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Welcome to Movie Crush, a production

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of I Heart Radio. Hey

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everybody, welcome to Movie Crush Friday

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Interview edition with

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Justin McElroy, one of the uh,

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one of the McElroy brothers. And if you're a fan of

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podcasting, that's probably all I need to say. But if

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you don't know the McElroy brothers, I'm

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talking about Justin, the eldest,

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Travis McElroy, who's right there in the middle, and then

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little baby brother Griffin. Griffin has been on the

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show. You remember him from Groundhog Day kind

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of early on in Movie Crush. And

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these guys are great. They're friends of mine. Uh.

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They do my brother, my brother and me. They do uh

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the Adventure Zone. Um, Justin

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and his his lovely wonderful wife,

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Sydney, who was a medical doctor, do saw Bones,

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which is a great podcast about kind

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of weird medical history. Um,

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it's the family business. They do Adventure Zone with

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their dad, who's also a great guy. I've at dinner with

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him with him once and

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they're they're good dudes. I

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met them through um, like

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I've met so many people at max Fun Con

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through the Max Fun Network with my buddy

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Jesse Thorne. So many great things have come my way because

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of that. And we

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hung out at Max fun Con quite a few times.

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They've been there a few times with me, sometimes

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with the wives, sometimes without, and

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I've gotten another families and I just

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couldn't speak more highly of Justin and

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the gang. They're they're good people and they

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do great work. My brother, My Brother and Me is

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a dare I say, a

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legendary comedy podcast

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at this point here, at ten years in, they've

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got a great following. Check it out. It's

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technically an advice show, but

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it's really much more than that. It's just good comedy

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from three very very funny brothers, and

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here we go. His pick was With Nail

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and I, the seven comedy

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indie comedy out of England from

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writer and director Bruce Robinson. If you haven't seen

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this movie, and I say this in the episode, you

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can stream it, I believe, only on the Criterion

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channel, which you can get a two week free trial

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of and then cancel if you want. But I would keep it

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because Criterion does great stuff. But

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if you haven't seen With Nail and I, please please

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seek it out. It is um

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great in every way, one of my favorite

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movies and this was Justin's pick. So

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here we go with the great Justin McElroy

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on with Nail and I. How

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you doing? Yeah? Good good?

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You look well? Well thanks, I feel

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well, feel great. We couldn't be better?

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Is everyone? Is everyone healthy?

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How? How are the kids? How's Sydney? How's that? No? One

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of the kids got Okay?

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Is this the show? Are we just talking? This

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is the show? This is going to be I never felt

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like the show. It felt like Show Chuck,

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you know what I mean, They're very different. It's

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very different vibe. You

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don't get so inquisitive. Regular

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Chuck doesn't remember that I have children. He's

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like show Chuck is

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like all dad, like now,

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um, so okay, this is really weird. But

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uh, one of the kids, the

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little one, Cooper, she's too and

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she started throwing up and it's

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like, wait, like how

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I mean, that's been the wildest thing about when

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you have two kids, like or any kids.

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I guess they're just sick constantly. It's

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like every month or just six

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six six six, But they haven't been getting sick,

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like there's no germs for

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to get them, right, so they're being sick. Sorry,

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how does she get sick? Then we start to look around

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get a tick on her, and then

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we think, yeah, so I think she got some sort

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of weird like tickborn illness

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like Rocky Mountains out of fever or something wild

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like that. Not that claimed uh

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like half of my brother's peripheral

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vision Griffin that when

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he was a kid, and he lost some sight his eye. So

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we're pretty worried about it. So we started treating her right

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away, and we got to indulge.

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This kid hates taking medicine so

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much that I have started

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to wonder like maybe she should just go a little

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bit blind, you know what I mean, Like maybe

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just a little bit of vision loss. And then we

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would be like, Okay,

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well, I guess nature. Nature takes

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its course. No, it's a serious, serious

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illness, and of course I won't but it's

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a it's a struggle. Other than that, you

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know, they's fine. They're going like pretty

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buck wild, I would say, like just

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staying at home, constantly constantly

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asking us if we can if they can go, like to

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the playground or to Great Wolf

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Floods or Disney World or anyway

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all the bad places you can't go. Uh

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So they're pretty sure crazy, but them

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that you know, hanging in there,

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which are you? I'm good man, We're

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fine. We're healthy. No one's gotten

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COVID yet, although quite

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a few people in my circle have and that's

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always a little scary. Um,

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But yeah, we're fine. I mean, I think, like everyone,

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we sort of settled into things, uh,

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and this is the new normal for now.

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We're trying to figure out school, like

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all parents are, what do you guys do? Do you know?

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I haven't really decided. We're still waiting to see kind

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of what the plan for the local

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school board is going to be, to see

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what they because Charlie was in pre K last

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year and would be going into kindergarten.

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Now, we're just

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now in that area where like if you don't send

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your kids to school, the government's like, you

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do have to send up the school. You

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actually do have to do that. So we're gotta

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forgot something. So even for kindergarten,

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is that like a that counts as

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its like counts as like attendance and you

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know, yeah, I think

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what we're looking at right now is a potentially

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doing a little micro school with her and through

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four other families, maybe go

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school for ants. A

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movie movie called Zoo

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landerd as long as we're talking about films

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so bright here Chuck hold on, Oh

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there he goes. He's bringing in the mood lighting

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very nice. Yeah, it's intimate. Oh

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wow, justin after dark. Yeah.

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Uh, you know what I was just thinking today of when

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you and Uh in Sydney and Charlie

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came to town. This is before Cooper and

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we all went to the zoo and on

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the way into the zoo, it's a good

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zoo. But I made the joke. I

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was like, you know, if we recorded this zoo outing,

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we could probably release it as a podcast and make

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ten dollars

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easy Casper with sponsor that just

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like a one a one off McElroy

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and Bryant zoo outing, and

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now we'll get our ten thousand dollars. Because

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advertisers are like so excited

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to spend money right now. They're just going wild

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with the stuff, spreading

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it out like making a rain, like master

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p in the club, just like dumping

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out buckets of cash.

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How are things with their brothers? I haven't I haven't checked

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in with those guys lately. You know, like,

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um, we have seen

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uh, Travis and Teresa. We saw

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once after we

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had all like I mean we've all been you

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know, quarantining and we're all healthy,

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so we we we we did do that

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at one point. Uh Graff,

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I have not seen since. You

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know, they're doing

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fine. Griffin keeps like taking

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on projects around his house. He got

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really he loves in Austin. He got really mad about the bamboo

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around his house. So apparently he bought a chainsaw

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and just started cutting down bamboo and throwing it into

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a wood chipper. Like that's how he's spending his time.

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It sucks, man. Like we were we were uh,

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you know, we had a pretty good rhythm there because

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we were touring like once a month for

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a weekend, and our kids were hanging out. We

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were getting to hang out. You know. It's

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just sort of and it's by by no means

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the

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the worst, not even the top

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one million of worse things about COVID,

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but like it's been a bummer

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for like for not getting

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to see each other, I mean business

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things aside, because that was like

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a pretty when it first happened,

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we were like, we had shows booked

8:37

basically for the rest of the year. We had our

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whole tour lined up, and

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when it first happened, we were all like, well,

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I hate to do it, but I think we're gonna have to cancel

8:47

these shows in late March. And you know what,

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maybe I'm a little worried about the ones in

8:52

early April. Late April will be fine,

8:55

but like early April, I'm pretty worried

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about Now. It's like, well, see

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everybody in one Yeah,

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maybe hopefully

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right. I mean I don't know that will be the lesson,

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you know, as big events like that, unless

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it's a fucking Trump rally,

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And we are in no no rush

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to be the vanguard of that, as

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much as we miss each other and our fans, like,

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we're in no rush to be the first on

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the on the scene there.

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No, I mean, who who would want to have the responsibility

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of bringing, you know, a couple of thousand

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people together in a room and having two

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percent of those people get sick. Well

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with our listeners, they nasty, So it's

9:36

going to be twenty to thirty. I

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mean it will be a blood bath. Uh.

9:41

Speaking of that home projects, I want to talk a little

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bit about your woodworking. Oh, thank god,

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finally something I really care about. Dude,

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wol did you learn to do this stuff? Have you always had these

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skills or tell everyone what have you been doing.

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I've had a um. Wood

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working has been my lifelong obsession since

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late May. I

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uh I got a Sydney said

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she wanted to because she wanted to get into gardening.

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She wanted a garden box, like an elevated

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garden box, because our dirt here is

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um bad bad dirt. Didn't

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know till it became a homeowner you could

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have bad dirt and good dirt, bad

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dart. It doesn't do anything. So

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she was like, I want a garden box. I was like, well, my

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bunny, Amazon, get your garden box real quick. I'm

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looking and look at I'm looking at It's like there's

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nothing, there's nothing. That was how we wanted.

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And she said, she said, let the

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record show. She said,

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I bet you could maybe build

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one. And I was like, yeah,

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right, it's made out of wood and there's no absolutely

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no way. And then I went and got I

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started looking up stuff and I was like, okay, I could do this.

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I could get like I got a circular saw,

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and I got some plywood or some

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some uh boards

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and and went to go make this garden

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box. And I made this garden box. It's

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like eight ft by eight foot looks like crap

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and it's terrible. And I

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was as I was looking at I was like, this is all I care

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about, this is all I want to do. There's

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just something about I have been

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someone who has been working

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in like in words,

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in ephemeral content. For I mean

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since I was fifteen

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years old, been writing on the Internet,

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so either writing on the Internet or talking into

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the internet, um, all very

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ephemeral stuff. Uh. And then

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seeing something that I had made, like

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physically made. Uh, just

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especially in these these times when like progress

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on things seems to be so hard to come by.

