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areas or mostly all democrat yet they
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give it, is it just a purely
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democrat area? It's a very unfair situation.
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Donald Trump may have violated the
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gag order and as hush money
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trial yet again yesterday during a
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radio interview complaining about the jury
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will get expert legal analysis on
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that and yesterday is opening statements
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and first Witness Plus will go
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through the newly unsealed transcripts and
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the classified documents case which show
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is a former White House staffer
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try to warn Trump about the
1:07
legal issues he could face in
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Elphinstone classified documents and. It's.
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Another day where Trump is in
1:14
court and President Biden is on
1:16
the campaign trail. This time and
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Trump's home state will preview the
1:21
President's speech in Tampa, Florida. A
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good morning and welcome to Morning
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Joe! It's Tuesday, April twenty third.
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along with Joe, Will and May
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we have us Special Correspondent for
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Bbc News, Katty Kay and Deputy
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Managing Editor for Politics at Politico,
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Sam Stein doing little way too
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early duty. Of course years of
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courses at a glance sounds nine he
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is the great the later very I
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am Stein all gasp a very exciting
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we're. Building A Double eighteen.
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Months doctors doing pretty well right
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now, but rather than the Dodgers.
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for hims jacqueline it matters more
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now the since. It's.
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April. but anyways I'm actually i'm
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just go to well i for
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the tops to really because i
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already sox did not play last
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nice. Make. And
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I got to. How
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many episodes? How much I've we've
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been? We've been precisely ib. It's.
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Ah I'm called Pomeroy Out
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with I am in were
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incredible. Way you guys
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so good So we're so will you
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see some talent you oh she's amazing
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says I'll tell you every enemy. Ah
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guy word which is you
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sounds years south. Guess you
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interviewed wellies? Yeah, Carol Burnett,
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the legend of all legends
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and and I never thought
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I would say this. But.
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There was the same. Or. Kristen
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Wiig, Said. Carol Burnett
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were going back and forth Css
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American taxis just by looking at
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me again I looked at each
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other. And. As I
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sell my guide light yeah she
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she can go sir Spirit Animals
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their spirit animal shelter go away.
3:12
Yeah so to toe with one
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of the great on it of
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all time and it was just.
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Such. A pleasure going to have to
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watch him. in fact, assholes that ago
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hole through everything. It was amazing status
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as a beautiful splashy show. It's Palm
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Beach in Nineteen Sixty Nine. The sets,
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the houses, the costumes, snooty people hanging
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out. I phone three clubs trying to
3:34
crack into society. It's amazing. It's and
3:36
yeah, Carol Burnett. I guess we should
3:38
give too much away, but let's just
3:40
say she starts to series in a
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coma which when I interviewed her she
3:44
said it was the best game of
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she ever had to go to make
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up. And then just lie there you go to
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sleep all day and to get upset with me
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and events are here We will give away too
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much with seeing president Wish I had are incredible
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time other an entire cast in this to practice.
4:00
It looks good to. It's a great
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show, Know yeah, me. There's so many
4:04
great actors in here, but Janet at
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one point a Carol Burnett was he's
4:08
not talking deserters. As
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a nice little throwback. but ah
4:14
but yeah, Khadija you've you've obviously
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and see that it is. I.
4:18
Would just say as if at one or
4:20
two snooty reviews as say now with this
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current map and aca a nap and. They.
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Don't know. Palm Beach? Yeah, I know.
4:27
I thought it was a pretty extraordinary
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send up with zombies. Yeah, I'd
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settle assassin. Amazing guy was
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we still dry and eight? It's only been
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around since the pool boy the guys that
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come into integrates and I love the way
4:40
you start to realize that. enough for all
4:42
of the glamour and the glitz, it's all
4:44
about secrets. Everybody. Has secrets and
4:46
I will try be somebody they are not
4:48
actually that's I think that's a said genius
4:50
bad at. You're right I like completely binge
4:52
watched it and I'm waiting now for at
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it comes down on Wednesdays I wait here
4:56
and say. Yeah we're waiting to
4:58
the hiding from I when. I have a dating
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for when. For data as horse
5:02
Guy Joshua was on are
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now. We have
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to get more. I am. I know
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we need to collect dolls is a
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nice break from ah lol Trump's anymore
5:13
Donald Trump and Court Donald Trump and
5:15
Court. That will I Donald Trump live
5:17
in court again yesterday and I think
5:19
else list again. I think it into
5:21
three more quick shutouts. Laura Dern, Allison
5:23
Janney on Ricky More front of a
5:26
Yes record I'm proud of Long as
5:28
Three avast Yeah, Oh yes. I mean
5:30
all three of I'm just great and
5:32
a Bruce. I mean we can go.
5:35
Go. Down the list I will
5:37
say they're all extraordinary. I
5:39
will say that. Me:
5:42
Can I turn to each other? And
5:44
I've always. I. Just loved.
5:47
Kristen. Wiig, I just use yeah,
5:49
Enix news is extraordinary on Snl.
5:51
Extraordinary. whatever she does. But we
5:53
looked at each other after was
5:55
over and we said. Nash's.
5:58
Sunday night level. The guy
6:00
my next level vs. they are
6:02
extraordinary. She has taken it to
6:05
the next level Pomeroy. I'll second
6:07
that if you haven't seen it
6:09
yet. So speaking of South Florida,
6:11
Donald Trump lives there. I don't
6:13
I make a segway our driveway
6:15
and sat down and thrive. Willies
6:17
there was out there was a
6:20
friend here and account why the
6:22
memories that reference or two At
6:24
one point when Allison Janney says
6:26
she loves mobster a husband and
6:28
she says. This. Is where
6:30
we're going to. This is where. Com
6:33
and criminal Yes this is where we're
6:35
going around on a few years in
6:37
Palm Beach and with good yeah there's
6:39
a sad they're going to run dispensary,
6:42
teachers and segue the ago. So Donald
6:44
Trump's has money. Criminal trials will resume
6:46
today in a New York City courtroom
6:48
after a busy day. Yesterday were both
6:50
sides delivered opening statements and a prosecution
6:53
called it's first witness. In their opening,
6:55
the prosecution and defense painting two very
6:57
different pictures of the former presidents Prosecutors.
6:59
Describing him as having been involved
7:02
in years of sorted business dealings,
7:04
they called Trump a coconspirators in
7:06
a plot to cover up sex
7:08
scandals in a so called catch
7:10
and kill plan during the Twenty
7:12
sixteen Presidential elections. They said Trump's
7:14
actions amount of criminal conspiracy and
7:16
cover up by scheming with his
7:18
then lawyer Michael Cohen and David
7:21
Packer, who was the publisher of
7:23
The National Enquirer at the time.
7:25
In the First Witness, the defense
7:27
depicted Trump as a dignified former
7:29
presidents. And. A family man and
7:31
above all in a surprise defense
7:33
dressing no crime was committed to
7:36
prosecute and then called Packer as
7:38
it's first witness. The former Chairman
7:40
Is T of American Media Incorporated
7:42
explained his publications and practice quote
7:45
checkbook journalism where they paid thousands
7:47
of dollars for stories. The publications
7:49
also had purchased stories to prevent
7:51
them from be published by other
7:53
outlets and then bury them. Packer
7:56
also testified Trump met with him
7:58
after the Twenty Six. The An
8:00
Election to thank him for being the
8:02
campaigns quote eyes and ears, scooping up
8:05
information they could be harmful to Trump
8:07
and then reporting a fact and Michael
8:09
Cohen. Hackers, Expected to
8:12
resume his testimony later this morning.
