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#243 - In Black and White

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Uk. Welcome.

1:10

To Murder Model. Today

1:16

I'm standing on Rathbone Street

1:18

in fits Rovian doubly one.

1:23

Three streets east of the deadly soap

1:25

of George Antonio. One.

1:27

Street west of the Charlotte Street Robbery. To.

1:31

Street south of the scattered body

1:33

parts by Louis Vaccine. And

1:36

a short walk from the Crying Weasel.

1:40

Going Sue The Murder Mile.

1:46

Situated on the corner of Rathbone Street

1:48

in Charlotte Place. Is the Duke

1:50

of York Pop? a

1:53

decent little boobs frequented by locals as

1:55

most of the tourists when likely to

1:57

pass it Licenced

2:01

in 1757, he was

2:04

named after the younger brother of George III. But

2:08

above the door, you

2:10

may notice a portrait which resembles

2:13

a very different Duke of York. An

2:17

alleged Randy Royal, a noble

2:19

nonce, and a tax-paying Bido,

2:22

possibly owing to his inability to

2:24

sweat, had to warm

2:26

up his torture by

2:29

bothering a young girl's futh. Which

2:35

is not to say, but just because someone

2:37

is infamous for one thing, that's

2:40

all they'll ever do. The

2:45

same could be said for the murder which occurred

2:47

here, as on

2:49

the night of Friday 12 December 1969, during

2:53

the height of apartheid and the demise of

2:55

the British Empire. A

2:58

fight occurred between two groups of black

3:00

and white males, during

3:03

which a young boy lost his life.

3:08

But why? Depending

3:13

on whose side was taken, when this particular

3:15

story was told, this

3:17

could be seen as a struggle against

3:20

oppression, racism and prejudice, or

3:23

simply an all-too-tragically familiar tale

3:25

about arrogance, a temper, a

3:28

simple spark, and a bunch

3:30

of idiots who were drunk. But

3:34

what was its origin? My

3:38

name is Michael, I am your

3:41

tour guide, and this is

3:43

Murder Mile. Episode

3:46

243, in black and white. Sentenced

4:03

to life for murder,

4:06

19-year-old Sosarendran Moodley, who

4:08

most of his friends called Sosan, wasn't

4:11

the kind of person you'd expect to be

4:13

convicted of murdering a young man. But

4:16

he was. Born

4:21

on the 11th of June 1950, Sosan

4:24

was one of four children, Todoia

4:26

a housewife and a

4:28

ballastundrum, a schoolmaster. Raised

4:33

in the South African city of Johannesburg, during

4:36

the tender dry height of the brutal

4:38

apartheid, as

4:40

a family of African and Asian origin, they

4:43

saw the extremities of wealth and poverty,

4:45

freedom and oppression, in

4:48

a country deeply

4:50

divided between blacks

4:52

and whites. As the youngest,

4:55

Sosan always looked up to his older brother,

4:57

Castri, and

5:00

as they grew up, becoming fine young

5:02

men who were both six feet tall and

5:04

pencil thin, they

5:06

were often mistaken for one another, with

5:09

the only way to tell them apart, being

5:11

that Castri had a neat little mustache, and

5:14

Sosan didn't. Johannesburg

5:19

in the 1950s and 60s was

5:21

a difficult time to be black, let

5:24

alone an Indian immigrant. Having

5:28

left school aged fifteen, Sosan

5:30

worked as an apprentice printer at Golden

5:32

Era Printing in the city, earning

5:36

himself a decent wage, and a

5:38

set of skills which will put him in good stead

5:40

for the future. He

5:44

was good, decent, and

5:47

very little hot tempered, he

5:49

never got into any bother with the police. earlier,

6:01

the South African Native National Congress

6:04

was established as a black nationalist

6:06

organization and a political party with

6:09

a mission to maintain the

6:12

voting rights of colors, being persons

6:14

of mixed race and black

6:16

Africans in the Cape Province. Renamed

6:21

the African National Congress, the

6:25

ANC would spearhead the fight to

6:27

eradicate apartheid and South

6:30

Africa's policy of racial separation

6:32

and discrimination. Across

6:35

the next seven decades, they would

6:37

fight hard and many would die. But

6:41

with apartheid finally quashed in 1990. Four

6:45

years later, ANC President

6:47

Nelson Mandela was

6:49

elected to head South Africa's

6:51

first multi-ethnic government, changing

6:54

the nation forever. In

7:00

1963, aged

7:02

24, southern's older brother,

7:05

Castri, came to the UK to study.

7:09

Obtaining a general certificate of

7:11

education from the Elliott School

7:13

in Pudny, although he returned

7:15

home to undertake a degree at the

7:17

University of Durban. As

7:20

an anti-apartheid activist, he

7:22

quit in 1967 for what

7:25

he called political reasons. Obtaining

7:32

a visa, in 1968, he married,

7:34

he moved to Fulham and

7:37

as a translator for political

7:39

organizations like Amalgamated Protections on

7:41

Oxford Street and later

7:43

the United Association for the Protection

7:45

of Trade in Burner Street. When

7:49

charged for his only known crime, the

7:52

police report stated, he

7:54

is an active member of the African

7:56

National Congress, the

7:59

Jim Rackins. they wrote. The

8:01

Black Panthers. And

8:08

that was part of the problem. Miscommunication.

8:17

By 1969, when the murder took place,

8:21

people in South Africa knew the

8:23

difference between the African National Congress

8:26

and the Black Panthers. The

8:29

Black Nationalist Organization, headed up by

8:31

Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale

8:33

in California. But

8:36

here, most British people

8:38

didn't see the difference between them. Especially

8:42

as our government and the press were

8:45

still supporting apartheid. From

8:50

1960, with the ANC

8:53

banned by the entirely white South

8:55

African government, and

8:57

with Britain being one of South Africa's

8:59

biggest trading partners and investors, the

9:02

ANC were forced to become an

9:04

underground political movement. For

9:10

Kestri, London's West End was

9:12

key to the ANC's struggle. If

9:17

you walk down any of those streets today, you

9:20

won't see a single memorial to its past.

9:24

But across a few streets in Fitzrovia, through

9:26

the 1960s, it

9:29

was a political hotbed of the Black

9:31

Freedom Movement. A

9:35

discreet little plant above 24 Good

9:37

Street was the secret

9:39

headquarters of the South African Communist

9:41

Party in exile. 39

9:45

Good Street was where the African

9:47

Communist Quarterly was printed, miniaturized and

9:50

then smuggled overseas. The

9:53

upper two floors of 89 Charlotte

9:55

Street were the offices of the

9:57

anti-apartheid movement. before

10:00

moving to their infamous offices at nearby

10:02

28 Penton Street. Directly

10:06

opposite, the Duke of York pub was

10:09

the ANC's London headquarters at 48 Rathbone

10:11

Street. And

10:16

yet for Sozin, he

10:18

only came to London to be a printer.