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Um, it's just like I like I was like basically

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high off of it, like the idea of like making something

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and seeing it. Uh. And so I

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just got really obsessed.

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There's a guy, Steve Ramsey,

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does a course called, of

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course, it's called the Weekend Woodworker, and

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it's basically like a project a week kind of deal. So I've

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been chucking my way through those

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in addition to like other projects

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X that I've been wanting that I wanted, like we wanted

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a table for this banquette that we have, uh,

12:07

thank you. It was like very intimidated

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to make it. It's an interesting thing about woodworking though,

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is like I made that in the same

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week as I made a paper tray

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for my father in law. Um,

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and the

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paper tray was so much harder, and

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no one appreciates that. They look at a big thing and they're

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like, WHOA, that's big. That must have been really hard.

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That's not hard. There's lots of places. There's

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lots of places to hid your screw ups there,

12:32

Like I can. I can mess up there all day.

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I just put a little uh fix on it. It's

12:36

harder to do them the

12:39

smaller stuff. It's also fun as I've been using

12:41

these for like gifts for people,

12:43

because like I don't want to keep all this wood stuff around my

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house that I make, uh So I like,

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yeah, right, there's no

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What I've learned is that there's no when you make

12:54

something yourself like that, there is

12:56

no reaction that

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you can get from the recipient that

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will begin to fill the labor gap

13:04

of like you know what I mean. Like, I

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handed it to my father in law who's not expecting

13:09

it, and to his credit, he was like, oh, thanks,

13:11

that's that's really nice to you to do. And I'm like,

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sit down, let me show you this hand stippling.

13:16

Yeah, this took me three hours.

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I gave myself carpal tunnel syndrome. I've to

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sleep in a brace like like,

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let me walk you through all the different minor cuts

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I made. Look at this one. Look how clean

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these angles are? Three great

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sand paper I did. Thank you for Dude, we

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are the same person. I got into

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woodworking probably like ten

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years ago with just uh sort of big

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I'm decent at big, chunky things because like

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you said, it's a lot easier. So I built

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some tables. I built like potters and planners,

13:46

benches and just little

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things here and there never any kind of

13:50

fine woodworking at all. But uh, I

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cannot just say here, Emily, I'm done. There

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has to be a big fucking presentation. Oh

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yeah, yeah, yeah I have. I have literally went

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went like hidden stuff. When I know she's

14:02

gonna be downstairs where my workshop is,

14:04

I'll like go hide stuff in the workshop so she doesn't

14:07

see anything like like ready, And

14:09

then she was always like, what do you want me to do? Like I build

14:11

a yellow, yellow patio table that looks like

14:13

I kind of bought it at Walmart for thirty bucks,

14:15

right, And I built him like, tont what

14:17

do you think it's yellow h

14:20

T D Generation, which it's all about the reveal.

14:23

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Oh

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man, that's great. Maybe i'll h with your permission,

14:27

I'll throw a couple of your pieces up on my Instagram.

14:30

Yes, goes out so people know what the hell we're talking about.

14:33

Um, how are all the shows doing? And for

14:35

the benefit of the listener that I

14:38

mean, like the two or three people that don't know who

14:40

you are. You're flattering

14:42

here. You're one of the three McElroy

14:44

brothers along with Griffin, now

14:46

we know of that's true, along with Griffin

14:49

who did Groundhog Day very early

14:51

on. Travis has not been on yet. Um,

14:54

and I was waiting to see how you guys in person, but now

14:56

it's just this is what's going on. So I figured why not.

14:59

Uh, and guys have my brother, my brother

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and me. You have Adventure Zone. You

15:04

and your wife Sidney, who is a medical doctor, have

15:06

Sawbones. Uh. Just

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tell everyone a little bit about all those so they

15:10

can go from you. That's basically, I mean, those are

15:12

the three biggest ones that we make the

15:14

My brother, My brother made an advice show, sort

15:17

of a bad advice show that we've been doing

15:19

for ten years now. It's sort of like

15:21

our I guess if you want to say

15:23

flagship product, Yeah, for sure.

15:25

It's basically just the three of us sitting around telling bone

15:27

or jokes about gusts. Um the best.

15:30

Thank You. The Adventure Zone is

15:33

a actual play role playing podcast

15:35

we do with our dad, who was great. Thank

15:38

you. Um, I don't know why I thank you. I

15:40

have nothing to do with my dad being great. Uh.

15:42

And well, actually, I mean we've we

15:44

said a lot of rough edges off not

15:47

to get too deep in the woodworking slide profit

15:49

of a little. Um. The The

15:52

Adventure Zone we turned into a so

15:54

my brother, my brother me we did a six episode

15:56

I'm going to call it a mini series on

15:58

the now failed comedy streaming

16:01

service See So that NBC trying to get

16:03

going. Uh. The Adventure

16:05

Zone we turned into a graphic novel

16:08

uh series that releases like one

16:11

with the newest one of those is coming up, is the third

16:13

one is coming out? And here in uh

16:15

like July think um

16:18

and a board game uh

16:21

and stuff like that. And then saw Bones

16:23

is a medical history show that I do with my wife

16:26

who's a position and she's one

16:28

very smart and too like is really into

16:30

medical history stuff like weird medical history, leeches

16:33

and like that. So every

16:35

week we'd take a new um very

16:37

much inspired as so many of us

16:40

are. I think by the stuff you should know format um

16:43

take it, take a topic and and do

16:46

a deep dive on it with one of with her

16:48

sort of educating me on it um

16:51

And we did a book based on that show in

16:53

October. I think that

16:55

looked terrific. Yeah, thank you,

16:57

it was. I was proud of how it came out. And

17:03

did some smaller joff I do I do the Empty Bowl,

17:05

which is a meditative serial podcast

17:08

with my friend Dan Gilbert who runs a serial

17:10

website called seriallesly dot Net.

17:13

I do us and the guys who run

17:15

the Worst Idea of All Time do

17:18

an annual Paul Blart

17:20

Mall cop two reviewed cast till

17:24

till Death Do us Blart. It's

17:27

it's so fun to do. It's actually weird

17:29

to have something that we're releases annually

17:31

because it's just like we have to keep the

17:34

premise of the show is. In addition to this

17:36

recording of it, we have each pick successors

17:40

who, in the event of one of our

17:42

deaths will take our

17:44

place in the show. So

17:46

it is the world's very first eternal

17:51

podcast. Um, who's your

17:53

success? Um,

17:56

who's my Oh it's my daughter Charlie,

17:58

so she has um.

18:01

Uh. Travis is Stewart Wellington

18:04

from the flophouse who frequently sends

18:06

Travis like emergency and

18:09

different immunos boosting

18:11

uh drugs just to keep him alive.

18:14

Um. And I think that we used to do one

18:16

called the Macary Brothers will be Introls World

18:18

Tour and then we

18:20

were so we don't have to do that podcast anymore because

18:22

we were in the Controls World Tour. That so

18:25

funny, I mean, and that that literally came about

18:27

because you guys did that show right, Yeah,

18:31

it was. It was very much a

18:33

visualization, you know, the

18:36

secret law of attraction as the

18:38

universe and let the universe provide. Um,

18:40

is there gonna be a follow up? What's your next thing you

18:42

want to try and materialize? Um,

18:46

we haven't had that. We haven't put

18:48

the time into it. We tried to get on the tonight show.

18:50

That probably a lot easier now, wouldn't it.

18:53

Uh, try to go with Nigea for a while. I've

18:55

never really worked out Um,

18:57

and I don't know. We're busy with actual

19:00

like stuff. Weirdly

19:02

at this point, um when I was many like

19:04

pie in this Guy, and it's mainly about like

19:06

we can make our own podcasts. We can't get into TV

19:08

and movies, but I was making those anymore. Right,

19:11

We're trying, you know, it's it's it's tough, but

19:13

but we have the last laugh because we can

19:16

just be in our basement and do our thing. Yes,

19:19

so suckers, I have been for a better part

19:21

of years. Well,

19:23

I'm finally in the basement. Um, you know, Josh,

19:26

and I've been recording remotely during this whole time.

19:28

I go, I do Movie Crush

19:30

down here, but I actually have been going into

19:32

the office, my completely

19:34

empty office, to do stuff you should know, just because

19:37

we had I've had a couple of audio issues here

19:39

in the basement, and for Movie Crush it's passable,

19:42

but you know stuff you should know. You gotta gotta

19:44

keep that ship, like sound proofing kind

19:46

of issues or just like no, uh,

19:49

we lost one episode because of the unit

19:52

that I was recording into had a hardware failure.

19:54

And then the last couple of shows, I've

19:56

had some like crackling and I think

19:58

I have like a bad Mike cable, but I don't know that

20:01

because I'm not listening to it live, right,

20:04

But stuff, you should know. You can't look around like that. You

20:06

gotta make that ship perfect profession.

20:08

That's right. Uh. Well, I'm

20:11

glad everything is cruising along with you guys. I

20:13

figured everyone was. I was

20:15

doing well. But yeah, we're hanging in there. It's

20:18

good to see you man, Good to see you too.

20:20

Check. Well, this has been great. All right, let me know if

20:22

you ever want me to be on your podcast movie Crush.

