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maria this is modern
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my mom chinese my dad is will eat
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i grew up hearing stories about how when
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how when started dating my mom my
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dad tried to learn mandarin to
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win over my grandparents
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eventually he gave up and
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they accepted him anyway i
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also grew up watching my mom going
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to my dad's family reunions should
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, at the dorm dorm a
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moment before walking into walking
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house full of people love
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her but will never really
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understand her
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i think about a woman who believes she'll
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have to navigate that distance between
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her culture and her partner's
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is written by may hair ahmad
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and read by some the land uncanny
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when i found a movie bend it like beckham
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on a girl scouts overnight it
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saved my romantic preferences for
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years to com
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there's been an indian girl in football
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the even allowed to go see me i
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was the sole they see member of our
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is suburban indiana troop i
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watched the movie in a state of bliss
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relieved have finally see someone
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who will look like me on screen i'm
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i'm really good would family
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we wanted daughter in law who can run
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around kicking football all day that can't make
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loans about these when
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guess the main character kisses
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gel the white soccer coach on the pitch
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in her sorry no last i
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wound
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i'm a final scene joe plays cricket
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with jesse's punjabi father
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that film sequence was like a portal
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into an alternate universe where
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a brown girl to date a white
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guy and still be at peace
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with her family
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in our circle
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of pakistani immigrants the few
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couples with a white spouse were treated
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as oddities i
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had only begun to imagine myself
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as someone interested in man boy
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it's really
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but i knew that i was expected
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to be with another pakistani a
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movie with a brown woman in a relationship
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with a white man who was accepted
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by her community represented
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the best
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the are both worlds
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after seeing the movie i became
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enthralled with white boys
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the gangly runners on my cross country
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team the star is that disney
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movies the members of good
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charlotte
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my college, i brave
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enough to date them or whatever
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one poll said booze filled holiness
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of university life
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didn't hurt that i was at the university of wisconsin
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madison which is what some
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would call a the target rich
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environment for white boys
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i joined the pakistani student association
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out of some misplaced guilt
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for the fact the
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i had not a single brown friend
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i cringed if any of the guys
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in the group tried to be and me
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let alone flirt
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it was clear to them i was simply tolerating
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their company oh they faded
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away to by
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the time i reached new york city my
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taste had evolved beyond white boys
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to anything but brown
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man not than i ever
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thought of that bias consciously and
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i embraced my brown this as a kind
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of cultural curiosity explaining
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where i came from and how my mother
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had my mini skirts from me in high school
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became a part of my personality
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funny flirtatious bets i
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deployed i did
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it one pakistani guy who
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like me had grown up abroad he
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was a colleague any excess
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is praise we received for getting together
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alarmed me the writer
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so good together people would
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explain we weren't
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though
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soon we broke up
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affirming my suspicion that i wasn't
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meant to be with brown man i
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did something drastic i
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moved back to pakistan
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i say
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back because i was born there
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but that hardly counts as i left when i
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was
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the
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since emigrating my family didn't visit
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all that much
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as an adult i began to go
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exclusively for my work in journalism
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filming the bleakest parts of the country staying
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in hotels surrounded by security
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barrier and leaving
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before i ever started to question my
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relationship to the people outside
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those walls i
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spoke the language well and ass and
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obviously it looked like everyone there
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myself distinctly american
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i took a leap and moving to
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pakistan i thought it would
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be a bankable career move to work as
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a string are for american media outlets
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and it was i
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hadn't considered that being there would
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change my convictions about love
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let alone my type
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i decided that dating and park is on
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wasn't going to be a thing
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the can be eligible men the tens
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of millions of brown men in the country
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didn't even register as possibilities
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then i met on the
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on linked them he
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was attempting to network
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the and co founded a pakistani use
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media company and remarked
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about are sharing and alma mater hello
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badger there
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we chatted and a pause karachi coffee
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shop i told my roommate how
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handsome he was but i
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didn't think much else of the encounter
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even though i met up with him again
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the time i told my roommate afterward
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that he reminded me of my brother
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the common feeling i had about brown men
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my age
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over the next several months ali
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and i became friends despite
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or perhaps because of the
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fact that i didn't see him as having romantic
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potential
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we would mark pakistani rich kid culture
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then commiserate about the country is a lack
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of com butcher he was
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kind attentive i
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italy confident i
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brought him to a friend's birthday party
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where someone mistook us for a
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couple we laugh
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it off then i caught him
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looking at me as he did later
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he offered me a ride home and i
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fully expected him to asked to come inside
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when he didn't i huffed off texting
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my friends in new york
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i it out here can't even as girls
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out
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properly
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moments later he
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texted i'm sorry
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if this is weird but i'd like to
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ask you out on a date how
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about
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the morrow
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i couldn't put my finger on what finally
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attracted me to him for