8:14
Let's begin Litigator and Msnbc Legal
8:16
Correspondent Lisa Rubin in former Us
8:18
Attorney and Msnbc contributor Chuck Rosenberg.
8:20
Good morning to you Both is
8:22
great to have the weather's we
8:24
say You're in the overflow room
8:26
yesterday watching all of this and
8:29
keeping track of Donald Trump's face
8:31
of gestures and perhaps nodding off
8:33
on what was your big take
8:35
away from yesterday day. Once. And
8:37
then take away as that this
8:40
is a fine about fossils and
8:42
of the second and yet. What
8:44
the government seems to have the
8:47
most evidence of his of the
8:49
underlying conspiracy. What still unknown to
8:51
me is how they're going to
8:53
prove Donald Trump's own involvements and
8:55
a sophomore season of the business
8:57
practice with which Is shares so
9:00
heard a lot of preview of
9:02
the evidence of that construction of
9:04
the conspiracies who was involved in
9:06
it. Who will place Donald Trump
9:08
with the knowledge in intent to
9:11
commit Oleksyn related crime When I
9:13
didn't hear as much. As out
9:15
is how Donald Trump than direct is
9:17
the cover up thereafter. For example, will
9:19
it? There is a two thousand and
9:22
seventeen Oval Office meeting between Donald Trump's
9:24
and Michael Cohen where the prosecution says
9:26
they cemented the repayment sales. How are
9:29
they going to prove that one through
9:31
the testimony of Michael Cohen? But I
9:33
was looking yesterday to hear how else
9:35
are things going to Princess They say
9:38
they have a photograph of the two
9:40
gentlemen at that meeting. They also has
9:42
invoices days afterwards and then. A couple
9:44
of days after that first payments, Michael Cohen
9:47
said I was hoping to hear that they
9:49
have a lot more than that. Somebody who
9:51
was also at the meeting who overheard the
9:53
meetings who plays some of these documents and
9:56
fun of Donald Trump, heard his comments about
9:58
it. I didn't hear that yesterday. I'm
10:00
hoping that we hear prosecutors have a lot more
10:02
about the back end of the deal as a
10:05
deal as much as they do about the front
10:07
end of it. Took what stood out
10:09
to you yesterday. he has. So I
10:11
agree with Lisa, but I would add
10:13
one thing near the circumstances also matter.
10:15
We often talk about there being direct
10:17
evidence, maybe conversations or photographs or emails
10:20
of a transaction, but circumstances matter to
10:22
will. If you walk out of your
10:24
house in the snow and your front
10:26
lawn, What do you think
10:28
happened last night? It snowed businesses. You may
10:30
not have seen it, and there may some
10:32
other explanation for why there's snow on your
10:35
front lawn. Maybe someone put it's there. But.
10:37
The likely explanation. Is. That
10:40
it snowed and so here we
10:42
send i know you Greeks we've
10:44
talked about lists thera bunch of
10:46
circumstances, the timing, the motivation that
10:49
show that after these conversations and
10:51
this conspiracy formed certain things happened
10:53
including the issue in subjects to
10:56
Michael Cohen under the guise of
10:58
a retainer agreement. And. Then
11:00
false and ah, what ledger entries that
11:02
followed. And so you're going to see.
11:04
I think over the course of this
11:07
trial Willie. A direct evidence
11:09
of the conspiracy and what the agreed to
11:11
do and circumstantial evidence is wealth and a
11:13
judge will tell the jury at the end
11:15
of the day. Both. Matter, They're
11:18
both compelling season except circumstantial.
11:20
were direct evidence or in
11:22
deliberating on your verdict. South
11:27
Donald Trump as calling on his
11:29
supporters. To protest outside the courthouse.
11:31
And Lower Manhattan where has has
11:33
money trial is being held. so
11:35
far his face has been and
11:37
know south and as the New
11:39
York Times plants at, the former
11:41
President is not getting the circus
11:43
he wanted. The paper reports there
11:45
are only a handful of Trump
11:47
supporters outside yesterday morning and they
11:49
were outnumbered by the Trump detractors
11:51
who had signs about his alleged
11:53
affair with an adult film actress.
11:56
The former President tried to rally
11:58
his followers with a long post
12:00
has special media site just before
12:02
seven yesterday morning. He would post
12:04
later that the courthouse has completely
12:06
closed down which is. Which. It
12:08
is not suggesting that the poor
12:10
turnout was a plot against his
12:12
supporters. I actually I'm gonna go
12:14
to Sam but you first show.
12:16
I mean. I. Know that
12:19
there's going to be this hearing before
12:21
court resumes today about the gag order
12:23
and I just wonder. I mean Donald
12:25
Trump wants to be careful about asking
12:28
people to com and railway and I'm
12:30
in. The last time he was pushing
12:32
people. To show up somewhere there. Was an
12:34
insurrection on the capitals and he was saying
12:36
i'll meet you there I just don't think
12:39
he should be tell I'm I'm not a
12:41
lawyer but it seems to me that he
12:43
might want to just go. To court module
12:45
use and not our people to show up in
12:47
his to say i'm after he was inaugurated Express
12:50
v United States You don't the White House for
12:52
the next week. I'm. using. What
12:54
You When you're outside the press
12:56
room you can see all these
12:58
different pictures pregnant with young child
13:01
process with Murray saluting president with
13:03
this present with that. Donald.
13:05
Trump put up pictures of the
13:07
crowd from angels that made it
13:09
look like he had more people
13:12
at his inauguration. Ah, he likes
13:14
that acceded so we sort of
13:16
obsessed with his stuff. I will
13:18
say he told them to congregate
13:20
peacefully. Ah, Maybe that's where
13:22
the misstep was for Donald Trump
13:24
Does Nobody showed up. And
13:27
so it's maddening their him. Everything
13:30
seems to be going against him.
13:32
He's having to sit this court
13:34
room. I thought it was fascinating
13:36
last night on Fox News You
13:38
actually dad Fox How news hosts
13:40
complaining that he was to all.
13:42
Users. Seventy seven year old man
13:45
who would make a seventy seven
13:47
year old man says on all
13:49
day that's what a lot of
13:51
seventy seven year old mint. The.
13:53
Sit down have been was the Atlanta
13:56
Braves i know my dad was while.
13:58
But. So I a been
14:00
around all day but but
14:03
he's just going crazy and
14:05
the added insult to injury
14:07
of course. He's. Being
14:09
outnumbered by people that are having you
14:12
know his his supporters are being outnumbered
14:14
by people that are. Holding.
14:16
Up signs talking about porn
14:18
stars and time in prison.
14:22
Yeah, I mean easy way. he doesn't have
14:24
Sean Spicer this time to go out there
14:26
and Tyrone and that is the biggest crowd
14:28
ever to witness a a court case right?
14:31
us and we can see it with her
14:33
own eyes and ears are there are not
14:35
that many people are there. Some of it
14:37
may have to do with fact that it's
14:40
taking place in a New York City, as
14:42
are not that many Trump supporters who are.
14:44
There's some of it may have to do.
14:46
In fact that last time he urged people
14:48
to congregate on his behalf was January six
14:51
and certainly be know how that ended up
14:53
and certainly lot of people have been arrested
14:55
offer the decision to descend on the capital
14:57
or but I still can't quite get around
15:00
the sides. Maybe we sick of addresses which
15:02
is that the the act of encouraging a
15:04
protest at the courthouse of asking your supporters
15:06
to make a spectacle of the court proceedings.
