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1:34

Let us say hello to the former Invicta

1:37

interim featherweight champion, 6-fight UFC vet,

1:39

one-time UFC title challenger. She's now

1:41

very, very, very busy these days

1:43

with her YouTube channel, work for

1:46

ESPN with the UFC, UFC Fight

1:48

Camp, even shocking some folks

1:50

that move your premiers with her bag work.

1:52

The list goes on and on for Megan

1:54

Anderson who joins us ahead of

1:56

a big UFC 301 this Saturday. Ill

2:00

I doing. Good! Thank you for having

2:02

me. Absolutely it's it's. been

2:04

a minute. Since. We've last had

2:06

a conversation and I was trying to

2:08

like look back actually had a google

2:10

it this morning. It was before you

2:13

fought normal Dumont in February of twenty

2:15

twenty which obvious that when his aides

2:17

pretty damn well considering how well she's

2:19

done. I have like so

2:21

many people keep like just

2:23

sending me messages or like

2:25

commenting on myself like oddly

2:27

enough because at the time

2:29

like everyone's like oh. It.

2:32

Didn't mean anything. that was how fast find

2:34

the have theorized that like now that she's

2:36

had a. You. Know a lot of

2:38

really great when since then efforts I

2:40

guess it's a swell of like. So

2:42

she wasn't as bad as when I

2:45

thought have like you said she was

2:47

to the now she's good works now

2:49

I'd I have. I have

2:51

a lot or effects and or by and

2:53

sees the seeds looks phenomenal. Am really excited

2:55

to see or advance away I say. She

2:57

finally was able to make the weights at

2:59

the I know that that was like kind

3:01

of an issue for her over the years,

3:03

but she seems to have that figured out.

3:05

She's got it down pat. I'm.

3:07

Excited to see her journey have been wiped. Out

3:10

in are you know what's changed her lot

3:13

strange for you since that conversation has are

3:15

like how different has like ben bore. The.

3:18

Median anders of us today compared to the

3:20

median anderson in February. Twenty twenty knocking on

3:22

the door of the A world though is

3:24

about to change due to Coburg. Yeah

3:27

yo! what's crazy is that that was

3:29

the Norfolk pod and it was the

3:31

last thought that they had fans at

3:33

before everything set down because I know

3:35

it kind of such downs but they

3:38

still had a a preset with a

3:40

part in Brazil but they didn't allow

3:42

fans because it was already books or

3:44

the fight is already there but they

3:46

didn't allow fan so my was the

3:48

last one before. Everything

3:50

when sit essentially spun

3:53

around, things have significantly

3:55

changed in. The. Last

3:57

four years that's to saw on. In

4:00

March to say and I'd like to think

4:02

for the better. Ah, I'm. So.

4:05

Yeah, Change. change. Careers for

4:07

out my contracts. Didn't

4:10

sign a new ones. I'm.

4:13

Decided to kind of his. It's a

4:15

little bit my desire to compete wasn't

4:17

das my desire to train fi cut

4:20

way to get his who sees this

4:22

was a mass. I'm. I

4:24

had to get my nose six cousins

4:26

in birds in so many times and

4:28

the pain from that knock allied Loki

4:30

traumatized, nice arms and I didn't want

4:32

to get a feel for it. Should

4:34

again. so bizarre. but now I'd I'd

4:36

very much enjoy what I'm doing now

4:38

instead of fighting. That's. Rude

4:41

and most oh it's all about well

4:43

we do a be of see three

4:45

a one coming off, then I'm one

4:47

of the guys in the space. I

4:49

would say I'm pretty positive critical, certainly

4:51

where I need to be, but positive

4:53

overall. And I'll preface this by saying

4:55

you have seats Real One was an

4:57

unfair position to begin with. Having

4:59

to follow to ninety eight than two, Ninety

5:01

Nine And then. He. Is just

5:03

pure ridiculous. This that you have c three

5:06

hundred was like nothing could measure up. No

5:08

matter what this card looks like, it's never

5:10

going to be as good as three hundred.

