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With colorful style, loud attitude,
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and timeless songs, they became immortal.
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In their decade at the top, t l C made
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the hits that made history,
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but with every chart topping high came
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an unthinkable low. Through
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the darkest of times, their bond seemed
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unbreakable until the resident
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rebel threatened their sisterhood. With
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intimate, new interviews and never before
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seen footage, witnessed the last
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chapter of t l c's fabled story
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and the surreal final months of Lisa
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Lopez's life. For the first
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time, the surviving members of t l C
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walk us through the emotional ending of their saga,
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an amazing journey of love, loss
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and remembrance. Now
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while behind the music t l C
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the final chapter, they
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were crazy, sexy and
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cool, and for ten colorful
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years t l she reigned as the Queens
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of pot. What TILSE
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had was this incredible bond of
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three unique individuals that had
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a similar goal on passion, which was the
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music to a legion
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of fans worldwide. The Atlanta threesome
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of ti On, t Bas Watkins, Rosanda
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Chili Thomas and Lisa left
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I Lopez with a definition of girl
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power. We always
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sit up for what we believed in. We stuck
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together as a group. The unity
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it was just so powerful and nobody could
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break that. From on,
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they sold over thirty million albums,
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claiming the title of greatest selling female
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act in history. But
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as anyone who saw TLCS first behind
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the music knows, the road to greatness
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was pothole my bankruptcy.
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This is how a group can sell tenian records
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and be broken sickness. I remember like
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praying a guy like please, somebody shot
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it, and most famously fire
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and I'll turn on the town and I see
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the house in flame. Eight
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years into their career, the trio seemed
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to have weathered the drama with their sister like
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bond intact. Little could they have predicted
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the triumph and tragedy looming in the second
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chapter of their saga. In
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February of nine, after
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three years of radio silence, TLC
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re emerged with their third album, fan
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Mail. They looked and sounded
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vibrant as ever. Powered
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by the sassy no scrubs, fan Mail
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was an instant smash. The
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impact at radio ended like MTV A
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t r O was just enormous
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simultaneously, which doesn't
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happen that often. Sometimes you know, and
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with no scrubs. It was so obvious, it was so huge.
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Fan Mail sees the top spot on the Billboard
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album charts, selling a million copies
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in its first month. TLC
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finally seemed free of the drama that had
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shadowed every step in their career, but
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behind closed doors, the sisterhood
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was splintering. Left Eye
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had begun plotting a solo career. There
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are a lot of things that I would like to relate
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people creatively, conceptually,
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lyrically, a lot of things that I would like to get
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off of my chest. She
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wanted to do stuff that maybe me and Chili
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weren't ready to do or didn't want to do it all, and
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I respect that. It's just when
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she chose to do it. You can go solo,
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you can do whatever you want, but just don't quit on us.
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In a May of ninety nine cover story for
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Vibe magazine, Lisa offered fans
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of first taste of her breakaway aspirations.
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Speaking of fan mail, she said, I
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cannot stand one behind this
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TLC project. This will be my last
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interview until I can speak freely about the
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truth and present myself on my solo
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project. There weren't rumors
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of it that the girls weren't getting along, but nothing
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really concrete, and that's when it's sort
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of got confirmed. In
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September of nine, with fan mail
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well over the five times platinum mark, the
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girls sat down to plan their most ambitious
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and rigorous tour to date. But while
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t Bons and Chili were eager to hit the stage,
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Lisa was eager to hit the studio to work
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on her solo project. She wants to
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do kind of like a shortcut thing, like let's
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do an HBO special and just get
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some money and do some other things, you know.
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But we were like kind of like, we have a promoter, we've
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already sold tickets, it's the right thing to do,
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and we have to kind of agreed to some things
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that she wanted in order for
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her to come on tour with us. So
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it was kind of like that, alright, well, I'll
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do this tour if my
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group can open to play.
