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Uk. Welcome.
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To Murder Model. Today
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I'm standing on Rathbone Street
1:18
in fits Rovian doubly one.
1:23
Three streets east of the deadly soap
1:25
of George Antonio. One.
1:27
Street west of the Charlotte Street Robbery. To.
1:31
Street south of the scattered body
1:33
parts by Louis Vaccine. And
1:36
a short walk from the Crying Weasel.
1:40
Going Sue The Murder Mile.
1:46
Situated on the corner of Rathbone Street
1:48
in Charlotte Place. Is the Duke
1:50
of York Pop? a
1:53
decent little boobs frequented by locals as
1:55
most of the tourists when likely to
1:57
pass it Licenced
2:01
in 1757, he was
2:04
named after the younger brother of George III. But
2:08
above the door, you
2:10
may notice a portrait which resembles
2:13
a very different Duke of York. An
2:17
alleged Randy Royal, a noble
2:19
nonce, and a tax-paying Bido,
2:22
possibly owing to his inability to
2:24
sweat, had to warm
2:26
up his torture by
2:29
bothering a young girl's futh. Which
2:35
is not to say, but just because someone
2:37
is infamous for one thing, that's
2:40
all they'll ever do. The
2:45
same could be said for the murder which occurred
2:47
here, as on
2:49
the night of Friday 12 December 1969, during
2:53
the height of apartheid and the demise of
2:55
the British Empire. A
2:58
fight occurred between two groups of black
3:00
and white males, during
3:03
which a young boy lost his life.
3:08
But why? Depending
3:13
on whose side was taken, when this particular
3:15
story was told, this
3:17
could be seen as a struggle against
3:20
oppression, racism and prejudice, or
3:23
simply an all-too-tragically familiar tale
3:25
about arrogance, a temper, a
3:28
simple spark, and a bunch
3:30
of idiots who were drunk. But
3:34
what was its origin? My
3:38
name is Michael, I am your
3:41
tour guide, and this is
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Murder Mile. Episode
3:46
243, in black and white. Sentenced
4:03
to life for murder,
4:06
19-year-old Sosarendran Moodley, who
4:08
most of his friends called Sosan, wasn't
4:11
the kind of person you'd expect to be
4:13
convicted of murdering a young man. But
4:16
he was. Born
4:21
on the 11th of June 1950, Sosan
4:24
was one of four children, Todoia
4:26
a housewife and a
4:28
ballastundrum, a schoolmaster. Raised
4:33
in the South African city of Johannesburg, during
4:36
the tender dry height of the brutal
4:38
apartheid, as
4:40
a family of African and Asian origin, they
4:43
saw the extremities of wealth and poverty,
4:45
freedom and oppression, in
4:48
a country deeply
4:50
divided between blacks
4:52
and whites. As the youngest,
4:55
Sosan always looked up to his older brother,
4:57
Castri, and
5:00
as they grew up, becoming fine young
5:02
men who were both six feet tall and
5:04
pencil thin, they
5:06
were often mistaken for one another, with
5:09
the only way to tell them apart, being
5:11
that Castri had a neat little mustache, and
5:14
Sosan didn't. Johannesburg
5:19
in the 1950s and 60s was
5:21
a difficult time to be black, let
5:24
alone an Indian immigrant. Having
5:28
left school aged fifteen, Sosan
5:30
worked as an apprentice printer at Golden
5:32
Era Printing in the city, earning
5:36
himself a decent wage, and a
5:38
set of skills which will put him in good stead
5:40
for the future. He
5:44
was good, decent, and
5:47
very little hot tempered, he
5:49
never got into any bother with the police. earlier,
6:01
the South African Native National Congress
6:04
was established as a black nationalist
6:06
organization and a political party with
6:09
a mission to maintain the
6:12
voting rights of colors, being persons
6:14
of mixed race and black
6:16
Africans in the Cape Province. Renamed
6:21
the African National Congress, the
6:25
ANC would spearhead the fight to
6:27
eradicate apartheid and South
6:30
Africa's policy of racial separation
6:32
and discrimination. Across
6:35
the next seven decades, they would
6:37
fight hard and many would die. But
6:41
with apartheid finally quashed in 1990. Four
6:45
years later, ANC President
6:47
Nelson Mandela was
6:49
elected to head South Africa's
6:51
first multi-ethnic government, changing
6:54
the nation forever. In
7:00
1963, aged
7:02
24, southern's older brother,
7:05
Castri, came to the UK to study.
7:09
Obtaining a general certificate of
7:11
education from the Elliott School
7:13
in Pudny, although he returned
7:15
home to undertake a degree at the
7:17
University of Durban. As
7:20
an anti-apartheid activist, he
7:22
quit in 1967 for what
7:25
he called political reasons. Obtaining
7:32
a visa, in 1968, he married,
7:34
he moved to Fulham and
7:37
as a translator for political
7:39
organizations like Amalgamated Protections on
7:41
Oxford Street and later
7:43
the United Association for the Protection
7:45
of Trade in Burner Street. When
7:49
charged for his only known crime, the
7:52
police report stated, he
7:54
is an active member of the African
7:56
National Congress, the
7:59
Jim Rackins. they wrote. The
8:01
Black Panthers. And
8:08
that was part of the problem. Miscommunication.
8:17
By 1969, when the murder took place,
8:21
people in South Africa knew the
8:23
difference between the African National Congress
8:26
and the Black Panthers. The
8:29
Black Nationalist Organization, headed up by
8:31
Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale
8:33
in California. But
8:36
here, most British people
8:38
didn't see the difference between them. Especially
8:42
as our government and the press were
8:45
still supporting apartheid. From
8:50
1960, with the ANC
8:53
banned by the entirely white South
8:55
African government, and
8:57
with Britain being one of South Africa's
8:59
biggest trading partners and investors, the
9:02
ANC were forced to become an
9:04
underground political movement. For
9:10
Kestri, London's West End was
9:12
key to the ANC's struggle. If
9:17
you walk down any of those streets today, you
9:20
won't see a single memorial to its past.
9:24
But across a few streets in Fitzrovia, through
9:26
the 1960s, it
9:29
was a political hotbed of the Black
9:31
Freedom Movement. A
9:35
discreet little plant above 24 Good
9:37
Street was the secret
9:39
headquarters of the South African Communist
9:41
Party in exile. 39
9:45
Good Street was where the African
9:47
Communist Quarterly was printed, miniaturized and
9:50
then smuggled overseas. The
9:53
upper two floors of 89 Charlotte
9:55
Street were the offices of the
9:57
anti-apartheid movement. before
10:00
moving to their infamous offices at nearby
10:02
28 Penton Street. Directly
10:06
opposite, the Duke of York pub was
10:09
the ANC's London headquarters at 48 Rathbone
10:11
Street. And
10:16
yet for Sozin, he
10:18
only came to London to be a printer.