10:27

Arriving on a work visa at Heathrow Airport on the 11th of August

10:30

1968, 15 months before the murder. Even

10:36

the police report describes Sozin as

10:39

a man of sober habits and a good character. And

10:43

unlike many others who were caught up in

10:45

this deadly incident, although

10:47

he is known to associate with members

10:50

of the ANC, such as

10:52

his friends and his brother, he

10:55

is not a member of the organization. Brackets.

10:59

Blood power. Getting

11:06

a place at the London College of Printing in

11:08

Borough High Street. One

11:10

year later, Sozin qualified as a

11:12

print manager. Financially

11:16

aided by his father to ensure that he

11:18

would never be broke or hungry. In

11:21

September 1969, he

11:23

attended a 12-week course in linotyping at

11:26

a college in King's Cross. He

11:30

wasn't political and he wasn't radical.

11:34

He was just a young lad in a new country,

11:36

looking for work as a printer. And

11:42

yet in a fight between a group of blacks

11:44

and whites, he

11:46

stabbed an unarmed youth to death. In

11:56

his book, London Recruits, The

11:58

Secret War Against Apartheid. Ronnie

12:02

Caswells, an ex-leader of the

12:04

ANC's military wing, described

12:06

how, after Nelson Mandela was

12:08

jailed for life in 1964, this

12:12

spelt the nadir of the liberation struggle.

12:16

So a group commander was formed to

12:18

plan daring acts of demonstration that the

12:20

ANC was not that, including

12:24

the broadcast of anti-apartheid messages, as

12:27

well as one of their most infamous tactics, bombs.

12:34

Only these were not designed to kill or

12:36

maim. ANC

12:40

recruit Eddie Adams described his training

12:43

like this. In

12:45

an empty office on Charlotte Street, Ronnie

12:48

and I crouched behind some desks while

12:50

he explained what we called leaflet

12:53

bombs. These

12:56

consisted of a plastic bucket with a platform, piled

12:59

with propaganda leaflets, over

13:01

a tube which had explosives in it. When

13:06

triggered, it would send leaflets a hundred

13:08

feet into the air, injuring

13:11

no one, causing what the British

13:13

would term as a bit of a rumpus and

13:17

educating as many onlookers as possible.

13:22

But as an illegal political organisation,

13:25

hiding in a pro-apartheid country, they

13:29

played a dangerous game with dangerous people who

13:32

wanted to keep them under surveillance or

13:34

silenced for good. As

13:38

from 1976 to 1994, 140 Gower Street, just two

13:40

streets over, was the headquarters of the

13:46

British Secret Service. And

13:49

200 Gower Street was the home of BOSS, the

13:53

South African Bureau of State Security,

13:56

the secret police. Eyes

14:01

were everywhere, ears were eavesdropping,

14:05

and they didn't know who they could trust. So

14:08

it was no surprise in 1961 that the

14:11

headquarters of the anti-apartheid movement

14:13

was bombed. Then

14:18

in 1982, 13 years

14:20

after the murder, the

14:23

South African secret police exploded a

14:25

24-pound bomb in

14:27

the new offices of the ANC on

14:29

Panton Street. Killing

14:34

no one, injuring a janitor,

14:37

and destroying a wall, it

14:40

sent an all too subtle message that they were

14:42

being watched, and

14:44

were very much under threat. So

14:53

it's no surprise that the ANC's

14:55

offices on the first floor of 48 Rathbun

14:58

Street were so discreet.

15:03

Situated opposite the Duke of York pub, beside

15:06

a hotel, and along from the eateries

15:08

on Charlotte Place, this

15:11

vague brown brick corner building had three

15:13

doors leading up to its three higher

15:16

floors. But

15:18

with no signs, no posters, and no flags,

15:21

it just looked like any other office in

15:23

this dark little corner of the city. It

15:27

could have been anything, a

15:29

store room, a help group, a

15:31

charity, or an accountant's. And

15:35

not being an ANC member, Sosnent

15:38

was not known to frequent these offices, as

15:41

the nearest he ever came to

15:43

them, was to pay a visit to the pub for a pint with

15:45

his pals, who were regulars. Also

15:52

from Johannesburg, 31-year-old

15:54

Sakheparakash Nannan was a

15:56

married man with three children in South Africa, who

16:00

He worked as a teacher at Wellston High School

16:02

and was the clerk for Abulai Fischurens. And

16:07

as a more militant member of the ANC's

16:09

London group. Although

16:11

he wasn't the biggest, the boldest, the

16:14

bravest, but was often the most vocal.

16:18

He wore the easily identifiable uniform of

16:20

the Black Panther Party, the

16:23

black leather jacket and the black beret. And

16:29

whereas Nannon was all mouth and no

16:31

trousers, Linda

16:33

Moore was too often all fists

16:36

and no brains. Born

16:41

in Queenstown, 27 year old

16:43

Linda was described as aggressive and bullish.

16:48

An aimless thug with two criminal convictions

16:50

for theft and assault, was

16:52

expelled from Blythe Woods Institution for

16:54

political reasons, struggled

16:57

to hold down jobs, illegally

16:59

arrived in the UK with no passport

17:01

in 1967 and

17:04

lived by himself in a small

17:06

poorly furnished room in Islington as

17:09

paid for by National Assistants. Just

17:15

like Susan, they had their own

17:17

reasons to be in London. At

17:20

that time when acts of rebellion,

17:22

marches and demonstrations were rife. And

17:26

yet their ANC membership didn't

17:28

automatically mean that everything they said

17:30

or did was

17:32

politically motivated. Friday

17:42

12th December, 1969 There

17:48

was a year of huge highs and low lows. As

17:52

Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, the

17:55

ANC held its first conference in exile.

