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They were the fab five of eighties New
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Waves who made their mark with a unique
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blend of rock, funk and futuristic
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pop, and the superstardom they achieved
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was beyond their imaginations. Duran
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Duran became the British masters of
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style who seduced the world
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with glamour, groove and
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good looks. Their unique musical
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styles made them famous, but it was
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also tearing them apart. As
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the eighties came to a close, they
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were left for dead, but Duran Duran
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dug deep and scored their biggest
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hit. Now, over twenty years
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since Duran Durand's original episode
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of Behind the Music aired, they're reflecting
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on key moments of their lives, giving
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new insights on the past, and
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celebrating the present. This
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is Duran Duran, the Story Behind
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the Music. In
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the spring of Duran Duran
1:04
was finishing work on their fifteenth album,
1:06
Future Past. The record marks
1:09
the continued evolution and artistic
1:11
innovation of Simon Laban, John
1:13
Taylor, Roger Taylor, and Nick
1:16
Rhodes. There's plenty of scope in that the
1:18
men don't see. What's always
1:20
driven us to move forward is
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curiosity, intrigue, excitement
1:26
about what's next. What can we do?
1:28
How far can we push it? Why
1:30
can't we do that? Let's try. You
1:33
have to keep on moving. Food have stopped
1:35
at Rio. I don't think we'd have got very
1:37
far. Anybody that gets to do
1:39
what we do for this length of time needs
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to justify themselves. Roger,
1:44
Nick, myself and Simon we all
1:46
and still impress each other, you know.
1:48
We bring something new to it, so it's exciting.
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We really believe in
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what we're doing. We really believe in
1:55
the music we're making. We believe in Duranne
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Duran Duran
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Durand's artistic journey began in the
2:02
late seventies in Birmingham, Ingland. The
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images of the Beakles going around the world,
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you know, as a four or five year old kid,
2:10
were pretty indelible and
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thinking, I like the idea of doing that.
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You know, now, what do I have to do? John I
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met when I was about ten years old.
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We hit it off pretty much straightaway.
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We're both only children, were both Gemini's.
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We were both super creative. We
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were always interested in in art
2:30
and cinema. We had a keen interest
2:32
in photography. We got
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into all sorts of things together. But
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we also had shared love
2:40
of music, particular music.
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John and I came from a sort
2:44
of clam rock t Rex
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David Bowie, Roxy music, Sparks,
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and then we went through disco. Unlike
2:53
other people, we kind of like disco, especially
2:56
Sheep. We also loved
2:59
electronic music and punk
3:01
rock, the energy of punk
3:03
rock, the Sex Pistols, the Damned
3:06
Susie, and the band Shoes of Clash. We
3:09
had inspiration all
3:11
around us. By their late
3:13
teens, John and Nick were devoted scholars
3:16
of innovative sound and vision. We'd
3:19
ride home after these gigs and which say, what did
3:21
you like the projections? And that opening
3:23
song was cool? Right the way that they did that thing with
3:25
the with the synth, and what was that synth?
3:28
The two friends began to learn the craft
3:30
and devised an artistic mission to
3:32
create their own brand of cutting edge music
3:35
and take on the world. We wanted
3:37
to take rock music onto the dance
3:39
floor. We wanted the sound we made
3:42
to become a sound that everybody
3:44
liked. If John and I
3:47
want to make something work, if we
3:50
agree, it usually happens.
3:52
It's making your own opportunities and seizing
3:55
those opportunities. People
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don't get lucky. People make
4:00
bed luck. After a year
4:02
of playing with local musicians who couldn't
4:05
match their creative ambitions, John
4:07
and Nick recruited drummer Roger Taylor,
4:09
who was immediately struck by their intense
4:11
focus and shared sensibilities.
4:14
And when those who were just on the same page
4:16
from day one, they had this connection
4:19
between them, they were like
4:21
brothers. It was a huge moment in
4:23
my life to find these people that they
4:25
have the same influences, be
4:28
they kind of a dressed like me, and see
4:30
they were just totally committed
4:32
to what we wanted to do. Duran
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Duran became the house band at the rum Runner
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Club in Birmingham, where they befriended
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club owners Paul and Michael Barrow, who
4:41
started to manage the band for
4:44
a bunch of teenage kids like ourselves.
4:46
You know that they had. They were able to give us
4:48
old jobs in the club and they brought
4:50
me an amber and get
4:52
us somewhere to rehearse. John and Roger
4:55
used to collect glasses and wash up. Nick
4:57
was the DJ, Great DJ Nichols. We
5:00
had a goal and everybody did everything
5:02
they could day and nice in order to achieve it.