5:12

Not to mention. One. Next month as

5:14

gonna look like with Rio two and then

5:16

Connors coming back at three or this compared

5:18

to most pay per views. not used to

5:20

what we're seeing. honestly however I do things

5:22

for those who do buy it. It's gonna

5:24

be a fun watch. Get a lot of

5:26

Brazilians fighting at home can a hard crowd,

5:28

interesting title fight main event which will get

5:30

into we get the really turn of Josie

5:32

although your thoughts in the card itself and

5:34

the sort of. Unfortunate. Position

5:36

is in with the timing of it. Yet

5:39

now I one hundred percent agree with you in

5:41

the fact that. Based. On like

5:43

the last three paces use and how

5:46

stats top to bottom that be an

5:48

end is in a very. Unfortunate.

5:52

Position. But I mean when you

5:54

look never sick laden, the main card

5:56

rikers us apart. The people a painful

5:58

when you look at though by specifically

6:00

it does a. Lot of really

6:03

good match shots and. There's

6:05

some sessions us as new come off like

6:08

new generation type five. we have a fresh

6:10

name and Steve Earle said fighting for the

6:12

title which I feel like the flyweight division

6:14

has kind of been in a position of

6:17

the last couple years that only like. Two

6:20

or three people have been fighting for. The.

6:22

Bell Did she die? It's been figure radio.

6:25

Ah, Marino

6:27

rival. And. Are

6:29

Now that and toes Is he it

6:32

Like it? He's beaten them all. So

6:34

who is? There are a lot that

6:36

we have a freshly name. Is it

6:38

the rights was at the right sites.

6:41

Amazed. That's another question considering the rankings,

6:43

but I see as a whole I

6:45

I'm really intrigued with particularly this main

6:48

card. It's as I mean. Look

6:50

what of the fi said I really excited

6:52

about is Anthony Smith vs these or but

6:54

Trina. I. Think that is such a great

6:57

fight that I think a lot of fans are kind

6:59

of sleeping on. Yards.

7:02

As is trying to prove to everybody who's doubt

7:04

that he has and losses that he could still

7:06

go and beat overture you know called him out

7:08

and as is that gonna want to make an

7:10

example of him and everybody else that just feels

7:13

say you know what if I win a fight

7:15

a duel bivens going to caught and respect because.

7:18

It's the way to go. Rise in my wants to shut

7:20

Those people have. More. And I would

7:22

say that Anthony traditionally does

7:24

well and these type of

7:26

fights he rises to the

7:29

occasion if he will com.

7:31

As you know, because it allows him to

7:33

kind of put the ship on his shoulder

7:36

feel like hey, I'm not oh so not

7:38

lost like it's a lot of people. You

7:41

know the have said about him

7:43

over his last couple performances by

7:45

I'm. Like. He he generally tend

7:48

to do very well in these type of five

7:50

spots. Now. When. I

7:52

I did a lot of our. Case.

7:54

Study on the top a trainer because he fought

7:56

tyson. Pattern and obviously being

7:59

asylum. Covered him on

8:01

our our Asean so

8:04

and. Veto

8:07

is a very very tough

8:09

athletes to figure out. He's

8:11

strong. she is Matthew for

8:13

the white cloth. his athletic.

8:15

he is explosive. He has

8:17

the cardio he doesn't he

8:19

know he doesn't tend to

8:21

slow down like his pace

8:23

doesn't slow is the fight

8:25

goes on armed. she's got

8:27

food striking I would say

8:29

like he striking is probably.

8:32

As. Good and still developing. He he.

8:35

I don't think we've seen. He

8:37

is the ceiling there at all.

8:39

But then he also has the

8:41

ability to wrestle and grapple. And

8:43

you know, is that Leahy. So

8:45

well rounded that. It's

8:47

it's. Gary. The pathway to

8:49

beat him. But. Knowing.

8:54

The pathway and executing. When.

8:56

You get in there very different. Yeah.

8:59

His his photos and Pedro was.

9:02

The. Complete opposite of what I bought some by was

9:04

going to be on paper Races shrine. We saw

9:06

it as like these you're just going crash and

9:08

somebody is gonna fall on the pursue minutes and

9:11

now we saw it all in that place. Know

9:14

ends, At.

9:16

I don't know if a part

9:18

of that was sued to. Tyson's

9:21

like sought not being in it

9:23

anymore. You. Know it's as he

9:25

retired after that fi and a lot of

9:27

people didn't see that coming and he is

9:29

now switch to boxing but I feel like

9:31

you know how much of that was Tyson's

9:34

is. Not. Loving.