17:58

The House of Lords voted for the House of Lords. to abolish

18:00

the death penalty and

18:02

Chicago police killed two members of the

18:04

Black Panther Party. But

18:08

for Sosen it marked the

18:10

end of his linotyping course. As

18:20

a six-foot South African Asian who

18:22

was pencil thin and dressed in a blue suit

18:24

with a white raking dole, Sosen

18:27

stuck out of the crowd. But

18:30

then he had no reason to hide as

18:32

he was an artist, not an agitator. Being

18:37

well-mannered, he handed his teachers

18:39

a present as a thank you. And

18:42

keen to mark the end of his education, he

18:44

bought a bottle of whiskey from the off-license, even

18:47

though he wasn't much of a drinker. Sosen

18:52

would later state, I'd

18:55

been celebrating. I had a

18:57

fair number of drinks. I

19:00

arrived at the Duke of York pub

19:02

at 7.30pm, where

19:04

we met his brother Kastry, Kastry's

19:06

wife Mel, his pal

19:08

Setia and several others. Situated

19:13

on the posing corners of Charlotte Place, the

19:17

Duke of York pub may have

19:19

been barely eight feet from the ANC

19:21

headquarters in the heart of the Black

19:23

Freedom movement. But

19:26

this area, not being known for

19:28

just one thing, was

19:31

also part of London's film district, its

19:34

second hand jewelry quarter, The

19:36

Haven for Abadashes, and

19:38

many of its pubs were infamous haunts

19:40

of radical writers. Not

19:46

being activists, Sosen

19:48

and his pals had no reason to pop

19:50

into the ANC HQ. So

19:53

as planned, they popped into

19:55

the Duke of York pub where they were regulars,

19:58

and of the 30 people who were in the pub, But in there, no

20:01

one was a total stranger. Racially,

20:09

the mood across the city was no better or

20:11

worse than usual. With

20:14

the ramifications of the 1958 Notting Hill

20:16

race ride still felt, as

20:19

well as the 1966 rides in Cleveland, and

20:22

several major rides were bubbling under

20:25

in Brixton, Toxeter, with

20:27

Broadwater Farm and Chapel Town. But

20:31

this was just a pub. The

20:44

Duke of York was a small

20:47

corner pub with doors on Charlotte Street

20:49

and Rathbone Place, barely 20 feet apart.

20:53

Dominated by a semicircular bar with bench

20:55

seats around the edge and pockmarked with

20:57

little tables and chairs. It

21:00

has a jukebox which played all the latest hits.

21:03

Like Marvin Gaye's I heard it

21:05

through the grapevine and Ziggy Stardust's

21:07

Space Oddity. With

21:10

a pinball machine on the football table out

21:12

back. As

21:17

always, being a

21:19

Friday night, which for many was payday, the

21:22

bar was busy. With

21:25

shoulders rubbing against shoulders, an

21:27

occasional bit of ajibaji, and

21:30

no spare seats for any late comers. As

21:35

a regular pub, everyone split

21:37

into groups. With

21:40

a table of white youths, a

21:42

table of black youths, a gaggle

21:44

of old geezers at the bar. No

21:47

solo groups of girls drinking Lambrini, as

21:50

unaccompanied women were banned from pubs until the

21:52

1970s. But

21:55

a mixed group of lads playing snooker, as

21:58

often sport, will bring people together. There

22:05

were many witnesses to what had happened that night,

22:09

most of whom were white. And

22:13

although the police report makes it clear

22:16

which of the South Africans were members

22:18

of the ANC or associated with members

22:20

of the ANC, no

22:24

one else's political views were investigated,

22:27

and there were several criminals. At

22:33

the bar, Peter Llewellyn Jones had

22:35

served two years for smuggling drugs in Spain,

22:39

and having fled the country, he

22:41

was wanted by the Greek police and convicted

22:43

by a court in Athens to three years

22:45

for drug smuggling. George

22:49

Haden was imprisoned for Nick and Petrel, Fred

22:52

Atabee for pilfering clothes, Melvin

22:55

Goodins had stolen a car, and

22:58

civil Boer had persistently opportune

23:01

male persons for immoral purposes.

23:06

Behind the bar, John Dellum had

23:08

been convicted of possession of an offensive

23:11

weapon, and the

23:13

assistant manager John Moore was, wait

23:16

for it, find

23:18

ten pounds for stealing a tomato

23:21

sauce dispenser. But

23:25

then again, just because

23:27

someone is infamous for something they've done,

23:31

it doesn't mean that that's all they do. At

23:39

9.15pm, a group of white

23:41

youths came in and sat at

23:43

a vacated table by the door. Two

23:48

students, Nicholas Clark and Michael Flanagan,

23:51

Roseanne Barry a typist, Pauline

23:54

Batson, a trainee dental nurse, all

23:56

of whom were aged 16 to 19. followed

24:00

by Philip Kent, a printer, and

24:03

his bespectacled brother, Robert, the

24:07

young man who would be murdered. The

24:14

atmosphere was typical for a Friday night, as

24:18

Michael told the police. Philip

24:20

and Nicholas had a game with two colored men

24:22

on the football machine, as

24:25

everyone else sat drinking and chatting. Robert

24:31

and Sulsen sat by opposite doors, and

24:34

as far as we know they hadn't met or

24:36

spoken. But

24:40

at 9.50pm, the

24:42

mood abruptly changed. Into

24:52

the pub, walked Linda in

24:54

a dark brown suit, and

24:57

Nannon in his black panther berry. As

25:01

they pushed and shoved their way in, causing

25:04

drinks to spill, voices to

25:06

raise, and almost every

25:08

witness to agree that they were determined

25:10

to cause trouble. After

25:15

Peter the drugs smuggler perched at the bar, Linda

25:18

and Nannon faced him down when he

25:21

wouldn't or couldn't budge over to

25:23

give them a little more space. But

25:26

was this a racist act, a

25:29

principle, or a matter of

25:31

logistics for Peter, Linda, or Nannon? As

25:37

Linda grabbed Peter by the lapel and shouted in

25:39

his face, although

25:41

several men of different the

25:44

age of whoever had a similar

25:46

skin tone to them. Before

25:49

it kicked off, the landlord had

25:51

split up the group, and

25:53

even though Linda had invited Peter outside

25:55

for a fight, the

25:58

incident was over. It

26:04

seemed like nothing, an

26:07

insignificant little moment, which

26:09

happens in a pub, on every week,

26:11

in every city. As

26:13

someone who's had too much to drink tries

26:15

to take on another drunk for a pointless

26:17

purpose. But

26:21

as fast as the anger had quelled, it

26:24

erupted just as quick. Sosen

26:32

stated, Linda jumped

26:34

on my table, and

26:36

launching himself from a bench, he

26:39

began to fight with the other brother, by

26:41

which he meant Philip Kent. Why?

