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It's TENUA. Time to stay locked into

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new episodes. On this episode,

1:12

we sit down with acclaimed film producer

1:14

Will Packer. So we built this team. Yeah,

1:17

making a little bit of money. Yeah, let's talk about

1:19

going out on your own. You started Will

1:21

Packer Productions. Yes, that's

1:24

a huge feat. You're like, I'm going to do this on my

1:26

own. I'm going to create more of these blockbuster

1:28

movies. How are you structured different? How do you feel

1:31

your success has been different from the average

1:33

production house.

1:34

It's a lot different. One is

1:36

that it was.

1:37

It was built from the ground up with an audience

1:40

first mentality. So for me,

1:42

because I started off making little,

1:44

tiny independent movies, you know, one

1:47

at FAMU one. After I graduated,

1:49

I had to hustle and independently distribute those

1:51

films to the audience. I've always kept

1:53

an eye on who am I making the project for?

1:56

Who do I know is going to see this

1:58

movie? I am somebody that believes don't

2:00

worry about making content for everybody,

2:03

don't worry about trying to be all things to

2:05

all people, but be everything

2:07

to some people. That is my model.

2:10

That is a tenant of mine. I believe in that

2:12

I don't have to be all things with all people, but I need to be everything

2:15

to some people. And that

2:17

audience that I have had that

2:19

has supported me that I'm very, very thankful

2:21

and grateful for. I have continued

2:24

to feed and serve that audience even as we expand

2:26

beyond it. That's one of the things that makes us

2:28

different from a lot of production companies out there. The

2:31

other thing is that I have set

2:33

my company up to be very malleable

2:35

when it comes to how we think about content

2:37

and projects. So, for example, when

2:40

we get a pitch or a ip

2:43

an article, a book brought into us, we

2:45

don't only think about it in one particular

2:47

way. We don't think, okay, this was this

2:50

was pitched to us as a movie. If it doesn't

2:52

work as a feature length movie, then we can't

2:54

do anything with it.

2:55

Right.

2:56

It's the equivalent of if you and I we

2:58

have a shoe company, right, that's

3:00

what we do, and or we have a hat

3:02

company. We make hats and somebody bring us a great

3:04

design for a shoe, We're gonna try to stick the shoe

3:06

on our head and say it doesn't really work, right, But

3:09

if we have a company that is

3:11

able to monetize and exploit across

3:13

different mediums, then you say, that's not

3:15

a hat, but it's a great shoe, and let's

3:17

figure out a RaSE to go.

3:19

Versatility as versatility.

3:21

Do the same thing in my production company. If somebody

3:23

brings something in, we say, well, is it a doc, is

3:25

it limited series?

3:26

Is it a podcast? Is it a feature? Is it a

3:28

scripted series? Unscripted?

3:30

And we have the ability to do all those things,

3:32

so now we're not pigeonholing ourselves.

3:34

That's something that's very very important, especially when you

3:36

think about scaling of business.

3:38

You know, that's really important, I think in this industry

3:40

and not the norm because obviously in

3:42

a lot of these legacy industries they're like, well, this film

3:44

has to be only made for this audience and

3:47

it has to be a romance. It can't have action

3:49

in it. You know, it's very like what is

3:51

it and what does it look like? So you can put it into a box.

3:53

So I can see how looking at your array

3:56

of products that you've put out from reality

3:58

unscripted to some of my

4:00

favorites your TV series being Mary Jane

4:03

to East Too, you know they're really

4:05

different, but you know what you're going to

4:07

get.

4:07

Yeah, yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.

4:10

I always again try to keep that audience first,

4:12

think about who I'm making it for.

4:14

Make it for a number.

