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what I think are the best movie castings

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of all time, because they just came out with the official

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cast for the new Fantastic Four movie

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and everybody's freaking out over it. There's

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a long, weird history with Fantastic

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Four, so we'll dive into all that. In

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You finally have it, the official

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casting for the new Fantastic Four

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movie, which is coming out on July twenty

1:19

fifth, twenty twenty five. We're gonna

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have to wait a minute for this one. Everybody

1:24

has been speculating, everybody's been freaking

1:26

out about Fantastic Four. And

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maybe I'm the only person who doesn't

1:31

fully get the Fantastic Four movies

1:34

because I don't really see anything fantastic

1:36

about them. And I think it's whenever Pedro

1:38

Pascal was just rumored to

1:41

be mister Fantastic that I was like, what is

1:43

the big deal? What am I missing about these movies? And

1:45

it was at that time that I went back

1:47

and rewatched every single Fantastic

1:50

Four movie and I still don't get

1:52

it. And this is coming from somebody who loves Fantastic

1:54

Four in the comic books, which is

1:57

why there's been so much

1:59

of a demand to make this movie. And when you look

2:01

at Marvel movies, historically, the

2:04

movies that got made first were the ones

2:06

that had the most popular comic

2:08

books. You go way back into

2:10

the nineties, and I'm talking even outside

2:13

of the TV shows that were made, but

2:15

they wanted to make the big properties have their

2:17

movies first. That's what we got Fantastic four.

2:19

There was a movie in the nineties that never came out

2:22

because it was so awful. But that's

2:24

why we got The Hulk first, the X

2:26

Men, and of course Spider Man, because

2:28

those were the best selling comic

2:30

books, the ones everybody loves, so naturally

2:33

you want to make movies about your most popular

2:36

heroes first. And that is also

2:38

what led to the history of the

2:40

MCU, because Marvel

2:43

was selling off all of their big

2:45

properties left and right, because they were the

2:47

Marvel that they are now. They weren't acquired

2:49

by Disney. They were struggling

2:51

to stay alive because the movies historically

2:54

didn't perform well at the box office.

2:56

So Marvel had to go and sell the

2:58

movie, right, it's to different studio. They sold

3:00

movies off to Fox, they sold them off to

3:02

Sony, and the ones they kept for themselves

3:05

were the less popular superheroes.

3:07

So if you look at the MCU, which started

3:10

in two thousand and eight with iron Man, iron

3:12

Man was by no means one of their most popular

3:14

characters, but it was really all they had the rights

3:17

left to so then they started building their

3:19

empire, and that's what you had. Movies

3:21

made with less popular characters.

3:23

The Avengers themselves all

3:25

individually weren't the most popular.

3:28

They didn't quite compare it to all the big heroes.

3:31

But at the bottom base layer

3:33

of that, it was always Fantastic for

3:36

they were the first superhero family.

3:39

And the thing that really set them apart,

3:41

and much like a lot of the Marvel superheroes,

3:43

was that they had flaws. They got put into

3:46

situations that everybody on the

3:48

DC side didn't have to deal with. Fantastic

3:50

Four had to deal with money issues. Their

3:52

headquarters would be taken away because

3:54

they couldn't afford rent, and they went through

3:56

all these real life things and they

3:59

placed them in New York City, so it felt

4:01

very real and they had a lot of comedic

4:03

elements to them. That is why I think

4:06

young readers grasped onto the Fantastic

4:08

Four so much. And their superpowers

4:11

were very elaborate. You have read Richard's

4:13

aka Mister Fantastic who

4:16

his body is essentially elastic

4:18

and he can stretch out and do all these weird things.

4:21

You have Sue Storm aka the Invisible

4:23

Woman. You have Ben Grimm aka

4:25

the Thing, and then you have Johnny

4:28

Storm aka the Human Torch, and

4:31

the villain is Victor von Doom aka

4:34

Doctor Doom. And the thing about all these

4:36

characters is they are so cartoony.

4:40

They're great in the comic books, but it's

4:42

such a hard movie to get right because

4:44

of that. I love mister Fantastic,

4:46

but when you put him onto the big screen,

4:49

it looks incredibly cheesy. And

4:51

the Thing is also very hard

4:54

to get right with the aesthetic and

4:56

the look of the Thing. But I would

4:58

think that they didn't really have the idea of

5:00

turning this into a live action franchise

5:03

at the point of conception. So

5:05

I think that's why historically Fantastic

5:09

Four has had such a rough go at

5:11

the box office and when it came to the

5:13

big screen adaptations. First you had Fantastic

5:16

Four in nineteen ninety four, which

5:18

was the movie that never saw the light

5:20

of day. And just to give you context

5:23

on how bad this movie was, here

5:25

is a scene in the movie where

5:27

Ben Grimm first turns into

5:30

the Thing, and he sounds like Patrick Starr

5:32

from SpongeBob.

5:47

Ben, We're all gonna go get some help. Tell

5:49

me that doesn't sound like an episode of SpongeBob.

5:52

I want all of you got to look at it. That's

5:54

a SpongeBob reference for all you pineapple

5:57

heads out there. And I would argue

5:59

that in between nineteen ninety four

6:01

and all the way to two thousand and five, they

6:04

didn't improve that much in quality.

6:06

They still had that level of cheese, which

6:08

I guess going into it you have to expect

6:11

a little bit. So maybe that is

6:13

something that I just fully didn't

6:16

understand about these movies. But anyway, you

6:18

had it in two thousand and five Rides

6:20

of the Silver Surfer in two thousand and seven.

6:23

In those movies, you had Johann

6:25

Griffith as Reid Richard's Jessica

6:27

Alba as Sue Storm, Chris Evans

6:30

as Johnny Storm aka the Human Torch,

6:33

who he would go on to be in another Marvel

6:35

franchise, The Avengers, and of course Captain

6:37

America. He had Michael Chickliss

6:39

as Ben Grimm aka the Thing. And

6:41

then you had Julian McMahon as Victor

6:44

von Doom. And the thing

6:46

is Doctor Doom is such a great character

6:49

in the comic books, but on

6:51

screen in these movies, his mask looks

6:54

terrible, and he is such an incredibly

6:56

cheesy villain that it almost looks

6:59

like you're watching a bad soap opera.

7:01

But you had that one in two thousand and five, follow

7:04

it up with a sequel in two thousand and seven, which

7:06

the Silver Surfer is another great comic

7:08

book hero. And I feel like these

7:11

movies just came out at the wrong time. If

7:13

you took this same cast and put

7:15

it into the twenty and fifteen version,

7:17

I think it would have been a better movie. But

7:19

then they tried to get in twenty fifteen. You

7:22

have Miles Teller this time as Read Richard's

7:24

aka Mister Fantastic, Kate Mara

7:27

as Sue Storm, Michael B. Jordan

7:29

as the Human Torch, Jamie

7:31

Bell as Ben Grimm, and Tony

7:33

Kebble as Doctor Doom. This

7:36

is a pretty decent cast, but

7:38

somehow they managed to make this movie

7:41

even cheesier. And I think what happened

7:43

here is they spent more money and paid

7:45

more attention to detail on the special

7:48

effects. That the script in this movie

7:50

was terrible, And the scene

7:52

that drives me crazy is

7:54

how they finally decide to name

7:57

their group, listen to

7:59

the level of acting and just poor

8:02

writing in this clip.