10:27
Arriving on a work visa at Heathrow Airport on the 11th of August
10:30
1968, 15 months before the murder. Even
10:36
the police report describes Sozin as
10:39
a man of sober habits and a good character. And
10:43
unlike many others who were caught up in
10:45
this deadly incident, although
10:47
he is known to associate with members
10:50
of the ANC, such as
10:52
his friends and his brother, he
10:55
is not a member of the organization. Brackets.
10:59
Blood power. Getting
11:06
a place at the London College of Printing in
11:08
Borough High Street. One
11:10
year later, Sozin qualified as a
11:12
print manager. Financially
11:16
aided by his father to ensure that he
11:18
would never be broke or hungry. In
11:21
September 1969, he
11:23
attended a 12-week course in linotyping at
11:26
a college in King's Cross. He
11:30
wasn't political and he wasn't radical.
11:34
He was just a young lad in a new country,
11:36
looking for work as a printer. And
11:42
yet in a fight between a group of blacks
11:44
and whites, he
11:46
stabbed an unarmed youth to death. In
11:56
his book, London Recruits, The
11:58
Secret War Against Apartheid. Ronnie
12:02
Caswells, an ex-leader of the
12:04
ANC's military wing, described
12:06
how, after Nelson Mandela was
12:08
jailed for life in 1964, this
12:12
spelt the nadir of the liberation struggle.
12:16
So a group commander was formed to
12:18
plan daring acts of demonstration that the
12:20
ANC was not that, including
12:24
the broadcast of anti-apartheid messages, as
12:27
well as one of their most infamous tactics, bombs.
12:34
Only these were not designed to kill or
12:36
maim. ANC
12:40
recruit Eddie Adams described his training
12:43
like this. In
12:45
an empty office on Charlotte Street, Ronnie
12:48
and I crouched behind some desks while
12:50
he explained what we called leaflet
12:53
bombs. These
12:56
consisted of a plastic bucket with a platform, piled
12:59
with propaganda leaflets, over
13:01
a tube which had explosives in it. When
13:06
triggered, it would send leaflets a hundred
13:08
feet into the air, injuring
13:11
no one, causing what the British
13:13
would term as a bit of a rumpus and
13:17
educating as many onlookers as possible.
13:22
But as an illegal political organisation,
13:25
hiding in a pro-apartheid country, they
13:29
played a dangerous game with dangerous people who
13:32
wanted to keep them under surveillance or
13:34
silenced for good. As
13:38
from 1976 to 1994, 140 Gower Street, just two
13:40
streets over, was the headquarters of the
13:46
British Secret Service. And
13:49
200 Gower Street was the home of BOSS, the
13:53
South African Bureau of State Security,
13:56
the secret police. Eyes
14:01
were everywhere, ears were eavesdropping,
14:05
and they didn't know who they could trust. So
14:08
it was no surprise in 1961 that the
14:11
headquarters of the anti-apartheid movement
14:13
was bombed. Then
14:18
in 1982, 13 years
14:20
after the murder, the
14:23
South African secret police exploded a
14:25
24-pound bomb in
14:27
the new offices of the ANC on
14:29
Panton Street. Killing
14:34
no one, injuring a janitor,
14:37
and destroying a wall, it
14:40
sent an all too subtle message that they were
14:42
being watched, and
14:44
were very much under threat. So
14:53
it's no surprise that the ANC's
14:55
offices on the first floor of 48 Rathbun
14:58
Street were so discreet.
15:03
Situated opposite the Duke of York pub, beside
15:06
a hotel, and along from the eateries
15:08
on Charlotte Place, this
15:11
vague brown brick corner building had three
15:13
doors leading up to its three higher
15:16
floors. But
15:18
with no signs, no posters, and no flags,
15:21
it just looked like any other office in
15:23
this dark little corner of the city. It
15:27
could have been anything, a
15:29
store room, a help group, a
15:31
charity, or an accountant's. And
15:35
not being an ANC member, Sosnent
15:38
was not known to frequent these offices, as
15:41
the nearest he ever came to
15:43
them, was to pay a visit to the pub for a pint with
15:45
his pals, who were regulars. Also
15:52
from Johannesburg, 31-year-old
15:54
Sakheparakash Nannan was a
15:56
married man with three children in South Africa, who
16:00
He worked as a teacher at Wellston High School
16:02
and was the clerk for Abulai Fischurens. And
16:07
as a more militant member of the ANC's
16:09
London group. Although
16:11
he wasn't the biggest, the boldest, the
16:14
bravest, but was often the most vocal.
16:18
He wore the easily identifiable uniform of
16:20
the Black Panther Party, the
16:23
black leather jacket and the black beret. And
16:29
whereas Nannon was all mouth and no
16:31
trousers, Linda
16:33
Moore was too often all fists
16:36
and no brains. Born
16:41
in Queenstown, 27 year old
16:43
Linda was described as aggressive and bullish.
16:48
An aimless thug with two criminal convictions
16:50
for theft and assault, was
16:52
expelled from Blythe Woods Institution for
16:54
political reasons, struggled
16:57
to hold down jobs, illegally
16:59
arrived in the UK with no passport
17:01
in 1967 and
17:04
lived by himself in a small
17:06
poorly furnished room in Islington as
17:09
paid for by National Assistants. Just
17:15
like Susan, they had their own
17:17
reasons to be in London. At
17:20
that time when acts of rebellion,
17:22
marches and demonstrations were rife. And
17:26
yet their ANC membership didn't
17:28
automatically mean that everything they said
17:30
or did was
17:32
politically motivated. Friday
17:42
12th December, 1969 There
17:48
was a year of huge highs and low lows. As
17:52
Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, the
17:55
ANC held its first conference in exile.