9:36

Ever may anymore. Ya. To

9:38

me and how much of that was like man,

9:41

I'm just gonna. Whatever

9:43

happens happens but lights.

9:46

Season. Desire old will to win

9:48

the wasn't as strong as I say when

9:50

he first started in the U of See

9:52

because he's he's already made up his mind

9:54

before going into that fi that this is

9:56

going to be his last. Fight.

9:59

In the of see. Though I don't know

10:01

that could have played a third

10:03

deaths. But I also don't want

10:05

to downplay Petrino performance because he

10:07

sat down. In. Our he

10:09

sat down Tyson striking which the one is

10:11

is one of his best assets are you

10:14

know he was able to execute a game

10:16

plan that had a lot of success and

10:18

so I don't want to. Take.

10:21

That away from him either. Guys.

10:23

Says diverse, smart calculated profile Madison if

10:26

I was not even all that competitive

10:28

based on the gameplay mad that between

10:30

are brought to the apex that day.

10:32

But imagine things that we didn't see

10:35

coming. And you mentioned Sieber say didn't

10:37

you ask the question, is he the

10:39

right guy And I've been saying. That.

10:42

Is Elissa the of see. Meritocracy.

10:45

Is there? Every so often there's

10:47

obviously the star power conversation. But.

10:49

The next best thing in terms of getting

10:52

big fights. Your. Best friend is

10:54

availability and Steve or sag right place

10:56

at the right time. And

10:58

toes and user gotta fight on this card

11:00

he was available is coming off a knockout

11:02

when it was crazy about all this. Is

11:05

you have fighters like the Law Mohamad

11:07

Him robbed Wallace Billie Undies long winning

11:10

streaks. They've been screaming for their chance

11:12

to fight for a Bell for years.

11:14

Some of the fans like come on

11:16

what else they need to do and

11:19

Stever Sag wins three fights and could

11:21

be you Fc champion before either is

11:23

even announced of five were respective belt

11:26

in there when classes it is wild

11:28

it's crazy like yeah what's your a

11:30

but on top of that. Everyone.

11:33

When the Sun athletes are come on at

11:35

penthouses gonna run the sued over the stuff

11:37

to be competitive look a good pinto she

11:39

looks. what do you say to somebody who

11:41

says. You. Know like pinto as is going

11:43

to run the sued over or segues only the number

11:46

ten guy. What are we doing here. Well.

11:48

I think the reason why that narrative is

11:50

the way that it is is because we

11:52

haven't seen much of assets. He. He

11:54

got three sides, me a few actually went

11:56

back and of recent the two. people

11:59

that have had

12:01

similar instances. It was Prochaska

12:05

had two fights in

12:07

the UFC before fighting for

12:09

a title and Alex Pereira

12:11

had three Before fighting

12:13

for a title and look what happened with both

12:15

those guys you know and I

12:19

Think obviously different circumstances But

12:23

the narrative is like we just haven't

12:26

seen Steve tested Right, and

12:28

I think a lot of the reason

12:30

why he was given this opportunity big

12:32

part was recency bias He fought on

12:34

the same heart card as Muhammad Makayev.

12:36

I know he's been campaigning. He's undefeated

12:38

He wants a title shot. However, if

12:41

you are a matchmaker and you look

12:43

at what? Steve Erseg

12:46

fight against Matt Schnell and you

12:48

look at Muhammad Makayev fight You're

12:50

gonna go with Steve Erseg because

12:52

he got the finish. He looked great. It

12:54

was exciting that's what the fans want to

12:57

see and while Muhammad

12:59

Makayev is a phenomenal fighter and

13:03

He does deserve a title shot

13:05

with that performance for me. There

13:08

was more questions Then

13:10

you know because he slowed he

13:13

guessed he wasn't as Invincible

13:15

as we'd seen him to date

13:17

and and that's what that's a guy like

13:19

Alex Perez. That's what he does He's a

13:22

veteran. He's hard to put away He's

13:24

hard to fight and I think it just

13:26

showed the that Makayev

13:29

needs more time Developing before getting a title

13:31

shot. I think he'll get there He just

13:33

needed more time and so that is the

13:35

kind of the reason why I said I

13:38

feel got this over somebody like Muhammad

13:41

Makayev and man

13:45

Pantoja has looked phenomenal like

13:48

he is He's

13:50

relentless mess to win

13:52

his mindset once he you know kind

13:54

of went away Started

13:56

working on his conditioning, working on his

13:59

cardio and. And and financing his

14:01

game to work for him. He

14:03

has looks exceptional over his last

14:06

couple fights. And. I

14:08

is is a tough. Is. A

14:10

tough fight. The steve one hundred

14:12

percent. but I. Think. People

14:15

on discounting. Steve's.