15:10
To degree or maybe not. And
15:12
medicines the two degrees seems like
15:14
an actor's attempted intimidation or and
15:16
I'm wondering if if that has
15:18
permeated the courthouse and all of
15:20
this is the judges aware of.
15:22
This is if there are ah
15:24
ramifications or implications for Trump for
15:26
doing things like this. I.
15:29
Think Sam the those implications or
15:31
ramifications sort of pale in comparison
15:33
to the alleged violations of the
15:36
gag order that we're goin deal
15:38
with this morning at nine thirty
15:40
the da has brought to the
15:42
does his attention at least ten
15:44
different instances that they say are
15:47
Trump Statement. That violate
15:49
this tag order. Many of them
15:51
are the same statement with respect
15:53
to Michael Collins, but there's also
15:56
a statement with respect to the
15:58
jurors themselves as in person, the
16:00
were a quotation from the Fox
16:02
News Host about democratic activists trying
16:05
to infiltrate this injuries to throw
16:07
it against Donald Trump. That's quite
16:09
an accusation. Putting. A fine
16:12
she of the gag orders but
16:14
given the wording of the gag
16:16
order even worse. and one thing
16:18
I want to bring to Dorner
16:21
viewers attention is that in asking
16:23
for this hearing they have asked
16:25
for. A thousand dollars
16:27
per violation. And.
16:30
Save asked the judge to a war.
16:32
What is just and proper? In addition,
16:34
that matters because under the Criminal Contempt
16:36
statute in New York you only have
16:38
two options. You can either find some
16:40
one thousand dollars per violation or you
16:42
can put them in jail for up
16:44
to thirty days and so in asking
16:47
the judge to take additional measures to
16:49
the extent he finds them just and
16:51
proper, that's the D. A very subtly
16:53
saying to him. And if you think
16:55
this guy deserves the slammer, Now's.
16:57
The time it's in your clothes. Know.
17:01
Me Juri i got would run to for
17:03
of feel by promise we will get back
17:05
to this boy quickly because. I.
17:07
Remember in two thousand and
17:10
sixteen opinion page editors. Had
17:12
to cut down on the quotes
17:14
about that Columbus would want. To
17:17
to bring into the columns from
17:19
William Butler Yeats the second coming.
17:22
Ah, Am and apply it
17:24
to Donald Trump and especially
17:26
specially the line that the
17:28
best lack of conviction while
17:30
the worst are full of
17:32
passionate intensity and that was.
17:35
It seemed. Very
17:37
approachable. in two thousand and
17:39
sixteen five. I. I.
17:42
Actually thought about those lines when
17:45
I when I saw Trump whining
17:47
about the fact that basically nobody
17:49
cares anymore. This. Isn't
17:51
even Elvis? Seventy seven? Is
17:53
like to tour buses, role law and
17:55
and people. Just. Don't
17:58
care, I don't see. Intensely. But
18:00
I will tell you. I. See a
18:02
lot of exhaustion from people who voted
18:04
for Donald Trump and twenty sixteen. Yeah.
18:08
Let you see that reflected on the
18:10
streets of Manhattan. You see it reflected
18:12
in all of the polls that show
18:14
us that does have some nominal lack
18:16
of interest in this election writ large.
18:18
What? two the Embassy post it seemed
18:20
so that the least interest in twenty
18:22
years. I don't think this is gonna
18:25
be another situation where Donald Trump drives
18:27
out massive turn out like he did
18:29
and twenty sixteen like you did against
18:31
him and twenty eighteen like he did
18:33
in twenty twenty minutes. That's been the
18:35
argument of the Trump campaign all along
18:37
as. Whether. You love him or you
18:39
hate him. Trump Dr. Peter the people to
18:41
the polls and manages to find new voters
18:43
to come to the polls. which is how
18:46
he squeaks out his his when and twenty
18:48
sixteen. Well if that's the model that they're
18:50
looking at and twenty Twenty four, it just
18:52
doesn't seem to be there that you know
18:54
that we look with our eyes. We hear
18:56
it from our small friends. We talked to
18:58
people who say they're exhausted. I don't know
19:00
anyone. That. Isn't already exhausted and
19:02
we helped. Still have another six months
19:04
to go of this election and we
19:06
still have another however many six weeks
19:08
or so of this cause. Hearing to
19:10
report on split Up shop Let me
19:12
ask the questions you about the prosecution
19:14
strategy he saw it. Laid. Out
19:17
yesterday and that does seem to be this. Focus.
19:20
On election interference. Or this said that
19:22
the election interference is behind this and
19:24
yet that's not actually what Trump is
19:27
charged with in this case. Unlike in.
19:29
Georgia or January the Six. Or
19:32
the all the documents. It. Is
19:34
normal Those cases odds election related is
19:37
that is that? A risky. Strategy for
19:39
the prosecution's transfer. Oh that in the
19:41
and. When. It complicate things. For.
19:43
The jurors I see caddy helps
19:45
explain things. if done properly right,
19:47
you're absolutely right. That Mister Trump
19:49
is charged with election interference is
19:51
George with the falsification of records?
19:54
But there's a context to this.
19:56
There's a story to this of,
19:58
and so logically one. and it's
20:00
a linear one, and the government
20:02
is trying to tell it chronologically.
20:04
The reason that you end up
20:06
with falsified records is because there
20:08
was a plot, a conspiracy, a
20:11
scheme, To. Try and suppress
20:13
out what story Daniels and perhaps
20:15
Karen Mcdougall and others had to
20:17
say about their liaisons with Mister
20:19
Trump and that set off a
20:21
chain of events including payments to
20:23
Michael Cohen disguised as retainers, when
20:25
in fact he was really just
20:28
a pass through to get money
20:30
to these women. To. Keep them
20:32
quiet and so in the context of
20:34
the trial and I think context matters,
20:36
you want to tell the jury why
20:38
it happened to you. don't have to
20:41
prove motors, but if you can prove
20:43
motives, it makes it a much more
20:45
powerful case. looks to your question about
20:47
whether or not this is risky. Trials
20:49
are always risky. The government has a
20:51
huge burden. They have to prove their
20:54
case by prove beyond a reasonable doubt
20:56
to unanimous juri, so there's always some
20:58
risk. But if you can explain why,
21:00
Six and Peloton A chronological. Sas Hims.
21:02
I actually think that makes a more
21:05
and more compelling story for a jury
21:07
month, one that is easier for them
21:09
to latch on to and to follow
21:11
solicitor that point we spend lane lead
21:13
up to this trial that this is
21:15
of course a hush money states but
21:17
it's also an election interference case that's
21:19
not really what these the prosecution's arguing
21:22
is it and in fact the defensive
21:24
said this is not election interference quieting
21:26
people who may hurt your campaign he
21:28
said because it's hard way of saying
21:30
that democracy is words. Not mine.
21:32
So is this a case?
21:34
Primarily or exclusively about hush
21:37
money and not election interference.
21:39
Know if the case I went I
21:41
would censor The Ah Professor tests primarily
21:43
about election interference. Citizen fight for that
21:46
conspiracy. You don't have felony charges. So
21:48
the Sachin a New York that prohibits
21:50
falsification is this a soccer says a
21:53
misdemeanor crime. I will last. You do
21:55
it with an intent to commit fortune
21:57
feel another crime and that's where the
22:00
alive an interference com events. But for
22:02
the intent to either commit or to
22:04
feel this conspiracy to throw the election,
22:06
these would not be felony charges And
22:09
so they have to either. So hush
22:11
money payments and the conspiracy, the cylons,
22:13
these women and the cover ups that
22:16
all has to be together to an
22:18
effort to change the outcome of the
22:20
Twenty Sixteen election. They don't have to
22:23
prove that it actually did so in
22:25
fact, the prosecution said me will never
22:27
know whether this made the difference, but.