17:58
The House of Lords voted for the House of Lords. to abolish
18:00
the death penalty and
18:02
Chicago police killed two members of the
18:04
Black Panther Party. But
18:08
for Sosen it marked the
18:10
end of his linotyping course. As
18:20
a six-foot South African Asian who
18:22
was pencil thin and dressed in a blue suit
18:24
with a white raking dole, Sosen
18:27
stuck out of the crowd. But
18:30
then he had no reason to hide as
18:32
he was an artist, not an agitator. Being
18:37
well-mannered, he handed his teachers
18:39
a present as a thank you. And
18:42
keen to mark the end of his education, he
18:44
bought a bottle of whiskey from the off-license, even
18:47
though he wasn't much of a drinker. Sosen
18:52
would later state, I'd
18:55
been celebrating. I had a
18:57
fair number of drinks. I
19:00
arrived at the Duke of York pub
19:02
at 7.30pm, where
19:04
we met his brother Kastry, Kastry's
19:06
wife Mel, his pal
19:08
Setia and several others. Situated
19:13
on the posing corners of Charlotte Place, the
19:17
Duke of York pub may have
19:19
been barely eight feet from the ANC
19:21
headquarters in the heart of the Black
19:23
Freedom movement. But
19:26
this area, not being known for
19:28
just one thing, was
19:31
also part of London's film district, its
19:34
second hand jewelry quarter, The
19:36
Haven for Abadashes, and
19:38
many of its pubs were infamous haunts
19:40
of radical writers. Not
19:46
being activists, Sosen
19:48
and his pals had no reason to pop
19:50
into the ANC HQ. So
19:53
as planned, they popped into
19:55
the Duke of York pub where they were regulars,
19:58
and of the 30 people who were in the pub, But in there, no
20:01
one was a total stranger. Racially,
20:09
the mood across the city was no better or
20:11
worse than usual. With
20:14
the ramifications of the 1958 Notting Hill
20:16
race ride still felt, as
20:19
well as the 1966 rides in Cleveland, and
20:22
several major rides were bubbling under
20:25
in Brixton, Toxeter, with
20:27
Broadwater Farm and Chapel Town. But
20:31
this was just a pub. The
20:44
Duke of York was a small
20:47
corner pub with doors on Charlotte Street
20:49
and Rathbone Place, barely 20 feet apart.
20:53
Dominated by a semicircular bar with bench
20:55
seats around the edge and pockmarked with
20:57
little tables and chairs. It
21:00
has a jukebox which played all the latest hits.
21:03
Like Marvin Gaye's I heard it
21:05
through the grapevine and Ziggy Stardust's
21:07
Space Oddity. With
21:10
a pinball machine on the football table out
21:12
back. As
21:17
always, being a
21:19
Friday night, which for many was payday, the
21:22
bar was busy. With
21:25
shoulders rubbing against shoulders, an
21:27
occasional bit of ajibaji, and
21:30
no spare seats for any late comers. As
21:35
a regular pub, everyone split
21:37
into groups. With
21:40
a table of white youths, a
21:42
table of black youths, a gaggle
21:44
of old geezers at the bar. No
21:47
solo groups of girls drinking Lambrini, as
21:50
unaccompanied women were banned from pubs until the
21:52
1970s. But
21:55
a mixed group of lads playing snooker, as
21:58
often sport, will bring people together. There
22:05
were many witnesses to what had happened that night,
22:09
most of whom were white. And
22:13
although the police report makes it clear
22:16
which of the South Africans were members
22:18
of the ANC or associated with members
22:20
of the ANC, no
22:24
one else's political views were investigated,
22:27
and there were several criminals. At
22:33
the bar, Peter Llewellyn Jones had
22:35
served two years for smuggling drugs in Spain,
22:39
and having fled the country, he
22:41
was wanted by the Greek police and convicted
22:43
by a court in Athens to three years
22:45
for drug smuggling. George
22:49
Haden was imprisoned for Nick and Petrel, Fred
22:52
Atabee for pilfering clothes, Melvin
22:55
Goodins had stolen a car, and
22:58
civil Boer had persistently opportune
23:01
male persons for immoral purposes.
23:06
Behind the bar, John Dellum had
23:08
been convicted of possession of an offensive
23:11
weapon, and the
23:13
assistant manager John Moore was, wait
23:16
for it, find
23:18
ten pounds for stealing a tomato
23:21
sauce dispenser. But
23:25
then again, just because
23:27
someone is infamous for something they've done,
23:31
it doesn't mean that that's all they do. At
23:39
9.15pm, a group of white
23:41
youths came in and sat at
23:43
a vacated table by the door. Two
23:48
students, Nicholas Clark and Michael Flanagan,
23:51
Roseanne Barry a typist, Pauline
23:54
Batson, a trainee dental nurse, all
23:56
of whom were aged 16 to 19. followed
24:00
by Philip Kent, a printer, and
24:03
his bespectacled brother, Robert, the
24:07
young man who would be murdered. The
24:14
atmosphere was typical for a Friday night, as
24:18
Michael told the police. Philip
24:20
and Nicholas had a game with two colored men
24:22
on the football machine, as
24:25
everyone else sat drinking and chatting. Robert
24:31
and Sulsen sat by opposite doors, and
24:34
as far as we know they hadn't met or
24:36
spoken. But
24:40
at 9.50pm, the
24:42
mood abruptly changed. Into
24:52
the pub, walked Linda in
24:54
a dark brown suit, and
24:57
Nannon in his black panther berry. As
25:01
they pushed and shoved their way in, causing
25:04
drinks to spill, voices to
25:06
raise, and almost every
25:08
witness to agree that they were determined
25:10
to cause trouble. After
25:15
Peter the drugs smuggler perched at the bar, Linda
25:18
and Nannon faced him down when he
25:21
wouldn't or couldn't budge over to
25:23
give them a little more space. But
25:26
was this a racist act, a
25:29
principle, or a matter of
25:31
logistics for Peter, Linda, or Nannon? As
25:37
Linda grabbed Peter by the lapel and shouted in
25:39
his face, although
25:41
several men of different the
25:44
age of whoever had a similar
25:46
skin tone to them. Before
25:49
it kicked off, the landlord had
25:51
split up the group, and
25:53
even though Linda had invited Peter outside
25:55
for a fight, the
25:58
incident was over. It
26:04
seemed like nothing, an
26:07
insignificant little moment, which
26:09
happens in a pub, on every week,
26:11
in every city. As
26:13
someone who's had too much to drink tries
26:15
to take on another drunk for a pointless
26:17
purpose. But
26:21
as fast as the anger had quelled, it
26:24
erupted just as quick. Sosen
26:32
stated, Linda jumped
26:34
on my table, and
26:36
launching himself from a bench, he
26:39
began to fight with the other brother, by
26:41
which he meant Philip Kent. Why?
26:47
We don't know. Because
26:49
everything went into chaos. Philip
26:53
broke a glass on Linda's head, Sosen said,
26:56
and then suddenly, everyone was
26:59
fighting. As
27:03
Robert stepped in to protect his brother, Sosen
27:06
said, I didn't pay much
27:08
attention, until the two white
27:10
brothers came over and joined in the
27:12
quarrel. I
27:14
then got up, I went over, and
27:17
I tried to stop the fight. The
27:21
brother with the glasses pinned my arms behind
27:23
me, this being Robert, as
27:26
the melee continued in the bar, with
27:29
bottles being smashed, benches being
27:32
thrown, and Michael being
27:34
hurled across the table. As
27:38
all the while, Nannon made a swift
27:40
exit, and Peter the
27:42
drug smuggler, who some said had
27:44
incited it, was ignored.