20:32

Uh. So, let's dive into with Nail. Well,

20:34

actually, before we dive into Dad, I want to talk a little

20:36

bit about movies in your youth. I'd talked to

20:38

Griffin about sort of what it was like

20:41

growing up in the Mcarroy household movie

20:43

wise, and he that was so long

20:46

ago, though, I think people would love to hear a little bit

20:48

about just sort of the culture that was coming

20:50

your way and where it was coming from and that kind

20:52

of thing. I

20:54

mean, it was very much dictated by our

20:56

dad. I think our dad was like an old

20:59

school like one of those

21:01

real like comedy fans, you know what I

21:03

mean. Like he was a morning DJ for

21:05

forty years who did a lot of like

21:07

all comedy work there. But like Dad

21:10

was the one who got us deep into like,

21:12

um, Kids in the Hall

21:14

and melt Brooks and m St. Three K

21:17

and stuff like that. So there was a lot

21:19

of like old comic

21:22

like Marx Brothers and you

21:25

know that that sort of vibe. Um,

21:28

as much as we would tolerate in our young

21:30

age, you know, we didn't appreciate things that didn't

21:32

have a lot of fart jokes in them back then. Um.

21:35

But then like yeah, right right

21:37

exactly. And then like I don't

21:39

know, we would get fixated on movie

21:41

like bad movies sometimes that we would

21:43

just rewatch. Not bad, but just like

21:46

this is movie Meet the Deals about two

21:48

brothers that were park Rangers, and was

21:51

like yeah, uh, we would watch that a

21:53

hunter times watched The Stupids starring

21:55

Tom Arnold like a ba jillion times.

21:58

Um. I don't know why. They would just be certain

22:00

movies that like delighted us and we would watch I

22:02

know, Griffin and Travis watched Kung Pao

22:04

Enter the Fist like I mean literally

22:06

a hundred times in our in our youth, um,

22:11

and I think that that was like rewatching

22:13

stuff was a big thing. We weren't allowed to see our rated

22:15

movies until we were adults, so

22:18

like there was very little sort

22:20

of like horror or I

22:23

mean one time I was at a kid's sleepover and

22:25

they were watching I'll Never Forget Sleepaway Camp

22:28

three, I want to say two or three, and

22:31

I actually called my mom to come pick

22:33

me up because I was so scared. Both

22:35

of like both of like the movie, but

22:37

just like it felt just like it

22:40

felt like watching my friends play with a loaded gun.

22:43

Right, guys, we are not we

22:45

are not supposed to be doing this. This

22:47

is terrifying. That was the same way, man I

22:49

was. I've told the story before, but my first

22:51

R rated movie was Escaped from New York and there

22:53

was a little church youth group kid together

22:56

and that movie was coming on and I went out of the

22:58

room and I called my mom and asked if I could

23:00

watch it, and she said, because

23:02

you called, you can watch it. And

23:04

I really appreciate that. And you

23:07

know, she didn't know she had the best son in the world

23:09

at the time. I

23:11

went. The first one I saw the theater, first saw

23:14

the theater was Terminator to Judgment Day

23:17

Um, but I told my

23:19

mom that I was going to see a showing of

23:21

The American President, which

23:24

should have been up big fucking

23:26

tip off. I mean, come on,

23:29

I was absolutely not, and I did

23:32

so I went, I actually did buy the

23:34

ticket

23:37

get for both, really so you can have I

23:40

would have the American President tickets. Don't

23:43

know what, sort of like Colombo bullshit.

23:45

I thought my mom was about to pull on me, but like

23:48

it did have the ticket stuff for American President.

23:50

Did like read a synopsis

23:53

of the movie, being

23:57

such an actor, it

24:00

was a really you know what I

24:02

am? I asked someone who had seen

24:04

the movie, I think it was okay, my friends,

24:07

I think I want to see with my friend Tommy Red and I think

24:09

his mom had actually seen The American President,

24:11

and I asked her, like, what should I say,

24:14

and she said, um, the

24:16

tell her that you really liked Aaron

24:19

Sorkin's dialogue. Yeah,

24:23

I think I probably didn't tell my mom that, which

24:25

like she I bet I bet. She immediately was like,

24:27

so, how did Eddie for Along do in the movie Terminator

24:29

du Judgment Day? But I know that you definitely

24:32

went the song because I know exactly your

24:34

whole thing, and that just happened to be playing at

24:36

the same theater, and your mom was like, come on, give

24:38

me a break, Come on kids. Um.

24:41

Griffin's movie, you know, was of course

24:43

Groundhog Day. Yeah, that

24:45

was that a big one for you too. Oh yeah, yeah,

24:48

that's one of those that still hold. I mean, you can watch that

24:51

now still like brilliant,

24:54

fantastic. It's a shame they don't make comedies

24:56

for adults anymore because see

24:58

another one of this. But uh, I

25:01

think I think Griffin's quote on that one was,

25:03

um, it is not only

25:05

my favorite movie, but it's the best movie.

25:09

Fair. Fair Sure, that's

25:12

fine. I'll let you guys

25:14

tackle that at your next Thanksgiving.

25:17

Yeah, um, all right, so obvious

25:19

type yeah, Jesus man, how

25:22

depressing. Yeah.

25:24

Yeah. And you're still in West

25:27

Virginia too, right, you didn't move. Yeah,

25:29

I love that you stayed there. Man, that's that's great.

25:31

I like it here. I know where all the restaurants are. Yeah,

25:35

and you know, everyone sort of moved away

25:38

a little bit. But aside from

25:40

Travis's brief stint in l A, no

25:42

one saw sort of you

25:44

know, the bright lights of the big city. Yeah,

25:47

travited HeLa for a while. It wasn't

25:49

really his his thing, and I think,

25:53

uh, when the podcast first

25:55

started to catch on, I think we all

25:57

had delusions that it was going to catapult

26:00

us too, you know, super stardom,

26:02

which obviously has not has not materialized

26:04

at least not in the world of cinema

26:07

or a television. But um,

26:09

yeah, I think that it agree it's

26:13

better. I

26:15

think it has made as more relatable, like it's

26:17

certainly you know, to to to not. I

26:20

think I love the like l A

26:22

podcasts seen. I think

26:24

there's a lot of great shows that come out of it. But um,

26:27

it's very sort of um,

26:30

I think it can feel sort of hermetic,

26:32

if that is the right word, you know what I mean. It's like sort

26:35

of uh insular and

26:38

very much seems of a like universe

26:42

there. And I feel like having a

26:44

little bit more diverse

26:46

backgrounds and locations and stuff

26:49

like that has helped helpful for three

26:51

of us, I think. So, I mean this is the same with us

26:53

man, we stayed in Atlanta and

26:55

never even considered going anywhere else. And then

26:58

the industry sort I mean, you guys have been around for a long

27:00

time too, but we're a couple of years ahead of you.

27:02

Guys. But the industry grew up

27:04

so much around us. You

27:07

know, who who needs I mean we did our brief

27:09

failed stint in TV too, but it's

27:11

kind of like, who who needs that stuff? That we got

27:13

the best allies? You have to leave you just shoot that? Or did they shoot

27:16

that in Atlanta? Shot it in Atlanta? Yeah?

27:18

Actual film production resources there I forgot.

27:21

Yeah, it was it was good. Um. But

27:23

and and the thing I missed when it didn't get renewed

27:26

was just it was just so

27:28

much fun. I didn't really hear

27:31

about being on TV. But I love being

27:33

on because I was a I worked on Film Cruise

27:35

for years and years before that is like a p A and

27:37

art department, and like, I just like being on a film

27:39

set. It's fun. Uh

27:42

the uh you know

27:44

what I've This is gonna sound so dumb. But

27:46

the thing that I actually like, besides

27:48

like hanging out with my brothers and stuff, the thing

27:51

that I really liked about, um

27:53

making a TV show was having co workers.

27:56

I had forgotten how much I enjoyed

27:59

that. And like I grew up in newsrooms,

28:02

Um not grew up I

28:04

was. I didn't have like a little bunk

28:06

bed, but like I got my start

28:09

doing like newsroom journalism,

28:11

and uh, I realized,

28:13

but then I left it to do freelance video

28:15

game stuff and uh

28:18

oh seven, I think so since

28:20

then I had not had like people that

28:22

I see every day at the office or whatever. And

28:25

it's really nice having like a big group

28:27

of people that I like totally saw and

28:29

and hung out with. Um

28:31

So that was cool, but I'm back to isolation now,

28:33

as are we all welcome to my health um

28:37

and yeah, also just realizing

28:40

that where

28:42

we are both in podcasting is

28:45

is great and like it's it's

28:47

a it's a great life and it

28:49

is. I don't think I would want to be

28:52

famous famous. I've

28:55

seen enough of it. Uh

28:58

I've I've I've in around people

29:01

who are famous to enough

29:03

to know that, like I'm I'm

29:05

sure it obviously has this huge, huge

29:08

upsides, but for who I am as a person,

29:10

I do not think it would it would agree to it

29:13

with me. It's funny when you're when you're trying to

29:15

break into stuff, it

29:17

seems like and you're just trying

29:19

to get somebody, anybody to like

29:21

notice you. I would I said so many letters

29:24

and applications to different video game websites

29:27

like just please hire me, please give me a a chance. Uh.

29:32

When you start getting noticed, it seems

29:34

to you like more and more and more

29:36

of that you definitely want,

29:39

and then you realize that there's like a

29:41

tipping point where it's like, I actually don't want

29:45

more of this. I have. I have enough

29:47

of this. Uh, this is good. I

29:50

don't want this to be more. And I've seen people who

29:52

have more, and I think

29:54

it would kind of freak me out a little bit. I'm

29:56

with you, man, It's it's nice. Uh

29:59

once a month for want to walk up

30:01

to you in a grocery store and tell you they love

30:03

what you do. And that's great.

