DDP could possibly make his first

39:31

title defense? I think that's all I got

39:33

for you, Mike. Thank you. Um,

39:38

I mean, just kind of looking at the schedule right now.

39:40

So we

39:43

got two in

39:45

June, including McGregor's return. So

39:49

it's not going to happen on either of those two cards.

39:51

July's in Manchester. It's not going to happen there.

39:57

August is purse. happen

40:00

there because it's gonna fight Izzy more

40:04

than likely. Do

40:06

they throw that to spear in September?

40:08

It's a big-ass fight. Wouldn't

40:12

be stunned if they did it there.

40:14

And then

40:16

October they'll be in Abu Dhabi but just

40:19

based on how things look right

40:21

now it would not shock me. I am

40:25

hearing rumblings of either

40:27

two probably a second October pay-per-view.

40:29

I mean do not say like

40:31

oh am I reporting this? It

40:36

just seems like that's gonna happen. Jose kind of teased

40:38

it as well on BTL because

40:40

306 is the spear. 308 is Abu Dhabi. Where's

40:45

307 gonna be? So just

40:47

process of elimination they're gonna add another

40:49

one there. Just kind of depends where that's at but

40:51

I would guess you know

40:53

just based on the business dealings if

40:55

they're gonna do that. Anaheim probably

40:59

like is probably an option Houston

41:01

somewhere like that where they usually

41:03

go but haven't been. Salt Lake

41:05

City actually that's probably the correct answer

41:09

if I had to guess. And I have no

41:11

true insight to this but I would say before

41:14

they go to Abu Dhabi they'll probably go to Salt

41:16

Lake City for a pay-per-view. And could

41:19

you throw it there? Sure I don't know. My

41:21

guess would be it's either gonna

41:24

happen in Perth or

41:27

they'll just chuck it on

41:29

the sphere. It's a pretty damn good main event right there

41:31

if they wanted

41:33

to do that. Which

41:35

leads to where

41:39

the hell John Jones Pereira.

41:42

I'll remember the other thing as well. John

41:44

Jones Pereira. I mean could would

41:47

the FC do it? Yeah they

41:49

would. It would just be insanely

41:51

ridiculous if they did

41:54

that though. It just makes no sense.

41:57

John has things that he should be

41:59

doing. Pereira

42:01

has things that he should be doing. He's

42:03

got contenders in his division. He's

42:06

got plenty of dudes to fight right now. He could

42:08

fight Yuri Parashka. It seems like that's what he wants.

42:11

There's Maghavit and Goliath. One of them could

42:13

give him a title shot. If Khalil Roundtree

42:15

goes out there and beats Jamal Hill at

42:17

UFC 303, like

42:21

that's another fight. I

42:24

just don't think we need to see it. And I,

42:27

here's the thing. I know Jed has his opinions about

42:29

John and I understand that. I

42:32

blame the UFC for this, for doing

42:34

the interim title thing, because it made no sense. And

42:36

if you're just going to do this, if

42:39

you weren't going to get Jones versus Asinall, or if

42:42

you weren't just going to give Asinall the belt, then

42:44

what is the point of the fight? Is

42:48

it just because you thought you were going to go

42:50

back to the UK and, well, worst case scenario, we

42:52

could just have him defend the interim title? It's

42:55

just so weird, the thought process

42:57

on this, because look at

42:59

what happened with light heavyweight.

43:02

Just look at it. Yuri Parashka says

43:05

he gave up the belt, quote

43:07

unquote, but we all kind of know what happened,

43:09

right? UFC has just said no. We

43:11

want to like, we need a title fight for this

43:13

card. Just drop the belt when you're ready

43:15

to come back. You'll get another shot.

43:18

Jamal Hill, same thing. No

43:20

longer the champion, vacant titles. John

43:23

versus Steve Bay doesn't need a belt. It does

43:26

not need a belt. So what

43:28

are we doing here? This whole

43:30

thing is so dumb. But I

43:32

will say, from

43:34

a prize fighting perspective,

43:37

John Jones is doing the thing right now. I

43:40

don't like it because I want to see John fight

43:42

Tom Aspinall. I think the world wants

43:44

to see John fight Tom Aspinall. And I

43:46

think the world understands that nobody cares about

43:49

John Jones versus Steve Bay right now, especially

43:51

with John Jones, wearing the belt. It makes

43:53

no sense. Who cares

43:55

if you were so obsessed with

43:57

making this fight. Just

44:00

make Tom ask on all the heavyweight champions. Create

44:03

a belt. I don't give a shit. Then

44:06

John and Seapei can fight. Tom can move

44:08

on. And if John

44:10

wants to get the belt back, then he can go

44:12

fight Tom. Like who cares? No

44:15

one, people

44:17

aren't going to look at John and Seapei any differently. They're

44:19

going to be like, Oh fuck, the belt's on the line.