27:49
With the action reported by Rosemary and
27:52
Pauline, who had wisely sought refuge by
27:54
the ladies' toilets, the
27:57
police stated, there was little doubt that he would be able
27:59
to get out of the room. It was the Cullitz who were
28:01
the aggressors, with
28:03
the ringleader being Linda who stood
28:05
on the bar to kick Robert in the face. And
28:09
as the boy fell to the floor, Linda
28:12
repeatedly kicked him as he lay bleeding, and
28:16
seeing another victim, Linda moved
28:18
on to Michael to do the same. And
28:23
although Sudden and Robert were only
28:25
participants on the periphery, it was
28:30
the defendant, this happened, and
28:32
nobody knows why. From
28:39
his pocket, Sudden pulled a
28:41
six-inch knife. Whether
28:45
he carried it for self-defense, as
28:47
a souvenir, for a friend, or
28:50
as a tool of his trade being an artist, neither
28:54
was suggested in the police report. With
28:59
a pop in panic, only
29:01
a few saw the weapon, only
29:03
a handful heard the girl scream, He's got
29:05
a knife. And
29:07
although Robert ordered him to put the knife away,
29:11
in a single fast swipe, Sudden
29:14
confessed, I then stabbed the
29:16
white boy with the glasses. Then
29:19
he fell to the floor. And
29:23
although at their point, almost
29:25
everybody ran, even
29:28
though Robert was unconscious and bleeding
29:30
profusely, again
29:33
Linda kicked him and
29:35
then fled. The
29:50
police arrived three minutes later. But
29:54
with the landlord having cleaned up, the
29:56
pop didn't look that bad. By
29:59
the broken glass. The blood, the
30:01
screaming howl, and Robert
30:03
who lay silent. Nannon
30:08
was detained on sight. Linda
30:10
was arrested at the ANC offices, and
30:13
Sutton was apprehended just two streets away,
30:17
with a knife given to her friend quickly
30:19
found. At
30:23
the Middlesex hospital, having
30:25
suffered a single stab wound just above
30:28
his right ear, so
30:30
much force had been used that the
30:32
blade had sliced through his 7mm thick
30:34
skull and penetrated
30:36
his temporal lobe, resulting
30:39
in a massive hemorrhage. More
30:44
meat later, Robert
30:46
died of his injuries and
30:48
Sutton was charged with his murder. Tried
30:54
at the Old Bailey on the 18th of June 1970. Of
30:58
those involved in the fight, only
31:00
the black men were convicted, with
31:04
Castrian Nannon sentenced to a 6
31:06
month suspended sentence. Linda
31:09
sent down for 6 months for
31:11
assault. But
31:14
with Robert's blood on the blade, Sutton's
31:16
fingerprints on the handle, an
31:19
ID parade identifying him as the killer,
31:22
and later confessing. I
31:24
stabbed the white boy. I'm sorry I
31:26
stabbed him. 19
31:29
year old trainee printer, Sosa rendered moodily
31:31
of South Africa, was
31:34
sentenced to a knife in prison. But
31:39
with the witness statements being such a
31:41
confusing mess, the Peter
31:43
identified the killer as Sosa's
31:45
brother, Kastri. And
31:48
with the crime scene having been cleaned up, and
31:51
neither man having met before, no
31:55
one could explain the motive for the killing.
31:59
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32:02
nor Sousa himself. Was
32:06
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greenlight.com/podcast. Oh,
34:32
there we go. Oh,
34:36
oh, fuck. Oh, that's
34:39
going to be a Peter edit. And why is it
34:41
a Peter edit? Because of one bird, one
34:44
bird, one effing bird is outside the
34:46
boat and is having a good old
34:48
chirp. Even though it's wet outside, it's
34:50
like, oh yeah, chirp, chirp, chirp. Yeah,
34:53
oh, oh, listen, look at me everyone.
34:56
Look at me, chirp, chirp, chirp. A
34:58
little bastard. A little bastard. Even the
35:00
coot at the decency to not
35:02
be massively annoying. I
35:04
mean, he was annoying, but you know, not
35:07
as normal as he usually is. Oh,
35:10
dear. So there we go. What time
35:12
is it? Quarter to two.
35:14
Right, good. Welcome to Extra Mile
35:16
everyone. The unscripted, unedited bit.
35:20
We will do some quiz questions. I
35:22
don't really need to make a cup of tea. I've already
35:24
kind of got half of a coffee going. I'm going to
35:26
go to the coffee shop in a bit anyway. I've
35:29
got two coffee shops. Two are the same
35:31
coffee shops right next to me now. I'm
35:33
literally, one is a three,
35:37
four minute walk away and the other one is a four
35:39
to five minute walk away. Now, I've never understand why they
35:41
do that. Really doesn't make any sense.
35:44
So yeah, unscripted bit and then we'll do some quiz
35:46
questions and now I'm going to dive into some extra
35:48
stuff because with this episode, I
35:51
pieced it all together and I was going to dive
35:53
into all the stuff after they were arrested. But
35:56
then I realised that the focus on the story should
35:58
really have just been the reason, the most. for
36:00
the murder itself so that's what we focus on so
36:02
we're gonna do that so uh it's
36:05
all go isn't it it's all go
36:07
it's pissing down outside lovely luckily i've
36:10
got enough coal uh i'm
36:12
gonna have the fire on later on which
36:14
is all very nice all geared up for
36:17
tomorrow tomorrow as of time of recording is
36:19
valentine's day so obviously lots of
36:21
gifts for Eva lots of gifts i bought
36:23
her a distillery uh so she can just
36:26
put a straw in through the window and
36:28
just do what she needs to do uh
36:31
i'm gonna be her loyal slave for the day
36:33
i am for every day but you know she
36:35
likes to know that i'm her loyal slave so i
36:38
so every day i send her a
36:40
note saying i'm your loyal slave do with me what
36:42
you will and she does she does uh
36:45
so that's all good oh um
36:48
we're doing this a regular thing so myself
36:50
Adam from UK true crime and Paul from
36:52
true crime enthusiasts we do a round table
36:54
discussion every sunday it's live it goes out
36:57
on on youtube so you can check it
36:59
on that there's a link on my social
37:01
media you could do that it's free it's
37:03
an hour it's a chat uh there's a
37:05
little chat box in there so you can
37:07
send messages to us and questions which is
37:09
good people like to interact that's good uh
37:12
we we get some nice guests in so
37:14
yeah if you fancy doing that please do
37:16
i think i think we also upload it
37:19
to to the social media as well so you
37:21
can enjoy that as well if you like uh
37:24
what else has happened not much is going on
37:26
in my life except i i was boxing up
37:28
some mugs the other day because i'd had a
37:30
nice meeting in town with some people and i
37:32
wanted to send them a murder mile mug of
37:34
goodies and what i always do is
37:36
open up the box which had been there for about a year
37:39
and i opened it up just to
37:41
check that the mug's okay and it's the right
37:43
mug on the inside and when i opened up
37:45
there was a little spider having having his winter
37:47
holiday he was in there he'd
37:49
made a little nest uh he got
37:51
uh his food was there so the the uh
37:54
a fly that he was eating and i was
37:56
like i'm glad i checked this before i sent
37:58
it off so there we go so
38:00
Someone has today will have received a nice
38:02
mug only without a spider in it.