8:03

Come along way since the garage.

8:07

It's fantastic. Say that

8:09

again, it's fantastic. Yes

8:13

it is, guys,

8:15

I got it, And then it cuts

8:17

to their name. Fantastic for that's

8:19

how they came up with it. That is terrible,

8:22

terrible writing. So that

8:25

is the reason I have not the

8:27

highest of expectations going

8:29

into this movie, even though this

8:32

new one has a fantastic cast, which

8:34

I want to get into now. Just announce this

8:36

past week on Valentine's Day, which

8:38

I thought it was a really cool way that Marvel announced

8:41

it. They essentially put out this old school

8:43

looking Valentine's Day card

8:46

and then you had all the actors

8:48

in their suits drawn

8:50

animated. It was a really cool retro

8:52

looking way and a fun way to announce

8:54

a movie. Casting one of the best

8:57

I've seen in years. When I saw

8:59

it the official casting, even though it all

9:01

been kind of rumored, I was like, Okay, this

9:03

actually looks like it could be pretty good,

9:05

and it's going to come down to how good

9:08

is the script and how much are

9:10

they going to pay attention to the visual effects,

9:13

because you can't have but these visual

9:15

effects given all of these characters,

9:18

but also you have to come through with a much stronger

9:20

story that we've had in the past.

9:22

So Pedro Pascal is Read

9:24

Richard's aka mister Fantastic. Pedro

9:27

Pascal is a really hot actor

9:29

right now, coming off the Last

9:31

of Us. I feel like he is somebody that everybody

9:34

wants a piece of right now. For an

9:36

actor who's been around a while,

9:38

is now really translating into becoming

9:40

a full out movie star. So I

9:43

feel like him taking on this

9:45

role, they have to kind

9:47

of queue him up on the plan that his

9:49

character has throughout the MCU.

9:52

I don't feel like he would take this as a one off.

9:55

I feel like they had to offer him a multi

9:57

movie deal to connect him in

9:59

the EMS, so whether

10:01

it be more Fantastic

10:04

Four movies or also cameos

10:06

in the new Avengers movies or Secret Wars

10:08

movies, which the Fantastic Four are

10:11

probably going to play a bigger role in those movies

10:13

given that we don't really have any Avengers

10:15

anymore. I was just rereading Secret Wars

10:17

and it really made me excited to see

10:20

a more refined Read Richards,

10:22

which is what you have in that Secret

10:24

Wars. For yes, he is super smart, like he

10:26

has been depicted in movies, but

10:29

also has some internal struggles

10:31

and things going on in his mind, and

10:33

I feel like Pedro Pescal could be the person

10:36

to bring that out and read Richards as

10:38

Sue Storm aka the Invisible Woman.

10:40

You have Vanessa Kirby, who maybe

10:42

I kind of missed a boat on her, but it's

10:44

really been in the last year that I've been more familiar

10:47

with her and enjoying her performances in movies

10:49

like Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning. I thought she

10:51

was really good in that and in Napoleon,

10:54

even though I didn't love that movie, I

10:56

thought her performance was great that

10:58

movie. I could care less about Napoleon.

11:00

I cared more about her character, which

11:03

was the wife of Napoleon. So I

11:05

feel like she's also on the rise right now.

11:07

And she has shown me in two

11:10

different types of movies that she can do action

11:12

and she can do drama. Put those two

11:14

together and we have her as Sue

11:16

Storm in Fantastic Four, and

11:18

then Joseph Quinn, who you would know

11:20

as Eddie Munson in the latest season

11:22

of Stranger Things. He is kind

11:25

of coming on the rise now too. Obviously

11:27

that has made him, I wouldn't say, a huge

11:29

star, but it's made him notable, and

11:32

that show has such a big fan

11:34

base that I feel like they

11:36

have him because Okay, you have people who

11:38

recognize you, now it's time to put you

11:40

in a big Hollywood movie to see what you got

11:43

kid. Then, as Ben Grimm aka

11:45

the Thing, we have Evan Moss

11:48

Backrack, who you would know as cousin

11:50

in The Bear, another actor

11:52

here who has found success in the last

11:54

couple years and now really cashing

11:57

in on that. And I think he's a really good actor.

11:59

He is probably one of the biggest driving

12:01

forces in The Bear, and The Thing

12:04

is probably a hard character to

12:06

play because if you've seen the

12:08

other movies, you are on screen

12:10

as Ben Grimm for a very limited

12:13

amount of time, then your role translates

12:15

into voice acting. They'll probably

12:18

have him stand in as the Thing,

12:21

kind of like they did Mark Ruffalo as

12:23

The Incredible Hulk. Put some big suit

12:25

on him, put some tracking on his face,

12:27

and then use his movements to

12:30

I would hope impose on the character

12:33

that way. It has a little bit more of a human

12:35

feel to it and not just look like

12:37

a big clump of rocks like the Thing is. So maybe

12:40

that'll work or maybe they'll just go back and make

12:42

them as comic accurate as possible.

12:44

So I like the cast. It looks promising.

12:48

I just really hope that the MCU isn't

12:50

investing so much in The Fantastic Four,

12:52

which is historically not performed

12:55

the best. And if you're in

12:57

a situation where you're looking for your new

12:59

ev you're looking for your new team

13:01

for everybody to root for, but

13:04

most importantly pay money to go see

13:06

in theaters, that has me a little bit

13:08

worried. Now, let's get into some

13:10

of the best castings in movie

13:13

history. Since we're talking about superhero

13:15

movies, I'll kick it off with a couple

13:17

that I have at the top of my list, and I

13:20

think this one might be hands

13:22

down the most important

13:25

movie casting of all time, and

13:27

it is Robert Downey Junior as Iron

13:29

Man. First movie came out back in two

13:31

thousand and eight. Jon

13:34

Favreau, who directed the movie, saw

13:36

Robert Downey Junior and kiss Kiss Bank Bank

13:38

and thought his wit, his charm, his

13:41

depth would be perfect for Tony

13:43

Stark. And this is back when Marvel

13:45

was not what we know it to be now, and

13:49

this was so essential going

13:52

down the line because at the forefront

13:54

of the MCU, and really

13:57

the heart of the entire Infinity

13:59

saga was Robert Downey

14:01

Jr. As iron Man. He threw

14:03

the entire MCU on his back

14:06

and carried it. If

14:08

you put iron Man in any of the Marvel

14:10

movies, it would instantly make it a better

14:13

movie. He proved it. And

14:15

not only that, he got paid and

14:17

they realized that because he made millions

14:20

and millions of dollars as

14:23

Tony Stark and iron Man, so

14:25

much so that if the MCU

14:28

ever gets desperate again and they need

14:30

that money, they're gonna bring

14:32

it back sooner than we want because

14:35

he is so good at it. And I think

14:38

iron Man is one of the most iconic

14:40

and important characters in modern

14:42

cinema and has made billions

14:44

of dollars at the box office. And

14:47

it was also a bit of a risk to cast

14:49

Robert Downey Jr. Who had

14:51

had issues in the past and had

14:53

gone through stuff and was

14:56

seen as kind of a risky choice to

14:58

base your entire movie studio

15:01

on. This is gonna be the guy

15:03

at the forefront of everything. But it worked

15:06

out perfectly. So at the

15:08

top of my list, I'm not gonna rank these

15:10

all in order, But that is

15:12

such a big important

15:14

part of the history of Marvel

15:17

for over a decade

15:19

and has left such an impression that

15:21

without that, Marvel would have been

15:23

much like it had been before going bankrupt

15:26

and not being able to catch the check.