44:22

So I can't watch it now. Of course

44:24

not. Those

44:26

who are going to watch that fight are going to watch the fight, whether John's

44:28

putting a belt on the line or not. But

44:32

dude, I mean, it doesn't

44:34

make, the fight just makes no sense. It

44:37

makes no sense. And

44:42

I actually think John would, I think John would

44:44

run Pereira over. Anything you want to

44:46

add to that, Tyson? Yeah, that

44:48

the last one was, was Mike. I'm

44:50

sorry. Max versus Ilya. That was my

44:52

third question. Okay. I

44:57

mean, I feel like that's. I

45:00

feel like you kind of have to strike when the iron's hot

45:03

with that one. But

45:06

you also got Volk too. And, you

45:09

know, I know a lot of people don't love a

45:11

media rematches. And for the most part, I don't love

45:13

them either. But in this particular case, you

45:16

got to give this dude a rematch. If

45:18

Volkadovski wants that

45:20

shot, give it to

45:22

him. But it all depends on what

45:25

Volk wants. If he is like good to go for

45:27

Perth, fine.

45:30

Like he should be, if you did

45:32

DDP, Izzy, and then to

45:35

Porya Volk too. Like

45:37

that's a fucking massive card.

45:39

That's huge. That's

45:42

a big ass card right there. It

45:46

doesn't appear like they're going to

45:48

Spain this year. And

45:51

Holloway just has so many options right now. He

45:53

literally could do whatever he wants. He could, if

45:55

Connor goes out and beats Chandler, like he could

45:57

fight Connor. He really could.

46:00

He could fight Chandler. He could fight for the lightweight

46:02

belt right now. The world is in Holloway's

46:04

hands right now He could do whatever he wants But

46:07

him and Illya would be a big fight. But

46:10

at the same token, and I think Max at least hearing

46:14

Daniel Cormier Sort

46:16

of recap conversations he's had with Max

46:18

Holloway. Max fully is pretty convinced that

46:20

Volk's getting the fight so

46:23

I Want to see

46:25

Illya versus Max? That's that I definitely want to see

46:27

it But if they go with Volk

46:29

and I would venture to guess they will

46:34

Like that's totally fine as well But

46:36

man, I want to position Max Holloway's in. But

46:39

Holloway's just thumping up Illya in the trash chock

46:41

back at fourth So I have to say Max

46:44

doing well doing a good job Huncho

46:48

go ahead Hey

46:53

Mike Once

46:56

Fluffy had to pull out of the Dalitze

46:58

fight, I've been thinking what's next for him

47:02

Is it like a Marvin Vittori? Is it

47:05

Jack Hermanson? Is

47:07

it Brendan Allen or is that too far of a jump?

47:10

Was also thinking maybe him and Kai would be

47:12

a good fight, but I was just

47:14

wondering what you think Thank

47:16

you for your time. Have a heck of a morning You

47:20

too man. Yeah, that's an interesting question After

47:25

301 we did on to the next one like I Immediately

47:28

after 301 I was like this is the I

47:30

have the perfect fight for Michelle Pereira. It's Anthony

47:32

Hernandez That's the one Hernandez said he'd be ready

47:34

to fight later on the summer. Go ahead and

47:36

make that fight that fight absolutely rules So

47:39

what are we doing here? But we

47:42

found out obviously Michelle Pereira is fighting somebody else.

47:44

So There you go.

47:46

Who does Fluffy fight? It's

47:49

a good question At

47:53

least let me look at the UFC rankings Unfortunately,

47:58

that's just been kind of the problem for

48:00

fluffy because the dude's real good. But

48:03

the issue is like he just can't stay

48:05

healthy. So

48:09

it's just it's just tough

48:11

scenes right now. Anytime he

48:13

gets like a ton of momentum going, he gets hurt,

48:16

books a big fight and then we have to wait.

48:18

I did

48:21

speak with Eric Nixxic and

48:25

Chris Curtis didn't need surgery or anything like that after

48:27

the Brendan Allen fight. So I'm not sure when he's

48:29

going to be able to come back, but

48:33

he's already moving around. He's hitting

48:35

pads and stuff like that. He's a little more stationary,

48:39

but fluffy versus Chris Curtis is

48:41

a fun as hell fight too. So could

48:44

you do Jacker Manson? Do you

48:47

want to go that route? It

48:49

probably wouldn't go any higher. I would

48:52

say it's kind of like a battle between Kyle and fluffy

48:55

for the Jacker Manson fight. I don't

48:57

think Brendan Allen's fighting fluffy Hernandez and

48:59

I don't think he should. I think

49:02

Brendan Allen should fight Marmotory. But

49:05

Hernandez, I would say like the best case scenario for

49:08

him is that he fights Chris Curtis. Otherwise,

49:13

I mean,

49:16

I'm trying to think like Andre

49:19

Muniz, like it would have to be like somebody like

49:21

that, right? Although

49:24

fluffy and Chara Bull would be fun

49:26

as hell. Maybe

49:31

give him Brad, maybe give fluffy like Brent

49:33

Devours or something. That's okay. I don't know.