38:04
So there we go. Always good. Wow Michael
38:06
your life is so exciting isn't it? Yes
38:09
it is. Whoa I wonder
38:11
what excitement will happen next week. Probably
38:14
nothing. Let's do some
38:16
quiz questions and then we'll dive into some extra
38:19
stuff. So get ready. Don't forget I'll do the
38:21
answers at the very end and I haven't edited
38:23
the first part of the episode yet. So I
38:25
may take things out of the episode which means
38:27
you can't answer the question or I might just
38:29
balls them up by mistake but this is on
38:32
it. Thank God. So there we
38:34
go. Question number one. In
38:36
which part of west London is Rathbone
38:39
Street in? I.e.
38:41
Wardle Street is in Soho so which
38:43
part part of west London is Rathbone
38:45
Street in? There you go. Oh
38:48
really burpy today. Question
38:53
number two. The Duke of York pub
38:55
is named after the brother of which
38:59
English king? There
39:02
we go. Question number three. Whose face
39:05
is on the sign outside of the pub? Question
39:10
number four. What job did Sosen's
39:12
father do? Question
39:16
number five. What was the name of the printing company
39:18
where Sosen got his first job? Question
39:24
number six. Who was the first head of
39:26
South Africa's first multi-ethnic
39:29
government? That's
39:32
an easy question. Question number
39:35
seven. Kastry obtained a GCE but what
39:37
does GCE mean? Question
39:42
number
39:45
eight. What political group did the
39:47
police confuse the ANC with? I've
39:50
mentioned that about 50 times in this episode. You've got to
39:52
get that one right. Question number
39:55
nine. Sosen was qualified for what job? number
40:00
10 what 12-week course and he
40:02
just finished. So
40:06
let's dive into some of the extra stuff that's in there.
40:08
As mentioned in the start, Sultan and Kastri
40:11
are very similar to each other.
40:13
They're brothers, what do you expect? They've
40:15
got the same mother and father so they're likely
40:17
to be very similar. Which
40:20
is why at the start I kind of mentioned about the
40:22
father. Originally I was going to add this into the story
40:24
but I thought it just confused
40:26
it so I put it right at the end. But they're
40:29
very similar. They're six
40:31
foot tall, pencil thin. The only
40:34
difference is that Kastri has a
40:36
little mustache and Sultan
40:38
doesn't. So
40:40
with the... it
40:43
was actually... it was interesting. It was that
40:45
Philip dude. Have I got this here? I
40:48
thought this was it. I thought I had the
40:50
statement here. So Philip who was a drug smuggler,
40:52
who was at the bar, who's the one... it's
40:54
weird it's kind of with the story. It's kind
40:56
of him that this is where
40:58
the argy-bargy happens. That Linda and Nanan come in
41:00
and Philip's at the bar and Philip won't move over
41:03
because he's sitting on his stool and he's having a
41:05
pint. He's one of these guys who sits at the
41:07
bar and he's like, oh it's my pub. I've
41:09
bought a pint. I'm gonna nurse a shit
41:11
pint of Fosters for about four hours having
41:13
spent two quid and therefore this is my
41:15
pub because I annoy the bar staff all
41:17
the time. He seems like he's
41:19
that kind of prick. But
41:24
he actually said that he
41:26
was certain that... so he gave three statements
41:28
and on the first one he said no
41:30
no it was definitely Sultan and he knew
41:32
them. He'd... they
41:34
were both wearing entirely different clothes. Obviously
41:36
as mentioned in the episode he got
41:38
Sultan wearing a white Macintosh and a
41:40
blue suit and then he got Kastri
41:42
who was all in dark clothes. They're
41:45
both similar but one is a mustache and one doesn't
41:47
and he'd known them both for at least the last
41:49
two and a half months and he admitted that and
41:52
yet he got them wrong. Didn't
41:54
put this in the story as well but also Sultan
41:58
had some cuts on his face. We're
42:01
not too sure how he got them, it's not mentioned
42:03
in any of the police
42:05
reports or anything. But he'd, whether
42:07
it was a fight or whether he fell
42:09
or something, he got cuts on his right
42:11
cheek. So that made him even more identifiable.
42:13
But still, you had people like
42:15
Philip going, oh no, it was definitely him,
42:17
definitely him. Look,
42:21
as you can see, it was, you know, this
42:23
was the hardest thing about the episode, the pieces
42:25
together. I've made it as simple for you as
42:27
possible. But going through the police files
42:30
was an absolute nightmare, because you've got people saying,
42:33
there was a black youth did this, there was a white
42:35
guy did that. And it's like, okay,
42:37
thank you for that, that's very useful, okay. You've
42:40
got 30 people in a room, some are black,
42:42
some are white, who's who? And it's a real
42:44
nightmare, like trying to pin it down, like someone
42:46
going, yeah, there was a guy in a blue
42:48
top. Yeah, great, thank you for
42:50
that, sicko. So it's really difficult to try and pin
42:53
down who was who. So hopefully
42:55
I've got that across. But then again,
42:57
it's witness statements, isn't it? It's always
42:59
confusing, it's never accurate. People's
43:02
tempers are kind of frayed and their emotions
43:04
are high, and therefore they get things wrong.
43:06
And witness statements are only over 30% right
43:08
at best. So
43:12
luckily we had Barstaff were there, luckily some
43:14
of the girls were out back, so they were able to watch it.