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Kate Left Eye TLC signed on
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her proteges to open the shows. A
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three piece girl group she found in Philly
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called Black Lisa was
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on board barely. I
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just kind of remember, you know, right
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before we would go on stage, I would see
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her and just kind of at like I didn't
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see her or you know, we'd be on stage
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and I didn't want to stand next
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to her. Her heart
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wasn't in it the way it used to be, you know, and
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we had almost pulled it by her hair girl
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come out here. Early
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into the fan Mail road trip, the girls rolled
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into New York for a promotional stop at MTV's
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Total Request Live, But just minutes
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before rare time, a group meeting went
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south. I think
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we were talking about the tour or something, I don't know,
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and Lisa says something she
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she pissed me off in I just
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I had to walk out because you know, I felt I
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was just getting too mad. And I walked
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out and Lisa and Tian
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had words. Tian has basically just had
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it and she was ready to fight. That's it, Like,
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that's it. I'm ready to fight. You just get it on. I
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do you remember, like almost minutes before
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going on the air that day, hearing that
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only two of them were coming, and
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I immediately thought, oh boy, there's there's trouble
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in paradise. I bet it's Lisa
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here they are TLCS. I
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was looking at TV and they said that she
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wasn't coming up. We are one short, were missing
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l and tlc left eye. She okay,
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she's not well, don't
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get mad, but she don't feel
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goodn't feel good. So
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I caught the hotel and she
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was crying. She was telling me about like
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no one wants to listen to her, and I really felt
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bad for her. So I went back
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and turned a TV on and heard what they was
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going to say. Why she was not there? Is
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it a flu thing? Is it I have to say? Is emodia?
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Maybe put it together? Okay,
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you just said that. Two days
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later, the trio headed to Entertainment Weekly
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for a cover photo shoot, but before
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the first shutter snapped, Lisa walked
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off set for a meeting about her solo project
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in sense that her lack of commitment. Tan
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and Chili gave the magazine a scathing interview,
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saying, Lisa doesn't respect the whole group,
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she doesn't stick with us. That
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was the first time we ever really told
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the truth in the press, because we just
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wanted to give her a dulceph her miss And I know how
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it felt, you know, to be blasted in
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the press and actually to see, you
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know, see yourself for what you are and what you're doing
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right now, you know, and it just wasn't
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right. In response to her bandmates
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candid Talk, Lisa fired a letter back
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to e W that's since become known
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as the Challenge. In it,
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she dared her groupmates ten Player
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Watkins and Rosanda Hayter Thomas
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to a solo sales contest one
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record, each winner takes all. I'm
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not going to compete against my own group member.
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You can't compete against your own family to win against
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the world. It just doesn't work. And it
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was funny because we were kind of laughing at the
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same time, and you know, Piste off too.
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You don't want to fight your sister, but I
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really wanted to punch it. Oh
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my dude, what is wrong with you? Lisa
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not only was one of the most creative people
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that I ever known, but she also
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knew how to ring in the press. And
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the difference between Lisa and TiVos and
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Chili was that Lisa felt
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that all press was good pressed and Tibos
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and Chili didn't feel that way. Despite
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the controversy, TLC's first arena
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headlining tour was a nationwide smash,
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but while the girls were all smiles on
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stage, left eyes, relentless. Media
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high jinks were threatening to dissolve their music
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and their friendship. I got
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to the point where I personally didn't
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even want to be in the same room with Lisa
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because she was a very different Lisa
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to me and Lisa I
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met years ago. You know,
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she wasn't that playful, silly Lisa
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anymore, and you know, everything
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was just so serious. She just became
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this person that I didn't know. By
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the end of t lcs
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third album, fan Mail, had sold well
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over five million copies and spawned
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two global hits, the playful
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No Scrubs and an anthem of inner beauty
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called Unpretty. It
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was on the set of the Unpretty video that Tien
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would find true love with
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hardcore West Coast MC mac ten.
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Tian has always kind of avitated
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more towards the rough guy,
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you know, and mac ten is
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that. Five months
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later, on New Year's Eve, a
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nervous Mactent dropped to his knees and
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popped the question before twelve o'clock
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hit. He was looking at all big ey to scare
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and I was like, what's wrong? And you want to talk about
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something something on your mind, noting wrong with you.