26:47

We don't know. Because

26:49

everything went into chaos. Philip

26:53

broke a glass on Linda's head, Sosen said,

26:56

and then suddenly, everyone was

26:59

fighting. As

27:03

Robert stepped in to protect his brother, Sosen

27:06

said, I didn't pay much

27:08

attention, until the two white

27:10

brothers came over and joined in the

27:12

quarrel. I

27:14

then got up, I went over, and

27:17

I tried to stop the fight. The

27:21

brother with the glasses pinned my arms behind

27:23

me, this being Robert, as

27:26

the melee continued in the bar, with

27:29

bottles being smashed, benches being

27:32

thrown, and Michael being

27:34

hurled across the table. As

27:38

all the while, Nannon made a swift

27:40

exit, and Peter the

27:42

drug smuggler, who some said had

27:44

incited it, was ignored.

27:49

With the action reported by Rosemary and

27:52

Pauline, who had wisely sought refuge by

27:54

the ladies' toilets, the

27:57

police stated, there was little doubt that he would be able

27:59

to get out of the room. It was the Cullitz who were

28:01

the aggressors, with

28:03

the ringleader being Linda who stood

28:05

on the bar to kick Robert in the face. And

28:09

as the boy fell to the floor, Linda

28:12

repeatedly kicked him as he lay bleeding, and

28:16

seeing another victim, Linda moved

28:18

on to Michael to do the same. And

28:23

although Sudden and Robert were only

28:25

participants on the periphery, it was

28:30

the defendant, this happened, and

28:32

nobody knows why. From

28:39

his pocket, Sudden pulled a

28:41

six-inch knife. Whether

28:45

he carried it for self-defense, as

28:47

a souvenir, for a friend, or

28:50

as a tool of his trade being an artist, neither

28:54

was suggested in the police report. With

28:59

a pop in panic, only

29:01

a few saw the weapon, only

29:03

a handful heard the girl scream, He's got

29:05

a knife. And

29:07

although Robert ordered him to put the knife away,

29:11

in a single fast swipe, Sudden

29:14

confessed, I then stabbed the

29:16

white boy with the glasses. Then

29:19

he fell to the floor. And

29:23

although at their point, almost

29:25

everybody ran, even

29:28

though Robert was unconscious and bleeding

29:30

profusely, again

29:33

Linda kicked him and

29:35

then fled. The

29:50

police arrived three minutes later. But

29:54

with the landlord having cleaned up, the

29:56

pop didn't look that bad. By

29:59

the broken glass. The blood, the

30:01

screaming howl, and Robert

30:03

who lay silent. Nannon

30:08

was detained on sight. Linda

30:10

was arrested at the ANC offices, and

30:13

Sutton was apprehended just two streets away,

30:17

with a knife given to her friend quickly

30:19

found. At

30:23

the Middlesex hospital, having

30:25

suffered a single stab wound just above

30:28

his right ear, so

30:30

much force had been used that the

30:32

blade had sliced through his 7mm thick

30:34

skull and penetrated

30:36

his temporal lobe, resulting

30:39

in a massive hemorrhage. More

30:44

meat later, Robert

30:46

died of his injuries and

30:48

Sutton was charged with his murder. Tried

30:54

at the Old Bailey on the 18th of June 1970. Of

30:58

those involved in the fight, only

31:00

the black men were convicted, with

31:04

Castrian Nannon sentenced to a 6

31:06

month suspended sentence. Linda

31:09

sent down for 6 months for

31:11

assault. But

31:14

with Robert's blood on the blade, Sutton's

31:16

fingerprints on the handle, an

31:19

ID parade identifying him as the killer,

31:22

and later confessing. I

31:24

stabbed the white boy. I'm sorry I

31:26

stabbed him. 19

31:29

year old trainee printer, Sosa rendered moodily

31:31

of South Africa, was

31:34

sentenced to a knife in prison. But

31:39

with the witness statements being such a

31:41

confusing mess, the Peter

31:43

identified the killer as Sosa's

31:45

brother, Kastri. And

31:48

with the crime scene having been cleaned up, and

31:51

neither man having met before, no

31:55

one could explain the motive for the killing.

31:59

Not their friends. Not their family,

32:02

nor Sousa himself. Was

32:06

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greenlight.com/podcast. Oh,

34:32

there we go. Oh,

34:36

oh, fuck. Oh, that's

34:39

going to be a Peter edit. And why is it

34:41

a Peter edit? Because of one bird, one

34:44

bird, one effing bird is outside the

34:46

boat and is having a good old

34:48

chirp. Even though it's wet outside, it's

34:50

like, oh yeah, chirp, chirp, chirp. Yeah,

34:53

oh, oh, listen, look at me everyone.

34:56

Look at me, chirp, chirp, chirp. A

34:58

little bastard. A little bastard. Even the

35:00

coot at the decency to not

35:02

be massively annoying. I

35:04

mean, he was annoying, but you know, not

35:07

as normal as he usually is. Oh,

35:10

dear. So there we go. What time

35:12

is it? Quarter to two.

35:14

Right, good. Welcome to Extra Mile

35:16

everyone. The unscripted, unedited bit.

35:20

We will do some quiz questions. I

35:22

don't really need to make a cup of tea. I've already

35:24

kind of got half of a coffee going. I'm going to

35:26

go to the coffee shop in a bit anyway. I've

35:29

got two coffee shops. Two are the same

35:31

coffee shops right next to me now. I'm

35:33

literally, one is a three,

35:37

four minute walk away and the other one is a four

35:39

to five minute walk away. Now, I've never understand why they

35:41

do that. Really doesn't make any sense.