43:18
One of their friends was there as well, I can't
43:20
remember who it was. But yeah, there was a real
43:22
melee going on, like people being thrown over chairs, someone
43:25
throwing, throwing
43:28
someone over tables, there was chairs being thrown at
43:30
people. But when you look at the crime scene photos,
43:32
I looked at the crime scene photos, and I
43:34
thought, I know the pub really well, because I've
43:36
drank there quite a few times. But I looked
43:39
at the crime scene photos, I thought, they
43:41
must have taken it like a couple of weeks later, because it
43:43
looks clean. But then you look
43:45
in the corner and you can see a dustpan and
43:47
brush. And the barman and the staff
43:49
had literally cleared everyone out except the guy who
43:52
was dying. And
43:54
then they sweeped up everything,
43:56
so it looks really nice and clean, so they really,
43:58
really cocked up the crime scene. crime scene
44:00
doesn't look like anything.
44:03
As mentioned, Nannon
44:05
was detained on site and
44:08
the landlord's wife, she was working that night
44:10
and she pointed to him and said he
44:12
was one of the ringleaders. As
44:15
did the, John, he was on the
44:17
bar and said he started it all, he started
44:20
punching him, I think he
44:22
was making reference to Peter there. Nannon
44:24
replied, I don't know anything about it man,
44:27
because as you know, you have to end
44:29
every sentence with man. I always hate
44:31
people who end sentence with mate. I
44:34
got a nasty email off someone ages ago and
44:36
they ended every sentence with mate and I was
44:38
like, if you don't
44:40
like me, don't call me mate, we're not mates.
44:42
It's like, I don't think fuckers
44:44
who do that anyway. What
44:47
else we got? What else we got? Fleeing from the
44:49
scene, so this is what happened. So everyone started fleeing
44:51
from the scene. Some people were arrested on site, some
44:54
people fled from the scene. So Sosen
44:57
had purchased himself a bottle of Teacher's
44:59
Highland Cream, sophisticated.
45:01
And then most
45:04
of the group actually met up in the
45:06
Cambridge and the Cambridge is a pub on
45:08
the corner of Charlotte Street in Rathbone Place.
45:10
So literally a 30 second walk away, they
45:12
congregated in there. Satya,
45:16
who was a friend of Sosen and
45:18
his brother, was
45:21
a student as well.
45:23
And where is he
45:25
said? Here we are.
45:28
I suddenly believe that Sosen may have been the person
45:30
who did the stabbing. I went to the toilet to
45:32
speak to him. In the toilet I asked him if
45:34
he had a knife. I asked him if he had
45:36
used the knife in the pub, meaning the stabbing and
45:39
he replied he had. I then asked
45:41
him to give me the knife because I didn't want
45:43
him to do anything
45:45
as into to hurt anyone else
45:47
or himself. I
45:50
felt he wasn't in his sober senses, don't
45:52
forget he doesn't normally drink. And
45:54
then he handed me the clothes knife which I put in
45:56
my pocket and went home. So Sosen
45:58
was walking around the corner of the room. on the street drinking
46:03
detective constable fenan
46:05
and temporary detective constable jones went
46:07
past john moor
46:09
who was one of the barman was in the car
46:11
with him and said that's him right there don't forget
46:13
he's here to spot his wink a
46:16
blue suit with a big collar and he's wearing
46:18
a white macintosh so he's really he's defined uh
46:21
uh robert
46:24
who was the the boy who was stabbed we
46:26
don't really know much about him i would have
46:28
done a backstory on him but there was nothing
46:30
in there nothing at all taken to
46:32
middle sex hospital which is in this same area
46:35
it's literally a street
46:37
ape it's like you could walk to
46:39
it in a minute so yeah that's
46:41
right rushed into there straight into theater
46:44
from casualty senior neurosurgeon uh
46:46
operated on him straight away he
46:48
was unconscious and breathe had to
46:51
be had to be mechanically
46:53
aided so he could breathe he'd
46:55
been stabbed in the head on the right
46:57
inside just an inch above his right ear
46:59
with a one inch wound where the knife
47:01
had gone in and it had been retracted
47:03
and you need to use a lot of force on
47:05
here because it's quite a heavy bone there and
47:08
it's roughly around seven
47:11
centimeters thick so
47:14
normally the skull protects the brain
47:16
from damage through high resistance to
47:19
deformation and it says here
47:21
that you need a force of about
47:23
one ton to reduce the diameter of
47:25
the skull by a centimeter uh
47:27
so actually it's quite a lot of force he
47:30
it's weird with um sodds and apparently
47:32
everyone said some people said they saw
47:34
him with the knife underneath his uh
47:37
his macintosh which was over his arm and
47:39
then they said it was waist height but
47:42
he stabbed him sideways into the side
47:44
of the head so um it's not
47:46
like it was an accidental stabbing
47:50
it's like this is you can't accidentally
47:52
stab someone in the head and stab
47:54
through the skull into the brain this
47:56
is a very deliberate act but if
47:59
you think about it look like this Like if he was defending himself, wouldn't
48:01
he stab him in the stomach or in
48:03
the hands or something? There was no defensive wounds at
48:06
all. But
48:08
this was a very deliberate act. This
48:10
is something that involves anger and passion.
48:12
It makes you wonder why
48:14
was it there? Why was it in the side of the head?
48:16
Not elsewhere? Not in the thigh? Not in the
48:18
groin as you'd probably expect. So
48:21
yet he was stabbed in the temporal lobe which
48:23
is the part of the brain that controls memory,
48:25
speech and comprehension but he never
48:27
regained... He remained in critical condition. He
48:29
was in the Cavendish Benting Ward for a week
48:32
and then he died of his injuries. Police
48:38
scooped everyone up and took them into
48:40
Marleybone Police Station which is over on
48:42
Seymour Street. And
48:44
basically all the witnesses were there
48:46
and it's kind of
48:49
an interesting one because you've got... As
48:51
mentioned, this is very much a story about people in
48:53
their little groups. Groups of
48:56
blacks and groups of whites and you get a few who
48:58
are kind of mixed but not really that much as kind
49:00
of everyone keeps to themselves. So the police
49:02
said that everyone in the charge room and they
49:04
were kind of process all of these witnesses. They
49:07
even said that the room wasn't
49:09
big enough to have all of the witnesses in there
49:11
so they were really struggling with that. But
49:16
yeah... Where
49:18
was it? You
49:24
have to kind of take a lot of this from the perspective
49:28
of people in that era. It
49:31
makes it hard to know exactly what the
49:33
real truth is here. Even in some of
49:35
the statements as well, with all the black
49:37
people it's kind of like they are just
49:39
known by their names and whether they're associated
49:41
with the ANC or whether they're members of
49:43
the ANC or whether they associate with members
49:45
of the ANC, that's always in there. But
49:48
no political beliefs for anyone who's white. With
49:50
all the black people it's about if
49:52
they're unemployed that's listed. But
49:56
with the white people they're always given Mr.
49:58
like Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.