22:30
At the end of the De Vere
22:32
line was this is about election fraud.
22:34
Pure and simple. Msnbc
22:37
Legal Correspondent Lisa Rubin and former Us
22:39
Attorney Chuck Rosenberg Thank you Both will
22:41
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22:44
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22:57
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takes a factor. Of unpopular ballots
25:08
for human lc have seen groups in the
25:10
same he served As why those Seventy two,
25:12
The Sept present Obama. Run. As
25:15
Twenty Twelve reelection Campaign. The.
25:17
Gym very easy to walk in Florida and
25:19
say it's out of reach of you Ordered
25:22
all the republican said have moved to this
25:24
day or yo look diverse as the Trump
25:26
and I always saw the numbers have really
25:29
gone up. Up. That being
25:31
said, ah we always have. Remember
25:33
Eddie Busier Or one the State
25:35
of Kentucky a Pro Choice Referendum
25:37
One the State of Can Be
25:40
Busier One I think in part
25:42
because I'm extraordinary out of young
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woman who was raped and was
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forced to carry your child. the
25:49
term. Of I'm I'm curious what
25:51
your thoughts are about Joe Biden going to
25:53
Florida as he was having a sign. says.
25:56
No, I don't think so and imports know
25:58
I will never tried Elixir, just. We're
26:00
about Florida, but you know, look at
26:02
a of really is about a national
26:04
issue and he's driving this across the
26:06
country. Barnacle My were just talking backstage
26:08
about. This is the issue the Joe
26:11
Biden needs to continue to drive down
26:13
and tell the kind of stories that
26:15
Bashir told. Have those people out with
26:17
him talking about why this is so
26:19
important than that will drive these numbers
26:21
across the battleground states. When you look
26:24
at the contrast, when you run campaigns,
26:26
you want contrasts in the contrast to
26:28
indulge. I'm sitting in a courtroom. Every
26:30
same crazy things and Joe Biden talking
26:33
about this unbelievable ever to take away
26:35
your fundamental rights such not just of
26:37
word issue. that's and all seven Battleground
26:39
States will see was around as of
26:42
battleground States in one hundred ninety seven
26:44
days. but it doesn't really matter. you
26:46
want to contrast and Floor is a
26:48
great place to do it as their
26:51
Supreme court looks at another one of
26:53
these crazy six weeks bans. Get.
26:55
Out of a Moscow we're talking about
26:57
that weather's and the democratic party even
27:00
met during that time. The buying White
27:02
house has like yawning ah whatever. we've
27:04
got a series of the case. it's
27:06
gonna work out. You would have the
27:08
friends of recent polls. Seems.
27:10
Like they may have been on to
27:12
something. Here's the latest Marist College Ball
27:15
as follows up on an Nbc News
27:17
poll that actually shows that would you
27:19
put Robert Kennedy Jr. Corner Wesson, Jill
27:21
Stein and Signs leads in this case.
27:24
Biden. Up by five points
27:26
over Donald Trump and the.
27:29
Through. In the margin of error I
27:31
but it's up from two point lead.
27:34
By. Held earlier this month. Them again
27:36
what I always say as a disorderly.
27:38
it's not about the bottom line is
27:40
about friend line, suggs or it's and
27:42
lines You've been saying cel. Look in
27:44
the twenty three polls in the past
27:46
month, Biden leads and ten Trump please
27:48
and eight and five are tied. You
27:50
know when you go to Dc, think
27:52
there's panic in the streets of D
27:54
C. As democrats I go. Oh my
27:56
God. the polls are terrible. Second know,
27:58
look the trend lines look at how
28:00
things are getting better and that's what
28:02
you really want to see right now.
28:04
you wanna see the numbers continue to
28:06
move and you want to see who
28:09
are F K is taking votes from
28:11
speakers. When you look at some models
28:13
to see you can't figure out why.
28:15
Don't really trust the polls is who's
28:17
a third parties taken votes from and
28:19
to just points. Now it looks like
28:21
she's taken more votes from Trump, which
28:23
makes sense. It's unlikely the Democrats are
28:25
going to want to vote for an
28:27
anti choice anti Vax are in the
28:29
middle. This. It. Makes sense that there will
28:31
be more Trump voters. It would look at
28:33
our of caves and biden voters for those
28:35
of trend lines were going to be watching
28:38
for the next hundred. Ninety Eight says Jim
28:40
you've always been boy us will be bothers
28:42
have been wedding the political bad over the
28:44
course of his campaign with the release of
28:46
every new swing staple spam and the theory
28:49
the cases Joe said has been we're going
28:51
to go out and to be states We're
28:53
going to rail against these these abortion laws
28:55
that we're gonna talk about the economic data
28:57
being strong. While. We still need to drive
28:59
down inflation is going to go on talk but
29:02
the things he's done as President while Donald Trump.
29:04
Is sitting in a courtroom and you're reminded
29:06
the allegedly paid off a porn star after
29:09
having an affair with her ex. interfere with
29:11
an election to classified documents. Fact is that?
29:13
What? What we're watching Finally right now. Is
29:15
this with the Biden Campaigns been talking about?
29:17
Allows the as a Biden can van and
29:20
abiding political seems probably the most underrated team
29:22
around. So much evil. Want to give them
29:24
grief and they've had a theory. The case
29:26
and the case is starting to work and
29:29
you know the contrast. We talk about contrasts
29:31
in political campaigns. You have to have the
29:33
counter as and. There's. No better contrasts to
29:35
the present doing his job and Donald
29:37
Trump's sitting in a courthouse everyday San
29:40
crazy. thanks. As part of the problem
29:42
has been, voters forgot about the bad.
29:44
Trump's the they didn't like, can even
29:46
see it might for two years like
29:48
that on their knowledge of social. they
29:50
don't see the crazy things he sang
29:52
it redux, were willing. Now they're starting
29:54
to and are starting to say oh
29:56
that's the guy I didn't like. You
30:00
know assembly line is interesting than and
30:02
I have you got into mags but
30:04
it's very interesting how these cases of
30:07
line dob. I think like a lot
30:09
of legal people are not send him
30:11
a legal person but I listen to
30:13
them. they come on my show. I
30:16
take copious notes. I think this man
30:18
and cases the weakest of the cases.
30:20
Bizarre. I would never brought it think
30:22
it's a week is Jay says the
30:24
strongest case is the documents case. but
30:27
the way things are lined up. And
30:30
again, it's just. The. Way
30:32
things are lined up, there's no Joe Biden
30:34
has nothing to do with any of this.
30:37
Though there was walking through the fever
30:39
swamps of other networks say he does.
30:42
But. This is, I think
30:44
the weakest legal case, but
30:46
politically. It's
30:49
probably the strongest case, because politically,
30:51
this is something people can put
30:53
their arms around. Hush. Money
30:55
payments, porn stars, My thought: How
30:58
and you've got all of this
31:00
chaos going on. And for the
31:03
people that when I sang they're
31:05
exhausted. For the people who are
31:07
exhausted. Yeah. No, they're not going to
31:09
be falling in this day in day out. But again,
31:12
a lot of I got us. that guy. Maybe.
31:14
I'm just not vowed. or maybe I'll vote
31:16
for Rfk. I mean it is again. I
31:19
think it's a week case. Legally I think
31:21
politically that we would be the last case
31:23
he would want. To start with. Saw.