14:17

A lot and I think the only reason

14:19

is because he hasn't been tested in the

14:21

eyes of the U F C. Sounds like.

14:25

He. Is very well rounded. He

14:27

has the striking advantage. He.

14:31

Is a national gold medal Russell. So.

14:34

He has the ability to scramble. He's

14:36

not going to settle. He's not going

14:38

to accept being put on his back.

14:40

He's going to scramble his globes, be

14:43

comfortable in those positions, arm, and he's.

14:46

Got. Good. You know he's got a good

14:48

get back up game. If it does hit

14:50

the bad it is He understands that was

14:52

his best. Asset. Is his striking

14:54

and we interviewed him a couple I would

14:56

say like about a month ago and he

14:58

said look a lot of fight is. The

15:01

day. He. The try to strike

15:04

with him or. And

15:06

and they avoid the grappling. He's like I'm

15:08

not scared to grapple with him. He's like

15:10

everyone thought I was a grappling before the

15:13

myself. But so ah. The I

15:15

think that could play key. It could be

15:17

very much as he's gonna fuck around to

15:19

find out about. he's not. Be. On

15:21

the level of ten toes up. but he

15:24

could find out like a weight Like I

15:26

can say here. This is going to be

15:28

able to open up. A lot of my sight seeing

15:30

more because I don't have to see him

15:32

taking me down and may not be a

15:34

bigger buckle. How.

15:36

Much how much with that you think his

15:38

can being so unknown notches to like them.

15:40

Affleck pinto back to sit there and be

15:42

like oh who's this guy Me to prepare

15:44

for a market A watch any of the spell.

15:47

Mccovey listen to my coaches like you know that's

15:49

not gonna happen but. Penthouse.

15:51

of the guys he's fighting marino and roy

15:53

ball and all these other guys married allows

15:55

for as in the past two tons of

15:58

footage and sample sizes left and right jump

16:00

on UFC Fight Pass and watch 35

16:02

fights combined of those fighters. But, you

16:05

know, Steve Ursa, I was going to call it Viddy

16:07

Siggs because that's what we've been calling him on the

16:09

site. It's like Steve Ursa

16:11

and then we found out his middle name

16:13

was Vincenzo. And now we've transformed him into

16:15

like this completely different character. But that's, I

16:18

love that. How

16:20

much does the unknown sort of factor into

16:22

this fight? I

16:24

mean, it definitely plays into Steve Saver. That's the show.

16:27

Because I mean, not a lot of footage

16:29

to watch, particularly at the high

16:31

level. But you

16:34

can't think too much into that.

16:36

Because at the end of the

16:38

day, like watching footage, while

16:40

it can help you prepare for

16:43

certain tendencies, that type of stuff, at the

16:45

end of the day, you shouldn't be

16:49

solely focused on what they're

16:51

doing. You need to execute your own game plan.

16:53

Like, the opportunities are going

16:55

to present themselves, you just need to

16:57

execute in the moment. And

17:00

that is going that's a fighter by fighter,

17:02

you know, basing like everybody

17:04

reacts differently. Some people don't pull the

17:06

trigger. Like Brandon Royvall, I feel like

17:08

he didn't pull the trigger until the

17:10

fourth round against Pantosia. Like he wasn't

17:12

able to figure it out. And once

17:14

he did, it was a little bit

17:16

too late. I

17:19

think that's the beauty for Steve is he

17:21

does have a lot of that footage of

17:23

like, oh, when you do put the

17:25

pressure on him, you do put the pace, you

17:27

do put the volume on

17:30

Pantosia, he, you

17:32

know, you're able to have success. Just

17:35

these guys weren't able to do it from the get go. So

17:39

that's great for Steve, obviously. Now

17:41

for Pantosia, it's going to be

17:43

about closing

17:45

the mid range. Like he knows where he does

17:48

his best work, the mid range, the power overhand,

17:51

closing the distance, grappling, scrambling. And one thing

17:53

that I think that a lot of people

18:00

not notice about

18:03

Pantoja is like his ability,

18:06

whether he's fresh or whether he's

18:08

tired, to complete a takedown is

18:10

exceptional. Like

18:13

he is noticeably exhausted. Look

18:15

at the Brenner-Maraino fight,

18:18

the one where he won the bout. He

18:20

was exhausted. He

18:23

got him down almost every

18:26

single time. He finds ways

18:28

to win his grappling and his

18:30

wrestling for MMA to for his

18:32

game is one of the

18:34

best in my opinion and

18:36

particularly in that division.