49:36

Fluffy versus Chris Weidman. What

49:38

about that? Might be a little wild,

49:41

but yeah, it's tough

49:43

scenes, man. Barbarooza.

49:52

So the interview of Islam

49:54

with DC and the jail,

49:57

he said that he would

49:59

like to defend his title against

50:01

Arman in Madison Square

50:03

Garden. Do you think this is possible? Because

50:06

I think at the end of the day

50:08

he's going to headline the Abu Dhabi

50:11

card because I think

50:13

the UC world was hoping

50:15

for comes up to fight there

50:17

against the winner of DDP and

50:20

Israel. But I think the

50:22

only way that's possible if he

50:24

wins because if DDP

50:27

wins I don't think he

50:29

makes a quick turn around to Abu Dhabi

50:31

and then that leaves the

50:34

slump for Abu Dhabi again.

50:36

The second question I

50:38

have, it's not MMA related

50:41

but maybe

50:44

I've seen the big ball

50:46

fight against the Zendat. I know

50:49

he seems like a potato

50:51

bag for you but he's

50:53

my country man and I

50:56

know it's very hard and probably

50:59

you have never heard of him but he

51:01

had a late fight,

51:03

late April and what

51:09

I know the chances are very

51:11

slim but how do you

51:13

think for a fighter like him nobody

51:15

heard from what's the best scenario for

51:17

him? I don't think he wins. He

51:20

has a good

51:22

chin and okay wants

51:25

to work but

51:27

he's a little bit sloppy. He has a

51:29

great chin this is and

51:32

he's a bit lengthy. Thank you Mike.

51:36

I mean if he could

51:38

just be somewhat competitive I think that's

51:42

a win in itself. It's

51:45

probably just the way that it kind of has to

51:47

be but yeah a

51:49

fight for it not going to go well. If he can

51:51

win a couple rounds and have moments and just make it

51:54

a fun fight even in a

51:56

losing effort I think that's probably the I mean obviously the

51:58

best case of error for him to go in the there

52:00

when but as you said, it's

52:03

gonna be a big hill to

52:05

climb. No doubt about it. I mean,

52:08

I mean, here's what we learned from Islam

52:10

recently. He just said he likes to say

52:12

things. And

52:15

yeah, you he lays out things

52:18

all the time. I want to fight here, I want

52:20

to fight here, then I want to fight here. And

52:22

usually none of those things happen. So he's gonna

52:24

fight Dustin. He's gonna fight in Abu

52:26

Dhabi. It's just the way that it's gonna

52:28

be. There's no I would be

52:30

absolutely stunned upon such a Maya fights are

52:32

the middleweight title in Abu Dhabi. Absolutely stunned.

52:34

Because as we noted earlier, we expect

52:37

DDP is need to happen. We don't know

52:39

when. And if

52:43

we had to take guesses, it's either August or

52:45

September. And asking either of

52:47

those guys to turn around in two months

52:49

and go to Abu Dhabi and fight Hamzaah

52:51

Chamayah. I just

52:54

don't know if it's worth it. I

52:56

don't know if it's worth it. But who knows? Hamzaah may

52:58

lose to Robert Whitaker, like there is a real world where

53:00

that can happen. So we just kind

53:02

of have to kind of wait and see how this all plays out. But

53:06

give me Islam versus Armin Sarukin at like

53:08

five in the afternoon. Here

53:10

in the East Coast. That's what I want. That's

53:13

the fight I want to see. That's what

53:15

I want to see do it in Abu Dhabi. I

53:19

cannot wait. But who knows? Dustin Pooremy might have

53:21

something to say about it. But

53:25

I expect Islam to probably win that fight.

53:27

And they're on it honestly. And this is

53:30

this is just me. There is no fight I

53:32

would rather see right now. Honestly,

53:36

then Islam versus Armin too. I want to see

53:38

that fight so badly. Full

53:41

camp Armin versus full camp Islam.