5:04
When Nick and John placed a wite air in the music
5:07
trade magazine Melody Maker. He
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caught the eye of guitarist Andy Taylor. You
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know, they had this whole scene the rehearsal
5:14
room off this club, officers above
5:16
the managers and the club. I thought, well, this is all right.
5:19
I thought were going to tell at the bar, you know, oh
5:21
yeah yeah. And
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one of the barmaids at the run and I said, oh,
5:26
you should get my boyfriend to come down.
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And Simon walked into the kitchen one day
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and that was it. I found the rum
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runn up down a little alleyway, and
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I said, is this where I will find
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Duran? Duran. As soon as I saw
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Simon, I thought, yeah, he's got that swagger,
5:43
he's got the confidence, he's got the
5:45
cockiness that it takes to be a
5:47
singer. I was in drama students
5:50
since I was five years old, and
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I guess I was used to being on
5:55
stage, and when I walked down
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that alleyway, I
5:59
was on age. Roger, John,
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Andy and Nick were immediately struck
6:04
by Simon's charisma. They just talked
6:06
he had the voice to match. I hope,
6:08
please please just let him be able
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to sing as long as he can sing in tune.
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We can, we can get around it. I'm sure.
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Then we went into this little triangular
6:17
room called the tri Tech Room
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and they started playing their music
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and Simon was like, oh, hang on a second, you
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know, and he had this I mean, this is mythology
6:28
and the Duran Duran story had this book
6:30
with lyrics in it, which we were like, oh.
6:34
Then I said, I think, I think I can.
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I've got something that would work with that. As
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soon as he started to sing, he was just
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the right tonality. I
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knew as soon as he opened
6:46
his mouth he was going to work. We
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have these glances around the room so
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as to say this is this is
6:53
the guy, We've got it. He just felt
6:55
right. He was one of us. The
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new band Meats began writing songs
7:00
together and gigging around in where
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they're heart edge dance grooves quickly grabbed
7:05
the British music scene. Roger
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and John wanted to be in cheap you
7:10
know. And then Andy comes to Newcastle.
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It's like a tougher place. He's got a bit more
7:14
of this like heavy rock background. Then
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Nick just built this sonic architecture
7:19
out of all these sins time and just
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brings the like already weird abstract
7:24
lyrics, so like they were at this vaults
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on. We had a chemistry between
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us and when we started
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playing, something happened. The fuse
7:33
caused the electricity to fire
7:37
all around the room. We all
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appreciated that together we were capable
7:41
of achieving something great, Like
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I may be really kind of different to this guy,
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but it's I get really close to him, maybe we can really
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do something. In nineteen eighty, the
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five members of Duran Durant each
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brought their different musical backgrounds to
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form a collective vision, and
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through their songs, John, Nick,
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Andy, Roger and Simon became
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inseparable. It was really the music
8:04
that made the personalities. Joel
8:07
and we went everywhere together and
8:09
did everything together. We
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were very very close. Duran
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Duran carefully designed and innovative
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aesthetic that went way beyond music,
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meticulously building their image through
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photography, art, hairstyle,
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and fashion. I definitely loved
8:25
the visual of the band, and I went to
8:27
get my hair cut when I was eleven,
8:30
and I remember taking this picture
8:32
like folded up from like some fan magazine
8:35
John Taylor like in my back pocket, and I literally
8:37
like me to my back pocket, like so this
8:40
please and I remember leaving
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and my mom was like, what's
8:44
wrong with you? Like I wasn't crying, but I was
8:46
like really upset, and I was like, he
8:49
cut my hair like Nick Rhodes, and I showed him
8:51
John Taylor by
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Duran. Duran became the leaders of the
9:07
new Romantic music revolution with
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a release of their self titled debut album.
9:12
They took full advantage of an exciting new
9:14
record marketing tool, the music
9:17
video. It became
9:19
a very very important way
9:22
that we could manifest ourselves all
9:24
over the world. Was
9:26
done because our managers thought it would get us
9:28
a lot of attention. They
9:31
were right about that. It was an eye opener.
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Their debut reached number three on the UK Album's
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chart. After a ten month tour,
9:38
they worked quickly to record a follow up. One
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Saturday morning, Simon and Nick dragged
9:43
themselves into the studio after a
9:45
night of heavy drinking that morning.