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starters and my imagined bi
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racial relationship there
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had been all this culture is signaling that
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wasn't nasa
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there he anymore
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because we were both brown gradually
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i realize that meant i didn't that
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to do my exhausting race conscious
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performance the
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self deprecating jokes
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would matter about terrorism
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the reflexive ironic shield i
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felt i needed
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when i was the one pakistani and
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the crowd
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he understood
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without me having to say anything
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after months of dating i
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saw how much space performance
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had taken up in my previous relationship
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without it i was vulnerable
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and
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crown
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the weight of constant posturing
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suddenly lifted hope
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and intimacy i could never achieve
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with the not brown guys
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the
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and i are married now and
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it's the most comfortable i have ever
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felt with another human being what's
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funny is that and telling the story
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i realize i have written be exact
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type of propaganda immigrant mother's
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pedal to keep their daughters in the
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culture the for only
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my mother was fond of telling me stories
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of some distant friend or relative
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who married a light ma'am and then divorced
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only to find happiness once they
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remarried a dc the
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isn't that
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that it
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not that either
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i'm not attracted to my husband because
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he
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brown
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then i also know we wouldn't have the relationship
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we have if he weren't from
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the vantage point of my most committed
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relationship i can see
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how my interior tussle with my
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identity carried into how i saw
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the men around me
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my
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i've been denied joke about what it
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would have been like if we had met in college
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it turns out our paths
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had crossed back then without
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meeting at the pakistani student
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association
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by instead we
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met in the country of my birth
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in a cafe surrounded by other brown
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people
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i had finally stopped seeing
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them brown people
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that it man
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yeah is likely to be in
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the over my social media feeds
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recently and had friends tell me how they manifest
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the new apartment or a text from
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very intentionally about something you want and
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the universe will respond and
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trustworthy it's i also read
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things like i want someone to snowboard someone who's
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keyboard and if you want
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try romantic manifestation there's
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plenty of advice online
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on go through and name
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if the person that you want to manifest
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the message from
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how did you feel anything
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read i'm not really interested
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in whether manifestation works
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like that's for the universe to decide
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i am interested in spirituality
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and what happens when the infuse it into
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a romance the glad i want to know
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why romantic manifestation is such
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a thing though i called
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a blur pitcher he's a contributing writer
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to the times who reports on dating
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and social media and popular culture
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markets are hello hi
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so in that romantic manifestation
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sort of become more mainstream
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recently i think
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there was a trend recently
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on tic toc no matter what he is doing
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no matter who were people repeating
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the matter what he is doing no matter who he
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is where he has always thinking about me
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always thinking about
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me
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what is that attempting to to
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manifest
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the his pension his thoughts
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yeah and interest from a person
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who you want to want you i know
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a lot of people posted at saying that's how they
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then a manifest their eggs back to
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that that is one of the
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the time i came across
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love manifestation and then it's also
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a , videos like symbol limit or manifestation
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videos on manifesting being
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hot has to be wildly
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attractive a magnetic anyone
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had to manifest this stuff
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one is see yourself as a desirable
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person see yourself
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as someone who is designed who was wanted
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who is attractive beautiful see yourself in yourself
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asses in that light stuff you know
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i've seen several
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videos and i feel like the people making
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them are all that sort of in the same age
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range younger
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and i would assume that target demographic
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are are so
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at a similar age
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why do you think man
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the
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though i do feel like
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having these
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things that people can recite or message
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that you can use seventeen since it
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really gives people a sense of control
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dot they don't otherwise in
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in dating now a days
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right arm and i also think it's really
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just going alongside
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the six rising interest and spirituality
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and general if you're into doing
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things like opening up your third i
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then i haven't tested for you saw
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a matter of meditation retreat
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and i think they young people are
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really interested the n you
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know new age spirituality and different techniques
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and really opening up to a lotta different things
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that us virtual but not necessarily religion
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you are part of the greater whole connected to
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all the energy around us and so
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i think manifestation odds
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this element spirituality
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which really takes away from it being
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so that's you know yeah
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they more about that how does it what element
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does it add because it's divine
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you know it's a divine cunning sin i
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think that's the so many years we
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were really pushed to kind of rise
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and grind
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people are really tired
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of the same thing at this point zero
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senate's was in you go on a dating app and
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you're putting an oldies hours slicing and swiping
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your
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the not feeling like you're meeting anyone
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it'll very is that full who
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so i think sigh a
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lot dialogue
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at the moment is wow saucer loving
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people are rejecting the gym and going
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for just walks it's not going
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on dates that you don't want to go on and
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it's really waiting for that person and believing
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that they gonna come to you at the right time
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at the time that you're ready for them
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more and thank you
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much retard you need today about manifestations
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