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He was probably shaking in his bos, like, oh
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my god, am I gonna really married his girl? Tien's
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love life was complete, But TLC,
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we're coming undone. In
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January of two thousand, the girls wrapped
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the American leg of the turbulent fan Mail
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tour in their native Atlanta. But
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while t Bas and Chili were eager to take
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the show overseas, Lisa's focus
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had shifted to finishing her first solo album,
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Supernova. I was
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really piste off because I love touring
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and I didn't want to stop, and I just felt like
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it's stopped too soon, and it was, you
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know, out of my hands. Despite
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their dissolving bond, TLC were
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the toast of the industry. That
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February, Grammy honored Fan Mail with
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eight nominations, including Album
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of the Year. The best starr in the album
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is Old
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Tally. The trio walked off with three statues
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that night, but for Tian, the
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greatest gift was yet to come. Well,
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we were on the Grammys, I was already pregnant. I didn't
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even know that, and I found out like a
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couple of months later that I was too months
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pregnant. I was just like, WHOA, because you know, I
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was told I couldn't have kids. At an early
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age, Tian had been diagnosed with sickle
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cell anemia, a debilitating sickness
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that stops blood from reaching vital organs.
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Though she had been sternly warned by doctors
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that childbirth could bring life threatening complications,
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she made the risky decision to keep
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her baby, with
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doctors telling her that maybe she probably
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couldn't have children it would be too difficult, and
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her just being like, you know what, I don't
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believe that, you know, I get pregnant.
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I believe in God that he's gonna see
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this top through. In August
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of two thousand, at a seaside chapel in
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Palace Vertus, California, a seven
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months pregnant Tion married mac chan.
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Lisa was not at the wedding. For
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a minute, I'm just like, why didn't she come? But
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my day was so happy. I didn't really trip on it
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because of everything that we had gone through, and just
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Lisa basically, in my opinion,
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being very selfish, not really
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thinking about the group, only thinking
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of herself. It made sense for her not to
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be there. I know, if it was my wedding, I wouldn't have wanted
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her to be there. The TLC
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sisterhood was ailing, but left eyes
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love affair with the media was stronger
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than ever. In early September
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two thousand, after missing a scheduled interview,
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Lisa puld her craftiest publicity prank
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today, releasing a bogus
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report of her own disappearance.
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Even though you know that she would do that kind of stuff, is
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always the chance still left at it. Maybe
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this is real, you know. And
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then we found out on you know, on the inside
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that she really wasn't you know. It pissed me off.
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When people love you and they think you're missing. I
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mean, my god, that's that's not cool.
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Ironically, Lisa was miles away
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from the media swarm she'd created. Beginning
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of n Lisa had sought spiritual
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refuge at the remote Usha Village in Honduras,
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a sprawl of humble huts on the edge
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of a dense Central American jungle. She
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was totally at home and totally happy there.
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All of her heaviness was gone, all
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of the bad energy that
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I had seen her display was gone.
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It was a place where she can just sort of sit
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and be quiet and and think she
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was then how there were no televisions in the rooms,
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and you know it's very peaceful,
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and you know that I should come. So
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I was like, man, I don't know about that. No TV.
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She told me it was one hud Well, one TV, no
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satellite. I was like, girl, I am not going
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because I need my Hbos.
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Sopranos is the child in
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the tiny village. Lisa sought guidance
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for body and soul from an herbal guru
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named Dr Savy. Dr
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Savy, you know, according to him, can cure
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anything everything from trying
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to lose weight too, you
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know, looking for a cure for AIDS. People
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go there with hopes and dreams that Dr
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Savy can somehow save them.
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She had been through so many intense
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problems in her career and in her
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life and in a personal life that she didn't
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know where to turn. And this
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doctor, she said, and showing
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her how to really open up and cleanse
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all of the negativity out of her. She
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told me she was selling with alcoholism.
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I know she was smoking excessively cigarettes,
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drinking and smoking. She asked
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me, what do I need to do to stay
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on the side of peace. I say,
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fast, do what Jesus did she
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said, what did Jesus do? You thought it for
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forty days on for nights midway
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through her forty day or deal and obviously
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gaunt, Lisa spoke with MTV News,
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have been polluting my
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body for thirty years. Forty
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days is not a long time to me, too
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fast forty days represents
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overcoming death. It's it's the number
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of days that Jesus fast fore and I
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kind of I feel like I'm on a journey
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sometimes don't really
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know quite
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where I'm headed. At the
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ending of the fast thing, she came to me. I heard
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the door opening at two o'clock in the morning, she
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said, I completed
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my fast this morning. I
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said, what did you see? I
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saw God. I saw
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a compassion as being the
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only giving. As
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Lisa chased the demons from her life,
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t Odd welcomed an angel to her
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world. On October t
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Bos gave birth to her child, a
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five pound, two ounce girl she named
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Chase. My daughter's funny. You know, usually
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baby's eyes are closed, like my baby was trying to
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stare from day one. It's like
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she's been here before. But it was the most beautiful
15:12
thing then. That's so like my miracle baby.
