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They were Britain's fastest selling exports
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since the Beatles. In the
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Spice Girls built an instantaneous
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empire with infectious tunes and
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outrageous antics. With
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their larger than life personalities, the
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irreverent girl power gang charmed
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their way into international stardom
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and from day one they sparked
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tabloid chaos. Despite
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being one of the hottest groups in the world, they
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would pay the price in personal anguish
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and public humiliation. Now
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take a look at the hidden history of these
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iconic pop stars. It's
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time for a gaudy jaunt with five
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brassy Brits. The Spice
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Girls the story behind
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the music. In
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just two years after the release of their first
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single, the Spice Girls were the hottest act
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in the music business. They'd
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come from nowhere to sell over twenty million
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albums and were idolized by five
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continents of fans. No
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and it's seen anything like it before really
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since pretty much that the Beatles,
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really and especially there were a girl band
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at this kind of level. Everything
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was obsessed with Spice Girls that they were
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really the highest they could be. People
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were hysterical for these girls. There was total
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adoration and you know, frenzy
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The Spice Girls were built on saucy looks
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and sassy lyrics, and together
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they projected a feisty image of fiercely
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independent feminism. I really felt
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like we were on a mission and this is what
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girls to join in and it was honest
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and I'm proud of being a past of that. What
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was new about the Spice Girls is they
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were the first girl group that wasn't boy
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crazy, and that was something completely new. But
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the amazing popularity of their message
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of empowerment soon had the Spice Girls
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being victimized by a hungry media
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mab At the
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height of the mania, their private lives were
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turned into very public circus acts.
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There were so many rumors going around when
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the Spice Girls were at the height of their fame,
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whether Posh was really harsh, whether Jerry
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had a boob job that day. Wouldn't go piles without
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them being in any newspaper, They're on TV
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all the time. They literally just had
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to blow their noses and they would end up on
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the front pages. Beset
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by a ravenous press and rampaging
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egos, was only a matter of time
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before the Spice Girls folded. In
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just four short years, they emerged from oblivion,
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became a phenomenon and abruptly
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imploded. You
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put five girls together who have come from
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nowhere to the biggest girl band in
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the world, and you're gonna get problems. Life
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as a glow Will superstar once seemed
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like an impossible dream for Jerry Halliwell
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born in August of seventy two. She
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was raised in a dingy neighborhood in the
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town of Watford, England. My
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family were very, very poor, so I used
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to tell awful lies to
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my friends to try and make myself
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feel more interesting. I had to say I
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was born on a plane. I'd say I had
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sheep in my back garden, but really
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the reality was the wallpaper was falling
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down and we had no money. The
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daughter of a Spanish mother and an English
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father, Jerry thirsted for the spotlight
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even as a young child, but it
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would be some time before she was out on her
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own. My father took me
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to a talent agency when I was about six years old,
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and he didn't ask my mother's permission, and
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I got home all really excited and
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my mother just I don't want you to
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be the next to the gallant and end up killing
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yourself. You're not allowed to do anything to your
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sixteen. By the time I was sixteen years
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old, I was gagging to get out the door.
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As it turned out, all of the Spice girls
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were bitten by the show Bisberg early in life.
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The future Sporty Spice Melanie Chisholm,
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grew up in a broken home in Liverpool, England,
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and for her music was a welcome escape.
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From the very beginning. I was always a
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lover of music. I started listening
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to a very young Gage Too on my mom's records,
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Lots of Motown Stevie one day and
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I did just have dreams about being up there and being
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in front of a band. By
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the summer of ninety three, Melanie and Jerry
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had made their way to London, where
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they subsisted on the occasional our job
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as they tried to find their way to fame. I
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was auditioning for different things. Must
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have been about a year, you know,
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and nothing had happened. From
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counted, I'd moved every six months or
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sixteen different addresses of something like that.
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It's ridiculous amount. I've lived
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in bedsits and squats.