50:00
Melvin Graham and Mrs. Esther Gooding. They always
50:02
get their titles and their job status. But
50:07
never anyone else. It doesn't
50:11
come off well for them because obviously everyone's
50:13
been drinking but let's read
50:15
this. This is from the police report.
50:17
It said, it should be mentioned that
50:20
whereas the white people were willing to
50:22
assist in any way they could, the
50:24
colored men refused to cooperate. Don't
50:27
forget, this also could be
50:29
part of it because they've come from
50:31
South Africa and their kind of police
50:33
force is quite brutal and impressive. Therefore,
50:36
there's been bombings by the secret police
50:38
over here, by South African groups who
50:40
were kind of here. So, do you know, they have a
50:42
reason to kind of for hatred of the police. And given
50:45
the fact that in this era, Britain
50:47
is which our police
50:49
force is funded by the taxpayers and Joe's
50:53
government controlled. Therefore, they have every right to
50:55
kind of not trust the police. So, you
50:57
can kind of understand it from that perspective there.
51:00
It says, they treated the whole
51:02
matter in a totally irresponsible manner,
51:04
shouting, singing and swearing. Sometimes in
51:06
Afrikaans, sometimes in English,
51:08
the situation deteriorated and became
51:11
intolerable. In
51:13
custody, colored men were heard to chant slogans
51:16
and on mention of
51:18
Robert's name, don't forget by
51:20
that point, he's not dead. He's critical. They
51:23
laughed uproariously and shouted, who cares
51:25
and white trash could
51:27
have happened, could not have happened. It could have been one of
51:29
them. It could have been a few of them. But don't forget,
51:31
everyone's being lumped together. So, yeah, in
51:33
these reports, it's always the colors did
51:35
this, but it could be
51:38
one. It could be a few. We just
51:40
don't know. So, it's really hard to get this. Right.
51:44
Bear in mind that a number of white
51:46
witnesses were acquainted with the colored men and
51:48
in some cases, knew them
51:50
by their name or nickname and it
51:52
could not be obviated that the both
51:54
sides may have met on their arrival
51:56
at the police station. D.I.
51:59
Parker, decided that a form
52:01
of confrontation should take place.
52:04
Each side was then individually given the
52:06
opportunity to view the other and make
52:09
comments that they felt was
52:11
relevant. That's something
52:13
that we don't do anymore, but back then you could
52:15
get a group of people in a big room and
52:17
just say, write, argue it out and
52:19
we're going to take down the notes. Obviously,
52:23
that's the way they did
52:25
it. What else have we got?
52:28
One statement, his first statement. I'm not
52:30
going to read all of his statements,
52:34
but if you're a Patreon subscriber, this
52:36
is what I do on the... I
52:39
do a thing called Bad Nanometers. If
52:41
you enjoy extra mile of me reading
52:43
all the stuff that you won't get
52:45
anywhere else, I save all the really,
52:47
really exciting stuff, like the pieces that
52:49
you can't get anywhere else for Bad
52:51
Nanometers. It's available to everyone on Bad
52:53
Nanometers. Even if you pay like $3
52:55
a month, you get this as a
52:58
freebie on every Thursday night. You get
53:00
these. I haven't decided what I'll do
53:02
for this, but first
53:04
statement of Saws and Woz,
53:06
and this is in its entirety and it's
53:08
short. He said, I went to the Duke
53:10
of York pub around half a state. I
53:12
saw some friends. I don't know their
53:14
names. I saw a fight between friends
53:16
of mine and a couple of guys from the pub.
53:19
They were white guys and they were fighting with my
53:21
friends. I don't know how the
53:23
fight started. I left as soon
53:25
as the fight started. My brother was
53:27
there. I left by myself. That's the
53:29
end of it as far as I'm
53:31
concerned. And that
53:33
was his statement. As
53:36
we know, it was all a
53:38
lie. But people
53:40
do that, don't they? When they're confronted, they panic
53:42
and they go, oh, nothing to do with me.
53:45
All they do that thing is to do on all the
53:49
24 hours in police custody.
53:51
No comment. No comment. No
53:53
comment. Stare at the ground. No comment.
53:56
No comment. No comment.
54:00
Oh, you just want to slap them, don't you? You just want
54:02
to slap them. Why not just say,
54:04
instead of saying no comment, why not just
54:06
say, I am guilty? Just have
54:08
done with it. That
54:11
day, so Sosam
54:14
was charged on the 12th of December in 1969
54:16
for was
54:18
actually on the 13th for making an
54:20
affray and the GBH of Robert Kent
54:22
against the peace, because Robert's still alive
54:24
by that point, Kastry
54:26
was charged again with
54:29
making an affray. In
54:31
the company of everyone who was
54:33
mentioned there, Nannon was
54:36
also charged with making an affray, which
54:38
is basically fighting. Oh,
54:40
I've got hiccups, as was Linda.
54:42
It's interesting with this that as even though people
54:44
say that Linda and Nannon were the kind of
54:46
the ringleaders and the agitators of this. And if
54:49
you think about it, if
54:51
they hadn't come in acting like they're all Billy
54:53
Big bollocks and getting all shouty and mouthy, none
54:56
of this would have happened. Kind of if this
54:58
is the way it happened with Peter, the drugs,
55:01
drug smuggler, if he would have made a little bit
55:03
of space for them. Maybe
55:06
they could have had a pint and sat down and shut up
55:08
and not been all mouthy, but we
55:10
just don't know what this is. The thing is, it's
55:12
hard to pin down who who does
55:14
what. And and as mentioned with
55:16
the the witnesses, with
55:19
with the fact that we don't know the political.
55:23
We know the political motivations of those who
55:25
associate with the ANC because the police deliberately
55:28
made an effort to kind of go, well,
55:30
these ANC members and these are people are
55:32
so, you know, even if you're not, they
55:35
don't know your political affiliations. Then they
55:37
go, well, you associated with someone to
55:40
do with the ANC. It's like, well, you know,
55:43
like I unwittingly, I could probably
55:45
say I'm I'm associated with communists
55:47
and Nazis. You know, some people
55:50
who I've probably met in my life are probably
55:52
secret Nazis or communists. But, you know, it doesn't
55:54
mean I'm and it makes it sound bad. Doesn't
55:57
it? When you say always an associate with a
55:59
communist or an. You could be,
56:01
you just might not know it, or you might
56:03
not give a fuck. Like, some
56:05
people's political beliefs, who
56:08
cares? Who really cares? The
56:11
knife, the
56:13
knife itself was found the next day,
56:16
that evening. They went to Satya's home over in
56:18
Moreland Road, over in Kenton. And
56:21
he was honest about it. He said, got
56:25
the knife, I took it
56:27
off him. Satya said, the following afternoon I opened
56:29
the knife and saw blood on the top of
56:31
the blade. The tip, I wiped
56:33
it clean with a towel. Well done there. I
56:36
found I couldn't close it again, so I put it in
56:38
the drawer. Police arrived.