4:15

Back to the money part of this, make it

4:17

and put in resources that make sense based

4:19

on the profit potential of a project. Don't

4:21

overextend, right, don't go out and

4:24

don't raise more money than you need. Spend

4:26

what you need to spend in order to have success. Don't

4:29

wait until you raise. Maybe

4:31

you set a goal for X, right, if

4:33

you're never going to get to X, ins set a date and

4:36

say by the time I

4:38

reach, you know, a year from now, however

4:40

much I raised, that's the budget of my project. That's

4:42

what I did with our movie Twah,

4:44

which was the movie we made right after Chocolate

4:46

City, just graduating. We had

4:48

this dream of raising a bunch of money and we could

4:51

never get there, and we said, you know what, we could spend

4:53

the rest of our lives trying to raise this money.

4:55

So what we're gonna do is, instead of having a financial

4:57

goal, we're going to set a date goal and every

5:00

we're able to raise by that particular date,

5:02

that's the budget of the movie, and that's exactly what

5:04

we did.

5:04

I'm going to talk about movie budgeting because I think this is interesting.

5:07

Okay, how do you cut costs on a production

5:09

set like that? I think is

5:11

the nitty gritty that's really hard? Is it in the

5:13

actors? It is in wardrobe? There's

5:16

so many pieces that go into a successful

5:18

film. How do you cut costs?

5:19

Nowadays?

5:20

The answer is yes, all those

5:22

eerrands, right.

5:23

Because in you

5:26

can make a movie for any amount

5:28

of money. All right, you can make a movie for five

5:30

dollars, it's gonna look like a five dollars movie.

5:32

Come to me, Instagram, I'm making movies.

5:34

But hey, you can make a

5:36

movie with five hundred million.

5:37

Yes, right, it's just about the story you're trying

5:39

to tell them the way that you tell it live.

5:40

That's in the execution.

5:41

So when you think about budging a movie,

5:44

you have to think about where

5:46

do I want to put the majority

5:48

of my resource. Resource allocation is

5:50

so important in any industry, but especially

5:52

in the movie business. So if there

5:55

are certain stars that this movie

5:57

does not work without these stars, it doesn't work

5:59

without it have to have these stars.

6:01

You gotta pay what you gotta pay to get those stars.

6:03

You got a concept that is, you know,

6:06

a big, high concept movie people relate

6:08

to. It's kind of doesn't have to have

6:10

a big star in it. Then you spend

6:12

your money elsewhere. Maybe you put it on your director, or

6:14

your script or your wardrobe or

6:16

other elements of it.

6:18

It's always a balance.

6:19

It's always figuring out what are the essential

6:22

elements that I need to make this

6:24

movie.

6:24

That's what I do every time. What do I have to

6:26

have in.

6:27

Order for this movie to be successful? You

6:29

put your priority, you prioritize the resources

6:31

there. Then everything else you spend

6:33

what you have to, but no more

6:35

than that if it's a non essential element,

6:37

which is hard sometimes because you get

6:39

people to say, well it's all essential, it's all important.

6:42

Of course it is, but you still have to PRIORITYZ. And

6:45

that's the same.

6:45

I don't care if you're starting a rescue

6:47

right, doesn't matter. Prioritize

6:50

what do you have to have, what's essential. Put

6:52

the majority of your resources there and the

6:54

rest. Spend what you need to, but no more

6:56

than.

6:57

You have to.

6:58

You know, we have a lot of really successful entrepreneurs

7:00

and founders, and I hear this a lot.

7:02

I think some of the most successful entrepreneurs,

7:04

CEOs, bosses are able

7:06

to make really important

7:09

decisions quickly, swiftly,

7:11

and with certainty, and that's what makes a good

7:13

leader. Yes, and you can cut through and

7:15

read through all that stuff, not vacillating

7:17

on like oh should be you know, have this

7:19

car or this, and you can make rooves

7:22

really fast.

7:23

Yes, yes, yes, no, you said it. You got

7:25

to cut through it, cut through it, get to

7:27

what's important. Don't spend a lot of time.

7:29

Goes back to me saying, keep the main thing, the main thing.

7:32

Don't spend a lot of time on things that are not important,

7:34

prioritized and by the way, one

7:36

of the most important resources that we all

7:39

have. And I don't care if you're you know, Tanya,

7:41

Sam will Pack or somebody that's just starting

7:43

off trying to get to this level.