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I don't know why I agreed to go into
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the studio on a Saturday. I hadn't
9:52
shocking hangover. I didn't really want to go
9:54
into the studio tool, but I had
9:57
a relatively new synthesizer at that
9:59
time, and I wanted to play
10:01
around with it. Simon came in, heard
10:04
it and said, wait a minute,
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Okay, do that again, and suddenly
10:09
we had something going. The rest
10:11
of the band came in and they just
10:13
loved it, and he thought, I think
10:15
probably one of the greatest rock riffs of
10:17
the eighties. Down there
10:20
was something about it that just sounded
10:22
right. In just under
10:24
two hours, Duran Duran had created
10:27
Hungry Like the Wolf. The
10:29
band was creatively firing on all
10:31
cylinders, and as the sessions progressed
10:34
for their second album, Rio, Duran Duran
10:36
knew they were making a masterpiece. I
10:39
don't recall there being any self
10:41
doubt with that record. It was just everything
10:43
flowed. When Rio was released in
10:45
May two, Duran Durand
10:48
formulated a plan for a new music
10:50
video. We had this
10:52
idea to make a video
10:54
that was kind of based on Raiders
10:57
of the Lost Arc, hence
10:59
the hat. You know, it was a quest
11:01
and it wouldn't have worked if as singer
11:04
hadn't have had some experience in
11:07
acting. Duran Durand premiered
11:09
Hungry Like the Wolf on MTV in February
11:12
of three, while the fledgling
11:14
network was still working to find a wider
11:16
audience. It was interesting because MTV
11:19
was only in about three or four cities
11:21
at that time, and we could
11:23
see that the people that were seeing MTV,
11:26
there was a spike in our radio play.
11:29
It was going up because people were calling
11:31
into the radio station saying, I
11:34
want my Duran Duran. MTV
11:36
most definitely had an effect.
11:39
As MTV's viewership grew, so
11:42
did Duran Durant's fan base. The
11:44
band arrived in America, where the media
11:46
hyped them as the New Beatles and dubbed
11:49
them the Fab Five. They
11:51
soon found it wasn't safe to travel the streets
11:54
alone during teenage fans
11:56
pursued them everywhere. We're really
11:58
enjoying the success because this is a bunch
12:00
of guys that have gone into the music business
12:03
for the affirmation and we wanted people
12:05
to like us. The success that we had
12:07
out of the gate and the kind of success
12:10
it was, I mean, we didn't see it coming.
12:12
We get on stage and we
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play our songs, which a lot of them weren'd
12:17
sexual, and we'd
12:19
have this wave of sexual energy
12:22
sort of come towards us. For us, the
12:24
world had changed and we were
12:27
these icons. Suddenly
12:30
we were rock stars. It
12:33
was sort of thrilling we'd seen the four
12:35
Teacher of the Beatles and the Doors and the
12:37
Rolling Stones, and nobody had expected
12:39
to see that again. And somehow
12:42
it was us. With our conquest
12:44
of America, Duran Durand became international
12:47
cover boys. They were besieged
12:49
by Vans seeking the ultimate
12:51
autograph. It was a babe fest
12:53
backstage for all the security.
12:56
Somehow the girls would get through, and
12:59
it didn't hurt that they all the silpermodel
13:01
type. I definitely felt a rivalry
13:03
with John for attention, for
13:06
female attention, and John won
13:09
that battle completely and utterly.
13:11
He won it. I mean, there was a competitiveness
13:13
between the band. Almost
13:16
couldn't help it. You know. When they
13:18
started doing like individual T
13:20
shirts and individual posters sets,
13:22
and somebody had mentioned how many. I
13:25
saw how many, and he sold
13:28
and I think that they were the seeds of descent.
13:31
We all started to get girlfriends. That
13:34
changes the dynamic completely, because
13:37
you're not just a gang of five
13:39
young guys running around doing stuff
13:41
together. You get separated
13:43
out suddenly you want the
13:45
partners will say I don't know, I don't
13:47
think you should be doing that, or why isn't
13:50
there more of you in that video? When
13:52
we started there was a bunch of guys that would
13:54
hang out and spend seven
13:56
together. But I think as the pressure
13:59
built up, everybody kind of retreated a
14:01
little bit. It just begins to fragment.
14:04
As with anything you build, the cracks
14:06
start to show. In
14:10
three. Despite an emerging divide within
14:12
Duran Durant, excitement continued
14:14
to follow the band on tour as their
14:16
concerts became sold out teenage screamfests.