15:28

So Robert Downey Junior

15:30

as Ironman one of the best

15:33

of all time. Along those same lines,

15:35

before there was Ironman, there was Wolverine.

15:38

Hugh Jackman is Wolverine

15:40

is incredible and I'm gonna get into the Deadpool

15:42

Wolverine trailer later. And the crazy

15:44

thing about this is Hugh Jackman

15:47

actually wasn't the first pick for the role. Dugray

15:49

Scott was initially cast as

15:52

Wolverine, but he had to drop out because he had

15:54

scheduling conflicts. And then

15:56

the director saw Hugh Jackman's performance

15:59

in the stage reduction of Oklahoma and

16:02

saw how charismatic Hugh Jackman

16:04

was and also just how strong

16:06

he was physically. And that is the

16:08

other bizarre thing about Hugh Jackman

16:11

is we know him as Wolverine, we know him

16:14

as being able to do action movies,

16:16

but the dude can sing and is so classically

16:19

trained in musicals. I could

16:21

see nobody else as

16:23

Wolverine, and I feel like he

16:25

is an actor that just immerses himself

16:28

in a role when it comes down to

16:30

the hair and the wardrobe and the physical

16:33

attributes to me, he is Wolverine,

16:35

even though in the comic books Wolverine

16:38

is a much shorter character. Is

16:40

this really hard headed compact, dude,

16:43

But once you put Hugh Jackman on the big screen,

16:46

it is undeniable. We'll get

16:48

out of the superhero world for a minute.

16:50

And also on my list, I have Chris

16:53

Tucker as Smoky in Friday, which

16:55

came out back in nineteen ninety seven.

16:58

The way Chris Tucker got this role the

17:00

director Gary Gray saw

17:02

Chris Tucker doing stand up and thought, man,

17:04

I could use that guy in my movie

17:07

because he's very energetic. He's so charismatic.

17:10

I just love listening to Chris Tucker talk

17:12

with all the inflection and emotion

17:14

in his voice that it just makes me laugh.

17:17

And the reason I feel like this is one of the best movie

17:19

castings of all time is because

17:22

whenever a sequel gets brought up, everybody

17:25

wants to know if he's gonna come

17:27

back as Smoky. That is the

17:29

sign of an iconic character and

17:32

an amazing performance. Because

17:34

they've made a lot of sequels to Friday,

17:36

but Chris Tucker has not returned.

17:38

And when they made that movie, the actors

17:41

didn't make a whole lot of money. It was essentially

17:43

an indie movie that ended up being such

17:45

a hit that you think gets crazy

17:48

that he probably only got paid maybe

17:50

a few thousand dollars to be Smoky.

17:52

And they also filmed that movie so fast

17:54

that for these actors' lives, it

17:56

was little slice of their

17:59

year, a little slow of time that

18:01

has lasted their entire career.

18:04

But Chris Tucker is fantastic

18:07

as Smoky. I've watched that movie

18:09

countless times and he still makes me laugh.

18:11

One of the best movie castings of all time.

18:14

We'll get out of the nineties, move over to the two

18:16

thousands into a holiday

18:18

movie. Will Ferrell as Buddy

18:20

the Elf in Elf in two

18:23

thousand and three. And the thing about

18:25

this casting that is impressive is that

18:27

Will Ferrell was not at the status

18:30

that he is now back in two thousand and three

18:32

when he was cast and this movie came out. John

18:35

Favreau, who directed this movie another

18:37

name we've heard on this list before as a director.

18:39

He was really just a big fan of Will Ferrell from

18:41

his Saturday Night live performances, so

18:44

to cast him in this movie, much

18:46

like we've seen historically through this list,

18:49

was also a bit of a risk because he wasn't

18:51

a household name. The studio

18:53

wanted somebody more recognizable.

18:56

But Jon Favreau, being the amazing

18:58

director he is, saw the vision

19:00

that Will Ferrell is Buddy the

19:02

Yelf. He has the comedic timing, he has

19:04

the look, he has what we need

19:06

to make this movie work. And he was completely

19:09

correct. So a great

19:11

move on Jon Favreau's part. But also

19:14

the reason I consider it to be one

19:16

of the best movie castings of all time is

19:18

because it catapulted Will

19:20

Ferrell's comedic career in

19:23

movies. So we went from having supporting

19:25

roles in movies like Old School to

19:28

having a slew of starring

19:30

roles in comedies through the two thousands

19:33

and into the early twenty tens, and this

19:35

was the movie role that made him undeniable

19:38

in Hollywood. We'll get out

19:40

of family Christmas movies

19:42

and move way back into the eighties. In

19:45

horror, Robert England

19:47

as Freddy Krueger in A Nightmare on

19:49

Elm Street back in nineteen eighty four.

19:52

Robert England just has the look.

19:54

Even when he's not wearing the Freddy Krueger makeup,

19:57

all I can see in his face is Freddy Krueger,

19:59

which I am imagine is both a blessing

20:01

and a curse, because I feel like he loves the

20:04

Freddy Krueger character. He

20:06

goes to comic cons, he does all these things

20:08

because he is dedicated

20:10

to the fan base. But I have

20:13

to imagine that gets a little bit hard because

20:16

Freddy Krueger is known as being

20:18

a pretty vile, unattractive

20:21

characters, so to be associated

20:23

with that day after day when you go to the

20:25

grocery store has to be pretty

20:27

tough. But also you are

20:30

one of the most iconic horror characters

20:32

of all times, So I think the two

20:34

probably outweigh each other. When

20:37

it comes to how Robert England was cast

20:39

as Freddy Krueger, Director Wes

20:41

Craven just saw him in a television

20:43

mini series and he saw his ability

20:45

to bring a sinister presence to a

20:48

character. And he also thought that his charisma

20:50

and physicality would be perfect for Freddy

20:53

Krueger, which I feel like is a pretty

20:55

demanding role based upon

20:58

the mind frame that you have to be in to

21:00

do some of the things that Freddy Krueger

21:03

does. Have that comedic timing

21:05

as well, because Freddy is a funny

21:07

character even though it is a horror movie,

21:09

and then also have the look that makes

21:12

it believable without being completely

21:14

cheesy. I could see no one

21:16

else as Freddy Krueger. I mentioned

21:18

recently that it's probably time to remake

21:21

a Nightmare on Elm Street. I'm at

21:23

the point where I just want to see all of

21:25

the original horror characters

21:28

do movies where they are just aging. They

21:30

kind of did it with Halloween in the most recent

21:32

installments, do it with Freddy Krueger,

21:34

an aging Freddy Krueger having a little

21:36

bit of a harder time killing people

21:39

in their sleep. Next up from

21:41

two thousand and nine, I have Christoph walt

21:43

as Hans and Inglorious Bastards.