7:45

Time time time. You

7:48

know it, and I know it because it's the thing we have the

7:50

least of.

7:51

Right, somebody asked me to come and

7:53

be a part of something, I would much rather

7:55

cut a check. I'll much really say can I donate? Because

7:57

I can't come. I can't tell you out la.

8:00

Time is the most important resource. And

8:02

so even when you're just starting out,

8:05

protect your time.

8:06

Where are you're spending your time? Are you spending

8:08

your time?

8:08

You should be doing something every day towards

8:11

trying to reach your goal every day, even if it's small.

8:14

Make sure that you're progressing every

8:16

day.

8:16

My favorite word is onward, positive

8:19

perpetual progression. No matter what, onward,

8:22

always be moving forward. So even

8:24

if you're just starting off, you're trying to figure out how to

8:26

raise money, trying, that's fine, but don't

8:28

spend all your time on social

8:31

media or you know, hanging

8:33

out doing things that aren't progressed networking.

8:37

It's busy work.

8:38

Don't do that now another world of networking,

8:40

if it's real networking, but if it's just happy

8:42

hour every you know, every day, because

8:45

you know you're tired and and by the way,

8:47

I get it.

8:48

And when you're first starting off, it's tough.

8:49

And you need like social releases, nothing wrong with

8:51

that, but make sure every day you're doing at

8:54

least a little something towards your goal.

8:56

Okay, I have a funny question for you.

8:57

Okay, you talked about, you know, knowing

8:59

you need certain actors to make certain

9:02

movies. Yes, looking back at your

9:04

catalog of movies, Yes, tell me one

9:06

movie where you knew and you had to go after

9:08

this specific actor or

9:10

actress, yep, to ensure the success

9:13

of the movie Obsessed.

9:15

And Beyonce, Okay,

9:17

go, you can argue with that.

9:19

You asked it was, it was

9:21

Obsessed, and that was a project

9:24

that she told us no

9:26

multiple times. Yeah, and you

9:29

know, the scheduling was very tough, and

9:31

you know she wanted some changes to the script.

9:34

But once I knew she was at least open

9:36

to a conversation, I was like a dog

9:38

with a bone. I said, I'm going to do anything I

9:40

have to do to get her in that project.

9:42

That project did not work without

9:45

her.

9:45

I knew to have the profile and the level of

9:47

success that that project.

9:49

Needed to have, I needed her and it was only her.

9:51

She was the only one. So when she came back and

9:53

said, you know what I like.

9:54

Where you've got in the script, I would do it,

9:56

but I'm touring and I've got a makeup

9:59

campaign and I've got this and that.

10:00

I said, you know what, you tell me when

10:02

you can do it. You tell me.

10:04

What afternoon you got,

10:06

what weekend you got? You tell me and I

10:08

will fit my schedule. You turned that maybe into

10:11

a yes, you like I'll make it happen. Okay, Now, what's the

10:13

opposite side. Tell me an

10:15

actor that you took a chance on that just blew

10:17

you out of the water and surprised you so much. Tiffany

10:19

habits, oh easy. Tiffany habits

10:21

absolutely, And we knew it. When I say

10:24

surprised, it is a surprise,

10:26

and that I hadn't seen her do this

10:28

on this level before like she did in Girls Trip.

10:30

She had done, you know, great work,

10:33

but she hadn't had that platform to take her to the

10:35

next level. So we didn't

10:37

know until she came in and every

10:39

other actor that read for that role, which there were many,

10:42

they were reading that character

10:44

and portraying the character. Tivity came in

10:46

and she was that.

10:47

She honestly Girls Trip.

10:50

I've saw it several times in the theater. I

10:52

just kept going back with more and more

10:54

girls. I left there in physical

10:56

pain.

10:57

Like I think I.

10:58

Truly bologized that don't

11:02

bust again.

11:02

I actually think I toned my apps. But

11:05

it was the best, and I mean.

11:06

Comedy is hard, but you are right, she nailed

11:09

it, and really I think set her career on

11:11

a just different trajectory.