14:21
With that much fun going on at the shows,
14:23
where everybody people
14:26
having that much fun, you couldn't just unplug
14:29
everything. We're having fun. We are
14:31
definitely having fun. I
14:34
mean I was. I noticed
14:36
that Roger wasn't feeling
14:38
the same way about it as I was.
14:41
He didn't really like that kind of attention
14:44
and he didn't feel safe. Roger
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Taylor's growing discomfort with the hysteria
14:49
that stopped Ran Duran came to a
14:51
head One night in Manchester, England. He
14:54
played a show and the
14:56
Fister was kind of on its own block and
14:58
the crowd had around it the
15:01
entire block, and we couldn't get out,
15:05
and the noise around her, you
15:07
could just hear these people screaming
15:09
and shouting and singing and
15:12
chanting It was loud, and
15:14
it was intense. You couldn't you could not escape
15:17
from it. And I looked at Roger
15:19
and then he had his look on his face was was
15:22
like and I said to me, said the U cases. He
15:25
said, this is how are we going to get out of here?
15:27
How are we going to get out of here? A
15:29
little bit of fear crept in because it
15:32
was going somewhere that
15:34
you couldn't have foreseen. I
15:36
didn't know we were going to be like the next Beatles,
15:39
but suddenly I felt my life kind
15:41
of closing in a bit. Roger
15:44
stuck it out at the time, but it was clear
15:46
the band's success was turning into something
15:48
they had never anticipated. We were
15:50
celebrating really what would achieved, and
15:52
no one was at stop us. And
15:55
sometimes it would get where I
15:57
happened while each member
16:00
Duran Duran dealt with fame in the wrong
16:02
way. For John Taylor, the party
16:04
was getting out of control. My
16:06
drugged choice was coke. I was
16:08
able to be this up guy, you
16:10
know, twenty four hours a day, especially
16:14
after midnight. It was really useful. Then.
16:17
You know, drugs and no ALCOHOLO about
16:19
numbing emotions and feelings, you
16:22
know, I mean, I think there was just so many
16:24
feelings going on the entire
16:27
experience of band's career. It
16:29
was just like two much. I was just waking
16:31
up every morning thinking, now if I got what I need to
16:33
get myself through the day. The
16:36
drugs and alcohol were kind of running me, and
16:38
it wasn't about do I want
16:40
to, It was like I have
16:43
to. Despite the toll their
16:45
success was taking on the band, Duran,
16:48
Duran retreated to the south of France to
16:50
write their highly demanded follow up, Seven
16:53
and the Ragged Tiger. Recording
16:55
sessions lasted a ruling six months,
16:57
and unlike their previous albums that have had,
17:00
a band was no longer seeing eye to eye
17:02
artistically. The third
17:04
album was Crime, and
17:07
it's amazing that any of us were still speaking to
17:09
each other by this time we finished that album. You
17:11
know, Andy would want to bring it in this direction,
17:14
nich would maybe want to bring it over to that
17:16
direction. And he's also
17:18
got a very forceful character
17:21
in a way. He's like me like that, and
17:23
that when he decides he wants to do something, that's
17:26
what he wants to do. They were never particularly
17:28
suited to each other. If they weren't see a band
17:30
together they would have never been friends.
17:33
As we started getting further and further
17:35
and further apart, I think the elastic
17:38
broke. The band was forced
17:40
to keep it together to support the release
17:42
of Seven and the Ragged Tiger in four,
17:45
but by the end of the tour and he was
17:47
on the verge of quitting Duran Duran and
17:50
he was like, I'm not doing this again. This
17:53
isn't working for me, and you
17:55
know, I didn't want to lose him. In late
17:57
eighty four, John and Andy decided to form
18:00
The Power Station, a side project with
18:02
hard hitting, guitar driven rock. It
18:05
was a clear and intentional departure
18:07
from Duran Durant. It's like, come on,
18:09
let's just go and do something where you can
18:11
play as loudly as you like. There could be lots
18:13
of room for solos. They can be as long as you want
18:15
them to be. One of Andy's
18:18
driving forces to
18:20
make The Power Stations was to
18:22
get away from Nick. The
18:25
album was a hit, and John
18:27
and Andy started to realize they might be able
18:29
to have careers beyond the Fab Five.