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I've been homeless. I've slept in backs of
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cars, and I was too proud to
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go to my family as they all got
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on really suffering. Here in
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March, the Girls saw
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an ad four street wise and ambitious
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young females in a cut rate show
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biz paper called The Stage. It
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was a long shot, but when Melanie needed
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to take I needed to get a job. You
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know, things are really really tough, and I
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said to my mate, that's it, That's
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what I'm going to do, and I
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did. Melanie
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auditioned immediately for the new Girl Group, which
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was the brainchild of first time music manager
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Chris Herbert, his father Bob, and
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Chick Murphy, a wealthy London businessman.
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I did a very poor rendition if I'm so excited
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by the point of sisters. So
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it's a good song though, and I was excited. Melsa
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undoubtedly was the best singer.
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She was very girl next door,
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bit tomboyish, but I can
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and I saw her as the vocal talent at that
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time. Next up
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was Jerry halliware. Jerry
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had already sought fame as a Turkish talk
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show host, a nude model and
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an exotic dancer. To her,
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the Girl Group was perhaps a final shot
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at stardom and she was determined to make
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an impression. I'll never
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forget the day I met Jerry. I just thought she was
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crazy. She came in and
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she had a big, punky boobs and
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she had a hair up in little She's
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come in and she was telling she was a dog and going. So
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I was like, what is she? I'm
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a little bit dizzy, little
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trying come into two groups,
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and I knew I was putting the reject group.
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I could tell. And we had to put a
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dark routeam together and we were
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just a shambles. Undeterred
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by the group performance, Jerry quickly returned
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for a solo audition and I think
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I blacked it a little bit and just a bit
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loud and um
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just tend this thing where I carry
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and she literally walked in the room and just
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completely filled the room, you know, boulders
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brass. And then we were like, wow, it doesn't
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matter if she can't sing. In
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addition to the fame Hungry Halliwell and Melanie
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Chisholm, the group was rounded out by
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two teenagers named Melanie Brown and
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Victoria Adams In sixteen
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year old Emma Bunt so nervous
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and I thought, if they don't like me, but
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luckily we've got on really well, and they
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liked me and then checked at me on using
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the working name Touch. The girls
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began rehearsing together immediately, but
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from the auditions onward it was clear
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that the group was less about skill and
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more about attitude. If
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those were the best and you look at the audition tape, she
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kind of really wondered what the others must have been
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like. The Spice Girls got the
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gig, but there was nothing really extraordinary
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about them. None of them were great singers, none
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of them were real lookers, and none of them could really
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particularly dance. The whole idea where
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these girls were just like you, we want
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looking for the best singers in the world, you know,
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just checking whether absolute time death or
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not. I'm really also seeing how they interacted
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with each other, and it was little more than
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that really. In the
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spring of the girls
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all moved into a house in the suburbs of London
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to polish the ract. If
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you would have believed that within three years
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There's would be one of the most popular groups
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in music history. Next,
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the Spice Girls forsake their founder.
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When behind the music continues in
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the spring of five, ambitious
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British girls moved in together into a ramshackle
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house in the London suburbs, calling
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themselves the Spice Girls. They wanted to achieve
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global fame as a singing group. First
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they had to build a sisterhood. Dante
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was to get them all living together because
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we thought it would really accelerate that whole
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bonding process.
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Some of the girls were barely old enough to be on
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their own and the house they shared
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was in shambles within days. Open
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the fridge and the cannabate things in there
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and that's about it. It was just like a complete
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free for all. The
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worst thing about living in the house of bad Pill
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is I always have to clean the tiglet A
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tired don't know how to clean toilet because
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their moms do all that for them and lega of
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For almost a year, the girls lived and rehearsed
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together with little money if you were guarantees,
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and no contracts whatsoever. The
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project's financial backer, Chick Murphy, insisted
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that the singers were individually expendable.