18:39

So he just needs to go out

18:41

there and be like, I know what I'm good at. I

18:43

know where I'm good at. I'm going to take

18:45

it there and no matter what, I'll

18:48

adjust. Like

18:50

the closer we get to this fight, the more

18:52

intriguing it gets for me. I've been intrigued from

18:54

Jump Street just because it's almost like Steve

18:57

has, and I can say because

18:59

I know he feels like his dream is to

19:01

be UFC champion. So he's obviously putting that pressure on

19:03

himself. Like if I don't get it, like how much

19:05

longer will it take me to get back here? So

19:08

I have to take advantage of this opportunity. But most

19:10

people feel like he's playing with house money here that

19:12

if he loses, not the end of the world and

19:14

that all the pressure is on Pantoja. I don't know

19:16

if that's true or not. I don't

19:19

know. I don't feel like the pressure is really on

19:21

either of them. Because

19:23

like, look, if Steve goes out there and

19:25

he comes up short, listen,

19:27

this is your fourth fight in the UFC. You

19:30

go back, you fight

19:33

the guys that you skipped in the top 10.

19:35

Like there's a lot of fights there for you.

19:37

You know, another couple fights and you'll be

19:39

right back there. I would say like, and

19:43

then even for

19:45

Pantoja, I don't

19:47

even feel like

19:49

if he wants to put more pressure on himself,

19:51

he can do that. If that helps him With

19:54

rising to the occasion. Yeah, I'm all

19:56

for that. But I Don't feel like

19:59

there should be. Any pressure on

20:01

him Anyway, it's because Steve as

20:03

a legitimate threats. Like. He

20:05

should be taking him seriously. And

20:07

I mean as every champion does,

20:09

defending their belts, there is some

20:11

element of pressure to perform and

20:13

considered a when to continue being

20:15

the champion sites that Gabi the

20:17

element there. But I think that

20:19

since it's. Over. Leave.

20:23

Like exaggerated. If

20:25

he will. Diverse

20:27

A wins about business the most unlikely run

20:29

to a tight on your feet as your

20:32

must answer to biggest upset because you mentioned

20:34

your brass Good did in short order but

20:36

when he came over our by knew who

20:38

he was already because yeah gone so many

20:40

chaotic battles and rising and Alex Pereira like

20:42

we knew they were trying to do said

20:44

he must be as he by like even

20:46

Anderson Silva got a title shot after one.

20:48

You have sci fi but everybody knew who

20:50

Anderson Silva was, Steve or say Capella. Nowhere

20:52

to fight for have gotten less than a

20:55

year If you're not out there, Wins in

20:57

Rio of all places. On enemy territory.

20:59

Is this the most unlikely run due

21:01

to a title A you can remember

21:03

the of say. Oh. One hundred

21:05

percent and like. And that's

21:07

that's the beauty of this

21:09

game, right? Is you have

21:11

the ability to like saying

21:13

July like that I've won

21:15

opportunity back to yourself and

21:17

like. What are really what

21:19

I really love about Steve

21:21

is like he's so unassuming,

21:24

I see such a unassuming guy. he says

21:26

an unassuming like when you look at him

21:28

you don't expect him to be the savage

21:30

in the cage like he says. Such a

21:33

great great person's race You are been behind

21:35

the scenes and then he gets in there

21:37

and like. See. As

21:39

peace it all together. Like.

21:42

He has such a complete game like

21:44

obviously everyone's not perfect like he caught

21:46

like and very rarely do we ever

21:48

see i completely perfect fight us. But.