56:42
They, by this point, saw something in the
56:44
door. They said to them, I did this,
56:46
I did the stabbing and I gave the
56:48
knife to my friend. Satya
56:51
said, I would like to say that I never intended to hide
56:53
the knife, only to keep it for
56:56
him until I could see him again. But obviously by
56:58
that point he didn't know that he'd been arrested. Yep,
57:04
Robert died 19th December 1969, at 8.45pm on the Cavendish Benting
57:06
Ward. Professor
57:15
Keith Simpson at Guy's Hospital did the autopsy.
57:18
Nice and simple, a simple stab wound to
57:20
the side of the head. No defensive wounds
57:22
to the hands, the wrists or the arms.
57:25
Cause of death was brain injury. Blood
57:29
found matching Roberts was
57:31
found on Sousan's jacket on the raincoat of
57:33
one of the other guys, a guy called
57:35
Littleton Bean. I've kind of erased him
57:37
from this. None
57:40
of Robert's blood was found on any of
57:42
Linda's clothes, therefore they couldn't really link him
57:44
to it either. But don't forget he didn't,
57:47
even though he was the main prick who was standing
57:49
on chairs and tables and trying to kick people in
57:51
the head and kicking people while they were down, he
57:55
wasn't the one who stabbed Robert
57:58
therefore. He
58:00
kind of gets away with this really, doesn't he?
58:03
Even though I would say that he's, even
58:05
though he ended up serving six months in prison for
58:07
GBH, I personally would have
58:09
put him away for a long time just for
58:11
being one of those pricks who turns up a
58:14
pub and decides to start a fight, if indeed
58:16
that's what happened. An
58:18
ID parade happened on the 25th of
58:21
March 1970 at 3.30pm Marleybone Police Station.
58:26
This was for Sosn, they placed
58:28
12 men of similar height, age,
58:30
general appearance and inverted commas,
58:33
class of life, whatever that means.
58:36
Sosn made the decision to stand 7th from
58:38
the left, so that's kind of more central.
58:42
And in that era, today
58:44
we do it nicely where it's kind of done
58:47
by video parade and therefore the victim doesn't have
58:49
to be traumatised by looking at someone. So back
58:53
in this era, they do it in a
58:55
parade ground or outback or something like that
58:57
and the suspect has to come along and
58:59
touch the suspect on the right shoulder and
59:02
say, this is the one, which must be
59:04
absolutely fucking terrifying. I can't believe it took
59:06
so long for the police to work out,
59:08
that that's not a good way to do
59:11
it. He
59:13
was picked out by quite a few of
59:15
the witnesses but interestingly, George Hayden
59:17
who was a witness said, I'm not too sure, as
59:20
well as Peter Llewellyn Jones who started the
59:22
whole fucking thing and knew them both for years,
59:24
who thought it was Castri,
59:27
his brother. Absolute
59:29
tit. What
59:31
else we got? The trial happened, started on the 18th of June
59:33
1970 and concluded on the 7th of July 1970,
59:39
that's when the sentences was
59:42
read. Sosn
59:46
was sentenced to life
59:48
in prison plus three years to serve
59:51
consecutively, that was because he was carrying a
59:53
blade and that was for causing an affray
59:55
and murder and part of it was served
59:57
at Wellmans Grop's prison. Casterie,
1:00:00
his brother was sentenced to six months in prison
1:00:03
but suspended for two years, i.e. meaning if he
1:00:05
didn't commit any acts over the next two years,
1:00:07
which were criminal, he wouldn't have to go to
1:00:09
prison and to pay £70 worth of costs. Nannon,
1:00:14
same, even though he was one of the agitators,
1:00:16
he got six months in prison but suspended for
1:00:19
two years, so he didn't go
1:00:21
to prison, maybe, we don't know. Mindom
1:00:25
was sentenced to six months in prison and
1:00:28
many of them were considered for deportation
1:00:30
but we don't know whether they were
1:00:32
deported. So, deported, not deported,
1:00:35
so therefore we don't know much more
1:00:37
about that. Robert was
1:00:39
cremated at Golders Green Cemetery on the 2nd
1:00:41
January 1970. Think
1:00:45
that's it, I think that is it folks, I
1:00:47
think that is a yes that's it, I've been
1:00:49
waffled for too long. So let's answer
1:00:52
the quiz questions and then I can
1:00:54
go off to the coffee shop. I've got loads
1:00:56
to do, busy busy busy busy and then I've
1:00:58
got to unblock my sink. Oh Michael, your life
1:01:00
is so exciting. Unblocking
1:01:03
your sink, fwah. So let's
1:01:05
do the quiz questions. What
1:01:07
part of West London is Rathbone Street in?
1:01:11
Fitzrovia, I probably gave that away in
1:01:13
one of the quiz questions but there we go. Question
1:01:16
number two, the Duke of York pub is named
1:01:18
after the brother of which English king?
1:01:22
George the third. Question
1:01:25
number three, whose face is on the outside of the
1:01:27
pub? It's Prince
1:01:30
Andrew, oh lovely. Makes
1:01:33
you want to have a pint there doesn't it? Question
1:01:35
number four, what job did Sousan's father
1:01:37
do? He
1:01:39
was a school master. Question
1:01:41
number five, what was the name of the printing company
1:01:44
where Sousan got his first job? It
1:01:46
was golden era printing. Question
1:01:50
number six, who was the first head
1:01:52
of South Africa's first multi-ethnic government? It
1:01:56
was of course, free. Mandela
1:02:02
question number seven Castry obtained a
1:02:04
GCE but what does GCE mean
1:02:07
it was a general certificate of education
1:02:11
question number eight what political group did
1:02:13
the police confuse the ANC with nice
1:02:15
and easy it was the Black Panthers
1:02:18
sorry I messed up your Black Panther party there you
1:02:22
go little little bit of Forrest Gump there
1:02:24
question number nine Southern was qualified for what
1:02:26
job he was
1:02:29
a print manager and question
1:02:31
number ten what 12-week course that he
1:02:33
just finished whoo
1:02:36
it was lino typing
1:02:38
so there we go hope you enjoyed that that's
1:02:41
it folks hope you enjoyed that episode interesting
1:02:44
one weird one strange one one for you
1:02:46
to mull over and to see what what
1:02:48
you decide who
1:02:50
killed who for why um next week I
1:02:53
think it's another one part it probably is
1:02:55
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