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Despite potential complications from her
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sickle cell anemia. The new Mom
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seemed to pull through delivery in good health,
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but just three days later, medical complications
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left her in a new or coma, fighting
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for her life in the I c U of an l A
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hospital. When I came to, I
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remember my mom. They rode the baby
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in there, and I remember them
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putting her blanket over my nose
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to smell my baby, like you know, you have a reason
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to stay here, like you know, don't
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slip away. Tim would eventually
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make a full recovery, but t l C was
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the last thing on her mind. By
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the end of two thousand, the trio were on indefinite
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hiatus as solo albums
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and Motherhood took precedence over t LC.
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Fans wondered aloud if fan mail had
15:58
been there farewell. Rumors were really
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starting to fly that they meeting my break
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up. We were all doing her whole thing. I was raising
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a baby, you know, I was a
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new mother, and that to me
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was more important than anything going on. So I didn't
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really care what nobody was doing at the time. Point on True
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Next the loss of a sister When
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behind the music continues. By
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the summer of two thousand one, and Lisa's media
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mischief had fractured her bomb with t BOS
16:28
and Chile and pushed TLC to
16:30
the verge of implosion. That
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August, after nearly two years in and out
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of the studio, she finally completed
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her first solo album, Supernova.
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The first time I heard Supernova was
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in Honduras. Pol supplayed
16:44
it for me, and I was really
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surprised because I
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wasn't expecting it's
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to be so spiritual.
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Who would expect that from a girl who burned
16:56
down a house. She
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had excelled me on what she had done
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before, and I thought that she really had gotten
17:03
to a different place musically.
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But Arista Records was underwhelmed
17:09
by Lisa's new direction. Unconvinced
17:11
the Supernova sales potential label had
17:14
l A. Reid refused to release the album in
17:16
America. You know,
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it was a tough thing, and we definitely felt
17:20
that the pressure was there to deliver something
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compelling, and I wasn't
17:25
sure that we had something that was compelling.
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She was o she wasn't mad about
17:30
that. You know, work her companies, they always
17:32
go back on their words, switch up everything,
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and you know, I guess they didn't win Bamboom
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on her. As Lisa's
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solo career ground to a standstill,
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her groupmates saw a chance to give
17:43
TLC one more try.
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They were all, you know, just kind of going our
17:49
separate ways. Everybody had their own thing
17:51
going on. But I don't know, something
17:53
hit me. I just I was like, no, we
17:56
have to do one more record. Though
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her endless drama over the last two years
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had alienated Lisa from the group, Tien
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and Chili asked if she'd be willing to make one
18:05
final TLC album.
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I think at that point, you know, we just kind of
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wanted to go in and basically show
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everybody, look, we haven't broken up. Miraculously,
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Lisa accepted, and
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in late two thousand one, TLC entered
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a recording studio together for the first time
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and over three years to begin sessions
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for their fourth album, three D. It
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was really rewarding because we
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had gone through all of the bad press,
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and we had gone through the breakups,
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and and we were all really excited
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to prove to everybody that once
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again the press was wrong. It
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was just like the old days, really, you know, acting
18:43
silly and stand there even
18:45
if you didn't have to sing a part, just being supportive
18:48
of the other member. It was good
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for us. We all needed that. I think we
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were having fun in the studios like day Won,
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you know, um, no arguments. It
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felt like, you know, we were
19:00
all kind of back in sync with each other. But
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that didn't last long. Despite
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t LC's renewed harmony, Lisa
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never abandoned hope of his solo career,
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and midway through the three D sessions,
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she felt she'd finally found the man to
19:14
make it happen. Infamous
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death Row record CEO Shook Night,
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she says she had a dream that shok Knight was the
19:22
one she's just signed to, and
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that's why she approached him and wanted to do a
19:26
deal over there. That was her thing, that was her id, she
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called him her thing was and
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she wanted to be way more. She
19:33
wanted to be street. She want to be hardcore, and
19:35
I said, you know, if you want a street record, we can do that.