53:44

That's it. Give it to me. Do

53:47

it. I'm

53:52

trying to get Josh it. You've... Oh,

53:56

wait a minute. I think it might have you now. Can you

53:58

hear me? Yeah, I got you man. Okay, cool. So

54:03

UFC lovable the first live event that I'm

54:05

going to and I wasn't even

54:07

super excited about it until I saw the day

54:10

announced Roman DeLize day, but Michelle Boneta

54:12

I'm just curious about how you see

54:14

that by going also Google shows Raw

54:17

rose touch you hear about the turkey. Oh some that

54:19

card. Is that real? Yes,

54:25

it is real we reported that I believe we were

54:28

first to report that fight Yeah,

54:30

it's happening they rebooked

54:32

it tapping on Louisville It

54:35

appeared like we have it. It's not like

54:37

a it's not like a hundred percent just

54:39

yet, but it's close The

54:43

initial report about Jared Kennedy er and emo

54:45

Bob headlining that card I Would

54:51

venture to guess that's probably gonna be announced

54:53

this weekend officially so

54:56

Expect that to headline as

54:59

I pretty much said all along that that was probably

55:01

gonna be the case It just wasn't it was

55:04

a little premature to announce it because

55:06

it wasn't all done But it seems

55:08

like you know as of conversations I had

55:10

yesterday It's

55:13

probably we're gonna get But

55:16

yeah, it's not gonna be it means not gonna be a bad card Get

55:19

some decent bangers on there. Delete day in prayer is

55:21

gonna be fun as hell It's

55:27

gonna be a fun fight I'm picking Michelle Pereira

55:30

It just seems like they're going in two

55:32

different directions right now. Prayer is going up

55:34

He's young hungry. Just entering his athletic prime

55:36

more confident than he's ever been in a

55:39

good way and Delize a still

55:41

very dangerous still very good on the

55:43

down slope right now. So Yeah,

55:46

I'll favor the hot hand Michelle

55:49

Pereira as of right now

55:51

dude. Just such a wild man in the

55:53

best ways possible Wonder

55:57

what the lines are sir better on

56:00

that fight yet. Pike

56:04

egg. How are we doing, buddy? I

56:09

just took a note a few days back

56:13

that I'm not going to hate

56:16

Jed and not at

56:18

all. I'm going to follow him. I did that.

56:21

And hitting Jed, that

56:23

feeling is long gone. I mean, I

56:25

just can't hate Jed anymore. Because

56:28

I mean, if fighting you or

56:30

self, Jed, and

56:32

the other members directly or

56:35

indirectly, you guys helped

56:37

me in my mental condition. And that's

56:39

a lot. And

56:42

I owe you guys. But talking

56:45

about Jed, he was a

56:47

little, I

56:50

mean, I just don't want to say

56:52

anything bad. But that video was not

56:54

good at all. And

56:58

Jed, according to Jed,

57:00

John Jones beat old

57:03

fighters. But old fighters

57:07

have history to become champions.

57:10

There are two of them. The

57:13

same Jan Blau which knocks

57:16

out Dominic

57:18

Reyes, broke his nose. The

57:22

same Dominic Reyes gave John Jones

57:25

the toughest fight to date. Then

57:28

Glover Tashira beats Jan

57:30

Blau which became a

57:32

champion. So there is no such

57:35

things like old man

57:37

and old fighter. They are professionals. And

57:39

they know their job. And they do

57:42

their job well. So there is nothing.

57:45

And the only reason Jed

57:47

hates John Jones because of people

57:50

are trying to compare John Jones

57:52

and Khabib, which is a

57:54

stupid thing because Khabib Nama Komeda, he's not

57:57

a goat. He

57:59

never was. So

58:02

I just

58:06

want to pass this message to Jed.

58:10

That's all it is. I'm never gonna hate

58:12

Jed again, not at all

58:14

because I owe him. Thanks

58:17

a lot, Mike. Thanks, buddy. Look,

58:21

as I've said on the show many times, Jed

58:23

is not for everybody. But you

58:26

gotta respect the fact that

58:28

he is who he is and he will never change

58:30

for anybody. And I feel like all

58:32

of us are the same way, but Jed's just a

58:34

little more hot takey, a

58:36

little more vocal than we all are. But

58:39

I think we're all on the same page and I think we

58:41

all flow in a really good way. Yeah,

58:44

Jed talks about the fighters being old, but

58:47

his biggest complaint about

58:50

the Pereira idea was he

58:53

feels like at least down the stretch,

58:55

John Jones, while he had

58:58

title defenses, was beating middleweights. So

59:01

he basically is like, oh yeah, so now he's

59:03

just gonna be a heavyweight and beat another middleweight,

59:05

which Alex Pereira at least

59:07

was. But I think looking

59:09

at his size and his stature, I feel

59:12

like he's probably better at 205 at this point. He's just

59:14

more of a light heavyweight than a middleweight and the fact

59:17

that he made 185 is crazy. But

59:20

Jed also said, look, from a

59:22

prize-fighting perspective, John's doing the right

59:25

thing. There's no doubt that John

59:28

Jones versus Alex Pereira is a bigger fight than

59:30

John Jones versus Tom Aspidal. It's just the nature

59:32

of the beast. It's 100% true. Pereira is a

59:34

star. John

59:37

is a star. Tom is not a

59:39

star just yet. He is a star in

59:41

the UK. He's starting to get

59:43

over around the world, starting to get over here

59:46

in the US, but he's not there yet. So

59:50

he's not wrong there. But the

59:52

fight just makes no sense. It

59:54

makes no sense. And

59:57

I think John... talked

1:00:00

about this fight with DC and

1:00:02

says, I don't think it lasts

1:00:04

two and a half minutes. He thinks

1:00:07

John just tackles him and submits him and

1:00:11

probably not wrong with that fight on paper. It's

1:00:13

just, I'm just not that intrigued by it. I

1:00:16

mean, it would be, you know,

1:00:18

three, four more fights. Cool.