18:32
You know, it started to seem like maybe
18:34
it's this is something more than a
18:37
one off for Simon, Nick and
18:39
Roger. It was clear that the musical differences
18:42
that once brought Duran Duran together, we're
18:44
now tearing them apart. Musically,
18:46
we were always pulling in two different directions,
18:49
and the tension between what I
18:51
do and what Andy was doing was
18:54
one of the great things about the dynamic
18:56
in early Duran Duran records. When
19:00
Andy decided he wanted to go a bit further
19:02
and a bit more rock, that's
19:05
that's just too much for me. I have
19:07
no interest in that. Nick and
19:09
I were interested in something
19:12
different. We wanted to be more
19:14
experimental. In the
19:16
summer of eight five, Simon, Nick and Roger
19:19
formed Arcadia and recorded an album
19:21
with several high profile guest stars.
19:24
An amazing time we had, incredible
19:27
It was a good line up in a Dave Gilmore
19:30
sting Grace Jones. I
19:32
mean, it was an amazing line
19:34
up. All the groove and the guitar
19:37
and the heaviness seemed to go to power Station
19:39
and then all the kind of synth and clever,
19:42
weird, alternative witness went to Arcadia.
19:45
It kind of like took something that you really loved
19:48
and like, Okay, we're gonna take half of it here and take half
19:50
of it here, so it sounded a bit like that. On
19:52
opposite ends of the creative spectrum. Arcadia
19:55
and power Station created a schism
19:57
within Duran Durant. Of course you
19:59
get competition coming into playing. I
20:02
didn't want power Station to be any more successful.
20:04
You know, we've got to make a better album than they're
20:07
making. John Andy
20:09
were doing this project here, Simon
20:11
that we're doing this project here, and
20:13
I was putting one for in each project, and
20:16
these kind of two ships were sailing apart from
20:18
each other, and I was kind of in the middle
20:20
of it, you know, trying to hang onto both, thinking
20:22
are we going to like each other when we get back
20:24
together? After six months apart,
20:27
the band honored a commitment to shoot the music
20:29
video for the new James Bond theme of
20:32
You to a Kill in a true case
20:34
of our Imitating life. As the tensions
20:36
amongst the band were practically lethal.
20:39
I remember it as being pretty toxic. There
20:41
was an error resentment. We weren't get him
20:44
along at all, and he locked himself
20:46
in his trailer. He wouldn't come out
20:48
to do his filming. We're not
20:51
really playing well
20:53
with each other. I think you can
20:56
see when Andy is trying to actually
20:59
kill me during the video.
21:03
Yeah, but that that was about as close as you'd
21:05
get to h to reality. I
21:08
hate that video and I don't think anybody
21:10
looks good in it. And then we
21:12
just went our separate ways and didn't come together
21:15
again until Philadelphia. In the Live AI in
21:17
July, Duran Duran
21:20
was given an offer they couldn't refuse when
21:22
their friend Bob Geldoff organized
21:24
Live Aid, a global fundraising
21:26
event for African famine relief that
21:29
featured performances from the biggest names
21:31
and music. Yes, they were going
21:33
down, but what are you going to do? Call
21:36
out of the Live AIG show because it's
21:38
not quite right now. You've just got
21:40
to get on with it. You've got to pull up
21:42
a big gig here. You're gonna go and play
21:44
in front of but I don't know how
21:47
many billion people. So you have the pressure
21:50
doing the biggest show that's ever been
21:52
put on the up before
21:55
Duran Duran would take the stage that evening
21:58
John and Andy and listed on performing with
22:01
power Station. The fact that John
22:03
and Andy had already been on stage
22:06
with power Station said
22:09
something about the whole day. A few
22:11
hours after power Station left the stage,
22:14
Duran Duran was about to play their first
22:16
show in nearly a year in
22:18
front of the entire world. I
22:21
was totally committed. I
22:23
think Nick was totally committed as well.
22:25
I think Roger was feeling very anxious,
22:28
and I think John and Andy
22:31
were thinking, I'm
22:33
not sure I like this as much as being
22:35
on stage with power Station. Live
22:38
Aid was a bit of a disaster.
22:41
And when we got on stage, we've got no monitors.