31:27
You're saying you would rather not be
31:29
in a hushed money trial with the
31:31
bombing of affairs with a porn star
31:34
in your presidential campaign. Yeah I that
31:36
survive running your friends may I would
31:38
rather argue about the Presidential records act
31:40
seem and now is guilty of that
31:43
one. Why you know he? I yes
31:45
I do agree. I think the one
31:47
kind of weird caviar here is you
31:50
know we went through this and twenty
31:52
to see not obvious is a specific
31:54
spots and the Access Hollywood. Tape A
31:56
is what comes to mind. right? is like
31:59
in that moment. Everyone was just like
32:01
the bottom and fallen out. This was
32:03
done. Ah and we just obviously didn't
32:05
know we didn't know and people rally
32:07
behind Trump a novice an octave rather
32:09
and have enough people were a disaffected
32:11
with Hillary Clinton that it worked for
32:13
him. I don't think this is a
32:15
historical pero. I think to degree ah
32:17
you are absolute right I there's no
32:19
there's there's not a condom. this contrast
32:21
is not work for Trump's or it
32:23
doesn't work. And two degrees one is
32:25
that it's a reminds people of the
32:27
of the chaos of the of the
32:29
show. That surrounds him and Biden
32:31
for all flaws. gets to go
32:33
out there and do. Traditional.
32:36
Generic political speeches which helps with the contrast
32:38
that he wants to crates suddenly is any
32:40
size trump up and of courthouse. I had
32:42
a time when he needs to be during
32:45
a few things one is campaigning for the
32:47
other is really raising money. ah it's t
32:49
he's had got a real cash disadvantage and
32:51
in their this is what I would as
32:53
gym about like you know. Money
32:55
is the biggest currency or and campaigns.
32:57
but currency. Little currency also matters. And
32:59
and how does this just affect me?
33:02
campaign itself From the inability to have
33:04
a candidate's get on the road do
33:06
these events. he's tied in New York
33:08
for four days a week. stick a
33:10
new radio interviews he can do something
33:13
on Wednesday and the weekends. But.
33:15
That would just sickly has to be
33:17
extremely difficult right? Speed is Sam the
33:19
one thing you can't go get more
33:21
of in a campaign. His time in?
33:24
go, get more money to get a
33:26
new message. You can do lots of
33:28
things that you cannot know. get more
33:30
time and he knows that. that's why
33:32
lashing how he's sitting in this courtroom
33:34
day after day while his opponent is
33:36
out there on the hustings talking to
33:38
voters and so that sort of that
33:40
waste of time. We only have one
33:42
hundred ninety days her spend every day
33:44
sitting in the courthouse. That's the contrast.
33:47
You and Jo said the the magic
33:49
word which is the chaos. Voters look
33:51
at this chaos and say, do we
33:53
really want four more years of this
33:55
every day This kind of thing. It's
33:57
not really about porn stars or hush
33:59
money really. Reminding voters as a
34:01
cast it was the Trump for years
34:03
and why they don't want as again
34:05
and that's the contrast that is driving
34:08
Donald Trump crazy. Semi.
34:10
One underline: something you just sad
34:12
and and and which. Speaks.
34:14
To I: Donald Trump is is
34:16
going crazy sitting in that courtroom
34:18
and assembly lifestyle Even on a
34:20
running in a little congressional race
34:22
one of four hundred and thirty
34:24
five I would look at the
34:26
calendar. Eighteen. Months
34:28
out I go. Oh My. God. I don't
34:30
have enough time. I don't have enough time
34:32
I have all of this. Doesn't matter how
34:35
small the races or how big the race
34:37
as I will. I be such a range
34:39
president of a mountain and matters a lot.
34:41
With. Shot. Resource at
34:44
Precious Resource Time Don't care
34:46
what race are running and
34:49
you never have enough time.
34:52
Is your Donald Trump or if you're
34:54
running Donald Trump's campaign, what do you
34:56
do to try to Would just for
34:58
that? See. I think
35:00
you do with their do and which is
35:02
try to put him on shows, get him
35:05
on interviews, do hits. Here is calling into
35:07
a van he called into his rally the
35:09
other night that he didn't want to attend
35:12
because it was raining too hard for his
35:14
hair or good see like you're coming in
35:16
and do some of that stuff and then
35:18
you know I I'd put him on the
35:21
zone raising money like there's the cast stuff
35:23
and Sam was talking about his real they're
35:25
being badly out raise since that matters in
35:28
these battleground states you need. Money to go
35:30
on as you need money and turn your
35:32
vote outs. And so you'd put him on the
35:34
phone and start raising money. because right now
35:36
they're just getting buried in Sanders. And turns out.
35:39
Some was the want to give money to
35:41
pay legal bills for all these these trials.
35:43
They wanted to go to an election. so
35:45
let me just as quickly as the endeared
35:47
him over go back to the The Marist
35:49
poll about Rfk junior year. Democrats me talk
35:51
to them. They. Panic a
35:54
little bit and get this guy is that
35:56
you know it's families Democratic. His associate with
35:58
democratic politics is families and. Way and
36:00
he's going it. You may cause
36:02
Joe Biden, the Alexi think back
36:04
to Ross Perot got about nineteen
36:06
percent or fk Junior at fourteen
36:08
percent here. Should Democrats be concerned
36:10
about Rfk Junior polling as high
36:12
as he is right now? Absolutely.
36:14
We should be concerned about everything,
36:16
Willie. But especially in a race
36:18
works you know, even argue Hillary
36:20
Clinton lost in part because the
36:23
third parties can. Six percent. Democrats
36:25
still have Ptsd from two thousand
36:27
in Florida with Nader Spencer energy.
36:29
That's why it's. Say at Rfk
36:31
is that is the one thing that
36:33
makes the polls confusing because you just
36:35
don't know in what state who's pulling
36:37
votes for severe democrat or republican. Yeah
36:40
he's a thing you don't know about
36:42
and from a campaign manager status as
36:44
a keeps you up at night you
36:46
can control everything else but there's something
36:49
you can't control and that and and
36:51
let's be honest are of case something
36:53
you cannot control. Cel
36:55
up the Mussina grub. Jim Messina thank
36:58
you very much for coming on this
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forget, but to me a long and winding road to give
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the a book is this phase. I'm a big fan of
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yours. And. Are some things I want to talk
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about first. one of my pet peeves seems to be
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one of your pet peeves. and bad as. Some.
40:12
You. Know two million people have been killed in
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the sedan Civil war. I've been seen protests
40:17
and why you for that? Assad
40:19
killed five hundred arabs I didn't
40:21
see colleges burned down. Five hundred
40:23
thousand Arabs killed by his side.
40:26
Saddam. Hussein killed over a million
40:29
muslims and and wars. Idea.
40:31
I gasped them I I. I
40:33
didn't see protests there. Yet.
40:35
Your school was shut down right
40:37
now because Israel is responding to
40:40
the worst attack. Against
40:42
Jews worldwide since a whole cause
40:44
Help a sort through that to
40:46
walk into base hours on hi
40:48
Again, I don't know. algebra What?
40:51
I'm pretty good at the common
40:53
denominators here, and why there's no
40:55
common denominators and all of these,
40:57
it's just. That. It's
41:00
Jews defending their homeland. Kids, if
41:02
you look at the numbers, Even.
41:05
With American wars. They.
41:07
Don't add up. Our
41:09
first are good Be with you and I
41:11
especially appreciate your leadership on this is your
41:13
arguments More numbers. Twenty. Two hundred
41:15
American servicemen killed at Pearl Harbor. We
41:18
go on until two nationally Japanese, including
41:20
one thousand and one nine. Twenty.