1:00:21

Prayer just goes in and beats Yuri

1:00:23

again and beats Ankaliyeth, it beats a

1:00:26

round tree, cleans out the top

1:00:28

of that division. You want to go up to fight

1:00:30

John Jones? Go ahead. Go

1:00:32

for it. But right now,

1:00:34

if John looks like we're going to get John

1:00:36

and Seapei. After

1:00:41

that fight, it's not Pereira, it's Tom. That's

1:00:43

the one. But

1:00:46

Tom also has to do what he needs to do too.

1:00:49

We don't know who he's going to fight yet. I assume

1:00:51

it's going to be Curtis Blades, but

1:00:54

it could be Cyril Gaun. I don't know. But

1:00:57

if Tom fights Curtis Blades and

1:01:00

they do that again, like

1:01:02

Curtis Blades could be Tom Aspital. I

1:01:06

don't think I'd pick him to do it, but he could. I think

1:01:08

he matches up pretty decent. So

1:01:13

he's got to get through that before we even start

1:01:15

talking about John. So yeah,

1:01:17

John's playing some seeds, just being

1:01:19

a prize fighter. But I

1:01:21

get where Jed's kind of coming from. When

1:01:23

he got Tom sitting there as the interim champion,

1:01:25

like why even book that fight? And we all

1:01:27

have that same reaction. When they

1:01:30

book the fight with Pavlitz for the interim heavyweight

1:01:32

title, why are we doing this? Just

1:01:35

make it for the actual belt. And

1:01:37

now we're in this position. And

1:01:39

you can sit there and blame John

1:01:42

Jones for how he's handling it,

1:01:44

but it ain't his fault. Point the finger at the

1:01:46

UFC. We knew this was going

1:01:48

to be a problem, and it is a problem. Daniel,

1:01:53

go ahead. We'll take Daniel Henderson and then Florence Sniper,

1:01:55

then we got to go. Go ahead, Daniel. Hey,

1:01:58

heck of a morning to you, Mike. Just

1:02:01

want to fire up just a couple

1:02:03

quick questions just for St. Louis card

1:02:05

and just your predictions, man How you

1:02:07

see the fights going just Bruce Leroy

1:02:09

Alex Casares versus Sean Woodson Obviously,

1:02:11

I mean Bruce Leroy been in the UFC for

1:02:13

so long Sean Woodson, I feel like it's obviously

1:02:16

coming up and being in St. Louis That's gonna

1:02:18

be pretty cool to see for his backyard and

1:02:20

and then just the fight before that just just

1:02:22

Cortez Acosta versus Robelis to Spain I mean, does

1:02:24

it make it past 18 seconds? What's this looking

1:02:26

like? Just want to see what you're thinking Mike.

