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mysteries that keep you... It's
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incredibly difficult to watch as
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a promising life is cut down by
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unknown sources. On
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April 21, 2014, a mother and
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daughter who had everything in life
2:27
to look forward to were
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brutally slain by a person or
2:32
persons unknown. So,
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if you like your coffee hot but your bones
2:37
chilled, sit back and start your day
2:39
with a morning cup of murder. Kathy
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Hart in Netherland, when described by those
2:45
who knew and loved her, was said
2:47
to be a caregiver who often put
2:49
the needs of others ahead of herself.
2:52
Having lost her mother at a very young
2:54
age, she and her sister went to live
2:56
with their grandparents until their grandmother passed away
2:59
as well, and they were
3:01
moved once again back to Bardstown, Kentucky
3:03
to live with their father and step-siblings.
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A little older, Kathy attended Western
3:09
Kentucky University, where she would meet
3:11
her future husband, Bob Netherland. The
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pair lived a happy, healthy,
3:16
and normal life together, and
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eventually made their way to Bob's hometown
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of Campbellsville to raise their daughters, and
3:23
so Kathy could take care of her
3:25
husband's ailing grandmother and mother.
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Unfortunately, the move to Campbellsville
3:31
left Kathy, even with
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her two master's degrees in
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vocational rehabilitation and family studies,
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with very little in the way of job opportunities.
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So, she decided to pursue yet
3:43
another master's degree in special education.
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Landing a new job in Bardstown, the
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family moved for what would be the
3:51
final time. Bob, for years,
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had worked as a social worker for the state and
3:55
private agencies, but after decades of
3:58
watching families torn apart and children
4:00
left unwanted, he decided to
4:02
leave the job that took such a toll on him
4:05
and began work in a local Walmart,
4:07
meat and dairy department. The pair were
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incredibly happy with the life they had
4:11
built together and often sharing
4:13
loving tributes to one another on social media.
4:16
In August of 2012, they
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blissfully celebrated their 25-year wedding
4:21
anniversary together. Just
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two months later though, they were
4:26
completely blindsided when Bob
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was diagnosed with colon
4:30
cancer and began deteriorating
4:33
rapidly. He passed
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away in July of 2013 and
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Kathy, having just lost the love
4:39
of her life, had to
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learn to live life on her own again.
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Trying her best to move on, Kathy devoted
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all of her time and energy into her
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daughters and the children at
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Bardstown Elementary School. Working
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as their special ed teacher, people said
4:55
she was known as the troubled student
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whisperer and never seeing
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these kids as bad, she
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had a real knack for helping them
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succeed. She did all
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of this while raising two beautiful girls who
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in April of 2014, one
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Holly was off at college while
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the other Samantha was living
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with her mother, succeeding as a
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star student, volunteering at
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the Humane Society and had just
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recently been accepted into a prestigious school
5:25
for gifted upperclassmen, a
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school in which she would live on
5:30
campus and receive college credits. With
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dreams of becoming a marine biologist,
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Samantha was set up for success
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and was ready with the help
5:39
of her mother to flourish despite
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the devastating loss of her father.
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She had also just recently been asked to
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prom and had purchased the perfect dress for
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the special evening, a garment
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that unfortunately she
5:53
would never get the chance to wear on the dance
5:56
floor. On March 21st, 2014, the beautiful
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The beautiful future of both mother and
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daughter was brutally taken away when
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an unknown killer or
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killers entered their home and
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ripped away their promising lives.
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The following day, when Kathy failed to show
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up to work without a phone call, her
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colleague, Gladys King, simply
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thought that the now single mother must
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have overslept. So this
6:23
wasn't like Kathy, everyone was entitled to
6:25
a late night, and she even thought
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that maybe she'd gone out to visit
6:30
with Holly at school two hours away.
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Having spoken to her friend on the phone
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about Samantha's prom and her worries about Holly
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being so far away, Gladys
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had no idea that she was the
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last person to ever speak with Kathy
6:44
Netherland, but would later remark how the
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widow seemed hopeful and was, quote,
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quote, finally coming to grips
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with everything. Finding out
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that she did not make a call for a
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substitute teacher, Gladys found Kathy's
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stepsister, who also worked at
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the school, Stephanie Thompson, and together they
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tried to call the missing woman's cell
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phone. While all of this
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was happening, Kathy's father and another stepsister
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went to her home and saw that,
7:11
though Kathy's car was sitting in the driveway, no
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one was answering the door. Concerned,
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Norris Harden peered through the windows
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and saw, lying on the ground
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in her dining room, the
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body of his daughter. Running
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to the back door to try and get
7:28
inside, he found his granddaughter as well and
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called the police. By
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11am, word spread throughout the school and, though
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the details were hazy, everyone
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was shocked to find out that
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both Kathy and Samantha Netherland were
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dead. In
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what would later be described as
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an incredibly brutal double homicide that
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rocked the town of Bardstown, Kentucky,
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48-year-old Kathy Netherland was shot to death
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and her 16-year-old daughter Samantha was
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bludgeoned in the head before both
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were slashed across the neck. Samantha,
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when finally laid to rest, was
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placed in that unused prom dress
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before being lowered into the ground.
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As more and more people found out about
8:11
the crime and those who knew the victims
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insisted that they never had any enemies and
8:16
were not the type to ruffle any feathers, many
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noted how this was not the first
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unsolved slang to occur in a small
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picturesque city. A year
8:25
before the mother-daughter slang, a Bardstown
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police officer, Jason Ellis, was ambushed
8:30
on an exit ramp on
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his way home to his wife and his kids. Someone
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had laid out tree branches onto the
8:37
roadway as some sort of trap and
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used a shotgun to end the man's life.