21:52

I mean is he tries to be

21:54

the best is continually improving. And I

21:56

mean. It's

21:58

I. Would. say it

22:00

would be like the great

22:02

like one of the craziest like

22:05

I Wouldn't say upset

22:07

but part definitely path to

22:10

winning a title Considering nobody really

22:12

knew he was until he knocked out

22:14

Matt Chanel and he's first by

22:16

the UFC. He took a short notice So

22:19

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22:22

I mean I think he's got a chance so it's it's

22:24

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then before that happens, we will see

24:59

the return to the Octagon of

25:02

the King of Rio. Jose Aldo competing in Rio

25:04

once again, he's going to face Jonathan Martinez, the

25:06

silence behind the violence, as I refer to him

25:08

as. This booking was a bit

25:10

out of left field, but Aldo

25:12

certainly gives a boost to things when

25:15

it comes to UFC 301, two incredible

25:17

leg kickers getting after it for potentially

25:19

15 minutes vegan. That's what I'm most

25:21

excited about. I

25:24

mean, Jose Aldo is like the king

25:26

of leg kicks. He changed

25:28

the sport I've ever made when it comes to

25:30

leg kicks. I remember what he

25:32

did to your eye favor back in WWE. His

25:35

leg was absolutely purple,

25:38

black and blue. I

25:43

am sure that

25:46

Martinez has adopted

25:48

a lot of what

25:51

Jose Aldo did during his

25:53

tenure to his Leg

25:55

kicking game. And That's what makes this

25:58

fight so intriguing. because they've. It's

26:00

a very similar. Type. Of

26:02

fight is that they liked his by

26:05

on the outside kick their opponent apart.

26:07

They like to. Make. It

26:09

look pretty. At

26:12

their range at their pays they're calling the

26:14

shots so I think is really going to

26:16

come down to who. Is

26:18

going to. Brush. Stars

26:20

and make adjustments. This

26:24

is probably the last summer going to see Josie

26:26

elbow fighting the of see a movie. Thought that

26:28

up to them Rob I did. You get tired

26:30

but you know it's it's pretty much out there

26:32

now. it's last by on his deal. he wants

26:34

to go do other things and unable to do

26:36

all those other things that you want to do

26:38

is gonna be free and clear from the of

26:40

sees But I mean who knows, maybe they'll say

26:42

hey go fi channel Malley will pay you floppy

26:44

jillion dollars in gonna do that. maybe on stick

26:46

around but you feel like this is the last

26:48

time you'll watch Joe. They are the compete in

26:50

the Usa. Probably. Yes,

26:53

I am. I think of the part of the reason

26:55

why he is coming out is cause it's rear. Ah

26:58

me him wanting to have one more

27:00

fight re I one will fight in

27:02

front of you know home crowd in

27:04

front of the Brazilian fans I think

27:07

plays a big factor into this and

27:09

I mean but he is. Not.

27:11

That assholes to those discoveries years older

27:13

than I have. Ah is

27:15

other odd it's oh. That

27:18

is he is old Insight years.

27:20

And how much. More

27:23

does he want to keep putting his and like. Him.

27:27

Sending. Most of his career at One

27:29

Forty Five. and now. And he's thirty seven

27:31

to One Thirty Five. Ah my Goddess. I

27:34

that that it hurts me like I

27:36

don't how hot it was to me

27:38

to thirty one forty five like I

27:41

can't even imagine like as he sat

27:43

didn't older the milestone wearing on you

27:45

for your exit have pounds by. Are

27:48

just so. You how much

27:50

of a competitors are? They elder with. Would.

27:54

I love to see him to city fighting

27:56

past this saw but I. Would

27:58

not be surprised if this is here's

28:00

last one, particularly in the of say.

28:03

Yeah. It's Emmys. Gotta be pretty interesting to

28:05

see where he could go next. Says you the

28:07

kind of money like. The. Be can see

28:10

the the world are throwing around right now

28:12

like writing see him fight their like it's

28:14

just crazy to think about and on the

28:16

other end. Of his the although his

28:18

longtime chef is one of the greatest of

28:20

all time in my opinion, and it's always

28:22

nice to have a name like that on

28:24

your resume. Five He has been a while,

28:26

so I think one of the intriguing facts,

28:28

but despite Meegeren. What? Does a

28:30

when do for Jonathan Martinez? especially in

28:32

this division that is stacked and loaded

28:34

with talent than one hundred thirty five

28:36

pounds. Yeah. That's

28:40

a great by so I mean it's. It's

28:44

commonplace. A

28:47

kind of feel bad in a way. it's

28:49

for. Jonathan. Particularly.