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In October of that year, Shoog formally
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announced Lisa's addition to the Row roster
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as a solo artist next on one
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of the seven point five. That same
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month, in a New York radio interview,
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Night claimed Chili had performed the stripteas
19:53
in the death row offices, and that t
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Bos had lost her looks after giving
19:57
birth. I just didn't understand
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of how she could be associated
20:02
with someone who could talk about her group members
20:04
like that, who are like her sisters. Almost
20:07
immediately after the signing, Lisa disappeared
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to Los Angeles to plot her next solo
20:12
move with shuk, leaving three D
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in permanent limbo. She
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wasn't showing up at the studio. She
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was out in California meeting
20:22
with him, and I was just like, oh God, he
20:24
would go again. I was just like,
20:26
good luck whatever at that point,
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you know, if that's what she wants to do, and that's
20:31
where her heart was, and that's what she felt then. So
20:33
bit with Lisa a Wall,
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Tian and Chiley completed as much of
20:37
three D as they could, but in
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January of two thousand two, Tian suffered
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a complete physical collapse, brought
20:45
on by her continued battle with sickle cell
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anemia. I think my body just
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had it, because that's the longest
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that I've ever spent in the hospital. I
20:54
was really worried. I
20:56
was really worried about her. I
20:59
just know would pray that she would
21:01
get better and I go visit her and stuff, and
21:03
you know, it's like, hey, when you get better,
21:06
go right back in the studio and we pick up and finish
21:08
this. You know. For
21:11
four months, Tian slipped in and out of
21:13
consciousness in the I c U of an Atlanta
21:15
hospital as friends prayed for
21:17
her survival, A surprise guest
21:20
dropped by for a visit. I
21:22
heard this loud voice come down the hallway. She
21:24
was like, yeah, I'm coming to the room right now, and
21:27
I was just like, there's you go. Without
21:30
warning, Lisa had flown back from Los Angeles
21:32
to be by tian side.
21:36
I'm always cracking joes in the hospital. I
21:38
was cracking Joe. She's like, you crazy. I
21:40
was in and out of it, you know, going to sleep and waking
21:43
back up, and you know, we have conversation in
21:45
between. And then she told me she was gonna go um
21:48
to hun doors. As
21:51
Lisa prepared for her next journey to the Usha
21:53
village, Chili frantically trying to
21:55
contact her. A strange friend I
21:57
was trying to catch her and
22:00
us. I wanted to talk to her. I wanted to
22:02
ask her the real reason
22:04
why she wasn't coming to the studio. You
22:06
know. I wanted to know, if you know, if
22:08
you really want to do your solo stuff, then
22:10
why make us feel like you're
22:13
on board. I
22:16
never got that chance. In March
22:18
of two thousand one, with Tian still in
22:20
the hospital and three D barely halfway
22:23
down, Lisa Lopez boarded a flight
22:25
from Atlanta to Honduras.
22:27
She would never return. Coming
22:30
up next, Tian has a deadly
22:32
premonition when behind the music
22:35
continues. By
22:41
early two thousand two, sessions for
22:43
t LC's fourth album, three D were
22:45
on in definite hold. As
22:48
Tian recovered from a near fatal collapse,
22:50
Lisa flew south to the Usha Village,
22:53
her mystical hideaway deep in the jungles
22:55
of Honduras. That's where she found
22:57
peace at That's where she felt come
23:00
doble. She loved it there, she said to
23:02
us. Had gone to some heavy
23:04
stuff and needed to get back to cleansing.
23:07
With her first solo album, Supernova rejected
23:10
by Arista Records and the TLC sisterhood
23:13
ailing, Lisa had begun to look
23:15
beyond music for salvation. TLC
23:18
has achieved a lot, but there's
23:21
so many more things that I would love to do in the future,
23:24
you know, outside of singing, I would love to
23:27
venture off into healing. She
23:30
was on a quest for spiritual and physical
23:32
renewal and her guide was the founder of
23:34
the Usha Village and herbal wiseman
23:36
named Dr Saby. She
23:39
said, I'm gonna make you famous. I
23:41
said, how because I'm gonna talk about you.