21:46

I think this is one of the best movie villains

21:49

of all time, and Christoph

21:51

Waltz just plays a villain so

21:54

incredibly well. He went on to win

21:56

an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.

21:58

He is such a great actor. He

22:01

wasn't even supposed to be a central

22:03

figure in the movie, but after

22:05

being so impressed with his audition, Tarantino

22:08

decided to go back and rewrite the character

22:11

and put him at the forefront of the film,

22:13

and it works together so beautifully. You

22:15

can see it from the very opening scene

22:17

of this movie, the tension that he brings

22:19

to the situation that seems not insignificant

22:22

but almost just ordinary. He

22:25

takes it up to a level of ten. I

22:27

just love the way that he speaks in this movie,

22:29

and that he is so menacing and

22:31

that you, as the viewer, want

22:33

to take him down yourself because he is such

22:35

a driving force and such a great

22:38

villain an oscar well deserved.

22:40

I have Christoph Waltz as Hans

22:42

and Inglorious Bastards also

22:44

on my list, going back to the seventies,

22:47

Harrison Ford as Hans Solo

22:49

in Star Wars, and it's him more

22:51

so than any other actor in this movie.

22:54

No disrespect to Mark Hamill, but I

22:56

think he's not the only actor I could

22:58

see doing that role. Justice

23:00

and Carrie Fisher rip is

23:03

fantastic and iconic as Princess

23:05

Leia, but I think without Harrison

23:07

Ford as Hans Solo, these

23:10

movies would not have had the same effect.

23:12

And I also just love the story

23:14

of how Harrison Ford was

23:16

cast in the role. He really

23:19

wasn't pursuing acting as

23:22

you would think to land a role like this.

23:24

He was already in his thirties, but he was working

23:26

as a carpenter and he ended up

23:28

getting an audition with George

23:30

Lucas. They had worked together on American

23:33

Graffiti, so we actually brought in Harrison

23:35

Ford to read lines with other actors

23:38

who are auditioning for different roles in

23:40

the movie, and then George Lucas

23:42

was impressed by how Harrison

23:45

Ford was portraying Han Solo and thought,

23:48

that is exactly what I envisioned for this character.

23:50

He's rugged, he's charismatic, he

23:52

has the essence of Han Solo that

23:54

we need. And initially Harrison

23:57

Ford was a little bit reluctant to take

23:59

the role again, and he was working as a

24:01

carpenter for lucasfilm. He

24:03

wasn't really trying to be a full on

24:05

Hollywood actor, and then decided

24:08

to accept the role and went on

24:10

to become an icon in film.

24:12

From this, he did all the other Star Wars movies.

24:15

He went on to be Indiana Jones. I mean

24:18

for an actor like Harrison four to be

24:20

not one two but like three super

24:23

iconic characters in film and

24:26

get his start so much later

24:28

in life in his thirties, which is inspiring to

24:30

me as somebody who was thirty two gonna turn thirty

24:32

three this year. Just shows

24:34

you that don't compare yourself

24:37

to others. Don't think you have to be on some kind

24:39

of a timeline and think, oh, I'm thirty

24:41

or I'm forty. Even if I'm fifty, I

24:44

couldn't start this now. You go

24:46

through history and see people who made

24:48

it later in life because they were just

24:50

good at what they did, because maybe

24:53

they waited at the right time. I

24:55

don't always believe that good

24:57

things come to those who wait. I think

24:59

good things come to those who go

25:02

out and try and find them,

25:04

but also have the patience to take rejection

25:08

and the drive and determination to keep trying

25:10

and trying again when things don't work out.

25:13

So the waiting is kind of the byproduct

25:15

of all the hard work that you actually put in.

25:18

But to know that you could be in

25:20

her thirties and still

25:22

the greatest things that you will accomplish

25:24

are still ahead of you is inspiring

25:27

to me. I see that as Harrison

25:29

Ford and Han solo and Star Wars. That

25:31

is why I included him on this list. We'll

25:34

run through some more a little bit quicker.

25:36

Of course, I gotta mention Heath Ledger

25:38

as the Joker in the Dark Night. I

25:40

don't need to go in extensively. Why

25:43

I think that is. You've heard me rave

25:45

on and on about Heath Ledger as the Joker

25:47

on this podcast time and time again.

25:49

But it would be a discredit to his performance

25:52

and not include him on this list. I would also

25:54

include Judy Garland as Dorothy Gale

25:56

in The Wizard of Oz back in nineteen thirty

25:58

nine, Alongo Say. I would

26:00

also have Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka

26:03

in the original movie, because I

26:05

wasn't that familiar with Gene Wilder and all

26:07

the amazing work he has done in comedy from Blazing

26:09

Saddles see No Evil, Here No Evil,

26:12

just a couple of my favorites, which those

26:14

movies came out after Willy Wonka. But he

26:17

is an actor that I feel like a lot

26:19

of people might not know

26:22

all of his other work or even in Young Frankenstein.