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Chick was of the opinion, like, you know, we
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won't give him a contract. I want the girls to feel
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like any one of them is replaceable At
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any time we Paul, you know, we didn't
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have anything. We needed some security,
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so we were pushing for this contract. And
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the contract wasn't the only thing causing
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tension because Jerry Halliwell was
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dead set and becoming the Spice
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Girls primary flavor. Jerry
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is a bit of a bossy face sometimes
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and I get a bit annoyed to death. I'm
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quite motivated in person,
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it's quite hungry face. But
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as months went by without a contract
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and without a record deal, the girls spent
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as much time squabbling as they did
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singing. We do have really bad
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arguments, sometimes really bad arguments
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where these things flying and this swear
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they didn't can get really really nasty sortimes.
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Jerry and Melanie were the strongest personalities
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within the band, and together
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they were an awesome force. And
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if they weren't getting on them, that was
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carnage. Why
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in November the Spice
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Girls finally got a break when Chris Herbert
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organized a showcase for a group of Indo street
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professionals. The girls knew it
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might be their only chance at success.
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Terrifying, absolutely terrifying, and
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our starling was abysmal. I think
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we were started by Jerry House. Gary is
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that. So they performed
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We're Gonna Make It, and I remember thinking,
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God, they're amazing. They're just so larger
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than life. You know. There wasn't
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particularly the best singing, the tightest performance.
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It's just an energy, a buzz, and that
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came every right from the beginning. The
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showcase confirmed Jerry Halliwell's feelings
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that the Spanish Girls had monster potential
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if only they had the proper management.
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I thought the management weren't that good. They were nice,
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but they didn't have experience, like you know,
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they were just like, you're next. When they were decided to be
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a manager, I think that at
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that point that balance of power kind
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of tipped and they then started
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to believe that, you know, what they were capable
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of achieving. In January,
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the girls decided to strike out on the rock
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under the cover of dark this and without a word
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to the group's creator, Chris Herbert, and
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packed up their demo tapes and left the house
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for good. We did a midnight fleet.
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We were terrified and we just went we
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were going out of there. I was furious
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at the time, absolutely furious. You know,
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it was my little baby, I've worked with the
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girls. I also thought that we're all kind of friends
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as well. I felt very
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let down, very angry, angry
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about how it was dealt with surviving
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a little more than unemployment checks. The Spice
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Girls traveled two hundred miles to Sheffield,
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England. There they appealed for
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help from fame songwriter Elliott Kennedy.
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They tried their hardest to impress me in a
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feminine way, I might say, and it didn't
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say long as to what going
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on. Said, well, look we're sacking our
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manager. The girls soon moved in with
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Kennedy, but they were still without a record
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contract and it seemed they had little
12:53
hope of getting one. In the early days, it
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was tough for us because at the time in
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these a big boom on boy band and
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then they weren't really interested in any female
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artists, and you know, that really got us.
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That infuriated us. So that's why we,
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you know, we created the girl power
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movement, you know, if you want to call it.
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But I think it was probably one of Jade's ideas.
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Pretty good with ideas. She really
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gave them their brash tone, the girl power
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thing that was largely her concept.
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So she was really kind of the brash one
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that didn't necessarily had the talent, but really
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kind of set the tone of where they were going.
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For months, the girls pestored labels and hopes
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of getting side. Then in March of ninety
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five, the persistence paid off when they enlisted
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longtime music manager Simon Fuller.
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Fuller would later achieve fame as the man behind
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American Idol, and he immediately heated
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up the Spice Girl's chances for success.
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Simon Fuller's influence in the band was
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just noticeable from day one. He made
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sure that they rehearsed on time, that everything
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was tightened up. It was more than just the singing
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the dancing. He had a vision. Within
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months, Fuller he convinced Virgin Records to
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sign the group, and soon the Spice
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Girls were working on the catchy chorus for their
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first single, When
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you were a gang of friends, you just have silly little catchphrases,
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and we were just you know, zig
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zigga. We just made a stupid thing and
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we were like, yeah, that'd be really funny if it was
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the chorus. And then it was. When
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the Spice Girls released Wanna Be in June,
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it was an instant total smash, the
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first single ever by an all girl group
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to debut at number one on the British charts,
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and they went from obscurity to this.