23:44
Does everyone know your care AIDS and cancer.
23:46
There's just a lot of people in the world
23:48
who are suffering sick. They're
23:50
not happy, They're looking for answering. They
23:52
don't know where to turn. Well, I know a
23:55
man who's been curing it since Lanten seven.
23:57
This guy has taught me a lot, and I need to share
24:00
my knowledge, you know, with the world. Despite
24:05
Lisa's absence, by mid April, Tian
24:07
and Chile we're back at work on three D, plodding
24:10
forward as a twosome. While
24:12
returning home from the studio on April, Tian
24:16
had a strange premonition. I
24:19
was in my Porsche and I remember telling
24:21
my security I want to drop this car off
24:23
because I don't feel comfortable driving
24:26
this car this day, because I feel like I'm getting a wreck.
24:28
And I dropped my car off at home and
24:31
that was the same day, so
24:36
I guess that's sothing. Two
24:40
thousand miles south, at almost
24:42
that exact same moment, Lisa,
24:45
her sister Raina, and members of the group
24:47
Egypt struck out in an suv from
24:49
RuSHA towards the nearby creek.
24:52
And maybe about ten
24:54
minutes after they left, you know, Randa came back. You
24:56
know, she was crying and she told me there was an
24:58
accident. Car was in front of us and
25:00
it just stopped. So
25:03
she went to spurve out of the way of the car and the
25:05
suven went out of control. Lisa's
25:08
car careened off the two lane mountain
25:10
road, rolling numerous times before
25:13
coming to rest in a dirt ravine. While
25:15
the other passengers sustained only minor
25:17
injuries, Lisa was thrown from the vehicle
25:20
and died minutes later of head
25:22
and neck trauma. You know how
25:24
things moving slowmotion. You're there,
25:26
you see it, and it's
25:29
it's surreal. I mean, you know, it's
25:32
just like slow motion, like a movie.
25:35
Just one year earlier, Lisa had faked
25:37
her own disappearance in an ill conceived
25:40
publicity stunt. As word
25:42
of the accident reached friends and family, all
25:44
wanted desperately to believe this was
25:46
another left eye hoax case
25:50
she planned. Is
25:53
she serious or is she you know? Is a
25:55
joke, But this time the situation
25:58
was all too real. Lisa Lopez
26:00
was dead. She was just thirty
26:03
years old. The
26:05
tragedy of Lisa's passing was amplified
26:07
for Chili, who had been desperately trying to
26:10
contact her strange groupmate in the weeks
26:12
before her death, but the two would
26:14
never have a chance to make peace. There
26:17
was no closure at all. I
26:19
just cried all night. I
26:22
cried all night, NonStop. I
26:24
just couldn't believe it. I think so
26:27
many things were going through me, like why
26:31
and how, and you know, not being
26:33
able to reach her before she left. It
26:35
was just rough. The following
26:38
morning, Tien and Chili made the toughest
26:40
trip of their lives to visit Lisa's
26:42
mother, Wanda Lopez. When
26:45
her mom came out and looked like she almost passed out
26:47
because she's used to saying all three of us together, It's
26:49
hard for her to see just two of us
26:51
and not her daughter sitting in between, or anything
26:53
I say is one is missing, one is missing,
26:56
you know. And I had to leave the room, because
26:58
that was just it was like tearing me up. On
27:01
May two, a public memorial
27:04
was held for Lisa at the New Birth Missionary
27:06
Baptist Church outside Atlanta. More
27:08
than fifteen thousand friends, family,
27:11
and fans gathered to say goodbye.
27:15
The outpouring of love from
27:17
around the country. Um was
27:20
just amazing. In a testament to Lisa,
27:22
I didn't care who was there. I
27:24
wasn't even looking around. All I could think about
27:27
was she's not here. I
27:29
didn't get a chance to talk to her. I didn't get a
27:31
chance to say, well, I love you, have a safe
27:33
trip. I'll talk to you when you get back.