22:43
I couldn't even hear myself and it's
22:45
quite terrifying. I was having to sort of turn around
22:48
and look at Roger thinking, Okay, this has
22:50
been broadcast to billions of people,
22:52
I cannot actually hear what I'm
22:54
playing, and them we're just being more
22:57
impressed with Led Zeppelinton. Anything
23:00
we were doing. We were woefully under
23:02
rehearsed. Really, when I watch
23:04
it, I can feel that it's, uh, you
23:06
know, we're not having a good time. It was
23:09
just trying to hang on to
23:11
a very thin piece of string. We'd
23:14
really played all our chips, put
23:16
them all on the table. At that point, it was
23:18
the end of a relationship. After
23:20
Duran Durant's difficult performance at
23:22
Live AID, John and Andy Taylor returned
23:25
to touring with power station in Roger
23:27
decided he was ready to take himself out
23:30
of the limelight. It was a very
23:32
odd time for us, because we
23:34
thought we were going to have a five piece
23:37
band back together again. But
23:39
Roger had actually had
23:42
enough of the music business and
23:45
he didn't want to come back. I think he
23:47
was just exhausted, quite honestly, There's
23:49
only so much attention and so
23:51
many glaring lights that some people
23:53
can take, you know, you do take on a
23:56
besieged mentality. Roger
23:58
Taylor left the band and withdrew
24:00
from public life. He didn't want to have anything
24:03
to do with it anymore. I don't think
24:05
a lot of people really understood while I
24:07
was going through at the time, and I think people
24:09
tended to, you
24:11
know, label it with different things. And I
24:13
don't think I was emotionally prepared
24:17
for the height of fame that we achieved.
24:19
I didn't have the tools to deal with that.
24:22
It sounds like a cliche, but it was like, I need
24:25
to find the real me. Who am I
24:28
when I look back at myself in those early
24:30
days and who is that? And
24:32
when I left, I just kind of found myself.
24:35
Losing Roger was a stunning blow to the band.
24:38
It was time for Duran Duran to regroup,
24:41
but Andy Taylor ignored requests to return
24:44
to the fall. He blows your
24:46
confidence a little bit when people leave. When
24:49
Roger and Andy left, I think that the
24:51
band kind of lost a little bit of his innocence. Then
24:53
it's never it was never going to be the same. But
24:56
by six John Taylor
24:58
was ready to rejoin Simon and Dick. They
25:00
set aside their creative differences to
25:03
try and keep Duran Duran alive.
25:05
The three of us had so bonded
25:08
we just felt we were on the right path. We
25:11
clung on to each other and to
25:13
the idea of Duran Duran. We learned
25:16
very much to make
25:18
our egos subservient
25:21
to the band. Of course, it felt
25:24
very different not having two members
25:26
there that we spent every day with the five
25:28
years, But at the same time,
25:31
it was a new adventure and
25:34
in the spirit of Duran Duran, we embrace
25:37
change. The trio
25:39
entered the studio to record Duran Durand's
25:42
fifth album, Notorious, with
25:44
one of their biggest influences as producer,
25:47
sikes Nil Rogers. When
25:49
I showed up to do the album Notorious
25:51
and there was no Andy and there was
25:53
no Roger. I wasn't quite sure
25:56
they would feel like I was working with Durant. But
25:58
the thing is is that spirit
26:00
of Durand is sort of bigger than
26:03
the individual players, and it felt
26:05
really like Duran. We've never been
26:07
as funky. There's Notorious before
26:10
all since, which is Nile's
26:13
got the funk. The more you heard what you
26:15
were doing, the more you have belief in it.
26:18
Na Rogers is the person who
26:20
rescued Duran Duran. It
26:22
was this new evolution. It
26:25
sounded like they've been holed up in some very
26:27
expensive New York recording studio.
26:30
Like some of those records in that Erra just sound
26:32
like cocaine and money, and I
26:34
feel like that's one of them. When
26:36
Notorious was released in November of eighty
26:38
six, it reached number twelve on the U S
26:41
Album charts. But as Duran
26:43
Duran closed out the eighties and their
26:45
follow up albums Big Thing and
26:47
Liberty failed to make a mark. As
26:50
they entered a new decade, Duran Duran
26:53
were deemed a relic of the past. The
26:56
landscape had changed. We've
26:58
been pretty successful through the eight and I
27:00
think a lot of people I thought
27:03
we were synonymous with that period, and when
27:05
they locked the door behind
27:07
the eighties, some
27:10
people were determined that we were going to be on
27:12
the other side of the door, and they were
27:14
taking the key with them, And that's
27:16
kind of when you realize that that moment
27:19
had passed. We weren't anymore.
27:22
We were like, it's over there, damn
27:24
you know. Can we Maybe if we paddle faster we
27:26
can catch it up, But it's hard
27:29
in the band went to
27:31
work on their seventh album, writing with guitarist
27:34
Warren Coucarulo, who broughtened
27:36
their sound. As the
27:38
sessions progressed, one track emerged
27:40
as particularly promising, and
27:43
Simon Leban channeled his emotions
27:45
about a recent tragedy into the lyrics.