35:44

So yeah, unscripted bit and then we'll do some quiz

35:46

questions and now I'm going to dive into some extra

35:48

stuff because with this episode, I

35:51

pieced it all together and I was going to dive

35:53

into all the stuff after they were arrested. But

35:56

then I realised that the focus on the story should

35:58

really have just been the reason, the most. for

36:00

the murder itself so that's what we focus on so

36:02

we're gonna do that so uh it's

36:05

all go isn't it it's all go

36:07

it's pissing down outside lovely luckily i've

36:10

got enough coal uh i'm

36:12

gonna have the fire on later on which

36:14

is all very nice all geared up for

36:17

tomorrow tomorrow as of time of recording is

36:19

valentine's day so obviously lots of

36:21

gifts for Eva lots of gifts i bought

36:23

her a distillery uh so she can just

36:26

put a straw in through the window and

36:28

just do what she needs to do uh

36:31

i'm gonna be her loyal slave for the day

36:33

i am for every day but you know she

36:35

likes to know that i'm her loyal slave so i

36:38

so every day i send her a

36:40

note saying i'm your loyal slave do with me what

36:42

you will and she does she does uh

36:45

so that's all good oh um

36:48

we're doing this a regular thing so myself

36:50

Adam from UK true crime and Paul from

36:52

true crime enthusiasts we do a round table

36:54

discussion every sunday it's live it goes out

36:57

on on youtube so you can check it

36:59

on that there's a link on my social

37:01

media you could do that it's free it's

37:03

an hour it's a chat uh there's a

37:05

little chat box in there so you can

37:07

send messages to us and questions which is

37:09

good people like to interact that's good uh

37:12

we we get some nice guests in so

37:14

yeah if you fancy doing that please do

37:16

i think i think we also upload it

37:19

to to the social media as well so you

37:21

can enjoy that as well if you like uh

37:24

what else has happened not much is going on

37:26

in my life except i i was boxing up

37:28

some mugs the other day because i'd had a

37:30

nice meeting in town with some people and i

37:32

wanted to send them a murder mile mug of

37:34

goodies and what i always do is

37:36

open up the box which had been there for about a year

37:39

and i opened it up just to

37:41

check that the mug's okay and it's the right

37:43

mug on the inside and when i opened up

37:45

there was a little spider having having his winter

37:47

holiday he was in there he'd

37:49

made a little nest uh he got

37:51

uh his food was there so the the uh

37:54

a fly that he was eating and i was

37:56

like i'm glad i checked this before i sent

37:58

it off so there we go so

38:00

Someone has today will have received a nice

38:02

mug only without a spider in it.

38:04

So there we go. Always good. Wow Michael

38:06

your life is so exciting isn't it? Yes

38:09

it is. Whoa I wonder

38:11

what excitement will happen next week. Probably

38:14

nothing. Let's do some

38:16

quiz questions and then we'll dive into some extra

38:19

stuff. So get ready. Don't forget I'll do the

38:21

answers at the very end and I haven't edited

38:23

the first part of the episode yet. So I

38:25

may take things out of the episode which means

38:27

you can't answer the question or I might just

38:29

balls them up by mistake but this is on

38:32

it. Thank God. So there we

38:34

go. Question number one. In

38:36

which part of west London is Rathbone

38:39

Street in? I.e.

38:41

Wardle Street is in Soho so which

38:43

part part of west London is Rathbone

38:45

Street in? There you go. Oh

38:48

really burpy today. Question

38:53

number two. The Duke of York pub

38:55

is named after the brother of which

38:59

English king? There

39:02

we go. Question number three. Whose face

39:05

is on the sign outside of the pub? Question

39:10

number four. What job did Sosen's

39:12

father do? Question

39:16

number five. What was the name of the printing company

39:18

where Sosen got his first job? Question

39:24

number six. Who was the first head of

39:26

South Africa's first multi-ethnic

39:29

government? That's

39:32

an easy question. Question number

39:35

seven. Kastry obtained a GCE but what

39:37

does GCE mean? Question

39:42

number

39:45

eight. What political group did the

39:47

police confuse the ANC with? I've

39:50

mentioned that about 50 times in this episode. You've got to

39:52

get that one right. Question number

39:55

nine. Sosen was qualified for what job? number

40:00

10 what 12-week course and he

40:02

just finished. So

40:06

let's dive into some of the extra stuff that's in there.

40:08

As mentioned in the start, Sultan and Kastri

40:11

are very similar to each other.

40:13

They're brothers, what do you expect? They've

40:15

got the same mother and father so they're likely

40:17

to be very similar. Which

40:20

is why at the start I kind of mentioned about the

40:22

father. Originally I was going to add this into the story

40:24

but I thought it just confused

40:26

it so I put it right at the end. But they're

40:29

very similar. They're six

40:31

foot tall, pencil thin. The only

40:34

difference is that Kastri has a

40:36

little mustache and Sultan

40:38

doesn't. So

40:40

with the... it

40:43

was actually... it was interesting. It was that

40:45

Philip dude. Have I got this here? I

40:48

thought this was it. I thought I had the

40:50

statement here. So Philip who was a drug smuggler,

40:52

who was at the bar, who's the one... it's

40:54

weird it's kind of with the story. It's kind

40:56

of him that this is where

40:58

the argy-bargy happens. That Linda and Nanan come in

41:00

and Philip's at the bar and Philip won't move over

41:03

because he's sitting on his stool and he's having a

41:05

pint. He's one of these guys who sits at the

41:07

bar and he's like, oh it's my pub. I've

41:09

bought a pint. I'm gonna nurse a shit

41:11

pint of Fosters for about four hours having

41:13

spent two quid and therefore this is my

41:15

pub because I annoy the bar staff all

41:17

the time. He seems like he's

41:19

that kind of prick. But

41:24

he actually said that he

41:26

was certain that... so he gave three statements

41:28

and on the first one he said no

41:30

no it was definitely Sultan and he knew

41:32

them. He'd... they

41:34

were both wearing entirely different clothes. Obviously

41:36

as mentioned in the episode he got

41:38

Sultan wearing a white Macintosh and a

41:40

blue suit and then he got Kastri

41:42

who was all in dark clothes. They're

41:45

both similar but one is a mustache and one doesn't

41:47

and he'd known them both for at least the last

41:49

two and a half months and he admitted that and

41:52

yet he got them wrong. Didn't

41:54

put this in the story as well but also Sultan

41:58

had some cuts on his face. We're

42:01

not too sure how he got them, it's not mentioned

42:03

in any of the police

42:05

reports or anything. But he'd, whether

42:07

it was a fight or whether he fell

42:09

or something, he got cuts on his right

42:11

cheek. So that made him even more identifiable.

42:13

But still, you had people like

42:15

Philip going, oh no, it was definitely him,

42:17

definitely him. Look,

42:21

as you can see, it was, you know, this

42:23

was the hardest thing about the episode, the pieces

42:25

together. I've made it as simple for you as

42:27

possible. But going through the police files

42:30

was an absolute nightmare, because you've got people saying,

42:33

there was a black youth did this, there was a white

42:35

guy did that. And it's like, okay,

42:37

thank you for that, that's very useful, okay. You've

42:40

got 30 people in a room, some are black,

42:42

some are white, who's who? And it's a real

42:44

nightmare, like trying to pin it down, like someone

42:46

going, yeah, there was a guy in a blue

42:48

top. Yeah, great, thank you for

42:50

that, sicko. So it's really difficult to try and pin

42:53

down who was who. So hopefully

42:55

I've got that across. But then again,

42:57

it's witness statements, isn't it? It's always

42:59

confusing, it's never accurate. People's

43:02

tempers are kind of frayed and their emotions

43:04

are high, and therefore they get things wrong.

43:06

And witness statements are only over 30% right

43:08

at best. So

43:12

luckily we had Barstaff were there, luckily some

43:14

of the girls were out back, so they were able to watch it.