30:05

That's that's all I need. Yeah,

30:07

perfect is validation because

30:09

nobody listens to podcasts. I'm basically anonymous

30:11

here. It's Van Das. Oh there's people there

30:13

that are fans of yours. I'm sure no, right, yes,

30:17

Uh, I mean for sure. Like we have a college

30:19

here, it's a college ounce. There's from time to time

30:21

be people who but I'm not like harolded

30:24

as sort of the local hero that I would like to be. That's

30:26

my deal A little bit is I finally

30:28

got called by the University of George and my alma mater

30:31

to do to like come back and speak to students,

30:33

like, uh, six or

30:35

eight months ago. And she was like, well,

30:37

what do you say to this? And I said, where have you

30:39

been? Like, I've been waiting.

30:41

I just want to go back to my school and be kind of a big

30:44

deal. That's it. I've been offering to like my

30:46

high school journalism teacher, like, you know, podcasting

30:48

sort of a big deal if you want me to come right,

30:52

Yeah, shery embarrassing. All right,

30:54

Well, let's dive into with Nail and I the

30:58

seven film written to by Bruce

31:00

Robinson. I know you actually

31:03

put forth Wayne's World is your favorite movie,

31:06

and you were kind enough. I've

31:09

just I've done enough of those kind

31:11

of silly comedies to where there it's not

31:13

the best conversation for

31:16

this show. Uh would

31:18

have I would have done it, and of course we would have had a

31:20

good conversation no matter what. But they're

31:23

not the best for this medium.

31:26

Well, you know it's so funny about this chuck that

31:28

that I did not realize until I mean literally

31:30

moments before we started recording. I

31:33

know about this movie because of Wayne's

31:35

World. Oh from

31:37

from Danny Yes, Wayne's

31:40

World two features

31:42

a character. It's very strange. It's

31:44

like one of it's like a very weird cinema

31:47

thing that like I don't know of a

31:50

lot of examples of this, but

31:53

in Wayne's World two, there which I

31:55

feel like people are probably more aware of, which I watched

31:58

almost as much as I watched Wine World one, I mean

32:00

a jillion times. There's this character

32:03

who's a roading named Dell, and he's very

32:05

um, you

32:07

know, he's obviously like kind of drugged out and

32:10

very weirdly serene, but also

32:13

a little bit scary and intimidating,

32:15

and like he's a great it seems like this great,

32:18

amazing, like one off character.

32:21

Uh. And then I was reading something about Wayne's

32:23

World. It's like, this is a

32:25

character called Danny who is

32:27

a drug dealer in a

32:29

movie called with Dan I And it's

32:32

not like it's similar. It

32:34

is the same character named

32:37

something different in a completely

32:39

unrelated cinematic

32:42

universe. It is so strange. But

32:44

yes, the Danny and

32:46

this was also filmed you know, a good fifteen

32:52

ish ten fifteen years before Wayne's World,

32:54

so like it's just the same guy again

32:57

in the movie, which I'm sure like

32:59

Mike meres Uh saw

33:02

that movie and was like, hey, can

33:04

you just or somebody saw that movie and

33:06

was like, hey, can you just do this again?

33:09

You can just do that character. They should have named him Danny

33:12

Um. And so the other little easter

33:14

egg that I'm sure you probably know about is Alien

33:16

three. Did you

33:18

know about this? I don't think all

33:21

right. So Alien three was Fincher's

33:24

run at Alien and he

33:27

wanted a reunion of this cast

33:30

and he couldn't get Richard E. Grant, but Paul

33:32

McGann and Richard Griffiths, I'm

33:34

sorry, and Ralph Brown who played

33:36

Danny or both in Alien three, and

33:38

Richard E. Grant turned it down and he was There

33:41

was also another homage because this movie is one

33:43

of those that, I

33:45

mean, they call it a cult film, but it's it's I think

33:47

more than that. It's sort of this cultural

33:50

touchstone to so many English

33:52

people for sure, but even Americans

33:54

and other filmmakers and writers. It's,

33:58

uh, it's okay, So things I

34:00

like it without getting getting more into trivia, because

34:02

it's like whatever things I like about

34:04

with Nilan, I'm are my wife

34:06

and I watched it as a result of this and talk

34:10

about like a movie that you can like vibe

34:13

on to you like it. It

34:16

has such a distinct

34:19

uh vibe this

34:21

movie that is, it feels

34:24

weird. It feels out of time sort

34:27

of. It's maybe filming in the mid eighties that set in

34:29

at the very end of the sixties. Um,

34:32

but it doesn't even feel like the late sixties that much.

34:35

No, it's very well, it's very low budget,

34:37

so there's not like a lot of like set

34:39

decoration and stuff like that. Um

34:42

that that that they've done to make it feel

34:45

you know, of a period. Um.

34:47

It it is very

34:50

subdued. There's not a lot going on

34:52

in it, um from

34:54

my life, from a from a story perspective,

34:57

like there's not much plot. It's about two

35:00

unemployed actors that go

35:03

on holiday by mistake. I mean that is

35:05

literally the entire bed um,

35:09

And there's not much story to be told.

35:11

It's just very much about the

35:14

vibe that that of their

35:16

of the world that they're at. It's

35:19

bizarre. Yeah, and what hit

35:21

me um watching this last night

35:23

was And first of all, I saw this in college

35:26

when I worked at the cool video store that had all

35:28

the cool indie movies. Um.

35:31

Then I've seen it twice since before last

35:33

night. Um, each time with one of my good

35:35

friends from England, UM, one of my oldest

35:37

friends from college still one of my best

35:39

friends, Justin we watched it together.

35:42

And then when I lived in l A, I had a very good friend named

35:44

Guy four Guard and it

35:46

was one of his favorite movies and we watched it together.

35:49

Um. But watching it last night, it really

35:51

hit me of what

35:54

what a corny, hokey movie this could

35:56

have been? Like like two unemployed

35:58

actors go on a a

36:02

mistake in vacation to the English countryside

36:04

inzaneanists ensues, which

36:06

is exactly what happens. But there's

36:08

nothing about this that's hokey, your corny. It's

36:11

so real. Well,

36:13

it's very grounded. It's like if you

36:15

look at these guys. So these guys start off

36:18

in absolutely deplorable

36:20

circumstances with Nail, who

36:22

is like very overly dramatic and

36:25

cruel and cowardly and

36:27

crappy. Uh. And then there's I

36:30

who doesn't get named. Who's Paul McGann

36:33

who was the eighth doctor? Uh?

36:36

And um, the

36:38

just them living in deplorable circumstances.

36:40

They're drugging out of their minds they

36:43

are living in like it feels

36:45

claustrophobic. It's so fully realized

36:48

that like you feel like I want you guys to get

36:50

out to this seems miserable. Um.

36:53

But when they go to their to

36:55

this, one of their friends, Uh

36:58

with Nail has an uncle Auntie who

37:01

has a house in the countryside. The

37:03

two of them go there and like from

37:07

the moment they get there, it's

37:09

so ground. It's like the whole

37:11

movie is like this. But like like, for example, when they

37:13

show up at the cottage, they don't have

37:16

um fire, they

37:18

didn't bring anything to start

37:20

a fire. Wish they have. They have

37:22

no food, they don't have

37:25

boots, so they have wrapped

37:27

their feet in plastic to protect from

37:29

the weather. And it's like that

37:32

is not something that a comedy like this would

37:34

normally concern itself with. But those

37:36

small, even the small details

37:38

like that their

37:40

desperation and ineptitude, like each

37:43

thing becomes feels momentous.

37:45

They at one point are

37:47

at a bar and they see

37:49

a poacher come in who has

37:51

um takes and has

37:54

it eels that he

37:56

takes out in his pants that

37:58

he whacks the head of the eel on the bar til it

38:00

dies, and he puts the eel down his pants,

38:03

and then they come over and there's a scene of them

38:05

like trying to talk him out of giving them

38:07

the eel he has down his

38:09

pants, And like every scene

38:12

is like that of like these very

38:14

small but bal circumstances

38:16

being elevated just by their like absolute

38:19

ineptitude at navigating uh

38:22

life. Um.

38:25

I think, like a lot of great comedies,

38:27

it is also undercut

38:31

with a real sadness,

38:34

um that it is

38:37

very much about the end

38:39

of this era.

38:42

It is very much about the end of the sixties,

38:44

and like the reckoning

38:47

that would come, it is very much

38:49

about the hangar the I think they even

38:51

talk about like how

38:53

the seventies are gonna be a massive hangover from

38:56

the sixties, and that is very much what you

38:58

you see buildings, Like as they're driving out

39:00

to the countryside, there's a couple of shots of buildings being like demolished.

39:03

Um, it's all very gray and washed

39:06

out, and like it feels

39:08

that way. It feels like, um, they're

39:11

eulogizing the sixties in a

39:13

sense, like and these guys are

39:17

kind of got caught at the end of the party

39:19

and they're they're a couple

39:21

of the last guys still there, and there's a real

39:24

like sadness about the whole

39:26

thing that I think actually makes it

39:28

work better than it would without it. Oh. Absolutely.

39:31

Um. And you know, seeing this movie in my twenties

39:33

and thirties, which was I think the

39:35

last time I saw this was when I was in l a

39:37

probably fifteen sixteen years

39:39

ago. Uh, and then seeing

39:41

it here at forty nine, I

39:45

had the this wave wash over me

39:47

where I was like, oh my god, with

39:50

Nail is a desperate alcoholic

39:54

Yeah, and that is the sadness

39:56

I think seeing it through older eyes, Um,

39:59

it's it's very funny, and the alcohol

40:02

is played as a as a gag so

40:04

much through the movie, but when you

40:06

see it as a as a grown adult like

40:08

this, you can't help but think, oh my

40:10

god, this guy is going to die

40:12

young of of liver disease,

40:16

you know. Um, yes,

40:18

which is hard to separate from how

40:20

funny them talking

40:23

about the meeting hit, one

40:25

of his best lines is, uh,

40:27

the movie is like infinitely quota if

40:30

you've seen it. My wife and I have

40:32

have been doing it for years. But at one

40:34

point, with Nail is standing, he

40:36

has covered his body in what appears

40:38

to be icy hot to keep

40:41

him warm because they have no heat.