28:51

Because like. You

28:54

put him in this position that.

28:58

Aldo coming out a retirements. You.

29:00

To have to fight? Probably somebody. who that

29:03

you've looked up to My city

29:05

fighting Korea and while a when

29:07

as great. Doesn't really do

29:09

lots the him in terms of

29:11

the rankings because. Elder has

29:13

been out for. So. Long

29:16

However, I. Think

29:18

the the. Resume

29:20

of the elder salts in

29:22

some regards because. Obama.

29:24

Said the way Champions T Sport

29:27

for the ban on weight Champion

29:29

ship as well like he has

29:31

been a title contender, been at

29:34

the top you know in decisions

29:36

so he was competitive. I mean

29:38

see I see the said today

29:40

that he stopped or fourteen of

29:43

Moraga valets phillies take down attempts

29:45

which nobody nobody has been able

29:47

to do that. So Aldo. Can

29:50

still hang, He's can still compete it.

29:52

Sometimes he gets the nod, sometimes he

29:55

does a bias I think for my

29:57

seen as it's like. It

30:01

it reminds me of his he

30:03

may Chris Gutierrez fighting Frankie Edgar.

30:06

A place like Fox your

30:09

my idol. I.

30:11

I've been watching you my whole life. I

30:13

don't want to fight you. Know I

30:15

have to fight you any have a look at

30:17

look increases in since enough to put up. Flags.

30:21

And. That as just like that that

30:23

weighs a new. So. Much as

30:25

and I feel like maybe it's it's very some less

30:27

a giant the and you know he's on a six

30:29

fight win streak. At

30:31

another name at a legends a full of

30:34

fame. Much to that list mean. It's.

30:36

Gonna shoot him up the rankings social. Damage.

30:39

If you fly news Josie although

30:41

unconsciously plant Chris owners did I

30:43

mean gallons of oil from there.

30:46

Will be glad of. You. Leg

30:48

kicks stoppages him. I

30:50

already have to ski. leg kicks up. It's

30:52

is the leg kick us. I don't see

30:54

that happening because I mean even the jersey

30:56

doesn't. Like kick as much as he did.

30:59

You. Know back in the days I'm because

31:01

he's been. Working Marv his boxing. I

31:04

see that happening, partly because like

31:06

Elder, understands the kicking game. But.

31:08

He understands it. You know where the

31:10

weight distribution for him and what he

31:12

nice due to be up to sound

31:14

south the kicking gags I mean you

31:16

say you seen his fight with them.

31:20

Ah Petraeus me I tried to

31:22

to kick. Him a lot A just as

31:24

wasn't able to have a look at success because

31:27

he see has that straight up and dance my

31:29

Thai. Style. Of

31:31

stance that. Is

31:33

is a really great town off for.

31:36

The. Like it if he's able to know

31:38

pick up that leg. Pretty. Easily

31:40

as opposed to say like a boxer who

31:43

very heavy on alley like. Done.

31:45

During of leg kicks king I'm checking

31:47

latex as well In a super underrated

31:49

a new mention them robbing the the

31:52

take done defense incredibly under a you

31:54

know he may be the best ever

31:56

as defending take down his absolutely incredible

31:58

bomb for bombs so miles. There and

32:00

I like. And. That's

32:02

what's like crazy. Is.

32:05

He sister. So.

32:07

Good. And. Like.

32:10

A Like I said like these runs

32:12

between was a two thousand and. Two.

32:15

Thousand and Seven when he got into

32:17

W he sees to when he lost

32:20

to Com Mcgregor at Twenty Fifth Day

32:22

and I feel like is probably one

32:24

of the best stresses of combat sports

32:26

dominance that will ever seats bar and

32:28

you're like Anderson Silva's he Jon Jones

32:30

see a huge E S P type

32:32

names because I feel like that kind

32:34

of up there like comparable but he

32:36

is. Ron was. Already

32:39

will ever see anything like that Ever. Dem.

32:41

Like. It was phenomenal to watch that have

32:43

a look back and watch and that make

32:45

it's it's what makes him but at the

32:47

best and most respected. Know

32:50

buys in the organization, One.