43:18

One of their friends was there as well, I can't

43:20

remember who it was. But yeah, there was a real

43:22

melee going on, like people being thrown over chairs, someone

43:25

throwing, throwing

43:28

someone over tables, there was chairs being thrown at

43:30

people. But when you look at the crime scene photos,

43:32

I looked at the crime scene photos, and I

43:34

thought, I know the pub really well, because I've

43:36

drank there quite a few times. But I looked

43:39

at the crime scene photos, I thought, they

43:41

must have taken it like a couple of weeks later, because it

43:43

looks clean. But then you look

43:45

in the corner and you can see a dustpan and

43:47

brush. And the barman and the staff

43:49

had literally cleared everyone out except the guy who

43:52

was dying. And

43:54

then they sweeped up everything,

43:56

so it looks really nice and clean, so they really,

43:58

really cocked up the crime scene. crime scene

44:00

doesn't look like anything.

44:03

As mentioned, Nannon

44:05

was detained on site and

44:08

the landlord's wife, she was working that night

44:10

and she pointed to him and said he

44:12

was one of the ringleaders. As

44:15

did the, John, he was on the

44:17

bar and said he started it all, he started

44:20

punching him, I think he

44:22

was making reference to Peter there. Nannon

44:24

replied, I don't know anything about it man,

44:27

because as you know, you have to end

44:29

every sentence with man. I always hate

44:31

people who end sentence with mate. I

44:34

got a nasty email off someone ages ago and

44:36

they ended every sentence with mate and I was

44:38

like, if you don't

44:40

like me, don't call me mate, we're not mates.

44:42

It's like, I don't think fuckers

44:44

who do that anyway. What

44:47

else we got? What else we got? Fleeing from the

44:49

scene, so this is what happened. So everyone started fleeing

44:51

from the scene. Some people were arrested on site, some

44:54

people fled from the scene. So Sosen

44:57

had purchased himself a bottle of Teacher's

44:59

Highland Cream, sophisticated.

45:01

And then most

45:04

of the group actually met up in the

45:06

Cambridge and the Cambridge is a pub on

45:08

the corner of Charlotte Street in Rathbone Place.

45:10

So literally a 30 second walk away, they

45:12

congregated in there. Satya,

45:16

who was a friend of Sosen and

45:18

his brother, was

45:21

a student as well.

45:23

And where is he

45:25

said? Here we are.

45:28

I suddenly believe that Sosen may have been the person

45:30

who did the stabbing. I went to the toilet to

45:32

speak to him. In the toilet I asked him if

45:34

he had a knife. I asked him if he had

45:36

used the knife in the pub, meaning the stabbing and

45:39

he replied he had. I then asked

45:41

him to give me the knife because I didn't want

45:43

him to do anything

45:45

as into to hurt anyone else

45:47

or himself. I

45:50

felt he wasn't in his sober senses, don't

45:52

forget he doesn't normally drink. And

45:54

then he handed me the clothes knife which I put in

45:56

my pocket and went home. So Sosen

45:58

was walking around the corner of the room. on the street drinking

46:03

detective constable fenan

46:05

and temporary detective constable jones went

46:07

past john moor

46:09

who was one of the barman was in the car

46:11

with him and said that's him right there don't forget

46:13

he's here to spot his wink a

46:16

blue suit with a big collar and he's wearing

46:18

a white macintosh so he's really he's defined uh

46:21

uh robert

46:24

who was the the boy who was stabbed we

46:26

don't really know much about him i would have

46:28

done a backstory on him but there was nothing

46:30

in there nothing at all taken to

46:32

middle sex hospital which is in this same area

46:35

it's literally a street

46:37

ape it's like you could walk to

46:39

it in a minute so yeah that's

46:41

right rushed into there straight into theater

46:44

from casualty senior neurosurgeon uh

46:46

operated on him straight away he

46:48

was unconscious and breathe had to

46:51

be had to be mechanically

46:53

aided so he could breathe he'd

46:55

been stabbed in the head on the right

46:57

inside just an inch above his right ear

46:59

with a one inch wound where the knife

47:01

had gone in and it had been retracted

47:03

and you need to use a lot of force on

47:05

here because it's quite a heavy bone there and

47:08

it's roughly around seven

47:11

centimeters thick so

47:14

normally the skull protects the brain

47:16

from damage through high resistance to

47:19

deformation and it says here

47:21

that you need a force of about

47:23

one ton to reduce the diameter of

47:25

the skull by a centimeter uh

47:27

so actually it's quite a lot of force he

47:30

it's weird with um sodds and apparently

47:32

everyone said some people said they saw

47:34

him with the knife underneath his uh

47:37

his macintosh which was over his arm and

47:39

then they said it was waist height but

47:42

he stabbed him sideways into the side

47:44

of the head so um it's not

47:46

like it was an accidental stabbing

47:50

it's like this is you can't accidentally

47:52

stab someone in the head and stab

47:54

through the skull into the brain this

47:56

is a very deliberate act but if

47:59

you think about it look like this Like if he was defending himself, wouldn't

48:01

he stab him in the stomach or in

48:03

the hands or something? There was no defensive wounds at

48:06

all. But

48:08

this was a very deliberate act. This

48:10

is something that involves anger and passion.

48:12

It makes you wonder why

48:14

was it there? Why was it in the side of the head?

48:16

Not elsewhere? Not in the thigh? Not in the

48:18

groin as you'd probably expect. So

48:21

yet he was stabbed in the temporal lobe which

48:23

is the part of the brain that controls memory,

48:25

speech and comprehension but he never

48:27

regained... He remained in critical condition. He

48:29

was in the Cavendish Benting Ward for a week

48:32

and then he died of his injuries. Police

48:38

scooped everyone up and took them into

48:40

Marleybone Police Station which is over on

48:42

Seymour Street. And

48:44

basically all the witnesses were there

48:46

and it's kind of

48:49

an interesting one because you've got... As

48:51

mentioned, this is very much a story about people in

48:53

their little groups. Groups of

48:56

blacks and groups of whites and you get a few who

48:58

are kind of mixed but not really that much as kind

49:00

of everyone keeps to themselves. So the police

49:02

said that everyone in the charge room and they

49:04

were kind of process all of these witnesses. They

49:07

even said that the room wasn't

49:09

big enough to have all of the witnesses in there

49:11

so they were really struggling with that. But

49:16

yeah... Where

49:18

was it? You

49:24

have to kind of take a lot of this from the perspective

49:28

of people in that era. It

49:31

makes it hard to know exactly what the

49:33

real truth is here. Even in some of

49:35

the statements as well, with all the black

49:37

people it's kind of like they are just

49:39

known by their names and whether they're associated

49:41

with the ANC or whether they're members of

49:43

the ANC or whether they associate with members

49:45

of the ANC, that's always in there. But

49:48

no political beliefs for anyone who's white. With

49:50

all the black people it's about if

49:52

they're unemployed that's listed. But

49:56

with the white people they're always given Mr.