27:49
I wrote about the death
27:51
of a very very dear
27:54
friend of mine who died
27:56
tragically, very very very young, and
27:59
when he died, I dedicated
28:02
a part of myself to him. I
28:04
was finding it very difficult to
28:07
let go of the sadness and to move
28:09
into the next chapter of my life,
28:13
and I had to free
28:15
myself. I wanted
28:17
to say goodbye, and
28:20
that's why I said, but I won't
28:22
cry for yesterday. There's an
28:24
ordinary world that I want to live in
28:27
now and I will, I
28:29
will carry on and I will survive.
28:33
And that really was my way of
28:36
burying my friend instead
28:38
of trying to keep him alive
28:41
in my own heart, but with sadness
28:44
and loss. Simon's
28:46
tribute to his late friend connected to millions
28:49
across the globe. Released
28:51
as a single in December of ninety two, Ordinary
28:54
World became the biggest hit of Duran
28:56
Durand's career. To have
28:58
your biggest hit, what thirteen
29:01
years after your first hit or your breakthrough
29:03
like that just doesn't happen in music
29:05
like that means that you have a true place in people's
29:08
hearts and you have a truly special song.
29:10
Ordinary World propelled the wedding album
29:13
to the top ten. Seemingly
29:16
out of nowhere. Duran Duran
29:18
had once again returned to the mainstream.
29:22
We're back and we're in the nineties,
29:26
and that for me was one of the most significant
29:28
moments in that Korea. The
29:38
band continued to record and tour over
29:40
the next four years, but in
29:44
the band suffered an unexpected blow.
29:47
John Taylor decided to leave Duran
29:49
Duran. It was hard
29:52
because you know, I've
29:55
been a member of this band, my entire adult
29:58
life since I was seven. It
30:01
was almost like, for once in my life, I had to
30:03
invest in my personal life. It
30:05
wasn't easy, but it
30:08
was necessary. John
30:10
moved to Los Angeles, got married, and
30:12
checked into a rehab facility to finally
30:14
get his substance abuse issues in order.
30:17
Getting sober was a big one for me, maybe
30:20
the biggest. You know, it's
30:22
an incredible rebirth. I mean, it was
30:25
good to know, at least in the
30:27
way that I understood my recovery, that that
30:29
it wasn't my fault, you know, that I had
30:31
like a faulty, faulty brain when it came
30:34
to you know, alcohol and drugs,
30:36
that it wasn't just that I was making bad choices
30:38
or that I was lacking in discipline. With
30:40
John tending to his personal life, Aldie,
30:43
Simon, and Nick remained from the original
30:45
Fab five. John
30:47
leaving was a monumental
30:50
blow. I felt
30:52
deserted when John
30:54
left the group. For the next three years,
30:57
they carried on recording and touring, but
31:00
was becoming a parrot. That inspiration
31:02
was fading. I really questioned
31:05
whether I wanted to carry on At that point. To
31:08
me, it didn't feel like Duran Duran
31:10
anymore. I think there was
31:12
a couple of options. One was to just stop
31:15
or look at going all the way back to the beginning again
31:18
and putting the original lineup together. I
31:21
called up John, Nick, and Simon
31:23
and I had lunch. He was
31:25
ready, really excited, and he said, right,
31:28
let's call Roger's home here by
31:30
the pool with Simon and Nick would think about
31:32
a game the original band together again. At
31:35
that point I kind of nearly fell through the floor.
31:38
So I think, you know what, I'm going to really embrace this, so
31:41
I'll call him back there. I said, yeah, okay, I'm in. So
31:44
then there was only Andy and it was a case
31:46
of finding it. Andy
31:48
had moved to the Spanish island of Abisa.
31:51
After a phone call with Roger, he was
31:54
on board. The five
31:56
original members of Duran Duran got
31:58
together in a studio and for ads to see
32:00
if they could recapture the old magic.
32:03
Everybody had the same dynamic. Andy
32:06
and I still didn't really get on. These
32:08
five people not spend any
32:11
time together in a room. But
32:13
what was it eighteen years or something. We
32:16
had some real personality issues. How
32:18
do we relate artistically? Can
32:21
we still beat Duran Duran? It
32:23
was really hard. Despite
32:26
the clashing in the studio, the band managed
32:29
to write new material for a reunion album,
32:32
but when they shopped their songs to record labels,
32:35
to their surprise, there was little
32:37
interest. I think we thought
32:39
that just by getting together will take a polaroid
32:42
and then it'll be a blank check, and
32:44
it wasn't. The industry
32:47
was like, WHOA which an army? What's
32:49
the interest level? The
32:51
band recruited former Aerosmith manager
32:53
Wendy Leaster to help right the ship.