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There was also, a little later, Crystal
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Rogers, who vanished in July of 2015 and,
8:47
now presumed she was
8:50
dead, was last seen by her boyfriend
8:52
and the father of her baby, Brooks
8:54
Hope. And just
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a year later, her father, Tommy Ballard,
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a man who vowed to never give
9:00
up the search for his daughter, was
9:02
shot and killed while hunting with his
9:04
grandson in a murder that
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many believe is connected to Crystal's
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disappearance. Each
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case, Kathy and Samantha's included,
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lead to small-town rumors and fears
9:16
that something nefarious might be happening
9:18
in the town once voted
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the most beautiful in America. Some
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even worried that the place might
9:25
be cursed. Investigating
9:28
the scene of the crime, police found
9:31
very little in the way of clues,
9:33
with the exception of the nearby surveillance
9:35
tapes that captured a black car driving
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near the Netherlands home the night of
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the murder. One that
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was seen parked in their driveway just
9:43
before 8pm and likely contained
9:46
the killer who, somehow, entered
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the home and killed two women
9:50
without leaving behind traces. Retracing
9:53
their steps, investigators learned that, after stopping
9:55
at a grocery store on their way
9:57
home, the pair picked up a
9:59
pizza, had dinner and were
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winding down for the evening just before
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that car pulled up. Both in
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pajamas, Samantha took their
10:08
dog outside sometime after 7pm
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and shortly before her murder, she
10:13
said goodnight to the boyfriend that she had been
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texting back and forth with all day. After
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the car was seen pulling up into the house, a
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dark figure walked up to the door, stepped
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inside without hesitation, and then
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left 15 minutes later. With
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little to go on but some
10:31
potential DNA, officers began
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interviewing anyone and everyone in
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Kathy and Samantha's lives, and
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announced to the public that they needed
10:40
help locating a total of three vehicles
10:42
captured on surveillance the night of the
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murders. Some that could
10:46
belong to witnesses, and one that
10:48
could belong to their killer. Eventually
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narrowing down their search to a 2006 to 2013
10:53
black Chevy Impala, they scoured the records of hundreds
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of vehicle registrations
11:00
in the area but came
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up empty-handed. While they
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continued looking for the car, even telling the
11:07
public that maybe it was borrowed and that
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it very well could smell like bleach now
11:11
due to a cleanup, those who
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knew the Netherland family wondered if it
11:16
was Samantha and not Kathy
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who was the target that evening.
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Citing her injuries and the brutal nature of
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her murder, they also pointed out
11:25
that nothing of worse like the
11:27
iPad, phone, and purse left in
11:29
plain sight was taken
11:31
and therefore, robbery was likely
11:33
not the motive. They also
11:36
determined that since the missing murder weapon
11:38
did not seem like anything found in
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Kathy's home, the killer likely brought the
11:42
items with them, meaning the
11:45
attack was not random and
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that someone inside must have been the
11:49
target. The problem was, Samantha
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was described as a quiet, shy,
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reserved, and calm young woman. Again,
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not the type to gather enemies
11:59
or upset someone. so much
12:01
that they decided to commit murder. But
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some strange things did happen in the days leading
12:06
up to their deaths. Like the
12:08
cryptic message that Kathy sent to a friend that,
12:11
though it did not generate any further leads,
12:14
did mention that she was about to have to
12:16
make a tough decision that she wasn't looking forward
12:18
to. She didn't
12:20
give any further details at the time, but
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the friend worried that it had something to
12:25
do with Kathy's other daughter, Holly. A
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young girl who briefly was considered
12:30
a suspect due to her sometimes
12:32
volatile relationship with her mother. Nothing
12:36
panned out and a year after the murders,
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Holly, in her first time speaking with the
12:41
public, tearfully announced a
12:44
$50,000 reward for information on her family's case.
12:47
She desperately pleaded with people to come
12:49
forward and, now completely
12:51
on her own, she
12:54
would give anything to tell her mother how
12:56
much she influenced her and
12:58
to hear her sister sing one last
13:00
time. Every
13:03
single lead, most of which were small
13:05
to begin with, came to
13:07
a dead end, and the case of
13:09
who killed Kathy and Samantha Netherland remains
13:11
a mystery. There have
13:14
been only two major updates reported in
13:16
this case. In
13:18
2018, during the season finale of
13:20
Oxygen's docu-series, The Disappearance of Crystal
13:23
Rogers, a reporter spoke
13:25
with an anonymous prison inmate who
13:27
claimed the murders were a gang
13:29
initiation. When pressed for
13:31
details, this inmate claimed, quote,
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I know that they were tied to their chairs. I
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know that one of them had her throat slit. They
13:42
were stabbed, and one was shot. I
13:45
know that trinkets were taken as trophies. Going
13:48
further, they said that a cell phone jammer was
13:50
placed in the front of their door, to, quote,
13:53
kill all the signal in the house, and
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when a retired homicide detective met with Holly to try
13:58
and confirm the inmate's fees had been made. She
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said a series about gang initiations
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and trophies might have been
14:05
possible. When speaking about
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the cell phone jammer, she said, quote, I
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mean, that would explain why they didn't get
14:12
a call off because I know my mom
14:14
always had a phone in her hand. I'd
14:16
like to think that if something happened to
14:18
mom, that she would have tried to get
14:20
a call off. She would have had a
14:23
cell phone. Then
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in 2023, a special prosecutor was assigned to
14:28
the cases of Jason Ellis, Crystal
14:30
Rogers, Tommy Ballard, and,
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quote, any other criminal
14:35
activity discovered as part of the
14:37
investigations into those matters. Though
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Kathy and Samantha's murders were not part of this
14:42
inquiry, if they are connected
14:44
to the other cases, then hopefully
14:46
this search will find that out.
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As of now, though, their case
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remains unsolved. Thank you for
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