40:44

He's covered his entire body and icy hot.

40:46

It's a fantastic gag because he

40:48

has slathered every inch of himself

40:50

and icy hot. And then he says

40:53

to I, he says, there wasn't much in the

40:55

tube. There's left for you there,

40:59

which obviously he had, like he had bathed himself

41:01

with it and already. But he's standing there and he's shouting

41:03

about how badly he needs a drake, and

41:05

he just screams, I demand to

41:07

have some booze. And

41:09

it's my wife and I've been doing that to each

41:12

other, like when when life

41:14

demands it, like just out

41:16

of nowhere, Sydney, I demand to have

41:18

some booze. Well. And there's the other great

41:20

line in the end about the finest wines. We

41:23

we all have the finest wine known humanity.

41:26

I demand it whom

41:28

here. We want them to know that he there God.

41:30

I mean, we'll definitely go through some of these lines. One

41:33

of them is when early on in the film is

41:35

when they're you know, there are these two outwork

41:38

actors, and one of the things they do is go down to the

41:40

labor exchange when they're not working, and I

41:42

guess that's they're filing for unemployment

41:44

or whatever between jobs, and

41:46

he says, he says that everyone's

41:48

doing it, and with Nail goes, I haven't

41:51

seen gilgad down at the labor exchange, and

41:53

then he takes his brief beat and very desperately

41:55

he says, why doesn't he retire? And

42:01

Richard E. Grant is so great

42:03

in this it's his first movie, and it's just like

42:07

I mean to to to make for this to be

42:09

your first role. It's just like

42:11

Revelatory. You know, it's just performed

42:14

so iconic. Um,

42:17

it's so yeah, it's so iconic. Um.

42:20

The I was

42:22

trying to think of the other you were talking

42:24

about. Um, it's like

42:26

Greenland in here.

42:30

Uh where did you get super he's

42:33

eating? Um?

42:37

So we mentioned Uncle Monty and

42:39

I did want to talk about that all bit because it

42:41

is an interesting I mean, talk about

42:44

things you don't realize um

42:47

as like tastes and

42:49

awareness of things continues

42:51

to evolve. We see

42:54

there's a big plot point that

42:56

and and basically, um,

42:59

the what you come to learn

43:01

is that Uncle Monty is gay, and

43:03

it is very heavily implied that

43:06

with nail has promised that

43:09

if he lets them use his cabin

43:12

that uh. I

43:16

who's apparently as googling, I found his

43:18

name is Peter. I'm going to prefer to miss Peters.

43:22

I think in the script he's Marwood Marwood,

43:24

Yeah, Peter Marwood. Um. And Peter's

43:27

uh is also secretly

43:29

gay and would you know have a romp

43:32

with you? Um? And there

43:34

is a and and basically

43:38

this time period much

43:40

more closeted, much more tabbook um.

43:43

And Uncle Monty comes up. Who's Richard

43:46

Griffiths, who you'll know is uh Mr

43:48

Dursley Harry Potter has adopted

43:51

dad, you know the uncle um

43:54

that and he's fantastic. And there's

43:57

a scene where Uncle Monty Uh,

44:00

well he he has come to the cottage and he

44:02

is helping them to get

44:04

a little bit more settled. He's been very kindly

44:07

but also kind of obviously has designs

44:10

on Peter. Uh. And there's a scene

44:12

where, against Peter's

44:14

wishes, um, Uncle

44:18

Monty like comes upstairs and basically

44:20

like attempts to force himself

44:22

on to Peter. And

44:25

it is like a very it's

44:27

a very troubling scene. It's a very

44:29

disturbing scene. UM's

44:32

play like a horror movie on it is it

44:35

is, but it and

44:37

obviously I'm a straight guy. I I my

44:40

read on this may be completely wrong. This is just as

44:42

I've watched it repeatedly and through

44:44

different lenses that I've gotten older. My

44:47

most recent take on it is like in

44:51

a lesser movie, it would be a

44:53

comedy. In a lesser movie, it would be

44:56

I mean, and a lesser movie from like now,

44:58

I mean, you know, like this time period.

45:01

The idea of a closeted

45:05

uh, gay dude

45:07

attempting to you

45:10

know, have his way

45:12

with a straight guy.

45:15

It's like, yeah,

45:18

yeah, yeah, okay, good, yeah, that's a really good

45:21

comparison. Right, But this movie,

45:23

I think, both through like direction

45:26

and writing, but also

45:28

through Richard Griffith's performance is absolutely,

45:31

like, astonishingly good in

45:33

this movie. He is out of control good. Um.

45:37

He abused it with a sadness

45:40

and a desperation of somebody who

45:43

basically lived a lie his entire

45:45

life and is just now sort

45:48

of, you know, realizing

45:50

that that's not gonna be his life.

45:53

Um, and

45:55

Monty is not given a chance to We're

45:58

not seeing him forgiven. In terms

46:01

of the movie, we don't see him. He

46:03

doesn't like make it up to anybody, but the

46:05

movie doesn't also try to excuse his behavior.

46:08

He just disappears from the movie at

46:10

this point. Um. But it's really

46:12

like, it feels more

46:14

like a commentary and maybe

46:16

this is overly generous again, but it feels

46:19

more like a commentary on what

46:21

society did to gay people at

46:24

that point by making them hide their

46:26

existence. I think it totally was.

46:28

Um. I mean, this was said in nineteen nine

46:31

and the character of Monte is in his sixties.

46:33

Easy, So this is a gay man

46:36

in England who grew up from

46:38

the turn of the century where it was literally

46:40

illegal and you could be chemically castrated.

46:44

Uh. In that letter that he leaves the

46:46

next day when he's out of there

46:48

is just so sad and tragic. You know.

46:50

Yeah, it's very it's very sad.

46:53

Um. Uh, fun

46:55

trivia for you. Richard Griffith said, more credit to

46:58

his performance. He was forty years old when

47:00

this movie was cut up. Really yeah,

47:03

yeah, here's yeah.

47:05

While meanwhile, yeah, I mean, and you're

47:08

absolutely that's the read though he does he

47:10

has not meant to read. It's a forty year old dude. I

47:12

don't think so. And here's another bit

47:14

of trivia. I don't know if you knew, but um. The

47:18

writer and director Bruce Robinson based

47:20

that character on Zepharelli

47:24

because he, as a young, very handsome

47:27

actor, was in Zepharelli's Romeo

47:29

and Juliet and apparently was

47:33

very much hit on and come onto by

47:35

Zepharelli. Uh, he thought inappropriately

47:39

as a much older man, and even

47:41

took some of the lines directly from Zepharelli,

47:43

like are you a spongerous stone? Apparently

47:46

was something Zepharelli actually said to him. Wow.

47:50

Um, yeah, it's it's

47:52

it's a it's tough.

47:54

I mean, I don't know how a

47:56

smarter person or a gay person

47:59

would would feel about watching

48:01

that scene. That is just sort of my read on

48:03

it. Um yeah, I'm with it. It's a very

48:05

it's it's but but I mean, I think

48:07

it definitely feels progressive in terms of the

48:10

mid to late eighties. You

48:13

know, he is not sort of like othered

48:15

or made to be a monster because of his sexual

48:18

orientation. It is because you know,

48:20

of the the attempted

48:23

assault of of Peter.

48:25

But um, yeah, and that's sort of a through line through

48:27

the movie. You know, there's a couple of times where

48:30

there's the one time in the bar earlier on in the

48:32

pub when the guy calls

48:34

him a ponce, U calls Marwood

48:36

a ponce and he's just terrified of

48:39

getting beat up. And I think I think he and

48:41

with Nail are it seems

48:43

like they're constantly being mistaken for a

48:45

gay couple. Yeah, And

48:48

actually, you know, seeing it again and

48:51

having not seen it in a while, I couldn't really remember.

48:54

I kind of thought they were a gay couple.

48:56

And then it's sort of jogged my memory as

48:58

the movie went along that they weren't. But

49:01

they do sort of read that way, I think to the locals

49:04

in Camden Town. It's a

49:06

very interesting relationship the two of

49:08

them have, and it's really the cornerstone of the whole

49:10

movie because they're basically a unit. It's

49:12

a love story, you know, it really is,

49:15

and it's and it's interesting because Peter

49:18

obviously very much cares about

49:21

with nail Um and

49:25

cares about his constantly like frets

49:27

about his well being, his safety, attempts

49:30

to like look out for him in a lot of different

49:32

ways, and I

49:34

think there is an implication

49:36

that um, Peter has a

49:39

job offer, um that

49:41

he has is maybe feeling guilty

49:43

about because with Nail does

49:45

not also have work. Um. And

49:49

it's interesting because Peter very much cares about

49:51

with Nail. With Nail does not seem to have the

49:53

capacity to care about

49:56

Peter in the same way or anyone

49:58

or even yeah, anyone other

50:01

than himself. Very self

50:03

obsessed. And I

50:05

think what you do see,

50:08

what he lets show through is sort of a a

50:11

dependence on Peter um

50:14

that that he needs and it's very much

50:16

lost without um. How

50:18

deep do you get, like plot wise on this show in

50:21

terms of like trying to avoid

50:23

talking about like the ending of movies

50:25

and no, no, it's all it's all fair game.