32:56
Her idea get the boys out
32:59
of the studio and back on stage.
33:02
I felt that we needed to create a demand.
33:04
Rather than going knocking on doors. I wanted
33:07
people knocking on their door. So we put
33:09
shows on se We said let's do something, and sold
33:12
out in some crazy amount of time, I mean
33:14
so much quicker than we had even thought
33:16
of. On July seven,
33:19
two thousand three, Duran Duran
33:21
was set to play their first show as the Fab
33:23
five in eighteen years. Banned
33:26
tensions at an all time high. I'll
33:29
remember the night before the first show, I thought
33:32
I'm going to kill somebody. The intra
33:36
personal differences
33:39
were so you know, on
33:41
fire, and I mean I'm sure I was making people
33:43
crazy as well. In my
33:46
back of my head, I just thought we'd just got
33:48
to get to the stage. We
33:51
could hear the crowd, the anticipation
33:53
out there. It was terrifying.
33:57
It was one of those moments where you had to walk
34:00
through her, to walk through the beer. The
34:02
weight of it. It
34:05
was a big deal. A
34:08
crowd went absolutely bananas.
34:12
Once we're in front of the audience, it becomes
34:14
so obvious that it's so much
34:17
bigger than we are. It's
34:19
an entirely different calculation. It's like it's
34:22
me and then it's us, and then
34:25
we managed to find
34:27
our way back to the chemistry
34:30
that we had. It just
34:32
sent chills down the spine, you know, that moment
34:34
of of realizing
34:37
that actually this is going to work and the world
34:39
is going to love during Duran again,
34:42
we knew that there were areas that we
34:44
would disagree, but I think we are all
34:46
prepared to put those aside
34:50
in order to create
34:52
something special. As Duran
34:54
Duran, Simon, John
34:57
Nick, Roger, and Eddie continue
34:59
touring of the next two years, playing
35:01
some of their biggest shows ever. Critics
35:04
began to praise the return. As they released
35:06
their comeback album, Astronauts
35:09
but the reunion would be short lived for
35:11
Andy Taylor, who once again bowed
35:13
out in two thousand five. Andy
35:16
had been becoming more difficult
35:18
to work with. Everybody in the band
35:20
felt that we weren't all going in the same
35:22
direction. That was clear. I can't
35:25
say I missed Andy terribly. I
35:27
know how creative he is and I would never ever
35:30
take that away from him, but
35:33
personality wise, and he never
35:35
really fit in with the rest of us. To
35:38
fill the space of their departing guitarist
35:40
Duran, Duran embraced the idea of the
35:42
band as a collective with
35:45
a wide range of producers and collaborators
35:48
to add fresh elements to their magical sound.
35:51
It's come to be, you know, the empty
35:53
chair, you know, which is like the X
35:55
factor. So it's actually a way of
35:57
injecting energy and creativity
36:00
into the situation. We
36:03
have found that it's good to have another
36:06
person in the room. Having
36:08
different people in different energy changes
36:12
the way you work. I
36:14
think it's really made the
36:17
four of us really kind of open
36:19
our minds and our imaginations,
36:23
and it's broadened our perspectives
36:26
in Duran Duran
36:29
expanded their artistic scope once
36:31
again as they wrapped up work
36:33
on their fifteen album Future
36:35
Past, working with producers
36:38
Errol Alkin and Georgio Moroder
36:40
while collaborating with Blur guitarist
36:42
Graham Coxon and Mark Ronson.
36:45
Their influence on me is basically indelible.
36:48
Because they were my first favorite
36:50
band. I get to have this little, very
36:53
personal relationship with everybody.
36:55
It's really exciting to know that you
36:57
can still do it, you
37:00
know, after all this time. As soon as you
37:02
start hearing that sound coming back, and
37:04
it's a real moment. You never tire of
37:07
that moment when you hear coming back through the speakers.
37:10
We're making an album that we're all
37:12
very excited about. It's cutting
37:15
edge in some aspects, but it still
37:17
sounds like Duran Duran, and that puts
37:19
us all in a very good
37:22
frame of mind. I was an only
37:24
child. I'm magiced into the world brothers,
37:27
and I have brothers. We were all kind
37:29
of equal shareholders in the dream.
37:32
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