27:38
Lisa was laid to rest in a lakeside
27:40
plotted nearby hill and Dale Memorial Gardens.
27:43
Inscribed on the tombstone is her signature
27:45
inspirational rhyme from Waterfalls.
27:50
She looked at it like it was no way
27:52
that you could kill life's energy. It
27:54
just transformed into
27:56
something different. And the
27:58
first thing that I remember thinking when
28:00
she died was that, like, Wow, she
28:03
made her transformation. I personally
28:06
do not believe in death, you
28:08
know, I believe in transformation. I
28:10
do believe that there is an afterlife found
28:12
out a chance to see her once more. I probably wouldn't
28:15
even ask her some of the things that I that
28:17
I wanted to ask her at the time. I
28:19
would just tell her that I love her. Despite
28:23
the loss, Tiana and Chili would have little
28:26
time to grieve. Immediately
28:28
after Lisa's death, Aris to President
28:30
L A. Reid told the girls he was planning the Greatest
28:33
Hits LPA, a move that would put
28:35
the brakes on their new album.
28:38
We didn't start that project together, you
28:41
know, for it to just kind of basically
28:43
just be thrown out the window. And here's
28:45
the greatest hits. Why would we put the greatest
28:47
hits out? You know, we want to finish
28:49
the record. So, oh
28:52
yeah, we were very pissed. If she was
28:54
upset, she probably had a right to be. We as the label
28:56
probably had one thing in mind for
28:58
them. They had their own idea for it.
29:00
And you know, the only thing I could say
29:03
is that she's probably right
29:06
to nullify aristas plan. Tian
29:08
and Chile went straight back to work on three
29:10
D, piecing together new music
29:12
with rhymes Lisa had recorded before her
29:14
death. Almost immediately,
29:17
Tian and producer Rodney Jerkins penned
29:19
a delicate song of hope and remembrance
29:21
called Turntable. What
29:24
I thought was important to express was that
29:26
you can have hard times, but after
29:28
rain, sun will come out again.
29:30
You know, you have good days, um
29:33
and it can happen, you know tables
29:37
in turn, you have to keep living.
29:40
For four months, TLC remained quietly
29:42
sequestered in the studio. Their
29:45
first public appearance without Lisa would
29:48
come August twenty nine that the MTV Video
29:50
Music Awards. That
29:53
was one of the hardest things
29:55
I've ever had to do period ever. That
29:58
was the first time we you know, really
30:00
talked about it and kind of had to face
30:03
it again in front of everybody,
30:06
And to get out there in front of everybody to try
30:08
to talk about that, I mean, it was just the hardest
30:10
thing in the world. This is so hard
30:12
because it's such a reality check because
30:14
it's only two of us up here. For
30:17
so many years there was three of them. So if
30:19
you look, you know, you see tea, bows and chili, and
30:22
I think everybody kind of just would go down
30:24
with their eyes and it's like there's that third slop
30:26
that's missing. We know that Lisa's smiling,
30:29
and we just hope that she's proud of us right now,
30:32
thank you. One
30:35
month later, in September of two thousand
30:37
two, TLC released their final studio
30:40
album three D. As
30:42
fans listened and remembered, Tan
30:44
and Chili faced a bitter sweet reality
30:46
t l C their life and love
30:49
for the past ten years was
30:51
over. In
30:53
June of two thousand three, more than one
30:56
year since the death of Lisa Lopez, t
30:58
LC took the stage at And Stadium
31:00
in New Jersey. With a sophisticated
31:03
video system projecting Lisa's image on
31:05
stage, t Bas and Chili deliver
31:07
t LC's Hallmark heads to sixty
31:10
thousand morning fans. You
31:12
could just feel the love from everybody
31:15
and just them feeling the loss
31:17
of Lisa. Now. I was
31:19
thinking, I hope I get through this show and don't
31:21
break down. We would never look
31:24
at the screens, because how
31:26
we looked at the screens, we would have just broken down on
31:28
the stage. Though the Jersey
31:30
show looks certain to be the final gig of TLC's
31:33
career, Chili and t Bos have been
31:35
pondering one last tour as
31:37
a way to say both thank you and goodbye.