50:28

Um. It's interesting in the in the

50:30

very we're talking about the elegy for the eulogy

50:33

for the sixties, um, the very

50:36

last scenes of the movie, Peter gets his job

50:39

offer and cuts his hair to

50:42

which is a very it doesn't seem like a big

50:44

thing, but it's a very big deal. Yeah,

50:47

very symbolic. He's leaving with Nail behind,

50:50

who I think is sort of the if

50:52

you if you want to get overthink it is like very

50:54

symbolic of the self indulgence of the sixties.

50:57

Then, uh, Peter is sort of like

50:59

moving on from that and and letting himself

51:01

be sort of absorbed into the working

51:05

world or the more traditional world. While

51:08

yeah, that and and with Nail is kind of left by

51:11

himself. And it was very sad, very

51:16

sad final scene where he's sort of like mourning the loss

51:18

of Peter. Um. But

51:21

like that sadness doesn't come out of nowhere.

51:23

It's like present from the beginning of the

51:26

beginning of this Okay, interesting trivia.

51:29

The beginning of this movie was funded

51:33

by George Harrison, so

51:36

they have killer music in

51:38

this movie. The soundtrack of this movie is excellent

51:41

of and the very opening scene is

51:44

this instrumental version

51:46

of Whiter Shade of Pale. It is in

51:48

front of a live audience. It's like such

51:51

a strange vibe, but so

51:53

clearly like says, this is what the movie

51:56

is, like, this is gonna be this kind of movie. Um

52:00

uh so that but that sadness is more

52:02

present than the comedy like for like

52:04

it is is both the beginning and ending

52:07

of this is it is a sad story.

52:10

Um, but

52:13

I don't does it feel you did it? Does it

52:15

make you sad to watch it now, like

52:18

especially as you were talking about, you know, watching

52:20

as an older dude. No, Um,

52:23

it doesn't make me sad, uh,

52:26

because it's so goddamn funny. It's

52:29

really funny. I mean really really really

52:31

funny. The script is so good.

52:34

Um. I mean

52:36

there's a melancholy I think that

52:39

watching it over you. Uh, and

52:41

you do wonder especially now, like I said, watching

52:43

as an as an older guy, Uh,

52:46

like what happens after Marwood

52:49

leaves, like what happens to with Nail,

52:52

I don't think anything good, which

52:55

is that it was the character was based

52:57

on and this is somewhat hearsay, but

52:59

there is based on diet throat cancer

53:01

in the mid nineties, and there

53:03

was a it is perhaps

53:08

due to his actually drinking lighter

53:10

fluid like with now does that's

53:15

rough? Rough? Chuckles? That was tough. Um.

53:19

Yeah, But I mean there's so so many funny moments.

53:21

So like the Danny stuff, there's

53:24

you get too great Danny sequences. That

53:26

first one where he's first introduced

53:29

and just that guy's voice. Man, like that guy

53:31

can't say a line without me laughing. It's

53:34

so good. Yeah, he's fantastic. And

53:36

then the last one where they come

53:38

back and he's basically been squatting with presuming

53:41

Ed, one

53:43

of the great character names of all time. Presuming

53:46

Ed, who Danny is, is getting out of the drug

53:48

business to start a doll company with

53:50

presuming Ed because presuming

53:52

Ed's niece has a doll that peas

53:55

and Danny and presuming Ed are going to make a doll

53:57

that and

54:00

that's like there, that's his business. That's

54:03

his business. Uh plan.

54:06

Yeah, And yet it doesn't come across as

54:08

some way. I mean, if this was some Hollywood

54:11

version, it would just that would be

54:13

such a dumb joke. But it works

54:15

in this movie. Um,

54:19

the the oh my god.

54:24

Uh this Danny line from the very

54:26

end of the movie, this last scene really

54:29

like he this character is very out

54:31

there, but he also some because

54:33

he is sort of unhinged a little

54:36

bit. He's able to talk about thematic elements

54:38

of this movie with having to

54:40

ground. This is a line that I mean here, Um,

54:43

if you're hanging onto a rising balloon, you're

54:46

presented with a difficult decision let

54:48

go before it's too late, or hang

54:50

on and keep getting higher, posing the question

54:53

how long can you keep a grip on the rope? They're

54:55

selling hippie wigs and Woolworth's Man. The

54:58

greatest decade in history of man, mine

55:00

is over. And as presuming ed

55:02

here has so consistently pointed out, we

55:05

have failed to paint a black It's

55:07

like, oh, dude, that is so great. They're

55:09

selling hippie wigs and wool warp. It's like

55:13

that's a whole movie. Like like that's literally

55:15

the whole movie. Like that's the whole movie. And in

55:17

a single line, Uh, it's

55:19

an It's wildly well written. There's

55:22

not a line out of place in this entire movie.

55:24

Yeah. And and they he has

55:27

that that carrot joint and

55:29

they they and earlier

55:32

they challenge each other to a drug off. Basically

55:34

that's such a good scene when he brings out that pill and

55:37

Richard brands like, give it to me, I'll run a mile.

55:41

He's like, I can do ten times the drugs that you can.

55:46

But it works. It never comes across as like some

55:49

silly, sort of juvenile movie.

55:53

I think because of that tragic undercurrent

55:55

and like you were talking about the the

55:57

passage of time and that the sixties dawning

56:00

into the seventies, there's there's just so much more

56:02

substance, so much more meat on the bone in this movie.

56:05

Yeah, it's it's We could honestly

56:08

like repeat, like it

56:10

would be a more entertaining podcast if we just read

56:12

the script up with talent I because that's literally the entire

56:14

film is like that. I feel so jealous of

56:16

people that have not watched this movie because

56:19

it is I mean, you get to see it for the first time.

56:21

It's so good and you really do a

56:23

lot of the transfer and sound

56:26

stuff is like not so great.

56:28

I watched it on a Oh my god, it drove me

56:30

crazy. Have my big TV there. Put

56:33

a put in the Criterion Collection

56:36

DVD within on I, which is one of the

56:39

very few places you can like track it down. It's

56:41

in four three letter

56:44

boxed for three right

56:46

four three here and then letter box top

56:48

and box is wild

56:51

there and that is like, that's the Criterion

56:54

he told me. It was in the Criterion Service,

56:56

right, you can get you can watch it on the Criterion

56:59

Channel and if you're a listener, you can sign

57:02

up and get two weeks of that for free. If I mean,

57:04

I would recommend just paying for the Criterion Channel

57:06

because it's great, but you can get two

57:08

weeks free, watch a bunch of movies and cancel

57:10

if you want, Yeah,

57:13

if you want um

57:15

still yeah, still free Country.

57:19

There's something else too about a movie with two

57:21

guys on the take, Like every

57:24

time, every time they

57:26

can, they're trying to scam booze, whether

57:29

it's using the money for the Wellies

57:31

when they're supposed to go buy boots. And

57:33

he goes in and he has that great scene

57:35

in the bar where he goes, we'll have to work

57:37

quickly a couple of quadruple whiskeys in another

57:40

point, please, Or

57:43

every time Monty leaves the room or turns

57:45

his head, Richard E. Grant or with nail grabs

57:48

that bottle of sherry sherry and

57:50

just chugs as much as he can before he comes back

57:52

into the room. It's just so funny.

57:55

It's very yeah, it's very yeah. The obsession

57:57

with he has a he

58:00

has a m Danny

58:04

has invented a device

58:07

that you's a child's

58:09

you're the child

58:11

urine and then drunk drive, you

58:15

demand you're ine tested when you're

58:17

arrested and you fill it with the child yes,

58:21

which of course there's a fantastic payoff for later

58:24

the movie. But oh yeah, absolutely

58:27

it's really really really good. Um

58:30

again, talking about like adult comedies

58:33

sad, there's not They

58:35

don't let h let people make

58:37

these anymore. Another one of my favorite

58:40

parts is, you know when they are at the

58:42

cottage and they just they have no food

58:45

and they're trying to get food. He goes to the neighbor

58:47

of this old lady who's basically just

58:49

like, fuck off, get out of here, asking for eggs,

58:52

and they eventually get some food through

58:55

her son who was the farmer. With

58:57

the farmer the polythene wrapped around his

58:59

leg and he has

59:01

whats happened to his leg and he has called a Randy

59:04

bullop the gave me one in the knee. Um

59:09

it. Oh man, this is a very good

59:11

movie. If you haven't seen

59:13

it, make sure you track it down. I recommend

59:16

subtitles too. This is the first. Yeah,

59:19

I watched it with subtitles last night for the first time,

59:21

and there's just so much more that

59:24

you get. And then there's still a lot

59:26

that as an American, flies right over

59:28

my head because so much as colloquial um.

59:31

And that was apparently when when Robinson

59:33

was getting the movie made, they

59:35

really wanted him to change the script to make it more

59:38

broad I think not comedy broad,

59:40

but just they're like, you have all these sayings

59:43

in here that people are not going to get because it's

59:45

sixties Camden Town, London specific.

59:47

And he was like, no, this is the movie like uh,

59:50

and he couldn't get it made. Uh, And

59:53

so they got money to do it himself

59:56

from George Harrison. From George Harrison.

59:58

Yeah, weird, Like do you know what it actually is?