49:58

like Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.

50:00

Melvin Graham and Mrs. Esther Gooding. They always

50:02

get their titles and their job status. But

50:07

never anyone else. It doesn't

50:11

come off well for them because obviously everyone's

50:13

been drinking but let's read

50:15

this. This is from the police report.

50:17

It said, it should be mentioned that

50:20

whereas the white people were willing to

50:22

assist in any way they could, the

50:24

colored men refused to cooperate. Don't

50:27

forget, this also could be

50:29

part of it because they've come from

50:31

South Africa and their kind of police

50:33

force is quite brutal and impressive. Therefore,

50:36

there's been bombings by the secret police

50:38

over here, by South African groups who

50:40

were kind of here. So, do you know, they have a

50:42

reason to kind of for hatred of the police. And given

50:45

the fact that in this era, Britain

50:47

is which our police

50:49

force is funded by the taxpayers and Joe's

50:53

government controlled. Therefore, they have every right to

50:55

kind of not trust the police. So, you

50:57

can kind of understand it from that perspective there.

51:00

It says, they treated the whole

51:02

matter in a totally irresponsible manner,

51:04

shouting, singing and swearing. Sometimes in

51:06

Afrikaans, sometimes in English,

51:08

the situation deteriorated and became

51:11

intolerable. In

51:13

custody, colored men were heard to chant slogans

51:16

and on mention of

51:18

Robert's name, don't forget by

51:20

that point, he's not dead. He's critical. They

51:23

laughed uproariously and shouted, who cares

51:25

and white trash could

51:27

have happened, could not have happened. It could have been one of

51:29

them. It could have been a few of them. But don't forget,

51:31

everyone's being lumped together. So, yeah, in

51:33

these reports, it's always the colors did

51:35

this, but it could be

51:38

one. It could be a few. We just

51:40

don't know. So, it's really hard to get this. Right.

51:44

Bear in mind that a number of white

51:46

witnesses were acquainted with the colored men and

51:48

in some cases, knew them

51:50

by their name or nickname and it

51:52

could not be obviated that the both

51:54

sides may have met on their arrival

51:56

at the police station. D.I.

51:59

Parker, decided that a form

52:01

of confrontation should take place.

52:04

Each side was then individually given the

52:06

opportunity to view the other and make

52:09

comments that they felt was

52:11

relevant. That's something

52:13

that we don't do anymore, but back then you could

52:15

get a group of people in a big room and

52:17

just say, write, argue it out and

52:19

we're going to take down the notes. Obviously,

52:23

that's the way they did

52:25

it. What else have we got?

52:28

One statement, his first statement. I'm not

52:30

going to read all of his statements,

52:34

but if you're a Patreon subscriber, this

52:36

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freebie on every Thursday night. You get

53:00

these. I haven't decided what I'll do

53:02

for this, but first

53:04

statement of Saws and Woz,

53:06

and this is in its entirety and it's

53:08

short. He said, I went to the Duke

53:10

of York pub around half a state. I

53:12

saw some friends. I don't know their

53:14

names. I saw a fight between friends

53:16

of mine and a couple of guys from the pub.

53:19

They were white guys and they were fighting with my

53:21

friends. I don't know how the

53:23

fight started. I left as soon

53:25

as the fight started. My brother was

53:27

there. I left by myself. That's the

53:29

end of it as far as I'm

53:31

concerned. And that

53:33

was his statement. As

53:36

we know, it was all a

53:38

lie. But people

53:40

do that, don't they? When they're confronted, they panic

53:42

and they go, oh, nothing to do with me.

53:45

All they do that thing is to do on all the

53:49

24 hours in police custody.

53:51

No comment. No comment. No

53:53

comment. Stare at the ground. No comment.

53:56

No comment. No comment.

54:00

Oh, you just want to slap them, don't you? You just want

54:02

to slap them. Why not just say,

54:04

instead of saying no comment, why not just

54:06

say, I am guilty? Just have

54:08

done with it. That

54:11

day, so Sosam

54:14

was charged on the 12th of December in 1969

54:16

for was

54:18

actually on the 13th for making an

54:20

affray and the GBH of Robert Kent

54:22

against the peace, because Robert's still alive

54:24

by that point, Kastry

54:26

was charged again with

54:29

making an affray. In

54:31

the company of everyone who was

54:33

mentioned there, Nannon was

54:36

also charged with making an affray, which

54:38

is basically fighting. Oh,

54:40

I've got hiccups, as was Linda.

54:42

It's interesting with this that as even though people

54:44

say that Linda and Nannon were the kind of

54:46

the ringleaders and the agitators of this. And if

54:49

you think about it, if

54:51

they hadn't come in acting like they're all Billy

54:53

Big bollocks and getting all shouty and mouthy, none

54:56

of this would have happened. Kind of if this

54:58

is the way it happened with Peter, the drugs,

55:01

drug smuggler, if he would have made a little bit

55:03

of space for them. Maybe

55:06

they could have had a pint and sat down and shut up

55:08

and not been all mouthy, but we

55:10

just don't know what this is. The thing is, it's

55:12

hard to pin down who who does

55:14

what. And and as mentioned with

55:16

the the witnesses, with

55:19

with the fact that we don't know the political.

55:23

We know the political motivations of those who

55:25

associate with the ANC because the police deliberately

55:28

made an effort to kind of go, well,

55:30

these ANC members and these are people are

55:32

so, you know, even if you're not, they

55:35

don't know your political affiliations. Then they

55:37

go, well, you associated with someone to

55:40

do with the ANC. It's like, well, you know,

55:43

like I unwittingly, I could probably

55:45

say I'm I'm associated with communists

55:47

and Nazis. You know, some people

55:50

who I've probably met in my life are probably

55:52

secret Nazis or communists. But, you know, it doesn't

55:54

mean I'm and it makes it sound bad. Doesn't

55:57

it? When you say always an associate with a

55:59

communist or an. You could be,

56:01

you just might not know it, or you might

56:03

not give a fuck. Like, some

56:05

people's political beliefs, who

56:08

cares? Who really cares? The

56:11

knife, the

56:13

knife itself was found the next day,

56:16

that evening. They went to Satya's home over in

56:18

Moreland Road, over in Kenton. And

56:21

he was honest about it. He said, got

56:25

the knife, I took it

56:27

off him. Satya said, the following afternoon I opened

56:29

the knife and saw blood on the top of

56:31

the blade. The tip, I wiped

56:33

it clean with a towel. Well done there. I

56:36

found I couldn't close it again, so I put it in

56:38

the drawer. Police arrived.