11:12

It's so good.

11:12

I for you.

11:13

Yeah, I'm sure many congratulations

11:15

with that movie was so funny.

11:17

Yeah, So I.

11:18

Want to go back and I want to you know, be able

11:21

to instill a little bit.

11:22

More hope, okay into

11:25

our audience.

11:25

So you've been in the game for a couple of years

11:28

now, one maybe two decades,

11:30

having this incredible catalog three

11:32

decades, and I'm

11:34

proud of this. And you

11:36

know, the advice you might have received from your

11:38

mentors back in the day is probably

11:41

a lot different than you would advise young

11:43

people going into the industry. We're seeing a rise

11:45

of streaming. People are making five minute movies

11:48

on Instagram.

11:49

So how would you.

11:50

Sort of shape the advice that you give out, Now,

11:53

that's a great question.

11:55

Back when I was starting off, it was very

11:57

difficult just to make a movie.

12:00

You had to go and buy.

12:01

Film and editing equipment,

12:03

and you know, have like film cameras.

12:06

You know, we were shooting on super sixteen

12:08

millimeter film, or if we really had

12:10

a budget, we'd shoot on thirty five millimeter film.

12:13

Now we're in a digital environment. Now, we're an environment

12:15

where.

12:16

Social media is the way that you reach people

12:18

and the way that you can distribute content. So

12:21

when I was coming up, people told me, hey,

12:23

just try to get your movie made. It

12:25

wasn't about, you know, necessarily what the

12:27

content was. It was just

12:29

get it made. If you can just get it made,

12:32

then you're ahead of the game.

12:34

Right.

12:35

So these days, when I'm talking to that next

12:37

generation of filmmakers, what I'm telling

12:39

them is it's not enough to just get your

12:41

movie made. Now, you've got to show

12:43

that there's an audience for your

12:46

project.

12:46

You've got to go out and show.

12:48

Millions of views on YouTube or Instagram

12:51

or TikTok, whatever that platform is.

12:54

You've got to show that you have an ability to

12:56

find that audience and accumulate

12:59

that audience. Because then you have people

13:01

like myself and others that will say, you know what if

13:03

they were able to do that shooting

13:06

it on their iPhone and editing it an

13:08

iMovie, what would they.

13:09

Do with real resources?

13:11

Because I see they have the talent, and I see

13:13

they have the ability to find an audience.

13:15

So that's very different advice.

13:17

It's much more competitive now because it's an oversaturated

13:20

content environment. Everybody's making

13:22

stuff, right. It's like you your podcast

13:24

is successful because it cuts through.

13:27

There are a lot of people with podcasts.

13:29

Out there, But your voice is unique,

13:31

your subject matter is unique, your guests

13:33

are unique.

13:34

Like everything, you have to do something that's going

13:36

to stand out now because there is

13:38

this oversaturation, But what

13:40

that means is that the cream will rise to the top, as it

13:42

always does. You just got to work harder to

13:44

make sure that you're one of those that stands out

13:46

in an environment where everybody.

13:48

Is, you know, a mini movie maker.

13:50

Do you feel that this opens up more

13:52

access and a little bit more equality.

13:55

These I do? I do? Yeah.

13:57

I think it's the democratization content

13:59

creation that really really do because

14:02

now the barriers aren't there. When

14:04

I was first coming in, if you didn't

14:06

have the money to buy film and you

14:08

didn't have a big studio to distribute it, no

14:10

one would ever know about it, No one would

14:12

There was not this you know, ability

14:15

to go and take your content straight to consumers

14:17

like there is now now if

14:19

you've got a voice, and we see this with all the

14:22

influencers out there that are successful, they're

14:24

not using studios, big financiers

14:26

to fund their stuff.

14:28

They're making it direct for their audience.

14:30

They're turning down actually investment

14:32

and equity deals because they're like, No, I'm going to keep making

14:35

this myself.

14:35

Many of them are folks like me.

14:37

Now are aligning with these folks, with

14:39

folks that have gone out and shown an ability to

14:42

be able to create, monetize

14:44

and create content for an audience. I

14:46

now need to align with them. I'm putting those

14:48

people in my movies.