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Literally it was like an overnight thing that
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once it broke, it was just incredible
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in the UK incredible and
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that was it. That was when it all started. The autographs
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and banging on the van and you know all that crazy
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Beatles stuff. It was
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cool. The Spice Girls. Amazing
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start had launched them to instant fame.
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Music was way better
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than anybody would have expected. It was energetic,
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it was catchy, it was infectious, it was
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brash. They're all having fun, black
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fishing food in people's faces.
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Just made you want to be part of it. Really. Spice
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quickly spun out two more number one singles,
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including say You'll Be There. The
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record would go on to sell an astonishing
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twenty two million copies worldwide,
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many two young females who went wild for
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the Spice Girl's sassy message while
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doing this for you to make
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you be whatever you want to be, to help
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you be you know, a Spice Girl. I will
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ever asked to say your part something. Also,
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the girl's chasing fame, wanting
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to be heard. There was put my hand in
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my heart, I totally believe and go power.
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The girls put on a brassy united front
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as a group, egged on by manager
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Simon Fuller, they also took on individual
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identities, with the buxom and brash
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Jerry Halliwell adopting the name
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Jin Your Spice. Without
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doubt, the most outrageous member
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of the Spice Girls was Jerry Halliwell. Her
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personality was huge. It was infectious.
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Jerry just bursts on the scene and kind
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of over the top outfit. This
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mad dyed red hair, just breast
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popping out, a really low cut just fell
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out of her top as well, not that she seemed to
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care. In the group's videos.
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Ginger's flair was offset by the more mild
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baby Spice Emma Bunting. But
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Emma's sweet exterior belied a more
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saucy side. I'm naught even
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nice underneath this. I've got my leather
16:35
underwear. She was
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sweet, innocent, but saying off the microphone,
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and she was naughty, naughty as you could possibly
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want, you know. Melanie
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Brown, known for her quick temper, became
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Scary Spice, while trained gymnast
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Melanie Chisholm took the name Sporty
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Victoria Adams, the only group member with
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an upscale upbringing, called herself
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posh Reddish slang for rich.
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Victoria's always looked like she was
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serving community service by being
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in a Spice Girls video, So she was the one who was
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also above the whole thing, kind of your girlfriend
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who liked to go out with everybody and you know,
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but when somebody says something, she looks
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the other way. The girls
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in your face message an individual style
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was a powerful hook to fans who could
17:18
love the group and have a favorite Spice
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You liked the Beatles as a whole, but were the
17:23
Spice Girls you could identify with five different
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girls who might suit the way you look physically.
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I think every little girl in Britain wanted
17:30
to be poshal ginger or baby
17:32
or scary or sporty. It had never happened
17:34
before. Within months
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of their debut, the Spice Girls were blanketing
17:39
Britain and fans were buying everything
17:41
from CDs two Clark's to coffee
17:44
mugs. I don't think we've
17:46
ever seen, certainly within the UK,
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girls of three, four or five and six asking
17:51
their parents to buy them music. And
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there was a lot of money spent by consumers
17:55
on what seemed to be pages and pages
17:58
of merchandise in the Spice Girls cattle. They
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did watches, They did instant
18:03
cameras, all the kids had those. There
18:05
was Spice gat chocolate bars, There
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was the Spice Coast. Does I mean we
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did so many things? With spice
18:12
Mania gripping the world, Britain's tabloid
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press went wild for gossip about the group.