26:24

The list goes on and on with how many

26:26

great movies he has started. And

26:29

it's because of this role as Willy

26:31

Wonka being one of the most iconic

26:33

out of all of them, that if you

26:35

were just a surface

26:37

level movie fan, maybe that's the only

26:39

one you know him for, which

26:41

is fine. But I also think it's because

26:44

he did such a great job at

26:46

portraying that character and making him

26:49

iconic. And it's because of

26:51

the wardrobe, but it's also because of his performance

26:53

and the way he played the character that

26:56

has this odd

26:58

charm to it. Also like this weird,

27:01

sinister vibe, all the

27:03

quirks that he incorporated in Willie

27:05

Wonka that would go on to

27:07

be replicated and imitated,

27:10

sometimes poorly, with Johnny

27:12

Depp and Timothy Shallowmey. It's

27:14

because of Gene Wilder. So

27:16

the impact he has had on the role

27:19

is why he is undeniably one of the best

27:21

movie castings of all time. And

27:23

then in the two thousands, I'm

27:25

gonna put Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson

27:29

both being cast in Harry Potter, which

27:31

they kind of had similar roads

27:33

to being cast in these movies. The

27:36

books were obviously incredibly successful,

27:38

so casting was extensive

27:41

of they literally just had open casting

27:43

calls trying to find kids who

27:45

could play these characters, and Daniel

27:47

Radcliffe was somebody who the

27:50

filmmakers were impressed by

27:52

not only his performances and some other things

27:54

he had acted in, but also

27:56

how he resembled and looked like Harry

27:58

Potter in the books. It was almost

28:00

like the best of both worlds because even

28:03

though he was a kid, he was really

28:05

smart and articulate and could

28:07

easily play the role. But he also actually

28:09

looked like Harry Potter, so he was almost destined

28:12

to play the character. And then with Emma Watson,

28:15

along the same lines with Daniel Radcliffe,

28:17

they were impressed by how confident she was,

28:19

how smart she was. She had this natural

28:21

acting ability that aligned with the character

28:23

of Hermione. Now you probably

28:26

ask why I didn't include Rupert

28:28

Grint as Ron Weasley. Again,

28:31

I think that is a casting that I

28:33

could see somebody else in that role. I

28:36

think there's an alternate timeline somewhere

28:38

where somebody else is cast in that role and

28:40

it's actually the right person meant to be

28:42

playing his character, and we're

28:45

living in the timeline where Rupert Grind played

28:48

Ron Weasley. I don't even know who Rupert Grint

28:50

is, but that's probably just me and

28:53

Finally, let's go all

28:55

the way back to superhero

28:57

movies. I have JK. Simmons as

28:59

Jay Jonah Jamison and Spider Man,

29:02

and he is one of the only characters in Spider

29:05

Man who has constantly been the

29:07

same person. J Jonah Jamison was

29:09

not only in the Toby maguire Spider Man movies,

29:12

but he is so good that they

29:14

brought him back as j Jonah Jamison

29:16

in the Tom Holland Spider Man movies.

29:19

He was cast after director Sam Raimi

29:21

saw his performance in a movie called The Gift and they

29:23

thought he had the perfect combination

29:26

of humor and intensity, which, oh

29:29

man, J Jonah Jamison is all about

29:31

the intensity and about that incredible

29:33

haircut. J Jonah Jamison has a haircut

29:35

they can really set your watch too. But I think

29:37

the most important thing about him is that big

29:39

booming voice that he has when he's yelling

29:42

about Spider Man. JK. Simmons

29:44

captures that perfectly, and he is always

29:46

one of the best things out of any Spider

29:48

Man movie. And to wrap this up, I had

29:50

more on my list, and I'll go through them

29:52

in about thirty seconds without a whole lot of depths,

29:55

but just because I wanted to include them on this

29:57

list. Here we go. Javier Bardem as

29:59

Anton Sugar and No Country for Old Men, James

30:01

Earl Jones as Mufassa in The Lion King

30:04

al Pacino with Tony Montana in Scarface,

30:06

Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator

30:08

in Terminator, galal Gado

30:10

as Wonder Woman, Jennifer Lawrence

30:13

as Catnus Eberdeen in The Hunger Games, Robin

30:15

william as the Genie and Aladdin, and

30:18

Henry cavill as Superman in Man

30:20

of Steel. Well come back, I'll

30:22

give my spoiler free review of Madam

30:24

Webb, and in the trailer park we'll talk about

30:26

Deadpool and Wolverine.

30:33

All right, let's get into it. A spoiler free review

30:35

of Madam Webb, starring Dakota Johnson.

30:38

This is a standalone, quote unquote

30:40

superhero movie. She

30:43

plays a paramedic who discovers

30:45

she has the ability to see into the future,

30:48

and she's connected with these three other teenagers

30:51

and they are trying to avoid

30:53

being killed by this really weird

30:56

villain who has a long history with the

30:58

mom of Dakota Johnson. And

31:00

that is really all the story that is in this movie.

31:03

Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm gonna compose myself.

31:06

The thing about this movie, and what I've

31:08

shared with you on this podcast, is that

31:11

I don't like to read reviews and

31:13

I will not seek them out going into a movie.

31:15

I don't listen to anybody else on TikTok, which

31:17

I know is probably contradicting myself,

31:19

because I want you to listen to me, but I don't do it

31:22

as a reviewer because I don't want my thoughts

31:24

tainted by somebody else. I don't

31:26

want to even resemble an opinion that

31:28

somebody else has because then it won't feel like

31:30

me. So I still

31:32

did not read any individual review.

31:35

I didn't listen to anybody on TikTok, but

31:37

it was hard to avoid all

31:40

of the articles and Rotten Tomatoes

31:42

posting NonStop and just seeing the headlines,

31:45

which is really all I saw going into this movie.

31:48

And I feel like my perception of the movie was

31:50

already tainted because people

31:53

are calling this movie the worst Marvel movie

31:55

of all time. They are dragging

31:58

Dakota Johnson, they are dragging the

32:00

director, and I feel

32:02

like when that happens, people tend to pile

32:04

up and with all these movie influencers

32:06

and other YouTubers and podcasters.

32:10

I often feel like sometimes one

32:12

person who is established has an opinion,

32:15

and everybody else who kind of runs in that same

32:17

circle starts having that same opinion

32:19

because they don't want to look like, Oh, if

32:21

they had that opinion and I actually liked it, what

32:23

would that say about me? I don't care

32:26

about that. If I genuinely like this movie,

32:28

I would tell you. But going into this movie,

32:31

I already had this perception that it was going to

32:33

be so bad, so I was bracing for

32:35

impact. I was expecting

32:37

to watch the worst garbage of all time.

32:40

And in the past couple of years, they have been maybe

32:43

two or three movies, maybe four,

32:45

that I've wanted to walk out of, and I was prepared

32:47

to have that kind of emotion going into this movie.

32:50

And maybe it's because I had that brace for impact

32:52

mentality. Then I don't think

32:54

it was as bad as I was expecting it

32:57

to be. I was expecting it

32:59

to be a turd on the screen, and

33:01

that is not exactly what happened. Did

33:03

I love the movie by no means was it a

33:05

good movie? No? But

33:08

I do think there is kind of an audience

33:10

for this movie. Bear with me, now, look at

33:12

me. If you're watching on YouTube or if you're

33:14

a longtime listener, here part of the movie crew.

33:16

You know I love Spider Man. Have this entire

33:19

studio decked out in Spider Man comics.

33:21

I am wearing my Spider Man shirt

33:23

today. I think that is who this

33:26

movie was for now. This movie comes to

33:28

us from the Sony Spider Verse, not

33:30

the MCU, which is another big

33:32

issue. They have hered coda. Johnson

33:34

herself might have not even known that she

33:36

wasn't joining the MCU. She was joining

33:39

the Sony Spider Verse, two very different

33:41

things. One of them gives

33:43

us the Avengers, gives us Iron

33:46

Man all of those, and the other one has given

33:48

us in recent years Venom

33:50

Morbius and now Madam

33:53

Webb. So it is viewed as being

33:55

the lower tier Marvel. But

33:58

I feel as a just general

34:00

movie goo where you might not know that my wife Kelsey,

34:03

who is as in tune

34:05

with movies as much as I am,

34:07

didn't really know the difference. Dakota

34:10

Johnson herself and all the press she did

34:12

for this movie, I am convinced

34:14

she thought she was a part of the MCU. There's

34:17

this whole theory going on of is

34:19

the Sony Spider Verse kind

34:22

of tricking actors into thinking they're joining

34:24

the MCU, thinking they're gonna be in a Marvel movie

34:26

and have the same kind of prestige

34:29

that comes along with taking one of those roles.

34:31

I don't think that's completely true, because there

34:33

has to be agents, there has to be managers,

34:36

there has to be somebody telling these actors,

34:38

hey, you're joining the Sony side,

34:41

You're not gonna be on the Disney side.