1:00:00

Funny? It reminds me of is The Princess Bride

1:00:03

in that regard, because that's

1:00:05

another movie exact same

1:00:07

you know, time period. Is this where it's

1:00:09

like did not have a bit, did not make a splash

1:00:13

in theaters, but was

1:00:15

really was released in the exact

1:00:18

right time period where VHS

1:00:22

was starting to become so commonplace that everybody

1:00:24

could like buy movies on

1:00:26

VHS right and rewatch them, and we watched them.

1:00:28

And there's this this period of like right

1:00:30

around this like mid late eighties period where

1:00:33

like movies like this start to be

1:00:35

able to develop a cult following. You release

1:00:37

this movie five years earlier maybe and

1:00:40

no one's ever maybe no one's ever heard of it because

1:00:42

like it doesn't have the you

1:00:45

know, if it flops the one time in theaters

1:00:47

like that, that might be it for

1:00:50

for the movie. You know, you don't have the vhs

1:00:52

released there or rental options.

1:00:55

Yeah, for sure. I never

1:00:57

really thought about that, but I think you're totally right. The

1:01:00

other thing is stood out at me too last night was the narration

1:01:02

in this movie. Narration could be so tricky, um,

1:01:05

but it works so well in this movie because it's not. I

1:01:07

think narration at its worst is so

1:01:10

overly sentimental and instructive. But

1:01:13

this is this is his more of his sort

1:01:15

of inner monologue, and like

1:01:17

it informs the character, but it doesn't telegraph

1:01:20

like what's going to happen next, which is the worst kind

1:01:22

of narration. Yeah, it's

1:01:25

much more about um uh

1:01:29

thematic some

1:01:31

yeah, laying out the thematic bounds of the movie

1:01:33

much more than it is about like his

1:01:35

own motivations or um

1:01:40

and anything like that. It's much more about talking

1:01:43

the you know, talking around the

1:01:45

edges of the movie than something that sort of dictates

1:01:47

this is how this character is feeling. Yeah, yeah,

1:01:49

absolutely, before

1:01:58

we get to the very end, because we should dissect

1:02:00

that scene a little bit. The two

1:02:02

more big standout laughs for me, where the

1:02:05

when he sets that when he sets

1:02:07

that fucking chicken on the log in

1:02:09

the smoker, Yes, just

1:02:12

sits him up right, the chicken

1:02:14

that they killed somehow. Uh.

1:02:17

Peter says, uh that

1:02:20

when they're looking at the chicken, it's

1:02:22

got dreadful beady eyes. They stare at you.

1:02:24

Best kill it quick before it tries to make friends with

1:02:26

us. It's

1:02:30

so good and he's so he's such

1:02:32

a good actor too. I think he it's easy to

1:02:34

think about Richard E. Grant's performance,

1:02:37

Um yeah, as such a bravura performance,

1:02:39

But Paul McGann is so great in this. His

1:02:43

desperation and fragility

1:02:46

really sells it. Like, yeah, he's so desperate.

1:02:49

There's a scene that you were talking about, the

1:02:51

guy insulting him for being a puce

1:02:54

in the bathroom. He's terrified. He's

1:02:56

terrified. He's like peeing in the urnal

1:02:59

with this he by the guy doesn't

1:03:01

even register facially when the guys

1:03:03

like punts doesn't

1:03:05

register, keeps a smile on his face, goes into

1:03:07

the bathroom, absolutely has a breakdown,

1:03:10

kind of figure out what he did wrong

1:03:12

to this guy, and it walks back out of the bathroom

1:03:14

with the exact sing especially just

1:03:17

like face it on and just informs

1:03:19

with Nail that they need to leave the bar right then, yea,

1:03:22

And of course with Nail with all his you know which

1:03:25

fucking guy said that to me? And

1:03:28

you know, he turns around like he's going to fight the guy, of course,

1:03:30

and then they bail because he's not gonna fight anybody.

1:03:33

No, yeah, he said. He suggests that they take it outside,

1:03:35

handle it like gentlemen. He

1:03:38

Oh. There's actually a beautiful line

1:03:40

reading there where Richard Grant sees

1:03:42

the size of the guy and says, um,

1:03:44

what my friend acquaintance here

1:03:47

was trying to get like almost says

1:03:50

friend stops changes to

1:03:52

acquaintance with my acquaintance

1:03:54

here. He's constantly selling him down the river,

1:03:57

like all through the whole movie. It's it's hysterical

1:04:00

out and I think that that's like, it's very

1:04:02

uh seeing the end

1:04:05

of that relationship, I think says a

1:04:07

lot about both of them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1:04:10

Um. The other big standout scene for me comedy

1:04:12

wise is the tea room scene when

1:04:15

they go to buy the Wellies. They get loaded

1:04:17

at the pub and then go to get some

1:04:19

cake and tea, and that stuffy

1:04:21

tea room is such a good scene. It looks so

1:04:24

good. Also, it makes me hungry

1:04:26

every time I see it, because I know that feeling of like I

1:04:29

got too drunk in the middle of the day and I

1:04:31

need to do something right now or

1:04:33

I'm headed for disaster. Well,

1:04:35

and just how proper the Brits are with everything. Uh,

1:04:38

it's so great, what a great with

1:04:41

Nail announces that they are millionaires,

1:04:44

are going to make a movie. I want

1:04:46

to fill a scene there. Yeah,

1:04:48

Peter says, we're not drunks, were multimillionaires.

1:04:50

And then that with the else says he wants to film

1:04:53

a scene there, and that they might film a

1:04:55

scene there and the locations.

1:04:59

Yeah all right, so that last that

1:05:01

last sequence, you know, like you mentioned earlier, Uh,

1:05:04

Marwood gets a job. Like

1:05:06

there's only one way this movie can end, and

1:05:09

that is this way, Like they have to part

1:05:12

um. Yeah, they have to break up in a certain

1:05:14

sense, and Marwood has to be the one that grows

1:05:18

up and gets the work and

1:05:20

with Nail has to be the one that is left behind.

1:05:23

It's the only way this movie can go. And he

1:05:26

gets that haircut and the

1:05:29

the physical transformation is just so

1:05:31

striking against with Nail's

1:05:33

sameness in that same ill

1:05:36

fitting suit with his sort of

1:05:38

greasy hair and still

1:05:40

trying to have that last drink and get

1:05:43

drunk with him one last time, and

1:05:45

he won't. He won't do it. You know. That's so like

1:05:48

symbolic of this parting of ways

1:05:51

and so sad, which they do without hanging

1:05:53

a hat on it. Yeah, which is so smart,

1:05:56

Like they don't they don't

1:05:58

like make a big You've always loved

1:06:01

Boost. We drink so much Boost together.

1:06:03

How could you you've really changed? Like are

1:06:06

you just reading the script? I'm so jealous. Yeah,

1:06:09

that uh uh

1:06:12

the last thing Okay, so the last shot of the movie. You

1:06:15

want to talk about like having faith

1:06:17

in yourself as like one a

1:06:20

screenwriter to a director three

1:06:22

an actor. The last bit

1:06:24

of the movie with nail by himself

1:06:27

and reciting the in the rain,

1:06:29

reciting the what a piece of work is man? Speech

1:06:32

from from Hamlet. It's

1:06:34

like so fucking good. It's

1:06:37

so good. But also like, so you're gonna

1:06:39

in the movie with Hamlet, like you're gonna

1:06:42

take a bit from Hamlet, Richard I Grant

1:06:44

is gonna fucking I mean

1:06:46

absolutely sell it. I don't know the dude ever played

1:06:48

Hamlet, but he should have. He's absolutely brilliant,

1:06:51

these twenty seconds of Hamlet that he

1:06:53

does at the end of the movie. And then that's it.

1:06:56

It's just hit with nail by himself. Um.

1:07:00

It's it's really really the courage

1:07:02

of that, like the the the bravado

1:07:05

of that, Like, well, we're just gonna crip from Hamlet real quick

1:07:07

at this part, and you know it's it deserves

1:07:10

to be in our movie and we should be in

1:07:12

the same brother the Samlet. Um, it's it's

1:07:14

genius and his his performances is perfect,

1:07:17

like everybody's performances, uh

1:07:19

in the movie, because there's not really a lot of characters,

1:07:21

but every I think every one of them is does

1:07:24

a fantastic job. Yeah. And there's

1:07:27

also that one line that kind of foreshadows

1:07:29

earlier. I will never

1:07:32

play the Dane. That's

1:07:34

true. Yeah, Uncle Monty. What

1:07:37

is it? Such a sad moment in a young

1:07:39

man's life and he likes someone warn't realizes

1:07:42

I will never play the Dane. Yeah. And I mean

1:07:44

this movie, I can't. I just can't say

1:07:47

enough about it. It's uh. And and actually

1:07:49

and that maybe that's him really, Oh man,

1:07:52

So I had never connected

1:07:54

those two. But like that's

1:07:57

the moment for with now realizing

1:07:59

that will never play the Dane, so he plays

1:08:01

him in the rain. Yeah, by the

1:08:04

zoo with those wolves behind

1:08:06

them behind the fence. It's

1:08:08

just such a powerhouse I've seen and I

1:08:11

looked up the what a piece of work is Man, just

1:08:13

to get sort of Wikipedia stake,

1:08:17

and it says this, and it's just theatrical

1:08:21

Scholaria dr

1:08:23

Wicki and dr Wicky said,

1:08:25

uh. In this passage, Hamlet is expressing

1:08:28

his melancholy to his old

1:08:30

friends. In this case, I guess the wolves over

1:08:32

the difference between the best that men aspire

1:08:34

to be and how they actually behave and

1:08:37

the great and the great divide that depresses

1:08:39

him. And that's it, man,

1:08:41

And that's the movie. Yeah, that's the movie. God,

1:08:44

what a good flick. So great. I

1:08:46

feel like still not, as you know, you said,

1:08:48

it's not quite a cult hit. I think that's fair.