41:22
Eight Hundred Americans. Nine Eleven. We going
41:25
to kill Four hundred thousand people in
41:27
Afghanistan and Iraq. We weren't
41:29
accused of genocide. You
41:31
had if if Mexico had elected a
41:33
jihad is cartel to run their country
41:35
and unanswered into taxes and on a
41:37
per capita basis killed thirty five thousand
41:39
people are the population, the universe is
41:42
axis and on the way back to
41:44
the freshman class at Awesome you hostage
41:46
and hit them under channels. What?
41:48
Would we do? You. Dig the great
41:51
Sonora radioactive parking lot. But.
41:53
Jews are not allowed in Israel, is not
41:55
allowed to prosecute a war, and they are
41:57
prosecuting a war more humanely them we have
41:59
done. Ratio of combatants
42:01
to civilians. His. Arm
42:04
of civilians as a combat mortality is lower
42:06
than a was in Mosul floor than was
42:08
in Japan lower was in Germany. So there's
42:10
just a different standard for Jews in Israel
42:13
when it comes to prosecute an award are
42:15
allowed to fight back to a truce but
42:17
unlike America or any other western nations just
42:20
attacked assists a slate and I love the
42:22
went to war with a double standard. Wet
42:25
Willy I've I've I've said
42:27
on the show consistently for
42:29
sixteen years. even before this
42:31
heinous Hamas attack. Set.
42:33
On a show for sixteen seventeen
42:35
years, If white
42:37
is dawn that to Israel
42:39
with missiles being fired and
42:41
them Israel. I consistently
42:44
by Hamas. If that
42:46
were done from Mexico into
42:48
taxes. We. Would be in
42:50
Mexico City, our tanks with and
42:53
a what would be surrounding Mexico
42:55
City by nightfall. Just. Wouldn't
42:57
put up with it. And. No country would.
43:00
Scare, especially after we saw on October
43:02
seventh and Scott we're talking well as
43:04
he sat down about what's happening on
43:06
your campus is happening up at Columbia.
43:08
Two very different scenes I think can
43:10
be some what's your tell me about
43:12
and why you. But.
43:15
What a lot of what we're hearing
43:17
than these protests and yet other are
43:19
outside agitators. Isn't even a bouts. The
43:22
war so much it's a it's
43:24
this. just open the floodgates of
43:27
anti semitism. It somehow October seventh
43:29
gay people cover to come out
43:31
from under their rocks and just
43:33
sent out loud the worst things
43:35
you can say about used in
43:38
other words a lot of what
43:40
we are on campuses don't just
43:42
protect the civilians. In Gaza
43:44
which we all agree needs to happen. But.
43:47
Kill more jews as what we're hearing and some
43:49
of these chance. Yeah,
43:51
wish we are time. Adam Scott camera on
43:54
October the sex and someone had asked me
43:56
the fate of anti semitism. Yeah I said
43:58
someone said it doesn't exist madam. This
44:01
was a level of hey on an iceberg
44:03
was ninety nine point nine percent below the
44:05
waterline but we did not have. I am
44:07
and I do think there is a double
44:09
standard. I bought by a my you last
44:12
I would I saw was peaceful protests but
44:14
I can tell you if I went into
44:16
the and my square with a wide hood
44:18
on and said Mr Black stubborn the gays
44:20
my Id would be shut off by that
44:23
night and I would never work in Academia.
44:25
Yeah, that would be no need for the
44:27
words, context or nuance. I wouldn't be protected
44:29
by terms like start. First. A minute or
44:31
free speech I would be out of the world
44:33
of academia. It seems like we have a double
44:36
standard. When. It comes to hate
44:38
speech as long as it's against Jews
44:40
and when I target with the exercising
44:42
of free speech and protests weekly people
44:44
and their spaces on campus to that
44:46
it's what they're saying is the harassments
44:48
of Jewish students. So what is that?
44:50
Why is there that double standard? Because
44:52
of course you're right. You don't even
44:54
have to say it out loud. Assists
44:56
if these things are being said about
44:58
black people. Are gay people or Latinos
45:00
Razor anybody else, Forget it. Shut down
45:02
the school, everybody's expelled. Why is there
45:04
still that double standards. I
45:06
think it's complicated. I think one young
45:08
people have a healthy gag reflex, some
45:11
our people our age next night and
45:13
I think that's healthy to. I don't
45:15
think Israel is raped itself and glory
45:17
Of the last twenty or thirty years
45:19
they've shifted from the in Canada David
45:21
to the Goliath. I also think that
45:23
incorrectly students on campus conflate the Civil
45:25
Rights movement with what is going on
45:27
in Palestine and have digress. Unfortunately, he
45:29
has been orthodoxy promoted by me or
45:31
my colleagues that are oppressors and oppressed
45:33
and the easiest way to identify oppressors
45:35
is how white. And how rich they are.
45:38
Fairly or unfairly, Israel is seen as ground
45:40
zero. For. Whiteness and how wealthy
45:42
they are and then what my some
45:44
foreigner me I'm wrong. I think we
45:46
are being manipulated specifically used to their
45:48
frame for the world is to talk
45:50
and if you look at to talk
45:52
their fifty two videos in a pro
45:54
Hamas of pro Palestinian for every one
45:56
served on Israel. I think that. We.
45:58
Are being manipulated? I think I'm. The easier for
46:00
the convincing Been fooled, but if I
46:02
were the Ccp I'd be doing exactly
46:05
the same thing I think: social media,
46:07
sewing division, and colorization our society. And.
46:09
At work Were lying. The Communist
46:12
Chinese. We really were allowing the
46:14
Communist Chinese to save the debate.
46:17
Their children. I'm glad the bill
46:19
passed in the house up this.
46:21
you know, I'm Scott that one
46:23
final thing and then I promise
46:25
we'll get your boss well as
46:27
much as say this and then
46:29
I'll go for a field in
46:31
another direction. But you know this
46:33
argument that European colonists I and
46:35
somehow this is colonization as in
46:37
Israel know Israel was created three
46:39
years after we discovered. That.
46:42
European colonists, Gas
46:45
Six. Million Jews.
46:48
And. So that inflation of
46:50
of of of and jews.
46:52
Who. Were gonna European
46:55
Jewry with planet. Use.
46:57
It would have the numbers in
46:59
Poland before the war. After the
47:02
war go go go country by
47:04
country and it was just absolutely
47:06
horrifying. So. This whole idea of trying
47:09
to throw this on Europe. Is
47:11
A again. It's just it's pure
47:13
madness. Why Is. Jordan
47:16
was coordinating anti drone missile technology airborne.
47:18
They were coordinated with Israel, the Kingdom
47:21
of Saudi Arabia. It ends up run
47:23
with support of Israel. So I would
47:25
ask these far left goods on campus.
47:28
What do their Arab brothers and sisters
47:30
know that you dance? And
47:32
is is this is a you
47:34
are. Like I said I've I've
47:37
absolutely never seen anything or anything
47:39
like that. It's rattling. To
47:42
Jews across the nation and I'd
47:44
I'd like to thank that. I'm
47:46
America stats asir I think the by the
47:48
administration has done a great job. But
47:51
yeah, I think young people over time
47:53
will look back and regret on their
47:55
views on it. And I think there's
47:57
outside forces out there. So you mentioned.