34:44

But in all the interviews that Dakota Johnson

34:46

gave, she was talking about

34:48

how all the movies are connected. She's not

34:50

that familiar with Marvel movies. She

34:52

doesn't really know a whole lot of female Marvel

34:55

superheroes. One of my favorite

34:58

clips was somebody giving her an

35:00

actual comic of Madam

35:02

Webb and she was like, oh boy,

35:05

because she is not familiar with the

35:07

source material. I don't think she's ever

35:09

watched a Marvel movie, to be honest, And

35:11

I feel like that's also why some nerds

35:14

like myself are a little bit hurt, because we

35:16

think when actors take on these roles, they

35:18

spend all this time doing research,

35:20

reading comics, watching all the other movies.

35:22

At the end of the day, they are actors.

35:25

They are the elite of Hollywood.

35:28

They don't watch these movies like we

35:30

do. They are not nerds like us. Despite

35:33

the amount of effort that we want

35:35

them to put into it, they're not going to do

35:37

it. For some of these actors, it is merely

35:40

a paycheck and then sometimes

35:42

just a step to take on another

35:45

project. I really got that

35:47

perception from Dakota Johnson, and I

35:49

like her as an actor. I've come on and

35:51

defended her and said that she is one of the most underrated

35:54

actors in Hollywood, and it's weird

35:56

that you take on one not so great

35:58

role and people change the perception of you.

36:01

I find myself struggling with her right now

36:03

because I feel like she was

36:05

trying to just be her authentic self, and interviews

36:08

and all the promotion leading up to this, I

36:10

saw a lot of people saying they wanted to

36:12

cancel their tickets. She was trying her

36:15

hardest. But if you have

36:17

hardcore Marvel fans coming at

36:19

you with the first edition of

36:21

Madam Webb in the comics and expecting you

36:23

to know about it, it is going to be tough.

36:26

I think her team should have trained her a little bit better

36:28

on how to answer some of these questions,

36:31

because I was surprised

36:33

to see how empty the theater

36:36

was that we went to on a Friday night,

36:38

a seven o'clock showing. The

36:41

theater was very, very empty.

36:43

I've gone to a lot of Friday night

36:46

Thursday night showings for movies

36:48

that have been kind of wishy watching. Even Argyle

36:51

had more of an audience in there. It was

36:53

crazy to me how much of an

36:56

influence that all these negative reviews had

36:58

on this movie, because in my heart, I don't

37:00

think it's an all out just terrible, terrible

37:03

movie. It has a

37:05

lot of issues that I want to get into now,

37:07

but I think a lot of it roots

37:09

from the eighty million dollar price tag,

37:11

which Dakota Johnson was paid five million dollars

37:14

for this role, and the eighty million

37:16

dollar budget really shows in this

37:18

film because we were

37:21

teased in the trailer with all of

37:23

this action. Sidney Sweeney in the suit.

37:25

They had her in the promo talking about

37:27

how she wanted her character Julia to

37:30

repel because it was iconic. There

37:33

was very little action in the

37:35

suits in this movie, and they

37:37

tried to disguise it with a

37:39

story that was really just paper

37:41

thin. You would drop this thing in water

37:44

and it would dissipate because the story

37:46

was so weak. It tried to create

37:48

this mystery with Madam Webb developing

37:50

her powers of predicting

37:52

the future and trying to

37:55

figure out her past with their mom.

37:57

And it also just teas ues with Spider Man

38:00

being connected with this story, which I

38:02

think that is who this movie was said to be

38:04

for, was hardcore Spider Man fans like

38:06

myself. We're gonna go watch

38:09

these movies because we just want any kind

38:11

of inkling of our favorite

38:13

web Slinger. And they were just kind of

38:15

throwing it out there so randomly

38:17

and so just like here you go, you

38:20

nerds. And that is exactly how I felt watching

38:22

this movie that Sony, in association

38:24

with Marvel thinks that

38:27

us nerds will just go watch anything. Ah,

38:29

they'll take it all in and we'll make some money off

38:31

of it. Throw eighty million dollars. We'll make that money

38:34

back. It was not the case here, And

38:37

I want to criticize the coda Johnson

38:39

so hard for giving a very dull performance.

38:42

She was trying her all, she was giving

38:45

it her best effort, but I almost

38:47

felt like I was still watching her On

38:49

Saturday Night Live, she gave an interview

38:51

two weeks before the premiere, saying, I don't

38:53

know if it's good or not. I was acting on a

38:56

blue screen for a majority of the film.

38:58

It felt weird. All

39:00

of these warning signs I saw going

39:02

into this film. It was gonna be really

39:05

hard to come back from that, and that is

39:07

what you have here. She is trying her all

39:09

to act her way out of a hole, but

39:11

she has no tolls around

39:13

her. The villain in this movie,

39:16

his dialogue felt so ai generated

39:18

and I don't know what this villain personality

39:21

was. Now. I don't think this is one of the worst

39:23

superhero movies of all time, but

39:25

it definitely has the worst super

39:27

villain of all time, miserable.

39:30

I was watching his performance because

39:32

it was like a cliche nineties

39:35

villain that you would make fun of it in Austin

39:37

Powers movie. It was so bad, and

39:40

he even had like this secret layer

39:42

with somebody behind the chair running

39:44

all of these monitoring systems. It

39:47

was awful, worst

39:49

super villain of all time, and the reason

39:51

I wouldn't call it a worst superhero movie

39:53

of all time because it is hardly

39:56

that Madam Webb in this movie

39:58

is not a superhero. It

40:00

is all the standalone backstory leading

40:03

up to the superhero moment, and

40:05

then it cuts you off. That's enough for you. You're

40:07

not getting that anything

40:09

that started to resemble anything from the source

40:11

material from the comic was left out of

40:13

this movie except for one detail, and

40:15

by the time we got to that, it felt

40:18

so awkward and so off putting

40:21

that it made zero sense. Probably

40:24

thirty minutes worth of story spread

40:26

out over an hour and forty five

40:28

minutes, maybe a little bit over, and

40:30

you could tell in this movie it was like they used

40:32

that editing tool where you stretch something out because

40:35

you don't have enough material. That is what they

40:37

did. There were scenes where they were driving, nothing

40:39

being said, nothing happening, and

40:41

they just put this very generic score

40:43

over it and gave about a thirty second buffer

40:46

to get to the next scene. It

40:48

felt like they had a script and they were trying

40:50

to meet a certain word count, Like back

40:53

in eighth grade when I was trying to write a paper

40:55

that needed to be three pages long, and I'm like, all right,

40:57

let's just instead of using contractions, you start

40:59

spelling out some words that is what this movie

41:02

was doing, and it was completely noticeable.

41:05

They thought I wasn't gonna catch it, and

41:07

I think it goes without saying, but the eighty million

41:09

dollar budget also hurt the visual

41:12

effects. So when it comes down to it,

41:14

this movie was just hard to take

41:17

seriously because it was soap

41:19

opera level acting, two

41:22

thousands video game graphics,

41:24

and a cheesy story with no mystery

41:27

whatsoever that I didn't really

41:29

care what was going to happen to these characters.