1:08:51

I think it has a bigger impact on

1:08:54

people. I still don't feel it's like I

1:08:56

feel like it could be a lot more well known. I

1:08:58

think Harold is like one of the greats.

1:09:00

Like it is, it deserves to be in

1:09:03

the same breath as pretty much every other comedy

1:09:05

classic, but I feel like did never made

1:09:07

like the American impact. Um

1:09:10

that that you know a lot of other

1:09:12

movies didn't. Yeah, it's on some lists in

1:09:15

England, is like a top twenty all

1:09:18

time film from England and stuff

1:09:20

like that. So I mean it's definitely has

1:09:22

its do as a cult hit in certain

1:09:24

circles. Though it ain't easy to

1:09:27

watch either. I mean, like, thank goodness

1:09:29

for Criterion. Like I've been making do with

1:09:31

with like bad vhs

1:09:35

and DVD transfers to this movie since

1:09:37

we started watching it, like and there is If

1:09:39

you went to try to buy this

1:09:41

right now, I think you're gonna pay like d

1:09:44

dollars DVD of it.

1:09:46

It's like impossible to to find.

1:09:49

Yeah, well check it out on Criterion.

1:09:52

Um, I got a question for you too,

1:09:54

Do you say chin chin when you toast?

1:09:58

Okay, this is interesting. Wow,

1:10:00

that's so funny that you say that. My

1:10:02

wife and I wanted to start saying it. We

1:10:05

couldn't figure out if it was racist or not. We

1:10:08

have spent many because there's so many

1:10:10

things to sneak up wine every If you have

1:10:12

not wondered if something as racist, it probably

1:10:14

is. And that we're like

1:10:17

chinching, Is that like a racist thing? We googled

1:10:19

and googled and googled, could not find it, but

1:10:22

couldn't find enough that said it's definitely

1:10:24

not. It's one of those weird things like

1:10:26

the origin I guess is not super super

1:10:29

clear. We have not found definitive evidence

1:10:31

that it is, but it was still

1:10:33

nerve were nervous enough people, uh

1:10:36

that we just have sticked to prost

1:10:39

now, I oh, boy, prost is

1:10:41

super racist, dude, dang kidding.

1:10:43

Um, I didn't know if this was the origin

1:10:46

or not, or if that was a common you

1:10:49

think it's a common I've heard other

1:10:51

British people saying, I don't know if there it's

1:10:53

from from this movie, but I

1:10:56

never knew. I've had certainly had plenty of friends

1:10:58

that said it over the years. Yeah,

1:11:00

And I always think it's a nice little shorthand for

1:11:03

being It's sort of like being in a little club like if

1:11:06

you love this movie, you know, yeah, it

1:11:08

says a lot about who you was. Definitely would put it on the map

1:11:10

if it was not the originator

1:11:13

of it. It's definitely what made it more

1:11:16

common. Totally all right, dude, you got

1:11:18

anything else on with nail. If not, we'll finish

1:11:20

with a quick five questions. Wrap

1:11:23

it up, all right, dude, what

1:11:25

was the first movie you saw in a theater?

1:11:33

Are you thinking? I mean, I am

1:11:36

trying to I you would think I would

1:11:38

know that offhand. Um, but it I'm

1:11:41

pretty sure. Et okay,

1:11:44

that's that is the great first movie.

1:11:46

Let me see when did that come out? Let me double check my

1:11:49

memory there? That was two.

1:11:51

As long as movies stayed in theaters, then that is possible.

1:11:54

All right, Yes, I'm gonna go to et okay.

1:11:57

Uh, what is

1:12:00

your first R rated movie? Uh?

1:12:03

Well, that's funny that we've covered. My first

1:12:05

home all rated movie was like Who We Can't Part two?

1:12:08

Possibly I didn't know if you fully watched it. Well,

1:12:11

I didn't get through it, so I guess no. We will

1:12:13

go. We will give it to t tail. Okay, we will give the

1:12:15

honor of fully completing. Yeah, because you don't watch

1:12:18

ten minutes of a movie from between your fingers

1:12:20

and say yeah, I saw it. I

1:12:22

saw that. Some people do. Uh.

1:12:25

Let me see number three. I'm trying to find my list because

1:12:27

I don't do these as much anymore. Um, all

1:12:30

right, here it is number three and

1:12:33

people listeners are like dumbing, you

1:12:35

know, the your questions, will

1:12:37

you walk out of a bad movie or do you stick it

1:12:39

out? I have

1:12:42

walked out of one

1:12:45

movie, Beverly

1:12:48

Hills Ninja. I'll talk you about to say

1:12:50

cop no Beverly

1:12:53

Hills Ninja. I walked out of. Yeah,

1:12:56

yeah, yeah,

1:12:58

Beverly Hills Ninja walked out of. But

1:13:01

that is the only that is the by

1:13:03

and large, No, uh

1:13:06

nowadays, like it is so absolutely

1:13:08

rare. Well I mean not nowadays in the coronavirus

1:13:11

times, but since I've had kids, it's so rare that

1:13:13

I'll like be able to get to go to a movie theater

1:13:16

that I would probably just no matter what, like show

1:13:18

static, I don't care now

1:13:20

I'm with you. Well and uh, And I talked

1:13:22

about this a lot with other parents. Is like you don't you don't

1:13:24

take flyers on bad movies anymore. You go when you

1:13:26

know it's a great movie. I saw

1:13:29

the last time I went to the movie theater, I saw

1:13:33

someone looking at posters and

1:13:35

then talking with someone about what to go see.

1:13:38

And I almost had like I melt like are you you

1:13:40

just showed up? You're like what starting? So people,

1:13:44

that's a thing. I've heard. What a luxury

1:13:46

that must be. You're

1:13:48

either independently wealthy?

1:13:51

Are you very sad? I've planned

1:13:53

it. It's like weeks of planning, and I've

1:13:55

built my schedule around going to see this fun

1:13:58

um. Number four are I used

1:14:01

to ask a guilty pleasure, but now I'm more

1:14:03

akin to ask um

1:14:06

if you could be how

1:14:08

about this? If you and your brothers could be in

1:14:11

any classic comedy, what

1:14:14

movie would that be? You don't

1:14:16

have to be the leads, but you could place

1:14:18

yourself in any classic comedy. You,

1:14:21

Travi, and Griffin. I

1:14:25

think I would love if we were in

1:14:28

a Marx Brothers movie. But the Marx

1:14:30

Brothers were still in it, and it was just kind

1:14:32

of us. We were the three three people

1:14:34

were just like this is wild, Like we're

1:14:37

just staying out the side. Lease, guys are nuts.

1:14:39

Has everybody seen this? This is hilarious. Check

1:14:42

these guys out. There are three less funny

1:14:44

brothers that are just started watching from

1:14:47

the sidelines, encouraging them, putting

1:14:50

them up to different things. I love it. Uh. And then

1:14:52

finally number five movie going one oh one? What

1:14:54

is your when when you could go to movies? What

1:14:56

was your routine. Where do you like to sit?

1:14:58

What do you like to eat? Okay,

1:15:01

so I buy I will

1:15:03

buy too many snacks because

1:15:07

but the movie is like, I'll get the big drink. I'll get

1:15:09

some candy too, and some popcorn.

1:15:11

Gonna do the whole thing. I go

1:15:14

with my kid a lot now to go see like kids

1:15:16

type movies. So you get like a booster seat. Uh

1:15:19

if the theater is available, I'd like to

1:15:21

be. I'le like sort of center,

1:15:24

like if you enter on the left house left,

1:15:27

I'll be like center of

1:15:29

the house, but like

1:15:32

far left on the aisle. Because

1:15:35

I like to use the bathroom at

1:15:37

least once in every movie I've ever

1:15:40

been. I can't hold it that long, especially with this

1:15:42

huge soda IM pounding now, So

1:15:44

I'll use the run p app to

1:15:46

time it out. Oh yeah,

1:15:48

with every movie. Yeah, obsessively. I've

1:15:51

never used that. I've heard about it. I should check that out. It's

1:15:53

perfect. It's you know what you can do now. They updated

1:15:56

it to where you can press

1:15:58

a button when the movie starts,

1:16:02

and then you'll get a little buzz in your pocket when

1:16:04

it's like, hey, it's a good time, a good peek. You

1:16:07

don't even have to take your fun out of your pockets. She's like, oh wow,

1:16:10

I'm gonna go pee right now, and then while you're peeing,

1:16:12

you read the synopsis of the bit that you're missing,

1:16:15

and then you go back here and people. Every

1:16:17

time I've been married to my wife

1:16:19

for fourteen years a

1:16:21

week ago. Every time I'll come back, she'll

1:16:23

try to tell me when I miss I say, you do not need to come

1:16:26

of the run. PS

1:16:29

informed me. I am fully caught up. Awesome. I gotta

1:16:31

check that out, all right, Thanks buddy,

1:16:33

This is great, no problem, Chuck.

1:16:36

Thanks for having me on your program. Of course, it's good

1:16:38

to see you and glad everyone's doing well and

1:16:40

hanging in there, and um let's

1:16:43

let's stay in better touch about it. That would

1:16:45

be great, Chuck. I don't have any friends anymore because

1:16:48

because I just sit in my house all the time. What are

1:16:50

your social social channels? Oh

1:16:53

at Justin McElroy on Twitter. That's

1:16:56

it our McElroy dot family

1:16:58

as our websites. You can go there and check out the watch shows.

1:17:00

All right, fantastic, Thank you Justine McElroy.

1:17:03

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