1:02:28

Thanks, man I

1:02:32

Mean I think you all know what I'm thinking about that fight Think

1:02:35

rebellious is gonna kick him in the face. That's

1:02:38

it. He's a knockabout quick Gotta

1:02:42

knock him out quick Just

1:02:45

what's gonna happen and then Rebelis

1:02:47

will turn around he'll go to Perth and he'll

1:02:50

fight tight to Ibiza because that's exactly what they

1:02:52

should do Casares

1:02:54

of what's is an interesting one. I understand

1:02:56

why what's in is a minus 218 favorite

1:03:01

if the 25 at the $20

1:03:03

ferry dropped the $20 bill in the ground said

1:03:05

you could only bet it on one of these

1:03:07

two guys I would probably bet it on Alex

1:03:11

Casares I Think

1:03:13

there's value there plus 180 for

1:03:15

a guy who's Been in this

1:03:18

spot many times and has come through many times and

1:03:21

I do think Sean's a good fighter and if it's

1:03:23

a straight pick and probably picking Sean but I

1:03:29

Serious has done it all man. He's been in there with

1:03:31

everybody and He's

1:03:33

played spoiler a lot. So I think it's

1:03:35

gonna be a really fascinating fight If

1:03:39

it gets to the ground it's gonna be real interesting We'll

1:03:43

see how we'll see how it goes that's definitely It's

1:03:47

definitely one of the like four or five fights on

1:03:49

the car where you're just like kind of really interested

1:03:52

to see what's gonna happen Here so that's

1:03:54

good one My

1:03:56

pick like for like minus one times

1:03:58

both ways and picking Sean Woodson, but

1:04:02

could I go without Casares and the MMA Fighting Staff

1:04:04

picks to try to be a little different? Because

1:04:07

I see a little value there. I might just do it. I don't

1:04:09

know yet. Anderson, go ahead. Hey,

1:04:12

Mike, heck of a morning to you. Great

1:04:14

show, as always. And I

1:04:17

just had a couple of quick ideas. And

1:04:20

I want to hear what you thought of them. And

1:04:22

I know you talked about Jose Aldo and

1:04:25

how PS Elator needs to make that

1:04:27

move and and sign him. And I

1:04:29

think that's such a gimme, you

1:04:32

know, especially because they're trying to

1:04:34

build that 135 division. But

1:04:36

I think in addition to that, what they should

1:04:38

do is pitch him to be kind of the

1:04:41

face of their like, minor

1:04:44

league system for South America,

1:04:46

how they're trying to

1:04:48

make Francis the leader for this

1:04:50

PFL Africa. And I know

1:04:52

they're trying to build one in South America

1:04:54

as well. And who better than the king

1:04:57

of Rio, you can make him like the

1:04:59

king of PFL South America, you know, and

1:05:01

I feel like that's something Aldo

1:05:03

would appreciate as well. And like,

1:05:05

who could who could question Aldo

1:05:07

as one of the leaders

1:05:09

of MMA from

1:05:11

that area. And I think

1:05:14

that would also set them up to find

1:05:16

that for other places, right? Like they could

1:05:18

find like a veteran

1:05:21

person to be the leader

1:05:23

for PFL Europe or PFL

1:05:25

North America. So

1:05:27

I was wondering, do you how do you like

1:05:29

that idea? And if that

1:05:31

was ever to happen, who would

1:05:33

be the face of like a

1:05:36

PFL North America or a PFL

1:05:38

Europe? So that's just my

1:05:40

idea. And then one other quick idea I

1:05:42

had was can an

1:05:44

ear he has such a weird career, his

1:05:47

whole career has been strange. At

1:05:49

this point, I feel like he should move off

1:05:51

to 205. He's played with so many different weights.

1:05:53

And it's never going to happen for him right

1:05:56

now where he's at, like nobody even thinks about

1:05:58

him. So why not? try and

1:06:00

just gain some size, fight someone like

1:06:02

Yann and I don't know,

1:06:05

he could probably do fine at that division. So that's

1:06:07

another idea. Have a great rest of your show. He

1:06:10

fought there for a while. He fought a

1:06:12

heavyweight before he

1:06:14

dropped to 185. So he's

1:06:17

been there and he's been there already.

1:06:19

So he's experienced all those weight classes.

1:06:22

So yeah,

1:06:24

I guess what he likes is where he finds himself

1:06:28

to be the most competitive, I guess. And

1:06:31

who knows what's gonna happen? Who

1:06:34

knows what happens at middleweight at

1:06:37

this point? So yeah, he's kind of the forgotten man.

1:06:39

He's almost like the Curtis blades of the division, but

1:06:42

Curtis might get his shot and Jared has

1:06:45

had his shot, but maybe he finds his

1:06:47

way back. He just becomes undeniable. I mean,

1:06:50

that's kind of what he's gonna have to do. He's just gonna have

1:06:52

to keep winning and winning and winning until he's the

1:06:54

last man standing before

1:06:58

getting another title shot. The

1:07:00

Jose Aldo thing. If

1:07:03

PFL, I'm telling you, I'm gonna say this and

1:07:05

I stand by it and I will continue to

1:07:07

stand by it. If PFL does not sign Jose

1:07:09

Aldo, it is an epic fail. It

1:07:12

is an epic fail. It is a misstep

1:07:14

of epic proportions if they do not sign

1:07:16

him. Plain

1:07:20

and simple. If he resigns to

1:07:22

the UFC or

1:07:25

goes anywhere else, it is a

1:07:27

big loss for PFL. They need to sign him.

1:07:29

They have to do it. And the

1:07:32

way you look at this is it

1:07:35

doesn't matter what it costs. You

1:07:38

offer him something that you UFC is you're not

1:07:40

gonna match. I said two million a fight. Go

1:07:43

three if you need to. The

1:07:46

ambassadorship thing, like sure.

1:07:50

But here's the thing. Nobody

1:07:52

cares about any of that. For

1:07:56

some reason, like they put this out there and they're like,

1:07:59

we're going to this area. this area in this area

1:08:01

and this guy's gonna be the face of this area

1:08:03

and we're gonna do PFL Africa. Like PFL Africa is

1:08:05

a big deal and you have Francis there, he's been

1:08:07

trying to get an event in Africa

1:08:09

forever, like that kind of makes sense. But

1:08:12

just adding these different territories and different

1:08:15

regions and stuff like, it doesn't

1:08:17

seem like anyone cares about any of

1:08:19

that. And

1:08:21

sure, like Jose is a great ambassador.

1:08:24

Now if you're gonna do like, who's the

1:08:26

face of those

1:08:30

other regions, like you got Dan Hardy, I think

1:08:32

he's perfect for Europe. You got

1:08:34

Randy Torr, I think he's perfect for North

1:08:36

America. You don't need

1:08:38

to overthink this one. But you

1:08:41

just need Jose in there just to

1:08:43

be like, hey, we got Jose. It's

1:08:45

a big name. Just

1:08:48

think of the fights you can make with this guy now. Sound

1:08:51

like a four fight deal. Throw them

1:08:53

in there with Patchy. Throw them

1:08:55

in there with Pitbull, throw them in there with Aaron Pico.