32:52

Hundred percent Or last thing we mention

32:54

the rest the main card and pretty

32:56

spiffy to Pacino you get your amalgam

32:58

show Rare York put the area us

33:00

all Craig How Braulio. All

33:02

those fights are good of of Steaks

33:04

ranks fighters cetera, and what's the low

33:06

key banger few? What's the fight that.

33:09

No. One is talking about the deserves

33:11

More sign I'll let you know and

33:13

on mine are mixed Back Oral by

33:16

vs. Elvis Brenner absolutely rules. Incredible matchmaking.

33:18

Those two guys are this is the

33:20

fight of like who is. Who's.

33:22

That dude is at one way public.

33:24

who's the next guy? It's so good.

33:27

To terrifying individuals to twenty six year old

33:29

up and comers in the best division in

33:31

the sports. Love that five. What's the other

33:33

fight that that you have your eye on?

33:36

I mean. I.

33:38

I've actually really, and. I'm.

33:41

Really looking at. Up or I'll er

33:43

craig. Com the I mean

33:45

obviously people know who they are, but

33:47

for me it's like okay, poll Craig's

33:49

transition down. sat down to one eighty

33:51

five. He's one on one. now. I'm.

33:54

And it's like. Ten

33:56

He put it together. That's.

33:59

the big question because he's not

34:02

the most polished striker. He is a BJJ

34:06

guy, struggles to close the range, and

34:10

he struggles to get a

34:12

hold of those guys and take those lengthy

34:14

strikers down. Can he figure

34:17

it out? Is

34:20

this move to 185?

34:23

Was it the right decision? Yes,

34:25

he won one, but then he lost

34:27

Brendan Allen. He didn't really

34:29

do anything. Brendan

34:32

Allen took him down, was comfortable

34:35

being on the ground with him. The Jiu-Jitsu

34:37

wasn't really a big threat. He

34:40

doesn't really pose anything else as

34:42

a threat. I want to

34:44

see an evolution. I want to see

34:46

that change. I want to see that

34:48

moving to 185 was the right decision.

34:50

I mean, Barallo, he's in a 14-fight

34:52

win streak. Name over somebody

34:54

like Paul Craig is huge for

34:56

somebody like him. He's looked great

35:00

against Abus,

35:03

Magomedov, Oleshek, and

35:06

he's got that karate style, which

35:08

is exciting. I just

35:10

hope that he's able to pull

35:12

the trigger because he's another guy

35:15

who sometimes doesn't

35:17

pull the trigger because he's

35:19

waiting. He hesitates a little bit too much. I

35:21

think that one for me is the one that

35:23

I'm really intrigued about just for the fact that,

35:25

okay, can Barallo pull the trigger? Is he going

35:30

to be able to dominate?

35:32

Because when you're in a position

35:34

like Barallo, it's not about just

35:36

winning anymore. It's about what

35:38

you did in the win. Was

35:41

it impressive? Were you making improvements? Were you

35:43

looking better than the last bite? Were you

35:45

able to assert

35:48

your will onto

35:50

your opponent? And I think

35:52

for Craig, is it the

35:55

move? Was this the right move.

36:01

Like have you made the adjustments? Are you going to

36:03

be able to make these adjustments? And if you haven't,

36:05

you know, where does he go from there?

36:09

I mean, if the skill set of

36:11

Paul Craig matches the physical, I mean,

36:13

have you seen Paul Craig, blonde hair

36:15

tapping into his inner Charles Oliveira and,

36:17

you know, needed a change, needed

36:20

a change. And I respect that about him.

36:22

And I respect all the fighters to be on

36:24

the cards could be a good one. And I really

36:27

appreciate you jumping on to help us preview this event,

36:30

where can everybody find you? Where can everybody find

36:32

the shows for other previews of this event? Yeah.

36:35

Megan Anderson on all my socials.

36:37

The Megan Anderson show on YouTube.

36:39

And that's it. I luckily, I

36:41

thankfully got all of like the

36:43

same handles. So I don't have

36:45

to name off all these different

36:47

iterations of my handle. So it's

36:50

all just Megan Anderson one word,

36:52

and then the Megan Anderson show

36:54

on YouTube. Awesome, Megan. Thank

36:56

you so much. I appreciate the time. Enjoy the

36:58

fights on Saturday. No, thanks for having me and

37:00

you too.