E133 - Imagine realizing deep into your marriage, your typical husband-wife marriage with kids, that you are seeking a deeper connection. Imagine making that connection with someone who happens to be your same sex. Imagine falling in love. What would you do? How would you handle your feelings and the decisions you make? What's next? Hear the story of Stephanie Smith and Michele Baker, later in life loves (so many L-words!), and how they are managing their new path together, their families, and their thoughts on pride. They tell their Glennon Doyle and Abby Wombach meetup story, the one in which Joelle mixes up her lesbians! And not only do they answer our questions about religion and community, but graciously our questions about the physicality of it all. We even dish on our own experiences! They offer advice to those in a similar situation and paint a picture of what life can be like outside the closet. Thank you to our wonderful guests for sharing their brave stories. This is a heartfelt and fun talk that we hope you'll hear and pass along. Love is love, and the world needs a lot more love and understanding right now!

Michele can be reached via her wonderful public relations and communications company https://www.MamboComm.com, where authenticity and core values are key to strategy. And Stephanie can be found via Joelle because they've been friends forever!

Find Michele Baker at https://www.MamboComm.comGlennon Doyle's story in her book Untamed https://www.amazon.com/Glennon-Doyle/e/B073C6SQY1LGBTQ+ Resources at https://TheSafeZoneProject.comA Google search of “[city name] LGBTQ+ center” will bring up any center if your closest city has one, and by visiting, you can make connections with members of the community.Facebook Groups to search: https://www.Facebook.com/Groups/If you or someone you know is at risk, call an LGBTQ+ crisis hotline like LGBT National Hotline at 888-843-4564

Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/RXKK-4Opplc

Outline00:00 - Introductions02:00 - Pride04:42 - Stephanie's story12:47 - Dream Dinners mouseandweens9914:24 - Michele's story27:58 - Who is Glennon?30:20 - When Steph and Michele met32:45 - Coming Out37:20 - Glennon and Abby meetup40:39 - Coming Out, continued49:12 - Political, social, religious thoughts58:46 - Physical stuff, advice1:04:53 - Stereotypes and labels1:07:42 - Mambo Communications strategy1:10:02 - Our experiences1:12:52 - Jealousy and their relationship now

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