14:50

Oh that's interesting.

14:51

Yeah, So one thing on this show, I

14:53

love to talk about building generational

14:55

wealth. Yes, and I think

14:57

that you know, for I'll speak for myself in my

15:00

generation, my experience, my years on

15:02

this earth. I feel like the messages

15:04

I learned from my parents, which were first generation

15:07

to Canada, are so much different.

15:09

How have you approached generational wealth

15:11

building the lessons that you impart on

15:13

your children?

15:14

What's changed for you?

15:16

Yeah?

15:16

You know, if we are going to cycles

15:20

work in multiple ways,

15:22

right. A cycle can be negative, a cycle can be positive.

15:25

We talk about negative cycles

15:28

a lot, especially in African American community.

15:30

Understandable because we are up against a

15:32

lot and there are a lot of negative.

15:34

Cycles that we're trying to break.

15:36

But if we're going to have positive cycles,

15:38

then you got to start with talking about wealth

15:41

building. Yes, we're going to talk about economic

15:43

equity we're going to talk about buildings,

15:46

a legacy within your family, a legacy

15:49

of success and positivity. It

15:51

only happens through generational wealth.

15:53

I'm like you.

15:54

I came from a two parent household. My

15:56

parents definitely instilled in me you gotta work

15:58

home. You gotta work work hard, outwork

16:01

your peers, look to your left and your right, be working

16:03

harder than them.

16:04

Right. They definitely instill that in me.

16:06

I took that to task with

16:08

my children now, who are very

16:12

privileged children because well, packers

16:14

are dad. So they're coming in a different

16:16

position than I was when I told

16:18

them, I start the same way.

16:20

You gotta work hard, but gotta

16:22

work smart. You got to make

16:24

a dollar.

16:24

What are you doing with that dollar? Don't make a dollar, spend

16:26

a dollar thinking I'm going to make another dollar, or that

16:29

makes another dollar for you. Dad, don't have another

16:31

dollar? Okay, Dad made discuss right.

16:33

My kids produce these movies, right,

16:35

they know that. But they

16:37

do have access to my

16:40

network, and they have the ability

16:42

to go out and not necessarily have to work

16:45

a part time job through high school like some

16:47

people may have.

16:48

So now what are you doing with that time?

16:50

That resource we talked about and then what are

16:52

you doing when you do get your hands on a little bit of money.

16:54

So now I'm instilling in them things like

16:56

making sure that you invest, making sure

16:59

that you're thinking long term, not short

17:01

term. One of the things about our community, we are

17:03

caught up in conspicuous consumption and short

17:05

term success, short term spending,

17:08

short term gain. Yep, when you

17:10

don't have anything, short term feels

17:13

like long term rite a drug. You got

17:15

nothing, then you get something

17:17

that feels like everything you need right now,

17:19

let's start thinking about the tomorrow after tomorrow,

17:22

after tomorrow, and let's start thinking about

17:24

the generation after this one and the one after this

17:26

one. So what I'm trying to do is instill not

17:29

just my kids, but just people I talk to. It's not

17:31

just about you, It's not just about.

17:32

Where you are today.

17:34

Live a great life, love your life, do

17:36

the things that make you happy. But then one

17:39

of the things, there's nothing more fulfilling than

17:41

knowing you're affecting other people. That's

17:43

within your own family, that's within your

17:45

own community. That's how you start to build generational

17:48

wealth. Thinking beyond just you and

17:50

thinking beyond just today.

17:52

I would be remiss if I didn't say that you

17:54

know, you've been investing for a long time and you

17:56

are, you know, espousing what you believe

17:59

in and you invest in the

18:01

network that we are currently airing on Bounce TV

18:03

along with the great ambassador Andrew

18:06

Young as well as Greenwood's founder

18:08

Ryan Glover. Yes, so

18:10

talk about your mindset for investing.