41:31

Nothing heroic happened. There

41:34

wasn't any superhero action. It

41:36

was really just to Coda Johnson learning how to

41:38

predict the future and running

41:40

away from the villain the entire time.

41:43

And it was the fact that nobody in this movie

41:45

questioned anything. They just went

41:47

along for the ride and then got there and

41:49

we're like, okay, I guess we're just following

41:51

to Coda Johnson throughout this entire

41:53

movie. I kind of feel like my parents

41:56

whenever they told me I'm not angry with

41:58

you, but I'm disappointed. It almost

42:00

just felt worse when they were just disappointed

42:02

in you. That is how I felt about this movie.

42:04

Because I'm such a big Spider Man fan and

42:07

I still don't know why they thought Madam

42:09

Webb is one character that needs

42:11

their own movie. They should have just

42:13

put Sidney Sweeney in the Spider Woman's suit

42:15

and called it a day. That would have been

42:17

a more entertaining movie. However, I'll

42:19

go back to the last bad movie I talked about,

42:21

which was Argyle. I thought that

42:23

movie obviously wasn't worth the

42:25

theay experience, but also wasn't worth

42:27

streaming for Madam Webb

42:30

since it got so much hate, and

42:32

since I still dedicated

42:35

myself to watching it so I could share my honest

42:37

thoughts with you. I still think

42:39

when it goes to streaming, maybe whenever it's available

42:42

for free on Netflix, just

42:44

give it a watch to get a perspective

42:46

on exactly what went wrong here. So

42:49

if you are a die hard Marvel

42:52

fan, a die hard Spider Man fan, I

42:55

would still not recommend.

42:57

Maybe it's kind of like when you watch something

43:00

bad to realize how bad

43:02

it is. That is the only reason

43:04

I would say it is worthy of a stream

43:07

because this will be referenced

43:09

a lot as being one of the worst superhero

43:11

movies of all time, even though I don't

43:14

think it's the worst of all time. I've seen some really

43:16

bad, awful movies. I'm looking at you,

43:18

DC, and I still don't know why Marvel

43:20

allows this to put out such an inferior

43:23

product in association with their name,

43:25

because people sometimes don't know the difference.

43:28

That being said, for Madam Webb, I give

43:30

it one point five out of five.

43:32

Oh, I don't even care to be creative

43:35

here. They didn't care to be creative. Let's just

43:37

do red jackets that Dakota Johnson

43:39

was wearing awkwardly in this entire movie.

43:44

It's time to head down to movie

43:46

Mike Traylor, Paul.

43:49

Because the MCU needs saving. That is

43:51

the question. I've been a fan

43:53

of the MSU for a very long time. I've

43:55

stood by them through thick and thin, and

43:59

I've been critical of their work

44:01

at times, but at the core

44:03

of my being, I still have always

44:06

believed in them. I don't necessarily

44:08

think that they need saving. What

44:10

I expressed was they needed to slow

44:13

down and really

44:15

focus on putting out just one

44:17

or two movies a year until

44:20

we can get rid of all these people

44:22

saying they're superhero fatigue and

44:24

how quickly Marvel fans are generally

44:28

to just turn on the MCU

44:30

because just last year, we were given one of the best

44:33

movies from Marvel with Guardians

44:35

of the Galaxy three, and everybody was raving about

44:37

it. And then they put out the Marvels

44:39

in November and everybody's like, ah,

44:42

it's all over, It's all over. And

44:45

now that the dead Pole and Wolverine trailer

44:47

has dropped, everybody's like, ah, the MCU

44:49

is back. So what side are

44:51

you on. I've always been

44:54

on the Marvel's side, but as big

44:56

of a fan as you are, you always criticize some

44:58

of the movies you don't love as much. But getting

45:01

into dead Pool and Wolverine, there

45:03

are so many things to be excited

45:05

about, and if the MCU did need

45:07

saving, this would be the movie

45:10

to do it. Not only just this

45:12

film alone, but I think it's gonna set up an

45:15

entire storyline in the MCU.

45:18

So I'm gonna get into all that. The movie is

45:20

coming out on July twenty sixth,

45:22

and initially I thought this movie was just gonna be called

45:24

Deadpool three. Now that it's dead

45:26

Pool and Wolverine that hasn't been even

45:29

more excited because he's gonna play such a bigger

45:31

role in this movie. Where I thought

45:33

it could have just been a cameo. But now,

45:35

oh man, there's a lot to dive into. So before

45:38

I get into more about Deadpool

45:40

and Wolverine, here's just a little bit of

45:42

the trailer. Waite wolfin Who's

45:44

asking whoa

45:46

whoa?

45:47

Whoa? Whoa? Whoa? Whoa? Whoa? Whoa?

45:48

Whoa whoa? Is that supposed to

45:50

be scary? Pegging isn't new for me, friend,

45:52

though, but it is for Disney.

45:54

Wait, you are

45:57

special, Zeel

46:00

Chompson, to be a hero

46:02

among heroes.

46:04

I smell when you're stepping in sense your

46:07

little cinematic universe is about

46:09

to change forever.

46:12

I'm the Messiah, I

46:15

am

46:18

Marvel Jesus.

46:22

So this trailer had everything I

46:24

was expecting from Deadpool. You

46:26

have the humor, you have the

46:29

naughty language, and you have the violence.