48:00
Oh God. I just that. I'm sorry. Go
48:02
well. I'll just ask you about the tick
48:05
tock band, that geology reference. Obviously they're on
48:07
their concerns now from Tic Tac moonlighting. They're
48:09
taking this seriously at this point that they
48:11
may have to sell. What are the odds
48:13
that this actually happens? In other words, that
48:15
Tic tac is not available or new versions
48:17
of tic tac are not available to people
48:19
in the United States. Want. To do
48:21
is find. imagine it's a cold or in
48:23
the sixties and the Kremlin own see the
48:25
same ambition. A B C The fact that
48:28
we let a neural flapjack be implanted into
48:30
the web matter One hundred seventy nine of
48:32
our youth. Would. Buy an adversary is
48:34
absolutely insane or not a lawyer, but I
48:36
believe the way they framed. A
48:38
lot more about trade symmetry and the fact that
48:40
it's executive action and I have nine to twelve
48:43
months' Banning. Was the wrong word?
48:45
Ban was wrong word. Disappear. Divestment. I've always
48:47
found in situations like this: money wins and
48:49
as both American and Chinese investors and out
48:51
about a quarter of a trying dollars on
48:54
the line, so my prediction would be you're
48:56
not gonna lose your tic toc and will
48:58
be divested. People make a lot of money
49:00
and we will restore the same type of
49:02
trade symmetry that that China demands. I'm not
49:04
going to list every American media company that's
49:07
been allowed to operate in China. Motown.
49:10
Done. This is about traders symmetry.
49:12
Not even. Now
49:14
not a raptor south in an argument
49:16
around first a mountainous. this is trade
49:19
symmetry. They would never let us do
49:21
this there. We. Allow bill Id in
49:23
the air because we have to us. We
49:25
allow we allow see and in here because
49:27
they have the north face and follow in
49:29
their market. They. Like know media companies
49:32
in there. It's crazy that we would
49:34
allow this. It. Is crazy
49:36
I'd say right away if we promise we
49:38
can get Stats Scots but. We.
49:40
Can do that? Yeah, be can
49:42
I. A little skittish, which is
49:44
the word algebra I. Now we're
49:46
getting. We're going
49:48
to talk about the but I'm
49:50
also going to ask God to
49:52
explain how are the entire process.
49:55
Is. And and he's a capitalist like
49:57
may accept the as a lot of money.
49:59
ah. Hum A process is
50:01
rigged the help the richest americans
50:04
they are sas your last Okay.
50:06
Elsa Stella had democratic senator Michael
50:08
Bennett of Colorado will join us
50:10
ahead of today's senate votes on
50:12
a major aid package for Ukraine
50:14
Plus will speak with the exiled
50:16
Crown Prince of Iran who says
50:19
Irans attack on Israel where the
50:21
actions have been increasingly week and
50:23
divided regime desperate to hang on
50:25
to power. Morning. Joe will
50:27
be right back. Saw
50:33
them. it's a few minutes of for
50:35
the top of the our and we
50:37
will be getting to the very latest
50:39
son of former President Donald Trump's criminal
50:41
hush money trial which resumes today at
50:43
eleven am. Before that there's a hearing
50:46
on the gag order, whether or not
50:48
he broke as knew what the consequences
50:50
the if any will get it out
50:52
and just a moment. but we're back.
50:54
The professor of Marketing at the and
50:56
why use Stern School of Business got
50:58
Galloway his new book entitled the Algebra
51:00
of Wealth, a simple formula for financial
51:02
security. And we're talking know the seems
51:04
so simple to me and were revoked but
51:07
shoot sports gear so scholarship your bought a
51:09
big big big first one so if you
51:11
will have I have seen you talked about
51:13
this and speeches soft about. How.
51:16
How the system is rigged
51:18
so. If you got a
51:20
million dollars gray to do that, Five
51:23
million Two million Even better. Life gets
51:25
easier because the way our taxes some
51:27
center. Yeah. We we have
51:29
a very progressive tax system until he gets
51:32
about the ninety nine for science and are
51:34
essentially the people who get most damage bar
51:36
current are scared it's lower middle com households
51:38
attacks would not have slowly because of consumption
51:40
the not because of federal the people to
51:43
really get hurt. Or what I
51:45
call the workhorses in our people who make an
51:47
exceptionally good living. but it's all current income. And.
51:49
I live in a blue state. they might be
51:52
paying fifty to fifty four percent tax rate of
51:54
at some of those people are on around the
51:56
samurai now. But if you can make the jump
51:58
to light speed and invest in assets, Housing.
52:01
Then. Your tax rate plummets. So in America
52:03
we decided to try and create a
52:05
super class of billionaires and then if
52:07
they win the gold medal were getting
52:09
the sober and the bronze to Vegas.
52:12
tax deductions, capital gains and mortgage interest
52:14
to on songs and sox people my
52:16
age who doesn't have a ransom make
52:18
some money from current income young people.
52:20
So. We decided that the wealthiest people in
52:22
the world to get are exceptionally more wealth
52:25
a minimum wage. Second Nine Twenty Five Stock
52:27
Market just screamed up the average seven year
52:29
old a seventy two percent wealthier than the
52:31
Were Forty years ago, that the average person
52:34
under the age of forty is twenty four
52:36
percent less wealthy we were. We are purposely
52:38
transferring more wealth from the poor and middle
52:41
class city and an upper class to the
52:43
super rich and from young to old and
52:45
you sort say in the book which is
52:47
true, an alarming, but it serves as the
52:50
said thirty. Year old American air in
52:52
America right now is doing know better
52:54
than his or her parents than as
52:57
a new phase in American history that.
52:59
You. Would think over time. Yeah, we want
53:01
to do better than the next generation. The
53:03
the last generation so happening anymore. I
53:06
think it all ties into the by retired Mount
53:08
On campuses. For. The first time our nation's
53:10
history a third year old man or woman
53:12
isn't doing as well as his or her
53:15
password. Thirty. That is the social compact breaking
53:17
down people aged thirty to thirty four, Sixty
53:19
percent of them and ninety nine day had
53:21
one child outs twenty seven percent. People.
53:24
Are opting out of America. They're
53:26
not optimistic about of the not
53:28
having kids. Young people on having
53:30
sex they're not meeting. Do not
53:32
meeting that's full of emotionally and
53:34
economically viable. man shrinks every day,
53:36
which lessons household formation. So we
53:39
have a real issue. Young people
53:41
are enraged, so it turns every
53:43
caught every movement into an opportunistic
53:45
infections because quite frankly they are
53:47
just pissed off a look up.
53:49
They see wealth, exceptional wealth across
53:51
my generation of people on certain.
53:54
Industries. And. They are really
53:56
struggling, their purchasing power is going down
53:58
and the incumbents create artificial skin. The
54:00
on campus we take pride in rejecting
54:02
nine percent of our applicants. so the
54:04
incumbents you already have a degrees to
54:06
the degree go up in value. We
54:08
get very concerned with housing and traffic.
54:10
once me on a housing housing permits
54:13
are are sequester from young people. housing
54:15
prices are gotten to ninety to for
54:17
twenty in the last four years. So
54:19
a young person a house stocks that
54:21
I don't own skyrocketing value. Let's have
54:23
covered relief and slush the markets and
54:25
take assets way out because of a
54:27
million people dying would be bad, would
54:29
be tragic. If I got less wealthy
54:31
and I were doing it on their
54:33
credit cards. Young people have every reason
54:35
to be enraged and every issue they
54:38
see they look up, they get angry
54:40
and I see someone doing better than
54:42
them and in every day at a
54:44
speed ball than their face that they
54:46
are feel that they are not doing
54:48
as well as everyone around them. We
54:50
have lost a script, Arts is more
54:52
anxious or depressed, summer obese, more addicted
54:54
and we have made a purpose all
54:56
decision to let this happen by ensuring
54:58
the people around this table stay. Well
55:00
see if the cost a young people
55:02
to Scott what's the social element of
55:04
that has economic out the social elements
55:07
that you mentioned? the happiness, the anxiety,
55:09
all of the things that kids are
55:11
getting together anymore that they're not having
55:14
kids. What? Happened in one generation.