18:13

You had these colleagues, you decided to

18:15

write a check as you believed in them. Was that the

18:17

first investment that you had done into another black

18:19

owned business and just what

18:22

was your mindset at that time.

18:23

Yeah, it's a great question, you know, and I give all props

18:25

to Ryan Glover, I really really do, because

18:27

he's someone that saw this opportunity. He

18:29

aligned with some of the folks that were at Turner

18:31

Broadcasting at the time. I was doing

18:33

my thing in a parallel track, but I was not in

18:36

the television space in a major way at that time.

18:38

Ryan called me with that opportunity. Sometimes

18:41

it's about recognizing the opportunity,

18:43

right. I believe that we all

18:46

have the ability to take

18:48

advantage of things, and the question is

18:50

do.

18:50

You take advantage right? It's not about

18:52

having a big old bank account.

18:54

Sometimes sometimes it's just about Okay,

18:56

there's an opportunity here that I'm going

18:58

to recognize and see long term benefits.

19:01

So when Ryan first approached me about

19:03

Bounce, it wasn't this Bounce that we're watching right

19:05

now. It was a concept. It

19:07

was an idea, but it was very smart. It

19:09

was a good one. And that was the first

19:11

time that I got involved with a media company

19:14

that wasn't my own. Since then

19:16

now, I've been very fortunate. I've bought

19:18

several media companies I bought.

19:20

One of the greatest things that was

19:22

said to me that I enjoyed was Russell Simmons

19:25

because I bought an agency

19:27

that he owned and I

19:30

bought it. It was called Narrative. It was run by an amazing

19:32

sister named Tricia clark Stone. And

19:35

I bought this brand, marketing and

19:37

advertising agency from Russell

19:39

Simmons. And as we were closing the deal, after

19:41

it was all done, I said, man, this was great. It was awesome, and

19:43

he said, you know what, the biggest thing about this is

19:45

is that a black man bought a media

19:48

company from another black man. Wow,

19:50

you acquired something that I built

19:52

and now are going to take it to the next level. That doesn't

19:54

happen often enough. It doesn't that stuff.

19:56

Often enough, and I would be remiss if I didn't shout

19:59

out at the fact that we're filming in the gathering

20:01

spot. Look at how this all interconnectedness

20:03

of black excellent happens. We're filming in the

20:06

gathering spot from an investment you

20:08

know that you made into Bounce TV and Ryan

20:10

Glover who is now the co founder

20:12

along with Paul Judge at Greenwood Bank,

20:14

And this is how we build up together.

20:17

This is how we create generational wealth

20:19

in the black community.

20:21

That's that positive cycle. That's it. You're

20:23

a part of it.

20:24

I'm a part of somebody watching. What is

20:26

your opportunity to create your own

20:28

cycle. You're absolutely right. This is a full circle

20:30

moment for me. That's why it's so awesome

20:33

and I'm so honored to be here.

20:34

It is so awesome.

20:35

All right, last question for you. I

20:37

want to talk about a singular event

20:40

when you got the wire, got

20:42

the bag, Which is the one that stands

20:45

out in your mind the most.

20:49

It was Stomp the Yard.

20:51

Oh, that's right, that's

20:53

that was the success of Stomp the

20:55

Yard.

20:55

When Stomped the Yard. At

20:58

that time, I had never.

20:59

Done a widely

21:01

distributed theatrical movie.

21:03

I had done independent movies and

21:06

I was working my way up.

21:07

That was my first studio backed

21:10

widely theatrical release movie.

21:13

Nobody expected anything from it. I

21:15

didn't have a big budget, but I

21:17

had a vision for it, and it

21:20

opened number one.

21:22

At the box office.

21:24

And Hollywood, like most industries,

21:26

we've got quantifiable metrics

21:28

that determined success, and how

21:30

you open at the box office is certainly one

21:32

of them.

21:33

And when that.

21:34

Movie opened number one, it

21:36

changed the dynamics of myself,

21:38

my company, everything that

21:41

I was doing.

21:41

I got my calls returned. I know how

21:43

that goes.