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There were spurious rumors that some of the girls
18:19
were lesbian lovers, and that Emma Bunton
18:21
and manager Simon Fuller were having a
18:23
tour at Affair. The tabloids
18:25
nitpicked every public and private
18:28
aspect of the Spice Girls you could possibly
18:30
imagine. If they weren't
18:32
sleeping with men, it was news. If they were
18:34
sleeping with men, it was news. They were like the Beatles
18:36
there, every single move was document of The
18:38
paparazzi were everywhere. You said this thing,
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if you pay our closure on a Saturday night, you
18:43
dread that phone call because you know there's a big story
18:45
in on the Sunday.
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So those were difficult times for
18:51
a time. The girls fueled the fire without
18:53
landish clothes and even more outrageous
18:55
antics, and no one grabbed more
18:57
headlines than Jerry halliwell, everywhere
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she went she caused, you know, complete
19:02
controversy. When she met Prince Charles,
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she kissed him on the cheek, she pinched his
19:07
bottom. I mean, all the rural aids must
19:09
have been tearing their hair out, thinking what is this woman
19:11
doing. She wouldn't curtsy
19:13
for the Queen because she had on that low cut dress
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and her beabs are in danger of spilling
19:18
out all over the place. Within
19:20
months, the Girls had conquered Written, and by
19:22
early seven they were aiming to
19:24
do the same to the United States. Spice
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Girls not only conquered in the US, they got
19:29
themselves in the cover of Rolling Stone. We
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always hoped that we'd get hurt
19:35
and our message would get listened to up but we didn't.
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I don't think we actually knew it would
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be as big or as
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amazing as it as it is today.
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M By the summer of ninety
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seven, the Spice Girls were at work on their eagerly
19:49
anticipated follow up album,
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but within days of the records released, the group
19:54
dropped the bombshell when they fired
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Simon Fuller, the man who had masterminded
19:59
their Titanic bab You The
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stunning move immediately sparked new rumors
20:03
that things that turned sour between Simon
20:06
in Baby Spice. There
20:08
are so many different star using the arts
20:11
and things, but it was a collective decision
20:14
to leave Samon. None of us were happy. Nearly
20:17
four years after forming, The Spice Girls
20:19
wanted total control of their own destiny,
20:21
and they resented the uproar that greeted their
20:23
decision. People thought it was the end
20:26
of the Spice Girls because we were leaving our manager,
20:28
when we knew that we were the ones with millions
20:31
of fans all over the world our manager.
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One of the most important messages that the Spice
20:36
Girls were trying to promote was that of girl
20:38
power. So when they fired Simon
20:41
Fuller, that was the ultimate girl
20:43
power move. They wanted to show the world
20:45
that they didn't need a man to be in control
20:48
of them. They didn't need a man telling them what to
20:50
do. The Spice
20:52
Girls had only released one album
20:54
and already they fired two managers,
20:57
but the real drama was yet to come.
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Next, the Spice Girls split up.
21:03
When Behind the Music Continues less
21:19
than four years after forming on a ramshackle
21:21
London stage, the Spice Girls
21:23
were among the most celebrated pop stars in
21:26
the world. By the fall of their
21:29
global legion of fans ranged from armies
21:31
of American five year olds to
21:33
the President of South Africa, Nelson
21:35
Mandela. It was
21:37
like living twenty years in
21:40
five years. We did things
21:43
that some people don't do in a lifetime.
21:45
When were you meeting the President Mandela? The
21:47
next minute you were doing a big press conference
21:49
in cans two thousand people. Within
21:52
a few days of firing manager Simon Fuller,
21:55
in November of the Girls
21:57
released their second album, Spice World.
21:59
They did consigned a fan frenzy, selling
22:01
an amazing seven million copies in
22:04
just two weeks. Spice
22:06
World all the way through, Man, that thing is
22:08
chock full of hits, and it's peppy, it's energetic,
22:11
it's fun. There's a little hip hop,
22:13
there's a little Jamaican dance hall stuff.