1:08:59

Like there's just so many fun ideas that

1:09:02

you could do with Jose Aldo. They

1:09:05

have to sign them. They have to do it.

1:09:07

This is a must sign for them. So

1:09:12

they bet, I mean, conversations better be

1:09:15

happening already if

1:09:17

you're PFL. They cannot let

1:09:20

this man go. They have to do something.

1:09:22

They have to do something. Because

1:09:26

there's just been a

1:09:29

lack of interest in their product right now.

1:09:32

It's stunning to me. I mean,

1:09:34

just stunning. Nobody

1:09:38

cares. And they

1:09:40

just have this mentality of like, we're already

1:09:42

there guys. We're the co-leader. We just need

1:09:44

to keep doing things that everyone's going to

1:09:47

watch and care and know what we're doing.

1:09:49

No. No,

1:09:51

you don't have stars. You

1:09:54

don't have any names that bring you to the

1:09:56

table right now. You're building a couple, but

1:09:59

in such a weird way. way. They I

1:10:04

mean, they have this needs to be such a

1:10:06

massive year, they need to sign everybody. And

1:10:09

Jose Aldo is at the top of the list, if they lose

1:10:11

out on him. It's a we

1:10:16

do the airing of grievances, the letter grade at the

1:10:18

end of the year, PFL will

1:10:20

lose an entire letter grade if they don't

1:10:22

sign Jose Aldo. In

1:10:25

my opinion, this is a no brainer. Go

1:10:28

do it. Get whatever he

1:10:31

wants. Whatever. For on Cyber

1:10:33

God. Hey, heck of a morning. Just

1:10:35

wanted to follow up on what you were saying

1:10:38

earlier about the whole heavyweight division situation, where

1:10:40

john jones not fighting Tom Aspinall.

1:10:43

I've seen some people tweeting out saying

1:10:46

that john is, you know, duck and

1:10:48

Tom and, you know, just stuff

1:10:50

similar to that. I don't necessarily like I

1:10:52

see where they're coming from. But I personally

1:10:54

don't fully agree. I think

1:10:57

john going for legacy, which is a

1:10:59

smart move, because, you know,

1:11:01

steep A's older, he hasn't won since like,

1:11:03

I think 2020 hasn't fought in general since

1:11:05

2021. And

1:11:07

I believe he might get paid more to fight

1:11:09

steep A if I had to guess so it

1:11:12

makes sense from john's Jones perspective

1:11:14

to take that fight. While

1:11:17

on the other hand, the fan in me, I

1:11:19

really wish john would fight Tom Aspinall because I

1:11:21

don't think we're gonna end up getting that fight.

1:11:23

Like I know john said, or maybe

1:11:25

he didn't say this, but he hinted at it happening

1:11:28

after he fights and beats steep A, but I

1:11:30

personally don't think that fight happens. So you

1:11:34

know, I as much as I want

1:11:36

it, I know it's not going to happen. But also I

1:11:38

wanted your thoughts on the whole defending

1:11:40

your interim belt situation. Do you think

1:11:42

that's gonna come to an end

1:11:44

in the near future? Or do you think

1:11:46

the UFC are going to continue to, you know, make

1:11:48

fighters who win the interim belt, defend

1:11:51

their interim belt like they did with Tony and

1:11:53

like they're probably going to do with Tom Aspinall.

1:11:55

That's all Mike. to

1:12:00

head and browse well, while Dominic Cruz

1:12:02

was injured. But

1:12:04

like, my whole problem with this

1:12:07

is that they

1:12:10

just did the interim belt in this division

1:12:14

when the same fucking thing happened

1:12:16

at light heavyweight and

1:12:18

both champions got stripped of the tiles

1:12:21

or vacated, quote unquote. Why

1:12:25

didn't John just vacate? He's

1:12:28

hurt. Couldn't headline. Couldn't defend

1:12:30

the title. Just vacate the belt. Everybody

1:12:34

else did it. Like I, I know

1:12:36

John's, you know, big star and everything. You

1:12:43

know, I think John's going to make

1:12:46

the same amount of money regardless. At

1:12:49

this point, if he fights Tom

1:12:51

or whatever, maybe he gets

1:12:53

like, maybe it's some extra pay-per-view buys

1:12:56

with Steve Bay, but John's the draw here, man.