21:44

I all of a sudden got a lot of incoming calls

21:46

because I had done things again in

21:49

that quantifiable metric, which is box office,

21:51

which is making money that Hollywood could not

21:53

deny. It didn't matter who I was, when they liked me, didn't

21:55

like me, whether I was black, white.

21:56

What didn't deny that they

21:59

could not deny to keep screen. Well,

22:01

we are so appreciative of your time, and

22:03

I feel like you've really laid a roadmap

22:05

for success for so many people. But I want to give you

22:07

the opportunity. Is there another

22:09

gem that you want to share with our audience? Is there

22:11

something that you want to leave us with as

22:13

we close out.

22:14

You know, Tanye, you and I talk

22:16

offline, and we've talked about like

22:19

how important it is to have these exact

22:21

conversations. Right, So, if

22:23

there's anything that I would kind of just say and leave

22:25

the audience with, it's that you

22:28

have to be here, yes, and

22:30

present and consuming this right.

22:33

The fact that you're here, you're watching this, the

22:35

fact that you and I as successful people

22:38

are sharing this moment.

22:39

We don't have to share it. We could just be like on a beach

22:41

somewhere.

22:42

Right, you have to be somebody

22:44

I'm talking to the people watching this now who

22:46

are saying, I'm going to pay attention.

22:48

I'm going to tune in, and then I'm going

22:51

to.

22:51

Figure out how to take these gems

22:53

and affect them, manifest them

22:55

in my life. Right, It's up to

22:57

you now to take that next step. You're

23:00

already witting because you're in the US. We've

23:02

invited you to the room, so you're in the room where a lot

23:04

of things happen. How do you now then

23:06

go take this to the next level.

23:09

That's the key.

23:10

The successful people I know are always

23:12

learning, always open to

23:15

finding new ways to do things. They're not people

23:17

that sit back and say I know how to do it. I don't need to pay attention.

23:19

So if you're watching this, you're open to a new way of doing

23:21

things. The most successful people I know then

23:24

implement that, find a way to implement

23:26

that into their daily lives and into their strategies.

23:29

That's my challenge today.

23:30

I love that, and I feel like you've left

23:32

the bread combs. You told people about KPIs

23:35

you know, really understanding how they can move

23:37

the needle in their life. And you've even touched on manifestation,

23:39

which I really appreciate because I think it's about

23:41

visualizing and being intentional, but doing the

23:44

work to get to that piece. So well, it

23:46

has been our ultimate pleasure to have you

23:48

here today. Thank you so much. We look

23:50

forward to sitting in more theaters seeing

23:53

what you have next on your plate. Can you give

23:55

us some teasers of what we should be looking

23:57

out for.

23:58

Absolutely, I've got a

24:00

movie that is a gospel

24:02

choir competition movie, a lot of fun

24:04

shot right here in Atlanta.

24:06

You know, Chloe Bailey is in at Quevo.

24:09

Drew Ski we talked about influencer some

24:11

amazing gospel stars.

24:13

That is gonna be released in Easter.

24:15

I've got a movie called Dashing through

24:17

the Snow also shot hear it Atlanta

24:20

Christmas.

24:20

You know, you know I love my Christmas movie. Shot off.

24:22

Everybody that's watched this Christmas are

24:24

almost Christmas at least five times a piece.

24:26

Off.

24:26

You ain't watching five times a piece. You're not a real thing every

24:29

year.

24:29

Every year I need that. Yes, so I got

24:31

a new one and this one is going to introduce

24:34

Black Santa Claus. Oh sorry,

24:37

giving us what we mean. Yes, absolutely

24:40

a great fun family film and it'll

24:42

be out in Christmas twenty

24:44

three.

24:44

So I'm excited. I'm excited

24:47

about those projects.

24:47

Well, thank you so much. Will, thank you to your team,

24:50

Shla. Everyone. Can we tell

24:52

the audience where they can find you on social media?

24:54

Yes, absolutely easy, will power packer

24:56

across all platforms because you gotta have

24:59

will power.

25:00

We'll powerpack.

25:01

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25:04

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