31:40
But whatever happens, both girls say they
31:42
will never be another third member
31:45
right after her death, I got letters in the mail from
31:47
fans talking about um
31:50
sorry for her death, but I can wrap the
31:52
cycle. We couldn't believe people
31:55
would ask us that, are you guys going to replace
31:57
Lisa? You know what about another
31:59
member are in. It's just hard
32:01
our feelings because we would never
32:03
do anything like that. It was never a consideration
32:06
where somebody, you know, like Desse's child and
32:09
it's just revolving door of girls coming in and
32:11
out. Tails was different. There was no replacing
32:13
any of them
32:15
for the Lopez family, letting go as a
32:17
daily task of unthinkable heartache
32:20
and loving remembrance. In
32:22
May of two thousand three, the Honduran
32:25
government honored Lisa with a monument, and
32:27
a small cross has been erected at the crash
32:29
site. Under the guidance of the
32:31
Lopez family, plans are now underway
32:33
for the Lisa Lopez Community Center
32:36
near her beloved Usha village. You
32:39
know, I'm grateful that I can try
32:41
to Hondure so much and be you know,
32:43
I feel like I'm close to at least loved, and I'm close
32:45
to my sister down there. And the more time
32:47
I spend down there is like the more I can
32:49
understand why my sister was down there. However
32:52
tragic, the blow, life must go on.
32:55
For the surviving members of TLC. In
32:58
early two thousand four, they began and compiling
33:00
TLC Now and Forever, a
33:03
nineteen song retrospective of their storied
33:05
career. For Chilian t Bas,
33:07
assembling the set was a bittersweet trip
33:10
through ten magical years of friendship
33:12
and song. I
33:14
felt like I was reliving everything and
33:16
just kind of moving on through the years, and so
33:20
it was hard for me to listen to it because
33:25
to me, greatest hits, your greatest
33:27
hits, that represents the end. That's
33:29
you know, that's it and
33:32
for us, you know that's that's
33:34
really the case, that's the reality. Now
33:38
and Forever buttons a career of staggering
33:40
sales success, but t LC's
33:43
legacy runs far deeper than any platinum
33:45
single. With style,
33:48
grace, and a little bit of drama, t
33:50
Bas Chilian Left Eye proved
33:52
that the world can be conquered without
33:55
compromise. I
33:57
just wish that more of the young
34:00
acts that came out today, and I see so
34:02
many of them, could just have one
34:04
tenth of the spirit that
34:06
the girls in TLC had. They
34:09
were so genuine and so kind and loved
34:11
what they did and looked you in the eye. They
34:13
made a connection with you. TLC was a perfect
34:15
example of a group that just stayed that
34:17
way even through all the turmoil.
34:20
Even now. That's what I means.
34:24
You know, we were translators as far as our sound,
34:26
the way we dressed and everything. We opened
34:28
up the doors for a
34:30
lot of female groups. So
34:32
I'm hoping that you know, everybody will remember
34:35
that about us. All.
34:38
You know, gave us each other. He
34:40
gave us this wonderful group, and it's just time
34:42
to let it be. You
34:45
know, we've done great things again. You
34:48
made history. You will remember
34:50
t LC and that's why we named
34:52
it TLC now forever, because we
34:54
are forever. You won't forget us m
34:57
HM. TLC's
35:04
legacy lives on today. They
35:06
remain one of the highest selling female pop
35:08
groups of all time. After
35:10
Lopez is passing, t Bas and Chili
35:13
took some time to recalibrate during
35:15
a musical hiatus. The two remaining
35:17
members of TLC each dealt with their
35:20
fair share of hardships, but both
35:22
persevered in After
35:25
more than ten years apart, the duo
35:27
reunited and launched a campaign
35:29
to crowdfund their fifth album, TLC.
35:32
In three short days, they surpassed
35:34
their goal by two hundred and fifty thousand
35:37
dollars. This album became
35:39
the biggest funded pop music project
35:41
in kickstarters history. They
35:43
released their crowdfunded album with
35:46
the single way Back featuring Snoop
35:48
Dogg, t Bas and Chili are
35:50
back in the studio and out in the world
35:52
performing. Even in the midst
35:54
of this comeback, the two vow to never
35:57
replace Lopez. There is
35:59
no doubt this trio's influence
36:01
on pop music will be felt for generations
36:04
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