1:12:58

Like he's the draw. And

1:13:03

honestly, I just, this

1:13:05

whole thing that, you

1:13:07

know, this is for legacy. How

1:13:09

does beating Steve Bay Mietrich, who's in

1:13:11

his forties, who hasn't fought in almost

1:13:14

four years, how does that

1:13:17

change John's legacy beating Steve

1:13:19

Bay? Do you look

1:13:21

at John differently if he beats Steve

1:13:24

Bay? I just

1:13:27

don't see it. Like, I don't

1:13:29

know how this does. It

1:13:31

doesn't hurt his legacy, but this is

1:13:34

boosted to a certain degree. No,

1:13:36

I think just

1:13:39

be honest, man. You're trying to like

1:13:41

your prize fighting. Steve

1:13:43

Bay is a bigger name than Tom Aspinall. It's

1:13:47

an easier fight than Tom Aspinall. No disrespect. It's

1:13:49

just the way that it is. You're

1:13:52

prize fighting. And I get

1:13:54

it, but just be honest about it. This

1:13:57

ain't legacy. You want

1:13:59

legacy? The legacy fight to

1:14:01

me is fucking Tom Aspinall.

1:14:04

That's the legacy fight. That

1:14:06

says that John Jones retired as the best heavyweight

1:14:09

in the world, when in reality,

1:14:11

most people do not believe that is true right

1:14:13

now because they feel like Tom Aspinall is the

1:14:15

best heavyweight in the world. Most

1:14:18

of us in our rankings have Tom Aspinall ranked

1:14:20

above John Jones. That's

1:14:22

the legacy fight. That does something for

1:14:25

his legacy. He's not just

1:14:27

a goat. He's not just the greatest lightweight heavyweight of all

1:14:29

time. He goes and beats Tom Aspinall

1:14:32

and retires. He retires as the best heavyweight in

1:14:34

the world. Where if he goes and beats Steve

1:14:36

Bay and retires, I

1:14:39

don't know if he gets that same accolade. So

1:14:44

legacy to me would be fighting Tom. That's

1:14:47

the one. But if

1:14:49

you just want big fights, you want to

1:14:51

be a prize fighter, cool. When

1:14:53

he says Alex Pereira is a bigger fight

1:14:55

than Tom Aspinall, he's correct. He's not lying

1:14:58

about that. But

1:15:00

this whole thing, I got to cement my

1:15:02

legacy by beating Steve Bay. How? What

1:15:05

does that do? To me, I

1:15:08

won't come out of that being like, oh, you

1:15:10

know what? John's legacy just went up 10 notches

1:15:12

because he beat 42 year old

1:15:14

Steve Bay Miacic. No, I wouldn't say

1:15:16

that. What

1:15:19

I thought was going to happen happened. And

1:15:21

John won. So

1:15:24

that's the way I sort of view the whole

1:15:26

situation at this point. Like legacy to me. What

1:15:29

like, who else do we get to do?

1:15:31

Like, who else is coming back? Like

1:15:34

Francis would have had a

1:15:36

legacy fight. That's a fucking legacy fight.

1:15:41

Cain Velasquez would be a legacy fight.

1:15:43

I mean, we all know that's probably not

1:15:45

happening. But like Cain in this prime, like that would

1:15:48

be a legacy fight. Steve

1:15:53

Bay, four years off. Hasn't

1:15:56

won a fight in a long ass time. I

1:16:01

just think whatever steam that fight had is just, it

1:16:04

couldn't be more gone. The

1:16:08

only way we lose even more steam is if

1:16:10

they book it again and something happens and it

1:16:12

doesn't happen. Then it's just like,

1:16:14

all right, enough is enough. But

1:16:17

no one wants to see that fight. John

1:16:19

wants it. The UFC loves it for some reason. Steve

1:16:23

Bay obviously wants it. And God bless

1:16:26

Steve Bay. If I'm Steve Bay, I ain't

1:16:28

fighting anybody else but John. You're

1:16:31

going to come back and do it again. You fight John

1:16:33

or you don't fight at all. I think he'd be happy

1:16:35

either way. But

1:16:38

I just don't agree that this changes John's

1:16:40

legacy if he beats Steve Bay. It's just

1:16:42

the same to me

1:16:46

anyways. But all right, we

1:16:48

are done. Thank you very much. A little bit of

1:16:50

a note here. We

1:16:56

lost a fight for UFC St. Louis, everybody. It's

1:16:58

official. Jared Gooden

1:17:01

unable to weigh in. His

1:17:04

fight with Kevin Gersett canceled. So

1:17:07

that fight no longer happening at

1:17:10

UFC St. Louis tomorrow. So

1:17:12

we are now down to 12 fights.

1:17:19

Nice tight 12 fights. Just

1:17:22

what we like. So that fight

1:17:24

no longer happening. And

1:17:27

stick down mayfighting.com for all the updated

1:17:29

weigh in results, all that. Preview show

1:17:31

1pm Eastern. Myself, Jed, AK, we'll talk

1:17:34

about UFC St. Louis. We'll answer your

1:17:36

questions and more. So back here Tuesday,

1:17:38

10am Eastern. We'll do it again. Enjoy

1:17:40

the rest of your Friday. Have a heck of a morning

1:17:43

everybody. Thanks

1:17:54

for watching. I'll see you next week. Bye.

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