56:42

They, by this point, saw something in the

56:44

door. They said to them, I did this,

56:46

I did the stabbing and I gave the

56:48

knife to my friend. Satya

56:51

said, I would like to say that I never intended to hide

56:53

the knife, only to keep it for

56:56

him until I could see him again. But obviously by

56:58

that point he didn't know that he'd been arrested. Yep,

57:04

Robert died 19th December 1969, at 8.45pm on the Cavendish Benting

57:06

Ward. Professor

57:15

Keith Simpson at Guy's Hospital did the autopsy.

57:18

Nice and simple, a simple stab wound to

57:20

the side of the head. No defensive wounds

57:22

to the hands, the wrists or the arms.

57:25

Cause of death was brain injury. Blood

57:29

found matching Roberts was

57:31

found on Sousan's jacket on the raincoat of

57:33

one of the other guys, a guy called

57:35

Littleton Bean. I've kind of erased him

57:37

from this. None

57:40

of Robert's blood was found on any of

57:42

Linda's clothes, therefore they couldn't really link him

57:44

to it either. But don't forget he didn't,

57:47

even though he was the main prick who was standing

57:49

on chairs and tables and trying to kick people in

57:51

the head and kicking people while they were down, he

57:55

wasn't the one who stabbed Robert

57:58

therefore. He

58:00

kind of gets away with this really, doesn't he?

58:03

Even though I would say that he's, even

58:05

though he ended up serving six months in prison for

58:07

GBH, I personally would have

58:09

put him away for a long time just for

58:11

being one of those pricks who turns up a

58:14

pub and decides to start a fight, if indeed

58:16

that's what happened. An

58:18

ID parade happened on the 25th of

58:21

March 1970 at 3.30pm Marleybone Police Station.

58:26

This was for Sosn, they placed

58:28

12 men of similar height, age,

58:30

general appearance and inverted commas,

58:33

class of life, whatever that means.

58:36

Sosn made the decision to stand 7th from

58:38

the left, so that's kind of more central.

58:42

And in that era, today

58:44

we do it nicely where it's kind of done

58:47

by video parade and therefore the victim doesn't have

58:49

to be traumatised by looking at someone. So back

58:53

in this era, they do it in a

58:55

parade ground or outback or something like that

58:57

and the suspect has to come along and

58:59

touch the suspect on the right shoulder and

59:02

say, this is the one, which must be

59:04

absolutely fucking terrifying. I can't believe it took

59:06

so long for the police to work out,

59:08

that that's not a good way to do

59:11

it. He

59:13

was picked out by quite a few of

59:15

the witnesses but interestingly, George Hayden

59:17

who was a witness said, I'm not too sure, as

59:20

well as Peter Llewellyn Jones who started the

59:22

whole fucking thing and knew them both for years,

59:24

who thought it was Castri,

59:27

his brother. Absolute

59:29

tit. What

59:31

else we got? The trial happened, started on the 18th of June

59:33

1970 and concluded on the 7th of July 1970,

59:39

that's when the sentences was

59:42

read. Sosn

59:46

was sentenced to life

59:48

in prison plus three years to serve

59:51

consecutively, that was because he was carrying a

59:53

blade and that was for causing an affray

59:55

and murder and part of it was served

59:57

at Wellmans Grop's prison. Casterie,

1:00:00

his brother was sentenced to six months in prison

1:00:03

but suspended for two years, i.e. meaning if he

1:00:05

didn't commit any acts over the next two years,

1:00:07

which were criminal, he wouldn't have to go to

1:00:09

prison and to pay £70 worth of costs. Nannon,

1:00:14

same, even though he was one of the agitators,

1:00:16

he got six months in prison but suspended for

1:00:19

two years, so he didn't go

1:00:21

to prison, maybe, we don't know. Mindom

1:00:25

was sentenced to six months in prison and

1:00:28

many of them were considered for deportation

1:00:30

but we don't know whether they were

1:00:32

deported. So, deported, not deported,

1:00:35

so therefore we don't know much more

1:00:37

about that. Robert was

1:00:39

cremated at Golders Green Cemetery on the 2nd

1:00:41

January 1970. Think

1:00:45

that's it, I think that is it folks, I

1:00:47

think that is a yes that's it, I've been

1:00:49

waffled for too long. So let's answer

1:00:52

the quiz questions and then I can

1:00:54

go off to the coffee shop. I've got loads

1:00:56

to do, busy busy busy busy and then I've

1:00:58

got to unblock my sink. Oh Michael, your life

1:01:00

is so exciting. Unblocking

1:01:03

your sink, fwah. So let's

1:01:05

do the quiz questions. What

1:01:07

part of West London is Rathbone Street in?

1:01:11

Fitzrovia, I probably gave that away in

1:01:13

one of the quiz questions but there we go. Question

1:01:16

number two, the Duke of York pub is named

1:01:18

after the brother of which English king?

1:01:22

George the third. Question

1:01:25

number three, whose face is on the outside of the

1:01:27

pub? It's Prince

1:01:30

Andrew, oh lovely. Makes

1:01:33

you want to have a pint there doesn't it? Question

1:01:35

number four, what job did Sousan's father

1:01:37

do? He

1:01:39

was a school master. Question

1:01:41

number five, what was the name of the printing company

1:01:44

where Sousan got his first job? It

1:01:46

was golden era printing. Question

1:01:50

number six, who was the first head

1:01:52

of South Africa's first multi-ethnic government? It

1:01:56

was of course, free. Mandela

1:02:02

question number seven Castry obtained a

1:02:04

GCE but what does GCE mean

1:02:07

it was a general certificate of education

1:02:11

question number eight what political group did

1:02:13

the police confuse the ANC with nice

1:02:15

and easy it was the Black Panthers

1:02:18

sorry I messed up your Black Panther party there you

1:02:22

go little little bit of Forrest Gump there

1:02:24

question number nine Southern was qualified for what

1:02:26

job he was

1:02:29

a print manager and question

1:02:31

number ten what 12-week course that he

1:02:33

just finished whoo

1:02:36

it was lino typing

1:02:38

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1:02:41

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1:02:46

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1:02:48

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1:02:50

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1:02:53

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