46:31

And I think for me personally, the

46:34

comedy in Deadpool is wearing on

46:36

me a little bit. I know that's what people love about

46:38

the character, his sarcastic humor,

46:40

which was greatly reflected in the comics,

46:43

and Ryan Reynolds does an amazing

46:45

job at doing it. But I don't really want

46:47

to go into another Deadpool movie

46:49

to laugh. What I really

46:51

find the most entertaining about these movies

46:54

is the R rating and the commitment to

46:57

really gory and really brutal

47:00

superhero violence, which we don't really

47:02

get anywhere else. I think that's what made the first movie

47:04

so groundbreaking, was it showing

47:07

blood and guts and being able to go

47:09

there. And this is Disney's first R

47:11

rated Marvel movie now that Deadpool

47:13

is no longer a Fox property, and

47:15

it's Deadpool's introduction

47:18

into the MCU, which is

47:20

the other thing that Deadpool plays

47:22

into a lot is the total medi

47:24

quality of all the movies

47:26

and being so self aware. We

47:28

see it in this trailer because what

47:31

this movie is going to be about that we heard

47:33

there. Deadpool is going to

47:35

be traveling through the multiverse. He finds

47:37

himself in a situation where he is dealing

47:39

with the TVA, which, if you are not familiar

47:41

with the Disney Plus show Loki,

47:43

they are essentially the guardians of

47:46

the timeline. So when you have all these

47:48

superheroes and people traveling through

47:50

all the timelines, the TVA is

47:52

the one who regulate that and keep things

47:55

from turning into chaos. So I think that's

47:57

an interesting way to connect Deadpool

47:59

into them mainly

48:01

because this means that they can really play

48:03

around bringing back characters, which is

48:05

what we see in this trailer. You have

48:08

characters coming out the Wazoo, from Fox,

48:10

Properties, from the MCU, and

48:12

it's all going to be combined into one movie

48:14

to create an all star list of

48:17

characters, and Hugh Jackman returning

48:19

as a more comic book accurate version

48:21

of the character. So, going back to

48:23

talking about how meta this movie is

48:25

going to be, you have the TVA

48:28

going after Deadpool. It seems to be he

48:30

is retired. He is just trying to

48:33

live a normal life. And the opening part

48:35

of this trailer you don't see him in the Deadpool

48:37

costume. You see him in this weird wig and

48:40

just hanging out with all of his friends, and then

48:42

they come to him with this plan of inviting

48:45

him to join the ranks of all the

48:47

big Marvel superheroes. When looking

48:49

at the TVs, you see Captain America, you see

48:51

Hulk, you see Thor, it seems to be

48:53

something that Deadpool has dreamed of of

48:56

maybe being a part of the Avengers. And

48:58

then instead of saying that he's good to do that,

49:00

he calls out saying that he is

49:02

ready to be a part of Marvel. You

49:05

even get a glimpse later in the trailer of the

49:07

twentieth century Fox logo in

49:09

shambles now that that is no longer a thing.

49:11

So I think the fun in this movie is going

49:13

to be Deadpool traveling around different

49:16

timelines in the multiverse and all

49:18

the characters he is going to interact

49:21

with. You get glimpses of what could

49:23

be a Professor X in this trailer. You

49:25

also see Pyro. You get a

49:27

line of Aaron Stanford saying, god, I love this

49:29

part, which he played Pyro in X two and

49:32

X Men in the Last Stand. So Deadpoole

49:34

obviously has a deep connection with the X

49:36

Men, and I think that is what a lot of MCU fans

49:39

have been really wanting to see in the MCU.

49:41

So it looks like we're going to get a lot of that. You

49:43

also got a glimpse of a character that appears

49:46

to be Doctor Doom, but if you

49:48

really take a look at it, it's really more of a Doctor

49:50

Doom inspired outfit. I don't think they're ready

49:52

to introduce him just yet. The thing

49:54

that has me the most excited where a

49:57

couple of Easter eggs in reference

49:59

to Secret Wars and the last scene

50:01

of this trailer, whenever Deadpool is lying on

50:03

the ground, you see to the right

50:05

of him a copy of Secret Wars,

50:07

the comic book, laying next to him,

50:10

kind of cuing us out thinking, Okay, this is going

50:12

to lead to something much bigger, either

50:14

the next Avengers or the next Secret

50:16

Wars movies, and thinking that Deadpool

50:18

and Wolverine could be a part of that is

50:21

one of the most exciting things to come of this. And I

50:23

don't want to get too ahead of ourselves and thinking

50:25

that this movie is going to crush therefore setting

50:27

up a lot of other things, But that

50:29

just has me really excited thinking about

50:32

all the characters that could be coming together

50:34

on screen for one new,

50:36

amazing movie that we really haven't had that feeling

50:39

since Avengers Endgame. So that's probably

50:41

the thing I'm the most excited about from

50:43

this trailer as far as things

50:45

to come. But other things that this movie

50:47

could contain. There are some little

50:49

glimpses and maybe rumors of the Hulk

50:52

being in this movie. I don't know what Hulk in particular

50:55

is going to be, but with them going through

50:57

the depths of the multiverse, I mean,

50:59

the easy answer would be Mark Ruffalo,

51:01

although he did come out recently saying that he is not

51:04

going to be a part of Captain America four.

51:06

I would really push for it being Edward

51:08

Norton's Hulk, who I feel got the raw

51:11

end of the deal in the MCU. I have

51:13

a deep love for that movie, even though

51:15

it is seen by so many fans as one

51:17

of the worst movies in the MCU. I

51:20

just love the character, the incredible Hulk,

51:22

and I just think he needs his really

51:25

good introduction on the big screen.

51:27

That for me, I would hope to lead to

51:29

another solo movie that they get the character

51:31

right. So there is some evidence in the trailer

51:34

that we could have a whole cameo. You

51:36

see some glimpses of thor Ragnarok, which

51:38

hlpe was a big part of that movie. But

51:41

I think the one scene in particular is

51:43

there's a moment where it is panning

51:45

to a Wolverine sitting at a table.

51:47

You get a real quick glimpse at him and he's

51:50

wearing this white tuxedo, which

51:52

that is a reference to Wolverine Issue

51:54

eight from nineteen eighty eight, where

51:57

it's Hulk and Wolverine teaming up together,

51:59

and the cover feed them both in white tuxedos

52:02

leaning on each other. So I think that would

52:04

be an awesome thing to incorporate.

52:06

And that is really what I love about this trailer

52:09

in this movie. Is it really

52:11

honing in on the source material,

52:13

which whenever that big article came out last

52:16

year from Variety stating how bad

52:18

of a shape that the MCU was in along

52:20

the lines of me saying that they needed to reduce

52:22

the amount of films, I said, they needed to

52:24

talk to some nerds and go back to

52:26

the source material. And that is what it looks

52:29

like they did in this trailer, just

52:31

with all of these references. I mean, putting a Secret

52:34

Wars issue in there is exactly

52:36

what I'm talking about. Putting references

52:38

to iconic comic book covers

52:40

in the trailer. That is what I

52:42

need more of. And then we

52:45

get another small glimpse of Wolverine

52:48

in the suit, which when that first image came

52:50

out, I was not a big fan of it because it

52:52

looks like a motocross suit. I

52:54

get they're trying to make him look similar to Deadpool

52:57

and it's supposed to be the most comic accurate

52:59

version Wolverine. I guess I wanted

53:01

to look a little bit more cartoonish and they're

53:04

going for a little bit more of a sense of realism.

53:06

And I was hoping to have a full suit

53:08

reveal in this trailer, but I

53:10

guess they're really trying to keep that a surprise,

53:13

which I'm okay with. You really only get

53:15

a glimpse of the back of it and action just

53:17

a little bit after Wolverine brandishes

53:20

his claws and then kind of scoops up Deadpool

53:22

there, but then it cuts to the title.

53:25

So there are a lot of things to be excited

53:27

about when it comes to this movie. I

53:29

cannot wait to see it on July twenty

53:31

sixth, mainly so all the Marvel

53:33

haters will have nothing else to say but

53:36

retreat back to their basements.

53:38

And that was this week's edition of

53:40

Movie by Tramer par.

53:42

And that is going to do it for another episode

53:45

here of the podcast. Before I go,

53:47

I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week.

53:49

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53:52

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54:05

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54:07

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54:11

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54:14

director and editor of Sometimes

54:16

I Think About Dying, which I reviewed on the podcast

54:18

last week. They both reposted

54:21

the real I made about going to see that movie

54:23

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54:25

shout out to Rachel Lambert and Ryan Kendrick

54:28

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54:30

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54:32

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54:34

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54:39

Hope you have a great rest of your week, and until

54:41

next time, go out and watch good movies

54:43

and I will talk to you later.