22:16
It's a very good record. Within
22:18
weeks, the girls released a movie of the same
22:20
name. It could have been embarrassing
22:23
overkill. Instead, it became
22:25
the number one film in England and seemed
22:27
to confirm that the girls could do no wrong.
22:30
We're just having fun and we enjoyed every minute
22:33
of it. And we're in a girl gang and you can't
22:35
be being in a girl gang. It was fabulous.
22:38
It should have been the biggest flop that England
22:40
had ever seen, and it turned out to be sensational.
22:45
That was a really crazy time. It was like everything
22:47
we touched tends to girls, and I think that
22:49
people around us maybe thought that,
22:51
you know, this isn't the last forever. Let's milk
22:53
this cow. The appetite
22:55
for Spice seemed insatiable in
22:57
the UK and in the US, fans
23:00
swarm to the Vivacious Five, gobbling
23:02
up their albums and adopting their garish
23:04
garb and brash sense of style.
23:07
You could actually identify with ones and you
23:09
could be athletic and be like sporting, you
23:11
know, or be sort of adorable and be like baby
23:14
and kids really reacted to it because they
23:16
could see themselves in these girls. America
23:19
was just mental. In England, the
23:22
kids used to dress up, you know, there'd be a baby
23:24
Spice or a posh Spice or a sporty or
23:26
whatever. But in America the
23:28
parents used to dress like us, and
23:31
that used to freak us out quite a lot. The
23:35
Spice Girls seemed on top of the world,
23:38
but in the spring of ninety eight, a sudden scandal
23:40
struck the group when Playboy magazine
23:43
published nude photos of Jerry Halliwell.
23:46
The racy shots have been taken before Jerry
23:48
joined the Spice Girls at a time
23:50
when she was desperate for cash.
23:53
I met a girl who told me
23:55
about how you could earn two hundred pounds
23:57
an hour if you took your
23:59
top like you did on the beach. Anyway,
24:02
and to that, it's certainly
24:04
come back to home in a massive way.
24:08
The newly surfaced photos caused a furor,
24:11
and Jerry Halliwell found herself at the center
24:13
of a bitter backlash. Jerry
24:15
was the first to kind of be portrayed as slutty
24:18
Spice all of a sudden, not only did she talk
24:20
dirty, but now she was dirty.
24:23
There was a real fuss made, and people pretty
24:25
much outraged, I think because the bands
24:27
were being targeted for quite a young
24:29
age group and it's pretty shocking for thirteen
24:32
year old girls and younger to see their
24:34
aisles just wearing nothing. But basically
24:37
people were shot by it. The
24:39
uproar over jerry saucy photo spread
24:42
added yet another layer of madness to the
24:44
constant hysteria surrounding the group.
24:46
Two years into the spice sensation. The girls
24:49
were both exhilarated and exhausted.
24:53
I think things we ever changing, To
24:56
be honest with you, we used to go through waves
24:58
of times when it would be times
25:00
when we just felt like we couldn't carry on anymore,
25:03
you know. So much of it was to do with the exhaustion.
25:05
We were just so tired. To
25:07
Melanie Chisholm, the stress of superstardom
25:10
was darting and she was paying a constant
25:12
price with her health in exchange for
25:14
success. We
25:18
all dealt with things in our own
25:20
way, and mine was an obsession
25:23
with exercise and and
25:25
eating, It's
25:28
fair to say throughout most of the space as
25:30
I was anorexic, and that was the way I survived,
25:33
you know, I run on the treadmill. I'd run away from
25:35
everything. Melanie
25:38
wasn't the only one who was reeling. Living in
25:40
a fish ball was taking its toll on the rest
25:43
of the group too. They were managing
25:45
themselves, but they didn't really know what they're doing. So
25:48
I think in narratably, that cause a lot of strange
25:51
Who was going to be the boss, Who was going to be in
25:53
charge? You know what it's like you have a group
25:55
of women together, there's always going to be tension
25:57
and bitterness and fighting and sid
26:00
when Fuller was able to sort of dissolve
26:02
any of those disputes. Never
26:04
any fights in this group. An
26:07
argument us about them. No,
26:11
you want to hear the downside things, There
26:13
is no downside positive
26:17
energy. The girls
26:20
put on a brave front, but as they toured
26:22
Europe in the spring of rumors
26:25
of trouble within the group continued to grow,
26:28
especially after Jerry missed two concert performances
26:31
in several public photo ops.