55:16
Social media has to play a role
55:18
in that I'm sure. but what else
55:20
do you seats that is created This
55:22
climate for this generation. I.
55:24
Think of the most talented, well resourced
55:26
people in the world and companies trying
55:28
to convince a young man. That.
55:30
He can have a reasonable facsimile of
55:32
lives in his basement behind a screen.
55:34
You don't need friends who on Reddit
55:37
or discourse you don't need to get
55:39
a job to on robin Hood or
55:41
coin base and trade crypto in stocks.
55:43
You don't need to go to the
55:45
rejection in the expanse me, humiliation and
55:47
working out and having a plan and
55:49
humor and showering to get romantic relationship.
55:51
you have you porn. So we have
55:53
an entire generation, especially of young man
55:55
who are out home sequestering from society.
55:58
And. Missing out on what it means. There's
56:00
a reason romantic comedies or two hours and
56:02
are fifteen minutes to victory and life is
56:05
hard going out, meeting someone, finding mentors, finding
56:07
mates. That stuff is hard, but that's what
56:09
real victory in real life is like. And
56:11
because a lot of men feel rejected on
56:14
dating apps, the number of jobs as are
56:16
accessible to them as gone down. You have
56:18
essentially a group of Madras and I want
56:20
a low risk entry and allies and they
56:22
go down a rabbit hole. When they don't
56:25
have social connections they don't get out now
56:27
on have a prospect of romantic relationships are
56:29
more prone. To conspiracy theories are more
56:31
prone to massage and us to contact
56:33
the less likely to believe in climate
56:36
change change. In someday tom become really
56:38
bad citizens. we are producing too many
56:40
of the most dangerous person in the
56:42
world and that as a young, broke
56:44
and lonely young man why is it
56:46
that so many of these young people
56:49
that you're talking about seem to said
56:51
it's allies after going to have four
56:53
year schools are to your schools or
56:55
whatever said into life with a lack
56:57
of financial literacy they don't know anything.
57:00
About Money Of the Growth of money. All
57:02
he knows: the absence of. I
57:05
think we need to have a and
57:07
are curriculums from high school A class
57:09
on a dolphin. Might it I say
57:11
to my house my to my to do in a
57:13
jurors and base attack us but he doesn't understand the
57:15
interest on his credit card. So. There's
57:17
some basic kind of financial literacy that
57:20
we're not teaching. and when you when
57:22
you start replacing civics with computer science,
57:24
use a sense of the country and
57:26
you start learning about programming. And when
57:28
you don't talk about basic financial literacy
57:30
or even made an alibi to see
57:33
in the senior year of college mating
57:35
dynamics and help men understand and women
57:37
was you need to them and their
57:39
vulnerabilities to social media, Socking about the
57:41
challenges of men from social media at
57:43
exactly the wrong time and a young
57:46
girl's life she has presented. With evaluation
57:48
where she never gets to leave the
57:50
high school cafeteria twenty four by seven
57:52
and as my colleague Jonathan highest point
57:54
it out we've seen a dramatic uptick.
57:57
In. Suicide that I think a sect of we we
57:59
just don't have. The basic skills for young
58:01
people were not were teaching them advance thanks
58:03
to were not sitting in the basics around
58:06
what a mortgages when interest rates man so
58:08
I think we could use just a base
58:10
a class on adults and junior senior year
58:12
in high school. Sky carrying case got a
58:15
question for Uk. Scott Adults:
58:17
I have four kids between ages of eighteen
58:19
and Ceci New. App party. You know you're
58:21
talking back exactly. What I hear from them
58:24
all the time. You haven't mentioned climate change
58:26
yet, which is the other thing that I
58:28
are mad at. All of us are destroying
58:30
in their lives. But the bullet the title
58:33
of the book sounds like you have hope.
58:35
Ah, or at least some kind of positive
58:37
message said. Let's end the conversation that you
58:40
have identified things that young people. Can.
58:42
Do relatively. Easily
58:45
it sounds like within their. Grasp if they just
58:47
for their minds to it, that would help their
58:49
financial prospects. What are they. Are
58:51
of find your focus new talent. Find.
58:54
Of Passion is terrible. Advice and persons are you
58:56
to find your passion is already rich, Find something
58:58
you'd be great at. Maybe the top ten percent
59:01
in this is t that as and ninety five
59:03
percent employment rights and the less Sexy does more
59:05
likely to return on your human capitals Gonna be
59:07
greater. To focus on
59:09
try and push back on a farm
59:12
species remote Georgia retirements. Finally I'm with
59:14
long and thirty five years to young
59:16
people can't recognize heard and be around
59:18
for six or seven years. I mean
59:20
how fast as are gone mean into
59:22
time Low cost you to yes only
59:24
eleven percent. hear that? sounds awful. Guess
59:26
what that means Every twenty years he
59:29
are increasing your wealth eightfold Diversification. You
59:31
don't need to be a hero, don't
59:33
try and find a needle in a
59:35
haystack. I've been around the brightest minds
59:37
of finance. My summary: Is no one
59:39
has any idea. By the whole haystacks, let
59:41
it grow slowly. And I time
59:43
take over like diversification take over and
59:46
a little bit of stoicism. Recognize that
59:48
people aren't as impressed with your stuff
59:50
as you are Developer savings muscle. be
59:52
the first some of the plan b
59:54
the boring person and start saving early
59:56
and you'll wake up. And if the
59:58
are bollard you don't sell. But you
1:00:00
don't go public. That's okay. You're going out financial
1:00:02
security by the time you're orange. The good news
1:00:05
is I know how to get to Rich. The
1:00:07
bad news is the answer is slowly. When.
1:00:09
Less than a while ago we can talk
1:00:11
to all morning. Gas Money. In fact you
1:00:14
writing the book is happiness contrary to what
1:00:16
you heard in none some slipway but in
1:00:18
that your health care is better, your housing
1:00:20
is better be they have a to if
1:00:23
you follow them these steps and others. It
1:00:25
affords you a lifestyle that succeed better for
1:00:27
you and your happiness. America becomes
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more like of self every day. It's
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a loving, generous place to people with
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money. It's a rapacious, violent place for
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people. Without. Money. This.
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Is. You. Know and that the
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whole shooting match is to get very
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focus on financial security such that the
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to use that as a means to
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the ads and the answer cross every
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study around happiness is deep and meaningful
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Relationships with money has meant for me
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an economic security is it frees me
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up such that I can focus on
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cementing the key relationships my life and
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I would wish after everyone the new
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book as the algebra of Wealth, a
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simple formula for financial security for suppressor
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marketing at the N Y U. Stern
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School of Business. Scott Galloway Boy we.
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Can talk to for four hours. They
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like a mascot for being here percent
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you time for a quick break to
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talk about Mcdonalds mornings of for mixing
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and matching at Mcdonalds for just three
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dollars mix and match to have your
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favorite breakfast items including a sausage Mcmuffin
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Sauces, Biscuit sauces, burrito in has browns
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make it even better with a delicious
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medium iced coffee with Mcdonalds mix and
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match he can't go wrong. Price and
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participation may vary. Cannot be combined with
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any other offer a combo meal, single
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item. At regular price.
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