Brianne Banigan Eleanor Leary sat face-to-face with Judy Price, the Queen’s of children's television production at CBS with a pilot in her hand for The Sticklers, a show about a dysfunctional family trying to get by. Judy told her to play the tape and they sat in silence as the VHS played.

“She stood up from her desk, leaned in, and said, ‘I like this.” And then she went around the desk and said, ‘I want this.’,” says Brianne who had been sweating bullets while the show played. It was unheard of for Judy to green light projects right away, so work began on what would become Stickin’ Around.

Brianne joins us this episode to talk about how The Sticklers became Stickin’ Around, how her childhood informed its characters, and how in television production a “No” is only a “No” until it becomes a “Yes.”