26:33
On one occasion, they were due to appear on National
26:36
Lottery, but only four girls
26:38
emerged on stage and everyone's like, where's Jerry,
26:40
Where's she gone? And I think that was the beginning of
26:42
the end. Things
26:45
obviously started getting downhill. There
26:47
were obviously squabbles amongst themselves.
26:51
The Spice Girls were still one of the most popular
26:53
groups in the world, but as they prepared
26:56
to tour the US, Jerry
26:58
Halliwell was ready to call it wits.
27:01
You should never be the last to lead the party.
27:03
I said to the other girls that you want to go. Then
27:05
at the end of the American tour, you can't get better than
27:07
that, you know, You've done it. You
27:09
know, We've brought it to the max. She'd
27:11
been saying that she was unhappy for quite a few months.
27:14
She was always wanted to be
27:16
the big star, and I think she just saw
27:18
the other girls as a platform to get to there. Ultimately,
27:22
Jerry didn't even wait for the American tour
27:24
to begin. Only
27:26
days before the Spice Girls were to leave for the
27:28
States, on Mate, Jerry
27:32
announced that she was quitting the group and
27:34
would return as a solo artist. Ironically,
27:37
Melsey felt that the relations between the girls
27:39
had just taken a turn for the better.
27:43
I remember getting up and getting a phone call
27:45
from the Spice's Life saying that Jerry's
27:47
not coming to it today. She said
27:49
she's left the band, and
27:51
it was like, what, you know.
27:54
I couldn't believe it, because you
27:57
know, things are hard sometimes, but at the moment
28:00
is a really good It's still baffles
28:02
me. I thought,
28:04
you know, this isn't for me anymore. It's not when
28:06
you leave a marriage. You can't say
28:09
how we got divorced because of just one
28:11
particular reason. She wasn't happy and wasn't
28:13
doing what she wanted and wasn't allowed
28:15
to do what she wanted. The
28:19
rest of the group was stunned by the news at
28:22
a critical moment in their careers, five
28:24
Spice Girls had become four, shocking
28:28
news to the band, to devastated people, because
28:31
the Spice Girls were all about being five.
28:33
It was kind of like one of the members of the TV cast
28:35
of Friends deciding not to come back. All
28:37
of a sudden, it just wasn't quite the Spice Girls
28:39
anymore. They were like five sisters. So
28:42
Jerry's departure quit the girls in a very
28:44
difficult and challenging position. Sporty,
28:48
scary Baby and Posh decided
28:50
to press on without Ginger. But
28:52
suddenly the Spice Girls weren't such a hot
28:54
item anymore. Fans
28:57
were devastated. You buy your ticket, you show
28:59
up, and now there's not five, there's four. So
29:02
there seemed to be a mixed message here
29:04
that we're going to be together forever, Girl's
29:06
rule, girl Power stayed together girls, and oh
29:08
but Ginger is not on this tour. Suddenly
29:11
that dream was fattered. Suddenly that great
29:13
we are so trendy, We've got the Spice Girls,
29:15
we promoted girl power all over the world
29:17
was gone. Amazingly,
29:20
just two years after releasing their first
29:22
single, the Spice Girls were on the
29:24
verge of complete collapse. We
29:27
just, you know, Jerry, let's just finish what we
29:29
started, you know, let's just completely American
29:32
like at the tour. But she didn't want to carry
29:34
on, and we were really really angry with that. It
29:37
was never the same again. I mean, the four scary,
29:40
posh Baby and Sporty. They
29:42
tried to carry on, they did the American
29:44
tour, but it was never the same.
29:47
You know, I lived and breathed every
29:50
moment of being in the Spice Girls, I really
29:52
did. And so then suddenly,
29:55
you know, I was out my own and I had
29:57
to rebuild my life. In
29:59
June of Jerry released her
30:01
first album, Schizophrenic. Although
30:06
it's sold more than a million copies worldwide,
30:09
audiences were unsure what to make
30:11
of a solo Spice Girl. She
30:14
releases a single upsets a lot
30:16
of kids with the videos because the one
30:18
scene as a hearse goes past with a
30:20
coffin with Ginger in flowers
30:23
arrangement all along it. So of course
30:25
all the kids were really upset, you know, death of Ginger.
30:28
Jerry halliwell, solo career is just
30:31
it's just like watching a car crash. I mean, the songs
30:33
that she chooses to put out A just
30:36
ludicrous Schizophrenic
30:38
was widely seen as a disappointment that
30:40
Jerry setback didn't deter the remaining Spice
30:43
Girls from dabbling on separate solo
30:45
projects. In the fall
30:47
of ninety nine, Melanie Chisholm abandoned
30:50
Spicemania for a chance to work
30:52
on her own. I was
30:54
still on any way from my demons, so I
30:56
ran away to l A and
30:59
I just reckonside record and
31:02
you know, that's when I emitted my eating
31:04
disorder to myself. And that
31:06
was the beginning of a very long road. But
31:09
out of all that pain and heartache came
31:12
an album I'm very proud of, you know,
31:14
Northern Star, and to south three million copies.
31:18
In November of two thousand, more than three
31:20
years after their last album, the final
31:22
four Spice Girls regrouped and released
31:24
the defiantly entitled Forever.
31:27
But the group was no longer a hot property,
31:30
and the record total the fraction of its predecessors.
31:33
Take Spice Girls Forever tagged.
31:36
And this was just a last
31:38
gasp. I mean, the last song on it is called Goodbye.
31:42
It wasn't the real Spice Cast anymore, you know, I
31:44
mean the Spice Cast was a five of us. In
31:48
the aftermath of Forever, the group quietly
31:50
disbanded to concentrate full time on solo
31:53
careers. Victoria
31:58
also found success as it was acted
32:00
fashion designer, launching her own
32:02
eponymous clothing label, having
32:04
married England's most flamboyant soccer
32:07
star David Beckham in the
32:10
two are the ultimate golden couple in
32:12
the UK. Wherever they go. The
32:14
photograft that been in countless
32:17
magazines. The public seems to be obsessed
32:19
with them. I think we are says with them as
32:21
well. In two thousand seven,
32:24
the Spice Girls reunited for their first
32:26
reunion tour, The Return of the
32:28
Spice Girls. Tickets sold
32:30
out in seconds. Later
32:32
in the girls performed
32:35
their hits at the closing ceremony of the Summer
32:37
Olympics in London. They
32:39
reunited again for the Spice World
32:42
Tour, though Victoria Beckham
32:44
was unable to perform.
32:47
In July, for
32:49
the twenty fifth anniversary of Wannabe, the
32:52
group released never before heard studio
32:54
demos as well as Spice,
32:57
a reissue of their debut album,
33:00
The Spice Girls was Amazing
33:03
and I'm very proud that was a pot of Bito.
33:07
Marks the anniversary of the
33:09
beloved Spiceworld movie, which
33:11
has become a true cult classic. Fans
33:14
can go see the iconic tour bus from the
33:16
film on permanent display on
33:19
the Isle of Wight in England. With
33:22
their iconic pop hits, fashion
33:24
and girl power attitude, the
33:27
Spice Girls paved the way for new
33:29
generations of female artists to take
33:31
the music world by storm.
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